Chaff and Countermeasures – The DC Outrage Traps…

Yesterday Senators Johnson and Grassley opened the door for the DOJ and FBI to justify the post-election investigation of President Donald Trump, based on a premise of a possible FBI counterintelligence operation ran against the office of the Vice-President, Mike Pence. And lickety-split the outrage voices jumped right to work. Predictable.

Discussions, conversations and displays of evidence outlining the efforts of the intelligence community, to defend against the potential of a compromised President, are exactly what the previous administration officials want to see.  This is the conversation President Obama, Susan Rice, Ben Rhodes and Denis McDonough would be happy to discuss.

Think of the worst or most shocking possibility you can imagine for what might have taken place.  Wiretaps on the White House? Enlisted assistance from staffers? Bugs placed in the cufflinks of Donald Trump?  So what?  From their position all of these efforts were undertaken because they were dealing with the possibility of a U.S. President who might be under the control of a foreign government.  This is the conversation they would enjoy.

From their by-the-book perspective the officials who ran the counterintelligence operation against President Trump have no fear of discussions about what they did in their post-election defense of the constitution (that’s how they will sell it). No fear.

Discussions of seemingly outrageous activity, via lots of blockbuster revelation, is in their interest.  All of their actions easily justified from the standpoint of a possibility the inbound President was compromised.  “We were riddled with anxiety”, they say.

There’s no risk to them in discussing their action, any action, undertaken from the basis of their premise.  Recruiting incoming administration people to conduct surveillance and report back to the FBI? Justified under this premise.  There is no upper limit.

Again, think of the most shocking revelation you can possibly imagine, none of it concerns them so long as they can justify it from their pre-constructed premise that Trump was a Russian asset.  For this premise, there is no rule book. Everything is ‘by-the-book‘ because there is no book.  It’s the perfect Alinsky play.

The participating officials within the DOJ, FBI or intelligence apparatus simply reference the possibility of President Trump as a Russian asset and every jaw-dropping headline reaches a crescendo only to fizzle into the ether of nothingness when an official says: “Yeah, so what?”

This is exactly what those officials want to see happen as they tell the story of their unprecedented heroic efforts to ensure all angles of possibility were covered.

These participating officials would like nothing more than a dozen congressional hearings where they can explain to the viewing public how honorable they were in trying to deal with the possibility of such an unprecedented threat… Oh, how the summer of headlines will be gleefully cheered by the adoring media.  You think this conversation worries the participants?  Not a smidgen.

The entire time all of these blockbuster outrages are being debated and analyzed in granular detail, you know what’s not being discussed?… The originating predicate.

Discussing the consequences, regardless of how ‘shocking‘, or ‘jaw-dropping‘, or ‘unimaginable‘, plays right into the hands of the participating members of the fraud and scheme.  These are discoveries they welcome. These are discoveries to be planted.  This is where they want the focus. This is Chaff and Countermeasures.

What they don’t want to discuss is the origination of ‘Crossfire Hurricane’ in July 2016.  What they don’t want to discuss is Fusion-GPS and the creation of the Steele Dossier.  What they don’t want to discuss is how the fraudulent premise was established.

What they don’t want to discuss is the exploitation of the NSA database for political surveillance. That’s what they don’t want to discuss… And every time attention starts to head in that direction, they’ll throw out another entirely justifiable headline-grabbing detail of their post election activity.

Shiny things; like the wife of Pence’s chief-of-staff worked with Peter Strzok.

Must be urgent, right?

[…] Fox News has learned the texts, initially released in 2018 by a Senate committee, are under renewed scrutiny, with GOP Sens. Chuck Grassley and Homeland Security Committee chair Ron Johnson sending a letter Thursday night to Attorney General Bill Barr pushing for more information on the matter.

Oh, wait, so they sat on them because?…..

Chaff and Countermeasures.

This is how the DC game is played.  Senators Johnson and Grassley laid the first shiny distraction on the table; and based on the responses, boy howdy, does the outrage game work well.  Inquiry immediately follows the distraction.

Oh, how quickly we forget our references for this DC strategy:

Where’s the Graham-Grassley letter to Gina Haspel?

Dear Director Haspel: “Hey, so, CIA, how’d Crossfire Hurricane start? What did you get through the Counterintelligence Mission Center?  Can you spare a few minutes to note the contacts from  GCHQ, and that meeting between Robert Hannigan and John Brennan?”

Huh, funny that.

Where’s the Burr-Warner letter to Paul Nakasone?

Dear Gen. Nakasone: “Can you provide us a little more information about why the NSA dropped database “about queries”?  Maybe outline the contractors that were of such concern they had to be restricted from access…. and, oh, their current status?”

Too soon? Three years.

The outrage trap must be avoided….

The issue(s) surround President Obama and high-ranking Obama intelligence officials, notably: John Brennan, James Comey, James Clapper and Sally Yates intentionally lying and/or misrepresenting issues to president-elect Donald Trump and the transition team in/around the transition period and after the January 20, 2017, inauguration.

Some of the misinformation stems from intelligence officials telling direct lies (ex. telling President-elect, and President Trump he was not under investigation). Other aspects were lies of omission surrounding the Steele Dossier during the January 6th, 2017, intelligence briefing session with the President-elect in Trump Tower.

In essence, there were many misleading and false statements, with varying scales of severity, during the period from November 9th, 2016, through mid-May 2017 when President Trump fired FBI Director James Comey.

James Comey wrote all about the unorthodox investigative methods they were forced to use in unseen memos currently withheld…. awaiting shiny thing timing:

(FBI Declarations about Comey Memos)

The FBI, DOJ, ODNI, CIA and intelligence officials were intentionally not being direct and honest with President Trump and key members of his new administration. Obviously their lack of honesty was a serious issue, and in some cases had serious ramifications.

The expressed finding by Robert Mueller’s two-year probe of ‘no Trump-Russia collusion, no Trump-Russia conspiracy, and no Trump-Russia obstruction’ has led to some hindsight reviews where anger surfaces about the now visible deception.  However, there is a trap laid here and Democrats are hoping outraged voices will walk straight into it. Some are already getting very close.

At 12:15pm on January 20th, 2017, Obama’s outgoing National Security Advisor Susan Rice wrote a memo-to-self. Many people have called this her “CYA” (cover your ass) memo, from the position that Susan Rice was protecting herself from consequences if the scheme against President Trump was discovered. Here’s the email:

On January 5, following a briefing by IC leadership on Russian hacking during the 2016 Presidential election, President Obama had a brief follow-on conversation with FBI Director Jim Corney and Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates in the Oval Office. Vice President Biden and I were also present.

