The DOJ and FBI Worked With Fusion GPS on “Operation Trump”….

Following the released transcript of Fusion-GPS Co-Founder Glenn Simpson’s testimony to the Senate Judiciary Committee by Senator Dianne Feinstein, several media outlets have begun questioning the relationship between the FBI investigators, Glenn Simpson and dossier author Christopher Steele.

What we have discovered highlights the answer to those relationship questions; and also answers a host of other questions, including: Did the FBI pay Christopher Steele?  Yes, but now how media has stated.  Was the FBI connected to the creation of the Steele Dossier? Yes, but again, not the way the media is currently outlining.

The motive within the FBI/DOJ surveillance of the 2016 campaign of Donald Trump is simple. However, to understand how they did it – the story becomes more complex.  Some key background understanding is necessary.

♦First, to understand what took place in 2016 we must travel back to 2015 when Office of Inspector General (OIG) Michael Horowitz asked for approval to conduct oversight over the National Security Division of the Department of Justice; the DOJ-NSD.

In 2015 Inspector General Michael Horowitz was blocked by the Department of Justice from having oversight over the DOJ-NSD. In a lengthy response to the IG’s office [Full 58 page pdf HERE] Sally Yates essentially said ‘all DOJ is subject to oversight, except the National Security Division’.

♦Second, to understand how FISA is used within the intelligence community it is CRITICAL to understand that IC departments centered around National Security, such as the DOJ National Security Division, or the FBI Counterintelligence Division, may use the NSA database -and FISA enabled inquires- with considerably more leeway, and less restrictions on access and use.  In short, FISA “queries” from any national security department within government are allowed without seeking court approval.

During a recent hearing discussion between current FBI Director Christopher Wray and House Judiciary Chairman, Bob Goodlatte, the context is outlined.  WATCH:


The scale and scope of what took place in 2016 is also contingent upon understanding how the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) was being used.  Specifically how *critical* exceptions for FISA-702 “search queries”, without judicial warrants or FISA court approvals, were permitted.

In 2016 FISA-702(17) “About Queries” from legislatively authorized national security entities within the DOJ and FBI did NOT require FISA court approvals.

Remember this important fact as you continue reading.

WE BEGIN:  The recent stories about the 2016 DOJ and FBI counterintelligence investigation of the Trump campaign center around how the Christopher Steele ‘Russian Dossier’ was used by the DOJ/FBI in obtaining FISA approvals for surveillance of Trump campaign officials.

Within the “Russian Dossier” back-story everyone is familiar with the relationship between Fusion-GPS, the founder of the company, Glenn Simpson, and the author of the dossier, Christopher Steele. Additionally, the relationship between the Clinton campaign and Fusion GPS is now well known.

In/around April of 2016 the Clinton campaign hired and paid Fusion-GPS.  Team Clinton paid Fusion-GPS for information on candidate Donald Trump.  That agreement led to Fusion-GPS hiring sub-contractor Christopher Steele, which eventually led to the creation of the ‘Steele Dossier’.

Yesterday, it was reported the ‘Steele Dossier’ was used as the underlying foundation for the DOJ and FBI to seek FISA Court Approvals to monitor the communications of the Trump campaign.

In essence, as of yesterday, the FBI used Clinton opposition research -via Fusion GPS- on candidate Donald Trump, to generate surveillance authority over her political opponent.

That sounds bad; however, what we have discovered is worse.

Dates are critical because they build the circumstantial case within a story clouded by obfuscation and convenient FISA secrecy.

We know NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers became aware of an issue with unauthorized FISA-702(17) “About Queries” early in 2016.   As a result of a FISA court ruling declassified in May of 2017 we were able to piece a specific timeline together.

After Rogers discovered the FISA-702(17) “About Query” issues, the NSA Director initiated a full FISA-702 compliance review. [Full Backstory]

Watch this hearing testimony to hear Admiral Rogers explain the timeline:


At the same time Christopher Steele was assembling his dossier information (May-October 2016), the NSA compliance officer was conducting an internal FISA-702 review as initiated by NSA Director Mike Rogers.

The NSA compliance officer briefed Admiral Mike Rogers on October 20th 2016.

On October 26th 2016, Admiral Rogers informed the FISA Court of numerous unauthorized FISA-702(17) “About Query” violations.

Subsequent to that FISC notification Mike Rogers stopped all FISA-702(17) “About Queries” permanently. They are no longer permitted.

The full FISA Court Ruling on the notifications from the NSA is below. And to continue the story we are pulling out a specific section [page 83, pdfCRITICAL to understanding what was going on:

Pg 83. “FBI gave raw Section 702–acquired information to a private entity that was not a federal agency and whose personnel were not sufficiently supervised by a federal agency for compliance minimization procedures.”


Please pay close attention to this section, pg 84, [Note the date April 18th]:

Notice how it was FBI “private contractors” that were conducting the unauthorized FISA-702 Queries via access to information on FBI storage systems.

We have been tipped off that one of the FBI contractors in question was, unbelievably, Fusion-GPS.

It is almost certain this early 2016 series of FISA-702 compliance violations was the origin of NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers concern.

