REMINDER: Susan Rice’s Justification Memo and James Comey Investigation Memos – Beware The Outrage Trap…

With the Mueller probe complete; with AG Barr announcing a focus to review the intelligence operation in 2016; with Devin Nunes submitting criminal referrals; with Lindsey Graham probing CIA, DOJ and FBI conduct; with Doug Collins releasing ‘Spygate’ transcripts; with Inspector General Michael Horowitz closing in on the final stages of his FISA abuse investigation; and with President Trump contemplating declassification of documents applying sunlight on the Russia collusion/conspiracy hoax; there is an outrage trap which must be avoided….

The issue(s) surround President Obama and high-ranking Obama intelligence officials, notably: John Brennan, James Comey, James Clapper and Sally Yates intentionally lying and/or misrepresenting issues to president-elect Donald Trump and the transition team in/around the transition period and shortly after the January 20, 2017, inauguration.

Some of the misinformation stems from intelligence officials telling direct lies (ex. telling President-elect, and President Trump he was not under investigation). Other aspects were lies of omission surrounding the Steele Dossier during the January 6th, 2017, intelligence briefing session with the President-elect in Trump Tower.

In essence, there were many misleading and false statements, with varying scales of severity, during the period from November 9th, 2016, through mid-May 2017 when President Trump fired FBI Director James Comey.

(FBI Declarations about Comey Memos)

The FBI, DOJ, ODNI, CIA and intelligence officials were intentionally not being direct and honest with President Trump and key members of his new administration. Obviously their lack of honesty was a serious issue, and in some cases had serious ramifications.

The expressed finding by Robert Mueller’s two-year probe of ‘no Trump-Russia collusion, no Trump-Russia conspiracy, and no Trump-Russia obstruction’ has led to some hindsight reviews where anger surfaces about the now visible deception.  However, there is a trap laid here and Democrats are hoping outraged voices will walk straight into it. Some are already getting very close.

At 12:15pm on January 20th, 2017, Obama’s outgoing National Security Advisor Susan Rice wrote a memo-to-self. Many people have called this her “CYA” (cover your ass) memo, from the position that Susan Rice was protecting herself from consequences if the scheme against President Trump was discovered. Here’s the email:

On January 5, following a briefing by IC leadership on Russian hacking during the 2016 Presidential election, President Obama had a brief follow-on conversation with FBI Director Jim Corney and Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates in the Oval Office. Vice President Biden and I were also present.

President Obama began the conversation by stressing his continued commitment to ensuring that every aspect of this issue is handled by the Intelligence and law enforcement communities “by the book“.

The President stressed that he is not asking about, initiating or instructing anything from a law enforcement perspective. He reiterated that our law enforcement team needs to proceed as it normally would by the book.

From a national security perspective, however, President Obama said he wants to be sure that, as we engage with the incoming team, we are mindful to ascertain if there is any reason that we cannot share information fully as it relates to Russia.

[Redacted Classified Section of Unknown length]

The President asked Corney to inform him if anything changes in the next few weeks that should affect how we share classified information with the incoming team. Corney said he would.

Susan Rice ~ (pdf link)

As stated, many have looked at this as a “CYA” memo, but that’s not what this is.

This is a justification memo, written by an outgoing National Security Advisor Susan Rice to document why there have been multiple false and misleading statements given to the incoming President Trump and all of his officials.

This is not a “CYA” memo, this is a justification memo for use AFTER the Trump-Russia collusion/conspiracy narrative collapsed; if the impeachment effort failed.

The “By The Book” aspect refers to President Obama and Susan Rice being told by CIA Director John Brennan, FBI Director James Comey, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, and Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates, that President Trump was the subject of an active counterintelligence investigation to determine if he was under the influence of the Russian government.

Even the timing of the memo, written 15 minutes prior to the end of the Obama administration, is ex-post-facto useful as evidence of the author’s intent.

Put aside the nonsense aspect to the origination of the investigation for a moment; that part doesn’t apply here…. Accept their position ‘as if’ it is substantive.

We are talking about Brennan, Comey, Clapper and Yates telling President Obama and NSA Susan Rice that President-elect Trump is under a counterintelligence investigation where the suspicion is that Donald J Trump is an agent of a foreign power.

Under that auspices (fraudulent though it may be) the incoming President is a counterintelligence investigation target. A potentially compromised Russian asset. Under this auspices all of the officials would be permitted to lie and mislead their target, so long as they did so “By The Book.”