President Obama began the conversation by stressing his continued commitment to ensuring that every aspect of this issue is handled by the Intelligence and law enforcement communities “by the book“.

The President stressed that he is not asking about, initiating or instructing anything from a law enforcement perspective. He reiterated that our law enforcement team needs to proceed as it normally would by the book.

From a national security perspective, however, President Obama said he wants to be sure that, as we engage with the incoming team, we are mindful to ascertain if there is any reason that we cannot share information fully as it relates to Russia.

[Redacted Classified Section of Unknown length]

The President asked Corney to inform him if anything changes in the next few weeks that should affect how we share classified information with the incoming team. Corney said he would.

Susan Rice ~ (pdf link)

As stated, many have looked at this as a “CYA” memo, but that’s not what this is.

This is a justification memo, written by an outgoing National Security Advisor Susan Rice to document why there have been multiple false and misleading statements given to the incoming President Trump and all of his officials.

This is not a “CYA” memo, this is a justification memo for use AFTER the Trump-Russia collusion/conspiracy narrative collapsed; if the impeachment effort failed.

The “By The Book” aspect refers to President Obama and Susan Rice being told by CIA Director John Brennan, FBI Director James Comey, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, and Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates, that President Trump was the subject of an active counterintelligence investigation to determine if he was under the influence of the Russian government.

Even the timing of the memo, written 15 minutes prior to the end of the Obama administration, is ex-post-facto useful as evidence of the author’s intent.

Put aside the nonsense aspect to the origination of the investigation for a moment; that part doesn’t apply here…. Accept their position ‘as if’ it is substantive.

We are talking about Brennan, Comey, Clapper and Yates telling President Obama and NSA Susan Rice that President-elect Trump is under a counterintelligence investigation where the suspicion is that Donald J Trump is an agent of a foreign power.

Under that auspices (fraudulent though it may be) the incoming President is a counterintelligence investigation target. A potentially compromised Russian asset. Under this auspices all of the officials would be permitted to lie and mislead their target, so long as they did so “By The Book.”

That’s their justification for a lengthy series of lies and false statements.

That’s why FBI Director James Comey can lie to the President and tell him he’s not the target of the ongoing Russia investigation. That’s the justification for keeping the accusations inside the Steele Dossier (remember, the Dossier is evidence) from the President-elect. That’s the justification for all of the officials to lie to President Trump, and even mislead the media if needed.

The Susan Rice email is one big Justification Letter; setting the stage for all of the participants to have a plausible reason for lies to anyone and everyone.

Call out John Brennan for telling Harry Reid about the Steele Dossier during his gang-of-eight briefing, but not telling Go8 member Devin Nunes about it. Brennan escapes by saying Nunes was on the Trump transition team; and briefing a conflicted politician on the dossier would have compromised the FBI investigation. See how that works?

Call out James Comey for lying to President-elect Trump during the January 6th Trump Tower meeting…. Comey escapes by saying Trump was a target of the FBI investigation for potential compromise as a Russian asset; informing the target of the evidence against him would have compromised the investigation. See how that works?

Every lie, every omission, every false and/or misleading statement, must first be filtered through the “By The Book” prism of Trump being considered a Russian asset. This is the justification trap democrats are waiting to exploit for maximum damage and diminishment of counter attack.

The “By the Book” justification, where every action could have been taken because Trump might have been an actual Russian operative, is the weapon under the camouflage tarp as the radical left lures-in their political opposition. They shrug their shoulders and say in condescending voice: ‘well, we didn’t know; we had to be prudent‘, etc.

Getting outraged about the Obama administration’s lies, misstatements and fabrications can backfire if you don’t first think about it from their constructed frame-of-reference.

The ‘By-the-Book’ framework is based on a false-premise; but the action, just about any action, taken to mislead (even undermine) the incoming administration is excusable under this carefully crafted justification memo. That’s exactly why Susan Rice wrote it; and each of the participating members knows they can use it, when needed.

The way to get around the legal and political defense inside this justification memo is to ignore the activity of those protected by it and go directly to the origin of how they created that false premise in the first place:

♦ President Trump can prove the July 31st, 2016, Crossfire Hurricane counterintelligence operation originated from a scheme within the intelligence apparatus by exposing the preceding CIA operation that created the originating “Electronic Communication” memo. Declassify that two-page “EC” document that Brennan gave to Comey.  [The trail is found within the Weissmann report and the use of Alexander Downer – SEE HERE]

♦ Release and declassify all of the Comey memos that document the investigative steps taken  by the FBI as an outcome of the operation coordinated by CIA Director John Brennan in early 2016.  [The trail was memorialized by James Comey – SEE HERE]

♦ Reveal the November 2015 through April 2016 FISA-702 search query abuse by declassifying the April 2017 court opinion written by FISC Presiding Judge Rosemary Collyer. Show the FBI contractors behind the 85% fraudulent search queries. [Crowdstrike? Fusion-GPS? Nellie Ohr? Daniel Richman?]  The was a weaponized surveillance and domestic political spying operation. [The trail was laid down in specific detail by Judge Collyer – SEE HERE]

♦ Subpoena former DOJ-NSD (National Security Division) head John Carlin, or haul him in front of a grand jury, and get his testimony about why he hid the abuse from the FISA court in October 2016; why the DOJ-NSD rushed the Carter Page application to beat NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers to the FISA court; and why Carlin quit immediately thereafter. Squeeze this bastard’s nuts in the proverbial legal vice.

♦ Prove the Carter Page FISA application (October 2016) was fraudulent and based on deceptions to the FISA Court. Declassify the entire document, and release the transcripts of those who signed the application(s); and/or depose those who have not yet testified. The creation of the Steele Dossier was the cover-up operation. [SEE HERE]

♦ Release all of the Lisa Page and Peter Strzok text messages without redactions. Let sunlight pour in on the actual conversation(s) that were taking place when Crossfire Hurricane (July ’16) and the FISA Application (Oct ’16) were taking place.  The current redactions were made by the people who weaponized the intelligence system for political surveillance and spy operation.  This is why Page and Strzok texts are redacted!

♦ Release all of Bruce Ohr 302’s, FBI notes from interviews and debriefing sessions, and other relevant documents associated with the interviews of Bruce Ohr and his internal communications. Including exculpatory evidence that Bruce Ohr may have shared with FBI Agent Joseph Pientka. [And get a deposition from this Pientka fella] Bruce Ohr is the courier, carrying information from those outside to those on the inside.