Mike Rogers discovery becomes the impetus for him to request the 2016 full NSA compliance audit of FISA-702 use.  It appears Fusion-GPS was the FBI contracted user identified in the final FISA court opinion/ruling on page 83.

Note the dates from the FISC opinion (above) – As soon as the FBI discovered Mike Rogers was looking at the searches, the FBI discontinued allowing their sub-contractor  access to the raw FISA information. Effective April 18th, 2016.

On April 19th, 2016, the day after the FBI stopped allowing access to the FISA database, the wife of Fusion-GPS founder Glenn Simpson, Mary B Jacoby, went to the White House.

(Link to White House Logs)

After months of prior opposition research, including what appears to be their access to FISA-702(17) “Search Queries“as a sub-contractor for the FBI, the wife of Glenn Simpson (Fusion GPS), Mary B. Jacoby, with years of Russia-angled reporting –including Donald Trump– visits the White House.

This is April 19th 2016, the day after the FBI, stopped allowing Fusion-GPS access the NSA FISA-702 database.  Immediately following this White House visit the Clinton campaign hire Fusion GPS to conduct opposition research on Donald Trump, surrounding Russia?

[The Tablet] … Simpson and Jacoby had ID’d Manafort as a world-class sleazeball and they were right. A slick Georgetown Law grad running in GOP circles since the Reagan campaign, Manafort used his talents and connections to get paid by some very bad people. I would only add here that, in my personal experience, journalists are not in the habit of forgetting major stories they’ve written, especially stories with a character like Manafort at the center.

So when the Trump campaign named Paul Manafort as its campaign convention manager on March 28, 2016, you can bet that Simpson and Jacoby’s eyes lit up. And as it happened, at the exact same time that Trump hired Manafort, Fusion GPS was in negotiations with Perkins Coie, the law firm representing the Clinton campaign and the DNC, to see if there was interest in the firm continuing the opposition research on the Trump campaign they had started for the Washington Free Beacon. (more)

This timeline is entirely too obvious.

What plan came from that April 19th,2016 White House meeting?  What plan did Mary Jacoby and Glenn Simpson present to use the information they had assembled?  How and who would they feed their information to; and how do they best use that ‘valuable’ information?

This appears to be where Fusion-GPS contracting with Christopher Steele comes in.

What happens next?

Glenn Simpson and Mary Jacoby (Fusion-GPS)  hires Nellie Ohr:

Contacted by Fox News, investigators for the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI) confirmed that Nellie H. Ohr, wife of the demoted official, Bruce G. Ohr, worked for the opposition research firm last year.

The precise nature of Mrs. Ohr’s duties – including whether she worked on the dossier – remains unclear but a review of her published works available online reveals Mrs. Ohr has written extensively on Russia-related subjects. HPSCI staff confirmed to Fox News that she was paid by Fusion GPS through the summer and fall of 2016. (link)

DOJ Deputy Bruce Ohr and his wife Nellie Ohr had a prior working relationship with Fusion-GPS founder Glenn Simpson.  Together they worked on a collaborative CIA Open Source group project surrounding International Organized Crime. (pdf here) Page #30 Screen Shot Below.

Keep in mind, AFTER April 18th, 2016, Fusion-GPS knows the NSA compliance division is reviewing all of their FISA-702(17) search “query” activity conducted while contracted by the FBI.

The Clinton campaign hired Fusion GPS (April 2016).  Fusion sub-contracted retired British MI6 agent Christopher Steele to write the opposition research report “The Trump Russia Dossier”; and they hire a former intelligence community colleague, Nellie Ohr.

Nellie Ohr is a subject matter expert on Russia, speaks Russian, and also is well versed on CIA operations. Nellie Ohr’s skills would include how to build or create counterintelligence frameworks to give the appearance of events that may be entirely fabricated.

Knowing the NSA was reviewing FISA “Queries”; and intellectually accepting the resulting information from those queries was likely part of the framework put together by Glenn Simpson and Mary Jacoby; we discover that GPS employee Nellie Ohr applied for a HAM radio license [May 23rd 2016] (screen grab below).

Now this begins to take on additional context.

Open, traceable, or monitor-able communication, would be a risk.  The same FISA-702 surveillance activity, used to gather information on the Trump campaign, could just as easily be used against the ‘scheme team’.  NSA surveillance could discover information about the people now assembling FISA data into a fraudulent construct. The goal of that construct would be to justify continued counterintelligence operations, by the FBI, toward the Trump campaign.

The last thing Glenn Simpson, Mary Jacoby, Hillary Clinton, Christopher Steele, or the FBI would want – would be traceable communication networks.  Each of these people or entities would know exactly what the monitoring capability of government is.

Accepting the FBI was utilizing Fusion-GPS as a contractor, there is now an inherent clarity in the relationship between: FBI agent Peter Strzok, Fusion-GPS Glenn Simpson, and ‘Russian Dossier’ author Christopher Steele. They are all on the same team.

The information that Fusion-GPS Glenn Simpson put together from his advanced work on the ‘Trump Project’, was, in essence, built upon the foundation of the close relationship he already had with the FBI.

Simpson, Jacoby and Ohr then passed on their information to Christopher Steele who adds his own ingredients to the mix, turns around, and gives the end product back to the FBI.   That end product is laundered intelligence now called “The Trump/Russia Dossier”.

