Understanding The Nunes Paradox…

“SCIF”Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility. To understand the larger Devin Nunes briefing issues it is important to focus on the word “compartmented”.

Intelligence information is housed by compartments. Each intelligence unit holds intelligence unique to that compartment. The FBI Counter-Intelligence Unit would hold the intel information specific to their task or assignment. The CIA would hold their own compartmented intel; again, specific to their task and objectives. So too would the NSA or Pentagon.

This compartmented structure is what led to the creation of the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, ODNI. The 911 commission recommended the position to serve as a hub able to ensure intelligence sharing; that is – to ensure intelligence was not intentionally withheld from other compartments when needed.

It is doubtful the 911 commission ever gave thought to what might happen when intelligence is weaponized as a political tool. The DNI is a political appointment, a cabinet member, of the President.

Thoughtful exposition – If the executive branch, the President, wanted to weaponize intelligence as a political tool, he/she would have control over such weaponization as an outcome of their political appointees within the: CIA (Brennan), NSA (Rogers), FBI (Comey), DNI (Clapper), DoD (Ash Carter), etc.

However, understandably the key figure would be the DNI hub – James Clapper.

We will come back to that in a minute.

♦ The balance or civilian (representative) oversight into the compartmented intelligence falls to a very select group known as the Intelligence Gang of Eight.

Four Democrats and Four Republicans (four minority party and four majority party political leaders) for a total of eight. Four from the House and Four from the Senate. –Understand the Gang of Eight Here– The Gang-of-Eight can, if they choose, interact with the intelligence product with the same level of security clearance as the compartment being reviewed.

Only these eight members can interact with the intelligence product in this way. This ensures their ability to conduct oversight.

It is critical to understand the difference between the House Intelligence Committee, the Senate Intelligence Committee and the Gang of Eight. Only two members from the House Intelligence Committee (chair and minority), and two members of the Senate Intelligence Committee (chair and vice-chair) are participants. The other four are Speaker of the House, minority leader of House, Leader of Senate and Minority leader of Senate. The latter four are not part of any other intel committee.

Four months ago, we had a suspicion these events would shake out in this type of fashion; that’s why we wrote:

[…] Never forget this undisclosed motive to advance cover-ups.

It is also never discussed in the media.

My spidey senses are telling me that understanding these facts, and understanding the construct of this oversight, will be an important reference point for all Americans in the very near future.

Here’s the current 2017 Intelligence Oversight Gang of Eight:

Expanding on Compartmented Intelligence. The originating intel agency holds their proprietary intel they create in their SCIF. They may also receive intel products created for them, which they will also host in their unique SCIF. Thus, intel is compartmentalized.

However, the White House -the executive branch- is also a host of intelligence information and consequently the White House has their own SCIF which holds intel products they would create (very little), or intel products created for them (the vast majority). An example of a product created for the executive branch would be the President’s Daily Briefing (PDB).

The PDB as a whole product would only exist in the White House SCIF. Parts of the PDB would be hosted by the originating participant, ex. CIA, NSA, FBI, DoD, State Dept. etc., but only the White House would have the fully assembled product. After all, it’s assembled for the President.

Putting the “Oversight” structure together with the “Compartmented” intelligence security you will note that only a few people ‘could’ access the PDB. The President (Obama), the President’s National Security Advisor (S. Rice), the President’s Director of National Intelligence (Clapper), or any member of the aforementioned oversight gang-of-eight.

Hopefully I haven’t lost anyone yet.

♦ If the House Intelligence Committee, or Senate Intelligence Committee, as a whole – wanted to see the PDB they would have to request the individual components from the individual intelligence agencies because the PDB product was not created for them; it was created for the Office of The President.

Only the Chairman and Minority leader from each Intel committee could go to the White House to see the PDB end product. [Remember, they alone are four of the Gang-of-Eight.]

This is why Devin Nunes, who is a Go8 member, must request the intelligence from each department (NSA, FBI etc.) in order to share it with the committee. Nunes cannot export or import product he did not create.

The Congressional SCIF would then hold the compartmented information after delivery for the committee members to review under very tight controls. The intelligence is removed/deleted after review. No systems are connected.

