A Political Battle Over Dossiers, FISA Warrants and Surveillance, Clouds A Much Bigger Story…

There is a lot of news amid national headlines but there is only one story. Unfortunately, that story is a complex multidimensional matrix of politics, law enforcement corruption, the DC swamp, and vested interests attempting to hide and manipulate facts, ie. The Russian Election/Collusion Story.

What I am going to introduce today is how the 2016 FISA-702(16)(17) data and surveillance activity issues; and the 2016 FISA Court applications for surveillance and search warrants; and the Christopher Steele (Fusion GPS) Russian Dossier; and the individual actions by DOJ, FBI and IC officials; all connect within the targeted political weaponization of government.

As many of you are aware we have been chasing and researching the fact-trail of this story for over a year. In my opinion this is the biggest story in our lifetime as it relates to government officials, specifically DOJ and FBI leadership, weaponizing their offices to retain political power for their ideological allies. Taken in totality it is a very troubling story. Nonetheless THAT STORY exists regardless of our discomfort.

Additionally, in the downstream aftermath, there are two political forces facing off amid the aggregate “Russian Election/Collusion Story”. One side is trying to find out the details behind the origin therein; the other side is trying to hide the origin therein. When we look at the reason for hiding the origin of the Russian narrative, we enter the rabbit hole of previous intelligence community activity and their weaponization of government.

Yesterday President Trump signed an executive memorandum for the Director of National Intelligence that forces the DNI to develop a responsive plan for any inquiry from a non-public entity about their information being swept up in intelligence gathering operations. Also yesterday, Representative Ron DeSantis wrote a letter to House Speaker Paul Ryan requesting Ryan declassify all documents surrounding the Steele Dossier and its use therein.

Both of yesterdays actions appear connected to the larger battle within the back-story.

If you have not followed the prior research about how NSA Director Admiral Rogers responded to his discoveries in 2016 you might be lost in this discussion. –SEE HERE

This outline builds on that prior research and exposes specific individuals who participated in the scheme.

IMPORTANT – We are no longer taking it for granted a FISA warrant was ever given to the DOJ because NO-ONE can prove a FISA warrant exists. Heck, no-one can even point to anything that directly claims a FISA warrant was even requested.  There are inferences, suspicions, media reports based on anonymous leaks, but no direct or reasonable evidence beyond innuendo.  We are eighteen months past the reported origination dates, and there’s not a single official who will state a 2016 FISA warrant was applied for or granted.  Therefore we must begin to question that basic assumption.

That said, the inability to prove the existence of a FISA warrant does not prove a FISA warrant doesn’t exist. Additionally, the cloud-of-uncertainty conveniently, perhaps purposely, makes it challenging to outline the liars within the intelligence community.

When it comes to questions around the 2016 DOJ/FBI FISA warrant – A key approach to finding the truth is to apply the scientific method during the research; question our underlying assumptions and reverse the hypothesis.

Example: Can we prove the non-existence of the FISA warrant?

  • Well, there is direct and attributable, evidence no FISA warrant existed.
  • And there is no direct, and attributable, evidence a FISA warrant did exist.

However, the absence of evidence is not evidence of its absence. Just because we cannot prove a FISA Warrant exists doesn’t prove the non-existence of the FISA Warrant; which, as you will see, is a critical piece of this puzzle.

It is important, heck, critical, to underscore that all of the currently available evidence indicates that TWO intelligence units participated in the majority of the illegal activity surrounding the 2016 Trump Operation: ♦The Department of Justice National Security Division (DOJ-NSD), and the ♦FBI Counterintelligence Division.

If you have read the prior explanation about compartmented intelligence, and how the process was used to hide illegal intelligence activity, you will more easily connect-the-dots on who/how this was strategically used.

On March 20th 2017 FBI Director James Comey testified to congress. During that congressional testimony James Comey was asked why the FBI Director did not inform congressional oversight, senior leadership, about the counterintelligence operation that began in July 2016.

FBI Director Comey said he did not tell congressional oversight he was investigating presidential candidate Donald Trump because the Director of Counterintelligence, W.H. “Bill” Priestap suggested he not do so. *Very important detail.*

FBI Director James Comey is stating on the record that the FBI Counterintelligence Operation was happening without oversight, and that lack of oversight was intentional.  *Important Detail*

However, for the sake of this review pay attention to his remarks about the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, or DNI.

WATCH the first three minutes:

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Notice how Director Comey avoids mentioning the 2016 DNI James Clapper.  Clapper was DNI throughout President Obama’s tenure and was DNI during the 2016 counterintelligence operation that James Comey and Bill Priestap intentionally kept hidden from congress.

The obfuscation about James Clapper might not seem like a big deal, and almost everyone missed it at the time, however in hindsight it is another critical part of the evidence against James Comey.

IF THERE WAS a FISA Warrant issued against the Trump Campaign, or Trump Officials, by the FBI (Counterintelligence Unit), or DOJ (National Security Division), James Clapper would have to be notified of it.

Now, let’s look at what happens when James Clapper is questioned about the FISA Warrant, as he explains on NBC March 5th 2017.  This is TWO WEEKS BEFORE the James Comey testimony to congress on March 20th.

Pay close attention to the exact wording Clapper uses, and the thought he puts into explaining himself.

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Watch it Again. Closely.

There’s no ambiguity in James Clapper in that March 5th 2017 interview.  He can specifically deny any FISA Warrant for Trump Tower, Campaign Officials, or Trump Campaign HQ.

That interview is so critical to Clapper personally – when questioned about FISA Warrants and Wiretaps six months later, September 24th 2017, he refers the questioning back to his NBC answer on March 5th, 2017.

Again, Watch Closely:

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Do ya think that earlier answer and conversation was parsed carefully between March 5th and September 24th?

Title III requires Federal, state and, other government officials to obtain judicial authorization for intercepting “wire, oral, and electronic” communications such as telephone conversations and e-mails. It also regulates the use and disclosure of information obtained through authorized wiretapping. 18 U.S.C. §§ 2516-18.

An exception to the requirement that government obtain a warrant before intercepting covered communications is provided where:

  • “any investigative or law enforcement officer, specially designated by the Attorney General, the Deputy Attorney General, the Associate Attorney General, or by the principal prosecuting attorney of any State or subdivision thereof acting pursuant to a statute of that State…
  • reasonably determines that an emergency situation exists that involves
    1. immediate danger of death or serious physical injury to any person,
    2. conspiratorial activities threatening the national security interest, or
    3. conspiratorial activities characteristic of organized crime

    that requires a wire, oral, or electronic communication to be intercepted before an order authorizing such interception can, with due diligence, be obtained, and

  • there are grounds upon which an order could be entered under this chapter to authorize such interception.”

In such an emergency situation, the Federal government may begin intercepting communications, provided “an application for an order approving the interception is made in accordance with this section within forty-eight hours after the interception has occurred, or begins to occur.” In this situation, if the warrant is ultimately denied, the intercepted communications are treated as having been obtained in violation of Title III. 18 U.S.C. § 2518(7).  (LINK)

Within this entire enterprise of spying on the Trump Campaign there is no “wiretapping” per se’ because EVERYTHING is being collected by NSA.  The issue is: can you legally “look at” what is already being collected?

That’s where Admiral Mike Rogers comes in because he discovered political operatives were LOOKING AT IT.  Hence, his report to the FISC about FISA-702(17) violations.

Again, all research indicates the DOJ National Security Division (John P Carlin) and FBI Counterintelligence Division (W.H. “Bill” Priestap) were the two DOJ organizations operating in concert with Fusion-GPS and Christopher Steele while simultaneously carrying out the prior known surveillance activity.  Any FISA Warrant stemming from these two entities would have to pass the desk of ODNI James Clapper.

If a FISA Wiretap warrant is factually discovered, against the backdrop of James Clapper stating EMPHATICALLY no Title III FISA Wiretap warrant existed, how would that conflict be resolved?

Additionally, the internal issues with FISA-702(16)(17) unauthorized “About Query” searches being conducted and discovered in 2016 by NSA Director Admiral Rogers, would lend even greater weight to the DOJ-NSD and FBI CoIntel as the origin.  SEE HERE.

We know the FBI Counterintelligence Operation against the Trump Campaign was operating without congressional notification or oversight.

We also know the DOJ-NSD Operation was also operating without oversight:

In 2015 Asst. Attorney General Sally Yates blocked any inspector general oversight of the DOJ National Security Division (SEE Pdf HERE). The Office of Inspector General, Michael Horowitz, requested oversight over the DOJ National Security Division and it was Sally Yates who responded with a lengthy 58-page legal explanation saying, essentially, ‘nope – not allowed.’ (PDF HERE) All of the DOJ is subject to oversight, except the NSD.

It is important to note here that President-elect Trump nominated Senator Dan Coats as ODNI on January 5th, 2017 – however, Democrats held up that nomination until March 16th, 2017.  It is not coincidental that immediately following DNI Dan Coat’s ability to provide information, Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes first reported his concerns.

After Devin Nunes review the Eisenhower SCIF information March 22nd 2017, two days after James Comey’s testimony, Chairman Nunes stated the intelligence product he reviewed was: “not related to Russia, or the FBI Russian counter-intelligence investigation”.

House Intelligence Committee Chairman, Devin Nunes, then held a brief press conference and stated he has been provided intelligence reports brought to him by unnamed sources that include ‘significant information’ about President-Elect Trump and his transition team.

WATCH:

1.) …”On numerous occasions the [Obama] intelligence community incidentally collected information about U.S. citizens involved in the Trump transition.”

2.) “Details about U.S. persons associated with the incoming administration; details with little or no apparent foreign intelligence value were widely disseminated in intelligence community reporting.”

3.) “Third, I have confirmed that additional names of Trump transition members were unmasked.”

4.) “Fourth and finally, I want to be clear; none of this surveillance was related to Russia, or the investigation of Russian activities.