It is a circle of intelligence information.

The FBI turn around and use the “dossier” as the underlying documents and investigative evidence for continued operations against the target of the entire enterprise, candidate Donald Trump.  As Peter Strzok would say in August 2016: this is their “insurance policy” per se’.

“I want to believe the path you threw out for consideration in Andy’s office that there’s no way he gets elected – but I’m afraid we can’t take that risk. It’s like an insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before you’re 40.”

~FBI Agent Peter Strzok to FBI Lawyer Lisa Page

In October 2016, immediately after the DOJ lawyers formatted the FBI information (Steele Dossier etc.) for a valid FISA application, the head of the NSD, Asst. Attorney General John P Carlin, left his job.  His exit came as the NSD and Admiral Rogers informed the FISC that frequent unauthorized FISA-702 searches had been conducted. Read Here.

The FISA court declassified their opinion of the DOJ and FBI conduct, in May of 2017, and that’s the way the public discovered the 2016 admissions by the DOJ, FBI and ultimately the compliance department of the NSA.

Yes, the FBI was working with Christopher Steele through their contractor Fusion-GPS.  Yes, the FBI and Clinton Team were, in essence, both paying Christopher Steele for his efforts.  The FBI paid Steele via their sub-contractor Fusion-GPS.

Lastly, when the DOJ/FBI used the Steele Dossier to make their 2016 surveillance activity legal (the October FISA application), they are essentially using the outcome of a process they created themselves in collaboration with both Fusion GPS and the Clinton campaign.

All research indicates the intelligence information the DOJ and FBI collected via their FISA-702 queries, combined with the intelligence Fusion GPS created in their earlier use of contractor access to FISA-702(17) “about queries”, was the intelligence data delivered to Christopher Steele for use in creating “The Russian Dossier”.

Christopher Steele was just laundering intelligence.  The Steele “dossier” was then used by the DOJ to gain FISA-702 approvals – which provided retroactive legal cover for the prior campaign surveillance, and also used post-election to create the “Russian Narrative”.

Ten days after the election, November 17th 2016, Admiral Rogers traveled to Trump Tower without telling ODNI James Clapper. Rogers likely informs President-elect Trump of the prior surveillance activity by the FBI and DOJ, including the likelihood that all of Trump Tower’s email and phone communication were reviewed within the FISA-702 abuse.

On November 17th, 2016, NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers went to see President-Elect Donald Trump in Trump Tower, New York.  –SEE HERE–  Director Rogers never told his boss DNI, James Clapper.

On November 18th, 2016, the Trump Transition Team announced they were moving all transition activity to Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster, New Jersey. –SEE HERE– Where they interviewed and discussed the most sensitive positions to fill.  Defense, State, CIA, ODNI.

The transition team was set up in Trump Tower. The very next day, November 18th 2016, Trump moves the entire transition team to Bedminister New Jersey.

♦Ultimately, the people within all of these unlawful intercepts of information is what Devin Nunes discovered when he looked at the “unmasking requests” which were a result of those FISA 702(17) collections on Team Trump. That’s why Devin Nunes was so stunned at what he saw in February and March 2017.

The ENTIRE SYSTEM of FISA-702 surveillance and data collection was weaponized against a political campaign.  The DOJ and FBI used the FISA Court to gain access to Trump data, and simultaneously justify earlier FISA “queries” by their contractor, Fusion GPS.  FISA-702 queries were used to gather information on the Trump campaign which later became FBI counterintelligence surveillance on the officials therein.

President Trump is 100% correct!


IG Stimulated Releases of Information:

♦Release #1 was the FBI Agent Strzok and Attorney Lisa Page story; and the repercussions from discovering their politically motivated bias in the 2015/2016 Clinton email investigation and 2016/2017 Russian Election investigation.

♦Release #2 outlined the depth of FBI Agent Strzok and FBI Attorney Page’s specific history in the 2016 investigation into Hillary Clinton to include the changing of the wording [“grossly negligent” to “extremely careless”] of the probe outcome delivered by FBI Director James Comey.

♦Release #3 was the information about DOJ Deputy Bruce Ohr being in contact with Fusion GPS at the same time as the FISA application was submitted and granted by the FISA court; which authorized surveillance and wiretapping of candidate Donald Trump; that release also attached Bruce Ohr and Agent Strzok directly to the Steele Dossier.

♦Release #4 was information that Deputy Bruce Ohr’s wife, Nellie Ohr, was an actual contract employee of Fusion GPS, and was hired by F-GPS specifically to work on opposition research against candidate Donald Trump. Both Bruce Ohr and Nellie Ohr are attached to the origin of the Christopher Steele Russian Dossier.

♦Release #5 was the specific communication between FBI Agent Strzok and FBI Attorney Page. The 10,000 text messages that included evidence of them both meeting with Asst. FBI Director Andrew McCabe to discuss the “insurance policy” against candidate Donald Trump in August of 2016.

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1,550 Responses to The DOJ and FBI Worked With Fusion GPS on “Operation Trump”….

