Ex-Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood President Mohamed Morsi Sentenced To Life In Prison…

An Egyptian court has sentenced former Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi to life in prison while simultaneously passing down death sentences for six co-conspirators.

Those who followed the 2011 Islamic uprising in Egypt saw the Obama administration and Hillary Clinton support the Muslim Brotherhood and their candidate Mohamed Morsi.

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President Obama was thrilled with the Morsi election and immediately called him with congratulations.  Secretary of State Hillary Clinton flew to Cairo to express the administration sentiments and well wishes personally.

Unfortunately it did not take long before Morsi began deconstructing the secular social constructs, disbanding the Egyptian court system, and attempting to institute Sharia Law.

Thousands of Coptic Christians were slaughtered after Morsi took control and empowered the Muslim Brotherhood to attack his political enemies.

As president, Mohamed Morsi opened the Egyptian jails releasing hundreds of Muslim Brotherhood terrorists, including Mohamed Al Zawahiri the brother to al-Qaeda’s leader in Afghanistan Ayman Al Zawahiri.

Morsi Clintonmorsi with imadinnerjacket August 20th 2012

After a year of brutal dictatorship within Egypt, and with thousands of Egyptians killed as a result of the Islamic terrorists within the Muslim Brotherhood, the people of Egypt reached out to the widely respected General Fattah el-Sisi to restore order and bring peace.

The Egyptian army responded to the call of the citizenry and removed Morsi from power.

Morsi protestHandout picture of al-Sisi kissing the mother of an army officer, who was killed during the recent Egypt uprising, during the graduation ceremony of a new batch of non-commissioned officers at the NCOs' Institute in Cairo

Six months after the restabalization of Egypt elections were held and el-Sisi won the presidency with over 75% of the vote.  It took President Obama over six weeks before he would call el-Sisi and make contact with the moderate leader.  Sisi remains a widely popular leader (82% support) who was able to bring peace and stability along with a more secular outlook.

The Obama administration continues to belittle the efforts of Fattah el-Sisi but lets take a look at what he’s accomplished:

◾Disbanded the Muslim Brotherhood as a political terror entity. (link)  (link)
◾Arrested those who burned churches and attacked Coptic Christians. (link) (link)
◾Jailed or banished the extremist forces.  (link)
◾Supported Israel’s right to exist and defend it’s borders.  (link)  (link)
◾Defeated Hamas in the border region. (link)  (link)
◾Destroyed the border terror tunnels used by Hamas  (link) (link)
◾Pressured Hamas and the PA to negotiate the ceasefire, and forced the PA and Hamas to assemble ONE negotiating group for their interests. (link)  (link)
◾Fought extremism in the Sinai region, and fought against ISIS infiltration.
◾Fought the Libyan new al-Qaeda network “Libyan Dawn”.  (link)
◾Charged and prosecuted the leadership of the Muslim Brotherhood, who fled to Qatar.  (link) ◾Followed the MB to Qatar and initiated sanctions against Qatar until they stopped financing and harboring terror.  (link)
◾Formed a coalition against Qatar including the UAE and Saudi Arabia who withdrew their ambassadors and isolated Qatar in the region.  (link)  (link)
◾Won reelection with almost 70% of the vote. (link)  (link )   (link)
◾Holds an 80%+ job approval rating among ALL Egyptians. (link)
◾Shut down Qatar financed Al Jazerra propaganda machine.  (link)
◾Supported framework for a new constitution with minority protections.  (link)
◾Won a victory against Qatar as they finally conceded and stopped safeguarding terrorists. Sending the MB leadership to the new safe harbor of Turkey.  (link)
◾United the moderate (non violent) Arab coalition, the Gulf Security Council, and constructed a unity principle that supports the safety of Jordan and formed a coalition to defend if needed.  (link)
◾Faced down and quietly defeated Turkey’s bid for a security council seat in the United Nations.  (link)  (link)
◾Negotiated a safe passage coalition for Israel and Greece to form an energy based economic trade agreement.
◾Continues to fight the Islamist extremists inside Libya.  (link)  (link)
◾Continues to fight ISIS in the Northern Sinai region.  (link)  (link)  (link)
◾Expanded the border safety zone with Gaza to insure greater control and protection from weapons smuggling. (link)

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The Muslim Brotherhood and Islamic terrorist networks including ISIS, have been attempting to regain power ever since el-Sisi brought peace to Egypt.  Five leaders within The Brotherhood fled Egypt and took refuge in Qatar.  Those terrorist leaders aligned in abstention with the Islamic State or ISIS.

Eventually the Qatari government came under pressure from the six Gulf Council states to stop providing safe refuge for the Muslim Brotherhood terrorist leaders.  President Recep Erdogan of Turkey gave them safe harbor, and it is believed they remain in Turkey today while coordinating ISIS political advocacy.

Because of the coordinated spying and connected activity to radical jihadists, Egypt was also forced to confront the Muslim Brotherhood sympathizers within Al Jazerra the primary media.  Several Salafist-minded journalists were arrested while engaging in communication and promotion for the Brotherhood against the Egyptian government.  Al Jazerra is also based in Qatar.

