One Bluff Called: Senators Graham and Grassley Send Criminal Referral To DOJ…

Yup, the walls are closing in.

In a brilliant move of strategery, Senate Judiciary Chairman, Chuck Grassley, and Senate Judiciary member, Lindsey Graham, send a criminal referral of Christopher Steele to the DOJ for investigation.   But things are not what they seem…

Today Senators Grassley and Graham sent a letter of criminal referral to the Department of Justice, based on information -provided by the FBI- their investigation has uncovered.

However, the actual motive for the criminal referral is not exactly what it appears.

Highlighting two pertinent passages (emphasis mine) from the New York Times article will explain what’s really going on:

[…] Senator Charles E. Grassley of Iowa, chairman of the Judiciary Committee, and Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, a senior committee member, told the Justice Department they had reason to believe that a former British spy, Christopher Steele, lied to federal authorities about his contacts with reporters regarding information in the dossier, and they urged the department to investigate. The committee is running one of three congressional investigations into Russian election meddling, and its inquiry has come to focus, in part, on Mr. Steele’s explosive dossier that purported to detail Russia’s interference and the Trump campaign’s complicity.

[…] The criminal referral appears to make no assessment of the veracity of the dossier’s contents, much of which remains unsubstantiated nearly a year after it became public.

[…]  Mr. Grassley’s decision to recommend criminal charges appeared likely to be based on reports of Mr. Steele’s meetings with the F.B.I., which were provided to the committee by the Justice Department in recent weeks.

It was not clear why, if a crime is apparent in the F.B.I. reports that were reviewed by the Judiciary Committee, the Justice Department had not moved to charge Mr. Steele already.

The circumstances under which Mr. Steele is alleged to have lied were unclear, as much of the referral was classified.  (full article)

Can you see what is really going on here?

The criminal referral is based on FBI reports of meetings the FBI has given to the Senate Judiciary Committee about the FBI meetings with Christopher Steele.

Within those FBI reports (presented to the committee) are conflicting statements and accounts that do not align with known evidence.

The FBI is attributing claims to the meetings with Christopher Steele that do not match known evidence about the Steele Dossier and use therein.

Remember what Senator Graham said recently about his review of the evidence surrounding the Steele Dossier and how it was used, by the FBI in gaining the FISA warrant?  –Refresh Memory Here

What Grassley and Graham are now doing is forcing the DOJ to reconcile the conflicts between the FBI presentations to the judiciary committee -about the origin of, and their use of, the Steele Dossier-  against known evidence.

Someone is lying.

Graham and Grassley know the motive to lie about the Steele Dossier does not necessarily belong to Christopher Steele.  The motive is within the corrupt FBI.

In order to accurately prove ownership of the the falsehoods Grassley and Graham are saying: ‘If what the FBI says is true then Chris Steele is lying, because the evidence doesn’t support what the FBI previously said to us, and attributed to Christopher Steele’…

Grassley and Graham are calling the bluff of the FBI.

“Based on the information contained therein, we are respectfully referring Mr. Steele to you for investigation of potential violations of 18 U.S.C. § 1001, for statements the Committee has reason to believe Mr. Steele made regarding his distribution of information contained.”  (link)

The “information contained therein” is the FBI presentation of statements and evidence the FBI is attributing to Christopher Steele.

By referring a criminal complaint to the DOJ the Senators are, in essence, forcing the DOJ to outline that material presentations by the FBI, to the committee, were false…. OR, that Christopher Steele is lying.  The former is likely, the latter not-so-much.

Additionally, by asking Rod Rosenstein (DOJ) and Christopher Wray (FBI) to investigate the conflicting evidence and FBI statements Grassley and Graham are also providing political cover for Rosenstein and Wray to showcase the corruption within both the DOJ and the FBI.


The walls are closing in.

WASHINGTON – Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) and Judiciary Subcommittee on Crime and Terrorism Chairman Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) referred the author of the “Trump Dossier,” Christopher Steele, to the Justice Department for investigation of potential violations of 18 U.S.C. § 1001 for false statements investigators have reason to believe Steele made about the distribution of claims contained in the dossier.

“I don’t take lightly making a referral for criminal investigation. But, as I would with any credible evidence of a crime unearthed in the course of our investigations, I feel obliged to pass that information along to the Justice Department for appropriate review,” Grassley said. “Everyone needs to follow the law and be truthful in their interactions with the FBI. If the same actions have different outcomes, and those differences seem to correspond to partisan political interests, then the public will naturally suspect that law enforcement decisions are not on the up-and-up. Maybe there is some innocent explanation for the inconsistencies we have seen, but it seems unlikely. In any event, it’s up to the Justice Department to figure that out.”

“After reviewing how Mr. Steele conducted himself in distributing information contained in the dossier and how many stop signs the DOJ ignored in its use of the dossier, I believe that a special counsel needs to review this matter. The rule of Law depends on the government and all who work on its behalf playing by the rules themselves. I hope the Department of Justice will carefully review our letter and take appropriate action,” Graham said.

