Tucker Carlson used his TV broadcast on Wednesday night to continue pushing-back against NSA operational data collection that appears to have caught him in their surveillance dragnet. However, what Carlson (and many others) have yet to reconcile is the totality of control held by the newest branch of government, the Intelligence Branch.
CTH has been contacted by numerous interested stakeholders in the larger dynamic. Tomorrow we hope to be able to give readers an explanation of exactly how each traditional branch of government; including the administrative agencies within them; have been taken over by a methodical expansion of the Intelligence Community. Everything is now controlled by the Intelligence Branch, and the underlying mechanisms of government have abdicated, perhaps even abandoned, their oversight.
In the interim, here’s the latest segment from Carlson along with one of CTH earlier outlines on how the NSA database became a surveillance tool for President Barack Obama. We are almost 15 years into a process that facilitates the Intelligence Branch as the most powerful -and unelected- governmental system. After the Carlson segment remind yourself how President Obama exploited a process he created.
There is no workable solution to debate until the American people and congressional representatives admit and accept the totality of the current corrupt system. In essence, until everyone realizes there is a fourth branch of government now in control.
The process to create the Intelligence Branch started around the time the office of the DNI was created (post 9/11/01). However, it was President Obama and AG Eric Holder who took advantage of the framework the ODNI system created with an immediate and methodical plan in 2008. The effectiveness of what they constructed shows up toward the end of the Obama presidency when they were using that system to assist Hillary Clinton.
That is the context to remember a time-frame between December 2015 and April 2016 when the NSA database was being exploited by contractors within the intelligence community, using windows opened by the Obama-era DOJ/FBI, to facilitate unauthorized searches.
On March 9, 2016, oversight personnel doing a review of FBI system access were alerted to thousands of unauthorized search queries of specific U.S. persons within the NSA database.
NSA Director Mike Rogers was made aware.
Subsequently NSA Director Rogers initiated a full compliance review of the system to identify who was doing the searches; & what searches were being conducted.
On April 18, 2016, following the preliminary audit results, Director Rogers shut down all FBI contractor access to the database after he learned FISA-702 “about”(17) and “to/from”(16) search queries were being done without authorization. Thus begins the first discovery of a much bigger background story.
When you compile the timeline with the people involved; and the specific wording of the resulting review, which was then delivered to the FISA court; and overlay the activity that was taking place in the GOP primary; what we discover is a process where the metadata collected by the NSA was being searched for political opposition research and surveillance.
Additionally, tens-of-thousands of searches were identified by the FISA court as likely extending much further than the compliance review period: “while the government reports it is unable to provide a reliable estimate of the non compliant queries since 2012, there is no apparent reason to believe the November 2015 [to] April 2016 period coincided with an unusually high error rate”.
In short, during the Obama administration the NSA database was continually used to conduct surveillance. This is the critical point that leads to understanding the origin of “Spygate”, as it unfolded in the Spring and Summer of 2016.
It was the discovery of the database exploitation and the removal of access as a surveillance tool that created their initial problem. Here’s how we can tell.
Initially in December 2015 there were 17 GOP candidates and all needed to be researched.
However, when Donald Trump won New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina the field was significantly whittled. Trump, Cruz, Rubio, Kasich and Carson remained.
On Super Tuesday, March 2, 2016, Donald Trump won seven states (VT, AR, VA, GA, AL, TN, MA) it was then clear that Trump was the GOP frontrunner with momentum to become the presumptive nominee. On March 5th, Trump won Kentucky and Louisiana; and on March 8th Trump won Michigan, Mississippi and Hawaii.
The next day, March 9th, NSA security alerts warned internal oversight personnel that something sketchy was going on.
This timing is not coincidental. As FISA Judge Rosemary Collyer later wrote in her report, “many of these non-compliant queries involved the use of the same identifiers over different date ranges.” Put another way: attributes belonging to a specific individual(s) were being targeted and queried, unlawfully. Given what was later discovered, it seems obvious the primary search target, over multiple date ranges, was Donald Trump.
There were tens-of-thousands of unauthorized search queries; and as Judge Collyer stated in her report, there is no reason to believe the 85% non compliant rate was any different from the abuse of the NSA database going back to 2012.
As you will see below the NSA database was how political surveillance was being conducted during Obama’s second term in office. However, when the system was flagged, and when NSA Director Mike Rogers shut down “contractor” access to the system, the system users needed to develop another way to get access.
Mike Rogers shuts down access on April 18, 2016. On April 19, 2016, Fusion-GPS founder Glenn Simpson’s wife, Mary Jacoby visits the White House. Immediately thereafter, the DNC and Clinton campaign contract Fusion GPS… who then hire Christopher Steele.
Knowing it was federal “contractors”, outside government with access to the system, doing the unauthorized searches, the question becomes: who were the contractors?
The possibilities are quite vast. Essentially anyone the FBI or intelligence apparatus was using could have participated. Crowdstrike was a known FBI contractor; they were also contracted by the DNC. Shawn Henry was the former head of the FBI office in DC and is now the head of Crowdstrike; a rather dubious contractor for the government and a politically connected data security and forensic company. James Comey’s special friend Daniel Richman was an unpaid FBI “special employee” with security access to the database. Nellie Ohr began working for Fusion-GPS on the Trump project in November 2015 and she was a CIA contractor; and it’s entirely likely Glenn Simpson or people within his Fusion-GPS network were also contractors for the intelligence community.
Remember the Sharyl Attkisson computer intrusions? It’s all part of this same network; Attkisson even names Shawn Henry as a defendant in her ongoing lawsuit.
All of the aforementioned names, and so many more, held a political agenda in 2016.
It seems likely if the NSA flags were never triggered then the contracted system users would have continued exploiting the NSA database for political opposition research; which would then be funneled to the Clinton team. However, once the unauthorized flags were triggered, the system users (including those inside the official intelligence apparatus) needed to find another back-door to continue… Again, the timing becomes transparent.
Immediately after NSA flags were raised March 9th; the same intelligence agencies began using confidential human sources (CHS’s) to run into the Trump campaign. By activating intelligence assets like Joseph Mifsud and Stefan Halper the IC (CIA, FBI) and system users had now created an authorized way to continue the same political surveillance operations.
When Donald Trump hired Paul Manafort on March 28, 2016, it was a perfect scenario for those doing the surveillance. Manafort was a known entity to the FBI and was previously under investigation. Paul Manafort’s entry into the Trump orbit was perfect for Glenn Simpson to sell his prior research on Manafort as a Trump-Russia collusion script two weeks later.
The shift from “unauthorized exploitation of the NSA database” to legally authorized exploitation of the NSA database was now in place. This was how they continued the political surveillance. This is the confluence of events that originated “spygate”, or what officially blossomed into the FBI investigation known as “Crossfire Hurricane” on July 31.
If the NSA flags were never raised; and if Director Rogers had never initiated the compliance audit; and if the political contractors were never blocked from access to the database; they would never have needed to create a legal back-door, a justification to retain the surveillance. The political operatives/contractors would have just continued the targeted metadata exploitation.
Once they created the surveillance door, Fusion-GPS was then needed to get the FBI known commodity of Chris Steele activated as a pipeline. Into that pipeline all system users pushed opposition research. However, one mistake from the NSA database extraction during an “about” query shows up as a New Yorker named Michael Cohen in Prague.
That misinterpreted data from a FISA-702 “about query” is then piped to Steele and turns up inside the dossier; it was the wrong Michael Cohen. It wasn’t Trump’s lawyer, it was an art dealer from New York City with the same name; the same “identifier”.
A DEEP DIVE – How Did It Work?
Start by reviewing the established record from the 99-page FISC opinion rendered by Presiding Judge Rosemary Collyer on April 26, 2017. Review the details within the FISC opinion.
I would strongly urge everyone to read the FISC report (full pdf below) because Judge Collyer outlines how the DOJ, which includes the FBI, had an “institutional lack of candor” in responses to the FISA court. In essence, the Obama administration was continually lying to the FISA court about their activity, and the rate of fourth amendment violations for illegal searches and seizures of U.S. persons’ private information for multiple years.
Unfortunately, due to intelligence terminology Judge Collyer’s brief and ruling is not an easy read for anyone unfamiliar with the FISA processes. That complexity also helps the media avoid discussing it; and as a result most Americans have no idea the scale and scope of the Obama-era surveillance issues. So we’ll try to break down the language.
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For the sake of brevity and common understanding CTH will highlight the most pertinent segments showing just how systemic and troublesome the unlawful electronic surveillance was.
