Many people are understandably tentative about the Department of Justice Office of Inspector General Michael Horowitz. How can this IG, or any IG, really be trusted to root out the rot that lies at the heart of the DC corruption?
Can we trust the IG to target the politicization of the FBI and DOJ, and do so with the righteous indignation necessary to tear out the corruptocrats? After all, what would motivate Inspector General Horowitz to participate in such a righteous endeavor?
How quickly some have forgotten: DATELINE July, 2015:
WASHINGTON DC – The Obama administration formally announced that inspectors general will have to get permission from their agency heads to gain access to grand jury, wiretap and fair credit information — an action that severely limits the watchdogs’ oversight capabilities, independence and power to uncover fraud.
An opinion, issued by the Department of Justice’s Office of Legal Counsel, says the Inspector General Act of 1978 — which was written by Congress to create the government watchdogs in order to help maintain integrity within their agencies — does not have the authority to override nondisclosure provisions in other laws, most notably in regard to grand jury, wiretap or fair credit information.
“In reaching these conclusions, our Office’s role has not been to decide what access [inspectors general] should receive as a matter of policy. Rather, we have endeavored to determine as a matter of law, using established tools of statutory construction, how best to reconcile the strong privacy protections … with the interest in access reflected in … the IG Act,” states the legal counsel’s opinion, which was dated Monday and released Thursday.
“I strongly disagree with the OLC opinion,” Michael Horowitz, the Justice Department’s inspector general, said in a statement. “Congress meant what it said when it authorized Inspectors General to independently access ‘all’ documents necessary to conduct effective oversight. Without such access, our Office’s ability to conduct its work will be significantly impaired, and it will be more difficult for us to detect and deter waste, fraud, and abuse, and to protect taxpayer dollars.” (read more)
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I think Sundance is dolling out info in digestible bites as well. 🙂
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This tells me he is not stepping on any grand jury toes. Do I read that right? So, if he is not stepping on grand jury toes what does that indicate? Just asking. I don’t understand.
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It is obvious that some biased attorney in the DOJ has made up their own interpretation of what congress passed. Sounds like liberal activist judges. The “opinion” that this Office of legal opinion, is just that an opinion. Sessions should have a new opinion released ASAP which negates thsi Obama shill’s opinion. Opinions of the DOJ are not laws. They are merely opinions.
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Thanks 4sure, this helps a bit
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I think we’re just being reminded that Horowitz was impeded in doing his duty by the Obama administration. He fought back, and under Trump those same restrictions won’t be a “thing” any more. If you read Horowitz’s 2015 statement, it’ll help…especially the Challenges part of it (Caveat, this is my interpretation of SD’s post)
http://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/IG-Horowitz-CIGIE-Chair-Statement-2-3.pdf
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But as of today, right now, Horowitz is still being impeded by Obama rules, no?
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No. If he asks Sessions or Wray for the information he needs for his case(s), they’re going to provide it. It was Holder who was stonewalling on Fast and Furious (may he rot in…..)
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Thanks shad
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Any time, my blog friend 🙂
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This wasn’t an opinion, in my mind. This was an In-your-face threat to any IG, maybe solely this one, not to go snooping around any wire-tapping initiative or FISA request. Goodness knows what the repercussions would have been if Horowitz had started his investigation then?
The DOJ had just been denied the original warrant, and maybe the judge advised them on what items they needed to make their next campaign successful. This was probably just one item on the To Do List.
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This means IG Horowitz has been unleashed and there is absolutely nothing Barry from Kenya 🇰🇪, Holder or Lynch can do to stop the Hammer from falling!
From the article linked above:
Mr. Horowitz has had to seek former Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr.’s permission, and now Loretta E. Lynch’s, to gain access to such material. The approval process in obtaining the materials delayed review of Operation Fast and Furious — the failed Mexican drug cartel sting that lost track of more than 1,000 government-issued guns, one of which later was used to kill a U.S. Border Patrol agent — and has delayed other reports the inspector general is set to publish.
As the chairman of the inspectors general council, Mr. Horowitz has been pressing for resolution from either Congress or the OLC in clarifying his and other IGs’ authority in gaining access to agency records — repeatedly saying agencies have proactively tried to stonewall certain investigations by questioning the IG’s power.
In congressional testimony in February, Mr. Horowitz complained the FBI had failed to turn over key records in several whistleblower cases by the deadlines, saying that other laws involving national security and privacy took precedence over his investigation.
Enjoy the show and have plenty of popcorn 🍿 available!
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K but still do not understand. Has he been unleashed? Since when, and who unleashed him? Sessions? Wrey? I do not know much about the weight of an IG internal investigation and how it can be applied externally and by whom, in what manner. Is it admissible evidence in a court of law? Call me confused about it.
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IG reports are presented to Congress, and to the agency(ies) involved. b. Criminal and Civil referrals are addressed to the Department of Justice, U.S. Attorney offices, or State or local prosecutors. These referrals are for criminal prosecution or civil litigation.
I stole the second bit from the GSA IG webpage, as it was the first to come up. But the AG can act on IG findings.
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Thanks a lot. So, he can actually use his findings to make a referral of evidence that is admissible.Then the DOJ can take them and run with them? That could counter grand jury findings or parallel construction evidence that is being used improperly?? Do I have that right? His findings could show Brady Violations of the First magnitude? That would bring the judicial branch in to the ball game?
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Exactly! At least for the first two sentences and the last one. I’m not sure about what you mean by parallel construction and etc. We need a legal person to explain that 🙂
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I’m legal because my parents were married when I was conceived; but that’s probably not what you meant when you asked for a “legal person”
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Grand jury could see the IG report if the prosecutor presents it to them. Brady doesn’t come into play until the prosecutor decides to prosecute based on the grand jury. Even for a plea deal the Brady apllies. But in a grand jury the prosecutor just shows evidence to prosecute. The prosecutor is supposed to be ethically bound to seeking justice. Parallel construction is done when mueller obtained information improperly or thru spy agencies and can’t use them in court. So knowing the information they get the same info thru legitimate process like subpoena. Notice a PTrump sc mission never cited any crime. You are supposed to have probable cause to get a warrant. Mueller know fruit of the poison tree. He won’t use anything he obtained that way. Instead he does a parallel construction. Then it’s not considered to be the poisoned fruit.
