The DOJ and FBI Worked With Fusion GPS on “Operation Trump”….

Following the released transcript of Fusion-GPS Co-Founder Glenn Simpson’s testimony to the Senate Judiciary Committee by Senator Dianne Feinstein, several media outlets have begun questioning the relationship between the FBI investigators, Glenn Simpson and dossier author Christopher Steele.

What we have discovered highlights the answer to those relationship questions; and also answers a host of other questions, including: Did the FBI pay Christopher Steele?  Yes, but now how media has stated.  Was the FBI connected to the creation of the Steele Dossier? Yes, but again, not the way the media is currently outlining.

The motive within the FBI/DOJ surveillance of the 2016 campaign of Donald Trump is simple. However, to understand how they did it – the story becomes more complex.  Some key background understanding is necessary.

♦First, to understand what took place in 2016 we must travel back to 2015 when Office of Inspector General (OIG) Michael Horowitz asked for approval to conduct oversight over the National Security Division of the Department of Justice; the DOJ-NSD.

In 2015 Inspector General Michael Horowitz was blocked by the Department of Justice from having oversight over the DOJ-NSD. In a lengthy response to the IG’s office [Full 58 page pdf HERE] Sally Yates essentially said ‘all DOJ is subject to oversight, except the National Security Division’.

♦Second, to understand how FISA is used within the intelligence community it is CRITICAL to understand that IC departments centered around National Security, such as the DOJ National Security Division, or the FBI Counterintelligence Division, may use the NSA database -and FISA enabled inquires- with considerably more leeway, and less restrictions on access and use.  In short, FISA “queries” from any national security department within government are allowed without seeking court approval.

During a recent hearing discussion between current FBI Director Christopher Wray and House Judiciary Chairman, Bob Goodlatte, the context is outlined.  WATCH:


The scale and scope of what took place in 2016 is also contingent upon understanding how the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) was being used.  Specifically how *critical* exceptions for FISA-702 “search queries”, without judicial warrants or FISA court approvals, were permitted.

In 2016 FISA-702(17) “About Queries” from legislatively authorized national security entities within the DOJ and FBI did NOT require FISA court approvals.

Remember this important fact as you continue reading.

WE BEGIN:  The recent stories about the 2016 DOJ and FBI counterintelligence investigation of the Trump campaign center around how the Christopher Steele ‘Russian Dossier’ was used by the DOJ/FBI in obtaining FISA approvals for surveillance of Trump campaign officials.

Within the “Russian Dossier” back-story everyone is familiar with the relationship between Fusion-GPS, the founder of the company, Glenn Simpson, and the author of the dossier, Christopher Steele. Additionally, the relationship between the Clinton campaign and Fusion GPS is now well known.

In/around April of 2016 the Clinton campaign hired and paid Fusion-GPS.  Team Clinton paid Fusion-GPS for information on candidate Donald Trump.  That agreement led to Fusion-GPS hiring sub-contractor Christopher Steele, which eventually led to the creation of the ‘Steele Dossier’.

Yesterday, it was reported the ‘Steele Dossier’ was used as the underlying foundation for the DOJ and FBI to seek FISA Court Approvals to monitor the communications of the Trump campaign.

In essence, as of yesterday, the FBI used Clinton opposition research -via Fusion GPS- on candidate Donald Trump, to generate surveillance authority over her political opponent.

That sounds bad; however, what we have discovered is worse.

Dates are critical because they build the circumstantial case within a story clouded by obfuscation and convenient FISA secrecy.

We know NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers became aware of an issue with unauthorized FISA-702(17) “About Queries” early in 2016.   As a result of a FISA court ruling declassified in May of 2017 we were able to piece a specific timeline together.

After Rogers discovered the FISA-702(17) “About Query” issues, the NSA Director initiated a full FISA-702 compliance review. [Full Backstory]

Watch this hearing testimony to hear Admiral Rogers explain the timeline:


At the same time Christopher Steele was assembling his dossier information (May-October 2016), the NSA compliance officer was conducting an internal FISA-702 review as initiated by NSA Director Mike Rogers.

The NSA compliance officer briefed Admiral Mike Rogers on October 20th 2016.

On October 26th 2016, Admiral Rogers informed the FISA Court of numerous unauthorized FISA-702(17) “About Query” violations.

Subsequent to that FISC notification Mike Rogers stopped all FISA-702(17) “About Queries” permanently. They are no longer permitted.

The full FISA Court Ruling on the notifications from the NSA is below. And to continue the story we are pulling out a specific section [page 83, pdfCRITICAL to understanding what was going on:

Pg 83. “FBI gave raw Section 702–acquired information to a private entity that was not a federal agency and whose personnel were not sufficiently supervised by a federal agency for compliance minimization procedures.”


Please pay close attention to this section, pg 84, [Note the date April 18th]:

Notice how it was FBI “private contractors” that were conducting the unauthorized FISA-702 Queries via access to information on FBI storage systems.

We have been tipped off that one of the FBI contractors in question was, unbelievably, Fusion-GPS.

It is almost certain this early 2016 series of FISA-702 compliance violations was the origin of NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers concern.

Mike Rogers discovery becomes the impetus for him to request the 2016 full NSA compliance audit of FISA-702 use.  It appears Fusion-GPS was the FBI contracted user identified in the final FISA court opinion/ruling on page 83.

Note the dates from the FISC opinion (above) – As soon as the FBI discovered Mike Rogers was looking at the searches, the FBI discontinued allowing their sub-contractor  access to the raw FISA information. Effective April 18th, 2016.