Yesterday evening, Grassley and Graham delivered to Senate Security a letter and classified memorandum for delivery to Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and FBI Director Christopher Wray containing information that forms the basis of the referral.

Under 18 U.S.C. § 1001, individuals are prohibited from making false statements to the federal authorities of the United States. Grassley and Graham are referring Steele for making potentially false statements about the distribution of claims from the dossier. (LINK)

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468 Responses to One Bluff Called: Senators Graham and Grassley Send Criminal Referral To DOJ…

  1. Blue Moon says:

    Ya know, I can’t for the life of me understand why Bill Clinton has disappeared and you never hear anything out of him. Why doesn’t he come out fighting for Hillary? In the past he would have and did. I know they pretty much have gone their separate ways but still this involves Bill C.’s legacy as President.

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  2. Newhere says:

    Trying to be sure I follow: “Based on the information contained therein” is referring to a “classified memorandum” (authored by/originating from FBI and given to the Jud. Comm.) related to “communications” between Steele and U.S. news outlets concerning the dossier.

    So: the referral stems from an FBI presentation of statements and evidence (“classified memo”) prepared for the Judiciary Committee. [Question: do we assume the memo was prepared for the purpose of informing the Jud. Comm. (i.e., recently), or is it possible it that it was prepared contemporaneously with FBI/Steele communications?]

    Next: the apparent “false statement(s)” the committee is identifying pertains to “statements” Steele made to the FBI concerning “his distribution of information contained in the dossier.” In other words, the memo contain statements attributed to Steele on the issue of what dossier information he shared with U.S. news outlets that are manifestly false or conflicting. Correct?

    The judiciary committee also seems interested in Fusion’s payments to U.S. news outlets. Any ideas on how Steele’s/Fusion’s apparent dossier media campaign fits into the big picture of the investigations? Or to put it another way, are Grassley/Graham focused on the substance (i.e., media campaign) or is that aspect to all this more incidental (or at least secondary) to the cat-and-mouse going on with the congressional committees and DOJ/FBI over the dossier?

    Is another possible effect/purpose to keep some heat on Steele, who has rebuffed requests for congressional testimony?

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  3. Sylvia Avery says:

    To heck with the popcorn. Does anyone know if they still make smelling salts? I very nearly swooned when I read this. I forgot to breathe.

    I didn’t even know the Senate could send a criminal referral to the DOJ.

    But then, until I saw Representative DeSantis on Lou Dobbs a while ago I didn’t know that the House had a JAIL where they could detain people they held in contempt. Holy smokes!

    I wish they would have had the guts to do that when they held Holder in contempt. He might still be there, shuffling along in his shower sandals and orange jump suit.

    I’m so appreciative of the news and analysis here.

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  4. Donna in Oregon says:

    Fire & Fury release is 4 days early choreographed with some Bannon meltdown, meanwhile most of the Clinton crimes are being investigated by various House & Senate committees rather than the DOJ/FBI. But the investigations are allegedly hampered because the DOJ/FBI won’t produce evidence. The agencies didn’t want to, but now they will. Suddenly Congress has balls. Is anyone else’s BS meter going off? Mine is……

    Special Counsel Mueller is hired to investigate a made-up muh Russia, but the SC is involved in some of the cases being investigated by the committees. Yet some gossip rag book is supposed to be important because it calls the POTUS names.

    This reads like the cover of Tiger Beat magazine or Soap Opera Digest.

    It all looks like Fake News, including the interviews with the committee members. If we can access the info, so can Capitol Hill and their highly paid staffers. Hell, they should be able to gossip at the water cooler and find out. They ALL work there. Congress never did a budget the entire time Obama was in office. Democratic or Republican. Nada. NOthing.

    Didn’t bug-eyed Evelyn Farkas say she contacted Capitol Hill about muh Russia? Yes, she did. McCain knew, and if McCain knew Miss Lindsay knew. Come on…… They all knew when Obama was in office and did nothing.

    This looks like a snipe hunt.

    Where is the 12 Trillion dollars they (this includes White and Black hats) pissed away? Where is our money? These morons are trying to pull another Mortgage Meltdown, Savings and Loan scandal, Solyndra scandal. Any number of fake events designed to steal our money. The money never really disappears, they just don’t tell us who they gave it to.

    This is a ruse to distract from the theft of our money. I blame them ALL!!!

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  5. webgirlpdx says:

    Is it just me or has Lindsey been dragged kicking and screaming into this?
    I mean, won’t this Steele Dossier daylight expose his buddy, McCain?

    Liked by 9 people

  6. Matthew LeBlanc says:


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  7. Joe says:

    I’m not following this line of reasoning even though I read the entire post. Can someone break down sundance’s theory on why Grassley is doing this in just a couple sentences? He doesn’t think Steele lied but took this action because…

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    • CountryclassVulgarian says:

      The FBI are likely the liars. Grassley and Graham are forcing their hands.

      Liked by 12 people

    • “Graham and Grassley know the motive to lie about the Steele Dossier does not necessarily belong to Christopher Steele. The motive is within the corrupt FBI.