“The House Intelligence Committee will thoroughly investigate surveillance and its subsequent dissemination, to determine a few things here that I want to read off:”

•“Who was aware of it?”

•“Why it was not disclosed to congress?”

•“Who requested and authorized the additional unmasking?”

•“Whether anyone directed the intelligence community to focus on Trump associates?”

•“And whether any laws, regulations or procedures were violated?”

“I have asked the Directors of the FBI, NSA and CIA to expeditiously comply with my March 15th (2017) letter -that you all received a couple of weeks ago- and to provide a full account of these surveillance activities.”

When you add up the absence of a FISA warrant with the discoveries by NSA Director Mike Rogers, and overlay Devin Nunes concerns, this is the picture:

President Obama’s political operatives within the DOJ-NSD were using FISA 702(17) surveillance “about inquiries” that would deliver electronic mail and phone communication for U.S. people (Trump campaign). The NSD unit (John Carlin) was working in coordination with the FBI Counterintelligence Unit (Bill Priestap, Peter Strzok etc.) to look at this campaign activity. DOJ Attorney Lisa Page was the intermediary between the DOJ National Security Division and he FBI Counterintelligence Division.

In an effort to stop the FISA 702(17) activity NSA Director Mike Rogers initiated a full 702 compliance review. However, before the review was complete the DOJ-NSD had enough information for their Russian narrative; which was built upon FISA-702(17) that began in July ’16 per James Comey.  Mike Rogers stopped the FISA702(17) process on October 26th 2016. As a result of his identifying the activity, Rogers became a risk; DNI James Clapper demanded he be fired.

♦Ten days after the presidential election, November 17th 2016, Admiral Rogers travels to Trump Tower without telling ODNI James Clapper. Rogers likely informs President-elect Trump of the prior activity by the FBI and DOJ, including the probability that all of Trump Tower’s email and phone communication was being collected and reviewed by political operatives within the DOJ-NSD and FBI.

On November 17th, 2016, NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers went to see President-Elect Donald Trump in Trump Tower, New York. –SEE HERE– Director Rogers never told his boss DNI, James Clapper.

On November 18th, 2016, the Trump Transition Team announced they were moving all transition activity to Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster, New Jersey. –SEE HERE– Where they interviewed and discussed the most sensitive positions to fill. Defense, State, CIA, ODNI.

The transition team was set up in Trump Tower. The very next day, November 18th 2016, Trump moves the entire transition team to Bedminister New Jersey?

Does this make more sense now?

All research indicates the information the DOJ and FBI collected via their FISA-702(16)(17) queries, and the stuff Fusion GPS was creating via Christopher Steele (The “Russian Dossier), was used to create the Russian Narrative, “The Insurance Policy“.

♦Ultimately, the people within all of these unlawful intercepts of information is what Devin Nunes discovered when he looked at the “unmasking requests” which were a result of those FISA 702(17) collections on Team Trump. That’s why Devin Nunes was so stunned at what he saw in February and March 2017.

The ENTIRE SYSTEM of surveillance and data collection was weaponized against a political campaign.  There were no authorizing or accompanying FISA warrants.

RESOURCES:  – The BIG UGLY

IG Stimulated Releases of Information:

♦Release #1 was the FBI Agent Strzok and Attorney Lisa Page story; and the repercussions from discovering their politically motivated bias in the 2015/2016 Clinton email investigation and 2016/2017 Russian Election investigation.

♦Release #2 outlined the depth of FBI Agent Strzok and FBI Attorney Page’s specific history in the 2016 investigation into Hillary Clinton to include the changing of the wording [“grossly negligent” to “extremely careless”] of the probe outcome delivered by FBI Director James Comey.

♦Release #3 was the information about DOJ Deputy Bruce Ohr being in contact with Fusion GPS at the same time as the FISA application was submitted and granted by the FISA court; which authorized surveillance and wiretapping of candidate Donald Trump; that release also attached Bruce Ohr and Agent Strzok directly to the Steele Dossier.

♦Release #4 was information that Deputy Bruce Ohr’s wife, Nellie Ohr, was an actual contract employee of Fusion GPS, and was hired by F-GPS specifically to work on opposition research against candidate Donald Trump. Both Bruce Ohr and Nellie Ohr are attached to the origin of the Christopher Steele Russian Dossier.

♦Release #5 was the specific communication between FBI Agent Strzok and FBI Attorney Page. The 10,000 text messages that included evidence of them both meeting with Asst. FBI Director Andrew McCabe to discuss the “insurance policy” against candidate Donald Trump in August of 2016.

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1,147 Responses to A Political Battle Over Dossiers, FISA Warrants and Surveillance, Clouds A Much Bigger Story…

  1. bill says:

    The authorizing auditory for FISA used is key. If this FISA came from the top (Obama), then we should expect severe resistance to exposure. Three directions are possible, it came from the top, therefore it existed in one form or another, FISA used was forgery, or FISA exists in the normal type or version.

    The FISA application still remains a key and NUns holds one copy of the key.

    IMPORTANT – We are no longer taking it for granted a FISA warrant was ever given to the DOJ because NO-ONE can prove a FISA warrant exists. Heck, no-one can even point to anything that directly claims a FISA warrant was even requested. There are inferences, suspicions, media reports based on anonymous leaks, but no direct or reasonable evidence beyond innuendo. We are eighteen months past the reported origination dates, and there’s not a single official who will state a 2016 FISA warrant was applied for or granted. Therefore we must begin to question that basic assumption.

    That said, the inability to prove the existence of a FISA warrant does not prove a FISA warrant doesn’t exist. Additionally, the cloud-of-uncertainty conveniently, perhaps purposely, makes it challenging to outline the liars within the intelligence community.

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  2. WesternPA says:

    The United States of America will be no better than some 3rd world banana republic unless ALL of the perpetrators of this scheme are convicted in a real court of law. And I’m not talking about yet another dog and pony show by roosterhead Gowdy. We want handcuffs, orange jumpsuits and prison time! We the people are pissed!

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  3. iwasthere says:

    Sundance said: “All research indicates the information the DOJ and FBI collected via their FISA-702(16)(17) queries, and the stuff Fusion GPS was creating via Christopher Steele (The “Russian Dossier), was used to create the Russian Narrative, “The Insurance Policy“.” And with the GPSfusion testimony as the playbook, – We are going to hear a parade of FBI/DOJ witnesses hiding behind ‘patriotism’ oooh, we were so scared about maybe someone could blackmail ‘fill in blank’ – Russians!! etc etc did my patriotic best etc etc maybe wrong but for the right reasons – but what if ? – insert strawman here – to terrible ‘strawman’ to not ‘investigate’ – national security etc etc. Someone should pull up the testimony from the Church Committee and see if this ‘patriotic’ cover story will hold up. As an aside, Brennon, IMHO, was the worst political hack of a director probably in history – but I can assure your people’s investigators – that the Agency would never pull this crap – because (a) they don’t do anything without sign-off from the legal counsels office – (b) an EO, and (c) making sure the gang of 8 is totally pregnant with the operation. Believe me, as an institution, the Church committee is burned into it’s DNA. Sundance is on it –> all roads point to DOJ/FBI, and IMHO all roads point to Ben Rhodes as the Svengali. Meh, maybe it’s Obama.

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  4. Blue Moon says:

    Just FYI, remember Larry Johnson of NO QUARTER website? He closed his website and disappeared from site the exact same time as Judge Napolitona. Larry was a former CIA (I think) officer and he agreed with what Napolitono said about PT being under surveillance No one, as far as I know, has ever heard anything out of Larry Johnson since that happened. Hope he is o.k.?.

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    • Albertus Magnus says:

      It is hard for me to see the Judge as anything but a disinformation PR person, no matter his politics. For someone who is revered as plugged in and as an authority, he was the MAIN FOX voice before Comey’s press conference on the Hillary email issue back in July of 2016 who was all over FOX talking about what a GREAT MAN OF INTEGRITY COMEY WAS.

      I do not value his opinion on anything at this point. Sorry for replying about the Judge rather than Larry Johnson but to answer your question, I haven’t heard anything about Larry Johnson since, either.

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      • He also loses credibility when he refers to Hamilton as part of the “big government crowd”. That’s pure slander.
        There’s a big difference between “some” government and “big” government.

        How can he keep a straight face and call the principle author of the Federalist Papers part of the “big government crowd”.

        For years, people have tainted Hamilton’s work as “big government” and sullied the reputation of a man who structured one of the most limited governments in all history and the disinformation has stuck. So sad.

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        • ditzee58 says:

          Hamilton was for big government. He wanted a strong centralized government with a Bank of the United States as opposed to say Jefferson who wanted a looser central government and more power with the states. Jefferson opposed a central bank. Jefferson feared a powerful centralized government would lead to abuses and tyranny- you know like with Hussein and his crew of merry monsters.

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      • V.Lombardi says:

        I would ignore the Judge. The Judge has made some very bad predictions, on things he should have known better about. He had to know about the extensive connections and history Comey had with the Clintons. The Judge is just a talker.

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  5. freddy says:

    There are a few bona fide bad guys who were directing this little coup De etat like Clapper and Brennan and Jarret. They are fo real bad actors with far left marxist isalmo progressive leanings. But the people they brought in to it all are really just Hiallary fanatics and dunder heads leaving trails like droppings all the way down the trail. The emails confirm these are not highly competent agents in any way. They are clowns driven by revenge and defeat to the point they broke huge laws and betrayed this country. The politicians are all right there with them and even the sick old bitter loser betrayer himself John McCain left a trail of scum……….I ask is it not time to rehire all the top agents in the FBI cause this is lawless and when will criminal activities this bad and severe ever be punished….We could lose it all here. get loud and stay on it….Kudos SD best reports anywhere.

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  6. lawton says:

    Not a fan of Graham at all but you can’t see him saying this much if that dossier info wasn’t presented to a Court.

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    • freddy says:

      Lindsay is a double dealing backstabber and a joke to be in the Senate. A chameleon that senses it’s time to change colors quick……….