On April 19th, 2016, the day after the FBI stopped allowing access to the FISA database, the wife of Fusion-GPS founder Glenn Simpson, Mary B Jacoby, went to the White House.

(Link to White House Logs)

After months of prior opposition research, including what appears to be their access to FISA-702(17) “Search Queries“as a sub-contractor for the FBI, the wife of Glenn Simpson (Fusion GPS), Mary B. Jacoby, with years of Russia-angled reporting –including Donald Trump– visits the White House.

This is April 19th 2016, the day after the FBI, stopped allowing Fusion-GPS access the NSA FISA-702 database.  Immediately following this White House visit the Clinton campaign hire Fusion GPS to conduct opposition research on Donald Trump, surrounding Russia?

[The Tablet] … Simpson and Jacoby had ID’d Manafort as a world-class sleazeball and they were right. A slick Georgetown Law grad running in GOP circles since the Reagan campaign, Manafort used his talents and connections to get paid by some very bad people. I would only add here that, in my personal experience, journalists are not in the habit of forgetting major stories they’ve written, especially stories with a character like Manafort at the center.

So when the Trump campaign named Paul Manafort as its campaign convention manager on March 28, 2016, you can bet that Simpson and Jacoby’s eyes lit up. And as it happened, at the exact same time that Trump hired Manafort, Fusion GPS was in negotiations with Perkins Coie, the law firm representing the Clinton campaign and the DNC, to see if there was interest in the firm continuing the opposition research on the Trump campaign they had started for the Washington Free Beacon. (more)

This timeline is entirely too obvious.

What plan came from that April 19th,2016 White House meeting?  What plan did Mary Jacoby and Glenn Simpson present to use the information they had assembled?  How and who would they feed their information to; and how do they best use that ‘valuable’ information?

This appears to be where Fusion-GPS contracting with Christopher Steele comes in.

What happens next?

Glenn Simpson and Mary Jacoby (Fusion-GPS)  hires Nellie Ohr:

Contacted by Fox News, investigators for the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI) confirmed that Nellie H. Ohr, wife of the demoted official, Bruce G. Ohr, worked for the opposition research firm last year.

The precise nature of Mrs. Ohr’s duties – including whether she worked on the dossier – remains unclear but a review of her published works available online reveals Mrs. Ohr has written extensively on Russia-related subjects. HPSCI staff confirmed to Fox News that she was paid by Fusion GPS through the summer and fall of 2016. (link)

DOJ Deputy Bruce Ohr and his wife Nellie Ohr had a prior working relationship with Fusion-GPS founder Glenn Simpson.  Together they worked on a collaborative CIA Open Source group project surrounding International Organized Crime. (pdf here) Page #30 Screen Shot Below.

Keep in mind, AFTER April 18th, 2016, Fusion-GPS knows the NSA compliance division is reviewing all of their FISA-702(17) search “query” activity conducted while contracted by the FBI.

The Clinton campaign hired Fusion GPS (April 2016).  Fusion sub-contracted retired British MI6 agent Christopher Steele to write the opposition research report “The Trump Russia Dossier”; and they hire a former intelligence community colleague, Nellie Ohr.

Nellie Ohr is a subject matter expert on Russia, speaks Russian, and also is well versed on CIA operations. Nellie Ohr’s skills would include how to build or create counterintelligence frameworks to give the appearance of events that may be entirely fabricated.

Knowing the NSA was reviewing FISA “Queries”; and intellectually accepting the resulting information from those queries was likely part of the framework put together by Glenn Simpson and Mary Jacoby; we discover that GPS employee Nellie Ohr applied for a HAM radio license [May 23rd 2016] (screen grab below).

Now this begins to take on additional context.

Open, traceable, or monitor-able communication, would be a risk.  The same FISA-702 surveillance activity, used to gather information on the Trump campaign, could just as easily be used against the ‘scheme team’.  NSA surveillance could discover information about the people now assembling FISA data into a fraudulent construct. The goal of that construct would be to justify continued counterintelligence operations, by the FBI, toward the Trump campaign.

The last thing Glenn Simpson, Mary Jacoby, Hillary Clinton, Christopher Steele, or the FBI would want – would be traceable communication networks.  Each of these people or entities would know exactly what the monitoring capability of government is.

Accepting the FBI was utilizing Fusion-GPS as a contractor, there is now an inherent clarity in the relationship between: FBI agent Peter Strzok, Fusion-GPS Glenn Simpson, and ‘Russian Dossier’ author Christopher Steele. They are all on the same team.

The information that Fusion-GPS Glenn Simpson put together from his advanced work on the ‘Trump Project’, was, in essence, built upon the foundation of the close relationship he already had with the FBI.

Simpson, Jacoby and Ohr then passed on their information to Christopher Steele who adds his own ingredients to the mix, turns around, and gives the end product back to the FBI.   That end product is laundered intelligence now called “The Trump/Russia Dossier”.

It is a circle of intelligence information.

The FBI turn around and use the “dossier” as the underlying documents and investigative evidence for continued operations against the target of the entire enterprise, candidate Donald Trump.  As Peter Strzok would say in August 2016: this is their “insurance policy” per se’.

“I want to believe the path you threw out for consideration in Andy’s office that there’s no way he gets elected – but I’m afraid we can’t take that risk. It’s like an insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before you’re 40.”