That’s their justification for a lengthy series of lies and false statements.

That’s why FBI Director James Comey can lie to the President and tell him he’s not the target of the ongoing Russia investigation. That’s the justification for keeping the accusations inside the Steele Dossier (remember, the Dossier is evidence) from the President-elect. That’s the justification for all of the officials to lie to President Trump, and even mislead the media if needed.

The Susan Rice email is one big Justification Letter; setting the stage for all of the participants to have a plausible reason for lies to anyone and everyone.

Call out John Brennan for telling Harry Reid about the Steele Dossier during his gang-of-eight briefing, but not telling Go8 member Devin Nunes about it. Brennan escapes by saying Nunes was on the Trump transition team; and briefing a conflicted politician on the dossier would have compromised the FBI investigation. See how that works?

Call out James Comey for lying to President-elect Trump during the January 6th Trump Tower meeting…. Comey escapes by saying Trump was a target of the FBI investigation for potential compromise as a Russian asset; informing the target of the evidence against him would have compromised the investigation. See how that works?

Every lie, every omission, every false and/or misleading statement, must first be filtered through the “By The Book” prism of Trump being considered a Russian asset. This is the justification trap democrats are waiting to exploit for maximum damage and diminishment of counter attack.

The “By the Book” justification, where every action could have been taken because Trump might have been an actual Russian operative, is the weapon under the camouflage tarp as the radical left lures-in their political opposition. They shrug their shoulders and say in condescending voice: ‘well, we didn’t know; we had to be prudent‘, etc.

Getting outraged about the Obama administration’s lies, misstatements and fabrications can backfire if you don’t first think about it from their constructed frame-of-reference.

The ‘By-the-Book’ framework is based on a false-premise; but the action, just about any action, taken to mislead (even undermine) the incoming administration is excusable under this carefully crafted justification memo. That’s exactly why Susan Rice wrote it; and each of the participating members knows they can use it, when needed.

The way to get around the legal and political defense inside this justification memo is to ignore the activity of those protected by it and go directly to the origin of how they created that false premise in the first place:

♦ Prove the July 31st, 2016, Crossfire Hurricane operation originated from fraud by exposing the CIA operation that created the originating “Electronic Communication” memo. Declassify that two-page “EC” document that Brennan gave to Comey.

♦ Release and declassify all of the Comey memos that document the investigative steps taken  by the FBI as an outcome of the operation coordinated by CIA Director John Brennan in early 2016.

♦ Reveal the November 2015 through April 2016 FISA-702 search query abuse by declassifying the April 2017 court opinion written by FISC Presiding Judge Rosemary Collyer. Show the FBI contractors behind the 85% fraudulent search queries. [Crowdstrike? Fusion-GPS? Nellie Ohr?]

♦ Subpoena former DOJ-NSD (National Security Division) head John Carlin, or haul him in front of a grand jury, and get his testimony about why he hid the abuse from the FISA court in October 2016; why the DOJ-NSD rushed the Carter Page application to beat NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers to the FISA court; and why Carlin quit immediately thereafter. Squeeze this bastard’s nuts in the proverbial legal vice.

♦ Prove the Carter Page FISA application (October 2016) was fraudulent and based on deceptions to the FISA Court. Declassify the entire document, and release the transcripts of those who signed the application(s); and/or depose those who have not yet testified.

♦ Release all of the Lisa Page and Peter Strzok text messages without redactions. Let sunlight pour in on the actual conversation(s) that were taking place when Crossfire Hurricane (July ’16) and the FISA Application (Oct ’16) were taking place.

♦ Release all of Bruce Ohr 302’s, FBI notes from interviews and debriefing sessions, and other relevant documents associated with the interviews of Bruce Ohr and his internal communications. Including exculpatory evidence that Bruce Ohr may have shared with FBI Agent Joseph Pientka. [And get a deposition from this Pientka fella]

♦ Release the August 2nd, 2017, two-page scope memo provided by DAG Rod Rosenstein to special counsel Robert Mueller to advance the fraudulent Trump investigation, and initiate the more purposeful obstruction of justice investigation.

In short, avoid the “justification trap” by ignoring the downstream activity (stemming as a result of the fraudulent origin), and focus on revealing the origin of the fraud.

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254 Responses to REMINDER: Susan Rice’s Justification Memo and James Comey Investigation Memos – Beware The Outrage Trap…

  1. Bogeyfree says:

    Totally agree with this angle. It could give Barr the “political out” to look but conclude no foul and sweep this all away if they dont dig deep enough.