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      • lawton says:

        True but Clapper has proven he will outright lie about spying activities etc.

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      • Founding Fathers Fan says:

        Graham is a RINO with a Liberty Score of 35% (F) but continues to win his primaries with low voter turnout. He won his last primary with 14% voter turnout. So-called conservatives refuse to rally together and turn out in force to vote out RINOs in their primaries and then are surprised when the RINO wins, again.

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        • TreeClimber says:

          We’ve got too many New Yorkers/Ohioans/Rhode Islanders/Californians/etc down here in SC now. Apologies to any Treepers from the above-named states, but those are the ones I can remember off the top of my head where I’ve spoken to state “immigrants” who are exactly the ones who keep sending the like of Lindsey Graham and Jim Clyburn to DC. If we could clean out the snowbirds/Valley Girls, it might be better, but then, kicking someone out your state just because you don’t like them is generally frowned upon.

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      • grandmaintexas says:

        Yes. We all know people like him. He is a bellwether. That is his purpose for us.

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    • Wrong graham is deep state and he’s attempting to protect the deep state.

      The deepstate doesn’t care about Comey and his gang spying on Trump they care about protecting the spying operation five eyes.

      So by pushing the fake FISA warrant it gives the appearance that the system almost worked if not for the corrupt Comey and gang.

      This explains Grahams behavior towards Trump he is the deep states ambassador trying to create an out where by the deep state gets to keep its Toy Five Eyes

      Comey and his gang are rogue agents

      If the American people actually understood Five Eyes they would burn congress to the ground

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      • Edward Snowden described the Five Eyes as a “supra-national intelligence organisation that doesn’t answer to the known laws of its own countries”.

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        • Sentient says:

          No wonder the CIA will never let up on Assange or Snowden.

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          • Alligator Gar says:

            IMHO, they both deserve medals for valor. Brave men who have literally risked it all to inform the normal people of the world of the corruption all around them in the matrix in which the normal “little people” live.

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          • Firefly says:

            They have to make examples of them to deter it. Just like they need to teach us voters and PTrump a lesson never to do this again. The globalists had their useful idiots but they bumbled and caused it to been sseen in broad daylight. Now there’s a revolt/revolution to MAGA. Under PTrump’s leadership, we might win this battle. But it will be a very long war if nobody gets inprisoned for what they tried to do to PTrump.

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      • gda says:

        Graham is a sycophant. He sees which way the wind is blowing. He knows that PDJT has the upper hand now. He’s scrambling to be obsequious, hoping that his earlier “faux pas” will be forgiven/forgotten.

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      • Five Eyes, if our read-in friends do not know, is an intelligence agency consisting of the countries of Australia, the United States, Britain, Canada and New Zealand. It is normally abbreviated as FVEY:

        “The origins of the FVEY can be traced back to the post-World War II period, when the Atlantic Charter was issued by the Allies to lay out their goals for a post-war world. During the course of the Cold War, the ECHELON surveillance system was initially developed by the FVEY to monitor the communications of the former Soviet Union and the Eastern Bloc, although it is now used to monitor billions of private communications worldwide.[4][5]

        In the late 1990s, the existence of ECHELON was disclosed to the public, triggering a major debate in the European Parliament and, to a lesser extent, the United States Congress. As part of efforts in the ongoing War on Terror since 2001, the FVEY further expanded their surveillance capabilities, with much emphasis placed on monitoring the World Wide Web. The former NSA contractor Edward Snowden described the Five Eyes as a “supra-national intelligence organisation that doesn’t answer to the known laws of its own countries”.[6] Documents leaked by Snowden in 2013 revealed that the FVEY have been spying on one another’s citizens and sharing the collected information with each other in order to circumvent restrictive domestic regulations on surveillance of citizens.”

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes

        So one can see that if Obama used intelligence officers from other countries for surveillance into P Donald J. Trump in the U.S., it would be nothing new, and it would have been done this way in order to operate outside of U.S. law……

        I believe that it was Five Eyes that Judge Napolitano was reporting about when FOX stepped in and suspended him for awhile.

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    • KBR says:

      Why not?
      Graham was a never-Trumper and bff buttbuddy to McCain.
      Said he Voted for McMullin, Romney’s boy, as a write in.
      He not only attended the Sea Island “stop Trump” conference, he was a SPEAKER there.

      He is playing the political games now, “befriending PDJT.” I call BS.
      He wants to play the Brutus to Ceasar role is all.

      (I don’t believe for one minute that PDJT is buying this act, but Linda might.)

      Does a Lindsey ever really change its spots?

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      • TPW says:

        did you hear Lindsey’s garbage at the bipartisan meting yesterday? Kissing up is putting mildly. He believes Trump is a chump for ego stroking. Also the gang of eight immigration bill that failed few years ago is being pushed heavily. Let Trump know we are not for amnesty for 11 (fictitious number) million getting amnesty……A lot of people are concerned (our favorite word) about some of the things Trump said in that meeting but I suspect Trump is playing the same game he did with the ACA bill that failed in the House.

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    • covfefe999 says:

      How about this, people: set your hatred of Lindsay Graham aside and listen to what he’s saying. He’s saying that he has seen evidence that the DOJ misused the dossier. Appreciate that he’s stepping forward to say that, it will help. Your personal opinion of him is far less important and shouldn’t cloud your big picture view or judgment.

      Just want to point out that the video is from Dec 29 2017 so it’s very very recent. Sundance posted it in a prior article so many of us had seen it already but it’s very worth repeating here.

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      • gda says:

        See my comments above. But yes, its a good thing that someone who was “taken in” by the criminals is now out front calling for……justice?

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      • ahcwp says:

        That is now, but last year, he was singing a different tune telling Trump to “fess up” for the good of the country.

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      • Tegan says:

        999…no fan of Graham (at all!) but I do believe he is a strong proponent of the Constitution and the Rule of Law, and that above personal animosity against POTUS will guide his words and actions. In other words, I think if push comes to shove he will wear the white hat in this matter.

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      • TreeClimber says:

        Don’t agree with his politics, and am well aware of what a dirty dog he is, but in a way I admire and respect Graham – he’s fairly intelligent. Self-serving, in that he jumps on the winner’s train, but I really suspect he’s jumping ship for real, at least for the time. Might have to beat him about the head with it, but Graham will side with the winner every time. And I haven’t forgotten he went and played golf with PDJT – and people who do that tend to end up playing ball (no pun intended) with PTrump’s agenda, no? If he can use Nikki Haley, he can use Lindsey Graham.

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      • Firefly says:

        Graham is calling for a special counsel because he’s so disturbed by it. Gowdy isn’t – he just wants another do nothing benghazi report. Graham actually gets into the details on issues and does what he thinks is right. Gowdy manipulates by using great rhetoric and theater- but undermines the outcome to the opposite outcome or do nothing outcome. You can make a deal with Graham; you can’t with Gowdy.

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    • Graham is not part of the Gang of Eight. He may rely on the same CIA/FBI/DOJ disinformation that’s being released about the FISA warrant. Or, he knows that there’s no warrant and doesn’t want to say that the spying was without a warrant.

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  7. Cherie Mitchell says:

    Here’s another thought. It might not mean anything, but I’m looking at obtaining a FISA warrant using the “exceptions” clauses. If you’re doing an interview like Clapper was, or giving testimony like the Alphabet partners are, then they can omit information and skirt around the lying issue. Here’s one of the exceptions I see:

    “An exception to the requirement that government obtain a warrant before intercepting covered communications is provided where:

    “any investigative or law enforcement officer, specially designated by the Attorney General, the Deputy Attorney General, the Associate Attorney General, or by the principal prosecuting attorney of any State or subdivision thereof acting pursuant to a statute of that State…”

    Note: “…OR by the principal prosecuting attorney or any State or subdivision thereof acting pursuant to a statute of that State …”

    The State? New York
    Possible solution: Move to New Jersey

    “Insurance policy” could cover several areas (look at regular insurance policies with contingents):
    1) use the State prosecutors, NY State AG, and statutes of the State of NY.
    2) make up dirt; smear campaign (selling it to their “puppets,” the #FakeNews media); creating fake dosier; creating other scandals
    3) tie up the legislative and executive branches in government with investigations and unraveling to get to the truth (which, in actuality, runs deep); creating a smokescreen
    4) control the public through #FakeNews so that the POTUS could be tried by press and attempting impeachment
    5) get rid of many Congressional members through scandals (that may have happened prior to office); target pro-Trumpers and GOP in House to gain the House for the Dems (impeachment)
    (Notice Congressmen committing suicide or resigning due to the scandals; pay close attention to the Rep Congressmen)
    6) control AG Jeff Sessions

    Who are in NY or from NY?
    Headquarters of #FakeNews media
    HRC (ex-Senator, who probably controls a lot of Deep State in NY)

    Idk many of the other key players in NY. However, if the argument can be made to use the “exceptions” for obtaining a warrant, then, “technically,” can an involved fed not consider himself lying?

    Just a few thoughts. Sorry for the length.

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    • Cherie Mitchell says:

      Sorry, “I’m NOT looking at obtaining a warrant…” I’m questioning how a warrant can be obtained using the “exceptions” clauses. What are some of the ways that a fed would consider he or she could obtain a warrant?

      That presupposes that a warrant does exist. If one doesn’t exist, then my supposition is irrelevant.

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      • Cherie Mitchell says:

        Relating to NY, who and what organizations are headquartered in NY?

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        • Firefly says:

          Wondering is the case Preet was working that involved Turkey with Reza Zarrab and Flynn. The Giuliani and Mukassey then represented turkey. May Preet was doing surveillance on his case and the fbi piggy backed on it for Dems.

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    • covfefe999 says:

      You just made me realize, if it was the state of New York that was tapping Trump that could be a reason why he moved his transition HQ to his property in NJ. Just a thought.

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    • ahcwp says:

      Certainly could explain the “ridiculous” claims made by some (Cuomo?) that if DOJ won’t prosecute Trump or his allies, that the State would do it.