Early in 2016 NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers was alerted of a significant uptick in FISA-702(17) “About” queries using the FBI/NSA database that holds all metadata records on every form of electronic communication.
The NSA compliance officer alerted Admiral Mike Rogers who then initiated a full compliance audit on/around March 9th, 2016, for the period of November 1st, 2015, through May 1st, 2016.
While the audit was ongoing, due to the severity of the results that were identified, Admiral Mike Rogers stopped anyone from using the 702(17) “about query” option, and went to the extraordinary step of blocking all FBI contractor access to the database on April 18, 2016 (keep these dates in mind).
Here are some significant segments:
The key takeaway from these first paragraphs is how the search query results were exported from the NSA database to users who were not authorized to see the material. The FBI contractors were conducting searches and then removing, or ‘exporting’, the results. Later on, the FBI said all of the exported material was deleted.
Searching the highly classified NSA database is essentially a function of filling out search boxes to identify the user-initiated search parameter and get a return on the search result.
♦ FISA-702(16) is a search of the system returning a U.S. person (“702”); and the “16” is a check box to initiate a search based on “To and From“. Example, if you put in a date and a phone number and check “16” as the search parameter the user will get the returns on everything “To and From” that identified phone number for the specific date. Calls, texts, contacts etc. Including results for the inbound and outbound contacts.
♦ FISA-702(17) is a search of the system returning a U.S. person (702); and the “17” is a check box to initiate a search based on everything “About” the search qualifier. Example, if you put a date and a phone number and check “17” as the search parameter the user will get the returns of everything about that phone. Calls, texts, contacts, geolocation (or gps results), account information, user, service provider etc. As a result, 702(17) can actually be used to locate where the phone (and user) was located on a specific date or sequentially over a specific period of time which is simply a matter of changing the date parameters.
And that’s just from a phone number.
Search an ip address “about” and read all data into that server; put in an email address and gain everything about that account. Or use the electronic address of a GPS enabled vehicle (about) and you can withdraw more electronic data and monitor in real time. Search a credit card number and get everything about the account including what was purchased, where, when, etc. Search a bank account number, get everything about transactions and electronic records etc. Just about anything and everything can be electronically searched; everything has an electronic ‘identifier’.
The search parameter is only limited by the originating field filled out. Names, places, numbers, addresses, etc. By using the “About” parameter there may be thousands or millions of returns. Imagine if you put “@realdonaldtrump” into the search parameter? You could extract all following accounts who interacted on Twitter, or Facebook etc. You are only limited by your imagination and the scale of the electronic connectivity.
As you can see below, on March 9th, 2016, internal auditors noted the FBI was sharing “raw FISA information, including but not limited to Section 702-acquired information”.
In plain English the raw search returns were being shared with unknown entities without any attempt to “minimize” or redact the results. The person(s) attached to the results were named and obvious. There was no effort to hide their identity or protect their 4th amendment rights of privacy; and database access was from the FBI network:
But what’s the scale here? This is where the story really lies.
Read this next excerpt carefully.
The operators were searching “U.S Persons”. The review of November 1, 2015, to May 1, 2016, showed “eighty-five percent of those queries” were unlawful or “non compliant”.
85% !! “representing [redacted number]”.
We can tell from the space of the redaction the number of searches were between 10,000 and 99,999 [six digits]. If we take the middle number of 50,000 – a non compliant rate of 85 percent means 42,500 unlawful searches out of 50,000.
The [six digit] amount (more than 10,000, less than 99,999), and 85% error rate, was captured in a six month period, November 2015 to April 2016.
Also notice this very important quote: “many of these non-compliant queries involved the use of the same identifiers over different date ranges.” This tells us the system users were searching the same phone number, email address, electronic identifier, repeatedly over different dates.
Specific person(s) were being tracked/monitored.
Additionally, notice the last quote: “while the government reports it is unable to provide a reliable estimate of” these non lawful searches “since 2012, there is no apparent reason to believe the November 2015 [to] April 2016 coincided with an unusually high error rate”.
That means the 85% unlawful FISA-702(16)(17) database abuse has likely been happening since 2012.
2012 is an important date in this database abuse because a network of specific interests is assembled that also shows up in 2016/2017:
- Who was 2012 FBI Director? Robert Mueller, who was selected by the FBI group to become special prosecutor in 2017.
- Who was Mueller’ chief-of-staff? Aaron Zebley, who became one of the lead lawyers on the Mueller special counsel.
- Who was 2012 CIA Director? John Brennan (remember the ouster of Gen Petraeus)
- Who was ODNI? James Clapper.
- Remember, the NSA is inside the Pentagon (Defense Dept) command structure. Who was Defense Secretary? Ash Carter
Who wanted NSA Director Mike Rogers fired in 2016? Brennan, Clapper and Carter.
And finally, who wrote and signed-off-on the January 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment and then lied about the use of the Steele Dossier? The same John Brennan, and James Clapper along with James Comey.
Tens of thousands of searches over four years (since 2012), and 85% of them are illegal. The results were extracted for?…. (I believe this is all political opposition use; and I’ll explain why momentarily.)
OK, that’s the stunning scale; but who was involved?
Private contractors with access to “raw FISA information that went well beyond what was necessary to respond to FBI’s requests“:
And as noted, the contractor access was finally halted on April 18th, 2016.
[Coincidentally (or likely not), the wife of Fusion-GPS founder Glenn Simpson, Mary Jacoby, goes to the White House the very next day on April 19th, 2016.]
None of this is conspiracy theory.
All of this is laid out inside this 99-page opinion from FISC Presiding Judge Rosemary Collyer who also noted that none of this FISA abuse was accidental in a footnote on page 87: “deliberate decisionmaking“:
This specific footnote, if declassified, could be a key. Note the phrase: “([redacted] access to FBI systems was the subject of an interagency memorandum of understanding entered into [redacted])”, this sentence has the potential to expose an internal decision; withheld from congress and the FISA court by the Obama administration; that outlines a process for access and distribution of surveillance data.
Note: “no notice of this practice was given to the FISC until 2016“, that is important.
Summary: The FISA court identified and quantified tens-of-thousands of search queries of the NSA/FBI database using the FISA-702(16)(17) system. The database was repeatedly used by persons with contractor access who unlawfully searched and extracted the raw results without redacting the information and shared it with an unknown number of entities.
The outlined process certainly points toward a political spying and surveillance operation; and we are not the only one to think that’s what this system is being used for.
Back in 2017 when House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes was working to reauthorize the FISA legislation, Nunes wrote a letter to ODNI Dan Coats about this specific issue:
[SIDEBAR: To solve the issue, well, actually attempt to ensure it never happened again, NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers eventually took away the “About” query option permanently in 2017. NSA Director Rogers said the abuse was so inherent there was no other way to stop it except to remove the process completely. [SEE HERE]
Additionally, the NSA database operates as a function of the Pentagon, so the Trump administration went one step further. On his last day as NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers -together with ODNI Dan Coats- put U.S. cyber-command, the database steward, fully into the U.S. military as a full combatant command. [SEE HERE] Unfortunately it didn’t work as shown by the 2018 FISC opinion rendered by FISC Judge James Boasberg [SEE HERE] NOTE: In hindsight I believe Coats and Rogers moved Cyber-Command into the Pentagon in order to bury the corruption more deeply away from any potential oversight.]
There is little doubt the FISA-702(16)(17) database system was used by Obama-era officials, from 2012 through April 2016, as a way to spy on their political opposition.
Quite simply there is no other intellectually honest explanation for the scale and volume of database abuse that was taking place; and keep in mind these searches were all ruled to be unlawful. Searches for repeated persons over a period time that were not authorized.
When we reconcile what was taking place and who was involved, then the actions of the exact same principle participants take on a jaw-dropping amount of clarity.
All of the action taken by CIA Director Brennan, FBI Director Comey, ODNI Clapper and Defense Secretary Ashton Carter make sense. Including their effort to get NSA Director Mike Rogers fired.
Everything after March 9th, 2016, had a dual purpose: (1) done to cover up the weaponization of the FISA database. [Explained Here] Spygate, Russia-Gate, the Steele Dossier, and even the 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment (drawn from the dossier and signed by the above) were needed to create a cover-story and protect themselves from discovery of this four year weaponization, political surveillance and unlawful spying. Even the appointment of Robert Mueller as special counsel makes sense; he was FBI Director when this began. And (2) they needed to keep the surveillance going.
The beginning decision to use FISA(702) as a domestic surveillance and political spy mechanism appears to have started in/around 2012. Perhaps sometime shortly before the 2012 presidential election and before John Brennan left the White House and moved to CIA. However, there was an earlier version of data assembly that preceded this effort.
