President Trump Discusses Unmasking of Flynn and Obama’s Political Surveillance – ie. “Obamagate”…

Maria Bartiromo broadcasts a taped interview with President Trump discussing the topic of Obamagate and how the IC, FBI and DOJ was weaponized against the Trump campaign and incoming administration.

This interview is interesting as to how much President Trump is aware of what took place.

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During the Obama administration the NSA database was continually used to conduct surveillance. This is the critical point that leads to understanding the origin of “Spygate”, or “Obamagate” as it unfolded in the Spring and Summer of 2016.

Initially in December 2015 there were 17 republican candidates that all could be potential targets for political surveillance and opposition research. However, when Donald Trump won New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina the field was significantly whittled. Trump, Cruz, Rubio, Kasich and Carson remained.

On Super Tuesday, March 2, 2016, Donald Trump won seven states (VT, AR, VA, GA, AL, TN, MA) it was then clear that Trump was the GOP frontrunner with momentum to become the presumptive nominee. On March 5th, Trump won Kentucky and Louisiana; and on March 8th Trump won Michigan, Mississippi and Hawaii.

The next day, March 9th, NSA security alerts warned internal oversight personnel that something sketchy was going on.

This timing is not coincidental. As FISA Judge Rosemary Collyer later wrote in her report, “many of these non-compliant queries involved the use of the same identifiers over different date ranges.” Put another way: attributes belonging to a specific individual(s) were being targeted and queried, unlawfully. Given what was later discovered, it seems obvious the primary search target, over multiple date ranges, was Donald Trump.

There were tens-of-thousands of unauthorized search queries; and as Judge Collyer stated in her report, there is no reason to believe the 85% non compliant rate was any different from the abuse of the NSA database going back to 2012.

As you will see below the NSA database was how political surveillance was being conducted during Obama’s second term in office. However, when the system was flagged, and when NSA Director Mike Rogers shut down “contractor” access to the system, the system users needed to develop another way to get access.

Mike Rogers shuts down access on April 18, 2016. On April 19, 2016, Fusion-GPS founder Glenn Simpson’s wife, Mary Jacoby visits the White House. Immediately thereafter, the DNC and Clinton campaign contract Fusion GPS… who then hire Christopher Steele.

Knowing it was federal “contractors”, outside government with access to the system, doing the unauthorized searches, the question becomes: who were the contractors?

The possibilities are quite vast. Essentially anyone the FBI or intelligence apparatus was using could have participated. Crowdstrike was a known FBI contractor; they were also contracted by the DNC. Shawn Henry was the former head of the FBI office in DC and is now the President of Crowdstrike Services; a rather dubious contractor for the government and a politically connected data security and forensic company.

Henry testified to congress that Crowdstrike was an FBI contractor providing intelligence:

Additionally, James Comey’s special friend Daniel Richman was an unpaid FBI “special employee” with security access to the database. Nellie Ohr began working for Fusion-GPS on the Trump project in November 2015 and she was a CIA contractor; and it’s entirely likely Glenn Simpson or people within his Fusion-GPS network were also contractors for the intelligence community.

Remember the Sharyl Attkisson computer intrusions? It’s all part of this same network; Attkisson even names Shawn Henry as a defendant in her ongoing lawsuit.

All of the aforementioned names, and so many more, held a political agenda in 2016.

It seems likely if the NSA flags were never triggered then the contracted system users would have continued exploiting the NSA database for political opposition research; which would then be funneled to the Clinton team. However, once the unauthorized flags were triggered, the system users (including those inside the official intelligence apparatus) needed to find another back-door to continue… Again, the timing becomes transparent.

Immediately after NSA flags were raised March 9th; the same intelligence agencies began using confidential human sources (CHS’s) to run into the Trump campaign. By activating intelligence assets like Joseph Mifsud and Stefan Halper the IC (CIA, FBI) and system users had now created an authorized way to continue the same political surveillance operations.