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Thank you! It’s awesome there are so many knowledgeable people around here!
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IG investigations when done proper reveal wrong doing that can then be further investigated for criminal charges on the law enforcement end and brought to public attention via Congressional investigation on the Political end.
It would seem that thanks to President Trump the proper systems of checks and balances is being restored to the Bureaucracy.
As to who unleashed the IG that would be the President, Attorney General, and DoJ office of Legal Policy.
Also yes if the IG finds evidence of criminal wrong doing it is admissible in court.
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His findings are evidentiary. They are not equivalent to indictments. They are solid pieces to use to get indictments. His reports go up to the top of the agency or department or bureau and to Congress. Only the DOJ can turn them into indictments.
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Today Mueller was caught using illegally obtained transition team emails handed to him by deep state officials at the GSA. Mueller is done folks his goose is cooked just in time for Christmas dinner
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I know–step away from the computer a few minutes even on Saturday and BAM another bombshell explodes. Who gave him these emails? How could they do that and nobody know? What’s your take on it, SUNDANCE–I look forward to your analysis.
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Getting cellphones, laptops, and thousands of emails, belonging to Trump transition team, by writing a letter to GSA………., no subpoena, thus Trump legal team not notified.
Wow, that’s about as dirty as it gets.
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Another leak, to catch some more leakers?
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I don’t think this is a fake leak. There was a big shakeup in gsa leadership.
https://www.fedscoop.com/rob-cook-leave-gsa-tts-leadership-shakeup/
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Parallell construction. Muelley is the grand master. So, how does this comport with him being a ‘good guy’? Dunno. Chaos.
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Wow! You got a picture of Mueller with a burner shoe! Great work! 🙂
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So, Muelley ain’t a white hat?
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He isn’t in my current thinking!
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lol
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Looks like Mueller’s gang didn’t find anything in the transition data else they would have subpoenaed it for parallel construction. It looks like Mueller’s gang didn’t even subpoena it to cover their tracks and protect themselves from being accused improperly obtaining info. That how Weissman-Mueller usually get caught red handed in other cases.
Gsa leadership shakeup to boot
https://www.fedscoop.com/rob-cook-leave-gsa-tts-leadership-shakeup/
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They may have been told that they had to use secured government server that they could not set up in the bath house at Trump towers for transition correspondence. Which would make it in the hands of the GSA and it would be open for inspection, just as Hill’s info was supposed to be. For it to be in the hands of the GSA, it had to be going through some government owned device. I don’t know legally how it could be in GSA hands otherwise.
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Whoop a Doo! Really? Caught at Parallel Construction?
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Especially the ‘Death Warmed Over’ Claws outfit on Barry.
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Indeed. I lie to myself thinking I am keeping up on the situation(s) at hand.
But I’m really just another neophyte.
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What amazes and shocks me….
is that people STILL admire “O” and look upon him as some sort of ‘god” who did no wrong.
It’s simply mind-boggling that some many people overlook injustice and deny reality. Amazing.
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He was such a a a a uh uh uh great orator.
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Don’t forget the whistling ‘s’…He wasssssss sssssssuch a a a a uh uh uh great orator. 🙂
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If…if….if…
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I, I, I… My, my, my… Uhh ah ah… CORPSE-men, 57 states, acted inappropriately… an almost endless list, really…
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He may be the stupidest politician ever. Look what is getting ready to happen. He actually thought he could overthrow our duly elected President.
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Not stupid, just numbed by arrogance and feelings of invincibility. He had a point. Look what he was able to do during 8 years without a raised eyebrow from the media and in the face of total republican ineptitude and cowardice.
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Well he did weaponize the govt.
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And everything else he touched, he ruined. So much failure. Historians will have nothing positive say other than first black president.
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Obama was half white ans a true mix on the other half. In my opinion he was more White than anything else. So why call him a Black President why not a White President?
Mulatto doesn’t as that is half White and half Black. Obama himself said he was a mutt. So I suggest we call obama our first fake mutt President.
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“And everything else he touched, he ruined. So much failure.”
To me, I always KNEW that in his view, he was succeeding. He wanted the job to push this country over the cliff. He set it up for the next POTUS to give the last heave-ho, over we go. Damn near did it, too. Fortunately, enough patriots knew it and showed up to vote to reverse the Obama “success.”
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Agree. Not stupid. He did more harm to the republic in 8 yrs. than all those combined who came before. If one sets out to fundamentally transform the republic, I’d say he was damn good at it.
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Yes, but once the curtain is ripped back, he’s nothing but the scum loser he looks like in the above photo.Real low life, in spite of the trimmings and hangers-on. He looks dirty – and I just don’t mean morally. And fwiw..I can’t for the life of me understand why he’s never had that hideous mole to the side of his nose removed.
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I will forever maintain BO was an empty suit whose direct handler was Valerie Jarrett. Who SHE reported to, I don’t know, but no one good that’s for sure.
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Two words (names): George Soros. Same as Hill-the-BEAST and Merkel… and probably Draghi, Schultz, Junker, Gabriel, May (!), Macaroon, and sock-boy Trudeau…
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Or as we are seeing more clearly now, with the aid of republicans. Not all, by any means, but the majority of Republicans went along willingly. They certainly weren’t united in opposing him like they are in opposing Trump.
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But but but but…wait wait wait wait…hold on. hold. hold on.
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Okey Dokie
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And lead from the behind…
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Mark, Once you realize and except that liberalism is a mental disorder which allows them to be democrat SCUM, then you will not be amazed or shocked ever again. You will just expect it.
Just take a look at Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi and it’s quite evident that they are stuck on stupid.
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I agree, William. It’s actually hard to sit here and watch these people swallow this false reality without questioning it. But like you said, only a mental disorder would allow someone to be like that.
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Interestingly enough Mark, they say the exact same things about us.
Looking at the twits twits, they say we are deluded, making up conspiracy theories, Russia blah, blah.
Lest we forget, God did say He would send a great delusion.
