Merry Christmas. Well, it appears people -lots of people- are quickly catching on. As we shared earlier:
“The records IG Horowitz is sharing are details his investigation has uncovered that outline the larger FBI and DOJ collusion against candidate, and possibly President, Donald Trump.
While the partially recused Attorney General Jeff Sessions watches it play out, Asst. Attorney General Rod Rosenstein works as the conduit to ensure those records are provided to congress per request. Yes, Rosenstein, like Horowitz, is also a white hat.
Their united approach with this information is essentially confirming what CTH has written about for the past several weeks. There is a clear strategy here with the information that is surfacing for us to absorb.
Each piece of released information outlines the location of a larger piece of information. Congressional committees just need to keep asking questions, follow the trail of evidence, seek more investigative discovery material, and interview the DOJ and FBI officials named along the way.” (more)
Um,… well,… Cue The Audio Visual – “where are we going?”:
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I think the latest rumour of Trump firing Mueller over Christmas when Congress on recess is another, to catch a leaker, strategy. The leaks are real, the news is fake. Why fire him when he is (wittingly or unwittingly who’s to know) is give us so much fun stuff?
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Only the deputy attorney general who appointed Mueller can fire him, according to this.
http://www.factcheck.org/2017/06/can-trump-fire-mueller/
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That sounds like a constitutional problem then. The president is the head of the executive branch. If this were a special counsel set up by the legislative branch, that would be another thing. To have an unelected official at the top is a constitutional problem.
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“Trump could order the special-counsel regulations repealed and then fire Mueller himself.”
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No law or regulation should be respected when it comes to the supremacy of the US president over the executive branch. The checks and balances against the president are found with the legislative and judiciary.
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The President can indeed terminate the Special Counsel and likely will if the temporary AG won’t do it sometime soon.
Here’s a short discussion of Mueller’s Gang illegally obtaining Trump Transition Team documents including numerous confidential attorney-client privileged communications.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3614264/posts
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fastcheck is garbage. Check out the US Constitution and use your own brain and not what someone tells you it says. https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/constitution-transcript
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Yep, most of us remember the “Saturday Night Massacre” when Nixon had to fire a bunch of people to find someone(Robert Bork) to fire Archibald Cox.
Not pretty. Most people thought Nixon was guilty at that time. I think today most Americans see this for exactly what it is….fake news!
We’re winning. There is no need to take such a foolish action, IMO.
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Exert from a more reliable source:
“President Trump should dispose of the regulations for firing Mueller. He doesn’t have to cite misconduct or conflicts of interest, etc., in sending Mueller packing. His justification: Mueller’s appointment was premised, in large part, on false accusation — a complete lie arising from malicious political intent. That position is simple to substantiate and argue for”.
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2017/07/fire_mueller.html
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“Dispose of the regulations”
That’s the key.
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You might not be aware but factcheck it dnc owned and operated.
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I do, and fact check them accordingly.
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Mueller is hanging on hoping POTUS will fire him so that the MSM, Ds, and others can accuse the President of obstuction and demand he step down. Mueller failed to find anything at all, even to give the slightest leverage. His challenge has been to avoid the target rich environment of Obama/ Clinton associates, yet come up with some little spark that could be nurtured into a conflagration.
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Well put.
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This dog don’t hunt.
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That is why PDJT has not taken any action, yet. Public opinion is changing as OIG investigation details are being released. Soon.
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I just tuned into Fox News and caught the tail end of a report that Mueller has supposedly violated President Trump’s 4th amendment rights in gaining access to some documents. Didn’t catch it all but more fruit of the poisonous tree by the sounds of it.
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Could this be the violation:
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/12/wow-trump-lawyer-strikes-back-mueller-unlawfully-obtained-transition-emails-russia-probevideo/
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If that violation is proven in a court of law, Citizen Trump would then have a clear winnable federal lawsuit regarding violation of his civil rights. In fact if Mueller and his team showed reckless disregard of the truth,they could actually lose their badge of immunity and become personally liable for damages. Now would’nt that be sweet ?
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If so, it should be dawning on him that he is in some deep doodoo.
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The President won’t have to fire Mueller.
When the OIG report drops and the public realizes the Russian thing was all predicated on a lie, Mueller, never trumpers, and Democrats will not only look foolish and stupid but they will be dealing with a scandal so huge that the universe will no longer have room enough to remember Watergate.
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Why fire him when he can just die in the vine slowly twisting in the wind. Useless and will be outed as such when OIG Report is published.
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This is my point exactly. It’s entirely unnecessary for Trump to fire him. The rumors of Mueller’s firing are probably more leak tests.
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Trump isn’t going to fire him. Not even close.
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Agree.
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” over Christmas when Congress on recess”
Actually, they can’t really “recess” because they want to deny PDJT the option of “recess appointments”, right? So I think one of the drones has to physically come in each day and gavel the thing into action for a few seconds, even though no one else is there.
