The DOJ and FBI appear to be maintaining an aggressive posture against their political opposition on behalf of the ongoing ‘domestic extremist’ narrative. In a remarkable statement prosecutor Michael Sherwin claims that charges of sedition are possible for those who attended the January 6th protest in DC against the outcome of the 2020 election.
Conducting political surveillance, abusing the NSA database by extracting personal information in violation of the fourth amendment, lying to a FISA court to get a title-1 surveillance warrant against Donald Trump’s campaign, fabricating a false Trump-Russia conspiracy theory, pushing knowingly false information to the media to support a fraudulent investigation, initiating a special counsel to hide the trail of wrongdoing; and the FBI conducting political operations against the Trump administration, was apparently no big deal. However, attend a protest against the corrupt interests of the deep state in DC and you are guilty of “sedition.”
The weaponized institutions of government are openly displaying their intent now.
WASHINGTON DC – Michael Sherwin, the federal prosecutor tasked with investigating the Jan. 6 riot at the Capitol, told “60 Minutes” in an interview that aired Sunday night evidence collected thus far likely meets the threshold to charge some suspects with sedition.
Any person charged with sedition is effectively accused of attempting to overthrow the U.S. government and faces up to 20 years in prison if convicted.
Scott Pelley, the correspondent, pointed out that the U.S. government has not charged anyone tied to the riot with sedition, but he quoted the statute and said that it seems like a “very low bar” to bring the charge.
Sherwin disagreed. “But I will tell you this,” he said. “I personally believe the evidence is trending towards that, and probably meets those elements.” (read more)
WATCH THE SEGMENT:
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Consider…. During the time-frame of December 2015 through April 2016 the NSA database was being exploited by contractors within the intelligence community doing unauthorized searches.
On March 9, 2016, oversight personnel doing a review of FBI system access were alerted to thousands of unauthorized search queries of specific U.S. persons within the NSA database.
NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers was made aware.
Subsequently NSA Director Rogers initiated a full compliance review of the system to identify who was doing the searches; & what searches were being conducted.
On April 18, 2016, following the preliminary audit results, Director Rogers shut down all FBI contractor access (Crowstrike) to the database after he learned FISA-702 “about”(17) and “to/from”(16) search queries were being done without authorization. Thus begins the first discovery of a much bigger background story.
When you compile the timeline with the people involved; and the specific wording of the resulting review, which was then delivered to the FISA court; and overlay the activity that was taking place in the GOP primary; what we discover is a process where the metadata collected by the NSA was being searched for political opposition research and surveillance.
Additionally, tens-of-thousands of searches were identified by the FISA court as likely extending much further than the compliance review period: “while the government reports it is unable to provide a reliable estimate of the non compliant queries since 2012, there is no apparent reason to believe the November 2015 [to] April 2016 period coincided with an unusually high error rate”.
In short, during the Obama administration the NSA database was continually used to conduct surveillance. This is the critical point that leads to understanding the origin of “Spygate”, as it unfolded in the Spring and Summer of 2016.
It was the discovery of the database exploitation and the removal of access as a surveillance tool that created their initial problem. Here’s how we can tell.
Initially in December 2015 there were 17 GOP candidates and all needed to be researched.
However, when Donald Trump won New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina the field was significantly whittled. Trump, Cruz, Rubio, Kasich and Carson remained.
On Super Tuesday, March 2, 2016, Donald Trump won seven states (VT, AR, VA, GA, AL, TN, MA) it was then clear that Trump was the GOP frontrunner with momentum to become the presumptive nominee. On March 5th, Trump won Kentucky and Louisiana; and on March 8th Trump won Michigan, Mississippi and Hawaii.
The next day, March 9th, NSA security alerts warned internal oversight personnel that something sketchy was going on.
This timing is not coincidental. As FISA Judge Rosemary Collyer later wrote in her report, “many of these non-compliant queries involved the use of the same identifiers over different date ranges.” Put another way: attributes belonging to a specific individual(s) were being targeted and queried, unlawfully. Given what was later discovered, it seems obvious the primary search target, over multiple date ranges, was Donald Trump.
There were tens-of-thousands of unauthorized search queries; and as Judge Collyer stated in her report, there is no reason to believe the 85% non compliant rate was any different from the abuse of the NSA database going back to 2012.
As you will see below the NSA database was how political surveillance was being conducted during Obama’s second term in office. However, when the system was flagged, and when NSA Director Mike Rogers shut down “contractor” access to the system, the system users needed to develop another way to get access.