    I sure hope Sundance has sent these 8 action items to PT, Don Jr. PT attorneys, Graham, Meadows, Nunes, Hannity, Rush, Bongino, Powell, Undercover Huber and anyone else who will echo these keys.

    I can just hear Barr now, we looked and these folks had every right to mislead PT, no foul and the end!

    Liked by 7 people

    • Chip Doctor says:

      This assumes that Barr isn’t the real deal. I think he is until he shows me he isn’t.

      Liked by 1 person

      • dbobway says:

        We are getting fed bait right now from William Barr.
        Or our present AG may have found some moral clarity.
        I pray for the latter.

        I have to admit I save videos for inspiration.
        Yesterday I added another.
        When AG Barr, ‘yes’ I believe the Trump administration was being spied on by the FBI?
        The silence was defining.

        Every person in that room knew the truth already.
        There was no gasping, no booing, no applause, no mumbling.
        Just silence.

        Liked by 3 people

    • Grassleysgirl/Breitbartista says:

      Thanks for outlining the “justification outrage trap”.
      The cold anger has reached the boiling point for millions.


    • Richard Orberson says:

      A False statement is still a lie


  2. Here’s the problem with that analysis. It wasn’t done “by the book.” Starting with the FISA warrants. There is no excuse for the material omissions about the Steele Dossier. No judge, upholding their oath of office, would have signed those warrants had they known about what the FBI/DOJ knew about the sourcing and the credibility of their sources…I could continue but this was never a “by the book” investigation.

    Liked by 9 people

    • matthewpmusson says:

      Baker admitted in recently released testimony that he did not read the FISA Applications. He just signed them. (The ignorance defense).

      Essentially – the DOJ was ROBO-Signing FISA WARRANTS!

      Liked by 8 people

    • G. Alistar says:

      “By the book” memo will just delay the inevitable….wouldn’t it be the ultimate karma IF all this “big ugly” come to fruition say in November 2020?

      Liked by 1 person

    • Burnt Toast says:

      I still take the CYA “By the Book” memo as political cover for Obama.

      See, Obama, though ‘in the loop’ was misled though he insisted that everything was kosher.


      • Burnt Toast says:

        BUT, the best path to prosecution is to document the Obama Administration’s penchant for spying on American’s dating back to when he first took office.
        Trump was certainly not the only candidate they were spying on. Check the records on Romney, etc.


    • Bill says:

      The problem is none of their reasoning holds water when not ONE single person was busted for conspiring with Russia. So if their was explosive evidence to launch an investigation against a political campaign, there should have at very least been some low level staffer busted for Russian spying or something.


      Liked by 1 person

    • Mark Hudson says:

      Rosenstein said the same, he was verifiying that the others signed it before him, not for accuracy of the document. … { What I signed was a renewal application, approved three different times by a federal judge. It was signed under oath by an FBI agent who attested it was true and correct. If he was wrong, we’ll hold him accountable}…


  3. Jeff says:

    These people have been evil for a very long time, and they’re very good at it.

    Liked by 9 people

    • SalixVeridi says:

      Yes, truly evil, since there isn’t one of them that appears ashamed or contrite. None of them have come forward to reveal their participation; none have appeared to be afraid of any consequences.

      Ay, there’s the rub! They are not afraid. May the day come (soon!) that they quiver in their boots and can’t sleep at night. They have committed a major crime against not only the POTUS, but the American people!

      Liked by 4 people

      • Chip Doctor says:

        I wonder what the conversations are like between RR and Barr while they sit and go through the Mueller report.

        Barr: Rod, do you think that this paragraph was gotten illegally?

        RR: Yes, should we redact it?

        Barr: Yes, unless you want a husband later this year.

        RR: OK. Redacted it is. Sources and methods?

        Barr: Your call, Rod


  4. Sentient says:

    Remember: Biden’s not just a creeper who likes to touch little girls. He’s also a corrupt conspirator.

    Liked by 10 people

  5. jeans2nd says:

    Sen Grassley must also be included in those investigating the Russian Hoax. Sen Grassley is Chair of Senate Finance Cmte now, and announced two days ago in his Senate floor speech that he is also investigating the beginnings, or the origins/predicate of the Russian Hoax.

    Mad Max has met her match in Sen Grassley, methinks.

    Liked by 6 people

  6. WeThePeople2016 says:

    Liked by 7 people

  7. Jim in TN says:

    So, doesn’t justification sound like adequate predication?