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That sucks. EVERY ONE of those Republicans should be publicly humiliated, chastised, and voted out of office. NO SURVIVORS!
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This method of keeping Congress open is a sham in itself.
One Congressman is not the Congress. One Senator is not the Senate.
Imagine an “open and operating” Emergency Room with doors shut and only one medical staffmenber there.
Imagine a large shopping mall calling itself “open for business” with the doors shut and only one shopkeeper in it.
It is a lie.
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Fox News is reporting that Mueller illegally obtained Trump transition team documents off of the GSA server that the government had set up when the Trump transition team was given government office space after the election. Apparently, the server was search for any emails and documents from the Trump transition team and scooped up everything with the GSA turning these materials over to Mueller, including documents covered by the attorney/client privilege. Fruit of the poisonous tree would taint everything Mueller has with illegal snooping into the Trump transition teams legal paperwork during the transition.
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Don’t be fooled. Look at the flip side; evidence illegally obtained is not admissible in court. Make sure they are not trying to throw out all evidence that implicates the insidious corruption of the democrats, dnc, et al.
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News flash for Mueller and the DIMS: this is not going to play well outside the Swamp, DNC headquarters, in academia and in the media. Real American– the people who vote–will see this as disgusting and a mess they are already very, very tired of. What a sad end for a man like Mueller.
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“Yes, Rosenstein, like Horowitz, is also a white hat.”
NOT holding my breath. Color me as a 60 yr. plus swamp whipped cynic. There are no white hats in the DC swamp. They may pretend to be when it serves their purpose.
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The toughest place to be a white hat is when one is behind enemy lines (such as all of D.C.) . . . remember that.
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I wish I could buy this “white hat” business. But I cannot. I don’t know this IG but my guess is his final report will be an inconclusive mixed-bag that will allow the key figures to skate. Congress will continue to huff and puff but in the final analysis just issue their own findings amounting to nothing.
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Congress will not get a chance to pass gas let alone huff and puff. The AG or whoever the President picks to succeed him if necessary will convene a grand jury. Then it is OVER and the crow eating season will start. (I prefer mine baked with garlic and mushrooms….)
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I’ll be delighted to eat crow, no garlic or mushrooms necessary.
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I just read this on aim4truth and it doesn’t look like the resume of a white hat. I really hope he is, but…
https://www.fbcoverup.com/docs/library/2017-12-15-Michael-Evan-Horowitz-DOJ-Inspector-General-corruption-analysis-prepared-Dec-15-2017.pdf
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A likely attempt by dems to get ahead of their executioner.
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Or forced into a corner and have to do the right thing to protect their own rear end.
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white hat doesn’t necessarily mean pro-Trump. It just means that he puts law above political motives.
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A cynic is a disappointed idealist….
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Ok, try thinking about it this way: are there people out there who would be willing to do the right thing for the wrong reasons; such as saving one’s own hide or even getting revenge on somebody else or gaining some wanted thing? or perhaps are there people out there who would generally act in a decent fashion if they felt they were safe to do so (and let’s be honest: the last few decades have not been safe for generally decent people doing generally decent things especially in government/authority type positions)?
Yes, yes there are because that is human nature.
So…things can work out very well with only generally decent people doing things, even with rotten people involved, IF there is a sufficient enough reason for them to do the right thing…and odds are probably that such people are far more abundant than hero types (to be sure, there are those out there as well, but they’re like saints — not very often you find them).
And that is reason to be at least a little more hopeful about how things might turn out.
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I was wondering how long that was going to take.
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Thank you, God in Heaven, Amen and Amen 🙏🇺🇸🙏
God bless President Trump and all the good people working so diligently to drain that horrible cesspool of corruption.
The night is dark and full of terrors for those facing their comeuppance.
MAGA On!
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For those facing said comeuppance, I’m going to enjoy watching their knees run with urine (reference Ezekiel 7:17 CSB).
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What makes me laugh 😆 is the fact that these POS never ever thought our President was going to win. Peter Strzok #2 in the FBI in the counterintelligence team was dumb enough to text his POS Whore and vice a versa on a government issued phone. Once again there was no way our President was going to win.
As we all celebrated on November 9, 2016, these POS must have felt like their world was just flipped upside down. They still had confidence that their messiah was going to take care of everything. When our President sent that tweet out saying that Barry had wiretapped Trump Tower, these POS realized that the pendulum was beginning to swing back the other way. They thought Mueller was going to save the day. They now realize that is going up in smoke.
Now their insides are beginning to eat them alive! They are having to drink themselves to bed at night because their minds won’t allow them to sleep.
The anticipation of Death 💀 is far worse than Death 💀 itself!
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Exactly, Felice!
The fix was in, or so they believed, that cankles was a shoe-in to win.
Until, she didn’t!!!!