Cairo is considered the intellectual epicenter of Muslim scholarship and religion.  President Fattah el-Sisi made a historic plea to the leadership within the Muslim community to stop allowing the promotion of radical Islam.  –SEE HERE

President Obama and Hillary Clinton remain widely despised within Egypt as they are seen as the cause of almost a year of brutality, terrorism, and bloodshed brought upon them by the rise of Mohamed Morsi and the advocacy of the Obama administration.

The last time Secretary Clinton attempted to visit Egypt her entourage was pelted with tomato’s and she experienced a gauntlet of hatred toward her by the victims of her short-sighted policies.

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121 Responses to Ex-Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood President Mohamed Morsi Sentenced To Life In Prison…

  1. Beenthere says:

    Unfortunately the Coptic Christians are still being persecuted in Egypt.while he is a heckalot better than Morsi, el Sisi is not putting that much effort to protect the Copts.

    Liked by 11 people

    • Jenny R. says:

      Al-Sisi is an islamist and has no true love for the Copts — if it keeps him in power, he’ll feed them to the mob. By the same token he is also a pragmatist and will protect them if it is worth his while.
      This is the same as Assad, the Kurds, etc. They would kill Christians to the last one if it was convenient to do so because they are muslim, but it is not because their enemies in the region (other islamists) like killing them even more — and looking moderate is beneficial.
      Look what happened in Lebanon.

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      • remster says:

        obama is only letting a minimal number of Christians into the U.S. as part of his refugee program. Seems he wants them exterminated too.

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        • Jenny R. says:

          I didn’t deny that…I just pointed out that none of those other groups are truly darlings either.

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          • Jenny R. says:

            I’m trying to point out that at no time can anyone make the fatal mistake of thinking it will all be peachy keen and kumbaya with ANY leader in the ME. Their religion demands that there always be problems (and even if they do manage to take over the entire world, still problems — it’s a system set up for such).

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  2. freepetta says:

    Huma Abedin’s family must be upset. After all the “Arab Spring” didn’t go exactly as planned. All those bloody coups must have been a big disappointment and we must thank you and your boss Hillary Clinton for ISIS and the re-emergence of Al Qaeda in addition to the murdering beasts in Africa.

    I can only pray you traitors get what you deserve and it ain’t the presidency.

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    • I share your prayers.

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    • MVW says:

      Hillary made a deal with the devil and the result was and continues to be massive suffering and murder, I won’t say what I think about Obama.

      Obama and Hillary at some point will have to face God, that is my consolation, and just the thought is enough to make me smile. And I am in no rush for them to face that, even that I leave to God. For me knowledge is enough.

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      • skifflegirl says:

        MVW, I am convinced what you say is true. It is generally known around the Clinton inner circle that Hillary became involved in satanic rituals in the 70′ or 80’s. Her soul was sold, one way or another, because of her decisions and actions leading to the pain and suffering she has caused on a massive scale. This is one rap she can never beat. Her fate is inescapable.

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  3. jackphatz says:

    See people, this is how you deal with those who seek to destroy your traditions, your culture. This is what we should have seen coming from our own Congress had they not been so enamored with the Marxist lifestyle they have chosen for us. It’s never too late, never.

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    • Jedi9 says:

      I guess we can take a lesson from this, as Egyptians have more courage to address this problem than we Americans. Americans are too concerned about PC all the while their devices do their thinking for for them, to actually know what is going on around them, and that the so called leadership of America continue to get away with treason. The American People do nothing! Yeah sure go and out and vote, but how does that insure us from mass voter fraud, rigged elections, intimidation, and the mass importation of unsavory characters from middle east countries? Thank God there are still few of us who do know, but it just disgusts me so much to learn, especially from the college ranks how stupid people are that would advocate voting for Hillary and Obama. It disgusts me even more that Obama’s approval ratings are even as high as they high, which is problematic, in the arena of public perception.

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      • WSB says:

        Egyptians have been though enormous upheaval in their history and also rely very heavily on tourism to keep their country solvent. This is why el-Sisi is so concerned about the origin of the two airline crashes.

        The Egyptians knew Obama and Clinton were in this up to their eyeballs, the Egyptians knew their country would be finished with an advent of the MB, and we in the US need to understand this is happening to us as well.

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  4. Okeydoker says:

    Well of course hes a muslim. It explains everything he does.

    Liked by 8 people

  5. The Obama/Clinton foreign policy is analogous to that of carrier pigeons, in that they just flew over and crapped on everything, leaving a mess for others to clean up.

    Liked by 18 people

  6. yakmaster2 says:

    Will we hear our Clinton butt-kissing media talk about this ruling by an Egyptian court? I guess that might happen on the day a pig flies past my window.
    In all the talk of Hilary’s and O’s failures in the Middle East, one never hears even the pundits on Fox talk about the our govt.’s engineering of the “Egyptian Spring”, the supposed indigenous grass roots uprising of the Egyptian citizenry (sarc), and the subsquent brutal MB dictatorship. It’s as if it never happened. Now we have factions in both parties wanting to overthrow Assad despite Iraq, Libya and Syria being hot houses for terrorism. Mr. Trump, save us from all these foreign relations “experts.”