      In order to accurately prove ownership of the the falsehoods Grassley and Graham are saying: ‘If what the FBI says is true then Chris Steele is lying, because the evidence doesn’t support what the FBI previously said to us, and attributed to Christopher Steele’…

      Grassley and Graham are calling the bluff of the FBI.”

      Liked by 7 people

    • Greg Herter says:

      Grassley and Graham know that the FBI knew that Steele was lying. And they ran with it.

      Liked by 3 people

    • Sylvia Avery says:

      Because Grassley thinks someone at DOJ/FBI lied and he wants DOJ/FBI to handle their stinky problem, grab the dirty liar by the neck and charge him. Or them.

      Liked by 8 people

    • Newt Love says:

      Grassley and Graham are rubbing the FBI’s face in their own stink. A careful read of FBI records of statements made by “The Awful Dodger” Michael Steele to the FBI revealed inconsistencies and contradictions (lying).

      This is an obvious poke, a joke at the expense of FBI Leadership, who have exposed their fine line between “liars we like” and “people we don’t like.”

      I doubt that Sessions will un-recuse himself for this, leaving it to Deputy AG Rosenstain to pursue, which he won’t, because he is a ringleader in the “Insurance Policy” conspiracy. But this whicked joke on the FBI’s credibility will be part of the permanent / historical record.


  8. H&HC 2nd-16th says:

    “Honey – – better pour me a double and leave the bottle on the counter. I’m going to be late. Sundance wants us to stay up all night again……………………”

    Liked by 19 people

  9. USA First! says:

    They never cared about the way We the People felt as they ran roughshod over our wills. For many years in the heights of their arrogance they snuffed at the rule of law and mocked at the thought that they, the politically elite, would have to be held accountable for shattering the laws.

    We watched as they used the reigns of power to enrich their own pockets. They stepped on us as nothing more than plebeians to be used and discarded. Our pain was their pleasure, following the rule of law was for the little people.

    They never thought this day would come. With smug faces they would clink their champagne glasses and congratulate themselves on how they rigged the system. Hillary is going to be the next president don’t you know? *clink *.

    I say build the gallows. Paint them red, what’s and blue. Let none escape justice. It’s not just to pacify our cold anger. It’s the preservation of our God given freedoms and way of life. That our children and grandchildren would learn that no one is above the law.

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    • I’m not understanding why Rogers is retiring just when the Inspector’s report should be coming out.


    • Brant says:

      I wonder if Rogers is retiring to prep for a civilian job in Trump cabinet. Where would he be good?

      Liked by 5 people

    • Donna in Oregon says:

      Unmasking requests were made thru his agency????

      All hat colors aside, these unmaskings happened during his watch. At anytime the FISC could have been notified.

      The color hat I would chose for Adm. Mike Rogers is dirty white. What is the common thread of all these players? They want to make it to retirement. This guy is no different than McCabe in for the retirement prize, because doing nothing is the same as participating. When someone is that high up sitting on the fence gets a participation trophy.

      Everyone on CTH has been in that situation, where you know something is wrong but are afraid to do something about it. Adm. Mike Rogers is that guy……

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      • KBR says:

        I have been saying the same things.

        Was the Constitution protected, did he bear true faith and allegiance to the Constitution during HIS WATCH @NSA -ALL of his watch from April 2014 on…(not just after 2016)…

        Or did he break that sacred oath, or knowingly allow the Constitution (any portion of it) to be broken on his watch without defending it immediately?

        “all enemies foreign and DOMESTIC”

        He once swore:
        “I, Michael S. Rodgers, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.”

        Many who swore the same gave their very lives, in horrible torturous circumstances.

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      • Maquis says:

        “Taskings” were sent from OUTSIDE via the FISA authorization, months after Zero had already started spying on Trump. Rogers does not see all taskings, likely few.

        YET. Yet Rogers discovers improprieties and instructs his Compliance Officer to conduct a full audit. They discovered big problems.

        So he goes to his superior then to the FISA Court to report it. He and his people propose to the Court a technical solution to prevent inappropriate inadvertent upstream queries, which are the Internet/Communications Backbone searches capable of sucking up anything. The Court says do it.

        Rogers does. Yet the abusive queries continue. So he closed the entire (702)17 query system down. Period. Told his boss, told the Court.

        Why did the queries continue? Rogers told Congress that their technical solution didn’t work. That’s entirely true, it didn’t. What wasn’t said, what couldn’t be said there before Congress, is WHY it didn’t work.

        My take? Obama had secret operatives within the NSA abusing their systems to abuse American Citizens. Sundance just today affirmed that Obama operatives were inside the NSA to perform just such tasks. I have no doubt that if Rogers suspected this, he told Trump in person. Congress never had the sense to ask why, and that’s working out just fine.

        All in due time.

        Rogers is the Whitest of White Hats. He risked his life to protect us, then again to protect President Trump.

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      • standlow says:

        Adm. Rogers’ unprecedented trip to Trump Tower gives him great standing in my view.