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Quos Deus vult perdere prius dementat
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Qui
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Yes, it used to continually bug me, because no one could be that stupid. Once I realized it was equal parts stupidity, lack of integrity, and mental illness, I quit pondering their acts.
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As the famous saying goes:”You can’t argue with stupid.”
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So true,
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Myself, I ask them a simple question, makes them hot enough to pop popcorn:
Were you born that way, or are you intentionally ignorant?
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Remember that old Band-Aids commercial “I am stuck on Band-Aids, ‘cos Baind-Aid’s stuck on me”…
In Chuck-a-lug’s case, it’s “I am stuck on stupid, ‘cos stupid’s stuck on me”…..
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I remember hearing Buck Sexton (ex-CIA) filling in for Rush, saying the upper echelon at the CIA were so pleased to have a “genius” like Obama to be their president … seriously
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Hubris causes blindness
Humility enables a persons ablity to see the truth.
Lotta hubris in DC and the intellectual class.
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If someone can provide an ACTUAL and REAL I.Q. test that was taken by ‘O” showing that he was a genius, then I’ll believe it. Otherwise, based on his performance during his 8 year tenure, I’d say he was an idiot and only smart at causing division.
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Agree, Obola was and still is the Divider in Chief.
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Exactamundo! If O were the genius he and his sycophants claim, why the blockade on his academic records? Nothing to hide if he were.
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You just identified an excellent reason for disbanding the CIA. They are a waste of taxpayer dollars, if that is an example of their “intelligence”.
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Sociopaths appreciate one another.
To be an action officer in clandestine operations you have to grade high on sociopathic values. It’s the nature of covert action.
Obama was a born and bred sociopath.
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It’s not Obama they admire, it’s the false construct Obama which was presented by the media.
Just like 90% of the TDS nonsense out there is not because of the actual Trump, but the false narrative Trump presented to the masses by the media.
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This is the truth. He was a construct.
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Great point and Very true!
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Kind of bothers me that the leaders of our intelligence services are buying the false construct the media creates.
Makes you think they construct their dossier’s on Putin by reading Pravda.
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That’s what the media wants you to believe. Many of my leftists friends voted for President Trump because when you threaten to fundamentally transform a country and attack people of faith you scare the hell out of them.
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Well, thank God they opened their eyes. Good to hear, but you need to meet my sister who suffers from serious TDS. It doesn’t take much to launch her into orbit either.
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Admit it Mark, you do it for fun, don’t you?
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LOL!!! How could you tell? 🙂
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I can’t figure out what’s wrong with them or how to help fix them. I have a friend of many years who hung up on me “I don’t know you any more” when I said I was voting for Trump. Really? I cannot even imagine treating someone that way, and believe me it’s not like my candidates have never lost before….is that how you judge someone….not based on what you actually know about them, but solely on which lever they pulled? It’s like they’ve become demon-possessed. I am just glad I don’t live in their world. It must be miserable.
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I hear ya.
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Barrack Hussein Obama was silly putty in the hands of deep state. He could be shaped and colored to suit any mold or political template as needed to manipulate the electorate.
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I would add that he was a WILLING candidate to be manipulated because he knew he would be protected.
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Obama, Jarret, Lynch, Holder, Rhodes, and Rice….the DC chapter of the Crips
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That’s because Leftists believe that the ends jusify the means. They believe their cause is just and don’t care how they get to their goal as long as they get there, no matter the carnage they leave in their wake.
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Yes, sadly that is what I see in so many people. What a warning to our society when it so easily and willingly discards any order or rule of law just to advance an agenda, especially when they don’t even understand their agenda and it’s end result.
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Exactly right, Mark. And just for clarification, I feel that it’s mainly only the rank and file “foot soldiers” who believe their cause is just. Most of the “elites” only care about the money, power and control they can obtain.
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Yes, that’s correct: the “foot soldiers”.
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Just like the way muzzies use taqqiya.
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OIG is like an internal affairs investigator who “minds the store” others may be trying to rob blind.
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How can he penetrate grand juries? I be really confused. Can a grand jury be formed in an unconstitutional process? If so is its work product tainted? Plus Ultra.
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I took a deep dive into Big Mike’s 6 year war against the obama admin. Will be putting out my findings later tonight.
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I read all of your twitter posts. Good information. Thank you.
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Did you catch him being the last caller on with Jay Sekulow yesterday. He was on the money with his comments.
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T.Soldier. Thank you, and we are looking forward to it.
Cheers.
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Go Dave! Popcorn deployed!
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Payback is a dish best served cold.
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It will be interesting to see what is the OIG report on the Uranium One acquisition by Rosatom.
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KaChing….Rosatam!
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Is that part of the IG investigation?
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I highly doubt the IG for the DOJ has any ability to investigate U1.
Dont forget, the 20% of US Uranium, was not actually US uranium, although it makes good talking points.
Uranium One is a Canadian company, and they owned those assets, including the land and the Uranium. This was simply a regulatory approval to approve to sale to Rosatom…but it appears the Clinton cabal extorted large payouts to actually approve the Corporate sale.
Its similar to tye DOJ blocking the Time Warner sale unless they dump CNN. Telecom is considered a straregic asset by most governments and sales are monitored and regulated accordingly.
Clinton demanded money…Sessions is demanding the sale of CNN….
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Now why did Jason Chaffetz really leave?
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I’m so confused🤔
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Me too. Nothing adds up one way or the other.
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Or maybe it does and you just can’t add. Three posts about your confusion on one page. Makes people wonder.
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So splain it all to me if you know. Or pipe down.
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Believe nothing of what you hear and only half of what you see.
I do not, ever, consider myself responsible to make things make sense.
You can’t negotiate with liars, and there are still lots of liars involved in this process.
Stop taking responsibility for having it add up. Just watch. And wait.
The outcome is not dependent on me figuring it out and knowing that lowers the stress. And leaves me free of the need to call anybody names or offer to shoot people dead, as some are offering in the threads these days. I’m not in charge of the outcomes.
Knowing that law-oriented people are now asserting rightful authority is a great blessing, as is knowing that I’m not in charge and don’t have to figure it all out. I’m like the IG in the obama reign: don’t have access to the stuff that would help me figure it out.