When Donald Trump hired Paul Manafort on March 28, 2016, it was a perfect scenario for those doing the surveillance. Manafort was a known entity to the FBI and was previously under investigation. Paul Manafort’s entry into the Trump orbit was perfect for Glenn Simpson to sell his prior research on Manafort as a Trump-Russia collusion script two weeks later.

The shift from “unauthorized exploitation of the NSA database” to legally authorized exploitation of the NSA database was now in place. This was how they continued the political surveillance. This is the confluence of events that originated “spygate”, or what officially blossomed into the FBI investigation known as “Crossfire Hurricane” on July 31.

If the NSA flags were never raised; and if Director Rogers had never initiated the compliance audit; and if the political contractors were never blocked from access to the database; they would never have needed to create a legal back-door, a justification to retain the surveillance. The political operatives/contractors would have just continued the targeted metadata exploitation.

Once they created the surveillance door, Fusion-GPS was then needed to get the FBI known commodity of Chris Steele activated as a pipeline. Into that pipeline all system users pushed opposition research.

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234 Responses to President Trump Discusses Unmasking of Flynn and Obama’s Political Surveillance – ie. “Obamagate”…

  1. Mo says:

    We caught Them we caught them!

    Liked by 24 people

    • hocuspocus13 says:

      “They got sloppy”
      📝
      Was always my belief as “they” put their corrupt activities into print!

      Liked by 11 people

    • Bogeyfree says:

      The original phrase was….

      We caught them. We caught them ALL

      ALL to me includes the Top Dogs!

      Liked by 17 people

      • WSB says:

        Dogs. How apropos. Lest we insult true canines.

        Liked by 2 people

      • iPack says:

        POTUS was dodging the question when Ms. Bartiromo asked him point blank “what can be done about this” or “what will be done about this.” And she is not some liberal hack that is ought to get him.

        I’ve been listening to President Trump for a very long time now. He complains all the time, but it’s his DOJ and his administration… From the constitutional standpoint, there is no daylight between WH and the DOJ, it’s all the Executive no matter what some people want us to believe. The President, just like AG, was supposed to uphold and enforce the law. If these people committed the crimes, and we all agree that there is way, WAY freaking more evidence to charge them than there ever was to go after Gen. Mike Flynn (ret.), why are they still at large?

        Why is Chris Wray still at the FBI HQ resisting FOIA requests? He could have been advised to cooperate instead of stonewalling and resisting or be fired for insubordination.

        All these people had access to documents that have already been, or are in the process of being, declassified…

        When POTUS tweets at Sen. Graham to hold Obama accountable, it does sound like an act of desperation. Obviously, Graham is compromised and was in on the Russian collusion con. He supported the appointment of “Righteous Bob” Mueller as Special Counsel.

        When you are a candidate of the opposition, like Mr. Trump was back in 2016, you can complain and talk about things like D.C. corruption, the Swamp, and illegal surveillance because you have no real power to do anything. As a sitting President, I’m afraid this is not going to quite cut it.

        We are in desperate, dire need of accountability ASAP – that means now. We are out of time.

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        • CountryDoc says:

          So you are convinced that the president doesn’t have a plan or isn’t doing his job? What do you think he should do? Do you think he is corrupt? Or just incompetent?

          Do you know for sure he is not continuing to work the network to catch and prosecute “them all” — not just the FISA abuse rats, but Obama, Hillary. Maybe China, or the Soros and their networks.

          We have not even BEGUN to tap into the corruption of the RINOs, US Chamber of Commerce, hijacking of the healthcare systems and the 4Trillion dollars we give them each year, scot free.

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        • Issy says:

          We have some time left. I think Trump calling out people by name is an indication something is coming. He doesn’t go out on a limb when the opposition has a saw.

          Do I think Obama will ever be charged with anything? No, probably not, but I will settle for him being exposed for the fraud he is. Lindsey, better shape up. We know what he was been involved in with McCain.