Mike Rogers shuts down access on April 18, 2016. On April 19, 2016, Fusion-GPS founder Glenn Simpson’s wife, Mary Jacoby visits the White House. Immediately thereafter, the DNC and Clinton campaign contract Fusion GPS… who then hire Christopher Steele.
Knowing it was federal “contractors”, outside government with access to the system, doing the unauthorized searches, the question becomes: who were the contractors?
The possibilities are quite vast. Essentially anyone the FBI or intelligence apparatus was using could have participated. Crowdstrike was a known FBI contractor; they were also contracted by the DNC. Shawn Henry was the former head of the FBI office in DC and was the President of Crowdstrike Services; a rather dubious contractor for the government and a politically connected data security and forensic company. James Comey’s special friend Daniel Richman was an unpaid FBI “special employee” with security access to the database. Nellie Ohr began working for Fusion-GPS on the Trump project in November 2015 and she was a CIA contractor; and it’s entirely likely Glenn Simpson or people within his Fusion-GPS network were also contractors for the intelligence community.
Remember the Sharyl Attkisson computer intrusions? It’s all part of this same network; Attkisson even names Shawn Henry as a defendant in her ongoing lawsuit.
All of the aforementioned names, and so many more, held a political agenda in 2016.
It seems likely if the NSA flags were never triggered then the contracted system users would have continued exploiting the NSA database for political opposition research; which would then be funneled to the Clinton team. However, once the unauthorized flags were triggered, the system users (including those inside the official intelligence apparatus) needed to find another back-door to continue… Again, the timing becomes transparent.
Immediately after NSA flags were raised March 9th; the same intelligence agencies began using confidential human sources (CHS’s) to run into the Trump campaign. By activating intelligence assets like Joseph Mifsud and Stefan Halper the IC (CIA, FBI) and system users had now created an authorized way to continue the same political surveillance operations.
When Donald Trump hired Paul Manafort on March 28, 2016, it was a perfect scenario for those doing the surveillance. Manafort was a known entity to the FBI and was previously under investigation. Paul Manafort’s entry into the Trump orbit was perfect for Glenn Simpson to sell his prior research on Manafort as a Trump-Russia collusion script two weeks later.
The shift from “unauthorized exploitation of the NSA database” to legally authorized exploitation of the NSA database was now in place. This was how they continued the political surveillance. This is the confluence of events that originated “spygate”, or what officially blossomed into the FBI investigation known as “Crossfire Hurricane” on July 31.
If the NSA flags were never raised; and if Director Rogers had never initiated the compliance audit; and if the political contractors were never blocked from access to the database; they would never have needed to create a legal back-door, a justification to retain the surveillance. The political operatives/contractors would have just continued the targeted metadata exploitation.
Once they created the surveillance door, Fusion-GPS was then needed to get the FBI known commodity of Chris Steele activated as a pipeline. Into that pipeline all system users pushed opposition research. However, one mistake from the NSA database extraction during an “about” query shows up as a New Yorker named Michael Cohen in Prague.
That misinterpreted data from a FISA-702 “about query” is then piped to Steele and turns up inside the dossier; it was the wrong Michael Cohen. It wasn’t Trump’s lawyer, it was an art dealer from New York City with the same name; the same “identifier”.
A DEEP DIVE – How Did It Work?
Start by reviewing the established record from the 99-page FISC opinion rendered by Presiding Judge Rosemary Collyer on April 26, 2017. Review the details within the FISC opinion.
I would strongly urge everyone to read the FISC report (full pdf below) because Judge Collyer outlines how the DOJ, which includes the FBI, had an “institutional lack of candor” in responses to the FISA court. In essence, the Obama administration was continually lying to the FISA court about their activity, and the rate of fourth amendment violations for illegal searches and seizures of U.S. persons’ private information for multiple years.
Unfortunately, due to intelligence terminology Judge Collyer’s brief and ruling is not an easy read for anyone unfamiliar with the FISA processes. That complexity also helps the media avoid discussing it; and as a result most Americans have no idea the scale and scope of the Obama-era surveillance issues. So we’ll try to break down the language.
For the sake of brevity and common understanding CTH will highlight the most pertinent segments showing just how systemic and troublesome the unlawful electronic surveillance was.
Early in 2016 NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers was alerted of a significant uptick in FISA-702(17) “About” queries using the FBI/NSA database that holds all metadata records on every form of electronic communication.
The NSA compliance officer alerted Admiral Mike Rogers who then initiated a full compliance audit on/around March 9th, 2016, for the period of November 1st, 2015, through May 1st, 2016.
While the audit was ongoing, due to the severity of the results that were identified, Admiral Mike Rogers stopped anyone from using the 702(17) “about query” option, and went to the extraordinary step of blocking all FBI contractor access to the database on April 18, 2016 (keep these dates in mind).