♦ Release the August 2nd, 2017, two-page scope memo provided by DAG Rod Rosenstein to special counsel Robert Mueller to advance the fraudulent Trump investigation, and initiate the more purposeful obstruction of justice investigation. Also Release the October 20th, 2017, second scope memo recently discovered.  The Scope Memos are keys to unlocking the underlying spy/surveillance cover-up. [SEE HERE and SEE HERE]





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533 Responses to Chaff and Countermeasures – The DC Outrage Traps…

  1. dan understahl says:

    I do not think that they are that smart, I just do not. They spin after the fact, not so much before the fack, Comey might be an exception

    Liked by 1 person

    • Mark McQueen says:

      IMO the question is not whether they are that smart, it’s whether the people in the places that matter are that dumb.

      Liked by 3 people

    • SCOTT ZUNDEL says:

      This was planned with the support of the Chamber and Republican elites by people like Brennan who have spent their lives planning similar operations. They are that smart.

      Liked by 2 people

      • conservalicious says:

        Elites like John McCain, Jeff Flake, Paul Ryan perhaps?

        Liked by 4 people

      • I can’t ‘like’ your comment, but I do AGREE with it.

        Liked by 1 person

      • The Demon Slick says:

        It’s not about smart, it’s about arrogance. Hubris, if you will. They never thought that President Trump would win, so they did things expecting to be taken care of. She lost. Now they’re going to be taken care of in a way that’s quite different from what they expected. As far as this theory from Sundance, I rarely disagree but here I do. The outrage trap might be a real construct of the coup plotters, but even if it is, it doesn’t have a chance at success. The email is written after the fact. Not before. And let me explain a little bit of why President Trump is steamrolling the uniparty. Think of previous Presidents, and how they did things. They would plan to do something like healthcare or taxes. They would roll out a plan. They would have press conferences, send surrogates on tv, for months, they would focus on the thing they were doing, whatever it was. They wouldn’t be doing anything else, just that thing. This allows the enemedia and the uniparty to focus on stopping that one thing. The presidency could spend 6 months like that. BUT NOT PRESIDENT TRUMP. He’s a worker bee. He’s got a hundred and 50 irons in the fire, and he’s tracking every one of them at all times. He’s coming at them from so many directions at once, it’s like he’s got them surrounded. They block his right hook and the uppecut gets through. They’re staggered, reeling. They’re too lazy and incompetent to withstand the onslaught. They’re used to the just one thing at a time approach. The same thing applies here. President Trump hasn’t been ONLY defending himself. He’s accomplished a lot while it was going on. And anyone who thinks he hasn’t been planning for this moment is in for a big suprise. If you strike at the king, you better kill the king. They barely scratched him. There’s 2 people I never want to see lying in bed looking at the ceiling and thinking about how to stick it to me…. Bill Belichek and President Donald J Trump.

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        • drlou007 says:

          Don’t miss sundance’s main point: the plotters have their excuse lined up for all the ‘outrage stuff’, everything that occurred after the coup began, i.e. ‘we honestly believed that Trump was colluding with the Russians and was under Russian control, so we had to investigate’. If we focus on the ‘outrage points’ (they sent in spies, they wiretapped, they lied, etc.), that provides the conspirators breathing room to play out their defense. If we focus on the beginning…how the counterintelligence investigation began, we are on the much stronger ground, as the creeps have no defense for using the dossier and lying to the FISA Court or using foreign spies to circumvent our laws.


    • lurker2 says:

      When people are driven by high emotion, and irrational emotion at that, they usually do not act smartly. Then couple that with the apparent fact that most involved behaved like teenagers … I’m glad President Trump called out Strzok and Page for their behavior. What a couple of dummies using their work phones to conduct their extramarital affair! They didn’t want their spouses to find out but didn’t worry that the IG or anyone else would???? You have to be seriously stupid to operate like that.

      Liked by 5 people

    • justlizzyp says:

      Somebody in the cabal was clever enough to see the long term benefits of setting up a counter intelligence investigation. Conveniently enough, now that all sorts of investigative material has been gathered via methods they never could have employed during a criminal investigation, Congressional Democrats have a decent shot at throwing enough of a tantrum that they can use all that material to slime anyone they want. Would have been much harder for them if it had been a criminal investigation.


  2. Free Speech says:

    And all predicated on the idea the DNC emails came from a ‘Russian hack’ (proven LIE by Bill Binney + CHRIS WRAY and FBI conveniently accepting CrowdStrike’s assessment of servers without the FBI seeing themselves). And Barr conveniently laid out the Russian hack story for them in his press conference. And the British government (in on it) has Assange right now.


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  3. Jeanna Green says:

    What I don’t understand, is how so many believe that these totally Corrupt Lying Politicians and Traitors will have any integrity, dignity, honesty, or even human decency to tell the truth under oath. They have already showed they are all liars and working to cover up corrupt actions from their party members. Do people think putting their hand on a Bible, makes the truth spew out. They will continue to lie while trying to reflect their corrupt actions, and that is just going to be it. Don’t have enough faith in our Justice System when we know there are still Obama obstructionist within all parts of our Government. President Trump and AG Barr have their hands full shoveling through all their BS lies while telling the Radical Dems to pound sand with their attempts to distract, deflect, and cover up for their Corrupt Traitors Hillary and Obama. That also includes those in Obama’s Administration like Holder, Comey, Jared, Rice, ETC… Hell, to many to name. How could this ever be allowed and needs to be put right. Justice must prevail for America’s Continued Future.

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    • Thinker says:

      They have to lie to continue with the story. I am sure they are practicing with their attorney so their stories don’t conflict with earlier testimonies or statements to the media. But they will NEVER tell the truth.

      Liked by 1 person

    • Dutchman says:

      The point of getting them under oath, is they can’t later deny what they said.

      If you look at the details of Horowits I.G. report on McCabe, unlike FBI with their 302 nonsense, the I.G. investigators TAPE recorded their interviews with McCabe, openly.
      After further investigation, and finding clear evidence he was lieing, they interviewed him again, and he tried the “No, thats NOT what I said!”, and it didn’t work, cause they had him on tape.
      THATS the advantage of sworn testimony/depositions.
      Puts them in the
      Which, usually doesn’t go over so well, and didn’t work for McCabe.

      Liked by 1 person

    • John-Y128 says:

      About the only thing that can influence liars is the Gallows, not the Bible.

      Liked by 1 person

  4. THIS article nails it. When Comey testified about not knowing who was behind the Steele dossier and then added that it was some republicans, he was technically wrong but GENERALLY correct.
    THERE is no way this coup would have gotten as far as it has WITHOUT republican support.

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    • mnlakes says:

      Senator Graham was a big part of that Bipartisan support so he has either seen the light or he’s a great actor working towards re-election and then goes back to his old ways.