🇺🇸🦁🇺🇸🦁🇺🇸🦁🇺🇸❤️
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“Was a shoe-in to win” …until she became SHOELESS! Heh heh
Love the Garrison cartoons and now have all my friends searching for the shoe in them. 👠
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I love your enthusiasm and spirit Flep…My kind a girl!
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We’re gonna need a bigger bag of popcorn. Enjoy the show. 😎
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😂😋
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That’s my latest order.
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it’ll be raining popcorn all across america when the day comes!😂
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This is why these Dems are fighting so hard. They are getting very uncomfortable with what is beginning to unfold and they are running scared. This is why folks shouldn’t fear impeachment. They will try all of this stuff but they will fall flat on their faces and have so far. Their day is coming!
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Right. This is destroying them politically… but criminally? Not so much.
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I don’t even know about politically. Their base continues to love them.
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True, which is why ensuring voting integrity is SO important. Citizens only.
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Cross rib…THIS! I think voter fraud will be addressed in depth in the next year and as much as can be done will get underway. Unfortunately, if States do not want it to happen for their own agendas it will not be easy. But, at least begin with federal elections.
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Yep. Turned out 92% of them in Alabama to vote for their baby killer.
Oh, wait, that 92% figure is about 50% of the fraudulent vote total.
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Doug Jones’ constituency includes Georgia and Mississippi
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The only regrets the goats on the left will have is that the conspiracy was uncovered and didn’t succeed as well as hoped for. Fingers will be pointed at a few mid-level flunkies for roping.
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“Where are we going with all this…?”
Answer?: “We’re going to see all these people in hearings on TV and not one of them will be wearing orange or irons.”
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That is the worse part.
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Daniel do you remember how long it took republicans to recover from Watergate. People went to jail then, not many but a few. A presidents legacy was destroyed. This is 100 times worse the least we can hope for is ten times as many to go to jail.
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That was dims doing what they do best.
Pubs. “ain’t” never done squat to put anyone away. And in this case, pubs. are just as guilty by having wanted and still want Trump out of office. So, the crooks in the DOJ?FBLie were doing what the pubs. wished they could have done and probably knew what was being done or had a damn good idea.
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The president said he would teach them how to win.
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The problem with your comment is that the media turned on the Republicans like rabid dogs and their lemming followers piled on. That will not happen to the Democrat Party as over 90% of the media are allied with them and much of the voting public level of comprehension is sound bite or video clip deep. They will keep their “30%” core and be able to buy the rest with the dollars taken from folks and organizations who actually pay taxes.
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Oh Gil! Gil! Where are you Gil?!!
It’s that time buddy! Time for ‘The Meme” to be posted.
Somebody que Gil of the Treehouse, please!
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Hmmmm….you mean this?
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So glad I don’t have any kind of beverage at my keyboard…. Ha.
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Wow week end fun to. I thought for sure Saturday and Sunday would be slow but no Sundance smiles upon us with delicious finds and commentary.
Anybody know what the Sunday talks will be about. Probably the story of Trumps best friend in Kindergarten parents being recent Russian immigrants. She was probably a girl Trump pushed when in line for milk.
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Oh you can be sure Chris Wallace will dazzle everyone with his fake news and biased commentary. He never fails us. Does he have any viewers left?
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Okay Sundance but what is Mueller? White or black hat? Were the indictments of Papa and Flynn red herrings? I mean they did lie but again they were minor process charges.
Also someone commented on the other thread that Mueller is going after Trump via his finances. I dont recall reading anything about Mueller getting Trumps finance info.
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What color is a referee’s hat?
Remember, his angle is all about apportioning *leverage*. On one hand he is defending the swamp; on the other hand he cannot ignore the obvious malfeasance (the evidence is overwhelming).
Mueller is willing to let Trump drain the swamp, to a certain level. But Mueller is also unwilling to allow Trump to tear down his beloved institutions and lock up his friends.
So… Mueller is negotiating leverage.
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Ah, I understand your perspective now.
Unfortunately it’s a losing game for Mueller. Mueller’s leverage has an expiration date. All Mr. Trump has to do now is wait.
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When its all over it will look like this.
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“Mueller is also unwilling to allow Trump to tear down his beloved institutions and lock up his friends.”
So, what is a certain level of draining. And why the hell should Mueller be deciding what that level should be and why does he get to protect his friends. His “friends” are the ones involved in this treasonous act.
Confirms, then, that no one is going to be indicted in this crap sammich except little fish on process crapola. If that.
Knew it. What a waste of time and money.
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So Mueller needs to go. There can’t be any:
‘You can have the low level people but not the people that organized the whole mess.” Does not want his Institutions to fail..like the failed institutions of Harvard, the Senate, HUD, Teachers Union, the UN, the EU, Germany..oh no we can’t have the FBI or DOJ fail…it is an institution. Let em all fall down, screw it.