♦ BRIEFINGS – When the Gang-of-Eight are being briefed, they are being briefed at essentially the same level as the President, albeit they may not have the same exact end product because it is also subject to user “as needed” requests. However, when the larger congressional intelligence committees are being briefed, they are not briefed at the same level because they hold a lower security status.

So what does all this mean?

Our research indicates that Chairman Devin Nunes, a gang of eight member, reviewed intelligence reports (most likely PDB’s) that were assembled exclusively for the office of the President (Obama). That is why he went to the Eisenhower Executive Office Building (EEOB) Information Facility to review.

The intelligence product would be delivered to that SCIF system for his review, most likely by the ODNI.  It would be removed from that SCIF system after his review. No systems are connected.

Nunes stated the intelligence product he reviewed was “not related to Russia, or the FBI Russian counter-intelligence investigation”. So the product itself was likely a product for the President, that was not part of the ongoing FBI counter-intel product.

Again, this is why it seems likely it was part of a PDB – unless it was a separate product, apart from the PDB, which was created for the Office of the President. [I view the latter as highly doubtful because it would be too risky for the President to be asking for specific ‘stand alone’ intel on something Trump.]

♦ Now, HERE IS WHERE YOU NEED TO PUT ON A “Politics only” FILTER.

Couldn’t Adam Schiff (another gang of eight member) go look at the same intelligence as Nunes did?

Yes. However, purely from the standpoint of politics: why would he?

If Representative Schiff saw the same intelligence that substantiates Nunes he couldn’t keep up the fake outrage and false narrative. Right now Schiff can say anything about it he wants because he hasn’t seen it.  If Schiff actually sees the intelligence Nunes saw he loses that ability. He would also lose the ability to criticize, ridicule and/or marginalize Devin Nunes.

The same political perspective applies to Minority leader Nancy Pelosi, Minority leader Chuck Schumer and Senator Mark Warner. For each of them to see the information would eliminate their ability to talk about it, or criticize Nunes. The politics of the situation are more valuable so long as they don’t engage in actual truthful knowledge.

Chairman Nunes cannot share his intelligence finding with the House Committee, because the intelligence product is beyond their intel authority. Nunes has to ask for it in portions as each compartment would permit and authorize; And so long as Pelosi, Schumer, Warner and Schiff refuse to look at the intelligence that ‘only they’ are allowed to see, they can continue to ridicule and take political advantage.

This reality is also the reason why the media is so able to manipulate the narrative around Chairman Nunes; and simultaneously why he’s able to say he’s done nothing wrong.

On November 17th, 2016, NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers went to see President-Elect Donald Trump in Trump Tower, New York.  –SEE HERE–  Director Rogers never told his boss DNI, James Clapper.

On November 18th, 2016, the Trump Transition Team announced they were moving all transition activity to Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster, New Jersey. –SEE HERE– Where they interviewed and discussed the most sensitive positions to fill.  Defense, State, CIA, ODNI.

♦  Earlier this month, President Obama’s former Defense Deputy, Evelyn Farkas, admitted to sharing classified intelligence gathered during an Obama authorized spying operation against the Trump Transition Team –SEE HERE– The reasoning she gave was:

[…] the Trump folks – if they found out HOW we knew what we knew about their, the Trump staff, – that they would try to compromise those sources and methods; meaning we no longer have access to that intelligence. (link)

♦ And now yesterday:

President Trump’s Director of National Intelligence (DNI) is former Indiana Senator Dan Coats.  Who was announced January 5th 2017, but was delayed confirmation by Democrats until March 16th.

 

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651 Responses to Understanding The Nunes Paradox…

  1. All they got is lies and mis direction

    Two Party Evil Money Cult!

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  2. Joan says:

    Roger Daltrey of The Who says a dead dog would have won against Hillary Clinton!

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  3. Liked by 28 people

    • Howie says:

      They are running through the swamp.
      We are HOT on their trail.

      Liked by 19 people

    • tampa2 says:

      Perfect, Bluto!