    • TPW says:

      Really dont know if any republicans were involved in what Sundance is referring to I believe the beginning of this whole corrupt mess has Obama and his administrations finger prints all over it. It was before they directly targeted Trump…..thats my take. By the way I am having a heck of a time posting …usually only get one in ….the rest go poof …this has been going on for a while. I have also noticed total post have been down for almost 2 months.


  5. The answer to “so what”? “Good to know you’ll be fine with the same from the incumbent to the opposition in the upcoming election- I mean, he DID honeymoon in the USSR/interfere in Ukrainian government/and so on……”


  6. Ipse Dipxit says:

    But ol’ Pete edited out “Gross Negligence” from the “investigation” that Jimmy programmed for Hellary and Jill McCabe’s campaign got $700,000 from sources close to Hellary’s boy, McAuliffe ( does Virginia law really let her keep what she did not spend in the campaign?), etc., etc., etc.


  7. Sean Ginley says:

    Wow! Can we please do the right thing and bring all to Justice? Mr. Obama allowed all to happen. He and his people brought this Beautiful Country to its knees. I thank God every single day for this President (Donald Trump). Just think if Hillary Clinton would have won. All of the 8 years of corrupt government would have continued, this country would be done as we have all known it. I don’t know how in the world they got away with this up until know (hopefully) now.


  8. MAGAbear says:

    I dunno, any info that comes out that makes the Russian hoax perpetrators look bad is a good thing in my book. The more the better.

    Liked by 1 person

    • lurker2 says:

      I agree. Even if they don’t go to prison their reputations are, or will be, permanently damaged.


    • David A says:

      Yes, if the prior steps, outlined by Sundance, before the CI was initiated are proven then the ” By the book” excuse becomes counter-productive to the coup plotters. The very premise of the CI is shown as corrupt and del perpetuated garbage. Then those absurd, formerly defensible, CI actions, are yet more evidence of obstruction and sedition.

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  9. Summer says:

    Let’s not overthink, Sundance. Every angle should be explored. Every. Angle.

    Also, let’s not forget that the only thing that really matters is AG Barr is investigating the predicate. He stated that himself. Is there any reason to believe he is not investigating?

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  10. Azrajo says:

    Start with the lynchpin Bob Bauer, PerkinsCoie


  11. stats_guy says:

    I totally agree with this. The real predicate is that everyone who counts (i.e. the big money) hate Trump, and yes they’ll band together to get rid of him. They’ll happily support Biden over Trump.

    To actually think that Trump was an agent of Moscow is preposterous on its face. Simply a ruse to hide their hatred. We do not have two functional parties. Mitch McConnell hasn’t said boo about Meuller report since its release, preferring to dabble in raising the tobacco and vaping age to 21, and legalizing the Hemp trade. (KY used to grow lots of hemp).

    So there’s no one, aside from the few House members, that are going to same anything nice. Uniparty is the correct term…we no longer have a two party system.

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    • Dutchman says:

      Haven’t had a two party system for AT LEAST 60 years, probably longer.

      And understanding HOW the Uniparty works, is KEY to defeating it. Simply recognising the fact we have a ONE party rule, masquerading as two parties, is a major first step, but ONLY a first step.

      Need to understand HOW the Uniparty works, in order to defeat it. Just like this coup attempt, there are layers upon layers of deceit.
      Getting distracted by the election fraud, i.e. BALLOT fraud, keeps us distracted from the equally or more significant ELECTION fraud, perpetrated by both faces, using gerrymandering and fraud in PRIMARIES to manipulate the election process, along with ‘wedge’ issues, is collectively a greater manipulation than ballot fraud.

      Create the conditions where an election can be decided by a few 1000 votes, by these other, stealth methods. THEN ballot fraud works.

      Those who do not study their history, are doomed to repeat it.
      Those who do not study their enemy,
      are doomed to lose the war.
      The greatest lie Satan ever devised, is the one that says he doesn’t exist.

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      • Fools Gold says:

        Yah have lived for 62 years of history and know how they work and what’s up. I’ve been trying to primary the SOB’s all my life which is the constitutional way to rid it. Would help if we could break up the monopoly on broadcasting networks. It and destroying Hollywood would go along ways in ridding folks of all the propaganda being broadcast via Radio Frequencies and pretty much end the threat of communism in this country. That needs to be agenda one imho or one day there will be a reckoning with a lot of hanging and civil war.

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        • Orygun says:

          It always comes back to the media. No matter how much truth is to be found on the internet the media buries it with their 24 hour blitz of lies. It has to stop if we want any chance to see an honest and servile government.

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  12. drlou007 says:

    sudance, you’ve hit the ball out of the park again! Focus on the predicate, the justification for the start of their surveillance on Trump. And don’t forget the cover-up of the DNC server. The FBI buying into crowd strike’s “finding” is and always has been total nonsense.

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    • David A says:

      Trump also mentioned the Weinner lap top, the server, the destruction of HRC emails, the FBI obstruction, the FBI non under oath, no stenographer present interview of HRC, etc…

      Liked by 2 people

  13. Judiciary says:

    Already, Rosenstein is out there shaking his finger at the Obama Administration for failing to take the Russia “threat” more seriously. Not one word about their part in smearing Trump as part of the “threat” they supposedly failed to take seriously.


  14. Fools Gold says:

    Correct me if I’m wrong Sundance but I think you’re saying we’re going into the plausible deniability phase that attempts to protect the conspirators on both sides of the isle. Your plan is the best response and lady justice is suppose to be color blind. We’re about to find out what kind of man Barr is and whether these evil folks answer for their evil deeds. Scary but sure will be interesting in the near future. Gonna be a long hot summer!


    • Dutchman says:

      I think we already have enough to make a detirmination as to “what kind of a man Barr is”, at least I have. Understanding how “trust the plan” burned us, I THINK, and BELIEVE Barr will not be deterred, or distracted, pressured or derailed.
      I THINK and Believe he is gonna take this ALL the way, even if it leads to Obama and Hillary.
      I THINK he truly is a honey badger, even if he LOOKS like a cheshire cat.
      And honey badgers just don’t care, how BIG their opponent is, how strong or scary their opponent is.
      Pack of jackals, lions, poisonous, feroscious(sp) they JUST DON’T CARE.
      IMHO, these idiots are toast, are already in orange jumpsuits with shackles, POSSIBLY half way up 13 steps, and know it.

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  15. Tom McAllister says:

    Note the part: “…we are mindful to ascertain if there is any reason that we cannot share information fully as it relates to Russia.” That’s their license to lie and/or withhold information…for “any reason”.