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    • Jenny R. says:

      That was a joke, right?
      All we have ever heard of Al-Sisi is that he is a tyrant who usurped the rightful and democratically elected Morsi (although that was indeed questionable)…who not only played sweetie to the Gulf states and Turkey, but also Iran as well. He was always Erdo’s paid boy.
      Our great NATO ally: Erdogan.

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    • Sentient says:

      Yeah but if they don’t overthrow Assad, how can they build the gas pipeline from the Gulf to Europe to undercut Putin? Assad won’t allow the pipeline, since he doesn’t want to hurt his sole benefactor (Russis). For the neocons, the Cold War has never ended.

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  7. spindlitis says:

    It’s interesting that there is talk about moderate Muslims, yet El-Sisi’s great speech is ignored.

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  8. HolyLoly says:

    Obama and Clinton corrupt everything they touch. Counting the days until Obama’s out and President Trump cleans up their messes.

    Liked by 12 people

  9. TwoLaine says:

    El-Sisi and TRUMP will be great friends. He can give TRUMP many tips on how to take out the trash. Amazing!

    Liked by 16 people

    • Jenny R. says:

      Al-Sisi and Egypt will need Trump to win, and so will Jordan. Turkey and the Gulf States will be turning their attentions (by proxy) to N. Africa very soon. Egypt and Jordan will be fighting off IS proxies on three fronts.
      Proxies of Erdogan’s, who is in league with some of the Sauds and other power players within the Gulf states.
      And if Europe and Russia thought they had it bad before…

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    • Stringy theory says:

      TwoLaine, I agree. El-Sisi and Trump will work together to clean up some of the mess left by hitlery and oblamus.

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    • MVW says:

      Go after the mosques. Go after the Saudi funding of mosques. Go after the fundamentalist clerics. Go after the internet networks, even the dark internet. Get a coalition. Deconstruct the UN resolutions that are rolling out Sharia Law. Undo the treaties that meddle with the US internal affairs. Proper judges.

      Kill Sharia law initiatives in the US.

      Employ full sunshine. Expose the organizations and what they are rolling out.

      Make sure we never have another muslim in the Whitehouse.

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      • TwoLaine says:

        We need to tell the UN to take a leap off a high building. Thy don’t get to choose our refugees, asylum seekers or immigrant programs or quotas anymore. They don’t OWN us. If they don’t like it, pack up and GO HOME!

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      • Jenny R. says:

        And to do that we have to get rid of some certain politicians and other power brokers in this country who make a lot of money off of the same countries who are providing the funding…the Gulf States (primarily KSA, but others working with them — because nearly all of them have done exactly what KSA said to do) have been funding all manner of thing in our institutes of education, buying oil refineries, farms, etc. besides just greasing political palms.
        They’ve gotten themselves thoroughly ensconced into our society — and their paid off toadies in this country will throw a fit (and some they will have no problem threatening the little people with losing work…which is a pretty big motivator in this day and age).
        The Chinese are not the only business problem the U.S. has; the Arabs (and Turks) are pure hubris and can’t plan beyond how to gain access to a land in order to strip it like a horde of locusts and brainwash (or murder) its people.

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  10. Sargon says:

    Can you imagine how many refugees Europe will fill with if Egypt ended up like Syria?

    Liked by 4 people

  11. Southern Son says:

    So sad when foreign countries Justice is more just than ours is.
    Resident oboMao has Always shown more concern for Foreign Affairs than he has for Americans.
    He Immediately called morsi, and sent his codefendant to Cairo, but can’t get off the golf course long enough to show Any significant Concern for Americans Best Interest.
    The Opposite is True. He is, and has Always been determined to undermine and destroy our Country.
    I only hope, that soon, Real Justice will prevail, and the Traitors to the Constitution and Our Laws are held to Full Account for their Lawlessness.

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  12. maiingankwe says:

    I’ve been watching Egypt for some years. I was ecstatic how el Sisi took control of his country through military might and kindness. I believe he could’ve done a lot more to protect the Coptic Christians and their churches, but overall he and his people have done an amazing job.

    Anyone who says it cannot be done in our country needs to look at Egypt and all of their accomplishments in these past few years. Thank you CTH for providing all of the links above.

    I remember being deeply upset when she was not hit by any of the tomatoes. I don’t even think she was there at that moment with her people. Imagine the arrogance of her people and how angry they must have been with their reception. It made me smile that day.

    Trump will work well with Egypt. I also like the fact Egypt did so much to protect Israel. They lost good soldiers within the skirmishes and at border crossing areas and posts. I pretty much like everything they accomplished except more protection with the Christians.

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  13. MacKenzie says:

    I guess Obama would say that, due to this action, Egypt now is officially Islamophobic.

    Liked by 4 people

  14. Sargon says:

    If Muslims do not publically condemn violent jihad, they are sympathizers and collaborators of terrorists.

    Rather than debate what Islam is, shouldn’t we be asking another question?