      Liked by 2 people

    • Mary Kate Conly says:

      Burr apparently stated that Russian Bots released fake news unflattering to Hilary, to certain states during the general election. Not an exact quote.

      The stupid, it burns….

      Liked by 5 people

      • Mary Kate Conly says:

        Correction, not Burr, Warner.

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      • cozette says:

        Russian bots were also released to denigrate Trump and praise Hillary. I think they hit in October. I want the Ukrainian influence on the election tracked. They were a group of virulently anti Putin no Nazi’s who wants the US to go to war with Russia to topple Putin. Hillary was supposed to win, bring them into the WH and initiate war. Trumps win made them shift to treason and impeachment. The nexus here is the Atlantic Council. McCain is connected to them. And Soros. But this whole undermining of our democracy, the sedition, the planted evidence of hacking was spear headed by this group. They are allies of Clinton but it’s their hatred of Putin and desire for war that motivates them. Trumps desire for peace means he must be destroyed. We have to find away to get these neo Nazi war mongers investigated. It will shift the focus off Russia and give Antifa some real fascists to hate.

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      • Athena the Warrior says:

        Yes because regular Americans couldn’t have possibly have watched Hillary say that she was going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business and decided not vote for her.

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    • woohoowee says:

      They look just like “The Joker” from the Aurora, CO shootings. (shudder) What are they taking?

      Liked by 2 people

    • John Galt says:

      I think Fluffy Dog is on the trail.

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    • paper doll says:

      They have seen what they serve and it has scared the shzz out of them. Like rabid dogs, they gotta be stopped

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  4. LULU says:

    Just watched the presser by Senate Intelligence Committee chair Burr and vice-chair Warner. Burr sounds reasonable, albeit wishywashy. Mark Warner has already formed a report in his mind that has the Russians interfering with our election in favor of Donald Trump. Don’t confuse him with the facts!!!

    Burr cited their successful hearing on Benghazi. Refresh my memory. What came out of that??

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  5. Mike says:

    Has the Senate begun their very own “Muh Russians” investigation?

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  6. fred5678 says:

    Burr: Does THIS sound like the bio of a smart, winning, leader??

    Wiki:
    “…earned a B.A. in Communications[3] from Wake Forest University in 1978.[4] Burr was on the football team at both Reynolds High School and Wake Forest. Burr lettered for the Demon Deacons during the 1974 and 1975 seasons; however, the team went winless in ACC play during his tenure.”

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    • cav16 says:

      I’m sure Burr has been bought and paid for many times! He actually seemed proud of his Benghazi Investigation scam.

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    • PatriotKate says:

      Burr is the epitome of the slick politician. Largely keeps a low profile and comes across as the class southern gentleman. He blows whichever way the wind blows. He is widely despised by his NC constituents. The only reason he did not lose his seat recently is the horrid woman he was running against was worse than Hillary. I’ve told his office repeatedly that’s the only reason he was re-elected.

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      • NC PATRIOT says:

        That and he made a token or two appearance at Trump rallies in NC—so Trump voters voted for him to try to hold the Senate for P45.

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      • G. Combs says:

        We were trying to get Burr primaried.
        Unfortunately the Raliegh Tump office had a guy there the entire time it was open who did NOTHING but campaign for Burr We nearly came to blows when he repeatedly told me to be quiet. I finally resorted to screaming at him BURR LIED!

        I loathe Burr because he out right lied to me about his not supporting the Food Safety bill before his election and was Co-sponsor AFTER his election.

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  7. fred5678 says:

    Just now on Fox News about McCain — “and his frequent partner, Lindsey Graham”. Tee hee.

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  8. albrevin says:

    The whole Trump agenda is being jammed up bc of this Russia thing…. senate holding up Gorsuch until they figure out whether impeachment can be pulled off or not, same with other appointees and legislation. It’s just delay and stall until resolution one way or other.

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  9. sundance says:

    IMHO Coats is not trying to hide anything. Again, go back to what Nunes is requesting.

    Devin Nunes is asking for Gang-of-eight level intelligence to be provided to the entire House Intel Committee which do not have Go8 level clearances. etc.

    Coats is simply saying “hang on there” we need to make sure and get all intelligence parties to sign off on this level of dissemination.

