Something Different Within The Bruce Ohr Testimony…

While reading a great article by Mollie Hemmingway at The Federalist, something stands out that might lend a cautious amount of optimism toward ongoing ‘spygate’ investigative inquiries and accountability.  There are two distinct differences in the Bruce Ohr testimony as compared to all others released or revealed so far.

The known list of witnesses questioned by the joint House Judiciary and Oversight committees includes: James Comey, Andrew McCabe, James Baker, Lisa Page, Bill Priestap, Peter Strzok, and Bruce Ohr.

Until the release of the Ohr transcript all prior reports and leaks of witness testimony have been from the FBI side of ‘spygate’. Bruce Ohr is the first witness from the Main Justice (DOJ) side of the issue.

Within the released witness transcripts, lawyers from the FBI were interceding in the testimony and instructing witness not to answer questions; and/or blocking statements from the witness to the questioners.  This pattern exists in Comey, McCabe, Baker, Page, Priestap and Strzok statements.  However, there is a stark difference, a much more fulsome set of answers, obvious in the testimony from Bruce Ohr.  Example:

[…]  Rep. John Ratcliffe, R-Texas, asked specifically about what the FBI had been told before their first FISA application. He said, “So, again, so the record is clear, what the Department of Justice and the FBI was aware of prior to the first FISA application was your relationship with Christopher Steele and Glenn Simpson, your wife’s relationship with Christopher Steele and Glenn Simpson, Mr. Steele’s bias against Donald Trump, your wife’s compensation for work for Glenn Simpson and Fusion GPS, correct?”

Ohr conferred with his lawyer but said, “Right,” and went on to list the things he told the FBI, including “At some point, and I don’t remember exactly when, I don’t think it was the first conversation, I told them that Chris Steele was desperate that Donald Trump not get elected. So those are all the facts that I provided to the FBI.”  (read more)

By all appearances, the Bruce Ohr testimony was far more direct and open.  As a result the transcript provides substantially more weight to deconstruct the fraudulent narrative found amid claims and leaks from the FBI side of witnesses questioned. [See Here and See Here]

Question: Could it be that the absence of FBI lawyers, focused on FBI stakeholder interests, led to a more truthful end result from the Ohr testimony?

If so… could that not indicate a stronger likelihood the epicenter of the illicit “spygate” origination motive and intents lies factually in the FBI and not in Main Justice.

In Lisa Page’s transcript (as leaked) she outlined the conflict and schism between the FBI operation in 2016/2017 and across the street at the DOJ.

[…]  According to Page, the ongoing dispute with the DOJ ran from “February/March-ish of 2016” to June of 2016. Page also noted one other critical factor in the investigation: “the FBI cannot execute a search warrant without approval from the Justice Department.” (more)

Following this line of possibility – one could infer that Main Justice priority (Lynch and Yates) was the exoneration/protection of Hillary Clinton; however, the FBI side of the overall effort (Comey and more specifically McCabe) was prioritized around the removal of candidate Trump (via ‘spygate’ writ large).

In the aftermath of the corrupt enterprise, and as the house of tenuous cards begins to collapse, the exoneration of Clinton is the lesser risk; and the discoveries of how far out of bounds the FBI and Intelligence Community traveled becomes the bigger risk.

If Andrew McCabe (and the FBI Team) were indeed the architect and primary control official in the targeting of Donald Trump, it would stand to reason the FBI lawyers would have a different set of priorities to defend the corrupted institution.

In addition to the substance within the testimony, perhaps the absence of lawyers protecting FBI interests is why Bruce Ohr’s testimony is so damaging….

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510 Responses to Something Different Within The Bruce Ohr Testimony…

  1. corrupt after corrupting, I would love To see that these a bunch are belong To prison

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  2. Lucille says:

    To the Left, both international and domestic, it doesn’t matter what Comey, Yates, McCabe, Baker, Page, Priestap and Strzok did or didn’t do. Anything illegal or negligent was OK and all miscreants are patriots who only wanted to save the U.S. and the world from President Trump who stole the election, worked with and is beholden to Putin, is immoral and has no character, is an ignorant orange man who encourages and agrees with white supremacists in their xenophobia and racism. President Trump must be stopped by any means necessary.

    This is how the educated–by that I mean university grad and elitist-connected, NOT classically educated–view the entire FISA/C and Steele matter. Everything is justified. And those not educated will buy into anything their “betters” put out as truth. None of them have an iota of integrity or discernment. All, no matter their social or economic or educational level, are convinced they are on the side of the angels and will win in the end.

    There are those, of course, who know it’s all a sham, that they have committed grievous crimes against the nation. But do they care? Do they try to convince others that they need to stop what they’re doing and work toward a return to a nation of laws which are respected? Not one bit. To them the end always justifies the means.

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  3. @ChicagoBri says:

    This story explains the Cohen “story” from Buzzfeed. Squirrel!

    Liked by 6 people

  4. Right to reply says:

    Also explains why Comey always insisted on a public gallery!

    Hey, look at me, I have nothing to hide!

    Liked by 5 people

    • G. Alistar says:

      Yeah, Comey has been gone for two years, Mr. Wray, the optics on the FBI involvement with the spy gate scandal is terrible. Why protect dirty cops in the FBI? Why not have the FBI lawyers come clean? Why would you (Wray) not encourage “accountability” for the FBI team?

      Liked by 10 people

      • L4grasshopper says:

        Wray has then all going thru “ethics training” or something.