  1. zimbalistjunior says:

    This is why the Deep State were ‘cool’ with Obama victory and scared shitless with Trump’s Obama is an old time agent, from a family of agents. Look at his background, look at his mother and grandparents…online there are a couple of sundance-level investigations on this.They knew he knew the score, could be ‘trusted’. And he would use the levers of power in a quasi-legal manner (skirting the letter of the law but possibly did not go over) to further their aims.

    Their aims included a nuclear pact with Iran. For numerous reasons. Obama needed to secure a vote on this. (in a ridiculous, probably illegal, calling a treaty not a treaty, way). So he used the levers of power and espionage to spy on the congressmen he needed to vote his way. Congressmen who had been contacted and lobbied by other countries (allies of the US but so what). Obama and his agents used their information to then blackmail these congressmen.

    So when Schumer tells Trump not to mess with the intel community; he knows of what he speaks. When DiFi says she was pressured, when Schiff appears consistently with a sick look on his face to parrot talking points, they do so with a sword of damoclean blackmail over their head.

    This is what the dots connect to..Trump was just another op. The election was just another operation. No biggie, and it would have worked to, if not for Hillary being such a loathsome candidate and losing.

    Look at Strzok, et al for their connections to previous wet (wet-ish) work. This is not their first rodeo.

    Liked by 18 people

  2. This breaking story has received 0 coverage this evening…
    Everyone else is offering their spin on it…. in a different direction

    Liked by 4 people

  3. Truenative says:

    Why the he’ll isn’t Comey in cuffs for leaking classified into today! These people need to see that laws do matter.. I’m sick of his tweets

    Liked by 2 people

  4. I’ve been re-tweeting the crap out of this, even on CNN

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  5. sandab00 says:

    Anyone else notice that the name of the redacted FBI “private contractor” that was conducting the unauthorized FISA-702 Queries is about the size of a three-letter acronym? Like, oh, say “GPS”.

    Liked by 3 people

  6. Bacall says:

    Sundance, great work. Too many comments — it took me more than an hour to scroll to the end to see if my question was answered or raised: The FBI granted to subcontractor Fusion GPS access to NSA data from _____________ to 4-18-2016 when the Rogers compliance audit began. Can we find out when they were first placed in this position and for what purpose(s)?

    Liked by 3 people

  7. nottakingthisanymore says:

    Knowing This: Think back over eight years. How many principled have change this now makes sense.

    Liked by 2 people

  8. DeWalt says:

    Trump should drop this in Sessions lap with a loud thud by breaking into all the networks during primetime and using Sundances brief and timeline lay it all out for the world. As his ending statement look straight into the camera and say “This is the beginning of the storm”.

    Liked by 4 people

  9. Disgusted says:

    When does Sally Yates go to jail?

    Liked by 9 people

  10. D. Manny says:

    Another reason why I say it was CrowdStrike and not Fusion GPS is, you can’t find Fusion’s name on the FBI’s subcontractor database, but you can find CrowdStrike’s name:

    Here’s the searchable government contract site:

    Liked by 2 people

    • Convert says:

      Which is convenient. They are the same people who claimed to have the proof that Russians hacked the DNC servers, too, right?

      Liked by 4 people

    • phoenixRising says:

      I posted this on previous page – comes from Sundances twitter account – you can access all 90+ pages – p 83 & 84 pf special interest

      Liked by 3 people

      • D. Manny says:

        Yes, I read it all, but a few things aren’t adding up right.


        • PgtSndThinker says:

          I’m with you Manny. The volume of unmasked information they gathered is way out of proportion to what they needed for the dossier, I’m not convinced the targeted collection stopped in 2016, …..

          Liked by 1 person

      • WSB says:

        Hold it, didn’t Steele tell Simpson about a mole in the Trump Transition team? Is that certain? We know George Papadopoulos was probably a Hillary plant, but was there someone else, and why would a retired Brit MI6 officer know?


    • sundance says:

      You’ll note the contractor access, as outlined in the FISA court explanation of the issue, states “contractors” in the plural. As in, there was more than one contractor with FISA-702 Query capability.

      Perhaps CrowdStrike and Fusion-GPS both had the capability?

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      • wheatietoo says:

        Remember that girl named ‘Reality Winner’?
        The one who got busted for having NSA documents and giving them to a leftist group.

        Did she work for CrowdStrike?

        I am trying to figure out why my foggy brain pulled up her name.

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      • PocaMAGAhontas says:

        As subcontractors, could they be granted security clearance allowing access to data?

        Liked by 1 person

      • Deusvult says:

        Both were paid by DNC, Obama and Hillary campaign via Perkins coie.
        Both are the origin of the Russia Narrative.
        That said Crowdstrike has nothing directly to do with Trump. They are the ones who set the Russia Narrative up via claiming Russia hacked the DNC.
        (June it was).


      • Mary Morse says:

        …”certain ___ contractors”…

        FBI, NSA, CIA, NSA, DNI, etc?

        Liked by 1 person

      • wheatietoo says:

        Reality Winner got NSA documents in May 2017.
        She got busted for it in early June 2017.

        Admiral Rogers stopped 702 inquiries in April 2017…so I wonder how this girl, Reality Winner was able to access NSA data.

        I don’t know why my brain keeps trying to connect the Reality Winner case to this, maybe it’s the dates.