Political spying 1.0 was actually the weaponization of the IRS. This is where the term “Secret Research Project” originated as a description from the Obama team. It involved the U.S. Department of Justice under Eric Holder and the FBI under Robert Mueller. It never made sense why Eric Holder requested over 1 million tax records via CD ROM, until overlaying the timeline of the FISA abuse:
The IRS sent the FBI “21 disks constituting a 1.1 million page database of information from 501(c)(4) tax exempt organizations, to the Federal Bureau of Investigation.” The transaction occurred in October 2010 (link)
Why disks? Why send a stack of DISKS to the DOJ and FBI when there’s a pre-existing financial crimes unit within the IRS. All of the evidence within this sketchy operation came directly to the surface in early spring 2012.
The IRS scandal was never really about the IRS, it was always about the DOJ asking the IRS for the database of information. That is why it was transparently a conflict when the same DOJ was tasked with investigating the DOJ/IRS scandal. Additionally, Obama sent his chief-of-staff Jack Lew to become Treasury Secretary; effectively placing an ally to oversee/cover-up any issues. As Treasury Secretary Lew did just that.
Lesson Learned – It would appear the Obama administration learned a lesson from attempting to gather a large opposition research database operation inside a functioning organization large enough to have some good people that might blow the whistle.
The timeline reflects a few months after realizing the “Secret Research Project” was now worthless (June 2012), they focused more deliberately on a smaller network within the intelligence apparatus and began weaponizing the FBI/NSA database. If our hunch is correct, that is what will be visible in footnote #69:
How this all comes together in 2019/2020
Fusion GPS was not hired in April 2016 to research Donald Trump. As shown in the evidence provided by the FISC, the intelligence community was already doing surveillance and spy operations. The Obama administration already knew everything about the Trump campaign, and were monitoring everything by exploiting the FISA database.
However, after the NSA alerts in/around March 9th, 2016, and particularly after the April 18th shutdown of contractor access, the Obama intelligence community needed Fusion GPS to create a legal albeit ex post facto justification for the pre-existing surveillance and spy operations. Fusion GPS gave them that justification in the Steele Dossier.
That’s why the FBI small group, which later transitioned into the Mueller team, were so strongly committed to and defending the formation of the Steele Dossier and its dubious content.
The Steele Dossier, an outcome of the Fusion contract, contains two purposes: (1) the cover-story and justification for the pre-existing surveillance operation (protect Obama); and (2) facilitate the FBI counterintelligence operation against the Trump campaign (assist Clinton).
An insurance policy would be needed. The Steele Dossier becomes the investigative virus the FBI wanted inside the system. To get the virus into official status, they used the FISA application as the delivery method and injected it into Carter Page. The FBI already knew Carter Page; essentially Carter Page was irrelevant, what they needed was the FISA warrant and the Dossier in the system {Go Deep}.
The Obama intelligence community needed Fusion GPS to give them a plausible justification for already existing surveillance and spy operations. Fusion-GPS gave them that justification and evidence for a FISA warrant with the Steele Dossier.
Ultimately that’s why the Steele Dossier was so important; without it, the FBI would not have a tool that Mueller needed to continue the investigation of President Trump. In essence by renewing the FISA application, despite them knowing the underlying dossier was junk, the FBI was keeping the surveillance gateway open for Team Mueller to exploit later on.
Additionally, without the Steele Dossier the DOJ and FBI would be naked with their FISA-702 abuse as outlined by John Ratcliffe.
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In this video NSA Director Mike Rogers explains how he was notified of what was happening and what he did after the notification. It should be noted, as explained by Director Rogers, that after the NSA purged their files of the unlawful search results, the compliance officer kept the audit logs of who was doing the illegal queries. If we did not have a completely compromised legislative and executive branch, those NSA audit logs would be a good place for any inspector general to start digging. Alas, I digress…
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Schumer was being honest for the first time in his life when he told the President that the IC will get him six ways to Sunday. He knows all about the fourth branch of government but doesn’t care, as long as it works in his favor. And we know the entire Uniparty is with him.
Carlson is with him, too.
Yes, the system is corrupt, and Carlson is one of its agents.
This media narrative shift has been brilliantly executed and all of you out there fell for it hook, line, and sinker.
Trump’s visit to McAllen/Edinburg? Crickets.
Every day you come here and dump on Sundance and us. It’s so predictable.
I’ve been on here for years and I don’t recall ever dumping on Sundance. In fact, he’s been warning YOU for years about the dangers of controlled opposition agents.
It appears you’re not listening to him. (Dumping on all of you? Well, if the shoe fits…)
Sundance knows what time it is. My point about Carlson doesn’t negate his about the threat from our alphabet agencies–but it sure aligns with what we all know about controlling the news cycle. He even posted about that YESTERDAY.
Yello? Yello?
Your points are very smart, the timing and effect add up, but you gotta work on your delivery. It sucks – and distracts from your very smart points.
I hadn’t connected the dots between PT’s border visit and the NSA story, and it’s quite a coincidence. Tucker has been a crusader on immigration and ‘replacement theory’ and the PT visit would have led the show. The NSA story blew out the PT story, and the MSM are trying to redirect with the “Tucker is a loon” narrative.
Yes, Tucker is controlled opposition. And no, that does not mean TC’s working for the other side or that his reporting isn’t hugely impactful and important. It mostly means he’s controlled blocking him from reporting on specific stories. How each story is blocked is a totally different question. TC was silent on the election. Was he warned off by his producers, threats of termination from his network bosses, or his own sixth sense about his career? Look no farther than Lou Dobbs for what happens when you buck the system one time too many.
At some point, SD should do a piece on what controlled opposition is and the many ways it works.
There are people trying to get TC fired and disgraced. Stealing and leaking personal emails is a time honored way to do it.
So let’s say you know PT’s heading to the border. You know TC will platform that into his previous reporting on the border crisis and illegal immigration, other conservative outlets will follow, and even the MSM might be forced to report on it. THow do you make that go away?
Total speculation here, but how about:
Have a “whistleblower” contact the TC show, revealing NSA surveillance and stolen personal emails, which are dropping within days to take him out. What could be that damaging? I don’t know, but the NYT ran a story the week before outing TC as a notorious confidential source, but provided no specifics. Are those the TC emails about to drop? Because if they are, the NYT has the story teed up and ready to go.
TC and his producers aren’t idiots – they know they have a legitimately huge news story to break and, if the emails are released before he breaks that story, he’s completely screwed. TC is now “controlled,” because iff he doesn’t run the story and they do release the emails, he faces immense damage.
Of course, TC runs with the NSA story.
What’s interesting now is the NSA’s non-denial denial, followed by the MSM redirect to the “Tucker is a conspiracy theorist” narrative, demanding he show “proof” of his wild allegations.
C’mon Big Joke. Get a grip. While I’m with you in the sense that it’s really hard to know who is and isn’t “with us” or “for us” there’s no denying that calling out the crimes we’ve known about and discussed for decades is definitely favorable to pro-constitution people.
Is there controlled opposition? Yes. Absolutely. Is Tucker one of them? I’m not so sure. I do suspect this is “a show” because this can’t have been the first time Tucker was alerted to all of this. So in this complicated theater of battle, let the facts wash over you and over time you will be able to put the pieces together. The more you fill in the blanks with your own hate, fear and anger, the less you will be able to understand as new information comes out.
You call me Big Joke then castigate me for perceived anger, hate, and fear?
That’s some irony right there.
(I have zero animosity in my posts so you’re making that garbage up out of thin air.)
Still waiting for the substance of your claim about Tucker. It was pretty specific. Surely you can produce proof of what you claim.
I have just as much proof as you do.
Absence of direct evidence doesn’t mean absence of fact. Some things require a bit of faith or deductive reasoning. Sometimes the facts come out later, sometimes not.
My theory aligns better with what we know than anything you’ve come up with, sport.
Prove me wrong. I’ll be waiting. Time to grab a Snickers.
Agreed!
Do you know what Tucker’s dad did for a living?
I believe some skepticism upon all of our parts is warranted about Tucker and othe news presenters.
No. What did his dad do for a living and what does that have to do with whether he’s on our side or not?
Look, it pisses me off that Tucker didn’t call out the election fraud too, but sometimes you have to pick your battles, if you want to stay in the fight. The fact that he didn’t stick his neck out too far is not proof of anything, except that he wants to keep his job and stay in the fight. I haven’t seen one shred of evidence that he’s lying about a whistleblower telling him he’s being spied on. Until I do, I’m not about to blindly believe the claim from some anonymous message board poster.