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      • covfefe999 says:

        Oh boy, wouldn’t it be awful if there’s a mini abuse of investigation/surveillance going on in NY just as there is a large abuse at the federal level?

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    • Bonitabaycane says:

      The Fourth Amendment contemplates searches being conducted based on warrants that pass probable cause review by a neutral magistrate/judge. A wiretap search without a warrant may only be conducted when an “emergency” exists. No such “emergency” existed to conduct a warrantless search of then Candidate Trump. If there is no FISA warrant, a very serious Constitutional violation has taken place IMO.

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  8. Ziiggii says:

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    • lawton says:

      O take that as him saying they 100% know whether the dossier was used for a FISA warrant now not 100% confirming they applied for one.

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      • lawton says:

        I guess it does imply what you say looking at it again however.

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      • Matt Hay says:

        “have had the opportunity to examine FISA documents in a secure room at the Justice Department.”

        If documents didn’t exist, what was examined? York could be loose on his reporting for sure, but I know Sundance was trying to get confirm yesterday.

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        • KBR says:

          “have had the opportunity to examine FISA documents in a secure room at the Justice Department.”…

          And could not find a single one relating to this investigation?

          Did he say the examined “THE” FISA doc?

          I am sick of this whole charade. Lawyerspeak is wordgames, journalists are wordplayers too.
          Lies lies lies. And more lies. And lies about lies.

          Every person I hear from in this whole crappy DC/NY/THE WORLD!
          I have to ask myself the various possible twists on each and every word, to see if it might be a lie in disguise.
          And if each word is clear and untwistable, then I have to ask is it a lie that is more blatant.

          FED up.

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        • Sevenwheel says:

          A rejected FISA warrant application would qualify as a “FISA document.”

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          • GumboPot says:

            Exactly.

            “the House Intelligence Committee, Senate Intelligence Committee, House Judiciary Committee, and Senate Judiciary Committee — have had the opportunity to examine FISA documents in a secure room at the Justice Department.”

            qualifies as a FISA document. Even Trump in his tweet said the courts rejected them.

            But they (FBI Counter Intelligence and DOJ NSD) still spied on Trump (apparently now without a warrant).

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    • Johnny Bravo says:

      SD is still holding out $1,000 if anyone clan provide reasonable evidence of the FISA apps.

      3. The congressional members Byron York is describing in the article, saw results of FISA-702(16)(17) search queries of already existing scooped up information. Because EVERYTHING is already wiretapped, gathered, within the existing (modern) surveillance system.

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  9. Ziiggii says:

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    • Zephyrbreeze says:

      People naturally conspire. It’s called a conspiracy.

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    • Johnny Bravo says:

      Bada 💥

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    • Tony says:

      FISA can NOT be issued on an Johnny American. CAN NOT.. This is lost in all these topics. Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act allows for only Foreigners or Americans determined to be spying or otherwise working on behalf of a foreign entity to come under this law. ( BUT With out congressional approval ) “In 2011, the Obama administration secretly won permission from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to reverse restrictions on the National Security Agency’s use of intercepted phone calls and e-mails, permitting the agency to search deliberately for Americans’ communications in its massive databases. The searches take place under a surveillance program Congress authorized in 2008 under Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. Under that law, the target must be a foreigner “reasonably believed” to be outside the United States, and the court must approve the targeting procedures in an order good for one year. But a warrant for each target would thus no longer be required. That means that communications with Americans could be picked up without a court first determining that there is probable cause that the people they were talking to were terrorists, spies or “foreign powers”. The FISC also extended the length of time that the NSA is allowed to retain intercepted U.S. communications from five years to six years with an extension possible for foreign intelligence or counterintelligence purposes. Both measures were done without public debate or any specific authority from Congress” …. Pay attention now … Manifort , Page , Popidouplus have one thing in Common. Foreign connections and TRAVEL out side the USA that could be construed to allow a data base “About Query” ( Read Admiral Rodgers 702(17) ) . This is what Admiral Rodgers found and He Stopped it cold on October 26th 2016 ,. He discovered his data base had been used to target Americans in violation of the 4th amendment. What Obama and company did was SET Trump up with people who had a current FISA on them or placed people who had one in the past into Trumps Campaign. ( Think Russian lawyer, Page , Manafort , popidouplus.) and then used those existing FISA authorizations OR REISSUED THEM to then DATA MINE TRUMP PEOPLE. You see how that works ? No “Wires tapped” No black cars following Don Jr , They took what was already in place on Page and Manafort and used it to spy on Trump officials .

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      • Ziiggii says:

        you must miss understand their use of – “Americans determined to be spying or otherwise working on behalf of a foreign entity to come under this law”

        it’s no matter. There is a way to circumvent the FISA court to get to the intel via Title III

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  10. Joe says:

    Growing up I was appalled at the “right wing hit squads” you would read about in Central America.

    Now I get it. Now I get it.

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  11. Aubergine says:

    This thing with Clapper, the body language, the obfuscation, the parsing of words, and his referrals back to previous statements reminds me strongly of a very famous “liar-not-lying,” Bill Clinton! Clinton was a lawyer, and he used his rhetorical skills to lie like a rug to the American people, but the lies were not provable in “court” because of the language he used.

    Same thing going on here, I think. Asked if wiretap were ordered, would this be something you would be aware of, he says “I certainly hope so.” You HOPE SO? Don’t you know for sure? He can’t speak for “other Title III entities” or “state or local entities.” Who all might that be? “Would you be told if the FBI had a FISA court warrant for something like this?” “Yes…something like this, absolutely.” But maybe not about other somethings? So why “this?”

    I seen at least three ways he can weasel out of the parseltongue lies.

    There was a FISA warrant. They don’t want us to see the FISA warrant. It was obtained using a phony document ginned up by political opposition research, and that would not only bring down the whole “muh Russia” collusion theory, it would destroy the FISA court. And they know it.

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    • Kielanders says:

      FISA Court , the nation’s Star Chamber.

      At the end of this, and if they aren’t already, words like Comey, Mueller, FBI, & FISA Court with be good for nothing more than punchlines.

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      • Publius2016 says:

        Unfortunately, no. These jokers have specific exemptions. Presidential decrees allow for this…think about it: President Obama sold 20% of our Nuclear Arsenal to Russia and there is nary a sound…President Obama sends 1.7 billion in cash to Iran and crickets…President Obama releases 30 year old “Dreamers” mostly from Middle East into the heartland of America and the RINOs and Nevertrumpers applaud…our President can’t get recess appointments and has his children under House/Senate rules??? Congress need to act and end this witchhunt…

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        • Twohawk says:

          “Obama sold 20% of our Nuclear Arsenal to Russia” not sure if you are speaking rhetorically, but, it was unmined uranium, not any weapons, per se, as “arsenal” would suggest.

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    • lawton says:

      Yep Clapper even uses a lot of the same head movements he did when he lied about millions of Americans getting their communications captured back in 2013.

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    • David R. Graham says:

      Did you read Sundance here? There was *NO* FISA warrant. That’s the point of this post. The perps used the system itself at the point of raw data already extant, not a legal nicety which would expose them to liability. However, the “who” of who was making the queries/unmaskings did expose them. Nunes saw that and was shocked, saw how deeply corrupt the system had become … deeply unAmerican.

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    • chojun says:

      Based on Sundance’s research (and correct me if I misunderstand it), there never was a FISA *WARRANT*. There may have been at least 1, maybe 2 FISA *APPLICATIONS* (that at least one of which was denied – but it looks like perhaps both were denied).

      We know FISA warrants can be applied for *after* the fact that information is collected using the NSA database.

      The FISA Application(s) likely used the Steele dossier as source.

      If BOTH FISA applications were denied, then it makes sense at this point why the Dossier was being shopped to the media (for “months” before January 2017) and why John McCain got involved with it. At that point they needed grounds for the appointment of Special Council Mueller so that he could manufacture the basis for the illegal wiretapping. Mueller’s job is to get some convictions, wherever he can get them.

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      • TheLastDemocrat says:

        OK – so what Nunes saw might have been two denied FISA warrants / requests.

        So, he may have seen:
        1. intelligence community – may be a coordinated group, not just the guy assigned to go fetch some data, using NSA data base to spy on U.S. citizens, including a viable presidential candidate and his staff, but with no approval evar given to allow any intelligence people to dig into NSA information to spy on individual citizens – this swept up NSA data is supposed to only be surveillable in specific circumstances, with a warrant.
        2. “wiretapping” FISA-request denied, but subsequent evidence that this wiretapping did go on, for political purposes – including a viable presidential candidate and his staff – with the “Muh Russia” context judged as not sufficient to grant a warrant – and possibly a denial that explains how the Muh Russia / Steele Dossier? context was so woefully inadequate.

        So, he may have seen that significant, central, recognizable parts of U.S. intelligence carried out frank warrantless spying for partisan political purposes, after trying to get a warrant on flimsy pretext.

        Maybe that is not phrased very eloquently, but these simple, clear ideas need to be broadcast.

        If this is true, we all may realize we should seriously consider DROPPING patriot act:
        1. it is weaponized, politically,
        2. it is beyond control of our elected representatives/ beyond control of we the people and so is destined to be used for corrupt purposes,
        3. is marginally helpful, relative to good ol’s intelligence, otherwise, in detecting and addressing the Bad Guys: keep in mind: Orlando shooter, Ft. Lauderdale shooter were KNOWN to intelligence community, and San Bernardino shooter couple was NOT known because intelligence community was NOT looking for people traveling to and from Pah Kee Stan, and WOULD NOT examine social media of such travelers. <–IOW: when we DO have intelligence, we aren't acting on it anyway, so….

        What do we have to lose by ceasing NSA sweep of all calls, all data, smart TVs, Echo Dot, Siri, remote control of all cars, baby monitors, Android front-door cams, phoneline-based security systems, etc., etc.?