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        • nimrodman says:

          wheatie, at the time I don’t recall “queries” being mentioned with regard to Reality Winner, nor any mention that she was the type of NSA analyst that could perform queries.

          I had the impression it was paper materials she smuggled out, and recall some mention of Xeroxing. Sounded like she was handling paper files, maybe multi-page reports or assessments, that kinda thing.

          And that the materials she gave to the outside source still had security markings, that was what caused them to choke and report her..

          So I’m not sure the Reality Winner story is a story about NSA queries, necessarily.

          Just my vague recollections, tho. Anyone who followed that story more closely could helpfully sound off.


          • wheatietoo says:

            Articles I’ve read about her mention that she was fluent in Farsi, Erdu and Pashto…I saw no mention of her knowing the Russian language.

            So I can’t imagine how she would have been given any documents that pertained to topic of ‘Russians influencing our election’.

            Perhaps she saw it on someone else’s desk and took it, made a copy of it.
            I dunno.

            Going simply by what we’ve been told…it points to her gaining access to NSA data that was outside her area of assignments.

            She’s been charged with Espionage and I hope she goes to jail for a very long time.


            • nimrodman says:

              “gaining access to NSA data that was outside her area of assignments”

              Yes, agree, that’s the impression I got from the reporting at the time.

              But I didn’t say anything about “Russia”. I was mainly trying to distinguish between NSA database queries and old-style paper copies of classified material lying around and in file cabinets – that kind of thing.


              • wheatietoo says:

                Yeah, we haven’t been told exactly how she obtained what she passed on.

                But she hadn’t been there very long.
                If they do keep paper copies of intel in hard-copy files…how would she know which files to look in?
                Was there one labeled “Trump”?

                She worked at an NSA facility.
                The NSA isn’t supposed to be keeping files on US citizens…they’re supposed to be surveilling >>foreign<< bad guys.

                Given her young age, she's 25, I doubt she would know the first thing about researching in hard-copy files.
                That's very old school.
                It's also very time-consuming.

                Hard to imagine that she would have the time to peruse hard-copy files without someone asking "What the hell are you doing?"

                Given all that, I tend to think that she snooped into NSA raw data, via computer, using key word searches.

                Either way, this case illustrates how a civilian employee of a 'govt contractor' had access to NSA data on a private citizen.
                Which is unacceptable.

                One article mentioned a "fold mark" on the document that she passed on.
                This suggests that she smuggled a hard copy out of the NSA facility.
                Don't they check what the civilian contractors are taking out of the building?
                Apparently not.

                This case has alarming ramifications that have not been examined, and looks like it has been swept under the rug and ignored.


      • Also, wouldn’t Bruce Ohr still have access to FISA queries and be in a position to easily share with his dear wife Nellie who was hired by Fusion, perhaps for that purpose?
        Timing is good for it.

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      • Fake Nametag says:

        While that is possible, I think the way it is written, it could just as easily be multiple individual “contractors” (employees) working for a single contractor (company).


    • maggiemoowho says:

      Glenn Simpson also worked with the International Assessment and Strategy Center, they do open source and classified work for United States Government agencies.

      Liked by 2 people

    • woohoowee says:

      An earlier comment on this long thread shows Fusion GPS to be a CIA subcontractor.

      Liked by 6 people

    • Newhere says:

      Wasn’t the Washington Free Beacon a Fusion-GPS client for Trump oppo research during the primary, at the same time this reporting indicates Fusion-GPS had access to the 702 database as a FBI subcontractor? So no conflicts check, or FBI just didn’t care? Perhaps a feature, not a bug? (Realize reports are WFB had nothing to do with the Russia/Steele Dossier angle; point is though if this is the case, it would suggest the FBI/campaign oppo research “coincidence” was happening the whole time…..)

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  11. Kent says:

    The Obama administration…and bill and hillary…just as any common thief or criminal organization…is going to take advantage if the opportunity presents itself…that’s what criminals are…opportunists.

    If the barn door had remained locked the prize horses would have never been stolen….or the air compressor…or tool set….

    They are opportunistic and go for the low hanging fruit…..adequate security would have prevented this…

    Same goes for the Chicago political machine…if adequate safeguards had been in place for many decades it would have been contained….Obama would have never been elected.

    There is a class of people who think that if you are stupid enough to let them they will steal you blind….

    And, unfortunately….they have a point.

    Let’s hope we can regain our Republic.

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  12. This is a case of malum prohibitum vs. malum in se.

    The distinction is between an act that is wrong in itself, and an act that is wrong only according to our officially legislated laws.

    The Obama administration and the deep state will argue all day that they had legal right based on this law here and this order there…. but none of it can erase the fact that what they’ve done is absolutely naturally evil as adjudged by the sense of any civilized society. And no amount of words on a paper can legalize what they’ve done. Just like it didn’t work for the Nazi’s at Nuremberg, despite the fact that they had legal authority of the German Government to genocide their own citizens.

    The criminals have to be punished by our treason laws, with a sentence commiserate to that crime.

    Liked by 9 people

    • DanO64 says:

      Absolutely. There must be a public trail of all of the conspirators being tried as a group Nuremberg style.