They tried to set a trap. They plotted a coup against the President of the United States which is still under way and they got caught. Mueller’s deeds as head of the FBI are noted.
The real question is: “Why would Mueller choose all these individuals who where already involved in the “big scheme”. Overconfidence, pride, a set up?
Must be careful. Now him being in place is supposedly exposing all of these players so let him run??? I dunno…
The IG Report is coming and if it is as is anticipated, just get rid of Mueller so he can not cause any damage..Just Sayin
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“So… Mueller is negotiating leverage.”
Is that the reason for the meeting this week between Mueller and PDJT’s legal team?
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The President is being deposed…….to change the narrative in the media.
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What Real leverage could Mueller possibly have on Trump? Especially opposed against the obvious malfeasance? (Flynn and Manafort are ridiculous pawn pieces for Mueller.)
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Obviously nothing will happen to Clinton or Obama — ever, which means they might be negotiating for how high in that chain they will go.
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Well Mueller’s plan might have leverage up until the point he becomes a target of any investigation. IMO he becomes more teinted with each passing day as the FBI’s corruption is exposed – daily. I think PDJT always holds the trump card. PDJT has even put a timeframe on the close down of the SC investigation – by year end. – also reiterated by PressSec. I don’t see Mueller being able to hold back the dam forever, but what he does in the next month before the IG releases records Jan 15th will be interesting. I’m putting my bets on the master negotiator.
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i.e. Mueller is a very Black Hat and has been since the get-go. His shenanigans go back to the 1990s. Morals be damned. He collects evil like lint on a black suit.
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Sundance, listen to Dan Bongino on F & F this AM, and pay close attention beginning at 3:30…
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…”I think there’s a STORM coming”.
“Calm before the storm”.
Buckle down and hold on for the ride!!
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Hi Dan!
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strapping into my lazyboy!!!
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I mentioned this idea 3 or 4 days ago, fyi this Fox weekend stuff is recycled weekday events.
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Thanks for posting this!!!! Storm coming, indeed! He also hits on the deliberate trapping of leakers theory. Most interesting.
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“Congressional committees just need to keep asking questions, follow the trail of evidence, seek more investigative discovery material, and interview the DOJ and FBI officials named along the way.”
To what end?
When has a congressional committee ever led to the prosecution of anyone other than Scooter Libby and he was not the culprit but Bush let him get screwed? Worse thing that could happen to a criminal conspiracy is for a congressional committee to get involved. They are there to cover it all up in a dog and pony show. Give me grand juries and indictments. I don’t want to see a congressional committee anywhere near this crap sammich.
If a congressional committee is involved, it is nothing more than a cover up with the uniparty posturing and playing their scripted roles to fund raise off of and gin up their respective base to vote for them. It is a farce we have seen over and over and over.
If any one is touting a congressional committee to drain the swamp, someone is playing us for suckers.
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Ahhh Watergate? Investigative committees exist to show the people the depth of the problem and the names of the players. Political careers are destroyed but they cannot charge. that is the job of the AG.
I want a country when this is over I don’t require shake and bake results. The country has to be brought up to speed and dominos need to fall one at a time.
I am sorry you do not like the process but the process is older then you or I give it time to work. Please stop complaining about all the recent history and the corruption of the uniparty swamp. That is changing. The Clinton Bush Obama years are over. Now we have to take out the trash.
You have been so use to subterfuge and coverup, the sunlight confuses you.
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The odds are in my favor. Never bet against the odds.
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And, by the way, the swamp has been the swamp long before Clinton/Obama. And, Bush did what, exactly to drain it in his 8 yrs?
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Bush did nothing he reveled in it that is why I included him in my list ….see later post.
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I don’t think all of the posters on this thread are really Trump supporters. They are still trying to discourage those of us here that believe Trump will be able to reform some of these corrupt agencies.
And they arrive with their sock puppet accounts to comment and agree with them.
You can tell who they are.
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They are luke warm supporters at best, if that.
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Axios just dropped this “scoop” a few minutes ago.
https://www.axios.com/scoop-mueller-obtains-tens-of-thousands-of-trump-transition-emails-2517994590.html
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Transition emails? This is absurd! The process of handing over power to the incoming administration should not be part of this investigation whatsoever.
Frankly, I think a lot of oppo research is being gathered, strategies used to win election etc being gathered so that the D’s will profit from it in upcoming elections.
I find it alarming that a Presidential campaign was targeted by the outgoing administration and still so after the President took office.. AND IT IS BEING ALLOWED TO HAPPEN!
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It has to be done. The more evidence the better.
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The President already handed over everything. Including transition stuff.
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Is that anything new? IIRC the WH has said all along they’d comply with requests for emails. AFAIK the President hasn’t tried to hide anything—he has nothing to hide. Probably this isn’t going to make any difference in the outcome of Mueller’s investigation, but it does makes a good headline.