    Is this where it is all going to end up, ‘they were all just doing their jobs’?

    And it all gets flushed down the drain, leaving them with official procedures to use in spying on their political opponents?

    If they don’t move to punish the culprits and make sure it never happens again, then the next emperor want a be will cross that Rubicon and take power and freedom from us all. The die is cast. I came, I saw, I conquered, and all that rot. At that point, not even the Ides of March can save us.

    Liked by 1 person

    • trialbytruth says:

      Think Nuremberg

      I am not buying the “just following orders defense”. That only works if the courts are willing to accept it. I know the frustration but i think the tide is turning.

      President Trump gets even he will use his bloody pulpit to push this into the courts. I know many question whether or Not Barr is the man. But the bar is not set that high(yeah I know).

      We are not asking Barr to be a wing man. All we are asking is that he be honest and true to his oath. Let us allow him to rise to this opportunity. The task in front of him is not easy. He will however be remembered in history as the man that took down Americas first coup. That is more important then dinner and drinks at the mayflower.

      Liked by 1 person

      • 2zymos says:

        The courts have SERIOUS SERIOUS compromise on board and are not YET prepared to handle the coming trials — neither were the courts in germany prepared in the months after the war…
        So military tribunals were used to kick-start the justice system in Germany… as we will do the same here.
        The attack on America, her courts, her legislatures, and her executives with the usurper barry soetoro aka barack obama in the lead WAS SEVERE AND VERY DAMAGING. Our recovery and distribution of justice CANNOT yet be accomplished by our DOJ and Article 3 courts system alone — we have a domestic enemy and we have a cold [almost hot] civil war ongoing.
        Picture 9th circuit courts “trying” treasonous officials… how can we get justice from that?
        Hold on to your hat… things get seriously unprecedented before they get better and “more” normal.

        Liked by 2 people

    • If Then says:

      The idea that ” it all gets flushed down the drain” would mean that PDJT hasn’t considered and planned *against* this happening, and that he doesn’t have the power and influence to make sure it *doesn’t* happen! I find that extremely difficult to believe.


  8. Kaiser Derden says:

    I’m sorry but there is no outrage trap here … that is just SJW made up nonsense …

    you’ve outlined a great way forward … just stick to that … drop the ALL CAPS BOLD … BEWARE THE OUTRAGE TRAP … nobody knows what you mean and nobody really cares …
    we are outraged … and all bystanders … the actual performers in this (Congress critters, Trump, Barr, et al) are NOT LISTENING to you …

    free advice is worth what was paid for it of course … both mine and yours …

    Liked by 1 person

  9. bluebongo says:


    The baiting of the President to get him to commit obstruction is “by the book”. They already knew collusion was a ruse.

    The genesis of the cover up for spying on the President lies with the signatures on the FISA warrants.

    Serious felonies, perjury at the least, treason and sedition more likely since there’s a clear motive, and the gang has proven commie ideologies.

    “If that bastard wins we’re all gonna hang!”

    Barr guilted Congress into looking across the 16 intelligence agencies for oversight, that was a monumental shift for DC. Sessions never said a word.

    You’re right Sundance, there’s a lot of people not sleeping well now.

    Revenge, a dish best served cold.

    Liked by 2 people

    • 2zymos says:

      In time, you will see the power and consequence of Jeff Sessions selfless sacrifice in the furtherance of freedom, liberty and this great Constitutional republic.
      Deception from July 2016 to Dec 2018 was necessary for inauguration, investigation, indictments, and counter-strike.
      Sessions played a key role.
      In due time…


  10. WSB says:

    Greg Craig has just been indicted. According to Sean Hannity at Fox.


  11. alliwantissometruth says:

    Another famous Deep State coup involving the removal of a sitting President was Watergate, although it wasn’t seen as a Deep State coup to the public at the time, and because it wasn’t seen as anything more than a simple criminal act to gain an advantage, Americans of both parties were outraged

    They saw deceit and criminal acts as an affront to the American way

    Today we have a different situation. A third of the country is aware of the usurpation and outraged. A third is totally fine with any amount of corruption and criminality as long as it’s their side doing the usurping, and a third is apathetic and disinterested in any of it

    Now, take a globalist controlled corporate “media” that works solely in the interests of the Globalists and the Deep State and weaponized against the interests of America and her people, and you’ll get nothing but deception, spin and outright lies. That’s if they bring it up at all

    Next we have the Deep State handmaidens, the democrats, the RINO’s, judges, AG’s etc, who will thwart the rule of law whenever possible, lie and react in a hysterical frenzy, bleating endlessly about Trump, collusion, cover-up, Russia, racism!