Believe nothing of what you hear and only half of what you see. And watch. And wait.
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Occupying the same branch with you on this, Sharon.
I do get where Howie and others are coming from; it’s satisfying, and infinitely more fun, when I understand what’s happening, when I am able to follow Sundance 100%. However, I’ve learned to be patient when my mind goes *tilt* because at some point more pieces will come together to explain the whole. …And this ugly quagmire of corruption and conspiracy of ruination is all linked and eventually makes sense, even the elements that appear unrelated at first glance. Too big to get it all at once, but oh, when it clicks, it CLICKS. What a time to be alive, and what a time to be blessed by TCTH.
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Maybe he got a sense of how bad things were with dirty Congressmen and fled, but to me he was another talking head who sometimes used big words (like gymnasium) but I see him as just another media whore now. Something tells me after this whole mess is over he’ll run for office again.
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He’s like Mike Roger, ex-Congressman. Went from the FBI inside man to CNN, Chaffetz went to Fox. Why? To present “cover” for the IC culprits.
Who does he want fired? Sessions. Ha!
Accuses Jeff of not being up to the job of AG. Really? The whole house of cards is going face up and Jeff hasn’t even made his move. Every day the conspiracy (for two full weeks) has been unpeeling, day by day.
Jason wasn’t up to the job of being a nobody in Congress.
Now he’s on Murdoch’s payroll like a hand puppet.
Learn who are the puppets of the powerful.
Judge Nappy is a primary gaslighter.
General Keane, another one. There is no war this guy doesn’t love and want more of.
Geraldo, carrying the Dreamers’ and Illegals’ water.
Every cable news outlet has their “talking heads” for the establishment.
It’s all snow job, spin, mind massage, psyops, propaganda.
The most obvious blowhard is Seb Gorka. Basso profundo of bullsh*t.
They carry water for Trillions, the permanent corruption of more waste, lies and criminal government policies wrapped in the flag.
This is why when Tucker Carlson or Tammy Bruce speak it makes so much sense. They don’t represent the Establishment. They think like we do and articulate or analyze with clarity based on traditional, simple common values.
What first struck us true about DJT?
He thought and spoke exactly like any middle class American who cared about community, family, church, business and the nation.
He knew the government was the problem. It no longer was American. It did not represent the People. The Republic was being sold off. Sovereignty was one more president from being bartered to the globalists. It almost happened.
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How about this latest BS with Mueller obtaining privilged transition emails? How so will that info be leaked.
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/16/trump-lawyer-mueller-improperly-obtained-transition-documents-in-russia-probe.html
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He is the master of parallel construction.
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Hmm. I’m thinking Mueller will be using “look squirrel” leaks from the emails to try to get ahead of any IG information that is coming out. IMO Mueller is protecting himself. As long as his investigation continues he is protected. Once his investigation is over then it’s U1 and he’s up to his eyeballs in that. I think Mueller realizes that if he doesn’t take down PDJT no one will, and he is still highly invested in making that happen. Everyone on his “team” is highly invested in taking down PDJT. They know they’ve committed treason and they’re going to keep fighting this to the bitter end. Crooked knew all about this. It’s the reason for her “if he’s elected we’ll all hang” outburst.
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Yes, he will leak dumb but loaded comments from the transition emails to sustain promise and illusion of criminality. You are right in every other respect.
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That would be risky for mueller gang now that a formal complaint has been filed. That’s probably in part why the complaint was filed and in the press so quickly.
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Yes, and although he’d love to take Trump down, he doesn’t need to. He has two other options.
1) weaken Trump in the public opinion arena with constant drip drip drip leaks of potential criminality, and get him defeated in 2020.
2)Trump gets re-elected in spite of that, but just keep up the same techniques for another 4 years to minimize his power and make it politically difficult for Trump to do anything with the DOJ/FBI mess. Then if Trump is replaced with a more typical uniparty type (dem or repub, doesn’t matter), it’s smooth sailing.
I don’t think he will prevail with either of those, but I’d be surprised if he doesn’t try.
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IIRC President Trump–now and in his private life–never uses emails.
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The DOJ was holder’s baby. He set this up to be a legacy piece in the obongo fundamentally tranforming (or shall we say blatantly stealing) America project. Hence his tweets trying desparately to rally the troops he put in place. They are his firewall. As long as they were the ones running the investigations, what could go wrong? They forgot the IG. This is Trump stuff at his best. I’ve been stumped for a long time by the Sessions DOJ. But Horowitz is starting to draw blood. Will Mueller have enough leverage to keep his buddies out of prison? I seriously doubt that. And I seriously hope not. Holder is the guy I most want to see go down. All of them really, but him especially. Do you feel MY people yet, Eric?
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The IG gives PTrump administration political cover and independent, and credulity. Horowitz was under Obama. It will be harder for the left to scream political bias, unfair, or whatever they scream about will have no credibility.
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The left is screaming already and have no credibility.
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He foresaw all of this?
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Are you asking if Trump saw all this coming, Howie? I don’t know. But I’ll bet he knew Horowitz was on the up, and that he was investigating the hell out of this stuff
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They’ve been screaming impeachment from day one. Comey tipped his hand when he had a meeting all by himself with PTrump. Trump then counter punch with a meeting alone with Comey. PTrump might not know the details of their battle plan but he knew it. When PTrump gave a speech in front of the cia memorial he referred to building a building with no columns. In the intelligence world the 5th column refers to the deep state. That was essentially saying to the cia- bring it on.
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I agree with you about Holder.
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Zero – The Man Who Would Be King.
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The King Who Would Be Zero, Man.
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I like how you did that phc!
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The boy who was a queen
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It’s not easy when your wife’s is bigger.
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The linked 2015 article “Obama administration restricts investigative powers of inspectors general ” does not provide any update indicating whether President Trump rescinded the restrictive
It isn’t clear to me, just how such a restriction would be enforced (or not enforced) and by whom. .
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That’s what I was wondering too — did President Trump rescind O’s restriction?
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Has the Trump Administration reversed the Obama Administration OLC opinion?