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After this investigation is finished Mueller and his cabal will know everything about POTUS. What he eat when he sleeps wakes up how he thinks what his strategies are who advises him i what and how.
How he won the election what his strategy was how he was advised all the working of his campaign.
Some here said ” so the democrats know win elections or how to stop POTUS.
I do not like this at all. Mueller ignoring Hillary and her cabal is shameful. I do not believe Rosenstein is a good guy if he was feathers would be flying .
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“Sources” say.
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Somebody just leaked. Count on it. Real leak. Fake news. Big trouble for somebody. See who gets fired this weekend or Monday.
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👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸
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“Trump officials discovered Mueller had the emails when his prosecutors used them as the basis for questions to witnesses, the sources said”
“The twist: The sources say that transition officials assumed that Mueller would come calling, and had sifted through the emails and separated the ones they considered privileged. But the sources said that was for naught, since Mueller has the complete cache from the dozen accounts.”
So, Trump officials are clueless?
And Mueller can get every single Trump related email, but no one can get the 33,000 emails Hillary wiped clean w/a cloth. Black Hat for sure. He’s after Jared.
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I agree he’s aftr Jar*d, but, imo, it’ll be a cold day in h*ll before Muller ever gets within striking distance of any family member. Daddy wolverine will persoanlly dispense of that enemy — no holds barred. I will have to put Muller as too big for his britches to evey think that’s a path he should go down. Stand back if he does as lighting will stike him dead in his tracks.
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This is dangerous that Mueller has all emails because now Mueller can pull a Flynn on any of the staff you cannot remember something correctly. This stinks. I am getting impatient with those who propagandize that Mueller is a good guy.
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Now Comey’s latest email makes sense did he just give Mueller a nudge…?
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A lawyer for the Trump presidential transition team is accusing Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s office of inappropriately obtaining transition documents as part of its Russia probe, including confidential attorney-client communications and privileged communications.
More on this: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/16/trump-lawyer-mueller-improperly-obtained-transition-documents-in-russia-probe.html
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Good. Go after his license. Show some guts and backbone! Come on. Defend our President!!
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I’m speaking to the lawyer not you Firefly:)
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Nothing during the transition between 44 & 45 was illegal, or collusion with Russia
Another case of the “The news is fake but the leak is real”????
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That answers the question of why PDJT’s legal team met with Mueller this week.
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I don’t believe it is possible to ‘restore’ anyone’s confidence in the FBI. It has been corrupt since J. Edgar Hoover, it is corrupt now, and if allowed to continue, it always will be corrupt.
Power corrupts, and that is what every one of these unaccountable agencies is about, and nothing more: POWER.
And we have seen with our OWN EYES that absolute power corrupts absolutely.
That is nature of the FBI, CIA, NSA, BLM, (B)ATF and every other quasi-military police force in the federal government.
It is right before our eyes.
You don’t ‘fix’ something like that, you don’t ‘reform’ it; you make an EXAMPLE out of it, one that with a little luck, will last at least a generation or two, before it happens again — which it WILL, unless anyone believes the nature and character of Man has changed since Adam (hint: it hasn’t).
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The reason History repeats itself (negative history, specifically) is because with the passage of time, people forget lessons of the past, or those who do remember pass away, and those who come after have no direct experience. And having the same nature as those who came before, they make the same mistakes as their ancestors.
This pattern repeats throughout time.
As expressed and recorded in Scripture, thousands of years ago:
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“The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun. [10] Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us. [11] There is no remembrance of former things; neither shall there be any remembrance of things that are to come with those that shall come after.” (Ecclesiastes 1:9-11, KJV)
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We cannot change it; the best we can do is try to manage it.
You don’t manage it by ‘reform’.
Has any powerful institution run by men, having become wholly corrupt, ever been ‘reformed’, either internally (try not to laugh) or externally, anywhere in the world, in the history of mankind?
If it has never happened before, if there is no example in all the world, then we are simply lying to ourselves if we think it will be any different with our wholly corrupt institutions.
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The culture of a Nation has never been rolled back. Right now our culture is on the road to ruin.
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My thought as I read you posts is that you have great wisdom; then I read Ecc 19-11 reference and knew I recognized your source of wisdom. Thank you for the posts. Always enjoy yours.
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If the CIA is corrupt the DOJ and FBI then we are very close to a take over and dictatorship because there is nothing in the way. Our last president set up a possible dictatorship after Hillary when Federal Agencies would have been transformed.
People this is serious.
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Those who will not study history are DOOMED to repeat it.
My paraphrase
Also, some of us do study and we own rocking chairs and porches and we like to drink lemonade in the afternoon. We also enjoy a good fireworks show.