        • Newhere says:

          I will “out” myself as a leftie; how did I end up here at Last Refuge? Because I’ve been trying on my own to sort through all the noise, to *obtain and follow real news* and it’s practically impossible! Our deranged news media and ruling class have been actively misdirecting, misinforming, obfuscating, ignoring or willfully misconstruing *verified facts and manifest reality* so brazenly and pervasively that I literally *can’t* find basic information (which I know isn’t new, but at least in my lifetime has never been so total in scope). It’s ridiculous and maddening to have to wade through “news” trying to glean facts from gossip and innuendo, littered throughout partial and misleading reporting. (An irony of the sudden “fake news” craze is that the real defense is for people to demand factual, sourced reporting, which is how a leftie ends up at a conservative website, and which would disqualify probably about 80% of the “reporting” by the esteemed news outlets that are leading the charge against “fake news”).

          I’m saying all this because I, too, wish these revelations would come to the surface faster — I’d like to be able to share a reality with people around me. But on reflection, SD is absolutely right that the only way to bring the truth to the fore is through these careful, methodical accountability procedures and processes (e.g., the NSA compliance review/report to FISC, the IG investigation, and the persistent inquiries pushed by certain congressional committee members).

          In the current climate and given the magnitude of what appears to be the case, no whistleblower — Adm. Rogers, Congressman Nunes, or even Sessions or Wray — could succeed at blowing the lid off in one fell swoop. They would be ignored, smeared, or worse, and the blob would seep swiftly over the “breach.” Things like the FISC decision published in May; the recent DOJ-IG revelations; and the forced disclosure of the origin of the “dossier” — these key developments are the result of responsible officials *using the tools of the legal system* to compel the disclosure (and perhaps just as importantly, the official recognition) of the truth. These vital developments present irrefutable glimmers of a bigger picture, which, in time, and through the same grinding wheels of accountability, will spur more revelations.

          At least half the country is invested in a dangerous delusion. I am literally met with scorn for even questioning any part of it. I’m impatient too. I believe the whole truth — or most of it — will come to light and acceptance will come eventually, but it will be slow, resisted, and may never be total. And I fear the “lessons learned” will not be the right ones. What I plead among readers here is to maintain the vigilance and to apply it universally — resist falling into the trap of letting policy, politics, or even past experience become a lens through which one side appears wholly good or righteous, and the other side appears wholly lost. One moral of this emerging story is that individual character matters for better or for worse, and can’t be assumed or prejudged.

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          • KeithInTampa says:

            Howdy NewHere!

            Despite your political leanings; this site, (CTH/LastRefuge) is literally an eye opener and worth the purview. This is not your normal “Rebublican” site, but more of a “We’re Fed Up And Not Going To Take It Anymore” group/blog; (The owner Sundance calls it: “Cold Anger”!)

            At any rate, I think most thoughtful Americans are like you; looking for truth and have tired of the entire globalist, elitist establishment “Uni-Party” which consists of both sides of the political aisle!

            Glad to have you aboard!


            • Newhere says:

              Thanks. (I apparently can’t “like” without signing up for some new account thing — but I appreciate the response and the welcome!)


    • lokiscout says:

      That’s one tired “Swabbie” I will hate to see go. Fair winds and following seas, Admiral. “Now LIberty Call!”

      Caution on the article referenced by TeaFor All, remember it’s a “politico” piece so watch for the cow pies as you transverse it. No bigly deal for a Treeper but I sometimes feel for our fellow patriots searching for truth and enlightenment on other blogs.

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  10. NYT from 2008 “Also among the largest donors were a businessman who was close to the onetime military ruler of Nigeria, a Ukrainian tycoon who was son-in-law of that former Soviet republic’s authoritarian president and a Canadian mining executive who took Mr. Clinton to Kazakhstan while trying to win lucrative uranium contracts.”

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  11. Johnny Bravo says:

    Fleps cold anger is boiling over in his more recent statements👍😂

    Death by a thousand cuts is what is happening to ole Hilbag and her minions.

    She has so much experience in these “matters” – you could probably call her a pro.

    However what’s different this time is that there are no bolt holes, no friends in the State Dept or White House or DOJ or at the FBI to cover for her anymore. They’re all running for their lives.

    She is personally in a holding pattern and can neither go forward nor back in her life.

    Bits are literally falling off her cover, it started with that shoe at the memorial, now it’s McCabe, Priestap, Comey, Page, Strzok to name a few.

    Frankly the way things are going Hibag (and friends) – to borrow a famous phrase, “Now he won, you’ll all hang for this”😆🤣🤪

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  12. Sylvia Avery says:

    I just saw where NSA Chief Admiral Mike Rogers has announced he is retiring in April, per Reuters.

    Liked by 2 people

    • booger71 says:

      I heard Cohen was retiring too, no date given

      Liked by 1 person

    • All American Snowflake says:

      An Admiral abandoning the sinking ship?


      • Johnny Bravo says:

        Or maybe he’d consider running for Congress or the senate?👍


      • 🍺Gunny says:

        He exposed the whole rotten mess….he probably wants to relax and enjoy his retirement..he did his job and more…
        Let him go…and enjoy his family

        Liked by 5 people

        • Donna in Oregon says:

          Gunny always looking on the sunny side….. He probably knows the the IG report coming out in April will show that he didn’t do anything to stop Obama until it was clear that Hillary was not going to be President.