        If this is what we eventually find out what Nunez saw, we may say: rather than have our lives scooped up and in some Google-managed server in the desert somewhere, snooped by Hiraly Clanton for campaign purposes, why don't we:
        1. Not grant immigration by lottery / RANDOM;
        2. control our border, as every other country in the world except maybe Somalia does?

        Frankly, except for millenials, I cannot see rank and file democrats not arriving at this point once the story gets spilled. [millenials have had their entire lives on the web as it is, so they have no concept of "assumption of privacy."]

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        • chojun says:

          I think we were all extraordinarily clumsy to assume that a FISA warrant was obtained.

          The PATRIOT act was created with the assumption that the intelligence community would police itself and would report its acountability to Congress.

          That obviously is not so.

          I agree – the PATRIOT act should be allowed to expire, or be killed.

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          • TPW says:

            And while they are at it get rid of the CIA which is so corrupted it is useless and harmful…. Yes to the CIA and 15 other agencies. Has anyone taken a gander at how many sub departments that are part of the State Department ….IT IS RIDICULOUS……I wish Trump would take an AX to all of them……then let them talk about reforming ENTITLEMENTS (yes we are entitled to the money we put in)……….For them (Ryan) to bitch and bitch about the money that goes out to entitlements is beyond me…….think about it…..that pampered idiot who has and will have perks beyond belief has the audacity to think Joe Blow can do with less of his SS or work till he drops. To think that people are physically able to work past 67 years old shows he has no idea of reality or lacks empathy. Just go to your local Wal Mart and you will see the poor souls who are of retirement age struggling to get around at work. Yes working because their SS is not enough to cover normal expenses much less their out of pocket medical.

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        • TPW says:

          As I remember…could be wrong…..but the patriot act was already conceived before 9/11. I also believe that it was meant to spy on US citizens. Conspiracy theory maybe……but considering all the diabolical plans in the works to slowly take down the USA.. they knew there would be eventual uprisings among citizens and they had to keep abreast of it by spying. Now some may say that is ridiculous but considering what we know now……not so much. Of course the final thing they must take care of is……confiscating the guns…….

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          • Alligator Gar says:

            IIRC, that unConstitutional pile of crap was shopped to CONgress several time before the “new Pearl Harbor” (9/11) anticipated by the PNAC band of sickos.

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      • V.Lombardi says:

        This is an interesting story, a super detective thriller. Sometimes we are getting too caught up in it. A better focus could be on the perpetrators. That includes those, such as Ryan, McConnell, Burr, Feinstein, … who know many of the details but are not talking. People in DC know the answers to many of these questions. I cannot leave out Sessions, the key participant in the coverup.

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    • Tony says:

      The Author is incorrect. Most of us are. I will argue I am correct. FISA can NOT be issued on an Johnny American. CAN NOT.. This is lost in all these topics. Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act allows for only Foreigners or Americans determined to be spying or otherwise working on behalf of a foreign entity to come under this law. ( BUT With out congressional approval ) “In 2011, the Obama administration secretly won permission from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to reverse restrictions on the National Security Agency’s use of intercepted phone calls and e-mails, permitting the agency to search deliberately for Americans’ communications in its massive databases. The searches take place under a surveillance program Congress authorized in 2008 under Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. Under that law, the target must be a foreigner “reasonably believed” to be outside the United States, and the court must approve the targeting procedures in an order good for one year. But a warrant for each target would thus no longer be required. That means that communications with Americans could be picked up without a court first determining that there is probable cause that the people they were talking to were terrorists, spies or “foreign powers”. The FISC also extended the length of time that the NSA is allowed to retain intercepted U.S. communications from five years to six years with an extension possible for foreign intelligence or counterintelligence purposes. Both measures were done without public debate or any specific authority from Congress” Manifort , Page , Popidouplus have one thing in Common. Foreign connections that could be construed to allow a data base “About Query” ( Read Admiral Rodgers 702(17) ) . He Stopped it cold on October 26th 2016 ,. When he discovered his data base had been used to target Americans in violation of the 4th amendment. Obama and company SET Trump uo with people who had a current FISA on them or placed people who DID had one in the past into Trumps Campaign. ( Think Russian lawyer, Page , Manafort , popidouplus.) and then used those existing FISA authorizations OR REISSUED THEM to then DATA MINE TRUMP PEOPLE. You see how that works ?

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      • Wrong they don’t need any permission to collect the data its already being collected as part of Five Eyes. They can also look at the data if they want but they are supposed to get permission to do so, everything else is just chaff and countermeasures including FISA warrants etc.

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        • LCSmom says:

          It’s not like the warrant itself gives them access to the information – it is the legal basis they are supposed to follow to access it.

          But is sounds like they just access iwhatever they want whenever they want anyway, warrant or no warrant. This is really screwed up.

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  12. Publius2016 says:

    If President Trump was labeled an “Enemy of the State” all investigative agencies would have open books on him…5 Eyes included…look at JFK files and imagine the same level of operations enacted against MLK on President Trump. Everything came from the top. The Presidential Daily Briefs, the unmasking, the use of foreign intelligence, the use of psyops and planted stories. Congress can end this today! Hold these jokers in contempt for procuring the Presidential Transition documents from GSA…it takes only 5 minutes! Once Congress does this, the Executive will act!! Get it together so we can MOVE UP AND MAGA!

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    • Zephyrbreeze says:

      Power can be intoxicating.

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    • chojun says:

      At this point, unfortunately, I think Obama has plausible deniability and James Clapper has, at best, willful ignorance. I don’t think the eventual prosecutions will go any higher than the heads of the DOJ and FBI.

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      • Publius2016 says:

        Let me ask you a question: The tried to change the Electoral College and created this farce, why would Obama deny he labeled President Trump an enemy of the state?

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        • Publius2016 says:

          Obama admitted he emailed Crooked too. Crickets…

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        • chojun says:

          Because it would create a Constitutional Crisis and with the polarized state our Nation is in right now it would’ve led to violence, 100% guaranteed.

          If it came to a war of the people against the Gov’t, the people would win hands down. They know this and don’t want to push THAT button.

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          • Publius2016 says:

            And? Obama is father to ISIS, BLM, ANTIFA

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          • TPW says:

            My opinion is …if Obama is directly involved and allowed to skate you will still have a constitutional crisis …..maybe without the crazies rioting but the “normals” will revolt in many ways. Our Government will lose all respect and chaos will happen on many fronts. Riots are visible and can be squashed but under the table subversion can not.

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      • TPW says:

        Nixon did not have plausible deniability and neither should OH……what is the point of having the President as head of the executive branch if he has no responsibility for what his agencies do……if DOJ has any gonads at all deniability will not be entertained.

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  13. Zimbalistjunior says:

    Next rumor to come. There was/is a mole within trump camp: Jared. Hence, Grassley mentioning he is upset by Feinstein maneuver: that it’ll deter Jared from testifying.

    Of course, it could just be that Grassley is signalling to jared an out for him to use if and when he refuses to testify.

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  14. NC Nana says:

    Sundance, wise (probably genius) observations about DNI Clapper!

    Based on DNI Clapper’s Congressional testimony in 3/13 we were set up to believe Clapper is a liar. Everything I have heard him say since I put into the skeptical or lie category. What a mistake that was on my part. Thank you for the wake up call Sundance.

    (See the lie at http://www.hasjamesclapperbeenindictedyet.com/ )

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  15. litenmaus says:

    Sara Carter…..”What’s interesting is that according to people close to Glenn Simpson and Fusion GPS he [Glenn Simpson] misspoke…what he was referring to was Papadopoulos actually in London.

    Sara is a willing participant in the misdirection…….

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/01/sara-carter-glenn-simpson-referring-papadopoulos-said-fbi-source-trump-campaign-video/

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  16. Kielanders says:

    Project Veritas just released this:

    BREAKING: Sr Network Security Engineer Reveals Twitter Ready to Give Trump’s Private DMs to DOJ

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  17. Truenative says:

    A couple of things to remember here
    There’s only a ways to move up to the high ranks in government
    1) who you know of who you are related to
    2) some sort of quota status
    3) how far you will go to save your bosses was
    The fact is most hard working gov employees never reach that higher level because they refuse to sell themselves out..
    Now, I think this team of trump assassin’s had a plan A) B) C) through T. Plan A) achieve a bogus FISA warrant and make it all look legit, won’t be a problem finding a judge we have dirt on to make it look legit. Part of plan A) is Hillary would be prez. ( plan failed)
    Plan B) if trump somehow wins election, not to worry, because impeachment proceedings will somehow take place on which ever narrative we choose.. Every Uni-party member in DC will back whatever’s we choose. And we have the Media.
    P!an C) trump wins election, plan B fails, so just stall Congress and all investigations, meanwhile shred every part of the paper trail, including bogus FISA warrant continue stalling till the public gets bored.
    Remember, every high level hack appointed in governments first duty is to protect the hack above them at any cost. It’s like a secret oath. Clippers only job is to protect the prez and the cabinet. Because if Clapped knew, that means, Obama knew, if Obama knew, and can be proved then he gets the Nixon award. I’ve thought all along this was cooked up by very high level people.. And if it gets close to Obama, someone in his cabinet will go down for it…it can never be allowed to reach Obama. Right now all these low level hacks Ohr, Carlin, McCabe and Comey are in the line of fire..Clapper and Brennan need the heat turned up on them if this is to ever go higher.. We already know Susan Rice is a bought And paid for liar. And someone needs to start looking into this FISA judge… His background, his cases.. If no answers come then start looking into his boss. Roberts perhaps.

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    • David R. Graham says:

      There was *NO* FISA warrant. That’s the point of this post. Did you read it?

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      • Twohawk says:

        Do you think they claimed imminent danger to the security of the US? Even so, they must have made application for a FISA warrant within 48 hours of beginning surveillance. Did they, and the recused judge denied a warrant at that time, and that is the one FISA request that was denied?

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    • Twohawk says:

      You think too hard.