    From Nunes prior statements we know NSA Mike Rogers is essentially OK with the spread. However, we also know FBI Director Comey is not.

    DNI Coats is the hub, most likely wanting to ensure each compartment agrees before proceeding and looking at all the angles to protect sources and methods etc.

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  10. Athena the Warrior says:

    The Uniparty with the Democrats taking the lead on this one have been playing the game of destroy President Trump at all cost before he gets is people in place and takes them down. The long games looks like starting a war with Russia to steal her resources. The pressure is also on to prevent him from have detente with Russia. McCain is knee deep leading on that with the phony dossier.

    The game is falling apart quickly. These next several days should be very interesting.

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    • William Ford says:

      No party here wants to help Trump. Both the Dems and the GOPe want to destroy him. How can anyone think anything positive for Trump will be allowed to come out? Anything damaging to Obama and IC that participated in illegal spying on him will be shielded and never be allowed to come out or outright destroyed.

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      • Ozzie says:

        Trump looks for loyalty above all else. Nobody, has that in government and when they start to fall the long knives will come out on each other.
        Mice infestestaions eat everything until there is no food, then each other. A very pleasant end for a plague of vermin. I want Obamas carcass hanging in front of the White House, then all will be right in America again. And that could be the “participation trophy” for us all. And you can put a skirt on him if that sounds racist, I’m sure he has one.

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  11. SafeSpace says:

    Thank you for a clear and superbly informative article, Sundance. I can tell you never worked for the MSM (:>)

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  12. Kelly says:

    Once Nunes was red pilled, he’s been righteous. If I had a nickle for every article, tweet or social media posting that believes someone slipped him information in a dark alley, I’d have enough for a steak dinner tonight. Pass this article around. Some have no idea what a SCIF is and the purpose it serves.

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  13. Ip Siscr says:

    From the post – “… to ensure intelligence sharing; that is – to ensure intelligence was not intentionally withheld from other compartments when needed.

    It is doubtful the 911 commission ever gave thought to what might happen when intelligence is weaponized as …”

    This is exactly parallel to the essential concept of “hacking”. A system is built to provide an envisaged service or capability. It is verifed to serve this purpose and is then deemed complete. However, someone notices that, used creatively in ways the designers did not consider, the system can be a vehicle for other purposes. Thus, a question the designers must always ask is what capabilities have been inadvertently provided, and how should the system be modified or added to prevent their use. Naturally this adds to the costs of establishing the system.

    The Shannon diagram of the essentials of any comminication system

    https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse4.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.IfR3UJ3J9xG2vrUEHmhyMAEsCZ%26pid%3D15.1&f=1

    shows beautiful clean lines and boxes and an ideal simplicity and clarity. What could possibly go wrong ? The essential insight of the hacker is that those lines and boxes are real world things with their own properties and might be exploitable.

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  14. majorstar says:

    Secret Service as Nunes’s source:

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2011/03/inside-the-secret-service/308390/

    Agents and analysts at the Protective Intelligence and Assessment Division in Washington, D.C., prepare a detailed profile of each protectee—including information on who might wish him or her harm and why—for delivery to the New York field office. The Secret Service has access to virtually every bit of data produced by the American intelligence community; as Charlie Allen, a former top CIA officer who served as the Department of Homeland Security’s first intelligence chief, explains, “They are voracious consumers of intelligence.”

    That intelligence often includes sensitive information developed by counterparts in other countries: for obvious reasons, the service has some of the closest liaison relationships with foreign intelligence agencies of any U.S. entity. Chinese and Russian protective-security teams regularly spend time with Secret Service agents to help them prepare for large events. China even invited the service to Beijing to observe its agencies’ security arrangements for the 2008 Summer Olympics. Indeed, it is an irony of the service that some of its dealings with foreign security agencies are less fraught than those with the rest of the American intelligence community.

    So not only does the Secret Service have access to “every bit of data” of the U.S. IC, it has great access to foreign intelligence agencies’ product as well. So note that Judge Napolitano has returned to Fox and stands by his sources saying the intel given to Obama was from the GCHQ. The Secret Service is the only U.S. entity with access to all these sources of product.