        Image over substance.

        As usual.

        Liked by 6 people

        • Mark L. says:

          Wray recently completed a task of visiting every Field office in the Nation. Curious as to what was accomplished by that.

          Liked by 6 people

          • Risa says:

            Frequent flier miles.

            Liked by 6 people

          • RLTW says:

            Oh not only the Field Offices. Wray is also visiting all of the FBI LEGATs in foreign countries. He is globetrotting on the FBI G5 luxury jet, wining and dining himself in 5 star hotels. Rockstars only dream of living so well.

            Wray is only in the office 3-5 days a month. Bowdich and Abbate are running the FBI. They are both disgusted. Bowdich will be retiring ASAP. Got himself a FAT retirement gig as head of security for one of the Las Vegas hotel/casino chains. Good on him.

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      • Louis Genevie says:

        Wry is a deep state snake. He has done nothing to clean out the FBI. His only role there has been to protect the agency’s image. You see, the fools think that they have an ‘image’ to protect, but the ‘clean’ image of the FBI died a long time ago if there ever really was one.

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      • Vicus says:

        Lol unfortunately for every one of you guys, Wray is doing actual work.

        Must not have been paying attention when during a Congressional hearing he let slip Comey, is, under investigation.

        And, what RICO charges do you think can occur with a complex cast of several hundred people (not 5 or six) in under two years, with a massive media propaganda, leaks, uncooperative investigative agents, and general politics?

        Does everyone actually think Trump could have strolled in and had Hillary and Soetoro arrested in two months??? 6??? 12????

        Look how many corrupt players (Congress and general government) are gone or locked down. Pay attention: swamp is being cleaned.

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    • mikeyboo says:

      “I have nothing to hide. I know nothing. I saw nothing, I remember nothing. So apparently James Comey/Colonel Klink (Hogan’s Heroes) was Director of the FBI.

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    • davidsstones says:

      Comey knows the law prevents any past, present or future Director of the FBI from answering certain questions publicly. He demanded public hearings because closed hearings meant he spilled the truth or risked committing a felony with a prison sentence of 15 yrs. Ask Manafort. Comey flagarantly used the law to protect the FBI to protect… himself, friends, Deep State and the FBI, from the consequences of telling the truth.
      to Congressional committee questions Doubling down – in case anyone missed it – recall Comey demanding a transcript of a closed hearing be made public. He knew the committee would have to not disclose bombshell answers. Comey used his public outcries demanding transparency to accomplish his goal; the opposite of transparency. At the same time signaling those protecting him, also hip deep in law breaking, that he was not going to expose them or their plan.
      he cleverly demanded he be queried in public, tweeting a near meltdown
      the night before his last subpoena when he was denied a public hearing,

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  5. Sherri Young says:

    “Page also noted one other critical factor in the investigation: “the FBI cannot execute a search warrant without approval from the Justice Department.”

    So gave the approval to seek a search warrant on Nate Cain, the whistleblower in Maryland?

    Anyone? Anyone?

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  6. Publius2016 says:

    Leverage! Get used to it, DIMMs!! theres a million ways to WIN!!!

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-01-18/trump-meets-senior-officials-about-infrastructure-plan

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  7. Ralph Drury says:

    I think this also shows why everybody else was fired and/or are under criminal investigation, while Ohr is still employed: He simply told the truth while everybody else lied or obfuscated. ( I didn’t read all 263 responses, so excuse me if someone already pointed this out.)

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    • Elle says:

      “simply told the truth” sounds so helpful and benign. I’d have used the words, “cooperated in order to avoid charges of treason”, but that’s just me.

      Liked by 4 people

  8. deguello13 says:

    “Law Enforcement Sensitive Information” about which the FBI is objecting to disclosure means dot let the public know what crimes and skullduggery our people have done. “Personally Identifiable Information” should be read to mean, “OMG, don’t name names of who committed crimes & skullduggery within our ranks!”

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  9. Jill Woodliff says:

    The currency of the deep state is unmerited favor (cover-up, blackmail, purchased influence, etc). The currency of the kingdom of heaven is mercy.
    May God have mercy on us all.

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  10. Bubby says:

    “A senior Department of Justice official says he (Bruce Ohr) repeatedly and specifically told top officials at the FBI and DOJ about dossier author Christopher Steele’s bias and his employer Fusion GPS’ conflicts of interest, information they kept hidden from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court. These conversations involved high-level officials, including some who are now senior officials in the special counsel probe.” – Mollie Hemingway January 17, 2019

    “William Barr, the once and likely future attorney general, told members of the Senate Judiciary Committee at his confirmation hearing on Tuesday that he doesn’t believe Robert Mueller “would be involved in a witch hunt” and pledged to act with independence and not fire the special counsel without due cause.” alphanews Jan 15, 2019

    If “senior officials in the special counsel probe” knew the Steele dossier was fake, paid for by Hillary and the FISA Court not told about that then the Special Counsel is on a witch hunt. How will AG nominee Barr handle this new revelation? Unless Barr believes that Mueller was kept in the dark and had no knowledge of Ohr’s warnings which I don’t believe. Is their friendship more important than the rule of law, than the Constitution, than keeping the DOJ status quo? Seems to me when Barr becomes AG he’s got to make a quick choice. In my simple mind that choice of his will tell us all whether the deep state survives or is the beginning of its unraveling. Where am I going wrong?