    If Muslims who profess that they practice Islam, shouldn’t we see affirmative, visible, public signs of them preaching to their own co-coreligionists what they claim they say they believe in: Peace?

    If Muslims are opposed to violence, and hold the Constitution and obedience to law above their religion, shouldn’t they be publically, visibly, frequently, and hugely condemning those who professes to be Muslim who become violent terrorists?

    How many Muslims have you heard state that Jihadist Omar Mateen should go to HELL or suffer punishment from god in the afterlife?

    I haven’t heard one yet.

    Liked by 12 people

    • MVW says:

      Full sunshine on the 1400 years of Islam, and the seamless continuation of violent Jihad into the 21st century. The strategy of implementing Sharia Law and why it must never be given shelter, anywhere.

      Liked by 2 people

    • skifflegirl says:

      Sargon, Omar’s dad didn’t seem upset in any of the news coverage that I saw. In some accounts, Mr. Seddique Mateen seemed almost happy. Is this because he knew what was coming and believed that his son was in paradise for his martyrdom? Not to mention that his son’s act of jihad absolved young Omar of his homosexuality. No, I’d say the Mateen family and a vast number of Muslims are truly proud of what happened in Orlando. It’s in the book. He was just following the book.

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  15. Sandra-VA says:

    I wonder if Morsi/Obama/Clinton really did try to have Amb. Stevens “kidnapped” so that the one eyed sheik could be released… I remember reading some accounts of that night and claims of people hearing “Dr Morsi sent us”… then all hell broke loose.

    P.S. Sundance – are you seeing my tweet replies to you? I replied to the tweet sending this story out (@littletigerone) I think I might have been “shadow-banned” or something…

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    • Crystal says:

      Walid Shoebat translated on his website an Arab video that was taken during the attacks. He said he heard someone say, “Don’t shoot. We were sent from Morsi.” It is assumed that it was Morsi’s men who took Stevens to the hospital. After it was discovered that Stevens had died, it was reported in the overseas media that Morsi once again demanded the release of the blind sheikh. NOTE: It had been reported in our own media in the months preceding the attacks that negotiations for the release of the sheikh had broken down between Morsi and Bari due to US polling being adamantly opposed.

      The original report of the “kidnapping” came from Lame Cherry shortly after the attacks. LC also said that through satellite surveillance, Vlad had discovered the gunrunning op and nests of AQ training in the use of chem weapons on the Turkish side of the border with Syria in order to take out Syrian civilians and blame it on Assad so that NATO would order his removal.

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      • Sentient says:

        It made no sense that Assad would use gas after Obama’s “red line”. The US almost bombed Assad ourselves but the American people rose up to say “no f’n way”, despite the best efforts of Hugh Hewitt and the rest of the neocons.

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  16. John Galt says:

    If Trump wins, maybe he can extradite Hillary to Egypt for trial.

    Liked by 13 people

    • rumpole2 says:

      Yeah… but she’ll have to serve a stretch in USA first 🙂

      Liked by 4 people

    • Shevtsova251 says:

      I think Obama is wanted over there.

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      • Shevtsova251 says:

        Egypt Charges Obama and Hillary with Conspiring with Terrorist Muslim Brotherhood
        “…. Egyptian lawmakers have charged Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton with conspiring with the Muslim Brotherhood.
        Some of the crimes include murder, rape, torture, extortion, bribery, enslavement, and the ethnic cleansing of Egyptian Coptic Christians.
        …. Hillary Clinton was found to be working with ousted Muslim Brotherhood president Mohammed Morsi’s wife, Naglaa Mahmood, in attempting to overthrow the current leader of Egypt, General Abdel Fatah Al-Sisi.
        Naglaa Mahmood has openly admitted that her relationship with the Clintons dates back to the 1980’s, and she has hundreds of recorded telephone conversations with Hillary and other White House officials.
        There is also a charge that Obama and Hillary attempted to bribe the Muslim Brotherhood with $8 billion to turn over part of the Sinai Peninsula to Hamas, in order for them to launch attacks against Israel.”
        http://conservativetribune.com/hillary-obama-charged-terrorists-egypt-muslim-brotherhood/

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        • Crystal says:

          Walid Shoebat also reported this. He translated the front page of a liberal Egyptian newspaper from info provided to it by the Egyptian Army. The Army claimed that when they arrested Morsi, they confiscated documents from his office which proved that Bari and his entire Kenyan family were members of MB International and that Bari funneled $8 BILLION to his half-bro in Kenya, accused of being MB’s financial advisor. Half-bro was to give the money to MB over there to aid Hamas in taking over the Sinai Peninsula. The Egyptian Army issued an arrest warrant for half-bro, accusing him of aiding and abetting a Sudanese terrorist leader, resulting in half-bro going underground with the money. Bari, of course, denies everything.

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          • Shevtsova251 says:

            $8 Billion transferred to Half-bro in Kenya, by Barry! Trump promised to look at all budgets himself, once he’s President. There’s a lot of money that have disappeared from State Department, but not only. Must be easy to steal hundreds of billions of dollars when the country soon is $21 trillion dollars in debt. Who’s counting now? Trump will count soon.