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Interesting how naming Mueller as special prosecutor to handle all the Russian collusion stuff has jettisoned all that white noise, and provided a diversion while literally the entire DOJ and FBI was free to sneak up on the real story, which is the joint DOJ/FBI operation, run by their highest officials, to subvert the presidential election, steer it to Hillary, and guarantee either a Hillary win or a hamstrung Trump presidency. Perhaps the special counsel wasn’t such a bad idea, in hindsight.
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IG brilliant work around…..
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I credit the Master Negotiator with having a plan that’s playing out gloriously. Imo mulehead will be left holding a big bag of card carrying leftists who will exemplify what the hag supporters to best — steal our money as they go after conservatives — a bunch of swamp dwellers not different that the FIBers he oversaw. Yah, IG Report will leave Mulehead & Co looking like fools. The Master Plan by the Master Negotiator — at least that’s how it’s playing out to me. We’ll see.
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RE: “where are we going?”
https://media.tenor.co/images/6518b5a284a0e8df1f4c7cffccf7dd41/raw
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Link should open up to a relevant gif.
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“The Good, the Bad, the Ugly” & Suspicious Cat!
LOL
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VERY Good!!!
Well done!!!
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gotta love that gif!
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This is great!! Hope I can borrow it!
This is what all the colluding crooks will look like when the noose tightens around their necks!
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This all should conclude right before the November elections sometime next year. Trump lawyers are meeting with Mueller. Love to be a fly on the wall for that conversation.
One connection that would be important is who were the actual people in the 17 agencies that wrote the Russian Interference report…. why do I get the sense they are going to be the same 1/2 dozen people.
BTW – I also suspect the Lynch – Clinton Tarmac meeting wasn’t about letting Clinton off the hook. It was about discussing what it was going to cost them.
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I believe the Dossier changed hands in that plane.
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didn’t they have the FISA warrant before the tarmac meeting?
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There were only two.
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interesting to watch this now that we know about mccabe, esp warners comments at around the 22 minute mark
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talks about avoiding political influence at 25 minute mark
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If Rosenstein is a white hat then he lied to Congress. Lots of debate about Sessions and Rosenstein. I’m waiting on Sessions and there are some good arguments for. Rosenstein…meh.
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Same here. If Rosenstein is a white hat, then why Mueller of all people? Was Rosenstein’s hand forced?
I believe Jeff Sessions’ recusal was a highly targeted objective by the Swamp critters. I doubt Sessions would’ve appointed Mueller to the investigation.
However, it could be argued that Rosenstein appointed Mueller in order to use him like a dye test – Oncologists inject dye into a patient and the dye highlights the cancer. They then know where and how to attack the disease. If this analogy holds true with Mueller, then all they needed was to appoint him and follow his movements to the deep state conspirators.
This scenario would be the greatest story of justice in the history of the United States. I’m willing to believe something like this could occur in an era with none other than Donald Trump in the White House.
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“we will restore the credibility of the fbi and the department of justice.”
unless there are massive arrests resulting in serious jail time for everyone involved in this attempted coup, that just ain’t gonna happen. a few fall-guys taking the rap isn’t going to cut it.
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Pres. Said they were going to rebuild also. You have to tear it down to rebuild no?
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yes, and our president is worthy of trust, but congress critters? not so much. i was quoting the congressman from florida featured in the vid. every time one of them gets in front of cameras, the congressional hearings to nowhere come to mind. unless something very tangible comes from all this, the credibility of our law and order agencies is toast…imo. 😉
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I took PDJT’s comment to mean they’re going to clean house at the FBI/DoJ. Some players will lose their jobs or be demoted and reassigned to peripheral positions. As part of an overhaul, I imagine there will be stricter enforcement of rules prohibiting political bias in investigations by FBI and prosecutions by DoJ. Whether criminal charges are brought against corrupt senior FBI officials remains to be seen but that’s a separate consideration from the badly needed cleanup.
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The man has done what he said he would. I take him at his word. Rebuild isn’t a code word for whitewash.
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Similar to the fight on illegal immigration. Hold some accountable, and the rest will change their behavior because they know there will be consequences.
Not as satisfying as seeing each and every violator punished, but this is real life. Lots of other real problems to fix.
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Investigations and exposure do not Held Accountable make…
for me it means prange suits perp walks handcuffs and bars…..with log prison terms….but heck I am funny that way about corruption.
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Orange not Prange…lol
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Hangin Sam Parker had the right answer to corruption.
Just sayin’
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I like both. Prison for the lawbreakers and exposure for the corrupt who didn’t break the law.
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Framed!
I wish people would start using the word “Framed” for what these weasels have done to our President.
“Framed” is a word that regular folks understand.
There were people in high levels of the Obama administration who actively conspired to Frame Donald Trump for a manufactured, false offense.
And Matt Gaetz is emerging as a rock star in all this.
I love this guy!
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Yeah, Matt has become one of my favorites rather quickly.
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The FBI/CIA are masters at framing and criminal entrapment.