          The whole thing was about him enjoying his retirement. It was never about saving us from the treasonous Swamp. It’s about his money, not ours.

          Add to that he probably has a book deal for playing along. Just like Comey et al.

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          • Maquis says:

            Not. True. He stuck it out through Obama. Fought the illegal searches, risking his life, and closed it entirely down, when that was the only way left to stop it. He probably saved Trump the Presidency if not his life.

            I responded on this topic upthread where you were on this same idea.
            Please read it. Thank you.

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          • navysquid says:

            Donna…I agree with Maquis and my fellow shipmate, ADM Rogers. We Navy guys tend to be stand up guys for our country and he likely saw the abuses the Obama Admin was doing to our country. He stuck around, reported it, followed up, and then once that he saw the IG report was complete and going to be released, said Now, I can retire.

            I love the thought of him joining the Trump Admin if they are pursuing that avenue…maybe there will be an AG position opening up…lol had to tweak you all…

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      • lokiscout says:

        Pay attention Admiral Rogers is the (original) good guy white hat of this crap heap. He is the one who tipped of then President-elect Trump his operations at Trump Tower were being surveilled. Who knows how this may have gone down lf he hadn’t.

        Looks to me like in this good Admirals eyes the “Ship of State” is in good hands, he has completed his mission in that recovery and may now “Leave the Bridge”. Time for some well deserved “Liberty Call”!

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    • cheryl says:

      All these Congressmen and CEOs retiring when most used to stay in until they day they died. Makes me wonder if they are complicit in some way with the collusion and running for their lives as well.

      Liked by 5 people

      • Karen says:

        We have been hearing that many DC crooks will be retiring rather than face the music for pedogate. Just saying.

        Liked by 4 people

        • KBR says:

          When someone commits and gets caught in a heinous crime these days, all they have to do is retire?

          And we will be oh so happy to pay the large retirement sums and benfits for the rest of their days.

          How nice. Must be wonderful to be an elite criminal.

          Too bad the petty thieves don’t know about our generosity.

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  13. Somebody says:

    Hopefully DOJ will investigate and not send this down some rabbit hole to disappear.

    It is likely that the FBI is the actual target, but what Steele really is the target? Impeach Steele’s credibility and further impeach the dossier, which was the basis for FISA no matter what fantasy the NYT spins.

    Either way it tosses a molotov cocktail into muh Russia……win-win.

    Liked by 5 people

    • thedoc00 says:

      It may also taint all the “evidence” and case against Flynn, Manefort and Papadopoulos. Could save Trump the political fire storm of having to pardon them.

      Liked by 3 people

      • lokiscout says:

        Probably ready to pull the trigger on Flynn since he did nothing other than take a bullet for the cause, Sundance explained how he got caught up in this a couple weeks back.
        Manafort is on his own. nothing there that Trump can help with and President Trump probably wishes he had never gotten him involved with the campaign.
        I suggest President Trump’s opinion of Papadopoulos is “Papa Who?”

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  14. MfM says:

    Someone earlier in the thread said that the Camp David trip was “It’s top MAGA retreat- planning out strategy and priorities to go gangbusters on”

    I know what the traditional meaning of retreat is… but giving this line up… I think we are talking ADVANCE! not retreat.

    Liked by 4 people

  15. burnett044 says:

    Lady Linda….watching Miss Lyndsey….give me a laff……that pillow biting butt-pirate would do in his own mother to save his own arse…….but oh the tears when his man John goes to the seventh circle of hell……no word has yet been invented to tell of my feelings for these people.

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  16. James W Crawford says:

    Many will recall that soon after Trump won the election, he extended an olive branch to the Clintons and the Democrats by indicating that he would not persue an investigation of or prosecute on the email server issue. The implicit Quid Pro Quo was that the Democrats would cease the Russians hacked the election BS. Rather than accept the proffer, the FBI and DOJ doubled down by appointing a special prosecutor.

    Pay back is going to be a bitch.

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  17. Thecleaner says:

    The timing of this is perfect.
    Using 18 usc 1001 which is essentially lying to congress or the FBI, it sends a frigid chill down the spines of all the traitors set to appear and lie before congress this month.
    They know they will be arrested if they lie, and they have no idea exactly what congress knows.
    They are screwed big time here.

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  18. Greg Sheldon says:

    This is better than a great action adventure thriller.

    Liked by 1 person

  19. burnett044 says:

    many will not be able to recall…..some will plead the fifth….most will drink the fifth.

    Liked by 3 people

  20. HMelville says:

    For the good of the nation, I hope the walls are truly closing in on the politically corrupted and that justice will soon be done.

    While the corrupt media is celebrating Wolff’s trashy anti Trump book with an unrestrained gossip fest, dedicated and reputable GOP members of Congress (Jordan, Grassley etc) are trying to purge the nation of some very serious alleged corruption within 2 of the nation’s major pillars–the FBI and the DOJ. The Dem party and their revered leaders Obama and Hillary were holding various reigns of power when these alleged illegal and politically spawned activities were occurring, so the MSM should enjoy their celebratory gossip party, because when the results of these investigations are complete, they will not be in a partying mood. Indictments trump gossip.