Tucker’s Dad was Direcror of Corporations of Public Broadcasting. He headed up Voice of America for years. VOA is deep state propaganda as good as it gets. Dad will know all about spying and NSA surveillance.
You need to understand this stuff. These people are not on our side. We are the only people on our side.
Big Jake is totally correct, Tucker exposing NSA surveillance on him, when Dad is about as in it all his life as it gets is one of those moments that should have you shaking your head. Sorry dude. Nothing at this level is reported upon by accident. Half a story, half truth, limited hangout is not “on our side”. It is their side which you, me, Big Jake, and maybe all but one person posting if that, are not included.
Dad’s profession matters greatly for people at this level. Also, I didn’t cover Dad heading a CIA savings and loan. Like Stephan Halper’s Bush Senior’s CIA bank. Oh, Dad’s bank failed just like Halper’s. About $9 billion ish. You should go back to the 1980s and research news reports of who received loans.
I like Tucker, but consumers need to be a bit more savvy before just writing of other consumers who have opinions. Big Jake is on you side. In my opinion.
It became obvious about Tucker on election night. We all who were here the next few days after posted endlessly about it. You must be new.
BS.
I’m not new and I feel the same.
As I have said many times, Carlson would be no better than Maddow and the rest if he shilled for Trump. He’s not supposed to.
Until you can find another journalist who reaches as many Americans as Carlson does AND who speaks on the issues he does (for instance, he has been banging the drum HARD against any and all public policies, pushed by either Dems or Repubs, which either encourage or otherwise attacks the social and/or economic strength of the nuclear family in America), it seems to me to be dysgenic to attack him for not being our mouthpiece.
These are your words: “…and all of you out there fell for it hook, line, and sinker.”
That’s an insult to “all of us.”
Only after that (and other posts like it in tone for days on end) did someone call YOU “Big Joke.”
I myself was thinking “Little Jake” might be a good moniker since the tone you adopt is always that of superiority, the poster who suggests, “I am so much more knowledgeable and perceptive than the rest of you,” but “Big Joke” is very good.
In contrast to your protestation, the tone of your posts almost always suggests a great deal of “animosity,” toward your audience, the readers here at CTH. You’ve exhibited no desire to engage with good will in discussions with your fellow posters.
In other words, it’s been transparent that your purpose here is not to persuade.
I’d go with ‘Big Mouth’.
Another good one.
Jake, ICYMI, there was a story a couple three days ago, in the NY Times iirc, that outed Carlson as one of Fake News’ best “unnamed sources” for many of the Times’ and other publications’ stories.
If that doesn’t support your theory nothing does.
The curious thing is, why did the Times and others out Carlson as one of their “unnamed sources?”
Still pondering that one.
Oh yes – we didn’t all fall for it, we just set about asking more questions and attempting to find more answers.
Be Blessed
Why would you automatically believe anything you read in the NYT? Also why are you reading the NYT, in the first place? Why would you support those lying scum bags in any way, shape, or form?
Makes me suspicious of them, Workingman. Very.
You must be kidding.
You would actually buy anything the New York Times puts out there, buy it unequivocally, not bothering to consider just how it fits their interests to undermine anything that Tucker Carlson says? To undermine his positions not only in the eyes of progs but also in the eyes of conservatives?
That’s a common tactic of the enemy.
Mark Twain said it’s easier to fool people than to convince them they’ve been fooled.
And progressives would rather rationalize it away than admit it.
Corruption like this could never happen without them.
Well, you’ve been fooled on this story. It wasn’t a whistleblower, it was an intentional media narrative shift. A leak. A plant. A ruse. And it worked to PERFECTION.
Can you provide some hard evidence of this statement? Any idiot can make a bold claim and then just leave it out there with nothing to back it up.
Can you provide some hard evidence that it’s a whistleblower and not an intentional leak?
No. You can’t.
And my theory is much more likely than yours.
Maneuver Warfare-John Boyd 101, people.
Carlson is NOT on our side. His track record condemns him.
Are you serious? You’re the one claiming to have inside information on the details of how this went down. I’m simply taking Carlson’s word for it because I have no reason not to. It’s up to you to prove him wrong, if you’re going to make that claim. At any rate, I don’t see anybody else on any other cable news network who is fighting the hateful woke mob more effectively than he is. Feel free to name them if you do.
Having said that, I don’t watch Fox News anymore since they stabbed us in the back on election night but I still like what Tucker is doing and I watch video segments of his show from time to time.
“You’re the one claiming to have inside information on the details of how this went down.”
I did?
Please cite.
“I’m simply taking Carlson’s word for it because I have no reason not to.”
And this is why you fail.
You claim the man is lying. Either provide some evidence to back up your claim or shut the hell up about it. I’m not making any claims whatsoever about what he said, except that it might not be very smart of us to attack every public figure who doesn’t agree with us 100% of the time but who is fighting our battle ever day. There is a reason why the wok mob hates Tuckers’ guts. Again, name me another news figure who is doing more than Tucker to make our case. I’ll wait.
LOL !!!
Tucker was one of them holding the knife in your back on election night.
Maybe he was but how does that prove he’s lying about this specific story? And again, who else do we have on our side who is anywhere near as effective as Tucker Carlson? Sundance is great but he’s not right 100% of the time either and and he’s not on TV every night in prime time. Tucker has a huge following and I just don’t think it’s such a good idea to automatically dismiss him.
He had no power to do that.
He didn’t steal the election and he didn’t call the shots.
In fact, he rarely if ever “works” on Election night. He has not been part of that team.
Let’s see: how many Americans who happened onto Carlson’s show either on Fox or YouTube over the last few years decided they’d vote for DJT and NOT a lib or a prog?
I suspect the number is hefty.
You presume a lot and completely missed my point.
I don’t listen to what carlson has to say unless Sundance has put a segment here to listen to. I’m curios, though, as to what narrative shift you’re suggesting? They want to take the focus off of what? And how many people do you think this ruse has captivated?
As has been stated, we already know we all are spied upon. This isn’t some great revelation. To me, it’s just another one of their ways to normalize all the illegal activity that goes on behind the backs of those who are less informed.
I also don’t buy the idea of an attempted narrative shift from the fact (and story) that our (legal) President Trump was at the border.
Every single person who watched Tucker already knew that President Trump was at the border. An interview with Hannity ran as well.
Deciding that Tucker talked about the NSA to put people off the scent of the other story that PDJT was at the border is downright silly.
Trust no one, then verify.
Exactly.
Don’t watch him if you don’t trust him.
Just don’t tell us how or what to think since you’ve no street cred, no more than the guy who has pitched a tent in Venice.
The only that benefits from undermining the STORIES that Tucker has been covering are the thugs who run the country.
You are making their CASE, aren’t you?
This is what was behind Maxine Waters’ unguarded statement about the vast information system Obama had on everyone.
Reading this well documented history makes me furious that the Kenyan was definitely not elected twice, and possibly not even once, but managed to get himself put into position to cause such irremediable damage, and President Trump was elected twice – against the entire network – and yet only got to serve one of them.
The jug eared one is indeed Kenyan, Muslim and Marxist. He is vile personification of evil. Tooting cocaine while engaging in sexual misconduct, conveniently handled by Beau Biden. It’s organized crime, that is diabolical to it’s core, void of any semblance of morality and dedicated to the destruction of Western culture. They must be destroyed, and done so in such a raw fashion that it will shake to the core anyone having any ideas of picking up the torch. There should be trials as they did in Nuremberg. The head of this creature is the World Banks. Global Bankers have been the driving force in world calamities for centuries.
The devil incarnate.
Trial by Firing Squad. Mostly Peaceful of course.
Barry “the 1/2 WHITE muslim”. Must be eliminated as a message for the elites hiding behind him as the figure head.
Sadly it all worked out beautifully for the deep state.
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You want to put a pic like that here, go get YOUR OWN BLOG.
You make it easy for our political opponents to smear us AND the blog owner. I suspect THAT IS YOUR INTENT>
They would love to call us and Sundance “domestic terrorists” and even IF that term weren’t being bandied about now for their political advantage, they would love to smear all Trump supporters as being like you.
You’re not MAGA . And Donald Trump would despise you. How dare you assume you can speak for him.
You behave as if you’re Antifa.
Tucker made fun of “conspiracy theories” of Trump being surveilled by the IC. For a full two years he would roll his eyes at the Hannity handoff and laugh. Not so funny now huh? Man, if only journalists would have done their job then…
Did anyone else notice that he said they were blackmailing or trying to blackmail him? Wonder how over what?