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    • Bubby says:

      Correction – Is their friendship and keeping the DOJ status quo more important than the rule of law, than the Constitution, than the Republic?

      Liked by 4 people

    • dallasdan says:

      I think your thought process is reasonable, and that we will soon learn by his actions, or lack thereof, whether Mr. Barr is a serious, justice-minded patriot or just the next deep state fixer with a new broom to tidy-up the DOJ and hide the dirt. IMO, he is the latter.

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      • Mark says:

        My prediction is we get a few people fired or resigned, a statement that mistakes were made and we must ensure they never happen again. I hope I’m wrong.

        Liked by 3 people

      • Alligator Gar says:

        The one questions no one seems either to want to or to be able to answer is WHY does the President keep nominating these re-tread hacks from the DS for high and mighty cabinet positions where they can keep obfuscating and damaging MAGA as well as We the People?

        This just keeps happening over and over and over again and I think we all know what is said of doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result!

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        • dallasdan says:

          I am seeing numerous comments on this forum stating that the President being held hostage, a phrase I don’t consider to be hyperbole, by the Senate, McConnell in particular, regarding who can get the votes needed for confirmation and who can not. I am presently inclined to believe this is the case.

          IMO, the deep state owns Congress, and McConnell is a principal, willing operative. I agree with SD that he is the primary impediment in the Senate to accomplishing the President’s MAGA legislative agenda. His slow-walking of the conformation of countless appointees and unwillingness to fight the Dems on immigration reform are two obvious examples of his passive-aggressive resistance.

          I think the short answer to your question is that the President is unable to nominate the people he prefers without suffering consistent defeats during the confirmation process.

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        • lydia00 says:

          He has to get an AG through a rino senate that wants to “protect the institutions”. A newbie from outside the swamp would need years to navigate the maze. That’s how they protect themselves. Trump found that out. Remember Sessions? You can’t trust anyone. Anyone. He has to assume everyone is playing theswamp game.

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      • mikeyboo says:

        I don’t envy Barr his job. Anyone tasked with acknowledging/exposing/prosecuting a close personal friend as a corrupt, treasonous criminal would be having nightmares.

        Liked by 3 people

        • dallasdan says:

          I understand your point. Mueller is the principal issue associated with Barr’s confirmation, and will be the biggest challenge for him if confirmed. If Barr is sufficiently conflicted by his deep friendship with Mueller to cause him nightmares about the potential outcome of assuring justice is served, he is the wrong man for the job. JMO

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          • Truthfilter says:

            Seems like his personal friendship w Mueller would be grounds for recusal in all things regarding the Mueller investigation. Everything is tied to -or tangled up with -Mueller, right?

            Liked by 2 people

            • dallasdan says:

              I agree the lengthy personal friendship is both concerning and problematic, but a recusal would seem to negate the potential value of Barr’s appointment.

              As others here have theorized, I agree that McConnell called this shot, telling the President Barr is the only one who could be confirmed.

              Moreover, I think SD is correct in describing Barr as a fixer who is primarily concerned with preserving the image of the DOJ versus administering justice to already outed criminals.

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      • sedge2z says:

        Do we know how many people POTUS considered before he chose Mr. Barr? Very few of us could have passed the Inquisition of Kavanaugh who drank a beer in high school.

        Treat public servants with appreciation (aka “innocent”) until proven to be
        against US citizens (aka “guilty”)

        Before our VSGDJT, I didn’t pay much attention to Politics.
        Now I am “Sundanced”: volunteering to help with Voting Districts and checking in on my own City Hall. MAGA

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    • Hutzpa says:

      I believe the key words Barr said were “to act with independence and not fire the special counsel without due cause.” Perhaps there are some things that ARE due cause. Once he’s approved those things may come to light. Lord make it so! Amen!

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    • serrafeena says:

      I think Barr wants to start his tenure projecting that he is operating in good faith and assuming the best. I don’t see how it helps him to project to his future organization that he personally thinks Meuller (investigation) may be corrupt. Yes it still worries me that he is “friends” with Meuller. But that concern if offset by the prior letter he wrote to Trump’s counsel arguing that the whole obstruction investigation was illegitimate. AND by the positive comments about him from diGenova and Toensing. So I’m crossing my fingers.

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    • “specifically told top officials ”

      There is no way to verify that statement. If he has no emails, no texts or no memos, that statement will be Ohr’s word against several FBI officials/agents word.

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      • Bubby says:

        Bryan I agree no doubt that would be very troubling if he can’t support any of it. Hopefully there is some formal record of his briefings that haven’t been destroyed already. Dark days ahead I’m afraid.

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      • Bubby says:

        Bryan hope this is sufficient but who knows without seeing the actual evidence? “It turns out that Ohr kept top officials at both the FBI and Department of Justice apprised of his conversations with Steele, passed along electronic and written materials from multiple Fusion GPS employees, and shared key information that was excluded from the FISA application to the courts.” – Mollie Hemingway January 17, 2019

        Like

    • tucker7518 says:

      Barr acts like he is “By the Book”. The deep state might be in for a big surprise.

      Liked by 1 person

    • OldParatrooper says:

      Trump needs to declassify all the relevant documents and post them to the White House website.
      There is no intelligence source or method that is so important that it needs to be hidden at the cost of having a President who is a Russian Spy.

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    • Vicus says:

      Going wrong here: Not realizing Mueller was picked by Trump for SC. He had a secret meeting with him, long before the SC was setup.