      Liked by 3 people

      • Dixie says:

        I’m sure you meant “trial” and I like what you just said. Individually, we would never finish with them and they would never be punished. Personally, I think it’s a hopeless case anyway to expect them to suffer for what they’ve done. I said earlier and I’ll say it again,

        “There is no way all these people will ever be tried, convicted and sentenced to death. I would be satisfied to just see every last one of them stripped of everything they own and everything they would have ever been entitled to and then deported to some faraway place. Let God deal with them.”

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  13. phoenixRising says:

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  14. BillRiser says:

    Go ahead and make my day you TREASONOUS, SEDITIOUS CONSPIRACY SOB!


  15. PoppaNuke says:

    From my altitude I see:
    (1) DOJ/FBI collude with contractor to contrive alibi for collection and reporting against political opponent Trump. (This CTH post)
    (2) DOJ/CHI collude with press to place stories impinging political opponent Trump.
    (3) Twitter organizes effort to deny conservative voices a platform
    (4) Facebook denies platform for conservative efforts
    The question in any Marxist mind is “What are you,  200 CTH commenters, ever going to do about it? Disconnect? The Marxist will say “thanks.” You’re silenced.
    WHAT can possibly be done to counter deep-state, major social media platforms, and mainstream media from silencing you?
    Any of the millions of SJW-converged companies and persons would say only one thing:
    What, besides waiting for DOJ action, are you going to do?


  16. Hmmm says:

    There is another level to the story. It’s the only thing that makes sense. If your client has handed you access to NSA queries, you don’t hand them back a report with foolish stories about Russian hookers peeing on a bed. That report is just for show in case anyone demands to see work product. Rather, somewhere there is a real and more serious report.

    Liked by 2 people

    • Dixie says:

      I absolutely agree 100%. The public one looks like something teenagers would put together. I never have been able to understand why professionals would come up with such a stupid story.


  17. limelite001 says:

    Oh what a tangled web we weave, when we set out to deceive…..

    Obama’s finger prints are all over this. He won his Chicago senate seat by blackmailing his competitor. It’s the way this Affirmative Action spoiled brat roles. He can’t do anything honestly – therefore he relies on his feet-kissing minions to cover up his deviousness. He couldn’t win anything on his own without cheating and lying. That’s why he used the IRS to go after his political enemies, without a second thought. He knew he had the sycophantic media in his back pocket, circling the wagons around his every action. He is the true Mr Teflon – nothing sticks to him.

    But, karma is a patient lady…’s coming to visit the Clinton’s and the Obama’s very soon.

    Liked by 5 people

    • Truenative says:

      So true…. I bet the Clintons worked a deal to promise to teach him the art of grand theft, bribery and money laundering
      government style once he left office

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    • Deb says:

      He didn’t blackmail his competitors, he had the local media assist him in getting their tawdry divorce and custody case documents unsealed so they could be leaked to the press. The details therein sunk both his primary opponent and then the Republican.

      That is why he wanted Romney to release his taxes. It’s why they went after PDJT’s taxes. They try to find any bit of dirt and smear, smear, smear.

      But all of PDJT’s dirty laundry has been public knowledge for 30+ years. He refused to be intimidated or play their stupid games. They hate him because they couldn’t beat him.

      Liked by 8 people

  18. Justbill says:

    The unlawful “queries “ went back to 2010 from what I have read here on CTH. Does anybody know how long Fusion was a subcontractor/been in business? Also, would any of the unlawful “queries “ before 2016 come into play for this Bigly?


  19. Matthew LeBlanc says:

    I hope at a bare minimum they lose pension, disbarred, and plead to felony. No easy retirement, law license, or firearm ownership for life.

    Liked by 1 person

    • LKA in LA says:

      Most still have their jobs! What does it take to get fired from the DOJ or FBI? This is all insane. There just has to be more white hats than we initially thought because the losers really had quite a system of corruption right in our faces. I wonder if Hillary still has her superior smug face now that the lie is out.

      Liked by 1 person

  20. MAGA_wish says:

    There is a glaring contradiction in the official narrative regarding Nellie Ohr-

    She is reported as having worked for Fusion GPS during the 2016 election…from Fox’s report of 12/11/2017-

    “HPSCI staff confirmed to Fox News that she was paid by Fusion GPS through the summer and fall of 2016.”

    two days later, Fox reported this-

    “A co-founder of the opposition research firm Fusion GPS acknowledged in a new court document that his company hired the wife of a senior Justice Department official to help investigate then-candidate Donald Trump last year.”

    But on page 19 Glen Simpson’s testimony from Aug 22, 2017, right after the list of redacted names of Fusion GPS partners and employees including a half dozen he describes as analysts, there is this Q&A-

    22 Q. Is anyone who was an employee or associate
    23 of Fusion GPS in 20l5 or 2016 no longer with the
    24 company? And if so, who?
    25 A. Not that I can think of.

    If that statement was true and accurate, Nellie Ohr was still employed by Fusion GPS until at least Aug. 22 of 2017 and was still in their employ as Simpson was testifying on that date.

    It’s not clear if her name was disclosed during that testimony (because those names have been redacted), or if he forgot to name her and the December filing was intended to correct (or obfuscate) the record- but either way his answer not only calls his veracity into question, it also calls into question the claim that Nellie Ohr’s employment with Fusion GPS ended in the fall of 2016.