They’re not. He’s controlled opposition. He’s in on it.
You really think this anti-Trump fool is a White Hat?
Not on your life.
Does it matter? They tried blackmail against Gaetz using a completely manufactured series of claims and innuendos. Pick your favorite false claims. One thing I can tell you, if Tucker was threatened with blackmail and he speaks out anyway? You can bet it’s either (a) something he can survive or (b) something so ridiculously false that no one would believe it in the first place.
Tucker is no Gaetz.
Tucker is more Coney Barrett.
Proof?
They don’t have any.
I’ll admit I am unaware of Tucker doing any such thing. I’d certainly admit to my faults if you show me any clips of Tucker doing what you have said.
What I do remember is Tucker (or was it Hannity?) rushing to have an in-person conversation with Trump at the beginning of the COVID-19 trap and then Trump altering his manner of handling the situation immediately after.
So I’ll wait while you collect a video of Tucker dismissing the matter of Trump under illegal surveillance as conspiracy theory.
Tucker made a habit of dismissing Trump’s positions on many things, including his mocking, condescending, utterly obtuse monologue swipe at Trump’s election fraud allegations last year.
The guy is a tool.
I never saw that.
The news media is now effectively part of the intelligence community.
So-called reporters sit and wait for their IC contacts to call. They report what they are instructed to report. The Russian collusion story amounted to little more than this.
Hunter Biden’s laptop was not reported on. The excuse was that figures in the IC said it might be Russian disinformation. The IC killed the story.
Mark Zuckerberg became a multi-billionaire selling advertising? Everybody on the internet sells advertising. Zuckerberg is an important part of the IC.
Anyone who still has a Facebook account is enabling the beast.
And when the NSA called on Tucker to project faux outrage for a fake story he did as requested–and took everyone along for the ride.
Yes, spying is real, but they’re not spying on HIM. They are his control agents.
It’s been obvious since DJT was elected. The MSM even assured the displaced IC operatives income as contributors to deliver the IC talking points.
I would not e surprised to learn the IC secretly pays them just like any other advertiser.
Tucker is one of those paid IC operatives–or an unwitting dupe.
And to anyone implying those of us who don’t always toe the popular line are plants…
I was an advocate for the Conservative cause decades before Carlson made his abrupt shift from bowtie-wearing, leftist, NPR shill to the coifed, suit-wearing, wanna be heir to Ronald Reagan (never mind his anti-Trump stances on many things, that’s not convenient to some narratives defending this guy) but now I’m a paid IC operative? That’s hilarious.
Years of my commentary here and elsewhere put the lie to that libel.
Then, look at it like this: when your enemy(according to you, it’s Carlson), hands you a weapon that can maim or destroy your other enemies, and you reject adding it to you’re arsenal, you’re foolish. You can never have enough weapons.
Not only ad revenue but personal information of every account holder. All tech companies are just an arm of the ic. They complete the team as the “private partner” that is not subject to congressional oversight. Same as the media hiding behind the freedom off the press.
Tucker is controlled opposition and that’s why he’s still on the air. The NSA spies on everyone and has since Shrub Jr. got the Patriot Act passed. The deep state conveniently forgets that most of the provisions for spying expired or were tossed out.
We can thank Jimmy Cartah for having the FISA courts and the disaster that they are. They should have never been put in place and allowed to exist since they are a star chamber that the Constitution specifically prohibits.
Thank gawd someone besides me is paying attention.
Paying attention or blindly agreeing with you? I’m still waiting for you to give me a list of cable news hosts who have done more than Tucker for our side. I promise you that the left hates him just as much as they hate Trump and us.
Not so blind if sitting at the next desk. Certainly sounds like it.
Yet another RolCon brigade hitting CTH attempting to get a circular firing squad started.
No thanks.
(Oh and I suspect paid by the word – lots of repetitive comments to add up…ka-ching…)
Fakebook and twatter and googoo and alphabet and others have become part of the intelligence agencies alongside of China.
We are working against tremendous odds.
That is an understatement Seneca, at what point do we just fold our hand and walk away from the table. There are days I wish I didn’t know the truth.
The fantasy of a messiah named Trump or DeSantis has to go.
Trump will utterly not be allowed to run for the Republican nomination. (New rule – no impeached Presidents can run. Just that easy.) If all else fails the Republicans would fail to run a Presidential candidate in 2024. The state organizations would refuse to do the paperwork and legwork to get Trump on the various state ballots. They would surely go that far.
Trump is not listening to Sundance. The Republican Party must be captured from the ground up. Trying to claim allies in the Congress one by one is futile. They are politicians, and will betray you in a flash.
The Congress is a lost cause. Reclaim the country from the ground up. Win back local government – school boards, town councils, small town mayors. Leave the heroes on white chargers to comic books.
Texit then, deal with the terrorists about their surrender.
The crooks have gotten to the point of designating the opposition domestic terrorists and are deploying the full mighty power of the gov against us. That angle is a losing battle for us. Fight the US Gov+Law enforcement, Justice Dept who are all corrupt and are after us is a no-no. We won’t win that battle. We have the right o remain silent. That’s it.
FIGHT YES, BUT DON’T BE STUPID. Voting? Only if the system is fixed because is rigged and the most we can accomplish is to disrupt IF we organize.
The reason they ban us from everywhere is so we don’t organize.
ORGANIZING IS KEY. WE NEED TRUMP(or similar) MEDIA.
We all must act as one. Let’s get in the Democrat primary and raise hell. Unseat their safe satanists like Pelosi, Sshumer. Forget about voting Republican in their area. They will steal it. So vote D for their opposition.
Stealing votes for them will be a lot harder in safe areas. They have the system in place to steal in battleground states not so much in Pelosi district. Force them to use resources where they never had to before. Disrupt.
But honestly, anyone think we will make it until 2022? What I mean is, the chance of doing something significant through voting being there in 2022? Really.
Texit is looking like the only way. Then we can take the county back.We need our solid ground. our base to regroup and be free to organize. Away from DOJ’s witch hunt. Then we can join other states like Florida, OK, in the end we may lose California and NY. But…. ok.
This happened to Russia because men forget God. The idea that there is a political solution to a spiritual problem is naive.
You are absolutely right. The dims are guided by the “divide and conquer” principle. And it all plays into the bureaucrats’ greedy hands. I would go further than Tremendous and call the odds practically insurmountable.
Well, I’ll just say that certain facts about the IC workings indicate that the plan was happening well before the Great White Guilt(TM) election of 2008 when the Kenyan was installed (thanks to the GOPe).
Intel collaboration with the dark side started before Obama, or at a time when they were planning to install Obama (from what we now know). Realize that it does take time to design and produce chips, so, roll back 2006 (below) a couple of years.
The tip-off came from one of Snowden’s ppt files that were released.
New Intel CPUs Have NSA Exploitable Secret Hidden Backdoor
https://www.telepresenceoptions.com/2016/06/new_intel_cpus_have_nsa_exploi/
How to Disable the Intel Management Engine Backdoor – Thanks NSA
https://beinglibertarian.com/disable-intel-backdoor-courtesy-nsa/
https://libreboot.org/faq.html#intelme
Bottom Line…
“Introduced in June 2006 in Intel’s 965 Express Chipset Family of (Graphics and) Memory Controller Hubs, or (G)MCHs, and the ICH8 I/O Controller Family, the Intel Management Engine (ME) is a separate computing environment physically located in the (G)MCH chip. In Q3 2009, the first generation of Intel Core i3/i5/i7 (Nehalem) CPUs and the 5 Series Chipset family of Platform Controller Hubs, or PCHs, brought a more tightly integrated ME (now at version 6.0) inside the PCH chip, which itself replaced the ICH. Thus, the ME is present on all Intel desktop, mobile (laptop), and server systems since mid 2006.”
Now, don’t ya’ll feel good hammering on that keyboard?
The federal government is out of control. The constitution has been made irrelevant. Members of Congress no longer represent the people. Activist judges have been installed in our courts. The financial ruination of our country is being caused by an out of control spending habit that has run up a thirty trillion dollar deficit. Alphabet agencies are being used to spy on political opponents of the establishment. Our southern border is being overrun by foreign invaders, while our military is being used on foreign soils. And the last nail in the coffin to our once great republic, we no longer have free and fair elections. If anyone out there thinks the oligarchs are going to gracefully concede their iron fisted control on our so called democratic processes you need help. Go see Doctor Phil.
Some would say that you left out the artificially imposed profound global distress of the plandemic and the genetic manipulation shots, together comprising a global biowarfare scheme that is still executing.