Here are some significant segments:
The key takeaway from these first paragraphs is how the search query results were exported from the NSA database to users who were not authorized to see the material. The FBI contractors were conducting searches and then removing, or ‘exporting’, the results. Later on, the FBI said all of the exported material was deleted.
Searching the highly classified NSA database is essentially a function of filling out search boxes to identify the user-initiated search parameter and get a return on the search result.
♦ FISA-702(16) is a search of the system returning a U.S. person (“702”); and the “16” is a check box to initiate a search based on “To and From“. Example, if you put in a date and a phone number and check “16” as the search parameter the user will get the returns on everything “To and From” that identified phone number for the specific date. Calls, texts, contacts etc. Including results for the inbound and outbound contacts.
♦ FISA-702(17) is a search of the system returning a U.S. person (702); and the “17” is a check box to initiate a search based on everything “About” the search qualifier. Example, if you put a date and a phone number and check “17” as the search parameter the user will get the returns of everything about that phone. Calls, texts, contacts, geolocation (or gps results), account information, user, service provider etc. As a result, 702(17) can actually be used to locate where the phone (and user) was located on a specific date or sequentially over a specific period of time which is simply a matter of changing the date parameters.
And that’s just from a phone number.
Search an ip address “about” and read all data into that server; put in an email address and gain everything about that account. Or use the electronic address of a GPS enabled vehicle (about) and you can withdraw more electronic data and monitor in real time. Search a credit card number and get everything about the account including what was purchased, where, when, etc. Search a bank account number, get everything about transactions and electronic records etc. Just about anything and everything can be electronically searched; everything has an electronic ‘identifier’.
The search parameter is only limited by the originating field filled out. Names, places, numbers, addresses, etc. By using the “About” parameter there may be thousands or millions of returns. Imagine if you put “@realdonaldtrump” into the search parameter? You could extract all following accounts who interacted on Twitter, or Facebook etc. You are only limited by your imagination and the scale of the electronic connectivity.
As you can see below, on March 9th, 2016, internal auditors noted the FBI was sharing “raw FISA information, including but not limited to Section 702-acquired information”.
In plain English the raw search returns were being shared with unknown entities without any attempt to “minimize” or redact the results. The person(s) attached to the results were named and obvious. There was no effort to hide their identity or protect their 4th amendment rights of privacy; and database access was from the FBI network:
But what’s the scale here? This is where the story really lies.
Read this next excerpt carefully.
The operators were searching “U.S Persons”. The review of November 1, 2015, to May 1, 2016, showed “eighty-five percent of those queries” were unlawful or “non compliant”.
85% !! “representing [redacted number]”.
We can tell from the space of the redaction the number of searches were between 10,000 and 99,999 [six digits]. If we take the middle number of 50,000 – a non compliant rate of 85 percent means 42,500 unlawful searches out of 50,000.
The [six digit] amount (more than 10,000, less than 99,999), and 85% error rate, was captured in a six month period, November 2015 to April 2016.
Also notice this very important quote: “many of these non-compliant queries involved the use of the same identifiers over different date ranges.” This tells us the system users were searching the same phone number, email address, electronic identifier, repeatedly over different dates.
Specific person(s) were being tracked/monitored.
Additionally, notice the last quote: “while the government reports it is unable to provide a reliable estimate of” these non lawful searches “since 2012, there is no apparent reason to believe the November 2015 [to] April 2016 coincided with an unusually high error rate”.
That means the 85% unlawful FISA-702(16)(17) database abuse has likely been happening since 2012.
2012 is an important date in this database abuse because a network of specific interests is assembled that also shows up in 2016/2017:
- Who was 2012 FBI Director? Robert Mueller, who was selected by the FBI group to become special prosecutor in 2017.
- Who was Mueller’ chief-of-staff? Aaron Zebley, who became one of the lead lawyers on the Mueller special counsel.
- Who was 2012 CIA Director? John Brennan (remember the ouster of Gen Petraeus)
- Who was ODNI? James Clapper.
- Remember, the NSA is inside the Pentagon (Defense Dept) command structure. Who was Defense Secretary? Ash Carter
Who wanted NSA Director Mike Rogers fired in 2016? Brennan, Clapper and Carter.
And finally, who wrote and signed-off-on the January 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment and then lied about the use of the Steele Dossier? The same John Brennan, and James Clapper along with James Comey.
Tens of thousands of searches over four years (since 2012), and 85% of them are illegal. The results were extracted for?…. (I believe this is all political opposition use; and I’ll explain why momentarily.)