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  11. G. Combs says:

    Yes, and where is Sylvia’s Shovel and a whole lot of others.

    A few weeks backs some Treepers said that WordUnimpressed was tossing their comments or something of that nature and they had not been able to comment for weeks.

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  12. Justin Green says:

    Nixon was impeached for far less than Obama did.

    You should read Nixon’s Articles of Impeachment if you haven’t before to see all of the accusations against him. I think Obama must have used these as a checklist for things to accomplish while in office. In particular:

    Article 2
    2. He misused the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the Secret Service, and other executive personnel, in violation or disregard of the constitutional rights of citizens, by directing or authorizing such agencies or personnel to conduct or continue electronic surveillance or other investigations for purposes unrelated to national security, the enforcement of laws, or any other lawful function of his office; he did direct, authorize, or permit the use of information obtained thereby for purposes unrelated to national security, the enforcement of laws, or any other lawful function of his office; and he did direct the concealment of certain records made by the Federal Bureau of Investigation of electronic surveillance.

    Of course, Nixon was subsequently pardoned by Ford. I doubt Trump would pardon Obama.

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    • lotbusyexec says:

      As he SHOULD –NOT!!!!!!!!!!

      Liked by 2 people

    • namberak says:

      I’ve slept a few thousand times since then but the way I remember it, there was a lot of yapping about Nixon using the IRS against his ‘enemies list’ but when it all shook out, it was cocktail hour chatter and nothing had ever actually happened along those lines.

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      • Justin Green says:

        I was an infant when Nixon was impeached. But, from my reading of it, when the Articles of Impeachment were drafted against him, it was everyone’s chance to add to the list, whether there were facts to support the allegations or not.

        In Obama’s case, there is support for all of the allegations. The SEC was weaponized to extort hefty fines from Exxon for something one of its scientists did in the 70’s, lol. We all know about the IRS weaponization against Tea Party groups. Even the Department of Education was weaponized against private student loan lenders before he eliminated them from the Title IV program altogether.

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    • Trump's Hammer says:

      Nixon wasn’t impeached. You keep repeating this trope.

      But Obama did 10x worse than Nixon ever hoped to do, and yet there are crickets from the media.

      Liked by 4 people

  13. Tina says:

    I hope I’m not too off topic here , but did anybody notice the timing of the latest “ buzzfeed” article about PT directing Cohen to lie to congress ? A specific question was asked of Barr about a President directing someone to lie to congress . And sure enough buzzfeed writes a bogus claim about this very subject . This is so ridiculous.

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    • mikeyboo says:

      Ridiculoous AND par for the course.

      Liked by 3 people

    • dallasdan says:

      The effort to remove the President is broad, deep, well-rooted, and fully coordinated. No amounts of dishonesty and conspiracy should surprise us.

      Liked by 3 people

    • Vicus says:

      Yup. Suborning a witness.

      Don’t worry.

      This is the plan.

      House Dems are in a trap they didn’t know they fell into. The House needed to be lost in the midterms.

      Once in power, House Dems have gone absolutely nuts with ludicrous bills. The shutdown falls on them. The Pelosi trip to meet E.U. officials fell flat and made Dems look even worse.

      Trump threatening to declassify was saying, “please, impeach, I’ll tear the whole place down”.

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  14. RJones says:

    With respect to SD’s theory that the locus of treasonous activity was within the FBI and not DOJ, this seems correct. The DOJ lawyers were far enough removed from the scene that they likely thought they could escape consequences and just passively watch the action. However, we all watched the thing play out, with all the breathless fake reporting. And, yet, nobody at DOJ, in the context of a presidential election and it’s aftermath, had the patriotism, the fortitude, the simple common sense to go “look into the matter.” Failure to act is an act. In this case, such failure to act amounts to involvement and is deserving of punishment under the law almost as severe as that of the main actors.

    We’re the greatest nation earth, Mr Barr? Prove it. Prove this nation can undertake the necessary cleansing and that 2nd rate functionaries will not be permitted to spy of political opponents, attempt entrapment of opposition campaign personnel, or stage presidential coups for Christ’s sake. Or, alternately, prove you are just a rank fraud. There’s no gray area here. Do you have the courage and the ability, or do you not? America is watching and history will surely judge you.

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  15. Bull Durham says:

    Duh!

    FBI worse than DOJ.

    Police powers, fascistic history, years of weak oversight, politicization of leadership . . .

    Careers that last for decades covered by the veneer of professionalism.

    The FBI is evil. Period.

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    • Lefty says:

      The investigators report to the prosecutors. The FIB is under the oversight of the DOJ.
      I do not believe this recent claim by the DOJ that it was all the FIB’s doing. At the very least, the leadership of the DOJ still needs to go for allowing the FIB to run amok like this.

      Many levels of leadership within the DOJ and FIB need to go. Both the leadership and their underlings that followed the dirty orders or stayed silent.

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    • WSB says:

      A capo, really.

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  16. Justin Green says:

    Yes, but it wasn’t just limited to the FBI… Susan Rice unmasked folks, the White House knew about much or all of this, and the DOJ was certainly involved. Less DOJ people stayed after Trump was inaugurated, at least at the higher levels it seems?

    The CIA, NSA, FBI and DOJ are all suspect and all knee-deep in this mess.

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  17. franuche says:

    “Bruce Ohr’s testimony is so damaging….”

    Damaging, of course, in the minds of patriots only. There will likely be no actual damage to the deep state.