    Sundance lays out a good strategy to counter their narrative and I hope the WH is taking notes! As an additional step perhaps someone should slyly interview Obama about the level of Russian interference into the election. His ego and arrogance won’t permit him to say it was really intense or widespread lest he look bad for not doing anything about it. Thus, if he downplays Russian interference, it’d be very hard to come back and say it was unprecedented with the serious possibility that a presidential candidate (Trump) might be Russian agent, stooge, or plant.


  16. fanbeav says:

    I wonder if swamp RINO senators are holding impeachment over President Trump’s head if he does not let this go? I mean there are surely 20 swamp RINO senators not up for reelection that would be willing to take one for the uniparty team?


    • Matthew LeBlanc says:

      I almost wish they dare to. An impeachment hearing in the Senate would allow a gloves off no holds barred death match for survival. No doubt PDJT would win that easily while allowing the country to watch in horror at our elected officials.

      Liked by 1 person

      • Dutchman says:

        Such a trial, in the Senate would be a bridge too far, as it would expose the vulnerable undrrbelly of the Uniparty; the Decepticons.

        I believe that is already off the table, and PDJT would call their bluff and they know it.

        The whole focus on making a case for obstruction, all along was to give Republicons in Senate cover, to vote FOR impeachment.
        The burden of proof hasn’t been met by Mueller, Republicons would be too exposed, so a backdown to plan B.

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  17. CNN_sucks says:

    Seems like the MO who were caught spying were asked to resign. When is Pence going to resign?


  18. Zippy says:

    The Russian’s absolute FAVORITE candidate in 2016 – known to them to be massively corrupt and eminently blackmailable. Trump – unknown quantity.:

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  19. NJF says:

    Here we go. Not surprisingly SD was correct.

    Liked by 1 person

    • fanbeav says:

      The testifying SHOULD NOT be in front of House or Senate, but a Grand Jury or better yet Military Tribunal!

      I can’t stand the Kabuki theater and as a bonus we get to hear democrats praising these traitors while GOP are asking the right questions! Media will say it’s all political!

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      • Zippy says:

        I’m sure he’s referring to public testimony where every other question can’t be answered in an open forum, making the clueless public think that there IS a legitimate answer for each question that can’t be easily blown out of water with follow-up questions.

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      • Zippy says:

        “The testifying SHOULD NOT be in front of House or Senate, but a Grand Jury or better yet Military Tribunal!”

        I was thinking more like waterboarding.

        Liked by 1 person

    • Mark McQueen says:

      Brennan is in very little real danger testifying before Congress and he knows it. He has already lied with apparent impunity in previous testimony.

      Liked by 1 person

  20. rustybritches says:

    I don’t know what’s going on with word press but every time I try to leave a like it is showing me some kind of blank screen on the side board and then after the second one it will allow me to
    leave it but this time wouldn’t let me even do that, guess if this does not post will try logging on again and see if that helps

    Liked by 1 person

    • livefreeordieguy says:

      It is a WordPress quirk. If you post, the ‘like’ will start working for you again. It happens to me too. Sometimes I open a reply, ‘log in’ by hitting the ‘W’, type a few words, then cancel the reply… by ‘logging in’ that way the ‘like’ button works again. Hope that helps.

      Liked by 1 person

      • old45model says:

        Also, I think, if you log into WP and do not log out at the end of the session, you will be able to post and like without any hassles – IF on a PC. How it works for other platforms, I haven’t got a clue.
        I base this upon the fact that I originally signed in months ago and don’t have any hassles (when reading/posting from OZ – or it could be that because we hang upside down, WP treats us differently).


  21. Mortimer Snurd says:

    One flaw in the crooks hiding behind plausible denial.

    It’s one thing to withhold info from a “suspected target”. It’s also reasonable to have FBI types lurking in the bushes and listening/watching your every move …. then reporting back

    It’s a whole other thing to use foreign actors posing as Russians in order to entrap the target. Especially when you already know the entire basis for the investigation is a made up hoax.

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    • V says:


      The coup cabal’s three-legged stool




      All three legs were the coup cabal’s own fabricated lies, therefore there was no predicate, no justification for investigating, spying on Trump.

      The collusion-obstruction leg is broken.
      Their stool is now teetering on only two legs.

      The coup cabal’s Russia lies must not stand:

      ONE AND TWO:


      Background data and links for this here:

      V at April 25, 2019 6:11 pm
      V at April 25, 2019 7:53 pm
      V at April 26, 2019 10:03 am
      V at April 26, 2019 12:03 pm

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  22. Caius Lowell says:

    The biggest news of the third Hillary / Trump debate — according to ABC “News” — is Trump saying he would not accept the outcome of the election, which is the bedrock principle of “our democracy”:

    Should have known then that Democrat-Marxists would not accept the outcome of the election…

    Liked by 1 person

    • jx says:

      Clinton had on previous occasions asked the question and Trump had answered. She was hectoring him with the intent to goad him into preemptively forfeiting his right to contest a close election.

      She knew she was losing. She could not draw crowds. Everyone knew it except those hypnotized by the frothing media’s cheerleading.

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  23. livefreeordieguy says:

    So Vice President Pence has fallen into the trap ( )…. He actually calls the FBI attempting to infiltrate his team “an outrage”… But at least he is pointing toward the origins of the hoax…

    The quote: “This is an outrage and only underscores why we need to get to the bottom of how this investigation started in the first place.”


  24. Dr.Jay says:



  25. Lindenlee says:

    Agreed, not greed.


  26. KPomeroy says:

    The group of people who are really trying to take Trump down are the New World Order elite. Susan Rice is a member of the Committee of 300, the major transnational illuminati group of royalty and billionaires that are pushing the NWO agenda. McDonough is the son of William Joseph McDonough, also on the Committee of 300. (I’m trying to check if Ben Rhodes is related to William Rhodes, one of the 300). This Committee, based in London, has a lot of royal personages from Europe, familiar banking names such as the R********ds, famous tycoons like Soros, Gates, Buffet, and even Bill Clinton. It’s amazing Trump can hold his own, and he’s doing an honorable job. The Committee of 300 is listed at

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  27. RandSec says:

    “So what” implicitly admits guilt. That already takes them beyond trying to hide what happened. Now they are arguing that, for them, under those circumstances, breaking the law was OK.

    “So what” is exactly the issue we need exposed: Is it OK for the President and his people to violate the law if THEY claim it is important?

    The issue is nothing less than the essence of rule-by-law and limitations on government.

    Hopefully that issue will be fully exposed in court.


  28. Carson Napier says:

    “From their position all of these efforts were undertaken because they were dealing with the possibility of a U.S. President who might be under the control of a foreign government.”

    If one accepts this, one would pretty much have to accept their right to literally assassinate him, the only sure way to stop a a U.S. President who might be under the control of a foreign government.