    Liked by 1 person

    • covfefe999 says:

      I noticed that part of the testimony too and was thinking the exact same thing you were, that if nobody left then Nellie was still working for them. So they have continued dealings with Russia? Still working on trying to take Trump out or have they moved on to victimizing someone else?


  21. LafnH2O says:

    Posted this a bout 800 hundred comments ago… prolly 900 by now.

    If there were 11 convicted… of Treason…
    Hopefully MORE!!!

    11. ^^^^^^

    NO HOODS!!
    Hands Tied in BACK!

    Gallows in the shape of a circle.
    Each facing the others!
    Each wearing the Hangman’s Necklace!
    Each draws “one of eleven”
    “Weirding Stones” from a BLACK VELVET BAG.

    KEPT In A Clinched Fist! HIDDEN!

    Who will be first?


    10-black stones = no. 1-white stone =yes

    Make Them PAY….
    Before The WORLD!!!


    Remove 1 black stone… repeat

    God, forgive me!


    • Kent says:

      Pumpkinhead….Original version

      “Keep away from Pumpkinhead,
      Unless you’re tired of living,
      His enemies are mostly dead,
      He’s mean and unforgiving,
      Laugh at him and you’re undone,
      But in some dreadful fashion,
      Vengeance, he considers fun,
      And plans it with a passion,
      Time will not erase or blot,
      A plot that he has brewing,
      It’s when you think that he’s forgot,
      He’ll conjure your undoing,
      Bolted doors and windows barred,
      Guard dogs prowling in the yard,
      Won’t protect you in your bed,
      Nothing will, from Pumpkinhead!” the poem…

      credit: Ed Justin


  22. freddy says:

    These crimes are unparalleled in American history. These are not retirement type get aways nor are they forget about it with time. These are the worst crimes in American history. Show me an example of something worse in a hundred years. Get loud this is the real deal and SD will help us close it up right.

    Liked by 2 people

  23. john taylor says:

    Remember those b/w photos of the Lincoln conspirators as they stood atop the scaffolding where they were hanged? Can we do that again?


  24. youme says:

    FISA-702 “search queries” by the Whitehouse were most likely used to target individual citizens tax returns:

    “A non-profit group, Cause of Action, began investigating whether the IRS was improperly sharing taxpayer information with the White House in 2012. Cause of Action filed a Freedom of Information Act request for any correspondence between the IRS and White House about tax returns for individuals or businesses. When the IRS refused the request, the group filed a lawsuit.
    A judge ruled that the IRS must turn over any relevant documents to Cause of Action. The Treasury Inspector General admitted that it has thousands of pages of responsive documents containing private taxpayer data. That admission seems conclusive. We just do not know whose tax records they are and who at the White House wanted them. Why would communications between the IRS and the White House contain confidential taxpayer information that by law is restricted to the IRS?”

    Liked by 2 people

  25. deplorabledooku says:

    Just wanted to add that it’s rather interesting that one of the players in this treason is Perkins Coie that just happens to be the law firm Obama paid millions of dollars to suppress/hide all of his personal history including his academic records as well as possibly his true birth certificate. A Perkins Coie partner named Robert Bauer became Obama’s WH counsel at the start of his reign of terror. Perkins Coie has been at the heart of this ongoing treason for years.

    Also of note, if it hasn’t already been said, Mary Jacoby Simpson (Glenn of GPS’s wife) got her start at the infamous Rose Law Firm which was home to Hitlery’s earliest schemes.

    I guess it is a small world after all.

    Liked by 9 people

  26. susanphd says:

    phenomenal. story unfolding and getting more interesting every day. sundance appears to have impeccable sources. pulitzer prize level work.

    Liked by 3 people

  27. Dennis says:

    Trump accuses Strzok of TREASON and all the news is about how Haiti is a sh!thole?

    Liked by 6 people

  28. Dzen says:

    It’s sobering to imagine the implications of long-term abuse of FISA data by political operatives…collecting and storing incriminating personal data…it’s power to indimidate and blackmail…this might explain much of the strange behaviour we’ve seen on the part of many Republican leaders over the years…and much could still exist at Resistance HQ and used well into the future.

    Liked by 1 person

  29. Sevenwheel says:

    So just to be clear here … the DOJ and FBI gave Fusion GPS unfettered search access to all the intercepted and recorded communications of all citizens in the the entire United States, with zero oversight, so they could use the information to compile an anti-Trump dossier?

    Good fucking god.


  30. Dumbledope, esquirt says:

    Sundance (and other Treers helping him),

    When you go searching for the government contract that FUSION had with the FBI to review the FISA materials (and to do the Queries) don’t forget that it is a DBA of something else (per the lawsuit captions I was reading the other day or maybe it was the Feinstein transcripts).


    • Sandra-VA says:

      Bean, LLC.

      Also, the contract might have been with a different three letter agency..

      Liked by 1 person

      • helpful (I hope) says:

        I think the dba’s that Bean LLC has/operates are a matter of public record with the secretary of state wherever it is based. If it is a subsidiary it will be harder to find. I’d try a principal or common address (on Bean’s Headquarters) or registered agent search within the database for Virginia??