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  18. InAz says:

    A question I keep asking…..

    We keep reading that Christopher Steele did not want Donald Trump elected…Steele was desperate that Donald Trump not take office.

    Steele is getting blamed as if Steele is the mastermind of the coup and orchestrated it all.

    So was Steele paid off to take the entire blame? Or is Steele being thrown under the bus?

    (We all know who and why the coup against Donald Trump was planned and carried out.)

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    • treeobserver says:

      Steele was working for Oleg Deripraska. Oleg wanted sanctions against him dropped so that he can access his US money. Deripraska knew he could count on Clinton either due to her Uranium 1 deal and/or had some Russia dirt on her for leverage. Trump was an unknown. DOJ had been trying to flip Oleg. Oleg and DOJ/FBI agree on Trump dirt for US visas, etc, etc. and the rest is history

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  19. lorendean01 says:

    strozk = cia/fbi
    follow london – paige

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  20. lorendean01 says:

    strozk = cia/fbi
    follow london – paige

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  21. Co says:

    The ring taping of the Skulls & Bones society IMO

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  22. Marygrace Powers says:

    “…however, the FBI side of the overall effort (Comey and more specifically McCabe) was prioritized around the removal of candidate Trump (via ‘spygate’ writ large)”

    “…and the discoveries of how far out of bounds the FBI and Intelligence Community traveled becomes the bigger risk”

    Thomas Wilmot says:
    January 16, 2019 at 8:52 pm
    I think McCabe and Comey were the driving force in charge of it all. Rosenstein, for all the frustration he has caused was not involved in the Dossier/FISA. I also think something big is happening here. The Epoch times leaks, the NY Times article Friday night & over the weekend. It seems like a hammer or two may be about to fall but who know where?

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    Marygrace Powers says:
    January 16, 2019 at 9:52 pm
    …agree, and between the two,
    Andrew “F Flynn F Trump” McCabe
    is the real manipulator/controller
    behind it ALL – Hillary’s hitman.

    So McCabe investigating Hillary server located in HIS house.

    McCabe was investigating Hillary’s private server that he set up with the Awans?

    NNSA = beginning of nuclear rat lines.

    Bottom line is McCabe controls ALL THE RATLINES
    FOR HILLARY. Hillary OWNS THE FBI.

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    • Marygrace Powers says:

      FBI, first and foremost, needs to be SHUT DOWN.

      “FBI corruption is WORSE than anyone can imagine.” PDJT days ago

      “This has been the ‘kick-the-can‘ strategy to
      PROTECT THE INSTITUTIONS (FBI) all along….” sundance days ago

      Chris Farrell
      Director of Judicial Watch:

      “Frankly, I would go back 200 years to the U.S. Marshals Service,” said Farrell, a former Military Intelligence officer and counterintelligence expert. “I would create a new division for investigations, and in about six to eight months I would shut the FBI down. Agents would be allowed to apply for, or laterally transfer to a new investigative arm of the U.S. Marshals Service and the FBI would cease to exist. That’s my idea.”

      “Here’s the problem: If nothing changes, nothing changes. There has to be a radical, penetrating, severe examination. You have to turn over the furniture here.”

      “We have to reset the thinking,” said Farrell. “It’s an institutional, cultural question. The entity itself has become poisoned. Systemic corruption.”

      https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/michael-w-chapman/judicial-watch-fbi-needs-be-shut-down-transferred-us-marshals-service

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  23. Piggy says:

    Makes me think Ohr is trying to separate himself from “intent”. Having “intent” means part of a conspiracy which is criminal. Could be jail time.

    When asses might be on the line people will look out for themselves.

    The Ohr’s are part of this conspiracy. Nellie is more then likely a spook and who knows who she works for. No one is innocent in this.

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  24. stringplayer55 says:

    I was truly surprised that Ohr was as open, as fulsome, as he was as indicated from the transcripts of his testimony. But something else that caught my eye in Molly Hemingway’s reporting was that Ohr stated that he sent handwritten notes to those who were part of the cabal. Of course, handwritten notes cannot be tracked electronically. It appears that Ohr was trying to defeat downstream discovery of the work of the cabal and his part in that effort.

    Those doing the snooping now would be OK with the content of the communications (obviously). But what about when the executive branch flipped and Justice and the FBI couldn’t be guaranteed liberal political actors at the top of those institutions. Electronic communications could be exposed and the entire narrative come back to bite the entire Dem apparatus. Heck, even if Dems kept the executive branch, military intelligence would almost certainly intercept electronic communications. And that, itself, could be a problem for the cabal.

    I’m surprised that no one (i.e., Molly or Sundance or the congressmen collecting Ohr’s testimony) has focused in on this aspect of Ohr’s testimony. To me, it demands further scrutiny.

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  25. Justin Green says:

    Between this site and Dan Bongino’s show and Solomon’s articles and others here and there, this is all coming together pretty nicely.

    A TIMELINE (comprehensive) would help. I know it would be a PITA to put together now, but would greatly help me at least organize the tales. If I had the time, I’d put one together from all of the articles, including the NYT and other articles where information was leaked, etc.

    This could be an Oliver Stone movie, except Hillary hasn’t had anyone offed yet. Other than a botched robbery here or there.

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  26. Johnny Dollar says:

    My take on Bruce Ohr

    In his testimony to Congress, Bruce Ohr is attempting to portray himself as an innocent, cooperative, bit player in this drama. The, proverbial, low man on the totem pole and a good guy.