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  15. The Fargo movie wood chipper sceen keeps popping up in my Dick evil mind!

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  16. SPMI says:

    All righty then…can we get these horror shows to indite people or is it just blah blah blah.
    When do we crush these SOB’S. Patience is a virtue, possess it if you can. It is seldom seen in woman, and never seen in man.

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  17. yy4u says:

    Trey Gowdy talked a good game on Benghazi then folded like a cheap suit. He got nowhere. Dems are just better at obstructing than Repubs. Here’s YY4U’s “rule” on Republicans and Democrats:

    Democrats put PARTY first, self (reelection) second and to hell with the country.

    Republicans used to put SELF (reelection) first, country second and to hell with the party Now they put SELF (reelection) first and to hell with both the country AND the party.

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  18. William Ford says:

    This is all very simple. The Russia intervened in the election and colluded with Trump is a hoax. Perpetrated by the Democrats for obvious political purposes. The Obama administration conducted illegal surveillance of candidate Trump and members of his campaign team and continued the illegal spying after he won the election right through the transition period up until inauguration. This is a far worse crime than Watergate. Using intelligence agencies for partisan political purposes. The MSM — which are nothing but propaganda outlets for the Democrat party — instead of exposing the criminal activity as they did in Watergate (to destroy a GOP president) want to shield a Democrat president and bury the story. They will not investigate anything. Anything positive for Trump gets buried. The MSM will keep the Russia-Trump hoax going as long as possible. They will bury and not allow any credence to the real story of politically motivated spying on Trump. The GOP establishment is very happy to have the Dems/MSM keep hitting Trump, weaken him, and provide the possibility they successfully frame him so the GOPe can be rid of him. If this was being done to someone like Jeb, the GOPe would be defending him & fighting back vigorously. You don’t see anyone (other than Nunes) who has made any attempt to defend Trump. It’s sickening.

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  19. SpanglishKC says:

    One last question…Am I to SURMISE from all that SD has posted that the DC media is INTENTIONALLY PLAYING DUMB that Nunez cannot discuss with the committee what he saw / read at the White House SCIF? AND is the DC MSM also pretending not to know that Schiff or any member of the I. C. can go and look at that same information themselves?

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    • cozette says:

      Possibly but Obama’s team used mockcrepirters for being 27 year old idiots who would believe anythingvthey were told.

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  20. mcclainra says:

    Since there has been so much about Russia here, and elsewhere, want to post this EXCELLENT article about Putin/Russia. I have admired Putin for a while, for reasons here, namely, he is a Nationalist–against the NWO/globalists, but also because he is a confessing, baptized Christian, which this does not mention. Not a surprise to those of us who have followed alt-media for a while, especially regarding Syria, which has been nothing but another attempt by the govt./black hats to overthrow another govt, led by someone re-elected, and that the people like. Of course there is the follow the money: oil, gas pipeline, and possibly other resources. Anyway, read this one. You won’t be sorry.

    https://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/think-vladimir-putin/

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  21. waicool says:

    Dear President Trump and AG Sessions, when are you going to indict someone, anyone. right now i’m seeing a lot of hat but no cattle. thank you, concerned taxpayer. p.s. the hildebeast would be a good start.

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  22. 3x1 says:

    Hannity has been running this story all show.

    Mostly what we already know here, but nice to see it getting visibility 🙂

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  23. Troublemaker says:

    Ok. I get the SKIF reasoning, I get the PDB reasoning, but I am still at a loss for why Coates (DNI) blocked the requested flow of Intel to IC committee? Just so he can get a handle on it first? To make sure sure all agency heads ok with it? Or something more serious? Is it possible it might bring in involvement from someone on the committee itself….Or the involvement of one of the Intel heads? And why was NSA supplying Nunes with requested info….But FBI not cooperating?

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    • Maquis says:

      I would think he’d okay it and let the miscreants be exposed. But maybe he is acting at PDJT’s request and giving Comey more rope, to hang himself with. Heck, maybe there is an investigation of Comey and his treasonous interactions with those who own him, whoever has been pulling his strings, paying him off, comprising him, directing him. Maybe they want to expose, fire, indict, and prosecute the entire rotten core of this over-powerful too easily corrupted agency in one fell swoop.