    This entire hodgepodge of a clown show will probably end up where everything ends up, down the rabbit hole, never to be seen again

    Oh, there probably will be a few players taken down, sacrificial pawns put on the altar to silence the uprising, but will anything truly change?

    Will the Globalist influence/control within our government be reigned in? Will the politicians beholden to the globalist cabal face real consequences? Will the filthy corrupt cesspool known as Washington finally be forced to clean itself up?

    As much as I want all that to be so, I highly doubt it

    Keeping the MAGA agenda going requires an intelligent, informed and engaged populace. It’ll require a free and independent press, It’ll require swift and real consequences for corruption and criminality at all levels of both State and federal government

    I don’t know, maybe we can pull it off, but it’ll take a huge awakening by so many voters that right now I have no confidence in

    So we’ll see. All we can do is wait and see

    Liked by 2 people

    • WSB says:

      And then came Donald Trump. Donald, Jr. has always said that for his father, “the impossible is just the beginning.”

      So yes, alli, we’ll see… but I won’t give up now, just when we have them surrounded.

      Liked by 3 people

    • 2zymos says:

      You have already done much more than “wait and see”. Be confident that no one EVER needed a majority to vote on the difference between right and wrong before they KNEW the difference… and history shows that 20% pop, on average, is the “whole enchilada” in terms of determining the direction of the “country” or culture. SO 11% v 9% is a “majority win” in practical terms with the “other 80%” very INfrequently providing a decisive input. Even when that 80% does play a role, it tends to be a negative one in that they “refuse to help one side ” as in they “refused to help the british in AmRev I.

      I would strongly encourage a more proactive position than “wait and see” but its up to you as it always is. This is not solved at the ballot box alone — so “proactive” approach is to prepare for the part of the resolution that “does not happen by voting alone” including law fare, persuasion, and measures that improve your ability to defend yourself from tyranny if the votes get stolen or “miscounted”.

      Liked by 1 person

  12. Shop says:

    It seems that every one of the suggestions that Sundance has provided falls squarely in the lap of President Trump. The ball’s in his court to declassify as he’s the ultimate classification authority as POTUS.


    • 2zymos says:

      And as we gather info, the responsibility to act in accordance with “what we know” will be on both “the people” and “the leader”.
      Prepare. “our” part will be difficult and perilous in the near term.


  13. Beau Geste says:

    I admit I do not understand “by the book” in this context. The idiom means to closely follow the rules. But what rules make up the “book”? Who says what is “by the book”?
    Is there an actual law that says that perjury can be committed? What law? A law that says that 18 usc 1001 (lying to federal officials like the FBI) does not apply?
    Is just sort of a “get out of jail” card that prosecutors will exercise discretion and not prosecute lies made for a legitimate espionage purpose?

    Are there secret classified laws, that are enforced by the secret “Star Chamber” FISA court?
    “the book we say we are going by, is itself secret ‘sources and methods” , and you can’t look at it?

    Liked by 1 person

    • 2zymos says:

      By the book for “US” is the Constitution and “natural” or “God’s” law… yep, that “book”. This current situation is as “big as that”… no pissy reference to ‘THIS AND THAT’ statute or regulation or ops instruction will cover over the betrayal of a people and its culture — as has so CLEARLY TAKEN PLACE.
      Betrayal of a people and our culture…
      Good men, Moral men, Men of God, will righteously fight and if “not” then we will have “hellish slavery” here for 15-20 generations before we can sort it out.
      Don’t wait for Christ to come and sort it out — “no one knows the day or hour”…
      Ask Moses.
      The days where good men move have arrived.
      This is much bigger than politics, billion$ at stake, power dynamics.
      You do not “have to be a slave” first before you are legitimate/motivated to take steps to protect and procure your freedom and God-given rights to be soveriegnly active and responsible now and here.
      The 2 words of the year (2019) will be 1 “God” and 2 “Militia”. The left will never speak either.


    • Burnt Toast says:

      >>>Is there an actual law that says that perjury can be committed? What law? A law that says that 18 usc 1001 (lying to federal officials like the FBI) does not apply?

      Good question.

      FBI agent says he is ‘investigating’ his boss’s boss’s boss (or higher) who all his authority as a LEO is derived is exempt from 18 usc 1001?

      Must be a secret law out there.