    I suspect, the testimony (read alibi) he gave to Congress is the same alibi he crafted years before when he provided his “briefing” to the heavy hitters (Comey, McCabe, Struck, etc., etc.,) on the Dossier. At that time, having chased criminals all his DOJ life, he knew the criminal implications of their attempt to get at Trump. And he knew he was being drawn into that enterprise.
    His dilemma: how to protect himself in the event she won or lost?

    Answer: water down the briefings. Give the heavy hitters just enough verbiage to disclose an ambivalent anxiety over the Dossier.

    But, don’t be forceful about it. Don’t put anything in writing and give it to them because that would alert the heavy hitters that, maybe, you’re not trustworthy. And whatever you do, don’t resign in protest of what you know is their criminal activity.

    In short, design your briefings for the heavy hitters so if the worst case happens, there is no paper trail leading anywhere. And it all ends up being the “he said, she said” thingy. The dead end.

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    • jbowen82 says:

      I think all of them really believed that PDT was a Russian stooge and that once they investigated, they would be able to prove it. If they had to cut a few corners, use some unverified evidence, lie to the FISA court, no big deal – the stakes were high, and better to seek forgiveness than permission. It also must have occurred to them that the Clintons are famous for taking care of their friends, so no harm in being a little sloppy and letting it be known who was behind discovering the Russian connection, because everyone knew Hillary was going to win.

      But Hillary didn’t win, and there was no Russian connection to discover. At some point, the cabal turned to self-preservation as its top priority. The first form of self-preservation they turned to was the Resistance. People forget that there was serious talk about turning the Electoral College with evidence of treason, so that it would throw the election to the House, which would elect Hillary (or someone like Romney or McCain). The cabal stepped up the spying during the transition. (“First we f*** Flynn, then we f*** Trump.”) They failed to prevent the inauguration, then they doubled down on impeachment. That led to Comey’s leaking and firing and the attempt to claim obstruction as znother ground for impeachment.

      I think there were people on the outside of the cabal who knew about it at the time because of the sloppiness: Rosenstein, Boente, Yates, maybe Lynch. I’m not sure whether the Mueller appointment was a way to cut McCabe off at the knees or not; it certainly had that effect, but that may have been collateral damage. But these people (Rosenstein, Boente, Wray, etc.) are interested primarily in protecting the institution – they would rather keep the goings-on of the cabal under wraps and deal with it internally. As they see it, everyone’s been fired, so they’ve dealt with it.

      Which brings us to Bruce Ohr. Clearly, his wife was a key resource for the cabal. Was he an insider or was he a wannabe? Looking at his testimony, I think he wanted to bask in the glory when the cabal found the Russian connection, so he helped out where they let him, but he was never really part of the team. If it weren’t for his wife, he would have been Rosenstein or Boente – an outsider who sort of knew what McCabe and company were up to, but kept isolated from the operation. That’s why he’s still around, and in the institutionalists’ minds, by demoting him, they’ve dealt with it.

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      • mikeyboo says:

        Personally, I don’t think a single one of the futher muckers really believed Donald Trump was a Russian stooge

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        • jbowen82 says:

          We can disagree on that because no one really knows the truth, but there’s no doubt that millions of people do believe it. I think the Kool-aid is even stronger inside the Beltway than it is outside, and these people are so surrounded with people who think like they do that they are just clueless. I think they deluded themselves into not only believing that it was true, but that they were going to be heroes because they found the proof. But who knows.

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        • Invisigoth says:

          I agree with you and further believe Nellie’s job was to manufacture Russian “chatter” about Trump that Fusion GPS could then pick up and put in the dossier. Then they would find compromised Russians and offer them deals to corroborate their claims.

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      • Truthfilter says:

        They used Russia as an excuse to open multi-faceted counter intel op. Crossfire Hurricane. The deep state wanted to know who leaked or hacked HRC’s emails and more importantly, what else did they (Wikileaks) have? The counter intel investigation into Russia’s possible hacking allowed them to manufacture reasons to spy on DJT using the two hop method while trying to get ahead of anything else that might be leaked to the public. They didn’t believe DJT was involved with Russia. They were hoping to find something on DJT to help HRC win by leaking their findings to the press. They made up the Russia thing after the fact—it became their insurance policy.

        Crossfire Hurricane refers to Keith Richard’s birth occurring in the middle of the German bombings. The Deep State (and HRC) was being attacked from all directions in the summer of 2016. They had to get ahead of it and spin the storm in the opposite direction.

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      • Johnny Dollar says:

        “I think all of them really believed that PDT was a Russian stooge……”

        No they didn’t. At least, not in my opinion.

        Their hatred for Trump is rooted in his status as someone completely separate from the beltway culture and a guy who insulted the entirety of that culture. You and I do not understand the depth of allegiance, regardless of party, that exists between the beltway dwellers. Keep that in mind, and remember during the campaign, Trump made it plain to his followers and the country, that he believed politicians, all politicians, in the beltway ( he called it Washington) were stupid. And by extension, anyone associated with them was also stupid. That’s a lot of peoples toes he verbally stomped on. People inside the beltway who had always thought of themselves as special, even elite, were publicly humiliated by his campaign comments about them. And publicly humiliated even more, infuriated is better, when he won.
        Result – there is little, if any, sympathy for him inside the beltway culture. And they are all hell bent on running him out of the beltway.