Or has Inspector General Michael Horowitz instead just chosen to ignore it?
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Or maybe he asked and they said yes.
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Sundance DOES know how to bait the hook, doncha know.
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he sure does. This one is over my head.
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Next you’ll be shouting “look squirrel”, Howie. 😉
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LOL
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It’s not over your head. You’re a smart guy and just missing some key info. Scroll back up to the top 🙂
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Over my head, too.
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I thought it was just me, but I like the company I am in.
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🤣
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I think you’re just playing dumb this time.
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Nope, I am in the dark.
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Congress passed the OIG law in what “78”. Congress never recinded that law. They chose to ignore it, just like they choose to ignore the Constitution. The OIG is just operating under the color of the law.
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The decision was left to the AG and AAG.
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Think back to the beginning of the campaign.
President Trump said that his would be a Law and Order Administration.
That is the permission right there.
Once he was elected, that was put into practice.
The OIG is no longer restricted.
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IG Horowitz used the term ‘waste, fraud and abuse’
The same term candidate Trump used again and again during the campaign
Intriguing
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Who can forget something they were never aware of?
It’s almost as if the MSM deliberately downplayed the signifocance of Obama making mandated oversight impossible.
If Trump did the exact same thing, the media would go ballistic with headlines comparing him to Hitler for the thousandth time.
Just another underreported dictatoresque abuse of power from “The scandal-free presidency”.
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He wouldn’t even let an IG near HRC the stench of corruption was so strong.
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He turned Hillary’s criminal failures into public relations success stories.
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He wouldn’t even let an IG near HRC the stench was so strong.
Fixed it for ya 🙂
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Yes, the odor of cabbage according to Podesta’s emails.
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Anticipated Trump tweets:
Tweet 1:
Yes, I admit I’m evaluating whether to block the Inspector General in every Department of the Federal Government from investigating wiretap, grand jury and fair credit information.
Tweet 2:
Advisors have emphasized that privacy overrides investigators’ right to transparency, unless each request is pre-approved by the presiding member of my Cabinet over the Department in question.
Just how might this play out?
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Sundance. You are fantastic. . This site is awesome.
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So what is/was the deep state end game?
Let’s say they somehow remove Donald Trump?
What then?
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They thought that since Hildabeyotch won the popular vote she would be installed as Pres.
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They still do….
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They don’t plan past one move. They don’t see past one move. What makes you think they have a plan?
I’ve been trying to figure out the long game from these weird people for a while now, and have concluded they don’t have one. If you have an idea, I’d be glad to hear it. It’s stumped me since mass immigration started. Who benefits long term? My answer is nobody does, even for all these stupid elites who initiated it.
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There will be blood running in the streets…
Are you ready?
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99 percent chance of a uniparty (repub or dem doesn’t matter) replacing him and the good times can roll again for them.
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“So what is/was the deep state end game?
Let’s say they somehow remove Donald Trump?
What then?”
Then they will have to deal with 50 or 60 million armed and angry citizens.
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Stated above,….Without such access, our Office’s ability to conduct its work will be significantly impaired, and it will be more difficult for us to detect and deter waste, fraud, and abuse, and to protect taxpayer dollars.” Obama just didn’t like to have the waste and fraud pointed out, especially those organizations that were spending up the money. He fired IG Gerald Walpin, CNCS for pointing out fraud and spending on AmeriCare in 2009. It seems to me firing Walpin just opened the flood gates and gave the ok, to waste, fraud, and spending. Keeping in mind all of the missing money from various departments of the government.
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But if the obama restrictions on gathering information are still in effect and the exact same personnel are at DOJ/FBI obstructing, witholding and not complying with FOIA requests and congressional requests, why are we to think somehow they are forthcoming with the IG. I don’t get it.
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Me either, but I like it.
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Holder does not work there any more. Nor does Comey.
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Could be some of those rules and regulations that AG sessions is letting up on, enabling those in charge to do their jobs unrestrained.
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Remember, Obama fired an IG for digging into corruption at AmeriCorp.
IG Walpin was fired in June 2009 for his investigation of the misuse of money in AmeriCorps, the service organization that was part of the Corporation for National and Community Service, where Walpin served as inspector general. The investigation focused on Kevin Johnson, the former NBA star who became mayor of Sacramento, Calif., and was a prominent Obama supporter.
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Firing an IG!!!
But…but isn’t that OBSTRUCTION??
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Not when BO did it. Then it was just the perfect action to take.
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And don’t forget the finding by the GSA IG that found the WH was Impeding investigation of Hillary’s emails.
chickens coming home to roost?
http://www.weeklystandard.com/inspector-general-white-house-impeded-email-investigation-punished-government-watchdog/article/2004642
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Horowitz after Trump won the election: “Now i have machine gun.”
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And moron Obummer thought to banning high-capacity magazines would work.
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Why are people worried about emails? President Trump doesn’t use them…if you want to know what’s he’s going to do and why, just think what is in the best interests of the United States of America and you’ll get your answer. There are multiple ways to “yes” and success. President Trump knows them all!
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Yo Ho Ho an a mug of Rum, wit a little egg nog fer fun. This stuff is by my simple mind. It should not be this hard but guess it is.
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So the simplest answer at this time is: They are all dirty…take that premise until it shakes out. Except PDJT.
For sure they are all covering their own asses…
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Iz he loosing The Krakken?
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Can anyone clarity: I thought this OIG investigation was authorized and launched BEFORE Trump took office. How did that happen?
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Dunno.
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The OIG investigation was announced on January 12, 2017. Read the specifics here: https://oig.justice.gov/press/2017/2017-01-12.pdf
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I’ve been asking the same thing and no one has an answer.
I find it difficult to believe Barry approved this investigation, initiated Jan 12, 2017, a week before President Trump was sworn in, unless Barry approved it.
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I got it! Barry is a white hat!
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🤣🤣🤣
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Yes it did. Sundance posted the OIG’s letter announcing they were launching the investigation. It was in January, like Jan. 12 or 17, something like that. In the letter it said it was in response to numerous complaints from the public and from Congress about the DOJ/FBI being very political or something along those lines.