OK, that’s the stunning scale; but who was involved?
Private contractors with access to “raw FISA information that went well beyond what was necessary to respond to FBI’s requests“:
And as noted, the contractor access was finally halted on April 18th, 2016.
[Coincidentally (or likely not), the wife of Fusion-GPS founder Glenn Simpson, Mary Jacoby, goes to the White House the very next day on April 19th, 2016.]
None of this is conspiracy theory.
All of this is laid out inside this 99-page opinion from FISC Presiding Judge Rosemary Collyer who also noted that none of this FISA abuse was accidental in a footnote on page 87: “deliberate decisionmaking“:
This specific footnote, if declassified, could be a key. Note the phrase: “([redacted] access to FBI systems was the subject of an interagency memorandum of understanding entered into [redacted])”, this sentence has the potential to expose an internal decision; withheld from congress and the FISA court by the Obama administration; that outlines a process for access and distribution of surveillance data.
Note: “no notice of this practice was given to the FISC until 2016“, that is important.
Summary: The FISA court identified and quantified tens-of-thousands of search queries of the NSA/FBI database using the FISA-702(16)(17) system. The database was repeatedly used by persons with contractor access who unlawfully searched and extracted the raw results without redacting the information and shared it with an unknown number of entities.
The outlined process certainly points toward a political spying and surveillance operation; and we are not the only one to think that’s what this system is being used for.
Back in 2017 when House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes was working to reauthorize the FISA legislation, Nunes wrote a letter to ODNI Dan Coats about this specific issue:
SIDEBAR: To solve the issue, well, actually attempt to ensure it never happened again, NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers eventually took away the “About” query option permanently in 2017. NSA Director Rogers said the abuse was so inherent there was no way to stop it except to remove the process completely. [SEE HERE] Additionally, the NSA database operates as a function of the Pentagon, so the Trump administration went one step further. On his last day as NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers -together with ODNI Dan Coats- put U.S. cyber-command, the database steward, fully into the U.S. military as a full combatant command. [SEE HERE] Unfortunately it didn’t work as shown by the 2018 FISC opinion rendered by FISC Judge James Boasberg [SEE HERE]
There is little doubt the FISA-702(16)(17) database system was used by Obama-era officials, from 2012 through April 2016, as a way to spy on their political opposition.
Quite simply there is no other intellectually honest explanation for the scale and volume of database abuse that was taking place; and keep in mind these searches were all ruled to be unlawful. Searches for repeated persons over a period time that were not authorized.
When we reconcile what was taking place and who was involved, then the actions of the exact same principle participants take on a jaw-dropping amount of clarity.
All of the action taken by CIA Director Brennan, FBI Director Comey, ODNI Clapper and Defense Secretary Ashton Carter make sense. Including their effort to get NSA Director Mike Rogers fired.
Everything after March 9th, 2016, had a dual purpose: (1) done to cover up the weaponization of the FISA database. [Explained Here] Spygate, Russia-Gate, the Steele Dossier, and even the 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment (drawn from the dossier and signed by the above) were needed to create a cover-story and protect themselves from discovery of this four year weaponization, political surveillance and unlawful spying. Even the appointment of Robert Mueller as special counsel makes sense; he was FBI Director when this began. And (2) they needed to keep the surveillance going.
The beginning decision to use FISA(702) as a domestic surveillance and political spy mechanism appears to have started in/around 2012. Perhaps sometime shortly before the 2012 presidential election and before John Brennan left the White House and moved to CIA. However, there was an earlier version of data assembly that preceded this effort.
Political spying 1.0 was actually the weaponization of the IRS. This is where the term “Secret Research Project” originated as a description from the Obama team. It involved the U.S. Department of Justice under Eric Holder and the FBI under Robert Mueller. It never made sense why Eric Holder requested over 1 million tax records via CD ROM, until overlaying the timeline of the FISA abuse:
The IRS sent the FBI “21 disks constituting a 1.1 million page database of information from 501(c)(4) tax exempt organizations, to the Federal Bureau of Investigation.” The transaction occurred in October 2010 (link)
Why disks? Why send a stack of DISKS to the DOJ and FBI when there’s a pre-existing financial crimes unit within the IRS. All of the evidence within this sketchy operation came directly to the surface in early spring 2012.
The IRS scandal was never really about the IRS, it was always about the DOJ asking the IRS for the database of information. That is why it was transparently a conflict when the same DOJ was tasked with investigating the DOJ/IRS scandal. Additionally, Obama sent his chief-of-staff Jack Lew to become Treasury Secretary; effectively placing an ally to oversee/cover-up any issues. As Treasury Secretary Lew did just that.