        The Russia thing? Simply a means, a fabrication which they are good at, to achieve that end.

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  27. todayistheday99 says:

    How many times does Buzzfeed have to be discredited before the YSM urnalists stops pulling the same old crap.

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  28. truthbomb says:

    Ohr’s testimony, if the leaks are factual, looks like Ohr and DOJ by proxy trying to pin the blame on the FBI. Maybe if this succeeds it cuts off the connection to Obama. However, Ohr’s claim he was only an information conduit is patent BS for so many reasons.

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  29. Latina says:

    I need to see arrestsssss many arrests. Until then, we are still a police state with no hope for the average person.

    I want to see plea deals for some so they can talk and lead us to Obama and Hillary. Jail Jail Jail

    Page, Strozk, Baker, Comey Brennan and others need to go to jail, serve serious time for attempting a coup against POTUS.

    SERIOUS CRIME! 1000 watergates + Coup attempt.

    Jail!

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  30. HickTick says:

    I keep reading from the experts that We cant have any military tribunals , or trials like the Nazis .
    All of these FBI/CIA , and DOJ employees are sworn in just like a soldier , am I right , Over at the FBI they don’t just say , You start Monday here is your gun .

    So if you cant Try them all at once then why do we bother to have them swear to an Oath ???
    They all broke their oath by conspiring the Coup , and not a ONE came forward to say , not me .
    Now you have Ohr now saying he warned about Steele , well guess what , You knew they were getting Spy warrants and If You are being truthful , It was your Sworn duty to stop them .

    I consider all the work against our President to remove him as Treason . Employees on our
    payroll don’t get to choose our Presidents . We Paid them while they attacked with all they had .

    It can NEVER happen again . Something must be done . I hope once Barr is confirmed he appoints Whitaker and turns him loose ,

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    • JohnCarlson says:

      The American civilians at the DOJ, FBI and CIA didn’t swear an oath to the Pentagon. A lot of the Generals at the Pentagon would probably like to try President Trump for pulling out of Syria and then Afghanistan. I wouldn’t trust these Generals as far as I could throw them. Their record is abysmal.

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  31. fanbeav says:

    You want democrats to take over?

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  32. Bogeyfree says:

    My thoughts on simple questions Barr should ask Mueller immediately after he is confirmed……..

    Barr…. Why as the SC have you not questioned anyone from the other side regarding Russian Collusion especially with all the mounting evidence?

    Mueller……Because my direction was to investigate PT and his team for Russian Collusion.

    Barr…. OK but as a SC and an ex FBI Director who should always abide by the rule of law, did you forward any people or information from the Democrat side to the DOJ as you learned of their possible Russian Collusion during the investigation?

    Mueller….. NO

    Barr…..This is all I need to know. You should finish your report within the next 2 weeks.

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    • YL Calif says:

      Barr worked with CIA. A deep-stater “FIXER”. Look up Barr and his code name “Robert Johnson” in the Iran-Contra scandal. Whistleblower, Terry Reed. Then look up William P. Barr on Wiki . . . as Atty Gen under Bush, he was instrumental in pardoning the crooks. That should get you going.

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  33. armie says:

    Not sure whether Sun’s usage of the word “fulsome” was erroneous or literal. Seems either would apply.

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    • Skippy says:

      armie, I am perplexed why Sen Whitehouse (RI) kept using the word “fulsome” in his questions to AG Nominee Burr. I wondered if it was a code word to the past testimony in some subliminal way.

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      • Carrie says:

        Didn’t Gowdy use that word too?

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        • armie says:

          It’s sort of like the misuse of the phrase “begs the question”, which frequently gets quoted by elected officials who are trying to give the impression they’re conversant with the law, and instead disclose just the opposite. Sounds impressive, doesn’t actually mean what they think it means.

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  34. Skippy says:

    Today I called Speaker Pelosi, Senator Feinstein, Senator Graham. I called Senator Schumer yesterday (what an ordeal to leave a simple message-the worse of the group). I asked them all to end this charade by meeting w President Trump and coming up with a border wall payment plan. I reminded them Chuck Schumer in 2013 voted for 350 miles of southern border wall.

    Hypocrisy abounds in the USA. These are well payed people and are obligated to work for our safety!

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    • Bogeyfree says:

      You are forgetting something……

      They don’t care. It is about power, control and money.

      Case in point, have you seen any of these folks call an Angel Mom with their condolences after their family member was killed by an illegal?

      IMO they just don’t care.

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  35. Conversefive says:

    If Ohr’s tedtimony is correct, then didn’t Lisa page have to have lied in her testimony when she said she had never heard of Christopher Steele until mid September? I suppose Ohr could have relayed the info without stating Steele’s name but that doesn’t seem very likely.

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  36. YL Calif says:

    Obama/Brennan/Clapper were spying on everyone for years via THE HAMMER. Which proves that the FISA warrants were window dressing-optics. Remember that Carter Page (so-called “target” in the FISA warrants) was part of the FBI (undercover asset) team. Carter had just finished working with FBI to convict a Russian Spy March 2016 before he was assigned to the Trump Team. How was he placed on the Trump Team? Via RNC/NY Cox (Never-Trumper). After getting on the Trump team, his assignment was to look suspicious.

    Shortly after he returned from giving a speech in Moscow in July 2016 (an event where Hillary Clinton pal Madeleine Albright also was a speaker), Page got a call from Wall Street Journal (Simpson’s old employer). Too cute.