~FBI Agent Peter Strzok to FBI Lawyer Lisa Page

In October 2016, immediately after the DOJ lawyers formatted the FBI information (Steele Dossier etc.) for a valid FISA application, the head of the NSD, Asst. Attorney General John P Carlin, left his job.  His exit came as the NSD and Admiral Rogers informed the FISC that frequent unauthorized FISA-702 searches had been conducted. Read Here.

The FISA court declassified their opinion of the DOJ and FBI conduct, in May of 2017, and that’s the way the public discovered the 2016 admissions by the DOJ, FBI and ultimately the compliance department of the NSA.

Yes, the FBI was working with Christopher Steele through their contractor Fusion-GPS.  Yes, the FBI and Clinton Team were, in essence, both paying Christopher Steele for his efforts.  The FBI paid Steele via their sub-contractor Fusion-GPS.

Lastly, when the DOJ/FBI used the Steele Dossier to make their 2016 surveillance activity legal (the October FISA application), they are essentially using the outcome of a process they created themselves in collaboration with both Fusion GPS and the Clinton campaign.

All research indicates the intelligence information the DOJ and FBI collected via their FISA-702 queries, combined with the intelligence Fusion GPS created in their earlier use of contractor access to FISA-702(17) “about queries”, was the intelligence data delivered to Christopher Steele for use in creating “The Russian Dossier”.

Christopher Steele was just laundering intelligence.  The Steele “dossier” was then used by the DOJ to gain FISA-702 approvals – which provided retroactive legal cover for the prior campaign surveillance, and also used post-election to create the “Russian Narrative”.

Ten days after the election, November 17th 2016, Admiral Rogers traveled to Trump Tower without telling ODNI James Clapper. Rogers likely informs President-elect Trump of the prior surveillance activity by the FBI and DOJ, including the likelihood that all of Trump Tower’s email and phone communication were reviewed within the FISA-702 abuse.

On November 17th, 2016, NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers went to see President-Elect Donald Trump in Trump Tower, New York.  –SEE HERE–  Director Rogers never told his boss DNI, James Clapper.

On November 18th, 2016, the Trump Transition Team announced they were moving all transition activity to Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster, New Jersey. –SEE HERE– Where they interviewed and discussed the most sensitive positions to fill.  Defense, State, CIA, ODNI.

The transition team was set up in Trump Tower. The very next day, November 18th 2016, Trump moves the entire transition team to Bedminister New Jersey.

♦Ultimately, the people within all of these unlawful intercepts of information is what Devin Nunes discovered when he looked at the “unmasking requests” which were a result of those FISA 702(17) collections on Team Trump. That’s why Devin Nunes was so stunned at what he saw in February and March 2017.

The ENTIRE SYSTEM of FISA-702 surveillance and data collection was weaponized against a political campaign.  The DOJ and FBI used the FISA Court to gain access to Trump data, and simultaneously justify earlier FISA “queries” by their contractor, Fusion GPS.  FISA-702 queries were used to gather information on the Trump campaign which later became FBI counterintelligence surveillance on the officials therein.

President Trump is 100% correct!


IG Stimulated Releases of Information:

♦Release #1 was the FBI Agent Strzok and Attorney Lisa Page story; and the repercussions from discovering their politically motivated bias in the 2015/2016 Clinton email investigation and 2016/2017 Russian Election investigation.

♦Release #2 outlined the depth of FBI Agent Strzok and FBI Attorney Page’s specific history in the 2016 investigation into Hillary Clinton to include the changing of the wording [“grossly negligent” to “extremely careless”] of the probe outcome delivered by FBI Director James Comey.

♦Release #3 was the information about DOJ Deputy Bruce Ohr being in contact with Fusion GPS at the same time as the FISA application was submitted and granted by the FISA court; which authorized surveillance and wiretapping of candidate Donald Trump; that release also attached Bruce Ohr and Agent Strzok directly to the Steele Dossier.

♦Release #4 was information that Deputy Bruce Ohr’s wife, Nellie Ohr, was an actual contract employee of Fusion GPS, and was hired by F-GPS specifically to work on opposition research against candidate Donald Trump. Both Bruce Ohr and Nellie Ohr are attached to the origin of the Christopher Steele Russian Dossier.

♦Release #5 was the specific communication between FBI Agent Strzok and FBI Attorney Page. The 10,000 text messages that included evidence of them both meeting with Asst. FBI Director Andrew McCabe to discuss the “insurance policy” against candidate Donald Trump in August of 2016.

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1,550 Responses to The DOJ and FBI Worked With Fusion GPS on “Operation Trump”….

  1. One of Glenn Simpson’s statements in his recently released testimony is that they were told by the FBI that there was a mole inside the Trump Campaign. The question, immediately, was why would the FBI relate that information? Well, because Fusion was a subcontractor for the FBI. So the FBI and the Clinton Campaign are directly responsible for the “insurance policy”.

    How is allowing an FBI subcontractor access to highly classified About Query searches legal? Is this why Rogers shut it down?

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    • Good Job! says:

      He didn’t say that. He first said Steele thought the FBI had its own source. He later said in the testimony Steele said the FBI sounded knowledgable and guessed at another source.

      A few days ago prolly with his lawyer’s uninformed backing Someone close to Simpson tried to tie this testimony to the fake news “revelation” that the investigation began with Papdopolus. Why? He’s grasping.