Democrats, including Brian Fallon, cheered long, loudly, and lustily over this investigation because Comey cost Hillary the election and he needed to be probed!
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Yup. The Dems released the Kraken.
I certainly recall, but it seems many don’t, many comments made in late 2016 that the Dems would CHEER if President Trump fired Comey on his first day in office. He was on their doggy-doo list for the re-opening of the e-mails ‘matter’ when they were found on the Weiner laptop. The Dems at that point blamed Comey for the HRC loss.
The IG was the Dems insurance policy in case Comey wasn’t swept out by the incoming Administration, which is not unusual.
They didn’t count on a POd IG who resented his hands being tied by the previous Administration.
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I think you’re right. And it is hard to remember now what the Dims were thinking in Jan. 2016 on Comey because he was bad, good, bad, good….so hard to keep track!!! And remember if he was good or bad at the time. But in January, he was definitely someone whose scalp they wanted.
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They were drinking their own Kool aide and Dems in Congress wanted him to investigate Comeys treatment of Hillary’s emails. After all, that cost her the election. /s
Yes, they really are that stupid.
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Sorry, mimbler. Didn’t see your succinct comment just below mine
We said the same thing. You nailed it in fewer words.
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If the rats start attacking the IG we will know. They always have to kill the messenger. Any indications yet?
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Soon…very soon….
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Yes, the Dims have already begun to attack. Thursday or Friday they woke up and started complaining about the IG looking into private texts of DOJ staff.
Talking points about this and the Republicans using the IG as a tool to hammer the Mueller investigation with. One of the lefties out spewing such wisdom was Diane Feinstein, and a couple of Congress Dim Wits who were part of the group voting to impeach PDJT last week.
I think Sundance did a whole piece on this yesterday? So much has come out so quickly I can’t remember it all clearly.
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I would think that will be rolling out, this coming week.
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What if all the leaks are coming from the IG to begin with and PT knows it?
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Isn’t that what SD eluded to?
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Ooooooooooooooo………
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that is what I am sayin….think all of them are dirty….
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I feel like I am in a house of mirrors!
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The article SD quoted and linked is worth the read. Further excerpts are below. The O admin knew exactly what they were doing when they tied the Inspectors General hands.
My. My. They never thought they’d see the day they’d be untied and investigating them. Stupid is as….
HOROWITZ. UNLEASHED.
The calm before the storm. And, they brought it all on themselves. What a mastermind to date the letter just prior to PDJT’s inauguration.
“Mr. Horowitz has had to seek former Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr.’s permission, and now Loretta E. Lynch’s, to gain access to such material. The approval process in obtaining the materials delayed review of Operation Fast and Furious — the failed Mexican drug cartel sting that lost track of more than 1,000 government-issued guns, one of which later was used to kill a U.S. Border Patrol agent — and has delayed other reports the inspector general is set to publish.”
“The Office of Legal Counsel’s efforts to reduce transparency will leave the Department of Justice vulnerable to mismanagement and misconduct. This is not the type of government the American people deserve,” said Rep. Bob Goodlatte, Virginia Republican and House Judiciary Committee Chairman, in a statement to The Washington Times.”
Merry Christmas Treepers!!
O really should stop smoking. So bad for his health…
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In the spirit of the holidays, I suggest gifting Obama
with a few cartons of smokes. Pell Mell’s would be nice.
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Are there any Camels still around?
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“O really should stop smoking. So bad for his health…”
Especially when the smoke starts coming out of his big jug ears.
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I say we all chip in and buy him a few cartons
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Found this dated Jan 12, 2017 Before Trump took office.
Washington (CNN)The Justice Department’s internal watchdog announced Thursday it has launched a probe into the department and the FBI’s handling of the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s private email server.
The announcement, which was expected, comes after criticism of the Justice Department’s handling of the investigation, particularly on how the public was notified about the controversy, which was a major issue on the 2016 campaign trail.
It will likely mean questions over the role of FBI Director James Comey in the fading days of the election, which Democrats believe helped cost them the presidency, will linger on long into the administration of Donald Trump.
Justice Department Inspector General Michael E. Horowitz said the decision to initiate a review was prompted by requests from numerous members of Congress and public inquiries.…
The White House said Thursday it wasn’t involved in the decision to investigate.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/12/politics/doj-watchdog-launches-probe-into-handling-of-clinton-email-investigation/index.html
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Maybe congress felt confident that Obama wouldn’t strangle this baby in it’s crib, so close to inauguration.
Thanks Congress, for doing your fricken job.
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He wouldn’t strangle the baby, because they had their aces in the hole Priestap, Strzok, Ohrs, Yates, Comey, and others.
Otherwise the baby dies – no biggie to a lib.
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I don’t think congress had anything to do with this decision. Isn’t that the whole point of an independent IG?
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“Justice Department Inspector General Michael E. Horowitz said the decision to initiate a review was prompted by requests from numerous members of Congress and public inquiries.…”
Sounds like Congress can request the IG look at something. Doesn’t mean the IG has to.
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That’s what I meant. Congress doesn’t dictate to the IG.
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That’s how I understand it,
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“The announcement, which was expected,”
There you go. Barry knew of and APPROVED the investigation. Otherwise it would not have begun.
And that is not good for us.
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You’re forgetting how pissed off they were at Comey for “ruining Hillary’s chances” at the time. Yes, they can be exactly that stupid.
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Exactly – Horowitz took the ball and ran in a different direction.
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Kind of. Although he investigated exactly what they asked him to. They just don’t like the answers he came up with 🙂
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from the Washington Times article…
“Justice Department Inspector General Michael E. Horowitz said the decision to initiate a review was prompted by requests from numerous members of Congress and public inquiries.…
The White House said Thursday it wasn’t involved in the decision to investigate.”