If these observers are correct, there is a distinct possibility that the worst is yet to come, of this scheme.
My list is just a short list. And yes if somehow another outsider got in the WH even worse will happen.
Where’s John Durham?
Edward Snowden is a Patriot.
yeah, I changed my mind on that too…
betraying a corrupt system is not a betrayal of ones oath, it is in fact upholding ones oath.
Interesting he is being shielded inside Russia! Russia! Russia!
Our IC are *so* bad they actually make Russia look good by comparison. Now, THAT’s pretty bad!
Should Trump (or DeSantis) run as the Republican nominee in 2024, there are at least two critical things that MUST be done to both win and succeed: First, the Democrat voting fraud machine must be defeated. And second, if by the Grace of Almighty God either man won, on Day 1, the President would need to clean out the IC agencies as Hercules cleaned out the Aegean Stables.
But all that is just wishful thinking as I have said many times (and will continue to say), we aren’t voting ourselves out of this mess.
The critical thing for the next Republican administration is to clean out ALL POLITICAL APPOINTEES in the first month.
Have to have a pre-vetted list of people loyal to the Constitution to replace them, so the real work starts as soon as someone is nominated.
Of course I agree with you, but here’s the sticky wicket; right before Obama left office, he converted several dozen (if not hundreds) of political appointees to the SES (Senior Executive Service) which has Civil Service Protections.
Plus, there are hundreds more of Bush and Clinton holdovers at various levels who can—and will—wreck havoc.
As someone posted elsewhere on here this morning, what is needed is an outright RIF (reduction in force) three levels down from political appointees.
And if they can’t be RIF’d, then reassign them to Nebraska or somewhere where they can’t make trouble.
Correct if you can’t fire them you can reassign them to seat warming duty. While I don’t like wasting taxpayer dollars, the amount of damage these traitors enable everyday within the District of Corruption is 100,000x worse.
I’m sure many will elect to quit their government seat warming job and go into the private sector to continue to apply their skills for some equally corrupt price fixing cartel.
I would house them all in a bunker in Antarctica. And heat it entirely with solar panels.
Does the SES need to exist? They are full of crazy great Reset loyalist, I have heard. There was a recording of one of their meetings and I don’t know how how to find it. I believe it was aired on the Tore says show.
Breaking: Revolver News on the FBI/DNC staged 1/06 insurrection and unindicted provocateur, Stewart Rhodes, interview with Pete Santilli
https://bitchute.com/video/bnYXD7TrSxKt/
The people in power, those running the government, will never let a good opportunity go to waste to get more power. A bigger piece of the pie.
In recent times this happened right after 9/11/2001. In what I would describe as the classic “knee jerk reaction”, those in government easily convinced us that they needed broader more intrusive powers to counter this new “existential” threat.
And most all of us happily drank the kool-aid. Huge mistake. They are never going to give it back without a major fight. Interestingly, the one single government entity that benefited the most was not the newly created DHS. It was the FBI.
The “I” in FBI stands for investigation. The mandate was simple. Investigate crimes so the DOJ could charge criminals. By definition investigating a crime implies that a crime MUST HAVE BEEN COMMITTED..
That all changed after 9/11. the FBI reinvented itself and became PROACTIVE. Prevention was now the new normal, with all the implications that word brings to the equation. So, the DOJ / FBI became a DeFacto domestic spy agency. That had never been allowed to happen in this country, ever.
These are their own words spoken in 2002 at a Senate hearing by the then head of the FBI:
”Simply put, our focus is now one of prevention. This simple notion reflects itself in new priorities, different resource deployments, a different structure, different hiring and training, different business practices, and a substantially different information architecture. More importantly, it is reflected in how we collect, analyze and share information.”
Federal government spies, police and prosecutors all tied together with a pretty bow. Just like in every other dictatorship on the planet.
After 9/11 the DOJ got rid of what they called “the wall” between counterintel operations and criminal investigations. They claimed that this legal wall was why they could not stop terrorists from entering our country and carrying out their attacks. The FBI wanted legal cover to do everything that they are now doing without any kind of barriers. That’s why James Comey threw a fit when “the program” was reported on by the NYTimes in 2005. He didn’t want the DOJ/FBI to be blamed.
A sociology professor I had back in 2005 (who also was a military criminologist) said this Minority Report policing structure was the holy grail federal investigators had been waiting for. And when even local police show up, we don’t really know what kind of pre-emptive info they’ve been told about anyone. Civil liberties is becoming a quaint phrase from our past.
Now it’s open season on anybody the IC doesn’t like: 6 ways from Sunday.
New Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) said Tuesday that President-elect Donald Trump is “being really dumb” by taking on the intelligence community and its assessments on Russia’s cyber activities.
“Let me tell you, you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you,” Schumer told MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow.
“The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media.”
— William Colby
And we know he drowned under suspicious circumstances. Evidently the Company never forgave him and let it be a message to other directors down the road.
This “fourth branch” sounds more like a fifth column to me.
Even if they did an in depth investigation, does anybody here believe any real change would come from it? The federal government is never going to make itself smaller and less powerful, no matter how many complaints, hearings, or investigations there are. Maybe they would write a new law but they would either find a way around it or they would just break it and dare us to do something about it.
And yet, as big and powerful as the federal government has become, if the STATES would reclaim their constutional authority OVER AND ABOVE the federal government, this could largely be stopped. (The states, by virtue of being the CREATORS of the federal gov, are constitutionally more powerful. The same rule in nature: the creator is always more powerful that the created).
The states need to say to the Fed govt “hell no, you are not doing that here, you have no constitutional authority,” and stand together for the blowback that most certainly would come from Washington and the compliant states. But it must be done. The founding fathers gave us the tools and example. We just have to follow their lead….
What these traitors do not understand is the far reaching consequences of their duplicity. No patriotic American citizen will ever trust a single branch of government again. The only solution is a complete dismantling of the current system which means a bloody civil war. Does one need to question why the obama regime armed up all the alphabet agencies to an absurd extreme? Pandora’s box can never be closed once it’s opened.
When I think about a possible solution to defeat the satanic left I always refer to other satanic-leftist systems, like China, NK, Iran…
What can people do in those satanic leftists countries to get rid of their tyrants? Not much, flee is it.
Well, we aren’t fleeing. So the only solution I see is Texit or something drastic like that.
In China, if you protest they arrest you and torture you, or shoot you….see Jan 06. We are there!
They spy on you, they control you, we are there too.
You are guilty and proving your innocence is impossible. See Flynn
They can go after you and your family for opposing the gov.
Our gov is asking our kids and our family to turn us in if they “see something” See Soviet Union.
Yeah, the old methods of fixing things are no longer valid.
The problem I have with our side is that most people are still in 1990’s. They think we can explain things and vote to fix things.
We can vote, we should, I will, but that will not fix anything, we may disrupt and piss them off and I’m all for it. We have to fight the non-elected officials who are really in control and have 6 days to Sunday… Yeah… That kinda of challenge.
Even if we win all seats up for grabs in 2022 we will still have too many RINOS in the GOP enough to give Ds majority. Thats what RINOs are. They are Ds. They will protect the non-elected officials and we will back here, where we are, being persecuted.
IF, HUGE IF, we win all seats we want in 2022, you can be 100% sure the threatened swamp will change election, law and guarantee they will get those back and defeat us in 2024.
They control how we play the game, they make the rules and will change it so they can win. It’s a casino.
The US stopped pretending to being a free country and it doesn’t bother anyone except Putin when he defends himself against being accused of being a tyrant. That’s it!
Everyone else is moving in the same direction. Europe is lost.
The most important thing for the right to understand.
WE ARE LIVING IN A POLICE STATE. CONSTITUTION HAS BEEN VOID.
Act and plan accordingly.
Stop refering to the rule of law when going after the swamp.
Get real.
Any plan of fighting back must take in consideration that we are dealing with a Chinese style Police State. Get that in you head then go ahead make plans.
To me, the most interesting part of the story is the spectacular competence and effectiveness of the Obama crew. It’s hard to believe that Obama himself was really at the steering wheel. Given his minimal administrative competence and work ethic, even thinking up such an extensive and well-protected operation surely seems far beyond his limited skills.
One could only hope that a pro-American group or organization could somehow rise to this level of brilliance, perspicacity, and efficacy.
Excellent point. Who directed Obama, Clapper, Brennan , Mueller, media, et al.
Correct, same with the current administration.
Figure heads who are ‘acceptable’ to the voting base who still believe voting matters.
Same people behind the curtain in various agencies ready to move the previous plan forward.