      • jbowen82 says:

        It’s likely that someone was lying. The FBI may have been lying to Steele. Or Steele may have been lying to Simpson. Or Simpson may have been lying to Congress. Everybody in that chain wants there to have been a corroborating source, because the alternative is that the dossier is all there was.


        • Good Job! says:

          The FBI agent may have said something non-committal…”I think we heard that too.”

          If it is the “pee’ memo story specific, Ohr could have heard it from McMullin’s proteges, gave her “pee” memo or data to Steele, he showed it to the FBI, but the FBI already heard the story from the proteges of McMullin by other avenue.

          A lot of these people are lying because they know the dossier is fake from the beginning. It was only meant to get a warrant or two and convince at least one journalist to publish it before the election. The 4channers who say they made up the “pee” story knew about it and claimed as there creation one week before the election.

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      • brenrod says:

        simpson lawyer said later it was papadopolous… a human source not a mole… the lawyer said it was the aussie who brought it to them about papadop


    • covfefe999 says:

      IIRC, Simpson used the term “whistleblower”.


      • Good Job! says:

        If there is a “whistle blower” it certainly isn’t Papadoufus.

        The Papadoofus story was the New York Times at last realising the Dossier was fake and trying to create an alternative origin story for the investigation from inside Trump, and not inside the FBI.

        Papdoofus doesn’t know anything except he copied what millions of people were saying about the Russians maybe having Hillary’s missing emails, something the dumb Australian never heard about.


    • Because You'd Be In Jail says:

      Is CrowdStrike also an FBI subcontractor? It would help explain Comey’s relying on their determination that the DNC was “hacked” instead of the FBI doing it’s own investigation. Also keep in mind that during the summer ex-spooks did a forensics and concluded that the DNC information was leaked by an insider and not “hacked”.


    • daizeez says:

      I’d sure be interested in knowing what kind of information certain government subcontractors are allowed to have access to and who approves it.


  2. recoverydotgod says:

    Wow! What a story. What a scoop, Sundance.

    If anyone was trying to get a scoop out before you, it seemed like that was Diane Feinstein releasing the Glenn Simpson transcript. Instead, that came across not making any sense.

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  3. concerned citizen bonaparte says:

    Mr. Sundance,

    I must confess when I read the post about the Jacoby visit to the white house lasting 14 hours (when you posted it awhile ago) I thought you were totally and completely bananas. But I was so fascinated that I got addicted to this like a crackhead. You, sir, just blew my mind. Stay safe and alive.

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  4. freddy says:

    We have guys here way over the edge and off the cliff. We have Hillary zealots. As a man you get no lower in life. These guys went with their women to become saviors and warriors to protect from us… Are you kidding we only voted to keep a criminal cabal out of power. Never forget these FBI clowns were after you too. They are so deranged on hillary losing they became dangerous. Watch your neighbors and friends this is a bad strain of virus….

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  5. NJF says:

    Hannity has Sara Carter coming up and more.

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    • Tegan says:

      Njf….please explain..sorry, i’m Not getting your post.


      • churchmouse says:

        Possibly this:

        Sara Carter’s article (and excerpt):

        ‘Multiple sources told this reporter that the dossier was used along with other evidence to obtain the warrant from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, known as FISC. The sources also stressed that there will be more information in the coming week regarding systemic “FISA abuse.”

        ‘“(The dossier) certainly played a role in obtaining the warrant,” added another senior U.S. official, with knowledge of the dossier. “Congress needs to look at the FBI officials who were handling this case and see what, if anything, was verified in the dossier. I think an important question is whether the FBI paid anything to the source for the dossier.”

        ‘On Wednesday, Sean Hannity said he has also independently confirmed that the dossier was used to obtain the FISA (Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act) warrant from three separate sources.’


  6. Katherine McCoun says:

    So, did Sundance just prove that the infamous Russian/Trump collusion dossier was developed from info found in US data bases v. nefarious Russian, Ukraine or Brit sources?

    Was the sources the info to Russian sources a cover up for info that came from within the US government, US data bases, the FBI and DOJ, and running it through Fussion and Steele was just a way to get the same info out that was seen and known within the FBI and DOJ and the Obama administration but without admitting that they had obtained the info illegally? Because they couldn’t let the US voters and citizens know *how* they *knew* this information? So, they routed it to appear to come from other sources?

    But that leaves the information itself. If the info came from queries, from US NSA data bases, from illegally spying on US citizens and is treasonous, etc., does that mean it was all based on facts after all? Illegally obtained, treasonously obtained, politically motivated, politically using the power of the fed gov against a political enemy and so much more — all shameful, criminal and disastrous for us.

    But does this mean the info was accurate and true if it is info that was gathered from data bases?

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    • Katherine McCoun says:

      Has the origin of the info proven that the info was true and accurate even while proving that the gathering of that info was illegal spying, treasonous, etc.?

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      • Blue Moon says:

        I asked the same thing down thread. Appears this info was in databases but what do I know.


      • Teah Lee says:

        Guys, guys. You’re missing it. The info they got was for their other day job as oppo researchers. Remember, they were hired by one or more of the Republican primary candidates as well as the DNC and Hilliary to do oppo research. It had nothing to do with Russia. Russiagate/the “Dossier” is the cover story they had to come up with to cover their butts on using the NSA database for their oppo research on DOMESTIC PERSONS without a warrant.

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      • You’ve never actually read the pee pee dossier, have you? Nothing in it is true. It appears to have been written by a 14 year old boy. It is laughable fan fiction.