  14. 2zymos says:

    All this “politics” per normal “power calculations” will eventually be bulldozed by the people [and the militia more generally]: remember the “yellow ribbons” campaign?

    When you start seeing hemp ropes and unmistakable knots hanging from lampposts and bridge overpasses remember that here at CTH you herd it in early Apr 2019.

    We get a doctorate degree in why the 2A starts thusly: A well regulated militia being NECESSARY for the security of a free state…

    No other part of our government detailed or referenced in the Constitution is “NECESSARY”…

    Plan accordingly. We enter a massive crisis phase as of 1100 eastern today when Trump said “treason” and named names.

    Liked by 1 person

  15. WSB says:

    OK…so who wants our AG to open up a new ‘secure’ hotline email account…

    Liked by 1 person

  16. Richard Whitney says:

    Someone robs a bank at gunpoint. They are later arrested. Their defense is the justification defense, that they were down on their luck and needed the money.
    Perps will always justify their crimes.
    That works as a defense? Prosecutors who have the evidence roll over when the defendant makes a justification claim of any kind?
    I don’t believe that.

    Liked by 4 people

    • Pale rider says:

      were they American or invader? Black? Trans, gay, etc. makes a difference. Was the gun borrowed or stolen from a mega supporter? Oh and don’t forget intentions and feelings. Now if they are a government official or employee pfffft give that man a beer.


  17. StanH says:

    There’s still a long way to go. I think indictments will come but it’s a heavy lift to get to conviction. Why I believe this will be different, President Donald J Trump! He will exact his pound of flesh one way or the other, of this you can be certain. He is going to beat them about the head and shoulders.

    Liked by 2 people

    • Chip Doctor says:

      All it will take is one to turn. McCabe has already said he will burn it down. Lovely Lisa seems a weak link to me. My guess is there is already a choir assembled. Lots of singin’ goin on, with more to come.

      Liked by 1 person

  18. Sammy Hains says:

    When the full facts of the conspiracy initiated by 0bama himself come to light, the media will try to downplay them, and say it doesn’t add up to much, they will dismiss it by saying that 0bama was just holding a meeting where numerous things were discussed, that the evidence was gathered by people with an agenda to destroy 0bama’s legacy, etc, etc, etc.

    So I am actually thankful for the media’s behavior over the past two years, because they have boxed themselves in.

    After two years of the media and Democrats trying to turn nothing into something, with every conversation and every handshake being presented as evidence of collusion, their excuses and dismissals of actual evidence of the 0bama regime spying and setting up Trump will not even pass the laugh test.

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  19. Susan Rice’s Justification Memo & President Obama’s Implausible Deniability

    “The President (Obama) stressed that he is NOT ASKING about, initiating or instructing anything from a law enforcement perspective …


    “The President ASKED Comey to inform him if anything changes in the next few weeks that should affect how we share classified information with the incoming team. Comey said he would.”

    So, in Barack Obama-Speak, this is what’s known as “I won’t ask, but you do tell.”

    Obama was not “asking” FBI Director James Comey about what to do “from a law enforcement perspective.” It’s not necessary, because the “investigation” is ongoing (hopefully in perpetuity) and Comey already knows what Obama expects of him.

    But, on Inauguration Day (!), outgoing President Obama was “asking” Comey to “inform him if anything changes in the next few weeks.” What the hell is THAT supposed to mean? For just how long after Obama was no longer President, and by what means, did Comey keep the former President “informed.” Was this arrangement what Comey meant by “Higher Loyalty?”

    After all, much was made of Comey’s memo-to-self, recounting a meeting at the White House with President Trump, in which the President asked for (SHOCK!) loyalty. Comey offered honesty, and the President asked for “honest loyalty.”

    On three separate occasions, Comey looked President Trump in the eye and told him he was not under investigation. At the same time, Comey was keeping Obama informed about the progress of the FBI counterintelligence investigative “cloud” Comey assured President Trump didn’t exist.

    “Every kingdom divided against itself is laid waste, and no city or house divided against itself will stand … ” Jesus Christ, responding to Pharisees who accused him of casting out demons by the power of Satan.

    “A house divided against itself, cannot stand. I believe this government cannot endure, permanently, half slave and half free. I do not expect the Union to be dissolved — I do not expect the house to fall — but I do expect it will cease to be divided. It will become all one thing or all the other.” Abraham Lincoln, Republican candidate for U.S. Senate from Illinois (1858). He lost to Democrat incumbent Stephen Douglas. Two years, he was elected President of the United States.