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  21. scott467 says:

    “By referring a criminal complaint to the DOJ the Senators are, in essence, forcing the DOJ to outline that material presentations by the FBI, to the committee, were false…. OR, that Christopher Steele is lying. The former is likely, the latter not-so-much.”


    Is there some reason why the all the king’s horsemen and all the king’s men at the DOJ can’t recognize these obvious conflicts and actually do even the tiniest bit of investigation on their own?

    Why does the DOJ need Lady Graham playing Miss Marple to Senator Grassley’s Ben Matlock routine in order to connect the dots for them?

    Are there ANY professional investigators at the DOJ?

    If the DOJ can’t figure any of this out unless Marple and Matlock on the case, we’re in heap um big trouble.

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    • scott467 says:

      Maybe the Golden Girls could help the DOJ out next…


    • mimbler says:

      That was my point upthread, Wray and Rosenstein have to be intimately familiar with this particular batch of data because they have been fighting subpoenas for it since August.

      And they recently had to cough it up. They know it very well.

      There is no way, that they would not be aware of the inconsistencies and the fact that the inconsistencies mean -someone(s)- involved are criminals for lying if nothing else.

      With the info we have, I can’t reach any conclusion other than they are complicit for reasons unknown.

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      • lokiscout says:

        The FBI can;t investigate itself and fix any problems. Mama (Congress and ultimately “We the People”) have to ride in look at what’s going on, deliver the spankings and lay down the rules that makes sure this never happens again! Until it does then wash, rinse and repeat.
        Its the nature of government. Most people have no way of fixing theirs when it gets out of control we do.

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        • Maquis says:

          Actually, much can be done within. The DOJ IG, Horowitz, is part of yhat system of oversight. The Director and leaders at many levels can resolve issues and report corruption and graft.

          In this case, the top was thoroughly corrupted. Mueller is dirty as Sin. Comey the Clown as well. They created a crony leadership system at the FBI and kept out dedicated decorated career Agents.

          They served Clinton, then Obama & Clinton. The most corrupt Presidents ever. They killed the oversight process. Sally Yates blocked the IG from investigating the National Security Division, where they hid their ‘small group’ Political Warfare Unit.

          So yes, it did get broken, but it didn’t have to happen. The American People fell for a Hound-Dog Grifter and a Communist Islamic Terrorist, not to mention FDR and LBJ and…

          As you said, it is our job to fix it, our right, our obligation. Americans failed that task, that’s how it got so bad. The Soviets and the Muslim Brotherhood could not ask for more destructive puppets.

          As for wash, rinse, and repeat…Brother, I hope America never sees a domestic crisis of these proportions ever again.

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      • ray76 says:

        Why are they given cover? Rosenstein is dirty. I’m not sure about Wray.

        Liked by 1 person

  22. Sanj says:

    Brilliant analysis! I’m pretty good at reading these situations but I don’t have the analytics or experience for this depth. Well done Sundance!

    Liked by 2 people

  23. burnett044 says:

    You guys ever notice that Sundance be like..

    lol ya gotta love him

    Liked by 11 people

  24. scott467 says:

    “Additionally, by asking Rod Rosenstein (DOJ) and Christopher Wray (FBI) to investigate the conflicting evidence and FBI statements Grassley and Graham are also providing political cover for Rosenstein and Wray to showcase the corruption within both the DOJ and the FBI.”


    Why do Rosenstein and Wray need ‘cover’ in order to do even the most basic investigative work, i.e., their JOB?

    If it takes an act of Congress in order to get the DOJ and FBI to investigate obvious conflicting statements and evidence… then they’re not for real.

    It’s as simple as that.

    These people have no trouble prosecuting extremely complex financial crimes, but they can’t spot obvious conflicting testimony between equally obvious corrupt members of the FBI and Christopher Steele?

    Come on… this is embarrassing.

    Liked by 4 people

    • Thecleaner says:

      The political cover is for Trump…not Rosey or Wray. Without congress flipping the bic so to speak, then it will simply play as a political vendetta by Trump, using the DOJ to do his bidding.
      It has to be this way.

      Liked by 9 people

      • Craig Dominik says:

        Regarding Thecleaner’s comment to Scott,
        Exactly! The crooked main stream media will say (as they already have on several occasions) that Trump is using the DOJ to go after people he does not like. Congressional Republicans will support each other.

        Liked by 2 people

        • scott467 says:

          “The crooked main stream media will say (as they already have on several occasions) that Trump is using the DOJ to go after people he does not like.


          They are going to say that anyway.

          I have never once seen the Left hog-tie and hamstring themselves over how their opponents might characterize the Left’s actions.

          The Left is BOLD in their commission of evil.

          Why are we so TIMID about doing what is good and right?

          The whole thing is upside down and backwards.

          WE are in the right. WE should be bold, not the cockroaches who need the cover of darkness for their evil deeds.