    • Gary Hunt says:

      If it was provable, they would have used it. Most likely conjecture.


    • Suncc49 says:

      Remember the main premise of the dossier was that Trump was blackmailable due to the piss fan fiction with hookers…


    • BakoCarl says:

      From the queries you can get facts, also who was talking to who and when and how long and how many times. Then you can distort facts or make new ones up, then draw false conclusions that aid your story and may lead into or support some of the things that Steele put into the dossier. Remember, with Hillary elected, none of this comes out, and with Trump elected, they were counting on the cooperating offices of the FBI and DOJ to keep it buried.

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      • Katherine McCoun says:

        Thank you all for replying. I have been reading some articles from Jan, 16 about what was in the dossier and it is weak.

        Considering all of the spying they did, President Trump is Boy Scout clean (old school Boy Scouts!) because they found nothing despite treasonous and illegal spying with all of the tools at the disposal of the Obama Administration.

        And that is where I lay the responsibility. This is an Obama Administration scandal. Not just the DNC/Hillary, not just the FBI and its many players, not just the DOJ and its cheating lawyers, not just Clapper, Rice or Powers. The Obama Administration.

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        • Tegan says:

          The Obama Administration…would love for that EO about seizing assets to be applied! Maybe that’s what O has been spending so much time overseas.

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        • deqwik2 says:

          My guess is that there is 2 separate parts to this spying & dossier coup.

          They were spying on all of Trump team so people like Manafort, Page & Flynn were caught up in it. The SC may have used some of the “truth” to bring charges against Manafort & to trick Flynn but since they couldn’t get anything on Trump, they had to make up some stories.

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        • ARW says:

          My 2 cents, especially since Comey testified none of it was verifiable…fusion the FBI subcontractor found nothing on the queries. However, fusion the HRC subcontractor made up all kinds of stuff.

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        • doofusdawg says:

          yep…but who in the trump camp was stupid enough to bring in manafort.

          And everyone assumes that it was Bush who originally hired Fusion… but Bush was outside the government while Fusion was an alleged contractor to doj.

          Doesn’t McCain make more sense.


    • No. The factual elements: who was where and when – came from the illegal “About” queries. The rest was made up and then Fusion cycled the dossier through the intelligence community so they could release it to the press as being “investigated”. For example, the “dossier” claims that “Donald Trump hired prostitutes to urinate on the bed that Obama slept in” during a trip to Russia. Pres Trump actually was in Russia at a meeting at that time. That is factual. The rest of the story about that incident is garbage.

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    • Joe S says:

      I think the point that Sundance is making is that Fusion was using the queries for info that was not NatSec related and that is why Rogers shut it down, and that is why Nunes freaked and held a press conference saying that the info was not NatSec related.


    • Somebody says:

      Interesting thought Katherine. You can take disparate facts and weave them into a tale of fiction if you have a mind to. You could take innocent business transactions and make them sound sinister for example.

      I’m curious if the digging turned up the reddit guys little work of fiction., if in fact they are telling the truth about having written a golden shower tale. If it didn’t come from reddit then my money is on creative writing major Ben Rhoades.

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    • Good Job! says:

      No. There is no evidence that Fusion GPS’ access to govt data bases has anything to do with what’s really in the “Dossier” other than maybe some Manafort earlier dealings.

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    • SmilinJackAbbott says:

      How many times have your heard a Democrat or CNN(same thing) say parts of the dossier are verified, eg some interaction between Russians happened? What if those parts came from the FBI in the 1st place? They have nothing to do with collusion but lend credibility to the rest of Steele’s garbage.


      • Katherine McCoun says:

        Taking something that is nothing and spinning it into something – innocent or routine communications and spinning into something sinister? Sounds like the msm!
        Also, just shows that there was nothing actually wrong. I took some time to read what was in the dossier and it was very weak with little actual content specific to President Trump, dates and accusations. Some was just assessment on relations, for example.


    • brenrod says:

      sounds right, and thars probably how they made the cohn error…. they sprinkled in a few facts to give credibility like most intel scams


  7. Gary Hunt says:

    Would love to hear from administrative staff in CIA/FBI/DNI about reactions when it was discovered that Rogers knew what they had done. Picturing Brennan/Clapper/Comey bouncing off the walls in hysterical rage trying to figure out how to stop Rogers…but is was too late. Priceless.

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  8. d2i says:

    If your tipster is reading comments, all I can say is THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!

    Outstanding work, sundance and team. Applause, heck STANDING OVATION!!!

    Keep it coming…

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  9. NJF says:


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  10. Sundance, thank you for everything!

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  11. Concerned Virginian says:

    Am rereading the AMAZING article by Sundance and the TERRIFIC comments by TCH family.
    If I missed something, I apologize, but am I correct in thinking that there is direct evidence that Hillary Clinton HERSELF either knew or of approved of: the hiring of Steele; the payment of Steele/Fusion-GPS people; the writing of the fake dossier; and the dissemination of the fake dossier, including its apparent reading by Obama?
    And if any, let alone ALL. of the above are true, how long do you think it will take for BILL CLINTON to throw Hillary under the bus to save his own skin?

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  12. covfefe999 says:

    Didn’t Simpson, in his testimony (released by the ever-helpful Diane Feinstein), say he owns or owned multiple businesses? I want to know if any of the names fit well with the redacttions in the FISC opinion. Anyone care to join me?

    Simpson testimony:

    FISC opinion in pdf format:


  13. kurt72 says:

    Are Republicans retiring in order to flip the House so they can impeach Trump?? And are they being paid to do this? By whom?