So many so called ethical, moral, high integrity people who were in positions to speak up, investigate and expose these crimes while talking how they support the rule of law but flat out failed to act.
IMO they are either flat out cowards or completely complicit in this corruption and criminal actions to undermine Americans and this great country.
The pure evil people are just that, pure evil and will do what evil does but it is the so called conservatives, the people who spent so much time and energy trying to tell Americans about their integrity and commitment to the rule of law and acting like they wanted to get to the bottom of this who IMO are the real frauds and traitors to this country.
Americans must never forget this group of “actors” who completely betrayed the American people and this country.
You don’t get promoted up the chain of corruption unless you are compromised just like them. Its part of the system of control.
What I don’t understand is how a few good ones get through? General Flynn and others come to mind. But as we have seen once you go against or shine light on their corruption you become a target of the equal corrupt judicial system immediately.
A smear of someone, a smear so vile it destroys their life, doesn’t have to be based on fact.
A perfectly innocent person is susceptible to any country in which power is concentrated and held by the corrupt.
So, please don’t assume that person they go after is guilty of any wrongdoing.
So far the analysis is spot on, but the China connection isn’t explained. Remember when Obama said election rigging was impossible because the process was so decentralized? His understanding of the problem is a tell for how he found a solution. When and how did the US intelligence branch become aligned with the CCP?
The Chinese have a virology center in Wuhan China where biological weapons are manufactured and our agencies donated money to that cause. Possibly in return they helped the same people in our system to get rid of Trump with election cheating.
We know the government is spying on us. Trump knows it. They all know it. Most of them don’t care because they think they are protected, or the IC has them nailed already with blackmail.
The Trump team and his close allies have to know they are being monitored. They have to know the IC is watching all phone calls, emails, texts, IP activity, etc. They have to know Wray and Garland are reading and listening to every word they say over electronic media.
The swamp knows what the Trump team is doing in real-time.
The question is: how do you plan and communicate with your people without the eavesdroppers getting the info?
I also think they should set up a sting:
Choose select people to meet behind closed doors. Do a bug search of the room. Then, install jammers and blockers (sorry, not a tech guy) to prevent any outgoing or incoming signals to the room.
Then, search each person who enters the room. Use a bug searching device. Inspect all items that can have a mic or camera. All phones are left outside. Make everyone sign a log and a legal document that makes each person responsible for 1 billion dollars if they leak any information from that closed-door meeting. Any hesitancy- booted out of the Trump team for good. This would have to be a tiny, close-knit group- Trump pulse no more than three others. None of his children.
Then game plan in that room to capture them spying and shine sunlight on it. In addition, this is how you talk through your upcoming agenda. You record the meeting on an old digital, non-Bluetooth, non-wifi camera. You also have someone transcribe the meeting in pen. That will stay with Trump at all times. The game plan:
It’s a straightforward one. All in that room, create a narrative that will get the Government Party giving each other reach around, fellatio, self-pleasure, you name the over the top reaction. As part of this, you send fake emails. You send each other fake texts. You make up fake people (but with generic names- Spencer Smith, John Jones, or Sarah Sanders). You make up a fake event. You mention polling numbers and expected turnouts. You mention some fake BIG BREAKING PIECE of information you got from an “insider” and drop the name of a Government Party intern or staff member.
To sell the ruse: Trump and one or two other close aids very nonchalantly allude to the fakery in speeches but not directly.
The IC can’t just sit on that….someone will leak it. Play their game but better.
Yes, but what if PDJT and others are saying the same stuff in private as they do in public? What value would that information to the IC be? Its not like the extreme corruption of Federal Government isn’t known and openly discussed far and wide at this point. Even members of Congress state this on the house floor.
About 99% of our energy though needs to be directed at taking over the GOP from the inside/ground level and putting in a honest election system as far and wide as we can for 2022 to at least have a working majority (MAGA + MAGA lite + Scared RINOs that flip from fear they are next to be unelected) to shut down the last two years of this illegitimate administration.
Then get PDJT or similar into office in 2024, and unlike 2016, reassign to seat warming duty and/or fire about 90% of those currently in the executive branch. You can be assured that anyone that has been their for a long time is most likely corrupt or enabling the corruption via silence.
Those old timers that won’t become whistle blowers to help us further uncover the corruption network in order to save their job and thus switch sides; should be gone one way or other. Afterall we can use the fact that there is no honor among thieves to our advantage.
The techniques above are the same ones used to take down organized crime networks. Its just that its never been attempted at this scale before.
I agree with you. But, unless voting laws are put in place to get rid of mail-in ballots and require voter ID, the electing part may be a tad difficult.
Won’t the 99% of the “Good” FBI Agents help? Sean said so…call the FBI.
The more I read from “The Anarchist Handbook” by Michael Malice, the more I think that our government/corporate system isn’t “TO BIG TO FAIL,” it’s to BIG TO WORK, and to big to trust.
IMO Tucker should dedicate at least 5-6 straight program days exposing and showing the American people the evidence of this MASSIVE illegal spying operation that has been organized and underway since at least 2008 when the Hammer Program was converted from a foreign surveillance system to a domestic surveillance system.
I’d start with a one hour interview of the Hammer Whistleblower so people are fully aware of the people who began that operation and the tools they had and used way back in 2008. IMO their jaws will drop if he tells the world he turned over 47 hard drives with over 600 million pages of documents/evidence of spying to the FIB back in 2015 and he has the signed receipt to prove it.
I’d then put Sharyl Atkinson on the next day so her story can also be told to the American people as another example of the spying.
Then on day 3, I’d try and get Adm Rodgers and possibly someone close to the FISA Court and the 99 page document that was written if they can, to come on the program and speak what they could about what they saw regarding the massive amounts of 702 queries being done so the American people can understand how the Hammer program morphed into NSA abuse using contractors to spy and gather info on Americans.
Then I’d use day 4 and 5 for Tucker to interview Sundance so he can tell the complete story that he outlines so well here in CTH. There is no one who knows the dates, events coupled with the supporting documents going all the way back to 2008 like Sundance.
Imagine Sundance’s details and evidence coupled with Tucker’s TV reach of 50-70 million Americans. Can you say way better than Woodward and Bernstein?
I’d wrap it all up on day 6 by bring in PT for a final interview where PT poses the common sense questions about this spying abuse and crimes that were ignored by so many and even naming names and then close by telling the American people how we must unite to take back our country from these evil doers who wish to destroy our way of life, our Constitution and this great Republic.
If Tucker did 6 straight days of exposing the spying abuse as outlined above, IMO the knowledge gained by millions would be astronomical and hopefully to the point where Americans are so outraged that come 2022 the MAGA party candidates dominate and we win back the House and Senate, paving the way for a triumphant return of PT and the rule of law in 2024.
“Tens of thousands of searches over four years (since 2012), and 85% of them are illegal. The results were extracted for?…. (I believe this is all political opposition use; and I’ll explain why momentarily.)”
How come we didn’t hear about the second and third GITMOs that were set up after the first one was overflowing with all these known criminals?
My biggest takeaway from this excellent recap of NSA’s role in Crossfire Hurricane is that ONE PERSON in a responsible position – in this case Mike Rogers – can (by acting with integrity) make a world of difference.
For those of us who believe that God places people in positions of influence and power (for such a time as this) we can be encouraged. One NSA Director, One judge, One insider with explosive evidence, just One – can bring light to the darkness!
Any chance that the NSA is doing their job responsibly, but that the political appointed leaders of the fbi, cia, dni etc… Created memos to allow access to allow access to the NSA database LEGALLY?
Meaning, there are the special gov one day or quarterly tickets to Snoop it…
So the NSA is trying to say we don’t officially do that…. But unofficially through memos domestic access to it is happening?
“the underlying mechanisms of government have abdicated, perhaps even abandoned, their oversight.”
“Their oversight.” ????
There Is No Oversight: The NSA Withheld Documents From Intelligence Committee Heads
Mar 28th 2014
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140327/08140826708/there-is-no-oversight-nsa-withheld-documents-intelligence-committee-heads.shtml
Excerpts:
There has never been effective oversight of the NSA’s bulk collections programs, or indeed, intelligence agencies in general. There’s been a lot of noise made about this vaunted oversight in defense of programs revealed by leaked documents, but this is nothing more than a talking point.
At The Big Picture, a clip of Sen. John D. Rockefeller (then Chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence) discussing how oversight actually works has been posted. It’s from an interview given in 2007, about the time the FISA Amendments Act was being put together to replace the expiring Protect America Act. The amendments act, among other things, extended the length of warrantless surveillance and gave telecoms retroactive immunity for their participation in the NSA’s bulk collections.