  31. Brant says:

    I’m cool with the Rogers telling Trump what he knew and then Trump going to NJ, If Trump transition team moved to NJ wouldn’t some of them be asking why? Wasn’t Chris Christie in the transition? He doesn’t seem like one who could keep quiet. What about Pence? Was Guiliani on transition? Or do Trump just say we are going to NJ and all said, ok?

    Liked by 1 person

  32. NJF says:

    Ed Henry on FOX reporting more text messages between the love birds are set to be released.

    Liked by 6 people

  33. lawton says:

    Unbelievable that a company that has Russian clients is used as a private contractor for US intelligence agencies and is given access to FISA surveillance queries.

    Liked by 2 people

  34. Another Scott says:

    The most ironic thing is that they spun up that massively complicated plot and at the end of the day Donald Trump was probably the “cleanest” person they ever spied on. Maybe that’s why they had to fabricate the Steele Dossier….

    Liked by 5 people

  35. DanO64 says:

    The whole thing is unbelievable. Sundance is a Spartacus.

    Liked by 1 person

  36. Barack Hussein Obama has now displaced Benedict Arnold as the most SINISTER TRAITOR in AMERICAN HISTORY.

    Once he’s been hung, let’s take a CENSUS POLL to identify everyone who voted for him.

    Liked by 1 person

  37. covfefe999 says:

    I don’t doubt Sundance’s finding, but I’m having a hard time fitting “Fusion GPS” or any of Simpson’s other businesses into that FISC opinion’s redaction rectangles. 🙂 The section about the contractors starts on page 83.


  38. Truenative says:

    Trump needs to stall Mueller’s interview as long as he can..he’s just too busy taking care of POTUS stuff…All the while more stuff drips out…then start talking about de-classifying everything related to Russian collution. By that time Mueller won’t have anyone on his team left (leakers). IG report should be out by then. Then start pushing for another special counsel to look into foundations, uranium deals and while we are at it, let’s look into Hillary’s theft of DNC money.

    Liked by 1 person

  39. Greg Sheldon says:

    This is really fascinating. Every day a new twist. We are looking at a conspiracy unknown in scope in American Politics.

    I wonder if there are people behind and above these FBI and DOJ people and have been pulling strings for the Global Elite monied interests.


  40. ElGato says:

    How was the Podesta Group involved? I know they are knee deep.

    Liked by 1 person

  41. Realist says:

    And it ALL leads back the Bath House Barry HUSSEIN Soetero OHOMO the Serial Lying, Document Hiding, BC forging MUSLIM HOMOSEXUAL whose corrupt DemoncRAT REGIME infested all the alphabet organs of State with OBAMUNISTS who rushed to do their ‘Masters’ bidding and they are mostly STILL there.

    Liked by 1 person

  42. Craig from Scotland says:

    I suggest NCTC [National Counterterrorism Center] and private contractors are referred on page 83.
    See page 96 ref: Conclusion


  43. covfefe999 says:

    I understand your concern. Can you check out my posts above? There’s one where I write “Lawfare thinks it’s another federal agency.” It didn’t need to be an FBI contractor. What do you think about that? Possible that Fusion GPS, or Glenn Simpson or his wife, were involved as another agency’s contractor?


  44. hardworkingsob says:

    page 85 of the court document points to a FBI minimization compliance issue with a SECOND contractor called ????.


    • covfefe999 says:

      Are you looking at the sentence that begins with “In a separate violation of its minimization procedures” ? “to a xxxx contractor caled xxxxxxxxxxxxx” That first redaction is short and surely is an acronym/abbreviation. Because “a” precedes it, that rules out FBI, DOJ, and some other agencies. Could be CIA. We should pool some money and offer a reward. 🙂

      Liked by 1 person

  45. Regina says:

    I’m not sure if this has been posted (not much time to read full threads or post lately, sorry if a rehash) but Sundance tweeted something in regard to Trump’s earlier tweet “I have personally directed the fix to the unmasking process since taking office ”

    I think he was also referring to the memorandum signed January 9?

    Presidential Memorandum for the Director of National Intelligence

    By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the National Security Act of 1947 (50 U.S.C. 3001 et
    seq.), as amended, I hereby order as follows:

    Section 1. Requirement for Procedures. (a) The Director of National Intelligence shall, within 30 days of the date of this memorandum, issue and release publicly a policy requiring that each element of the Intelligence Community (IC) develop and maintain procedures for responding to requests from Federal, State, local, tribal, or territorial government officials for non-public identity information concerning known unconsenting United States persons that was originally omitted from disseminated intelligence reports.
    (b) The procedures developed pursuant to subsection (a) of this memorandum shall supplement and not supersede:
    (i) procedures for the collection, retention, and dissemination of information concerning United States persons established pursuant to section 2.3 of Executive Order 12333 of December 4, 1981 (United States Intelligence Activities), as amended;
    (ii) standard minimization procedures established pursuant to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 (50 U.S.C. 1801 et seq.); and
    (iii) any other procedures for the collection, retention, or dissemination of information concerning United States persons required by law.
    Sec. 2. Notification. The Director of National Intelligence may not modify or otherwise supersede the issued guidance, or any successor guidance, absent notification to the President, through the Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs, of the proposed modifications or new guidance and the passage of 30 days following such notification.


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