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    • Firefly says:

      The problem within the government is how cheaply civil servants sell themselves out. They will do it for high appraisals, cheap bonus, stature and power etc. The honest hardworking are driven out. Management throws them under the bus when caught- and there are plenty lining up to be next in line to do the bosses dirty work. It’s been going that way under Bush sr thru Bush jr and accelerated under obama. The military industrial complex used to be expensive but delivered- now its more profitable to screw up and get paid over and over again for the same work.

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      • Alligator Gar says:

        ^^^THIS. Even at the state level. Some of us are bitter, resentful, angry, and just shy of blowing a cork and speaking truth to power.. It is sickening to watch the butt-kissers rise (no matter competency–actually, competency is a net MINUS).

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        • TPW says:

          You would think (when calling various state govt. offices) that white males are 10% of the population…You would also think that college degrees are sold at Wal Mart.

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  18. NJF says:

    Pretty much sums it up

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  19. Turns out Song Brid McCain knew all about the dossier and hand delivered it

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  20. don Bukar says:

    Excellent job SD!
    I have been following you since that girl was burned/murdered in MS. The coverage on this coup attempt is beyond amazing, Thank you.

    Just a thought, we surmise that the Trump team was moved out of the Trump Tower after VA Rodgers tipped them to the the tapping. We also know that Pres. Trump and company left the White House while extensive renovations were done to the Oval Office due to “roaches and vermin”. Maybe that’s just another way to say they found a lot of “bugs” in the walls.

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    • G. Combs says:

      (June 2017) “We found gold behind the walls, which I always knew. Renovations are grand,” Trump says. – http://time.com/donald-trump-after-hours/?xid=fbshare

      A commenter here said: “Gold is used on the coating of the diaphragms in fibre-optic acoustic pick-ups. It doesn’t tarnish like aluminium.”

      konradwp1 explained
      “Nope, not high end audio cable. Even well shielded, it creates an electromagnetic signal that bug scanners can pick up.

      The trick is to do it optically. You run two fibre optic lines to a passive diaphragm. One projects laser light onto the back of the diaphragm, the other returns the fluctuating reflection (audio) to a receiver far from the room. This way no electronic detector can pick up the bugs in the room.

      This approach works well. Right up until the point some crazy Lion with experience in industrial espionage who doesn’t need to rely on the “advice” of security services gets elected president and suddenly decides the walls and ceilings of the Whitehouse need to be stripped to “renovate insulation and air conditioning”.
      GOLD!

      That is probably why President Trump REMINDED Comey not to lie after he was fired. They both KNEW the walls had ears.

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  21. Raffaella says:

    The answer to all this:

    PRESIDENT CAN DECLASSIFY ANY FISA THAT MIGHT EXIST AND RELEASE IT TO PUBLIC.

    Byron York wrote an article on Washington Examiner this morning conforming that:

    Byron York: Yes, Congress has seen Trump-Russia secret court surveillance documents. Now what?
    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/byron-york-yes-congress-has-seen-trump-russia-secret-court-surveillance-documents-now-what/article/2645498

    I have read all of Sundance’s brilliant writing about no confirmation that any FISAs exist. But if FISAs exist and Congress has seen it as Byron York is reporting, President Trump can declassify it so we can all see it and put an end to this nightmare.

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  22. trapper says:

    FTA: “There were no authorizing or accompanying FISA warrants.”

    Well done. That changes all of it. Because that is the criminality. Illegal use. Up to 5 years in prison. 18 USC 2511

    But wait. There’s more. Clapper: “there was no such wiretap activity”

    Carefully chosen words. No wiretap. No warrants. “About inquiries” fit into his words, but that isn’t the only thing that does. Remember, these were amateurs playing at being spies. What in the world was going to be broadcast by ham radio? No evidence, not even a trail, just a hunch, something to keep an ear and eye open for. I will repeat: open the pod bay doors, HAL.

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  23. lawton says:

    Of course they spied other ways also with the queries and illegal unmasking etc. but pretty sure they would want a FISA warrant to try and cover their tracks some for the earlier illegal spying. Why else bother with having Steele create the fake document for them. It also gave them a bunch of juicy media stories to go after Trump. I guess there is a chance they never got a FISA warrant using the stuff however. Listening to Grassley and Graham you would think they have already seen something that told them it was used for a FISA warrant however.

    Nunes statements in the next few days will probably clue us in if it wasn’t used for a FISA warrant however.

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  24. Newhere says:

    I intended to read ALL the comments before commenting but, ALAS, just too many (already almost 2hrs in!) so apologies if what I raise here is covered.

    Wow. Trying to be sure I’ve got the thread(s). I have several questions and a few hypotheses/propositions.

    Questions re FISA/surveillance/”wiretapping”:
    What I’m finally now registering — and hadn’t quite before — is that ONLY THE NSA ever technically “wiretaps” anyone; correct? That is, it is NSA that actually does the “spying” (i.e., intercepts email, phone, internet — basically all “data”). So when we talk about DOJ-NSD or FBI or Obama White House “spying” on the Trump campaign, that is actually sloppy, because what we’re really talking about is agencies (DOJ/FBI) or officials (Rice, Powers) who have made a request to NSA for intercepts — intercepts that NSA always already possesses because of dragnet surveillance, but in principle doesn’t look at. Correct?

    Ok. So then who has authority to get surveillance on U.S. citizens and how? It seems we’re talking about different things here and I’m trying to follow: (1) DOJ/FBI can “open a counterintelligence investigation” by asking a FISA court for a warrant (and in an emergency do so retroactively). And what exactly is allowed under the FISA warrant? To make 702(17) “about inqueries”? And aside from “about inqueries”, the FBI also can seek seek FISA authority to obtain domestic intercepts? So not just the results of what comes from the inqueries, which in principled would be limited by the scope of the search terms, but EVERYTHING, all data involving both foreign and domestic intercepts, for a U.S. target?

    [Before today I’d have thought that DOJ/FBI seeking a FISA warrant actually would INITIATE surveillance on U.S. citizen targets; but what I think I’m getting from SD and others is that they don’t need to initiate, because the surveillance is already occurring, on all of us, all the time (wow). FBI needs permission to look at it. What is the predicate (the legal basis) for NSA already having domestic data on U.S. citizens to hand over? They literally are intercepting all of us all the time and storing it?]

    On to the second “spying” scenario: (2) Separately, Obama WH officials who obtain foreign intelligence “products” (funneled through the ODNI) have the ability to “spy” on U.S. citizens by requesting that an identity in an intelligence product be “unmasked.” What I recall from a prior explanation is that an “unmasking request” would go to the “originator of the intelligence product.” This gets to the SCIF issue — that is, the different IC agencies, from their different activities, would be the holders of different U.S. citizen data, and so an unmasking request would go to the agency that carried out the activity that obtained the U.S. citizen data — either “intentionally” (FBI counterintelligence investigation?) or “incidentally” (and that could be NSA, CIA or FBI counterintelligence operation?).

    “Originators” would have to be either NSA, CIA, or FBI. And the “masked” U.S. citizen could only show up in an “intelligence product” through NSA/CIA “incidental” collection, or through a *FISA-authorized* FBI counterintelligence investigation (even if authorized retroactively) that incidentally or intentionally collects U.S. data (though, presumably if an official has to ASK for the unmasking, the collection was incidental; if intentional — i.e., the U.S. citizen was a target, they’d already be unmasked).

    So FBI, in principle, would ONLY be an originator for a “masked” U.S. identity *if it was part of a counterintelligence investigation; and FBI, in principle, would only be conducting a CI if it had FISA authority (even if retroactive). And anyone receiving an intelligence product that has masked U.S. identities that originated from the FBI would assume there had been a FISA warrant (and would have the classification level to verify — but probably wouldn’t).

    Is this all correct?

    [And again: being an “originator” of an “intelligence product” is NOT THE SAME THING as doing the actual surveillance — because, it is always the NSA doing the actual surveillance?]

    So, in sum, to look at U.S. data (i.e., “spy on an American”), DOJ/FBI need a warrant, and WH officials need to make an unmasking request. (We would never say, for example, that DOJ/FBI made an “unmasking” request because that confuses how things work — correct?). I’m unclear on how CIA fits into this (i.e., what they can do and when) but setting that aside for now.

    One more thing: Is it correct that the FBI can obtain the data of U.S. citizens (i.e., “spy on Americans”) as part of a COUNTERINTELLIGENCE investigation, and NOT as part of a CRIMINAL investigation? In other words, if DOJ/FBI suspected say, money-laundering, they could not obtain ANY U.S. data as part of their investigation efforts? However, if in the course of looking at U.S. data as part of a counterintelligence investigation they come across evidence of a crime, they’re allowed to use it…

    I’ll stop here instead of blathering on with my hypos/propositions, in case I’m already out over my skis. Hope that one of the CTH experts will weigh in! (I think this last issue, FBI counterintelligence investigations vs. criminal investigations, may actually be a significant thread, along the lines Andrew McCarthy has highlighted, but to explain a few other things too …. but really would be grateful to be set straight on the qts just raised.) Thanks!

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  25. Bob Thoms says:

    This is mind-blowing; it is the big takeaway. Thanks Sundance. This should be spread across all blogs………….

    “The ENTIRE SYSTEM of surveillance and data collection was weaponized against a political campaign. There were no authorizing or accompanying FISA warrants.”