Lesson Learned – It would appear the Obama administration learned a lesson from attempting to gather a large opposition research database operation inside a functioning organization large enough to have some good people that might blow the whistle.
The timeline reflects a few months after realizing the “Secret Research Project” was now worthless (June 2012), they focused more deliberately on a smaller network within the intelligence apparatus and began weaponizing the FBI/NSA database. If our hunch is correct, that is what will be visible in footnote #69:
How this all comes together in 2019/2020
Fusion GPS was not hired in April 2016 just to research Donald Trump. As shown in the evidence provided by the FISC, the intelligence community was already doing surveillance and spy operations. The Obama administration already knew everything about the Trump campaign, and were monitoring everything by exploiting the FISA database.
However, after the NSA alerts in/around March 9th, 2016, and particularly after the April 18th shutdown of contractor access, the Obama intelligence community needed Fusion GPS to create a legal albeit ex post facto justification for the pre-existing surveillance and spy operations. Fusion GPS gave them that justification in the Steele Dossier.
That’s why the FBI small group, which later transitioned into the Mueller team, were so strongly committed to and defending the formation of the Steele Dossier and its dubious content.
The Steele Dossier, an outcome of the Fusion contract, contains three insurance policy purposes: (1) the cover-story and justification for the pre-existing surveillance operation (protect Obama); and (2) facilitate the FBI counterintelligence operation against the Trump campaign (assist Clinton); and (3) continue the operation with a special counsel (protect both).
An insurance policy would be needed. The Steele Dossier becomes the investigative virus the FBI wanted inside the system. To get the virus into official status, they used the FISA application as the delivery method and injected it into Carter Page. The FBI already knew Carter Page; essentially Carter Page was irrelevant, what they needed was the FISA warrant and the Dossier in the system {Go Deep}.
The Obama intelligence community needed Fusion GPS to give them a plausible justification for already existing surveillance and spy operations. Fusion-GPS gave them that justification and evidence for a FISA warrant with the Steele Dossier.
Ultimately that’s why the Steele Dossier was so important; without it, the FBI would not have a tool that Mueller needed to continue the investigation of President Trump. In essence by renewing the FISA application, despite them knowing the underlying dossier was junk, the FBI was keeping the surveillance gateway open for Team Mueller to exploit later on. Additionally, without the Steele Dossier the DOJ and FBI are naked with their FISA-702 abuse.
…. But sedition charges are reserved for Capitol Hill protestors.
Uh oh….DC federal prosecutor HAS A PROBLEM.
Let me explain:
Now, here is what is so strang: Why would a federal prosecutor knowing the problems this will create for future court cases,take the risk of injuring the due process?
Again, the answer is simple: the FBI does not observe and respect due process. The FBI by design is the secret police spy state…the stazi. It’s says this is the reality..and it then becomes the reality.
We all need to understand what is going on here. Media is complicit in advocating for a secret police state.
You will notice, at NO TIME, did the interviewer of this media slappiece, even bother to ask him:
Do you understand by going on this show and making unproven allegations, well before trials and grand juries have been arraigned….and using aggressive language like SHOCK AND AWE with respect to MASS ARRESTS OF US CITIZENS, and using language specifically, SEDITION, that you are creating a huge problem for the due process that the constitution demands of the federal government?
And the most important question:
Who in the FBI did you seek authorization and guidance about what you could speak about before coming on this show?
none of those questions were asked!
This is exhibit number 1,458,037 why the Department of Justice and the FBI are Not consistent and accountable to the rule of law in the United States.
Theses two agencies are and have been a secret police spy stazi. They are used to pervert the law and abuse citizens of whom hold grievances unresolved by a corrupt state.
jackboots in other words.
punishers.
the gap narrows.
the reckoning…it’s coming.
these people will be held accountable.
Stage 3 advances
more of the majority is joining into the dissent.
stay frosty
God Bless America
It’s all show…nothing more than red meat for the Democrat Party, RINOs, and Liberals to distract from the fact that the Biden Administration is illegitimate and totally non-functional at this point in time
Don’t look at this…look at what they’re NOT talking about to see where the REAL tory lies…
*story
Stop referring to the law to stop Hitler reruns.
No farms, no energy. No unity, no comm, no transportation agreement for trade or security of interstates.
You have a hand that feeds you. This is why we talk online hidden and don’t ever fight (bite) that very hand.
The process, the legal process is the punishment. It’s meant to scare, intimidate and bankrupt people, smear and destroy their lives.
Jail or no jail is irrelevant. Once the family is bankrupted and their reputation in the gutter their lives will be hell.