RIIIIIIIGHT – and i’ve got a bridge and some swamp land in Florida if anyone’s interested
PLEASE – i want justice for these thug puppets and an open road for MAGA as badly as anyone – and no one loves Donald Trump MORE than I do – but i’m simply not buying this IMO deep state charade…
and i caution those getting wrapped up in predicting astounding, MAGA RESULTS, to let this play out…
Horowitz is obama’s BOY and a globalist/swamp reptile – think it’s possible that anything he says publicly might be swamp lies and propaganda? nah…
the faith displayed in Horowitz here is based solely on his WORD – which is about as good as, i don’t know, rosenstein’s and wray’s regarding the integrity of Mueller’s investigation….
we’re supposed to take their WORD???? lol
horowitz was appointed by obama in 2011 – LOOK at his picture in this tweet with holder and tell me he’s NOT ONE OF THEM – seriously…S N A K E
and when is this report coming out – soon, right? good grief
(not saying he won’t release something down the road, but of course he won’t say when, and it won’t be the indictment of the swamp cartel we’re dreaming of)
just caution, is all
the swamp runs DEEP
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Then why release the Strzok emails when he didn’t have to?
I think you analysis is not real and that your real purpose is to undermine the good news that Sundance continues to post about.
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OMG – how did you figure it out…
you are brilliant ‘O’
btw – are you stalking me?
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Which of you?
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who else am i? LOL
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Congress didn’t do a damn thing without o’s blessing
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Keep your eyes on the prize, guys . Ultimately we want to connect the dots from FBI , DOJ , DHS, and even CIA , NSA and State to the Presidential Daily Briefing to the White House itself . All of the big boys and girls knew that they were operating with the consent of the Pres. – President Obama . At the highest levels of government nobody tries to get away with stuff like this without some kind of direction coming down from the top . It is just too risky to keep the President out of the loop , unless you really do want to fall on your sword for him . It sounds good in theory , until someone realizes that an out-of-power President cannot provide any cover . We already know how mendacious and corrupt this cast of characters has always been . We just need some turncoats and smoking guns for evidence .
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He wouldn’t strangle the baby, because they had their aces in the hole Priestap, Strzok, Ohrs, Yates, Comey, and others.
Otherwise the baby dies – no biggie to a lib.
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Well this showed up in the wrong place.
Sorry guys ……
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Makes as much sense to me as anything else going on.
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LOL Howie!
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Well this showed up in the wrong place.
Sorry guys ……
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AFAIC they are all connected already but nothing is being done cept overinvestigating the clear probable caus already on the table. In plain line of sight view. Why the need of a IG report?
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Exactly.
Nothing happened in Barry’s Administration without ValJar, Lynch, Rice, Rhodes, Clapper, Brennan knowledge and approval.
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If all say “I was just following orders,” it will go up to O-o-o-o-bama.
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Here is a OP Ed post that Michael Horowitz wrote in 2015 that confirms what Sundance says in this post. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/give-inspectors-general-access-to-the-records-they-need-to-do-their-jobs/2015/10/18/54942f30-738a-11e5-9cbb-790369643cf9_story.html?utm_term=.bcfe5d98bfc3 I think he is a good guy but praying he is.
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I can’t understand all this. Did Rosey appoint Muelley as part of a scheme so Muelley could appoint a buncha clintonista prosecutors with a swamper grand jury? Then the IG will swoop in an bust em all red handed? OH well staying tuned. In fact thinking of deep sixing internet and getting a top of the line SSB recirver with the money in the spring. If nothing comes of all this by then.
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My interpretation is that the IG was hamstrung by the previous admin, and hell hath no wrath like an IG scorned.
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Went deer hunting in the Western PA mountains for six weeks with 5 friends. 1 had a hunting cabin. Just a land line for emergencies. Agreed no cell phones, no internet, no TV. Just hunting and poker. An old country bar close by. No cell phones, no internet, no tv. Just pool tables, juke box, dart board, and hunters…
Great time…cleans the spirit….
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Nothing that complicated could ever be executed as planned. D Day was easier.
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Why do you keep playing dumb and start every post with “I’m confused,” or “I don’t understand?” How could you be so thick?
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It’s a stupid game.
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Howie is an acquired taste.
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Let’s no forget that we are dealing with a bunch of slippery lawyers, but on a good note lawyers are known for keeping detailed notes. Watch wiping cloth, bleach, and hammer sales.
Let’s not forget Perkins Coei lawyers the facilitators and bag men for fusion GPS and crowd strike.
http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2017/10/27/clinton-campaigns-law-firm-paid-both-fusion-gps-crowdstrike-lone-sources-russian-hookers-hacking-claims/
And keep a eye on Jennie Rhee, her husband and Pages mother. There had to be a cutout from the FBI and doj to the Clinton campaign, money, and msn.
http://gotnews.com/democrats-robert-mueller-appointed-lynch-trump-buddying-cnn-hacks/
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Enter the ‘Work Product’ defense as utilized in GZ.
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“among them a woman Jeannie Rhee who has so emasculated her husband he took her last name.
To calm the American people and stop a partisan witch hunt, the president may fire Mueller.
So far Mueller has appointed five people to the anti-Trump task force: Michael Dreeben, Jeannie Rhee, Andrew Weissmann, James Quarles and Aaron Zebley—all but Zebley open Democrat boosters.
Jeannie Rhee’s husband Chris Sclafani lacks so much confidence that he actually goes by his wife’s last name, as you can see from his LinkedIn page.
BETA MALE HUSBAND OF TRUMP-RUSSIA INVESTIGATOR JEANNIE RHEE “MR. RHEE” (SOURCE: SCREENSHOT, FACEBOOK)
In the late ‘90s, Rhee’s husband Chris clerked for U.S. Appeals Court Judge Merrick Garland, Obama’s failed pick for the Supreme Court that President Trump’s victory blocked. “Mr. Rhee” in 1999 also served as a special assistant to then Deputy Attorney General, and later Obama Attorney General, Eric Holder.”
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So has the Trump Admin reversed this Obama policy? Was their some order or rule that needed to be undone to allow unfettered accesa to ‘all’ relevant information??