Here’s Rockefeller explaining why, even back in 2007, intelligence oversight was a joke:
DAVIS: Reports quote administration officials as saying this is going on and it’s being done in a way to avoid oversight of the Intelligence Committee. Is there any way—
ROCKEFELLER: They’ll go to any lengths to do that, as we’ve seen in the last two days [during hearings on FISA].
DAVIS: Is there anything you could do in your position as Chairman of the Intelligence Committee to find answers about this, if it is in fact going on?
ROCKEFELLER: Don’t you understand the way Intelligence works? Do you think that because I’m Chairman of the Intelligence Committee that I just say I want it, and they give it to me? They control it. All of it. ALL of it. ALL THE TIME. I only get – and my committee only gets – what they WANT to give me.
Audio clip:
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The only “oversight” is the intel agencies oversight of the overseers:
Book: Three Felonies A Day: How the Feds Target the Innocent
In Three Felonies a Day, Harvey A. Silverglate reveals how federal criminal laws have become dangerously disconnected from the English common law tradition and how prosecutors can pin arguable federal crimes on any one of us, for even the most seemingly innocuous behavior. The volume of federal crimes in recent decades has increased well beyond the statute books and into the morass of the Code of Federal Regulations, handing federal prosecutors an additional trove of vague and exceedingly complex and technical prohibitions to stick on their hapless targets. The dangers spelled out in Three Felonies a Day do not apply solely to “white collar criminals,” state and local politicians, and professionals. No social class or profession is safe from this troubling form of social control by the executive branch, and nothing less than the integrity of our constitutional democracy hangs in the balance.
“The President has put in place an organization with the kind of database that no one has ever seen before in life,” Representative Maxine Waters told Roland Martin on Monday. “That’s going to be very, very powerful,” Waters said. “That database will have information about everything on every individual on ways that it’s never been done before and whoever runs for President on the Democratic ticket has to deal with that. They’re going to go down with that database and the concerns of those people because they can’t get around it. And he’s [President Obama] been very smart. It’s very powerful what he’s leaving in place.”
She certainly did fear our knowing about it, did she, nor do I recall hearing anyone from the GOP attacking this.
They are also enlisting the big tech in their surveillance.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/microsoft-exec-details-frightening-doj-abuse-of-secret-requests-for-americans-data-in-hearing
If the requests are above board, secrecy orders would not be needed. I would say those orders are illegal themselves.
Known knowns: Tucker Carlson is a thorn in the side of the Left. They have tried to drive away his advertising base, and to get him off the air. That hasn’t worked.
Idle speculation. So they move to Plan B: Cancel Carlson’s sources of information, and use him to do it.
What if Democrat (or even RINO) operatives sent a stooge to play whistleblower; fed Carlson a tale of NSA surveillance; he couldn’t resist “being” the story, and promulgated it far and wide. Result: With Carlson himself selling the idea that he is, or at least might be, under NSA surveillance, who will want to communicate with him on any sensitive subject?
Tucker may or may not be ‘controlled’ opposition as may have speculated. But one thing is for sure; in the days of the Soviet Union or in modern day CCP controlled China, they had/have zero Tuckers speaking truth to power in their national media. Sites like this also don’t exists.
So his mere existence gives me hope that we haven’t yet fallen into the full Tyranny.
If the left – Paul Ryan, the Murdoch’s – wanted him off the air, he would be. Like Lou Dobbs. Therefore, the left does not want him off the air.
This is probably all a scam to make it look like he opposes his Fox masters – liberals – when in fact he doesn’t and follows orders instead.
He’s bright enough to have thought of that.
Saw this coming after Snowden exposed it. Thought the sunlight would hopefully stop it but Obama was still in charge so I just imagine the worst possible outcomes with him and I’m always right.
Jobamas biggest achievement which has impacted us more the anything else in my opinion was weaponization of the MSM.
This is the BIGGEST STORY NEVER TOLD in the mainstream media.
This was a plan crafted in the pits of Obama hell.
Sundance is the master puzzle assembler.
Now what?
8-Step Problem Solving ProcessStep 1: Define the Problem
Step 2: Clarify the Problem
Step 3: Define the Goals
Step 4: Identify Root Cause of the Problem
Step 5: Develop Action Plan
Step 6: Execute Action Plan
Step 7: Evaluate the Results
Step 8: Continuously Improve
Call me the slow guy, but isn’t this exactly the same sort of governmental dynamics where ‘former’ KGB guy Putin muscled that first-among-equals agency to the top of the surviving Nomenklatura heap, when the Soviet Union collapsed?
I clearly recall a huge increase in KGB, et al, infusion against The Main Enemy (which would be us), even as The West reached out to try and help them build a market economy in the mid-1990s. Intel community, indeed.
The snake shed its skin at least once, maybe twice. But it’s still a snake…cue the song…
To characterize the IC as a fourth branch minimizes the truth in some way. What we are looking at is an unaccountable body of operators with power and influence over the three legitimate branches of government. There are lots of ways to describe or name this “fourth” but the complete lack of functional checks and balances makes this far worse than Sundance conservatively and carefully states.
Anyone who lived in or near chicago has first hand knowledge of and has experienced this. I tried to explain to people around the country I ran into that obama and the organization that placed him in office were bringing the chicago style politics to the national stage. Now they have the best of the best system to carry it out.
When to many control the few you have a country. When the few control the many the country is lost.
This system of surveillance did not end. There is no reason to consider it has not been refined and currently being utilized to maintain real time analysis on the citizens and eliminate opposition. The social scoring of the CCP will be introduced.
During the period that radical Islam was being promoted to engage in meddling in other countries, I never thought “woke” American women would accept wearing face coverings, yet they complied wholeheartedly with made up fear of the joint CCP/US bio weapon virus release.
Calling January 6th an “insurrection” justifies using surveillance openly within the system. Anyone around Trump or DeSantis will be destroyed. Any real opposition leader needs reliable staff to be effective, where will such persons be recruited from?
Tucker is complaining that at some level he is reaping what he has sown?
He was certain in November that the government that is spying on him couldn’t corrupt a Presidential election. No sympathy from me. Just disgust.
Again, people who are in the media, have known this for a long time. It only gets brought up when someone supposedly reputable or credible discovers their own information has been recorded and tracked.
“Why are they reporting on this now? We knew about the NSA spying long ago, and told you. Nobody wanted the truth. The judicial corruption and fake news is cover. The amazing Schiff faced liar. Knowingly and willingly. Obsolete media and internet controls. The payoff is access to corruption. Chemistry class redux. Walking proteins and modified tangles. Graphene as a binder is just the start. Ligands, clots and your personal operating system. Brave doctors do exist. What they are doing is hacking”
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Let us not forget Andrea Chalupa and Brent Kimberland, the Speedway Bomber and convicted pedophile, a felon who “some how” received a security clearance were researching Manafort and Trump from the Ukrainian embassy on behalf of the DNC in 2016. They were paid, she says so on her sister’s podcast. They also, according to the podcast, were involved with trying to hack the Georgia voting machines in November 2016. Again, from the Ukrainian embassy. Andre Telechenko, sanctioned by Pompeo and Mnuchin, the whistle-blower confirmed all of this in early 2017.
Chalupa seems to have been obsessed with Manafort.
I believe we are all being spied upon because I believe Snowdon. I told my congressman’s staffer this yesterday. Since Admiral Rogers seemed to be the only person concerned, this situation has now gotten worse. The left has determined long ago political opposition equals domestic terrorism and they feel free to go full throttle. That means we are all in life threatening danger.
“That means we are all in life threatening danger.”
..which reminds me: Don’t forget to go get your jab. /s
Too bad Mike Rogers was never to be heard from again on this subject after his testimony and his retirement in 2018.
I’ve often wondered about him just disappearing.
This is all just Tucker theater. He gets to burnish his controlled opposition credentials by tilting at windmills. Nothing will come of this, nothing will change, there will be no hearings.
But Tucker will look like he’s fighting so hard for us, and he’s under so much attack from the enemy.
When is he ever going to get around to reporting on how Fox Corp controls what gets reported, as that heroic Fox reporter told us? Has he done any reporting on that?
Any part of government that operates as “anti-terrorist”, “counter-terrorist” etc. is not looking for terrorists, they are looking for leverage against people the deep state/administration wants leverage on.
DHS Phil Haney was actually “counter-terrorist”, and several years ago the Amador County Sheriff turned over evidence of his murder to the FBI. Then….nothing.