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  26. Ziiggii says:

    Electronic Surveillance—Title III Applications

    It must be prepared by an applicant identified as a law enforcement or investigative officer. The application must be in writing, signed by the United States Attorney, an Assistant United States Attorney, and made under oath. It must be presented to a Federal district court or court of appeals judge and be accompanied by the Department’s authorization memorandum signed by an appropriate Department official and a copy of the most recent Attorney General’s Order designating that official to authorize Title III applications. The application may not be presented to a magistrate. See 18 U.S.C. §§ 2510(9) and 2516(1); see also In re United States of America, 10 F.3d 931, 935-38 (2d Cir. 1993).

    https://www.justice.gov/usam/criminal-resource-manual-28-electronic-surveillance-title-iii-applications

    seems to be a loophole using Title 3 to get to these 702 (16)(17) products that circumvents going to the FISC all together…

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    • Ziiggii says:

      The Attorney General, Deputy Attorney General, Associate Attorney General, or any Assistant Attorney General, any acting Assistant Attorney General, or any Deputy Assistant Attorney General or acting Deputy Assistant Attorney General in the Criminal Division or National Security Division specially designated by the Attorney General, may authorize an application to a Federal judge of competent jurisdiction for, and such judge may grant in conformity with section 2518 of this chapter an order authorizing or approving the interception of wire or oral communications by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, or a Federal agency having responsibility for the investigation of the offense as to which the application is made…”

      https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2516

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      • Ziiggii says:

        So, Clapper seems to be fluently using parcel tongue…. He doesn’t oversee any thing related to Title III.

        Title III doesn’t seem to fall under the oversight of the FISA courts

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        • Proud American from Texas says:

          Not FISA Court per se. But Contreras is a fed judge in DC capable of issuing Title III warrants as well as FISA rotating judge.

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    • Firefly says:

      Yes. Snowden revealed that. Here’s an article. Jim Jordan is submitting a bill regarding warrantless surveillance/searches. I hear a lot of buzz about no fisa warrant was issued. Lindsey Graham is using wording like how the doj and fbi used to dossier…no fisa wording being used.

      Gang of 8 let this happen. Feinstein is really bad news.
      https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/09/nsa-loophole-warrantless-searches-email-calls

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  27. Firefly says:

    This was posted on Tomas Paine twitter:
    BOUNTY: Inspector General Probes Large Cash Prizes Handed Out to Anti-Trump FBI Agents
    Potentially illicit private performance bonuses — or political payoffs — between $30,000 and upwards of $50,000 possibly awarded to high-ranking FBI agents have caught the eye of the Inspector General, according to federal law enforcement sources.
    Your tax dollars at work at the FBI.
    The two levels for cash awards include the Meritorious award and Distinguished rank award, sources said. Recipients receive a cash prize of 20 percent of their base pay for Meritorious and a cash prize of 35 percent of their salary for Distinguished level awards.

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  28. Bob Thoms says:

    This is how banana republic dictatorships operate =

    No warrants, No bill of attainder, No writ of Habeas corpus. No courts, no oversight, no accountability.

    SMH.

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  29. David b says:

    When aeee you hooking Rice into all this? Because THAT is the real smoking gun that would lead to Obama.

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  30. ahcwp says:

    “The obfuscation about James Clapper might not seem like a big deal, and almost everyone missed it at the time, however in hindsight it is another critical part of the evidence against James Comey.

    IF THERE WAS a FISA Warrant issued against the Trump Campaign, or Trump Officials, by the FBI (Counterintelligence Unit), or DOJ (National Security Division), James Clapper would have to be notified of it.”

    I read a good portion of the comments, but haven’t seen anyone discuss the above excerpt.

    We know that Comey testified that he did not notify anyone with oversight for a good 8 months until he “told” DNI Coats once he was placed in office in mid-March. When I first heard that, I instantly caught the phrasing and wondered why Clapper wasn’t informed since he was DNI until Trump “fired” him.

    With regards to Clapper, himself, we know he is a liar, as is that other muzzie, Brennan.
    So given Clapper’s empathic denials, we can only surmise one or a combination of the following:
    1) Clapper lied and actually approved the FISA warrant and maintained official oversight, OR
    2) Yet another lie from Comey and it was his folks that went rogue and conducted operations for months, in violation of every procedure, including oversight by DNI Clapper, OR
    3) Clapper knew and even coordinated the Comey sneak, in # 2 above, with his role to act like Sgt Schultz and claim that he didn’t even get out of bed the day Comey did his deed

    No matter how you slice it, even if a FISA warrant was approved, laws were broken according to the listed Title III exceptions; that gave a 48-hour deadline for paperwork to be prepared and filed with the FISA court for after-the-fact surveillance. Instead, we had nearly 4 months of continued warrantless surveillance before the supposed warrant was approved in Oct 16 after the initial denial in June 16.

    Keep pulling threads and I’m sure we can unravel things all the way back to 1990s when Hillary had over 300 FBI files on her enemies. Nixon’s enemies list was nothing compared to this. Which of course is where Intern Hillary got her inspiration that agencies can be co-opted, before she was fired by Ellsberg.

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  31. lawton says:

    http://dailycaller.com/2017/12/05/russian-lawyer-who-met-don-jr-submits-senate-testimony-theres-just-one-problem/

    The Russian lawyer who attended the infamous Trump Tower meeting denied interacting with the founder of Trump dossier research firm Fusion GPS that same day, in direct contradiction to what the opposition researcher told Congress last month.

    Natalia Veselnitskaya told the Senate Judiciary Committee in written testimony submitted last month that she did not have contact with Fusion GPS founder Glenn Simpson on the day of the June 9, 2016 Trump Tower meeting.

    “Did you have contact with Glenn Simpson on June 8, 9, or 10, 2016?” reads one of the 94 questions posed to Veselnitskaya by the Senate Judiciary Committee.

    “No, there had been no contacts with him on [sic] specified dates,” Veselnitskaya said in her written testimony, which was submitted electronically on Nov. 20 and published on Tuesday by NBC News.
    ——————————————-
    Already catching the Clinton/DNC financed Fusion GPS players not getting their stories straight to Congress. This Russian lawyer Fusion GPS plant denied meeting Glenn Simpson when she met him just before and after that Trump tower meeting.

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    • John Rawls says:

      In testimony, Simpson describes being at dinner with her before and after Trump Tower meeting, but that she was sitting across the room, and of course, he doesn’t speak Russian.

      Just a coincidence I am sure.

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  32. Lunagirl says:

    Ditto the comments thanking Sundance. You Sir, are a national treasure and hero.

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  33. Wayne Wickizer says:

    Sundance and “The Last Refuge,” Thank you for your splendid graphic/photo/visual rich reportage and the logic that resonates therefrom. Please forgive the following, shameful, self promotion but it’s necessary to make a point. I speak as an 80 year-old grandfather, former FBI Agent, retired U.S. Army Special Forces Officer, educator, and compulsive political “lurker.” I’ve been around the block since Nixon and Watergate and believe this current debacle subverts the rule of law and reaches a scope and sequence of corruption, intrigue, and government disfunction heretofore never even imagined. Subsequent the Nixon and Watergate travesty, the Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI) affair of the 1990s was in the lead for the “Deep State Swamp” Oscar. In that “most corrupt bank in the history of the World” at the time, there’s an interesting but currently ignored concurrence between BCCI and events of today in the person of Robert Mueller. Mueller acted as the “Deus ex Machina” or “God in the Machine” during BCCI as he did damage control for the likes of a whole gaggle of politicians, three letter agencies and their counterparts, money laundering, illegal arms deals etc. etc. who were on the take, using BCCI as cover for their nefarious schemes. And … tellingly … individuals still in the mix who were also compromised in BCCI include Senators Orrin Hatch and Patrick Leahy. If there is to be a most prominent face on the “Deep State” or the “Goodfellas” as I’m compelled to refer to them … it’s Mueller … then also Hatch and perhaps Leahy. Hatch solicited a $10MM loan from BCCI which again was at the time considered the most corrupt bank in the history of the World and Leahy/Hatch “greased” through committee Muller’s approval as FBI Director. BCCI’s history is by many measures far broader and insidious than there is time to report here. Suffice it to say, however, all media should be encouraged to report BCCI within the framework of our current events and Mueller’s machinations therein highlighted and enlarged by BCCI’s sordid past … and … I repeat … reported. “The Last Refuge,” and Lemon Tea enliven me every morning here at the Ole’ Buzzard’s roost. Best wishes and please keep up the extraordinarily fine work … thank you! Grandfather

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  34. phoenixRising says:

    Here’s link to twitter thread on this that Sundance put up at his account. It may have already been posted, however I feel it cannot be posted enough… send it out to those who need information. If you don’ tweet, e-mail the link.

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  35. darren says:

    If they were serious about rooting out the corruption at DOJ/FBI, they would have appointed a special council. Investigations die a political death in these sorts of congressional investgations. By the time they are done, both sides will have their spin and justice will never happen. Our congress is like the WWE – fake posturing.

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    • A special council and congressional hearings can’t fix this

      It’s not just about the rogue agents it’s much bigger

      It’s the big brother surveillance state which vacuums up all data and which they told us would never be used against the American people

      Well it was just used against a presidential candidate

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    • G. Combs says:

      The Department of Justice does not NEED a special council (That is tied to the Swampy Congress) They are there to do these types of investigations/indictments.

      AND they do them SILENTLY so as not to muck up the case.

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  36. georgiafl says:

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  37. Ziiggii says:

    Despite the previously discussed legality and oversight framework, public discussion about the program remains mired in rhetoric, untethered to any legal framework and instead is lumped in with generalized fears of mass surveillance. Opponents of Section 702—without evidence—accuse the government of using it to intentionally and indirectly target Americans and of using statutory “loopholes” to conduct “unlimited searches” of Americans’ communications. But as it stands, Section 702 explicitly prohibits the government from “intentionally target[ing] a person reasonably believed to be located outside the United States if the purpose of such acquisition is to target a particular, known person reasonably believed to be in the United States.” And the claim that the government uses Section 702 to conduct “unlimited” searches of Americans is belied by the extensive oversight required by the statute.

    https://www.lawfareblog.com/high-stakes-misunderstanding-section-702-reforms

    hmmm, I’m not a law junky, but I have identified multiple “loopholes” in just the past few days…

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  38. SharkFL says:

    Weaponized? Like, with a cloth?