Rule of law and equal protection have no place in this government. They are proving it.
Lawlessness.
Sounds to me like a shot across the bow. They’re getting ready to make a move – for launch of the Biden replacement strategy probably.
Thus thug’s mission was to ramp up the intimidation factor against the public; to warn people against taking to the streets in protest of the next Installation.
Bye, bye Miss American Pie: 1-A has been unconstitutionally and illegally cancelled, by law enforcement.
Amazing. Stalin, Hitler and every other dictator wanted to rule, but supported their own country.
These scum want to rule, but hate their country and it’s citizens.
Nothing like it. They need to be destroyed. Every one of them.
Mark:
The dawn will come up like thunder. Nationalism, extreme nationalism will come roaring back. It will take the fascist form of absolute forbiddance of criticizing the State. Kamala – female, half-Asian, half-black. It’s all set up. Any criticism of her is racist or sexist. Case closed.
SAY THAT LOUDER, PLEASE!!!!!!!
I wish I knew how.
thank you, Sundance
Real termites hard at work destroying the country.
“My husband works at Ford… they cancelled all production this week due to not being able to get chips for Heavy Duty trucks. “
Sounds like the book, “Atlas Shrugged” by Ayn Rand.
The irony is just how much these industries rely on just in time deliveries and manufacturing ability for their supply chains.
Seems like all of these global supply chains would be exceedingly brittle if put to unforeseen stresses for any extended length of time.
Come to think of it, how long would one think the global economy could run without key people that went Galt?
In today’s America, if you disagree with the official narrative and maybe exercise your right to protest, you’ll tried for sedition?
Is this how it works now?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable”
— JFK
All figured out, Froggy. The welfare state defeats revolution. FDR introduced the welfare state when true revolution was a possibility. All gone.
Tea Party members couldn’t name what government program or benefit they would cut. That’s the juggernaut effect of the welfare state.
Mark Steyn was laughing about anarchists in London marching to protest cuts to welfare programs. Anarchism must mean something very different to them?
When the welfare state collapses due to government debt, we’ll see change. Huge, huge change. Not until then.
One of these days, the RINO clowns in the RNC and those currently enrichening themselves as politicians are going to need our support.
They can swing in the wind.
I am now convinced the only way for the great majority of our citizenry to actually wake up, is for this whole damn thing to burn to the ground.
Civilizations prosper and collapse
… slowly at first, then all in a rush
some civilizations collapse outwardly.
one could easily observe this as the original colonists were first British subjects…
England collapsed its sphere of influence in the colony upon a decisive defeat at the hands of free men who won it.
So too, did the proxy arm of Great Britain also fail in many colonies (east india company) as other territories eventually assumed more independence.
and yet, Great Britain survived…it was definitely altered in it’s sphere of control and influence, but it did survive.
So collapse takes on a different kind of reality for some civilizations.
I would predict based on the dynamics that the revolution that is inevitable within the US will not lead to a the federal central government into a total collapse. That would be ruinous for lots of reasons.
The colonists did not want the british central government to fail. They wanted to gain independence and not be subjects.
I think this is the way most level headed patriots see our predicament.
The United States is a very great idea. The ACTORS and specific corrupt and oppressive laws and technocrats and a corrupt media are our main enemies.
The revolution should it succeed, will likely return MORE POWER to the states and less of it from the federal central government.
We WILL win this. It’s inevitable. The corruption is untenable, unsustainable, and frankly the pain of bearing it will become too extreme for people.
This revolution will have it’s stages…some will be ultraviolent…and come in bursts…locally, focused…some stages may take decades…generations…
the first 4 stages tend to happen rapidly relative to the others.
But they all MUST complete.
they must complete because once initiated there are no other options. No one just quits the efforts. The central state is the immovable object.
the people are the unstoppable force.
equilibrium is only achieved in a revolution..requiring all 7 stages.
this is not theory.
even single society of human have experienced all 7 stages …some multiple times rapidly. (looking at you france, germany…russia…Korea, china, mexico)
I don’t know what America will look like in ten years…But I know it will not look like this at all.
the people will be heard..the people will get involved.
America is very different….our very culture of history remains deeply anchored. Our very existence as a great nation is rooted in the concept of revolution.
I suspect our second revolution will be as pivotal and significant as the first.
I also believe, that AGAIN, GOD will get involved…I believe this, because I believe there remains a vast number of Americans who pray daily about it, who are obedient to God’ laws, and conduct their lives righteously. I am not saying God OWES us. But as I study the history of the forming of this great nation, there is no other way for me to describe the nature of the grievances…so stated in our constitution:
Our rights are not GIVEN by governments. Our rights are provided by God.