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          • mopar2016 says:

            Good call Crystal.
            Malik Obama is barack’s half brother.
            He’s also an investor and finance minister for the muslim brotherhood.
            I’ve read that he’s been to the white house more than once.
            I wonder how much of our hard earned tax dollars are going to the muslim cult.

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    • jackphatz says:

      Stop it…you’re such a tease!

      LOL

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  17. maiingankwe says:

    I wonder how Morsi is being treated by the jailers. To have lived in such opulence and have fallen so far. His bathroom was probably twice the size or more of his cell.

    Our pres and hc knew what Morsi stood for and what he wanted to accomplish in Egypt. He never hid it. I was really upset when he wouldn’t call and congratulate el Sisi, especially when he was putting an effort to stopping the burning of churches and killing and beating the Christians.

    El Sisi knows the importance of stabilizing Egypt. They are losing so much money from the loss of tourism. I hope they one day reach their goal. Egypt is a beautiful, colorful and wild place with an amazing history.

    El-Sisi has also proven muslims can work with Jews.

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  18. The Hour of Decision says:

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  19. Shevtsova251 says:

    I was happy when el-Sisi took the power. Popular singer Sama Elmasry also thrilled by the change of gov, sang “Hey Obama, you are stupid, bad man” It’s nice to re-listen to that song.

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  20. keebler AC says:

    Barack Ohammed has always sided with and encouraged outright muslim terrorism on christians since his days as Senator with his cousin Odinga in Kenya who heinously burned and killed innocent black Christian families. His enabling of Morsi now sentenced to life in prison and the Cairo execution of murderous Muslim Brotherhood terrorists is another sign that Barack Obama is a terrorist-enabler himself. He hasn’t been impeached for the simple reason that Congress has been bought out by the same muslim sponsors who promised Hillary she would be next president. Every presidential candidate in 2016 except Trump has been clamoring for Muslim Brotherhood sponsorship. The same group outlawed by Egypt for their terrorist activities and genocide against Egyptians for refusing to follow Sharia Law.

    Ohammed needs to see his day in court and prison for purposely supporting terrorist internationally and in America. He refuses to call terrorism by its proper name because it would be calling himself out as part of a network of systematic terrorism against every faith and culture whose ethos is contrary to Islam. Islam cannot and can never coexist with others. Islam is defined against the backdrop of other communities. It’s being and essence is to monopolize and kill off anything different from itself.

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  21. Burnt Toast says:

    Interesting how Obama and Clinton are recognized as terrorist supporters in many countries in the middle-east. In addition to the Muslim Brotherhood they are also tied to CAIR and MAS. Both of those are also banned as terror supporting organizations in the ME.

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  22. Hillary and Obama are rightly hated. The blood these two have on their hands, worldwide, is mind- blowing and unforgivable.

    The list of accomplishments by el Sisi is impressive. I am so very excited to think that a year from now there will be a similar list of important and historic accomplishments by our man, Donald J Trump, President of the United States.

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  23. tz says:

    As Ronald Reagan found out in Lebanon, they are crazy over there.
    We should take what oil we can, declare victory, leave, and leave that hemisphere alone.

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  24. M. Mueller says:

    Oh my God, the blood of Christians these two, Obama and Hillary, have on their hands all over the world. Please, God, that it does not stain America because he was elected here. What filth they are.

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    • keebler AC says:

      Obama won partly because he was grew up in a muslim environment and his father was muslim, ergo, Obama Jr would be capable of improving America’s relationship with Islam – and thereby reducing terrorism. Americans reacted in dhimmitude, fear of terrorism due to 911. Obama proved to be a liar, because he continued as president to incite muslim hatred of Christianity and white people. Americans can’t be blamed, but Obama and Hillary can be held accountable for siding in war with the Muslim Brotherhood when it was none of their business in the first place. They recklessly endangered the lives of Egyptians.

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  25. Sargon says:

    Wars between races / ethnicities are not new. The US went to war twice against Germany, which is predominantly German, and once with Japan, which is ethnically predominantly Japanese.

    Wars between religions have not happened since the end of the Muslim conquest of Europe, and the Crusades, if one do not count the expansion of the Ottoman Empire afterwards.

    Plausibly, one can argue that the European conquest of the Indian subcontinent, Africa, and Americas as a Christian conquest, but the motives of these conquests are so mixed up with commerce and imperial expansion that it is hard to discern.

    Islam in the 21st Century can be said to be on a path of expansion.

    Except it is not a commerce driven expansion, nor a formal drive for territory or empire.

    It is a drive for spread of its religion or ideology throughout the world.

    The question is, do that expansionary drive pose as much danger and risk as wars driven by nationalism, empire, commerce, and many other motives.

    Can the non-Islam world be, in effect, at war with a religion?

    A religion that have no necessary defined territorial space, no borders, no racial / ethnic limitations, but are united by a set of religious edicts and a compulsion to spread the ideas (by force or otherwise) everywhere around the world?

    If so, then what difference is there between Islam and all other expansionary imperial powers?