      • Maquis says:

        Bingo! Nice to agree on something today. 😊

        Liked by 1 person

      • scott467 says:

        “The political cover is for Trump…not Rosey or Wray. Without congress flipping the bic so to speak, then it will simply play as a political vendetta by Trump, using the DOJ to do his bidding.”


        I am 100% confident the Left will say that upholding and enforcing the Law is a political vendetta anyway.

        Why does anybody care what they say, when:

        A) the Truth is that nearly a incomprehensible amount of lawlessness has occurred


        B) it is the JOB of the DOJ to prosecute lawlessness


        C) to NOT prosecute High Treason, Subversion, Sedition and an ONGOING coup d’etat (and all the other associated crimes therein) would be such a gross miscarriage of Justice and Dereliction of Duty that the entire Trump administration should be prosecuted if they DON’T bring the traitor cabal to justice.

        This is ridiculous.

        We’re on the verge of the United States government being overthrown by a cabal of traitors, and we’re playing games of optics?

        We’re worried about how the traitors will characterize the narrative?

        It’s like the Police worrying about how bank robbers might characterize their arrest during the commission of the crime.

        Why do we continually go about this bassackwards?

        The traitors should be worried about US.

        Liked by 1 person

  25. Thecleaner says:

    Any poetry from the Bard of the Potomic (Comey) tonight…😂😂

    Liked by 4 people

  26. jmclever says:

    Since the committee is referring Mr Steele, how can dems say the referral is politically motivated without giving themselves away? Awesome strategy!

    Liked by 1 person

  27. steelbreeze7 says:

    It appears that those in our gubmint are finally growing a pair and are no longer afraid to do the right thing on behalf of the American people. Wonder who made them feel this way… emboldened. The Lion is unafraid.

    Liked by 3 people

  28. Donna in Oregon says:

    Steele is a British citizen. So the Brits are going to get involved now. This is weird too.


    • They’ve been involved for quite some time now….PM May and MI-6 know all too well we want Steele’s guts for garters….and there’s not much they can or will do to protect him at this point with all that is known about his involvement in this wretched business….look for May to publicly throw him under the bus at some point

      Liked by 3 people

  29. Boots says:

    ….and Joshua and all the people shouted, and the walls of the city came tumbling down….

    Liked by 2 people

    • Maquis says:

      I’ve been playing that song in my head for hours now!

      Well, the refrain anyways… Didn’t know the words well enough to judge it a proper fit, but I knew Pink Floyd just didn’t work here, though I do like them better…



  30. Watcher says:

    I believe Steed was just used by the fbi/doj to give the dossier credibility. He been gone from Russia a long time but was mi6 and in the Russia peddling business.
    The dossier was written by fusion, with nellys input. Others are probably coauthors also.
    The golden shower idea is just so out there that somehow it reekes of the hildabeast and her team.
    Steele is just the first step up a long and steep stairway. Zero and hildabeast are the big prize.
    Patience is a virtue.

    Liked by 6 people

  31. bill says:

    Why not take a same or similar approach with the GCHQ’s head, Robert Hannigan and CIA chief, John Brennan?

    You know the CIA lied through Brennan’s direction and we have reason to believe the GCHQ’s head did the same.

    Liked by 4 people

  32. Margaret Berger says:

    I found the olive branch frustrating because I wanted justice to be served bit I understood the wisdom of it. Think what we could have been accomplishing if they had accepted the will of the people but that has always been the rub hasn’t it? Now, he needs to go full bore take no prisoners. Clean them all out, get the out of government no converts.


  33. trialbytruth says:

    Is it possible the inconsistent information has to do with who wrote the doosier .Was it Steele or was it Ohr before or after she left her government job. Perhaps the FBI went shopping for stale already written.

    Liked by 1 person

  34. 4sure says:

    If we think the popcorn is flowing now, just wait until the trials begin. You will be pulling your hair out. If they are televised, you better do like gunny said and encircle your tv w/chicken wire.

    Liked by 2 people

  35. Mickey Wasp says:

    The best way to defeat an opponent, is to get them quarreling amongst themselves.
    Have you ever seen some athlete that gives an interview and disparages fellow players or the owner or the referees or the rules of the game from just prideful ego? I have … and one thing I’ve noticed is that, that team never gets to hoist the Lombardi Trophy, the World Series flags, the NASCAR Championship Cup, etc. And a savvy coach, manager, owner, or opposing player will exploit such negativity within the other team. Or kinda’ scratch at the scab …

    This move by Grassley and Graham is a mirrored move from our great President Trump.
    G & G know that both sides are culpable of the lies with the whole “Russia Dossier / Collusion” and are driving a wedge between all players within and without of this criminal cabal that attempted to destroy the Trump Administration in full. So, G & G get them to start pointing fingers at each other. Think … how you would feel or think if a “fellow player” was pointing fingers at you ?

    Hi Glenn and Peter, give my best to Mary and smooches to Lisa …

    Liked by 2 people

  36. H&HC 2nd-16th says:

    How do we get Clapper and Brennan to start fighting each other? The result would be stunning – regardless of which one throws the other under the bus.