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  37. Bogeyfree says:

    Second thing Barr should do once confirmed is sit INDIVIDUALLY under oath with the following people and ask these simple questions, now that Bruce Ohr is on record in documented testimony that he briefed in person, key leadership in the FBI and DOJ of concerns about the legitimacy and who sponsored the dossier.

    Andrew McCabe, Lisa Page, James Baker, Peter Strzok, Joe Pientka, Andrew Weissmann, Bruce Swartz, Zainab Ahmad

    1) Did Bruce Ohr tell you that the Dossier was bogus and paid for by the Clinton campaign?

    2) If so who else was present in that meeting?

    Barr should also remind them of the penalty for lying and they he has all their texts and emails.

    Reminder… this meeting took place long before the FBI used the dossier and submitted it as truthful evidence to the FISA court.

    Reminder #2… Weissmann was then brought over from the DOJ to the Mueller team acting as Mueller’s number two in command after this meeting.

    If this is true as others have reported, how in the hell does a SC who happens to be an ex FBI DIRECTOR, who should put the law above all actions, not know that the Dossier was bogus when his number 2 clearly knew and he does nothing about it?

    This IMO immediately should discredit the SC, his team and poison/cancel his entire investigation as it is clear they knew the Dossier was bogus, thus Mueller as an extension of the FBI, knew the FBI submitted a bogus FISA request upon the FISA court and did nothing about this known fraud.

    IMO if Barr as the top attorney in this country once confirmed, is honorable and takes his sworn oath seriously he MUST act on this ASAP as it is the linchpin IMO that blows up Mueller and the SC.

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  38. Blaze says:

    I’ll give Barr 30 days after confirmation to name a special prosecutor to look into FisaGate, ObamaGate, SpyGate or whatever. If he doesn’t then we have Sessions 2.0

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  39. GSparrow says:

    Mollie Hemingway certainly does write excellent and well researched columns.
    I was wondering if any of the FISA Court Judges that rubber stamped the unsubstantiated FISA warrants have been questioned or investigated.

    It seems to be the generally accepted opinion that the FISA Court was always tricked or lied to in order for them to improperly approve several warrants. Given the politicization of the 9th Circuit and other judges scattered throughout the nation, they should at least be fully interviewed and investigated if serious efforts to uncover the truth are actually vigorously active rather than just reported for show. Or are they also high above the law like those that peddled the Dossier to them.

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    • concerned3 says:

      I think we must face the possibility that the FISA court was compromised. If Obama, authorized an emergency FISA court warrant application through then setting AG Lynch. The courts must have been aware, of the short comings, of this application, but accepted it anyway.

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  40. WSB says:

    “Ohr worked for a law firm in San Francisco before becoming a career civil servant at the U.S. Department of Justice,[4] ultimately rising to the rank of Associate Deputy Attorney General.

    He was an assistant U.S. Attorney in the Southern District of New York from 1991 to 1999,[3] and was head of the office’s Violent Gangs Unit before joining the Justice Department’s Washington headquarters as the head of the Organized Crime and Racketeering Section of the Criminal Division, where Ohr managed teams investigating and prosecuting crime syndicates in Russia and eastern Europe.[4]

    In 2006, Ohr was one of a number of U.S. government officials who made the decision to revoke the visa of Oleg Deripaska, a Russian oligarch and Vladimir Putin ally.[4] ”

    The Wikipoo page could have been written by Hillary. It describes the rightwing conspiracy theory that Bruce Ohr was deeply involved in the Steele dossier.

    Ha!

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Ohr

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  41. concerned3 says:

    I think we are losing our focus on the the involvement of 5Eyes. They are front and center, when comes to spying on the Trump campaign. I would like to see Sundance turn his critical investigative skills to this question for just one article.

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  42. Folks, What you are witnessing with these revelations is the DIRTY Robert Swan Mueller III……ANAL-PROBE-TEAM….[PANICKING] that there’s (PROOF-POSITIVE-EVIDENCE) that they KNEW all along of the ‘Crossfire-Hurricane’ Counterintelligence SCHEME….of which ‘Bobby 3 Sticks’….was a Co-Architect with the IC, John Brennan, James Clapper, James Comey, Loretta Lynch, Valerie Jarrett & B. Obama.
    ~DIRTY Mueller is trying desperately to create a SMOKE-SCREEN by PITTING the DOJ against the FBI to protect Himself, the Team & in particular ANDREW WEISSMAN being a Conduit between the CORRUPT FBI, CORRUPT DOJ & Himself.~

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  43. Gary Hill says:

    Anyone can make an ethics complaint against a DOJ Attoreny.

    Director and Chief Counsel
    Office of Professional Responsibility
    U.S. Department of Justice
    950 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W., Suite 3266 Washington, DC 20530-0001

    Or e-mail: opr.complaints@usdoj.gov

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  44. Francisco Machado says:

    The Leftists, the Socialists, the Progressives are all religious fanatics. They do not give up, they cannot be discouraged neither can they be enlightened that their programs destroy nations. Their ethics are situational. Winning is the only goal – at any cost. Martyrdom, self destruction for the cause is glorified. Get yourself arrested… “To tell the truth is a petty bourgeois habit, whereas for us to lie is justified by our objectives.” – Vladimir Lenin. A very educational commentary on Ideological Subversion by Yuri Bezmenov (KGB) is on youtube SV72VNnV0 – It’s worth looking for it.

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