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    • keebler AC says:

      The goal of Queen Isabella of Spain during the Spanish Conquests was said to be Catholicism in pagan communities – but in actuality she sent out ruthless conquistadors to South America for treasures and riches. I would argue that it wasn’t so much religion as power.

      In comparison, the Founding Fathers did not seek dominion but freedom from tyranny. They were “colonies” but not colonialists from the motherland. They were mostly Protestants too as opposed to Roman Catholics and their belief in God was more deep-seated but they had to slowly learn how to break with existing structures and mindsets. I would argue that Spanish and British conquests were power-driven from the homeland to benefit the existing monarchies.

      American was not built this way. Of course, the remnant of Christian-based religious missionaries and altruism still exist today in third world countries but they operate out of “love” for mankind not “hate” as you see in the Koran. There are isolated pockets of exceptions in Christianity because it runs the gamut too.

      But Islam is whole different kettle of hateful, rotting fish based on the ego of a mad man and pedophile.

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      • keebler AC says:

        America not American (typo in third para), sorry for my spell check.

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      • RC says:

        Keebler AC: Queen Isabella financed Columbus to find a shorter route to the Far East. (Portugal had a lock on the West-African route.) She died shortly thereafter and her husband Ferdinand failed to live up to Isabella’s financing agreement with Columbus.

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        • keebler AC says:

          A shorter route to the Far East to do what – convert the Buddhists and/or Confucious?

          The mission was to seek riches. Columbus was the beginning. Queen Isabella was known as the Catholic monarchy – she shunned the Jews too. She was not totally altruistic altho Spanish history has been written to present her as such. I can’t find the reference again, but Columbus’s expedition sparked off new Conquistadors and the aim was to gather riches from South America as well as the Far East. It wasn’t solely about religious expansionism although there was a certain element of it.

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      • Jenny R. says:

        Excuse me, are you trying to say the Founding Fathers, because they were Protestant, had a more deeply seated belief in God than the Roman Catholic Spaniards?
        Founding Fathers like Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson (the dude who deconstructed the Bible)?
        America was a pretty typical English colony: it was built upon trade and backed up with a well run (for the most part) civil service and enforced with the military superpower of its day. In this the English have always been very proficient.
        A deeply held belief in God has really never been at the core of it.

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        • Jenny R. says:

          Now, I will grant that kings and queens/governments do not operate from the notion of evangelization, but the evangelization component of the Spanish Empire wasn’t a bad thing (see below: I’m kinda glad I’m not stuck doing some of those fun, funky rituals parts of Mom’s family were involved in, just as I’m pretty happy no more gladiatorial games from Dad’s side)…now, there is a caveat: one should not conflate what was going on with the Spaniards with a “religion” that is primarily a construct of government and really has no plans of being “a light onto the world” or ” spreading the good news”, but rather is all about amassing riches and power for itself (and particularly those at the top). And we do indeed have that system, it’s called islam.
          Don’t mix the two up; they aren’t the same.

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          • keebler AC says:

            Excuse me, are you trying to say the Founding Fathers, because they were Protestant, had a more deeply seated belief in God than the Roman Catholic Spaniards?

            Yes, this was exactly what i was saying if you read it from the beginning of the nested thread. And I was also arguing this exact same thing that, “one should not conflate what was going on with the Spaniards with a “religion” that is primarily a construct of government and really has no plans of being “a light onto the world” or ” spreading the good news”, but rather is all about amassing riches and power for itself (and particularly those at the top).

            I also state, but perhaps I should re-clarify, Islam is indeed expanding for their “religion” not for riches as opposed to what was said to be the goal of Spaniards. The Conquistadors continued their violent expansion against the Aztecs and South America in the form of Herman Cortes and others – I hardly call that a deep-seated faith in God.

            Britain also did not form colonies for the purpose of religion. Trade is different from colonialism. Colonialism seeks to dominate with their culture which is what the Spaniards were attempting to do….and La Raza is the new form of this lost cause. A section of Spanish descendants from the South American era still have not given up because of indoctrination. That is the facts, I’m sorry if it offends you, but the holocaust took place under Hitler’s expanisionism and nothing we say today is going to change that.

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            • Jenny R. says:

              The English did indeed use cultural imperialism — quite honestly I find that term ridiculous by the way, as no empire doesn’t do it, it is in the nature of empires — it was just not of any religious flavor. Just look at the use of English as the language of business and global communications and tell me again how the Brits did not engage in “cultural imperialism”.
              And Catholicism is not a “construct of government” any more (and likely less, Constantine did not found the Catholic Church — which is a lot more than just the RCC by the way) than any other Christian faith….might I remind that a certain German monk got his foothold in history thanks to the support and collusion with certain German princes and a certain Anglo church got it’s origins in the marital issues of a certain English king and a certain other sect got its kickoff party started in what are now the Netherlands by making deals with nobility wanting a bigger piece of the pie than what they were getting…so don’t go telling me about “churches as constructs of government”.
              I’m sorry if this offends you, but it’s just a matter of historical truth.