      I would hope they are all held incognito in full isolation throughout the entire ensuing investigation and prosecution, for the security of our Nation, and of our President.

      So hard to say. I want to trust Trump, and I do, but,,,he trusted Ryan. Unless the final shiv comes soon, I cannot fathom his reliance on Ryan for anything other than as a restroom attendant at one of his properties, far from DC.

      4D Chess. I am praying for it.

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      • Marti says:

        Ha ! Maq, from your lips to God’s ears! I believe your 4D Chess explanation. Through the campaign I used to think…..why isn’t he doing something(?) Then Kaboom…..the enemy target would be undone. Look at Ryan’s reputation – it is in shambles and everyone feels sorry for Trump having been betrayed. Ryan was too smart by half. I just came to the conclusion that Trump is a brilliant long game strategist. Think all of us here know that now.

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  24. Troublemaker says:

    Here’s the article about Judge Napolitano’s reappearance. He says he stands by his previous report , his sources stand by it…..And says he thinks there is a lot more to come.

    The Fox News analyst behind Trump’s explosive wiretapping claims is back on the air
    http://www.businessinsider.com/andrew-napolitano-returns-to-the-air-stands-by-trump-wiretap-claims-2017-3?utm_content=buffer2f9a0&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer-politics

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    • Troublemaker says:

      Judge Napolitano’s original report was that Trump spying was done by GCHQ on behalf of Obama administration.

      Would GCHQ reports be in the PDB? Hmmmmmm

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      • 3x1 says:

        What’s in the PDB is whatever the peeps preparing the PDB deem relevant and worthy of POTUS’ time.

        While we’re supposed to be BFF with the Brits, and work beside them at Menwith Hill and vice versa, there’s no guarantee they can’t gather more without our knowing, and disseminate it wherever they want. Twould be very risky to do so, but they love moslems and hate Trump, sooooo…..

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      • Never Say Anything says:

        GCHQ has access to a lot of the NSA intel. The only thing they don’t have access to is some of NSA’s more sensitive programs, nor do they get access to some of the “sources and methods” (or technology). However, they do have access to the intel these programs generate.

        For example, NSA used to run a project codenamed BULLRUN. This was a project that allowed the decryption of all internet communications protected by SSL (and VPN’s). When the GCHQ heard about the program, they were “gobsmacked.” They were also told by NSA that there will be “no need to know” — in other words, they were told not to even ask how NSA had accomplished it. But GCHQ still had access to the intelligence that BULLRUN had uncovered.

        It is perfectly possible that GCHQ picked up Trump or his team talking with foreigners (any foreigner) and then transmitted that intel back to NSA. Now, one might ask why the NSA needed GCHQ for this task. I’d say it was probably for legal reasons — perhaps the foreign actors being monitored by GCHQ weren’t cleared for surveillance under FISA here in the U.S. Remember that FISA covers both domestic and foreign intel (section 702 covers the foreign side). NSA has the technical ability to spy on just about any foreigner, but it doesn’t mean it’s legal in every case. If they had GCHQ do it for them (with a wink and a nudge), they could bypass any domestic laws.

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  25. littlebird160 says:

    https://youtu.be/tu5piMRY1fU The evolution of the SKIF.

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  26. MVW says:

    I am so frustrated I can spit. Why are we walking on stilts, carrying 100 pound barbells, and skipping rope while playing the harmonica? Or in other words, they the circus act? Throw the traitors in jail, or line them up against the brick wall?

    That is what my frustrated, beat the hell up, with a bag on my head self is saying. I am tired of the psychological abuse. Tired of it.

    The best I can figure is that the level of traitorous activity, scope and how high it goes up the food chain is, is that it could bring down the US democracy. I think that is the worry. Hence, the effort is to go so slow and methodical that in the end the final swamp drain act will be like the Nuremberg trials.

    I dunno. On the other hand this may all be swept under the rug and the untouchables will slip away into the slimy dank dark.