  37. Scoottar says:

    Go further in the food chain. Was this legitimized as “Intelligence “ by Brennan and thus FBI had grist to then kick off all that you are writing about and uncovering??

    Liked by 1 person

    • Maquis says:

      Ugh. Evan McMullen. Anti-Trumper extrordinaire. Credibility of this article just went to zero, though it might be worth picking through for those that have the stomach for it. Not me.🤢

      Liked by 1 person

  38. scott467 says:

    “What Grassley and Graham are now doing is forcing the DOJ to reconcile the conflicts between the FBI presentations to the judiciary committee -about the origin of, and their use of, the Steele Dossier- against known evidence.

    Someone is lying.”


    Yes, and we all know that it’s the same pack of liars who have been lying all the way through this ordeal.

    What good will it do to try to ‘force’ DOJ to reconcile the conflicts?

    They won’t do it.

    Does anybody really think that any of the traitors are going to come clean and say ‘aw, shucks, you got me…’?


    They are going to lie to the bitter end.

    Sure, it’ll be fun to watch them squirm, it will be entertaining to watch them TRY to reconcile these these irreconcilable contradictions, but there’s not going to be a capitulation by the traitors.

    The bad guys are not going to do a mea culpa and spill their guts all over the committee hearings, no matter how many rhetorical head-locks or figure-4 leg-locks you put them in.

    These are professional liars and career criminals, as hardened as anyone they’ve put behind bars.

    We’re not going to get a confession or an admission of wrongdoing.

    And fortunately, these traitors were so brazen, arrogant and sloppy in their crimes, we don’t NEED one.


  39. scott467 says:

    “I hope the Department of Justice will carefully review our letter and take appropriate action,” Graham said.”


    I hope?!?

    What is this, an after school special?

    Is Grassley going to break out his own rendition of Jiminy Cricket’s “When you wish upon a star”?

    I ‘hope’ is even more passive than a ‘request’, lol!

    What is it going to take for these people — our representatives! — to make DEMANDS backed up by force, men trained in violence with the authority to kick their doors in and make arrests, as they would gladly do — with a giddyup in their jackboots — to any regular American citizen with 1/1000th of the evidence?

    Cue the cricket:


  40. mitrom says:

    Thank you Sundance for your insight and hard work. Our democracy and our way of life is at stake. If these evil and corrupt people get away with this farce, the America we know will cease to exist. I have followed this whole farce quite a bit and you are by far the most reliable and insightful site. I’m an auditor by trade and there are million red flags to show that this whole thing is a farce. But you really are perceptive to bring it all together. Thank you!

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  41. Mary Morse says:

    Here’s an earlier letter from Grassley to Comey, and another to the acting AAG (FARA complaint against fusion). Explains a lot.

    Liked by 1 person

  42. Newhere says:

    I realize that the NYT’s shameful excuse for “reporting” is, at this point, obvious and well-documented, but the article linked here provides another object lesson in how it all works:

    NYT article:
    “Republicans, including the two senators, have ARGUED that the dossier is TANTAMOUNT to political opposition research, and claimed that it might have been used by the F.B.I. to open its investigation. They have also said it might have provided the basis for key investigative actions, including a secret court-approved wiretap of a Trump campaign aide.” (emphasis in caps mine)

    No, NYT, no one needs to ARGUE the that dossier is TANTAMOUNT to opposition research — the dossier IS opposition research, and congressional members rightly are entitled (even obligated) to know its role in the FBI investigation. But the NYT uses its familiar misdirection technique of casting everything in terms of “partisanship” and then flipping the partisan angle on its head, e.g., here implying that a campaign-funded hit job is neutral intelligence, and that congress doing its job is a “partisan” tactic.

    “CURRENT AND FORMER AMERICAN AND FOREIGN OFFICIALS WITH DIRECT KNOWLEDGE OF THE INVESTIGATION SAY THE FEDERAL INQUIRY DID NOT START WITH THE DOSSIER, NOR DID IT RELY ON IT. Rather, they have said, the dossier and the F.B.I.’s discussions with Mr. Steele merely added material to what American law enforcement and spy agencies were gleaning from other sources.” (again my caps)

    Now we see why the NYT dropped its ridiculous “drunk Papadopolous” story last weekend. The implausibility and sheer oddity of this new story line never mattered, and nor did the fact that it was quickly and easily discredited among anyone paying attention — it didn’t need to be true, it just needed to not be directly and openly contradicted in a way that would require a retraction. The point was to get it published to create a predicate for every subsequent report to include the sentence in caps above. The NYT (and others) will now repeat this assertion as a settled and credible fact, counting on readers not to know, remember, or care about the basis for it. Soon it will be hardened doctrine (just like the “consensus of all 17 agencies…..”) and those who question it will be tagged the dangerous purveyors or believers of “fake news.”


  43. Lon Spector says:

    So what happens when Mueller indicts? Will there be a Constitutional crisis?
    Will Jeff Sessions, swamp dweller, come to Trumps aid? Will 65 million deplorables be saved
    from FEMA concentration camps?


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