    If these people are allowed to get away with this, they will be able to get away with anything and the Founding Fathers will say, “We now wish we had let King George stay in control as he wasn’t nearly this bad”..

    Liked by 1 person

  29. cwf60 says:

    Senators Grassley and Johnson are giving cover to the coup? Is there anyone that will help the president get to the bottom of this flagrant attack on our country? Many Republicans will be outed for participation in trying to remove the president. No one held accountable for Fast and Furious, I R S targeting, or Benghazi. The three amigos were there for show with no intention of indicting anyone. All part of the destruction of the country.


  30. cwf60 says:

    Senators Grassley and Johnson are giving cover to the coup? Is there anyone that will help the president get to the bottom of this flagrant attack on our country? Many Republicans will be outed for participation in trying to remove the president. No one held accountable for Fast and Furious, I R S targeting, or Benghazi. The three amigos were there for show with no intention of indicting anyone. All part of the destruction of the country.

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  31. Dr.Jay says:

    President Trump on Thursday renewed his vow to declassify a wide swath of “devastating” documents related to the Russia probe “and much more” – adding that he’s glad he waited until the Mueller investigation was complete.

    In a Thursday night phone interview on Fox News, host Sean Hannity asked “will you declassify the FISA applications, gang of 8 material, those 302s – what we call on this program ‘the bucket of five’?”

    To which Trump replied: “Yes, everything is going to be declassified – and more, much more than what you just mentioned. It will all be declassified, and I’m glad I waited because i thought that maybe they would obstruct if I did it early – and I think I was right. So I’m glad I waited, and now the Attorney General can take a look – a very strong look at whatever it is, but it will be declassified and more than what you just mentioned.”

    OK good 🙂

    But … when? Soon?


    • Mortimer Snurd says:

      My guess is he’s waiting until the IG report comes out on FISA abuse.

      I think that’s what I would do.


      • S Bishop says:

        Exactly! I think Barr is on the same page. His little peek behind the predication curtain will be completed in conjunction with the IG and Huber reports. Then all the ducks will be lined up. Hopefully we will see a tsunami of information and indictments on the corruption that will overwhelm the swamp players and tee up the 2020 election while they are checking the clean-up in aisle 4.


  32. Sean Supsky says:

    The rope gets longer and longer.

    Surely this trap was seen in advance, as you yourself, Sundance, had pointed it out.

    Can this not be a case of anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law?

    Once they admit what they have done and the real predicate is revealed, they have no retreat and are then able to be held accountable for their admissions of unlawful actions and words.

    Only my two cents worth.

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  33. Beau Geste says:

    There is probably a paper trail (“classified” of course) of how Obama/DOJ/FBI money got to Halper and Misfud, to pay the $3,000 “honorarium” and airfare to Papadopolous, and the $10,000 to Papadopolous that the FBI hoped to find on papaD when he returned to the US. Judicial Watch should FOIA it. The AG should get it. Halper was paid $400,000 during the 2016 campaign for “research”, apparently by the Department of defense. Lots of payments are made from one US Agency through another, to intentionally hide the origin.
    Whatever contract was made with halper, misfud, Page (as a paid DoD, FBI, CIA spy), the Israeli who geve $10,000 to Papadopolous, is still in the US agency records. Whatever reasons or authorizations there were for transferring money from DOJ/FBI/CIA to halper via the Department of Defense , are in the US Government records.

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  34. Truthfilter says:

    Mary McCord sure has had her hands in all the deep state’s cookie jars. Since she left her DOJ/NSA position in May of 2017, she’s been busy advocating behind the scenes for nothing less than tyranny.

    First-a little background:
    “McCord joined the National Security division of the Justice Department in 2014, during the Obama administration, and became acting Assistant Attorney General of the Department in 2016, following the resignation of John Carlin. [She led the Trump-Russia counterintelligence operation from November 2016 to May 2017]. Previously, she served as the Criminal Division Chief in the Washington D.C. U.S. attorney’s office for 20 years.”

    (Note: McCord was in charge of the Benghazi investigation. Go figure.)

    Obama’s tool? Mary McCord testified to Congress on behalf of the OBama Administration about the Iran Deal—specifically on the cash payments to Iran. (September 2016)

    Click to access HHRG-114-BA09-Wstate-McCordM-20160908.pdf

    There is very little information online about Mary McCord. The professional information is carefully crafted. Before she left in May 2017, she had two big press releases in April:

    1) The 42-count indictment of 2 Russian nationals (spies) and 2 hackers who allegedly stole millions of Yahoo and other email accounts. This was the “first time the U.S. government has criminally charged Russian spies for cyber offences.” (Note: These hacks were separate from the DNC/Clinton hacks but this fact wasn’t emphasized in media reports.)
    2)Indictment of state department employee Candace Claiborne for Chinese espionage. (My thoughts: There has to be more to this Claiborne story. That case has sat dormant for 2 years. Not one image exists of Claiborne. Her internet presence has been completely erased.)

    Mary McCord gave no reasons for resigning in May 2017. Maybe she needed to care for a sick and dying parent.

    James McCord, Jr.-of Watergate fame-died 2 years ago-just one month after Mary resigned from NSA. He was a CIA operative. His death was kept secret until a WAPO article announced it just two weeks ago. Even WAPO can’t explain why his death went unnoticed for 2 years. (I’m sure they could if they wanted to. Isn’t WAPO the CIA’s mouthpiece?). None of the media reports about his death name his 3 children. This link might explain the secrecy but it makes no mention of his possibly having a daughter at NSA who was neck deep in the Trump Russia hoax just one month before he died.

    When we consider that both Peter Strzok and Christine Blasey Ford are children of CIA, it’s not hard to imagine that Mary McCord might be one too. Certainly, the Deep State wouldn’t have wanted the world to know that a key figure in the Trump Russia coup attempt was the daughter of a CIA operative whose own actions took down a sitting president 45 years ago.

    Since leaving the DOJ/NSA in May 2017, Mary McCord has been an outspoken critic of volunteer militias and paramilitary groups—such as the Oath Keepers, etc. She has been advising local and state governments on how to legally prevent these groups from organizing and how to keep out-of-state militias from showing up in places like Charlottesville, Seattle, and along our undefended southern border. This obvious obsession with stopping armed resistance and defense groups also implies a possible fear that the formation of these groups could increase in the future.

    Because most of today’s illegal immigrants are brown skinned, we must support open borders or be called a racist/white supremacist by the Left. Therefore, all Trump supporters are racists and any militia or paramilitary group who shows up at the border is a white supremacist movement-akin to the KKK. Even ICE is a KKK equivalent, according to Kamala Harris. This kind of political misdirection is the craft of McCord and several other white elites at Lawfare and Georgetown.