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$64,000 question
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exactly – nothing’s changed
but i’ve read a lot of “assurances” from the perpetrator’s (the FBI etc), kindly accepted by the victims (grassley etc..) ‘though, so i guess everything is cool…
if you ask me, horowitz put on a little swamp show to create the “appearance”
think obama and his swamp masters who had ABSOLUTE carte blanche with no blowback for 8 years, would have put up for 3 seconds with actual insubordination from one of their stooges? OUT THE DOOR, Mike. But what about the public, thug puppet media, and swamp congress outcry?!! oh wait…never mind
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Heads of the agencies now are Trump’s picks. The IG’s can ask them permission for the materials and access it if they agree to it. I bet Trump’s agency heads have opened up the IG access. No need to first change the rules.
A lot has changed and I think you know it.
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So I wonder just who in the DoJ Office of Legal Counsel in 2015 put out this, er, interpretation of the IG Act. Sally Yates, perhaps?
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It may true that Horowitz was appointed by obama BUT Horowitz has been a heel in the obama administration from the git go. Most notable is his reports on Fast and Furious and the obama administration blatent abuse of government surveillance, even after the obama administration tried to obstructed his investigations any chance that they had.
Relax Folks, Horowitz is the right man for this current situation especially considering he has the support of the big boss, President Trump.
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I also read some good things about a Judge named Sullivan (I think that’s his name). I think he is the judge who replaced the FISA compromise judge who was recused a week or so ago.
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WASHINGTON DC – The Obama administration formally announced that inspectors general will have to get permission from their agency heads to gain access to grand jury, wiretap and fair credit information — an action that severely limits the watchdogs’ oversight capabilities, independence and power to uncover fraud………… Substitute the name ” Trump Administration” and the howling from the media would be heard above a siren!……………… But we heard nothing,……… until now………..Thanks SD!
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How do y’all flip threads so fast?! I’m gonna have to read faster 🙂
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Microsoft Sam reading voice.
Reads you to sleep with monotonous droning.
Absorbed into subconscious.
/s
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I got it. Obama is a white hat, cointel agent, set up by the good guys to infiltrate the communists then leave a trail for the good guys to follow to take them all down. That is the only thing that makes sense. OBAMA WAS SENT IN TO DESTROY THE DEMOCRATS AND…… MAGA. Without Obama none of this could happen.
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Why didn’t I think of that?
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They have had their six.
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Oh man Howie,….classic…
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Makes more sense to me than all this 5D underwater, outer space chess.
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i’m getting a cocktail – care to join me?
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There for that
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Ima have a glass of wine on that one! lol.
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And Val Jarrett is Miss MoneyPenny?
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Mary Trueblood
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And Mrs Ohr is Pussy Galore?
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I wasn’t here back in 2015. I didn’t know about this.
But I did know Obama was a DICTATOR. I could never have imagined it would be this bad.
Think back on election night and why Hillary didn’t show up. They were all in deep shock. They knew the repercussions with a Trump administration.
IG Horowitz is an intelligent individual. Prolonging the agony is the best payback.
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This her poignant utterance, if he’s elected we will all hang.
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OK….this is all swamp, DC…and just cannot tell BS from Shineola.. Only one solution…
Fire em all….nuke em all…create your own law agencies..de-classify all documents…
While I was in the USMC…I was known to be able to fix big problems…some things / places were so screwed up…I went in and literally said: Stop, throw everything in the middle of the floor….everything….did it for an entire motorpool…had everything..vehicles..tools…paperwork..all of it…put in the middle of a parking lot…then separated the garbage from the good stuff
Stop it all, fire em all, put it all out there..everything…except things pertaining to “real” national security….we are Americans…show us the money…get rid of em all then start over with a “CLEAN” slate.
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If we do not get this now…they will just continue this forever..we will never know…think about it…If someone said to you …you will lose a trillion dollars unless you wait eight years, would you wait? No shit…
Now they will stretch this out….now is the time…
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The spooks cut their throats when the got involved in our elections. THEY are who ‘interfered’ with the election. Not Russia.
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Think of an IGs office as the police- they gather evidence. If the evidence shows violations of either Agency policies or Federal regulations, the IG presents their findings to the authority able to take disciplinary action. If they find evidence of violations of law, they present their findings to the FBI and DOJ, if it’s a Federal law broken, or to state or local authorities if it’s those laws that are broken. An IG is supposed to be independent from the Agency’s leadership, so he/she can investigate that leadership. Obama made IGs be subject to the leaders, who could deny the IG access to the data. They couldn’t appeal to anyone who cared. Now, President Trump puts in people who know they’d better cooperate. The IGs are independent again, and they’re collecting what they can as fast as they can. Investigations take time, particularly if you’re trying to keep the point of your investigation a secret.
Oh, and IGs have a lot more power to collect data from actively employed Federal employees. If you fire them or they quit, you have to treat them as private citizens again and get warrants. Many here have criticized President Trump for not firing everyone on day one. Well, some people you can fire easily, but others require cause. But in most cases, I think he was advised by the IGs or by people who understand the system, to leave many of them in place while evidence was collected.
This is the Storm. This is the Big Ugly. It’s just getting started. In a year, you’ll be able to look back and see it all clear as day.
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lmao…Hey Howie here is Obama in his white hat you spoke of..
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Don’t tell.
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lol…may lips are sealed…..
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He left the perfect set up for Trump.
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That’s a Panama Hat. Toker Style.
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Bull,,I understand he did a lot of Toke-in
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He was a cute kid. Too bad his mother loved running around the world more than she loved him.
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Trump is either sitting on a royal flush or holding a pair of duces. Won’t know until all the cards are dealt and shown, but I don’t like the way the deck is stacked.
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Or he has a 4 an a 5 in de hole….Banco.
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Trump…Donald Trump.
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My MAN! MAGA!!!
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President Trump had been kind calling it a rigged system. 😠
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Is Horowitz a black or white hat? Interesting take: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QkWnspDjIg
Merry Christmas fellow treepers and especially to you, dear Sundance. Please pray for our safe travel via Delta to Colorado Springs!
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For the man and his son, “the fire” is a metaphor not only for the will to live, but to live nobly. It’s an embrace of human goodness. It’s having hope when all seems hopeless. The good guys carry the fire; the bad guys don’t. In their current situation, moral lapses might be excused and rationalized as the difference between life and death. Father and son could choose, like the barbarians they’re surrounded with, to allow the ends to justify any kind of means.
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