    Liked by 3 people

    • El Torito says:

      Odd question – what makes you think that just because a R retires that automatically a D is elected to replace him? I don’t get that at all.


      • bessie2003 says:

        This is certainly something to consider, GOPe’s being given financial or other incentives to retire, since trillions of dollars are at stake, that kind of money, and power, and control which has been slowly being pulled together over a few decades leading to their new world order, would not be a thing easily given up.


      • churchmouse says:

        Because several previously Red states are now Purple.


  14. jso72 says:

    Mind Blown! Thank you & God Bless!

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  15. Pam says:

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  16. Nigella says:

    Be nice if the “media” would cover this… I know.. A girl can dream…

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  17. tommyd22 says:

    All this make one wonder what the actual “Real” vote tally was in the 2016 general..
    Trump had only one card to play in the entire deck, that was the genuine American voter.

    Liked by 18 people

    • formerdem says:

      Trump beat 16 other nominees, Hillary, the DNC, the NYT and WaPo and other legacy media, Hollywood, the FBI, the CIA, the GCHQ, Wall Street….. and he spent less than Hillary. He had one card to play, and he is much smarter than all the above put together. Incredible.

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  18. RAC says:

    3 . ____ .4
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    Generally when joining the dots it turns out to be a giraffe or some such, got something different today.

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  19. Pam says:

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  20. d2i says:

    Here is an article written by Scott Ritter debunking the silliness of the recent NYT pieces suggesting Papadopolous meeting with Austrian fella was the impetus for the alleged FISA ‘warrant’. He does a great job ripping the narrative apart –

    It looks like he got some pleasure doing so…

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  21. Deborah @UnTamedInSD says:

    Sundance – Question

    Where/how/when does John McCain fit in all this?

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  22. floridawoman4trump says:

    Great work, Sundance! Truly awesome, thank you and God Bless.

    Liked by 1 person

  23. flowerbelle says:

    Everything needs to be declassified now.
    Prime time address with someone in the White House who can lay this out for the nation with graphics and charts. The media colluded in this. They will never report it accurately.

    Liked by 8 people

    • Niagara Frontier says:

      I understand your sentiments about a big White House production, but the public disclosures are best handled by prosecutors skilled with dealing with the media in high profile cases.

      One has to be very cautious when talking about pending cases. The left is already accusing the White House of using the DOJ/FBI to seek retribution against political enemies.

      Many verdicts have been overturned because of pre-trial misconduct, even if it’s purely unintentional. It’s especially problematic here because of the overlap of witnesses and defendants.

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  24. jetstream says:

    Your instincts and doggedness to reveal the truth are impeccable, Sundance. Thank you so very much.

    To understand the scope of access to the raw data, here are the 17 agencies that make up the US intelligence community:
    1.Office of the Director of National Intelligence
    2.Central Intelligence Agency
    3.National Security Agency
    4.Defense Intelligence Agency
    5.Federal Bureau of Investigation
    6.Department of State – Bureau of Intelligence and Research
    7.Department of Homeland Security – Office of Intelligence and Analysis
    8.Drug Enforcement Administration – Office of National Security Intelligence
    9.Department of the Treasury – Office of Intelligence and Analysis
    10.Department of Energy – Office of Intelligence and Counterintelligence
    11.National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency
    12.National Reconnaissance Office
    13.Air Force Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance
    14.Army Military Intelligence
    15.Office of Naval Intelligence
    16.Marine Corps Intelligence
    17.Coast Guard Intelligence

    We know that these seventeen agencies have total access to the raw data and suspect that the Five Eyes alliance does as well, but there are other intelligence sharing arrangements at some level with even more countries. It appears our data is accessible to an essentially worldwide network of information sharing countries.

    The Five Eyes (FVEY) alliance using the ECHELON intelligence sharing network:
    1.United States
    2.United Kingdom
    5.New Zealand
    The Nine Eyes Partnership expands some (unknown) level of intelligence sharing with Denmark, France, the Netherlands, and Norway.
    The Fourteen Eyes which adds Belgium, Germany, Italy, Spain, and Sweden for some level of intelligence sharing, and even further expands to include a Forty-One Eyes Group.

    The unrolled thread from DaveNYviii (link below) discusses
    …H.R. 4478 FISA Amendments Reauthorization Act of 2017 and
    …H.R. 1424 USA RIGHTS Act
    as possible legislation that would fix this corrupt system (that we will never ever be rid of). Reading some of the correction provisions of these bills (links to bills are provided in thread) gives a clue as to how bad the system is and the extent of its corruption.

    Liked by 5 people

  25. disgustedwithjulison says:

    So…who brings ’em in? We have learned that our congress critters will saber-rattle at best, Sessions has recused from “all Russia”, what is left of the DOJ/FBI may be friends or acquantances and though they may be white hats….they don’t want to string up their black hat friends….

    This leaves the military. Is this serious enough for military tribunals? Is this why there have been some high profile trips (Mattis, Sessions, etc.) to Gitmo? Is our military going to step in and straighten this out? Under what authority does the military have to straighten things out?


    • rf121 says:

      None. This is a domestic issue.

      Just because PT is in power does not make it ok to use the military in that way. Would you have been happy if Obozo had used the military as you suggest?

      Liked by 2 people

      • disgustedwithjulison says:

        I agree with you….but it seems like all of the domestic issue people are conflicted or looking the other way. It really is a cluster….