When the people rise to accept the federal central governments as a corrupt substitute are illegitimate.
WHEN THAT BECOMES THE GRIEVANCE…I think we start winning..and winning big.
God has always been there for us. He never abandons people. How could he?
This fight is about Americans securing their rights based on where they belong.
that makes THIS revolution very special, unique, and quite winnable. Which is why I believe becomes inevitable.
the people WILL win. Because they will place GOD FIRST.
when that happens…the sea changes…and promises kept will be promises delivered.
I agree, Prayers by thousands, thousands and thousands work. God has his plan for this great Country. Be patient. Evil always loses. GOD WINS.
Stock up on ammo. It is now getting harder to get.
What gets me is their lack of shame and decency.
every single time
You are a bug to them. With zero power to live without them feeding you.
Don’t bite the hand that feeds you. Problem identified.
You can only effectively shame a person who has self respect.
You cannot shame, the unshameable.
They do find ridicule and mockery unbearable though.
Sedition won’t fly. There is the sticky wicket regarding our right to redress our grievances….
This is all about demoralization and MAGA coalition busting
FBI agents and their families are trash
Here is the sedition:
https://t.me/PatrickMByrne/353
Interesting that 60 Minutes backed off the charge that the law enforcement officer who died the following day had been hit on the head with a fire extinguisher, instead focusing on bear spray as the possible cause of death.
His family said he had a stroke.
His body was quickly cremated and the autopsy has not been released.
Shady.
Good luck with that, they know they have no legal basis but they’re using the left’s tried and true motto: The process is the punishment, doesn’t matter if they can’t get conviction they want to financially ruin innocent people to teach them a lesson.
There is no “law” anymore. The private Soros armies attack and destroy at will without consequences. The President of the US was framed, persecuted and attacked unjustly, illegally surveilled, and multiple ongoing coup attempts, until they finally just claimed ownership of the Presidency, and every branch of the supposed US “government” went along with Trump’s illegal ouster. If they can do that to an elected President, openly, and laugh and crow about installing a whore and a senescent corrupt pedophile in his place…with the assistance of the elected VP, we ARE an occupied country. The installation of the Kenyan was the death knell, after Nov 3rd I no longer believe he was ever really legally elected. That is why they hate the country, and us. We are under occupation by an illegally installed communist apparatus that has no allegiance or regard for the country, and is intent on destroying the country and killing white, Christian Americans. Even Putin called the Jan 6 Capitol demonstration a “stroll”. The world sees what has happened here, as the change agents and their families populating the US government works to destroy the US, and hands over to the CCP whatever they want.
I agree. The American Republic has fallen. Rotted and hollowed out from within by hostile entities, both foreign and domestic. Evil triumphant is now openly, brazenly celebrating and solidifying it’s victory. I know God wins in the end, but Revelation is part of the Bible for a reason. It sure seems as though we are beginning to see it’s prophecies fulfilled. Perilous times indeed. May God have mercy upon His people and deliver us from evil. He is our only hope. PRAY!
Meanwhile the governor of NY has murdered nursing home residents by forcing them to be placed back into nursing homes and we have a DOJ who is doing this?
Thousands of senior citizens murdered.
Civil war becoming more and more a reality.
Ooh, big talk! Attack who? Attack what? Are you an FBI agent?
The best way to “attack” our modern state is to stop consuming.
Get off Facebook and Twitter. Stop using Amazon or YouTube. No need to shoot anybody, big shot.
We all know that Democrats go after others for what they themselves are doing. Evil and dangerous psychopaths who are motivated by power and greed.
Uniparty not Democrats.
Well, in the words of joebama’s press secretary–As far as the charge of Sedition goes, dear DOJ: ‘We’ll circle back to you on that!
And yet ANTIFA runs wild. These people are the worst, evil insert name here.
Sorry, Mr. Soiboy prosecutor, you need to shut up and bring your charges.
And then we’ll let 12 jurors decide the case.
It’s easy to blather to the craven media than it is to carry the burden of proof beyond a reasonable doubt to a jury.
Presuming a justice system , are we?
How do you put sand in the TV? Are printing presses still used?
Asking for a friend.
You’re completely missing the point. You ever been tried by a jury for a felony carrying a 20 year bid? It’ll cost $35k for a half ass attorney, $50k and up for a sharp one. That doesn’t include expert witnesses, jury selection experts, video compilations and presentations by videographers, etc. The trial would be in DC where 6 of the 6 jurors (you only get 12 jurors in capital punishment cases) are Democrats. You wouldn’t stand a chance.