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First term congressman, I believe! Hasn’t had time for the swamp tentacles to grab him yet? He seems pretty MAGA!
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PTrump giving a speech at the cia memorial abut building a new building without columns. Columns refers to the shaddow government. Jack Kallstrom knows the intelligence lingo on columns
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Now, how would they know that?
Trump lawyer: Mueller improperly obtained transition documents in Russia probe
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/16/trump-lawyer-mueller-improperly-obtained-transition-documents-in-russia-probe.html
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I am a Trump supporter and am serious asking this because I too want justice if it’s warranted.
What laws have been broken? And if any, by whom and what’s the penalty?
Hand flailing and earnest voiced congressmen that are all talk and zero action are tiring (Gowdy, Jordan), and seem to serve nothing more than the antagonist props of government theater. Same for this Gaetz guy. New earnest face saying nothing of consequence.
Again, what laws have been broken?
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Too many to list.
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Certainly the IG has been investigating McCabe for breaking the law regarding the Hatch Act, that is the first that comes to mind because there is photographic evidence even.
I would recommend you read Sundance’s pretty comprehensive list of reference material that he provided in a post earlier today as a starting point.
If this is a serious question, I suggest you look at Gregg Jarrett’s legal analysis for FOX News from a day or two ago where he lays out in a very lawyerly fashion the known circumstantial evidence for the various crimes by the various players uncovered so far.
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At the top of my personal list:
shillery sent classified emails via unclassed systems to unclear recipients. That’s 10 plus 10 years per message.
PER MESSAGE!!!!
Recently the IG identified 22 messages from SAP that would mean 22 times 20 years equals 440 years at Fort Leavenworth Kansas Federal Penitentiary.
Next, obysmal arranged for Seal Team Six to be shot out of the sky over hostile territory. TREASON, that means gallows in public at noon.
I could go all day…
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Mueller still has some cards to play. Reports out that his team has obtained 1,000’s of transition emails from Trump’s team.
I would not be surprised if they are planning to seed their findings with faked emails.
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It’s a tactic they are going to use. Convict our team on their emails and tweets, and we will convict your team on the same. Just as Sundance said. LEVERAGE.
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Jason Chaffetz is yakking again about how Trump needs to fire Sessions. Why are all these people suddenly wanting PDT to fire people or worried about PDT firing people.
Suddenly the dems are running around with their hair on fire claiming PDT is going to fire Mueller on 12/22. They are going to take to the streets or something.
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Look for another tag team to keep the “congress in session” over the holidays as was done earlier this year.
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Didn’t feel this way at the beginning, but Since we have let this go on for a yr., Don’t want to see Sessions, Mueller, or Rosy fired. Let this play out and then we will know who should be fired. It will soon be time to do it or get off the pot.
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4 years of (new world Order ) Bush. 8 years of (White house for rent) Clinton. 8 years of (he wanted to kill my daddy) Bush and 8 years of (lets arm the terrorists Obama). In-spite of all that some folks here expect indictments to be delivered by Lunch.
No 30 minute or free guarantee here folks. Evil has been laying its eggs in these departments for 28 years now. Each on its own compass directing us toward ever less liberty and ever more tyranny. Multiple cabals have been built within the system all amassing more power withing their venue. It is not necessary that any one person control all the cabals they all work to the same end. Elimination of freedom, a controlled and submissive populace to allow our betters to control us and use us.
Sunlight is slowly beaming into the corridors of power and the hatch-lings like fresh cockroaches are hiding from the sun. Do not hate the daylight. Do not curse the light bringers. Do your job instead help with the search give evil no place to hide.
This is going to take years not just 4 and not just 8. It is going to take the rest of our lives stomping on corruption at every level and teaching our brothers and sisters and children how to protect from the next hatching.
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You are correct. Both in your assessment of the past and the future. However, it is imperative that we start the process NOW, and use this opportunity to Make examples out of some very high ranking officials.
The past is the past. That’s yesterday.
The future is tomorrow. But NOW is NOW, Today, and we need a starting point NOW.
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We simply disagree about the now. I in my world it has already started. Blood is being drawn. Rats are leaving the ship. Resignations seem to happen every day
I wish I could see how many 401Ks are being drained By Government workers to prepare for the storm. How many are making plans for wives and kids to spend some extended time away.
I can feel in my bones their fear a thousand, drunk with what they thought was power snowflakes, all realizing they were being played. They will be angry and they will lash out at the folks that used them.
Indictments will come grand Juries will be seated but not until the little guys spill their guts hoping that their indiscretion lets them keep their job or at least out of jail.
Jail is hard on snowflakes. Their are some really misunderstood angry violent people there. BLM printed on a rainbow T-shirt will not impress them.
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Exactly nothing is being investigated by anybody about 24 years of new world order stoopidness.
But that’s what should be getting hunted down and exterminated.