  26. Deborah @UnTamedInSD says:

    Donna Brazill and her Book tossing Hillary under the DNC financial bus is making a whole lot more sense now…..

    Liked by 2 people

  27. D. Manny says:

    No, it wasn’t Fusion GPS. It was CrowdStrike…..

    How do I know? Because CrowdStrike would have to have a top secret clearance since they were already working for the FBI.

    2015-07-25* Obama’s FBI hires CrowdStrike.

    Whoever it was had a top secret clearance, because otherwise, the FISA Court would have had no choice but to shut down the entire FISA operation and cut them off cold turkey.

    Liked by 1 person

    • D. Manny says:

      Because the minimization requirement requires that only those who need to know are the ones who know. But despite the fact the issue was under judicial review, the Court continued to give them an extension, which means there was no material divergence from the requirements.


    • thesavvyinvester says:

      OMG, 40 days after the “Escalator Ride”, this goes all the way to the top. They must have known in their gut he had a chance. They are all thick as thieves…

      Liked by 3 people

    • Muthaucker says:

      Ohr’s wife had a TS. Ohr’s wife was FusionGPS.


    • Because You'd Be In Jail says:

      CrowdStrike could help explain why the FBI relied on them to analyze the DNC’s computer network and determine that it was “hacked” by the Russians, when it should seem customary for the FBI to do their own investigation. The alleged “hacking” of the DNC has also been purported to have actually been an insider leak and not a hack.


      • Donna in Oregon says:

        If CrowdStrike is a subcontractor, they are supposed to be audited. They have a contract and that contract must be followed. The procedures and the document preservation would be part of the employment contract. Must follow ISO-9000/9001 at the very least.

        There is no reason why CrowdStrike could not produce the DNC server data and findings to the DOJ.


    • thedoc00 says:

      A Top Secrete can be expedited and it depends who controls the TS investigation, routing of request and approvals. Given the horse power of the individuals involved Fusion GPS could have been awarded necessary clearance in a very short time fram. So, it still could have been Fusion GPS.


      • bunkers says:

        Or more likely, Fusion GPS staff didn’t have the requisite TS clearances and that is why they had to bring in people like Nellie Ohr who (presumably) did.


  28. Blue Moon says:

    So, was the “information” true? Are you saying info is true and they obtained it illegally?


  29. G3 says:

    ‘Not even a smidgen of corruption’—— Ooooooohhh, that’s just not true. Every moment has been fraud.

    Liked by 3 people

  30. Hugh Hewitt said this morning “a couple of Rogue agents” at the FBI did this. I guess he needs his check from MSNBC to pay his mortgage in Northern Virginia. What a load of crap. This goes to the TOP the very TOP. Obama is such a vain reckless villain; he had to get revenge against; Not DJT, but the American people. A firing squad would be too kind. Maybe Rocket boys method would suit him?

    Liked by 2 people

  31. Patriott says:

    After knowing all this, why do I feel that Hillary got the money from DOJ/FBI to pay Fusion GPS.


  32. auscitizenmom says:

    How about that? A real documented conspiracy.

    Liked by 4 people

  33. TrustyHaste says:

    If the people in these photos, and I mean all of them, are not brought to trial and put in prison, I will not rest. Nothing short of that should satisfy any of us. CTH, we MUST have Justice. I am a peaceful person, but we MUST have trials, decisions, punishment. In the coming days, I expect to see this happening. I am tired of seeing all the joking and laughing about this.

    Liked by 3 people

  34. Authur Simms says:

    Will they (FBI, DOJ) assassinate the president?


    • Donna in Oregon says:

      Yes, thru the CIA…..grassy knoll. We will have to wait 50 years to see the few remaining redacted documents.

      I plan on being with God by then….


  35. DJ says:

    Ultimate case of parallel construction, eh?


  36. Founding Fathers Fan says:

    You’ve amassed a lot of information. Where is it leading?

    Liked by 1 person

  37. Kathy M Pruitt says:

    Thank You Sundance !! Been reading daily trying to bring all this info together and you rounded it all up for me!!


  38. The Devilbat says:

    Singing was reportedly heard coming from inside FBI headquarters. It went something like this, “Jeepers Creepers, where’d ya get those Treepers?
    Jeepers Creepers, Sundance exposed my lies.”

    Liked by 7 people

  39. Covfefe-USA says:

    Sundance, where do you think the Judge Contreras recusal fits in?


  40. basedmaga45 says:

    “Drain The Swamp” went from “Hokey” to profectic! Under budget ahead of schedule!

    Liked by 2 people

  41. LibertyONE says:

    Sundance, GREAT work & analysis as usual. Although one needs a scorecard to follow this debacle, you would need the greatest movie script writer’s & producers to make a movie out of this and then no one would believe it or just call it fiction. Sadly, it’s ALL true…diabolical EVIL!

    Liked by 1 person

  42. BlueCollarPR says:

    Was the judge who issued the FISA warrant the same judge who rejected it before the Dossier?
    Did Strock present the warrant with Dossier to the judge?
    Was the judge who accepted Mike Flynn’s plea the same judge?


  43. joeknuckles says:

    GOPe and Dems all knew about the spying. Anybody who went on the record guaranteeing Trump would not be president knew about it, that’s why they felt so certain.