They don’t give a darn if they win or lose. They want to ruin your life. Make you penniless. Get you fired. Label you a domestic terrorist. And give you so much stress you have a heart attack or stroke. The stroke is worse because once the brain cells die, that’s it. The heart attack is less worse.
It’s what they do. Mike Flynn, Manafort, etc., etc. No rule of law, just a legal apparatus set upon enemies of communism, satanism, and the NWO.
And what is the main goal of all of this? To discourage people from showing their displeasure with the Biden administration.
Yes, they tried to overthrow the Government…..without any weapons. ?
We’re beyond silly territory now.
That this schmuck is smirking when he talks of charging protesters with sedition, and that he speaks at all of it, puts things into a sharper focus.
The truth must be faced. The DOJ will hunt down, prosecute, persecute, jail, and ruin all who who reject the stolen election. The law has become lawless, criminals with badges and guns. American conservatives need to start asking each other if a modern day version of High Noon will soon be all that’s left to hold evil at bay.
Yes
It’s not hubris, it’s total unchallenged police state tactics whose victims have been left without a party apparatus to protect them.
Trump’s decision not to form another party is a big mistake.
While we wait for the “takeover” they’ll be many more persecutions.
To me and its just a feeling I have. If these people get their way, they will execute people to send a strong message.
Mao 2.o
Fortunately our military still belies in protecting and defending the United States Constitution and its People.
Oh wait! They are at war with them too.
1945: America helped defeat a fascist government.
2021: America has a fascist government.
We all know who was really trying to overthrow the government.
“We don’t know the plan but we know there was a plan.” Yes, that sounds like the 800 unarmed people were at the Capitol to overthrow the government.
The contrast between what happened in DC on 6 January versus what went on for months, in multiple cities, where billions of dollars of damage was done to public & private property, 23 people were killed, 1000s injured, & people were walking around armed, makes the DOJ, FBI, and Mr. Sherwin look ridiculous. Sorry, there is no comparison – it just goes to show how elitist the swamp dwellers are. So little was done to help the citizens that were under a coordinated siege for months, losing their businesses, jobs, & services because of the long-term rioting. So few politicians even spoke out against the violence. Sorry, January 6 was an inconvenience in comparison. And we still don’t know the details of the deaths of that day – only the lies spread by politicians & the media.
That is bizarre and scary at the same time. The DEMS own D.C. and lots of judges.
They will never leave President Trump alone. He could be on his deathbed, God forbid, and they will still go after him. They want him as an example to NEVER buck the swamp agenda, ever!
When the reckoning comes and these seditious actors are finally exposed, indicted and prosecuted, if guilty, I hope the executions are made public.
Wondering when the DOJ will begin charging and prosecuting all those folks who swore out affidavits about election fraud they witnessed? /s/
Far out man, it’s like the Sixties’ commies are going, like you know, wild man to do it all, you know, before the Big Crash sends them like, to the Great Happening in the Sky.
Where is a Tom Clancy scenario when it’s needed.
Yummy idea.
If one is in DOJ/FBI and wishes to move up the ladder, one needs to politicize his actions.
It’s a real problem and unless you have the funds to defend yourself, you cannot protect yourself or family from these rogue law enforcement officials.
I saw Capitol Police chatting with these seditionists. Opening doors for them. Encouraging them to move into the Chamber.
Are Capitol Police seditionists?
We’re back to DOJ being too open and chummy with the mockingbird media.
This is just your friendly reminder that 60 Minutes formerly featured one of the most prominent members of mockingbird media, Dan “I saw the Zapruder film” Rather.
What, are they going to charge all the democrat politicos with treason?
And when will we investigate the criminally stolen election and prosecute those responsible. If those cowards had been present at the Capitol the outcome would have been different. Right Zukerberg, you funded it. That will never change. You own it.
Two groups coordinating about attending a protest event is a conspiracy? Good gosh, what are they thinking? He even says these groups didn’t discuss entry into the Capitol building. And, I’m sorry, but the expression “take back the House, “take back the Senate”, or even “take back our country” is a common political expression used by just about everybody.
This is obviously a political investigation to go after political opponents.
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Excerpt:
‘We’ve charged multiple conspiracy cases, and some of those involve single militia groups, some of them involve multiple militia groups.
‘For example, individuals from Ohio militia were coordinating with a Virginia militia group of Oath Keepers, talking about coming to the capital region, talking about – no specific communication about breaching the Capitol – but talking about going there, taking back the House.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9387379/Trump-appointed-DC-attorney-leading-MAGA-riot-investigation-warns-former-president-charged.html