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  39. John Rawls says:

    Former Acting CIA Director – 10/9/17
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-one-change-we-need-to-surveillance-law/2017/10/09/53a40df0-a9ea-11e7-850e-2bdd1236be5d_story.html?tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.95abcf1d1d69

    “The two of us — both members of the panel that President Barack Obama appointed in 2013 to review the government’s foreign intelligence programs in the wake of Edward Snowden’s disclosures — agree that FISA Section 702 should be reauthorized but with a significant reform. The government should no longer be permitted to search the data collected under Section 702 without a warrant when seeking information about U.S. citizens and legal permanent residents.”

    then…

    “There is, however, one aspect of the way the 702 program has evolved that we believe needs to change: the FBI’s practice of searching the data for information on Americans without first obtaining a warrant.”

    Need to track everything these guys have said.

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    • John Rawls says:

      Another line of inquiry are the WH meetings with FBI and DoJ National Security Division FISA-attorneys that occurred just prior to official opening of the investigation on Trump.

      One of them included a 10 hour meeting involving…
      James Baker(FBI) Trisha B Anderson (FBI) Tashina Guahar( DOJ) John T Lynch (DOJ) John (Brad) Wiegmann (DOJ) Alan Rozenshtein (DOJ) Norman (Christopher) Hardee (DOJ) Iris Lan (DOJ)

      Trisha B Anderson (FBI) was involved in the Comey memo.

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  40. SR says:

    How would these congress hearings and investigations bring criminal charges to corrupt FBI, DOJ, FusionGPS, DNC, John M, Rice and Clintons?

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  41. Mr. Wonderful says:

    Rogers’ Body Language? as seen in the Sepanik interview of Comey/Rogers.

    Probably this has been discussed elsewhere, but he seems to have distinct body motion patterns;
    1. When he is agreeing, he rocks front/back, albeit with a lateral component, almost at a 30 degree angle off-axis toward his right, while nodding.
    2. When Comey starts to answer a challenging question, Rogers has a short, mostly side-to-side body motion, that says ‘discomfort’ to me.

    Of course, this is just more reading of tea leaves, and might be disproven in more lengthy study of his other testimony. Also maybe only tangentially related to SD post today.

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  42. georgiafl says:

    Not a smidgen of doubt that Obama started right away to abuse his office, to work around the law, to use every agency to punish and spy on opponents.

    That’s just the way he operated for 8 years.

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    • MIKE says:

      Ah, yes, Sally. Smug, smug Sally. I hope a 25-to-life appointment keeps her from selling sea shells by the sea shore. I hope her dancing days are over.
      (Better than Lou’s version)

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    • nimrodman says:

      “Not a smidgen of doubt that Obama started right away to abuse his office, to work around the law, to use every agency to punish and spy on opponents.”

      It’s Obama’s newer, high-tech version of Hillary pirating boxes of FBI files out to her dining room (or elsewhere) to comb thru for blackmail material.

      Just reflects technological progress from paper files to computerized databases like NSA’s.

      same-same

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  43. Nigella says:

    All this leaves Us where?

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  44. winky says:

    Wow this is good for Ca…..It is not just Mexico who talks advantage of the US

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/01/feds-raid-20-chinese-immigrant-birth-hotels-los-angeles/

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  45. lawton says:

    https://www.grassley.senate.gov/news/news-releases/grassley-graham-seek-surveillance-applications-russia-probe

    This letter in that article from Byron York from Grassley asking for FISA info from the DOJ is pretty specific. It even asks for the info that was submitted in the 7 day pre-request basically where the court would tell them what wasn’t up to snuff on the FISA warrant application. Also it seemed Grassley and Graham finally got a lot of info on this dossier related mess because they ” officially” recommended Steele be looked into for lying to the FBI apparently. Most people seem to think it was due to conflicting statements with his court testimony in a lawsuit against him over this dossier but it could be something else I guess.

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  46. winky says:

    Just heard Ned Ryun on Trish Reagan……He said that the meeting yesterday proved PTrump is totally fit for office and marveled at how the president conducted the meeting and that he was totally engaged and alert and excellent. He has a point there. I have heard this guy before and he seems to be a pretty reasonable guy who supports PTrump.

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  47. fernleygirl says:

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  48. phoenixRising says:

    Susan Rice claims she was correct in “unmasking” senior Trump officials (Flynn, Kushner, Bannon) because of the meeting with Arab prince etc.

    I don’t think she was using a “query’ or queries. IMHO a FISA warrant was necessary. Her defense is a very weak one. And what of all the other times?

    Clapper is saying publicly there was no FISA warrant… no one has asked him about 702(17) “queries” – see below

    “…The FISC ultimately approved the FBI’s Section 702 minimization procedures in
    the November 6, 2015 Memorandum Opinion and Order.9 The Court based the decision,
    in part, on a finding that the risk to U.S. persons’ was relatively low. Based on
    information provided by the U.S. government, the Court concluded the FBI would rarely,
    if ever, view or use the results of a query of Section 702-acquired data concerning U.S.
    persons for investigations unrelated to national security. However, to monitor whether the
    risk assessment was correct, FISC introduced the following reporting requirement:

    The government shall promptly submit in writing a report concerning each
    instance after December 4, 2015, in which FBI personnel receive and review
    Section 702-acquired information that the FBI identifies as concerning a United
    States person in response to a query that is not designed to find and extract
    foreign intelligence information. The report should include a detailed description
    of the information at issue and the manner in which it will be used for analytical,
    investigative, or evidentiary purposes. It shall also identify the query terms used
    to elicit the information and provide the FBI’s basis for concluding that the query
    is consistent with the applicable minimization procedures.10

    In the annual “Statistical Transparency Report Regarding Use of National Authorities,”
    the DNI releases statistics on the use of national security authorities.11 The Report on
    calendar year 2016 included the number of “instance[s] in which FBI personnel
    receive[d] and review[ed] Section 702-acquired information that the FBI identifies as
    concerning a United States person in response to a query that is not designed to find and
    extract foreign intelligence information” – one.12

    However, the DNI did not release any further information about this query

    https://epic.org/foia/epic-v-NSD/EPIC-17-05-15-NSD-FOIA-20170515-Request.pdf

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    • phoenixRising says:

      “… The NSA and CIA discussion includes added provisions to reflect current practice in minimization procedures and modifications. Query procedures are modified to include a requirement that queries using United States persons’ identifiers are accompanied by a written statement of facts showing the use of identity as a query term is reasonably likely to return foreign intelligence. This section includes a modification to the retention and preservation obligations to allow for retention when the DOJ advises a department to preserve information in light of pending or anticipated litigation. Accompanying this modification, there is an added requirement that NSA and CIA provide the National Security Division (NSD) with a summary of the litigation matters that require the preservation of Section 702 data, and the status of each matter. The NSD will notify the court, and separately request authorization for retention, under certain conditions. Regarding attorney-client privileged communications, there is a specification that the communications should be destroyed if they do not contain foreign intelligence information or evidence of a crime.”

      https://www.lawfareblog.com/18-documents-odni-released-section-702-summaries

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    • VegasGuy says:

      I think Clapper is doing a bit of CYA. My take is that at the time Clapper said there was no FISA Warrant he was correct, there was no FISA Warrant…. When he says he …”sure hopes that he would know”…he is saying that IF something was going down, he was not involved…Yeah right!

      I go one step further in my “speculation” that the recused Judge “created” a FISA Warrant after the fact & was then summarily “recused” by higher ups. So…now I believe there IS a FISA Warrant out there…just not a valid one or one that was created within the legal parameters required…That makes just enough confusion to hold off the Calvary for a bit longer because most of what transpired would be deemed “classified”…So at the various points both Clapper (there is no warrant) & Comey ( “due to the sensitivity of the matter”) would be truthful in there responses…

      It’s akin to Schrödinger’s cat…The FISA Warrant can be thought of as being both in existence & not in existence until that “Box” is opened…LOL

      They all have some breathing room until someone in Congress actually hauls the “recused” Judge in for questioning…Don’t hold your breath….

      JMHO

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  49. thedoc00 says:

    From SD discussion, “It is important to note here that President-elect Trump nominated Senator Dan Coats as ODNI on January 5th, 2017 – however, Democrats held up that nomination until March 16th, 2017. It is not coincidental that immediately following DNI Dan Coat’s ability to provide information, Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes first reported his concerns.”

    It is critical to understand that until Inauguration Day, 20 January 2018, President OBAMA had the authority to essentially declassify materials and to delegate classification authority to any cleared person within the US Government. He had authority to literally open all nooks and crannies of the government for a “LEGAL” massive “cleansing” operation to protect the key players and “damaging data planting” operation to sabotage President-elect Trump. Note, I said power to “delegate authority”, which gave Obama just enough distance to deny knowledge of the cleansing and sewing/planting operation, yet gave him authority to delegate power to perform the operation.

    This is why it will be very difficult to actually prosecute the key actors trying to bring down President Trump and Republic Get ready to have to live with exposure only, mitigated by Democrat Media Machine spinning. To date the evidence laid out by SD only implicates small fish and is circumstantial at best against the big fish who would have benefitted most from this coup.

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    • thedoc00 says:

      This was the one major draw back to having a non-politician and support team not well versed on the topic of classification and security assume control of the executive branch. It probably took the Trump team a few weeks to realize the authority they had as well as the need to wield it in order to put stop to the cleansing operation.

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      • phoenixRising says:

        Obama MISUSED his authority as well as delegated illegal actions. His cronies in Congress HELD UP Trump’s nominees… the problem is NOT that Trump is a non-
        politician (my observation is he is well aware of how ‘politicians’ typically behave, he simply is smarter than most and moves in different ways.

        A non-politician like Oprah Winfrey or Meryl Streep may not be smart enough to know the ropes, but you can bet Donald John Trump knew exactly what was going on and took every step to thwart. The problem is one has to know who the “fixers” are before one can remove or thwart them. AG Sessions and his team have finally determined that, and will be moving forward. Sen. Feinstein may lose her committee assignment. She should.

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      • G. Combs says:

        General Flynn, AG Sessions, Admiral Rogers and several others would have known. Remember President Trump put together a top flight team.

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