              And the Catholic part of the Spanish empire equation has absolutely nothing to do with La Raza — which got its start under Calles, and thus was quite inimical to Catholicism (Cristeros War…which many non-Catholics in the U.S. supported Calles — and thus La Raza — in the process…sorry if that offends).
              As for brutality? Yep, won’t deny — then again Cortes and his men wouldn’t have gotten support from neighboring tribes if the Aztecs had been a bunch of sweeties, which historical evidence has shown that they were most definitely not (in fact, I’m not sorry they got “brutally conquered”….the outcome of encouraging that line of thought we get to see in the U.S. now…with La Raza…which wants to go back to its Aztec “roots”…and drug gangs like Los Zetas (aligned with Islamic terrorists) and Los Templarlos (a cartel which takes its philosophy from some deranged evangelical preacher man, John Elderidge…some sort of macho Christianity or something…which has amounted to butchering poor Mexican peasants, who are usually Catholic…good job!).

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    • MVW says:

      If so, then what difference is there between Islam and all other expansionary imperial powers?

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    • Jenny R. says:

      How many people did the English convert to Christianity? The British Empire did not engage in religious war….that was a military/economic empire only.
      The only religious objectives gained were when the Spaniards had their empire (and it gets smeared as often as the muslim empires get whitewashed)….honestly it was perhaps for the better that the Spaniards attempted to convert the natives to Christianity…considering what they were up to (skinning a young girl and eating her, then running around in her skin-suit; tearing people’s hearts out, eating them; child sacrifice; other things…I just adore indigenous culture; it’s so quaint and yet exciting; I’m so upset my grandmother’s ancestors got hooked on Jesus by whitey — the old ways were so much better…).
      And the Crusades were not wars of religious empire building…those were Christian lands first and the muslims got up to their usual tricks, which we see front and center now. So it was just Christians coming to the defense of Christians and to keep muslims from further coming into Christian lands, that they had already shown they would come into for conquest (we used to think a bit more, heh, globally back then, at least in that regard).

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      • Jenny R. says:

        Oh, and don’t think I’m being totally supportive of white people here either:
        this whole neo-pagan/ooooh I want to be like my Viking-Celtic-blah blah ancestors stuff is just as bad because:
        those folks really liked dealing in slaves with muslims and had no problems with human sacrifice, cannibalism, sex with little kids/animals/each other in mass etc. In short, just as much a bunch of barbaric, savage, knuckle draggers in need of some civilizing qualities. How awful that a bunch of missionaries converted them; their “folkways” were so charming, so jejeune….

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        • WSB says:

          That’s quite a blunt world history lesson you’ve given us! Agreed!

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        • Jenny R. says:

          In the end it comes down to, well: Thank God for Christianity! As it seems to be one of the most effective systems for tempering mankind’s baser instincts — no matter the race, ethnicity, gender, etc.
          We really are a bunch of nasty monkeys otherwise.

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          • keebler AC says:

            I’m descended from Vikings too, but I find your broad swipe of indigenous cultures or those different from you and Christianity not something I can agree with in good faith.

            The Aztec Culture was not a bunch of nasty monkeys in comparison to the Spanish who sought to dominate culturally and through genetic infiltration as is the current La Raza goal for the world. Their slaves were very well treated and one was not born into slavery. This was the custom in every society from Asia to Europe too. Slavery was also part of the U.S. which were then abolished by Republicans.

            You are regurgitating nastiness typical more of a Lyin’Ted doctrine.

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            • Jenny R. says:

              So you agree with your Viking ancestors use of human and animal sacrifice? Slitting their throats and hanging them up in trees? Slitting their throats and tossing them on a boat to send their nobles off to Vahalla with? You are ok with the Aztecs cutting the hearts out of slaves and prisoners? Priests skinning young girls and then donning the pelt to dance around in, afterwards feasting on the body? That’s ok with you?
              And all to appease their gods?
              Sorry, I’ll take “domination” by a group of people who don’t believe in that sort of thing long before I take “coexistence” with the above mentioned
              And believe me…I’m not regurgitating Lyin’ Ted….Ted’s mental droppings would actually come closer to what you are spouting right now…moral equivalence. Ted is a false Christian; I have no use for those (just read up on what that church of his father believes in…it’s pretty close to those Vikings and Aztecs really).

              And yes, so very nasty of me to regurgitate the truth: and that is that true Christianity (and oh, ok, Torah Judaism if we want to be exact) have been the best way to temper mankind’s baser instincts. Otherwise, given their druthers, people tend to start butchering people (including their own young) and engaging in all many of debauchery…to the point that in order to survive one has to get rather nasty back with them (I believe that’s where the whole story of the Canaanites comes in: not exactly a nice group of folks).

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            • Jenny R. says:

              By the way: I don’t consider fattening select slaves/prisoners up so their nice and plump for the eating when you sacrifice them exactly treating them well.
              I detest slavery altogether, but given the situation I’m pretty sure being treated like a prize hog is a not a desirable fate for a human being…and the notion that is the only reason they “treated them well” is pretty blasted stomach churning (although hardly less than people who then go on to claim they treated their slaves well).

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    • Paul Killinger says:

      “You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you.”

      — Leon Trotsky
      (Founder, Red Army)

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  26. M33 says:

    Does anyone know the middleeastern body count of Bush vs Obama? I wouls suspect Obamas is higher if we look at the numbers…
    Anybody know?