    One party is like “the wise man who built his house upon the rock; and the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat upon that house, but it did not fall, because it had been founded on the rock.”

    The other party is like “the foolish man who built his house upon the sand; and the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell; and great was the fall of it.”


  20. wlbeattie says:

    Is there any chance some treeper author could write a book and call it “By the Book” and explain SD’s analysis of this “Outrage Trap” – surely it would sell and it would also inform a wider community?
    Asking for a friend! 😏👍


  21. dwpender says:

    I will be most interested to learn the identities of the specific “foreign governments and officials” who had “nonpublic interactions” with the “Government of the United States” targeting first the President-elect, and then the President of the United States!

    How DARE they?

    And who were the individuals who thought they constituted the “Government of the United States”?

    How DARE they?


  22. beachbum31 says:

    obi-wan Cannoli’s speaks:


  23. We the people know says:

    On January 5 President Obama, FBI Director Jim Corney, Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates, Vice President Biden and Susan Rice walk into a bar…

    This is some kind of joke. She lists all her co-conspirators, she writes a memo to give them all a pass on all the lying they are about to do and incidentally, Obama wants it done by the book. Here’s the gigantic problem: She only wrote that memo because she knew what they were doing was wrong and that they could get caught. This memo only has value if they are caught. It’s really more like a dead-man’s switch. Isn’t this memo proof of guilt? Doesn’t the memo prove she thought that they would all need a justification for their crimes? Who needs justification if you haven’t committed a crime? It’s only needed if they can’t prove Trump was Putin’s puppet. It’s only needed if their plan falls apart.
    What I’m trying to say is, you wouldn’t conceive of writing this memo if what they were about to embark on was legitimate. You wouldn’t need it, only a guilty conscience would conceive of it.

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    • We the people know says:

      It’s like an insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before you’re 40.


    • Beau Geste says:

      agreed., nice analysis. After robbing a bank, the bankrobbers write a memo – “Our gangleader said to keep robbing the banks by the book legally”?

      John Kerry follows them into the bar. Bartender says “why the long face?”

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  24. MightyMustardSeed says:

    So appreciate the headshot diagrams. May we have one that shows the hall of shame.


    Destroying Donald Trump – What a waste of their lives.


  25. bluecat57 says:

    Did Susan do a cameo on Orange is the New Black or is she trying on a prison jumpsuit for size?


  26. L_Dave says:

    I think more needs to be made of Comeys private assurances to DJT that he, the president, wasn’t under investigation. Reliance upon that is a defense most Americans can understand. How can the president be said to obstruct a thing he was assured did not exist? Ie, an investigation of him.


    • MelH says:

      Those FOUR instances when Comey assured The President he was NOT under investigation are many places, well-documented, and took place within a couple of weeks of Comey being fired. The president’s FIRST reason for firing Comey was because Comey REFUSED to tell the public Trump was not under investigation. The second reason he fired Comey was “because of that Russia thing.” The first reason is hardly EVER mentioned by the MSM or anyone else, because the Democrats have ALWAYS believed the second reason was obstructing the Mueller Investigation, a matter for impeachment, and part of the Trump/Lester Holt interview on TV shortly after the firing.


  27. mtk says:

    On the topic of, “Beware of the Outrage Trap”

    With so many connected issues swirling around the events that necessate an outrage trap discussion.

    How is it, “Not possible to be outraged?”
    Under the banner of the outrage trap, almost anything and everything seemingly leads to falling into the trap.

    Specifically, in the hands of a pack of liars; inbred on the power rush of lying to the Country on a daily basis.

    I get the trap and the proposed eight points to counter the many pitfalls.

    As, a reminder lets remember the power of the wisdom Sundance is articulating here, “In his eight points”, by revisiting Congressman Nunes press briefer.

    The briefer where, “He disclosed that he went to a SCIF at the Whitehouse and was now speaking to the Press to relay what he had seen.”

    Of all the things he relates that day, “Many of them can now be directly associated with Sundance’s ‘Eight Points of Light’ for advoiding the trap.”

    What is striking me, “Is what Mr. Nunes reserved as his specific outrage. Lets not forget, it was not his outrage, because he never used the word ‘outrage’ that day.”

    Nor did he claim of the many things he discussed in front of the Press, “Outraged him.” What he did say was, “Enraged!”

    He did not claim it enraged him, he claimed, “It would enraged us, the citizens of this country.”