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    • Maquis says:

      Any one of those skunks that is “untouchable” needs to be disappeared forever. No one should have that much power over our tottering Republic. They won’t play nice in their lairs. They will have zero accountability and a huge and willing Subversion Infrastructure to manipulate as they find new employ by some Globalists or other, eager to take advantage of their skill set.

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  27. freepetta says:

    I hope Nunes stays right where he is!!! Adam Schiff is a lying weasel who is totally partisan and keeps trying to find someone in the Trump transition spoke to someone in Russia, all they have to do is look at Hillie, Bill and the Podesta bros!

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  28. freepetta says:

    I hope Nunes stays right where he is!!! Adam Schiff is a lying weasel who is totally partisan and keeps trying to find someone in the Trump transition spoke to someone in Russia, all they have to do is look at Hillie, Bill and the Podesta bros!

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  29. 3x1 says:

    A fitting end would see all spying parties remanded to FEMA camps for the remainder of their miserable, traitorous lives.

    Brennan, Morell and the Clapper should have latrine cleaning duty. With a toothbrush.

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  30. silverlakela says:

    More than a “smoking gun”.
    Evelyn Farkas, deputy assistant secretary of defense under Obama, on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” admits Trump was under surveillance, unmasked and leaked intelligence.

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  31. Mr. Morris says:

    The swamp creatures are vile and are doing everything in their power to get rid of President Trump and invalidate our votes. When the Obama Administration emulated the old USSR and spied on American citizens and disseminated information as validated by Dr. Evelyn Farkus we are in a very bad place.
    We have to hang tough and make sure the b–tards treasonous acts are punished. President Trump needs to know we have his back.

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  32. TrumpFanGirl says:

    Thinking aloud here – remember Ozero was being told what he wanted to hear by Intel regarding Al-Quida, ISIS, whatnot. (As opposed to reality) Don’t know if it has anything to do with anything…just another ‘dot’.

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  33. anthohmy says:

    Also on November 16th, DNI Clapper turned in his resignation letter.
    On November 17th, he publicly announced his resignation.

    He said they had “forensic” evidence of Russian cyber intrusions. How is that so without having evaluated the devices?

    I had this sense that Comey was de-legitimizing Clapper as a legitimate DNI during the period between the day he announced and his departure on inauguration day. Comey leaned into the mic and even had a little excitement in his voice when he said he told DNI Coats the very morning he was sworn in, that’s how important this is was the message I received. But important enough to hold back from Clapper.

    Montgomery fingered Clapper as originator of spying mechanisms, before Brennan officially joined the club.

    I remember some flap about Trump and Presidential Briefings, he seemed disinterested.

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  34. GREENMIRROR says:

    mmm substance or process of finding information…if Hussein’s briefing can only be found at the white house SCIF(or NSA Utah)… CNN asking right now for SCHIFF to be able to come the the White House to review the sources & the substance!

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  35. mj_inOC says:

    Read somewhere else that Nunes noted the dates on what he read for reference, which suggests they were PDBs, further suggesting that former POTUS saw…

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  36. LibertyChick says:

    Trump needs to go the “The Freedom Index” and look at the Senators and Congressmen whose voting records are most highly aligned with the Constitution – then take those highest voting Republicans and Democrats and put them on that band of 8. Of 250+ representatives only 5 have a voting record at least 90% aligned with the Constitution (all Republicans). Would probably have to go down into the 60% area to find the highest aligned Democrat, but that would still be better than some that are below 20% like Obama, Hitlery and Kaine (1%!)
    http://www.thenewamerican.com/freedomindex/

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  37. mj_inOC says:

    Read somewhere that Nunes wrote down dates of info he read for future reference, which suggests they were PDBs, which further suggests former POTUS has seen!

    Pray harder…

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  38. Janis says:

    It seems that Obama and his intel tea are all sneaky snakes and are prepared to do anything they can to accomplish their crooked objectives

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  39. Attorney says:

    This country absolutely needs a divorce. I cannot believe that such people are my “fellow” citizens. Time to give up. Give us Red State, and let these slugs have Blue State.

    How else are things going to improve?

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