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  27. JeremyR says:

    After reading your list, the only thing he could do that would irritate Barry even more is to repeal Obozocare.

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  28. Bull Durham says:

    Hillary in a dungeon. Better than counting sheep at bed time.
    Imam Obama in a big cage, like ISIS used to burn pilots and soldiers and non-muslims or drown them.

    Images I hope we’ll see.

    Toss in a few Bidens (father and son) and Poroshenko and his nazi team of child killers, and it would be perfect.

    2017 will bring the world some righteous justice.

    As for Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the Gulf States, and Turkey’s leadership, we may see them all come to an end.

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  29. JAS says:

    13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi – just came on Amazon and we’re watching it now. My wife left for the bedroom halfway through the movie in disgust. Don’t recommend watching it without some blood pressure medication. This administration is guilty of murder. How these people sleep at night is beyond me.

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    • Joan Sands says:

      How anyone could watch “13 Hours” and then vote for Hillary is beyond me. But I have seen posts on her Facebook page that the movie is not true, just made up. There are so many really stupid people in the country.

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    • Tony Stark says:

      Same here. My wife couldn’t finish it because she was so disgusted at how Obama and Hillary abandoned American citizens under attack in Benghazi.

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  30. srr says:

    Still Report #957 – Congress Votes to Allow Illegals to Join Military

    18 Jun 2016
    Undocumented Illegal aliens can now join the U.S. military and after a single day in a war zone be granted full rights as a U.S. citizen thanks to a vote in Congress last week.
    All the Democrat members of the U.S. House of Representatives had to vote for it – PLUS 30 Republicans as well to get it passed through Congress.
    In the end every single Republican vote was essential because the measure passed by a one vote margin – 210 to 211.

    SR 956 – Are Terrorists Waging Economic Warfare by Fire?



    Four years ago, former NSA official William Scott briefed the American Center for Democracy that terrorists were using fire as a tactical weapon of war.

    At DRUDGE –

    Homeless man charged in fire deaths was in USA illegally…

    Western Wildfires Triple in Size; Evacuations In 3 States…

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    • WSB says:

      So on the one hand, King (NY) and McSally are voting to admit illegals into the military. On the other hand, we see what illegals think of the US in a literal scorched earth policy.

      Why isn’t this vote breaking the law? And Brat decided not to vote because he was confused?

      This election may be our last. Choose wisely.

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  31. Please do not forget and watch carefully all the people who were involved in Egypt, especially execs from Google, Twitter, training revolutionaries to make it happen and then help Morsi get in. They are still at it. One of the organizers of the AYM along with Google and State Dept., Stephanie Rudat, spent years after this traveling to Pakistan to train their youth on “waging nonviolence”. She was also involved with manipulation concerning Cuba after this. Yet no one has ever heard of her. Her background before all of this was in real estate, art galleries, etc. so how did she suddenly become a global youth organizer with Google and Twitter? Her parents were McCain bundlers back in 2008. Hmmm.
    No matter who wins the election, these people will still be at it. Watch them.

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  32. psadie says:

    Many Arab countries have thrown the Muslim Brotherhood out to protect their citizens YET Obama has welcomed them into our highest levels of the US government. Boehner may have taken impeachment off the table but there still stands the issue of TREASON!

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  33. MVW says:

    Willful blindness, willful lying, parseltongue / worm tongue talking heads on the Newz networks. It is pathological Newz and the media employs psychopaths from the top down. No morals. Clear-eyed truth is absent from their minds. Without truth, we are disarmed.

    Sunlight!

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  34. aredtailblog says:

    On a very silly note, I heard that someone in Egypt named their baby “Facebook” in honor of the network being a tool for their removal of Morsi.

    But more to the point, here’s to hoping El Sisi continues to improve Egypt. Maybe more help to the Coptic Christians and to honor how awesome it used to be before Islam became the dominant.

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  35. HeatherMae says:

    Also Hillary’s wanted by Egyptian court for bribery. They publicly released evidence of cash bribes she paid the MB. Google “Hillary/Muslim brotherhood Walid Shoebat ” to see the evidence. Doesn’t giving material support to terrorists break the Patriot act?

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  36. ZZZ says:

    I thought the Clintons by themselves were the epitome of evil an beyond toxic – the Obama-Clintons combo is WORSE. Can it be?

    Again, I thank the Lord for shining light on their evil deeds – how I hope and pray people read what is written here and see the truth and understand how important it is to get these traitors out of public office. Perhaps they could share the same fate as Morsi…that’s what they deserve.

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  37. Rebel Mope says:

    This article states Morsi was an Islamist so mattter-of-factly it makes one wonder why Obama supported him.
    “CAIRO (AP) — An Egyptian court on Saturday sentenced six people, including two Al-Jazeera employees, to death for allegedly passing documents related to national security to Qatar and the Doha-based TV network during the rule of Islamist President Mohammed Morsi.”
    http://tinyurl.com/heuj5gu
    And what’s with AlGore buying al Jazeera? WTH is going on?

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