    Liked by 1 person

  44. brenrod says:

    I beleive this cabal fabricated the dossier themselves and got steele to collaborate and having it appear that steele and others did it.. I believe it was completely a home made job.. making it look like foreigners brought it… but it was already in their hand because it was all created here. Mccain was in on it early and was part of the fraud of making it appear like it came from others outside… a total inside job and steele was paid to say he compile it.

    Liked by 1 person

    • NJF says:

      On hannity’s radio show today Gregg Jarrett read parts of the Simpson transcript, in particular the part where he’s asked “were you able to verify the information outlined in the dossier?”

      Jarrett replied, after 3 pages of parcel tongue Simpson says “well we replied on the reputation of Steele as confirmation.”

      Many have speculated that was the reason to bring in Steele, and they were right.

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  45. trapper says:

    Great work. So, let me get this straight. In summary, on March 9, 2016, DOJ oversight personnel discovered that the FBI was disclosing raw FISA information to the FBI’s subcontractor Fusion GPS, and that Fusion GPS was conducting the 702 queries. So, some questions:

    1- For how long prior to March 9, 2016, had Fusion GPS been conducting 702 queries, or otherwise gaining access to raw FISA information?
    2- If Fusion GPS was a subcontractor, who was the contractor?
    3- Since Fusion GPS has turned over its bank records, who were they receiving money from during this period, in an attempt to identify their contractor?
    4- Was Fusion GPS a true subcontractor, or were FBI payments being laundered through a cut-out to hide FBI’s relationship with Fusion GPS?
    5- How many other outside contractors had access to the raw FISA information, and for what purposes? Who were they, how did they get that access? Who vetted them? What were the security clearances of all involved?
    6- In what form was the raw data provided to Fusion GPS? Was it provided to Fusion GPS at FBI/DOJ facilities, and if not then how was it transmitted to Fusion GPS? Was all the information in digital form? Did it include recordings and transcripts? Was Fusion GPS just “calling in” 702 requests? “Send me everything NSA has on Paul Manafort?” for example?
    7- Who from Fusion GPS was receiving the raw data? Was Glenn Simpson the person the information was provided to?


  46. bill says:

    New Headline For You Sundance
    All Of Muelller’s Indictments Reversed Because Of Tainted Evidence!

    Liked by 1 person

  47. hardworkingsob says:

    Good to be mad. Better to be heard… copy/paste/send!!!!
    Dear Congressperson Limpwrist,

    I am contacting you to express my concern on a matter, that if proven accurate, is possibly the greatest political crime in U.S. history. Thanks to the investigative efforts of both citizen journalists and oversight representatives in Congress, there is compelling evidence now that suggests that the senior leadership of Obama’s FBI/CIA/DOJ, conspired to prevent the election of (and once elected, remove from office) President Trump. Consistent with a pattern of protecting Hillary Clinton from prosecution during the 2016 election, these same individuals, carried out a plan (aka “insurance policy”) to illegally surveil and entrap candidate Trump and his associates.

    In the same way that the country came together after 911, this is a time for both Democrats and Republicans to set aside their political differences and any feelings they may have about President Trump. These potential crimes represent a domestic threat to this country and so I’m reminding you today of the oath you took to protect this nation. History is being recorded. I hope you’ll join fellow patriots in making sure this corruption never happens again by demanding full exposure and prosecuting those responsible to the fullest extent of the law. Sincerely


  48. thinkthinkthink says:

    USAWatchdog verifies some of the juicy details with another different source.
    Would love for this info to be true…


  49. recoverydotgod says:

    Oh lordy! Perhaps they should update that secret sauce recipe.

    ‘Journalism for rent’: Inside the secretive firm behind the Trump dossier
    By Jack Gillum and Shawn Boburg
    December 11, 2017


    Fusion declined to comment on specific cases or identify clients, but said in a statement that it is “proud of our methodology and the rigor of our research, amply demonstrated by the records cited by The Washington Post. They show what we’ve always stated: Our secret sauce is diligent and exhaustive analysis of public information.”


    Liked by 1 person

    • thinkthinkthink says:

      Triggering my confirmation bias again.
      Do you smell a rat?


    • churchmouse says:

      Excellent article (even if WaPo). Thanks for the link.

      Early on in:

      ‘Fusion GPS bills itself as a corporate research firm, but in many ways it operates with the secrecy of a spy agency. No sign marks its headquarters above a coffee shop in Northwest Washington. Its website consists of two sentences and an email address. Its client list is closely held.’


      ‘The firm has played an unseen role in stories that dominated headlines in recent years.’

      Note the mention of federal agencies:

      ‘Fusion assigned code names to the projects — many of them after cities in Texas and Maine — and avoided identifying its clients in internal documents, making it difficult to determine who was paying for the research. The firm also minimized its public footprints by paying outside contractors to collect public records from courthouses, police stations and federal agencies.’

      On Simpson:

      ‘Fusion founder Glenn Simpson, an accomplished former investigative reporter with expertise digging into financial crimes and corruption in Russia and elsewhere, left the Wall Street Journal in 2009 to start a research firm with Susan Schmidt, a two-time Pulitzer Prize winner from The Post. Without Schmidt, Simpson created Fusion GPS the following year, teaming up with former Wall Street Journal editor Peter Fritsch and a former Treasury official.

      ‘“I call it journalism for rent,” Simpson, 53, said in August of last year at the Double Exposure Investigative Film Festival and Symposium in the District, where he described Fusion’s work on a panel titled, “Investigations With an Agenda.”’


  50. Mrenvelope says:

    Maybe they are all Russian assets to get Hillary elected


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