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Here’s an argument that’s sure to get interesting:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/16/trump-lawyer-mueller-improperly-obtained-transition-documents-in-russia-probe.html
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I have to apologize, Sundance. Rosenstein is a white hat and I trust your information. I didn’t think he was but thank God that he is and thank you for clarifying that.
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A problem we have is that we have very few media outlets that will report all of this and not spin it. Not sure any of the people who voted for illiry will ever believe it. I have noticed people ragging on Rush for talking about this but not giving credit to Sundance. I don’t think he totally buys into all it the mueller is leveraging part and a white hat is hard to grasp for a lot of us. The time line and connect the dots job that Sundance has done is compelling. Rush has a huge audience and they are needed. I wish this story was picked up everywhere and at least discussed. That is what we need and we don’t have it and that isn’t going to change.
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Lets sum up the malfeasance.
The very appointment of Muller was a swindle, and, strictly speaking, it was an illegal swindle at that.
The statute under which Mulkler was appointed is quite clear:
A special council can be appointed only when there is some actual crime and/or evidence of a crime that is alleged.
And that was not the case with the Muller appointment, period.
There was never any evidence of a crime or even allegation of a specific crime other than some nebulous inference of “criminality” between the Trump campaign and the Russkies by political hacks and given substance by Deep State operatives at the hopelessly politicized Justice Dept, FBI and perhaps one or more of the “Intelligence” agencies. It was always a pure fabrication based on a fabricated “dossier” paid for by the Hildabeaste campaign and then carefully engineered into pretend legitimacy by democRAT holdovers in the Justice dept and the FBI. It is ONLY through the actions of those Obamesiah holdovers in the Justice Dept and the FBI that the fabricated “evidence” was given a green light to be used as a point of origin to let loose the unlimited power of a special prosecutor on the incoming Trump administration.
And to add even more sleaze to the whole arrangement, Muller, a democRAT operative deeply involved in the Uranium One scandal, was appointed by his best friend, also an Obamesiah holdover, Rod Rosenstein, who was made acting director of the Justice dept. because of allegations made by yet ANOTHER deomcRAT piece of filth sitting in Congress. These kinds of things just do not happen in a healthy republic. They do happen with amazing regularity, however, in states based on criminality, like libcultism.
We’re gonna need some new hip waders to get any further through this muck of corruption and political sleaze.
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…actual evidence… Andrew McCabe, the current Deputy Director of the FBI, sent email saying that it would be a small team at headquarters that would give special treatment to the Hillary investigation.
Can you hear the BOOMS?! Merry Christmas to you, too, Sundance 🙂
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Music to my ears Sundance – thank you. Eagerly awaiting more news and enjoying the popcorn! 😀
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“Where are we going?”
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One of the next steps, in the near future, should be to start using specific words like “Subversion”, “Sedition” and “Treason”.
If the whole point of the ‘small, digestible portions’ is to prepare the so-called ‘delicate’ electorate (never mind that our culture is more coarsened than at any time in modern history), then it’s time to start preparing the snowflakes and hyperventilators with the kinds of charges to be brought against their evil idols and leaders.
It is time to define the terms, so the delicate electorate (delictorate?) can see and understand the proper words for the great evil their idols and objects of religious devotion have actually done.
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“white hat”…
stopped reading there. There is no such thing as a white hat or black hat in the political world. They’re all compromised and interlinked, self interested and venal. The best of them are a bad breed.
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“stopped reading there. There is no such thing as a white hat or black hat in the political world. ”
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Well, there are definitely ‘black hats’.
Good and evil are words with actual meanings, and there is no shortage of people in government committing evil deeds.
What is much harder to see is people in government committing good deeds.
I do think that the longer someone is in government, the more they are exposed to the power associated with corruption, and the temptations therein, the more likely someone is to become a ‘black hat’.
Which is reason number 9,478,677 why ‘serving’ in government should NEVER be a lifetime occupation or objective.
Government is a necessary evil. Nobody should want to be part of a necessary evil their entire career.
If they do, then something’s wrong with that person.
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There are moments where I think it’s best to let this play out. But there are other ways to look at this that would be advisable: We are witnessing an attempted coup, and the enemy only wants to advance to a position that sets up the kill shot. We take the high road, we think rationally, we explain things away, we say things are b.s. and unfair. The opposition doesn’t care about any of it. It actually is to their tactical advantage that we are preoccupied with all the chaff and chatter. All the time they advance. Focused on one thing – being in position to take down DJT. Mueller getting the transition e-mails is another advance by the enemy. 1 step at a time, waiting for the right shot. In plain sight, while we entertain each other with our prowess.
I’m sure POTUS has this, but it it feels like time is running out.
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There is NO doubt in my mind that Trump has telegraphed his intentions of going after the biggest fish in the swamp by surrounding himself with the best the military has to offer, and his undying support of the military, in general, and law enforcement. Things could get very ugly.
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