    McCord is also part of the litigation team who is filing lawsuits and briefs against adding the citizenship question to the 2020 census. She is also part of a group from Georgetown who is defending churches on the border against imminent domain (to build the wall.) So far, her side is losing these cases.

    Click and scroll down for links of news articles and cases involving Mary McCord as summarized above. (Yeah-I read most of them. Know thine enemy.)

    McCord is behind the recent media talking points that tied President Trump to the synagogue shooting and New Zealand mosque attack. According to her, the shooter’s mindset was similar to PDT’s in that they both used the word “invasion.” Much of what the MSM says comes from McCord and all the other ex-officials now working at Lawfare, Georgetown, and at the fake news media outlets.

    Mary McCord wants the feds to have the power to track so-called patterns of online hate speech to prevent “right wing extremist” terror attacks. She also wants Silicon Valley to play the same game. She has been going around the country speaking on cyber security and advocating to big tech companies what basically amounts to censorship. Perhaps we can thank her for the past two years of increasing censorship of the right by YouTube, Twitter, Google, Facebook, etc. The goal is to silence any and all political dissent. Most recently, she has gone after Cloudfare and other companies who offer encryption security to so-called “hate groups.” I noticed that ANTIFA never makes her hate group list.

    It’s not just groups—she wants to go after individuals. In the past 3-6 months, Mary McCord has been leading the call for new federal policy on “domestic terrorism.” Specifically, she wants the federal government to be able to use the same investigative tools on American citizens as it does on international terrorist threats. Although she and her lawfare cohorts repeatedly use white supremacy groups as examples, such a law would implicate anyone who disagrees with government-in terms of making them a candidate for surveillance. She reasons that most “domestic terrorists” don’t organize or belong to any group but lone wolves often verbalize their beliefs online before they attack. As it stands, the feds can’t follow, access, or analyze this activity because they can’t surveil U.S. citizens and most lone wolf domestic terrorist attacks are handled by state and local authorities.

    McCord is already behind a new label, “incel”—which easily applies to any man who expresses anger at a woman or group of women. The goal seems to be to find as many reasons as possible to label and criminalize as many white guys as possible before they do anything wrong. Ms. McCord is a feminazi -in case you didn’t notice.

    The FBI association, of all people/s, is completely on board with McCord’s ideas. “The federal code includes a definition of domestic terrorism but has no penalties associated with it. A proposal floated by the FBI association would borrow the language of that definition — the use of violence for political means to intimidate or coerce a government or civilian population — and make it a crime no matter what type of weapon is used.” (So much for those good ole boys in the rank and file, huh?)

    The current mindset of the Left is much like that of 19th century slaveowners who created and enforced harsh slave codes as slave rebellions and talk of abolition increased. It’s also eerily similar to those intolerable acts imposed by the British on the Colonists just before the Revolution. The colonists’ “rights of Englishmen” under the British constitution were eventually rendered null and void. The reaction of the tyrant to his rebels is always to clamp down harder and harder. If Mary McCord and her leftist cabal ever succeed in what they brazenly admit they want to do to those of us who disagree with them, we will have to fight a war or live under their tyranny. Perhaps they already anticipate the choice we will make.

    I think Mary McCord lays out exactly what is coming if the swamp isn’t drained and the Left takes power in 2020. They will silence us through censorship, criminalize us through surveillance, replace us with third world immigrants, and tax us into poverty just to make sure that we never again have a way to elect another Donald Trump.

    Final question: Why hasn’t Mary McCord ever been called to testify before the Senate or House Intel Committees during their HRC/Trump-Russia investigations?

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    • Elle says:

      Very insightful! Looks like Mary’s next up. It is clear their goal is to turn us into slaves (free everything and “guaranteed” jobs) that they can traffic around the world as needed for cheap labor much like cattle and soybeans. Enjoy each day and thank God for the reprieve.

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    • V says:

      Very well done on exposing her and her nefarious deeds!

      From the moment her name first popped up in Sundance’s research, I wondered if she was related to Watergate’s James McCord.

      Liked by 1 person

    • ann says:

      That is frightening, Truthfilter. DARPA DOD houses an ongoing research project tasked with increasingly accurate models used to predict behavior. applies to crowds, groups and individuals, for applucation in “unstable milieus” under a national security umbrella. .


  35. Paul says:

    1. Susan Rice memo-to-self.
    2. Consent Agreement between DOJ and the FBI
    3. Immunity deals (Will be Reverse)
    4. FBI/DOJ not following normal investigative/prosecutorial policies and procedures on Hillary Emails.
    5. Etc. etc. etc…

    Prosecutors will follow the Evidence (Paper/Digital) trails which will be matched to the Criminal Codes and the case will be built (Smoke and Mirrors will not work).

    Prosecutors will charge many with perjury.

    Prosecutors will match thousands of pages of depositions with other depositions, paper/digital trails and other sworn testimonies; many will be charged with perjury.

    Prosecutors will call for long prison sentences for perjury and any others who are trapped and selectively flip them to become a witness for the Prosecution.

    Many will not have enough money for a defense and will become a witness for the Prosecution.

    Many whistleblowers have or will be coming forward.

    The criminals were so sloppy in leaving so many trails of evidence because they thought Hillary would be President; IMO this will be the easiest criminal case in United States History.


  36. curator55 says:

    sundance wrote–“All of their actions are easily justified from the standpoint of a possibility the inbound President was compromised. “We were riddled with anxiety”, they say”

    That is exactly what Andrew McCabe was doing on 60 minutes. Demonstrating to the nation that the FBI’s investigation was fully justified and not only legal but a responsibility they could not avoid given Trump’s comments and actions.

    sundance is obviously correct in uncovering the original sources of the Coup attempt and how they illegally used the Intel Agencies etc. Those that joined the COUP attempt during its final stage will be the hardest to indict because they “were just following orders” from their superiors unless clear irrefutable evidence is available.

    McCabe’s “I was a hero fighting for the survival of the USA” tactic seems to have worked well for him so far as he might have already been cleared??


    • curator55 says:

      McCabe’s prepared script in the video attempts to justify the “By the Book” Counter Intelligence investigation against Trump. When you hear his well rehearsed excuse, it becomes glaringly obvious that sundance is 100 % correct about “going directly to the origin” first and foremost rather than being ensnared in a field of outrage traps that will likely go nowhere.