    Further, he cast that accusatory, “Not at the feet of the many things that could possibly enrage the people! He reserved that for a specific group!”

    And, IMHO… Spoke directly to that group, “The gig is up!”


  28. Pyrran says:

    All I want is equal justice under the law.
    Nothing more.
    Nothing less.
    Those who committed crimes should be charged, tried, and if found guilty, sentenced to prison.

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  29. WSB says:

    Watching Shannnon Bream’s show just now.

    She has Gowdy on, questioning him as to why the FBI? or any other Intelligence service did not warn the President that he may have spies within his campaign.

    Gowdy reports that he himself questioned a person who apparently DID go to the candidates’s office to warn him. However, a person X was in the room who this agent wanted to warn the candidate about…so he could not warn Donald Trump at that time.

    Gowdy lamented that when he asked the agent why he did not return, the agent could not give him a good answer.

    My response is this…if the intent was to warn Donald Trump against nefarious actors in his campaign, how could Donald Trump ever have been the target?

    Around 11:10 PM.

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  30. CA M says:

    A couple things to consider: Trump surrounds himself with generals. There is more to Intelligence than the C-A and FBI, there is also the NSA. They collect all data and there is a paper trail for all investigations called the Woods Procedure, as well as all their emails, phone calls, etc.
    You also have a previous admin that was hostile to the military followed by this President who is allowing the military to succeed, is cleaning up the VA, and overall supporting them. So I think there is a lot more going on behind the scenes than this little dog and pony circus, My opinion: they have everything and are allowing it to all come out slowly. Rice, Comey, Brennan, Yates, etc. they will not escape. There will be no deals. Mark my words.

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  31. PDJT will be the George Washinton of our time. If you know of Washington you will know what I mean.


  32. Perhaps someone should warn DB about the Outrage Trap set with the Justification Memo.


  33. Bulldog84 says:

    Of course I agree about going back to the origin. That doesn’t mean you allow anyone to skate who was complicit along the way.

    I’m perplexed about SD continually going back to this Rice memo. It’s value is to show Obama and the top tier participation, nothing more. Whatever else it says it self-serving and of little or no evidentiary value, because it was not even a contemporaneous recollection, having been written 15 days after the fact.

    The defense these people are going to claim is that they were duped by the false intelligence they received. Brennan has already taken that position publicly.


    • Will Hunt says:

      yes, these miscreants have played this game before but never with such high stakes as now. A “justification memo” constructed on blatantly and transparently false premise is an almost pathetic, childish sham. This cabal really should have contracted with Tony Soprano for advice on concealing crimes.


    • MelH says:

      There really is no defense to not telling the President the FBI needed to insert a spy in his campaign because of the Russia threat. Barr has already agreed that is defenseless! The Dems have had 2 years to alter and destroy documents, coagulate the defense-stories of all Black hats, and plant surprises for when the trials begin. The entertainment value, for us, MIGHT compensate for the two plus years of anguish and fury.


  34. Sir Napsalot says:

    The “I, me, my, mine” words you’ll never see/hear Obama uses –



  35. FishtheDish says:

    I would add to the SD list. And this is using Mueller prosecutor tricks against them. Identify 3-4 witnesses that will crack under harsh potential sentencing – get them to flip and spill their guts. Also, you know that there were whiste blowers – people were tipping off Nunes (and certain reporters) about where to look. See if we can’t get one of them to testify about what they know.


  36. Fools Gold says:

    Sounds like good plan forward Sundance. I especially like the mutts in a vise part. If Barr needs a good strong vise I have several in the barn to loan him along with finger nail pullers, soldering irons, and even a 60kv capacity capacitor you don’t want to touch…let’s start with Rambo peter. He makes for some very outrageous facial impressions that would be great photos.


  37. Moe Grimm says:

    Mark’s astute thinking. Again. I have to admit: I never viewed Rice’s memo in this light. “That’s why FBI Director James Comey can lie to the President and tell him he’s not the target of the ongoing Russia investigation…..”


  38. 🍺Gunny66 says:

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  39. MelH says:

    You can see here that the justification for spying is now being pushed back to 2014 (Manafort and Carter page), which would help Brennan on his claim that they had “alot” of evidence Russia would be meddling in the election.Notice it’s a CNN byline.


  40. TeaForAll says:

    BY THE BOOK This is Obama’s Insurance Policy


  41. Finbar O'Shaunnessey says:

    Justification By the Book ….. meet Fruit of the Poisonous Tree.


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