      • I am LE and leak to my buddy (who’s a reporter) that you’re under investigation for beating your wife. My buddy the reporter publishes the information claiming confidential sources. You deny it. I launch an investigation based on the reporting. I have to because I read it in the paper and it could be true. I spend a year investigating and can’t find anything. My colleague volunteers to pick up where I left off and spends another year investigating. All the while you maintain and complain loudly that the whole thing is a setup. You’re ignored and the investigations continue. When, years later, the new boss steps in and says “put up or shut up” we publish our report that says we couldn’t find any evidence but that doesn’t exonerate you. Your neighbors now pick up the cause. You’re outraged and insist that this has to stop. We keep coming back with we were just doing our jobs because we read it in the paper and it could have been true.

        We know we’re toast as soon as someone figures out how it got into the paper in the first place.

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      • Elle says:

        Another BUY the book segment.


  37. iswhatitis says:

    Here’s a 6-minute interview, posted today from Georgetown University, with Ben Rhodes, Former Deputy National Security Advisor to President Obama. Interviewed by Nick Ballasy.

    Topics include the investigation into the origins of the Steele dossier.

    Lots of projection by Rhodes.

    (Apologies if this was previously posted. Been keeping up somewhat today, and don’t recall having seen it here at CTH).

    Former Obama Advisor: Investigating Origins of Russia Probe ‘Waste of Time’

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  38. Bogeyfree says:

    So if we go back to 2009, how do they “justify” these actions/programs on Americans?

    1) Hammer Program that we know about from NSA Whistleblower, Dennis Montgomery

    2) IRS targeting non-profit Americans/Tea Party affiliates

    3) 3rd Party Contractor queries on Americans

    4) 85% FISA abuse to surveil Americans

    Think about it. When one program failed or gathered to much “sun light” they moved to the next program.

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  39. iswhatitis says:

    This Youtube is a just over 4-minute overview of Spygate, and how it brought together lots of disparate corrupt officials; which could help President Trump clean up the mess – because now they are all together under one single scandal instead of spread out separately.

    The Epoch Times: How SpyGate Could Help President Trump

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    • V says:


      Their arrogant public self-exposure also seen in the 60+ former CIA , military, etc. who signed a letter in support of Brennan when Pres. Trump stripped him of his security clearance. Outed themselves as supporters of the coup.

      The letter’s signatories include former Directors of Central Intelligence, etc.

      Robert Gates
      William Webster
      George Tenet
      Porter Goss
      Michael Hayden (Atlantic Council member)
      Leon Panetta
      David Petraeus
      James Clapper
      John McLaughlin
      Stephen Kappes
      Avril Haines
      David Cohen
      Michael Morell (Atlantic Council member)

      Re: David Cohen – former Deputy CIA Director
      3-22-19 by Catherine Herridge

      There’s a gem in that one text between Lisa Page and McCabe with the name “Cohen” and linking him to Sally Yates at DOJ. IT’S PROOF OF THE NEXUS BETWEEN FBI DOJ and CIA in the coup.

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      • V says:


        “Panicking at the sight of Donald Trump’s Super Tuesday wins in March 2016, Brennan had by the following month formed the beginnings of a spying operation against him, and managed to enmesh a bunch of other agencies in it, thinking that would keep the outside of the CIA’s cup clean. How do we know this? Because a “senior” member of the intelligence community — back when such a figure thought talking out of school about such matters would serve the cause of delegitimizing Trump — leaked the existence of the operation to the BBC in January 2017:

        ‘Last April [2016], the CIA director was shown intelligence that worried him. It was – allegedly – a tape recording of a conversation about money from the Kremlin going into the US presidential campaign.

        ‘It was passed to the US by an intelligence agency of one of the Baltic States. The CIA cannot act domestically against American citizens so a joint counter-intelligence taskforce was created [WHEN? AND THAT STILL DOESN’T MAKE IT LEGAL, RUN OUT OF CIA OFFICES].

        ‘The taskforce included six agencies or departments of government. Dealing with the domestic, US, side of the inquiry, were the FBI, the Department of the Treasury, and the Department of Justice. For the foreign and intelligence aspects of the investigation, there were another three agencies: the CIA, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence and the National Security Agency, responsible for electronic spying. ‘ ”

        Article by Spectator cont’d (the above is a quote from the BBC within the article)

        “For all intents and purposes, Crossfire Hurricane did not begin in July 2016 but at the moment Trump emerged as Hillary’s rival [March 2016]. Brennan, shortly thereafter, was bringing CIA agents, FBI agents, NSA agents, and an assortment of Obama’s political aides together in one room at CIA headquarters to bat around ideas on how to smoke out the campaign of Hillary’s opponent. Out of these meetings came the plot to infiltrate the Trump campaign.”

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  40. farrier105 says:

    Sundance–I agree completely that Trump-Russia-Wikileaks started in 2015, but the most important point that needs to be uncovered is something different than the origin of the investigation. It is something related to it: How did they know Trump was going to get nominated since they put all of their investigative attention to Trump? The Iowa caucus hadn’t even been held, and it was months before the New Hampshire primary.

    Liked by 1 person

    • Elle says:

      It’s a good point, but I don’t think we know if they put all of their investigative attention to Trump. It will certainly further collapse their narrative if they can show they were also spying on Cruz, etc.

      Liked by 1 person

      • farrier105 says:

        It would be helpful if they were that stupid.


      • farrier105 says:

        Go to a comment I made on the above thread that will explain that the plotters have to have a predicate that falls in the April-May 2016 timeframe because MSM was saying Trump secured nomination then. They did not investigate any other candidates for colluding with Russia. Only Trump. If we can prove they started in 2015, they are doomed. No predicate could have justified what they did except an IMMINENT NOMINATION OF TRUMP, a suspected Russian asset. No time to conduct normal counterintelligence investigation. Exigent circumstance created.

        You’ll also find some interesting links about PERKINS COIE, the ubiquitous Hillary law firm in this mini-thread.

        The plotters need an April-May 2016 start of investigation to tie to imminent Trump nomination.


  41. Logophiliac says:

    Fairly new reader here. 1st time commenter. Question: are there senators or congressmen outside of the uniparty that would benefit from reading about the Outrage Trap as Sundance presents? Anyone who would read links to these articles (or at least have their staffers read them) so they can push the direction of investigations away from the trap and toward investigating the origins? Or are people in power already getting this info, ones that are on the side of truth and justice?


  42. Curious says:

    This article had me worried that Senator Johnson was working against us to protect the corrupt FBI/DOJ participants in the coup attempt.

    During tonight’s MAGA rally in Green Bay, President Trump called out Sen Johnson several times and made it seem like Johnson was on our team. Hopefully he is. The only other possibility I see in calling a lot of attention to him is to put him on the spot. Let him know we are watching him closely and he can join us or get run over!

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