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          • 28angelica28 says:

            One needed to look no farther than McStain’s funeral to know which side of the fence he fell on. Sure he had R-AZ after his name as did his buddy Flake but those two were as much Republican as Comey. McStain had way more Democrats on his guest list for the funeral than he did Conservatives. I have often wondered if he went to VietNam with the idea of being captured as a prop for a potential presidential run in the future. We know he didn’t have good moral fiber–look what he did to his first wife. Cindy was very useful for her money. Had an issue arisen there, he likely would have dumped her like a hot potato as well.
            As for Ms. Graham, ole Lindsay needs to figure out how to ingratiate him(her)self to President Trump. He/she can stay on the side of the CofC and the Deep State but the consequences may be a little uncomfortable!
            Will Obama be charged? I doubt it too. Had Obama been all white instead of half-white, I guarantee it. The ramifications are far too great to take him down for his many crimes. Like Issy, I want him exposed. The many crimes of which he is guilty should be run in a loop with his “Not even a smidgeon of corruption” exclamation. Lies, lies and more lies. That sums up his administration. A swamp draining is the last thing he wanted to see happen. H, E, double hockey sticks, he didn’t even want a protracted rain that would even filter the swamp stench!
            I won’t let the RINOs off either. It is too late to primary many of them for the November election. This should serve as their wake-up call. Either shape up–big time, which includes accepting lobby money in exchange for their souls–or get your resignation process lined up. From January of 2009 until January of 2017, we had enough abject corruption for a lifetime. Congress aided and abetted a lot of it. There are 535 members of Congress. You would be hard pressed to identify 35 honest members in that lot. Do I favor putting a gun to their heads to have them confess to their sins? Let me put it this way–they had no problem putting a gun to our pocketbook and our freedoms while robbing us blind, allowing illegals to take away American jobs all the while using OUR tax money to keep them here and on their plantation, and granting themselves special priviliges not available to Mr. and Mrs. John Q. Public. If any Congress critter wants to come clean, resign and pay a healthy fine to the US Treasury before the Congressional investigations begin, go to the floor of the House or Senate, whichever your location.
            For those who ceded your responsibility in choosing proxy voting in the House, please leave your resignation with the Sargeant-at-Arms. You weren’t serious when you took the oath of office but we THE PEOPLE will seriously accept your resignation!

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      • VandalizeDuhMastuhsAlgorithms says:

        Hyenas.

        Jackals.

        Brood of vipers.

        Leave the canines out of it.

        Even coyotes and wolves are strongly family oriented and willing to take one for the pack to defend their own.

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    • iPack says:

      But nobody is in jail.

      Liked by 2 people

    • sickconservative says:

      They never thought they would lose with Hillary so got sloppy.

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    • John Good says:

      Bet he was waiting a long time to be able to say this! The timing had to be almost perfect, before Donald J. Trump could announce this about Obama to the World & I personally think that the Trump Administration is going to “destroy everything that the corrupt Obama Administration started”!

      Anyone else here think that President trump is suffering from “air-borne allergies” like pollen, etc.? I noticed swelling on both sides of his nose & the “sniffling” is a sign of allergies. I say this because my nose is always “stuffed-up” or is “runny” & I would do the same thing, if I could not stop the interview & wipe my nose.

      Besides, all the stress that this poor, innocent man has been forced to endure for 3.5 yrs. +, doesn’t help either!

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    • flyboy46 says:

      Catching them is only the 1st step. Hanging them is the GOAL!

      Liked by 2 people

      • John Good says:

        “Ole Sparky” is my choice!

        Since it is the “amps that kill you”, we could all enjoy “a little game of Damn this thing does this every once in a while” as the Executioner plays with the “voltage” before turning up the Amperage to “where Liberal Heads Explode”!

        This is what “nice-guys” who have been “scammed” fantasize about!

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    • john edward lorenz says:

      oh yes the self appointed betters of their fellow citizens couldn’t with all the power of government and support of the goebbels-pravda media still couldn’t be anything other than the gang who couldn’t coup straight. Bureaucracy in action.

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  2. modspell says:

    So refresh my memory, who advised picking Manafort? And why?

    Liked by 3 people

    • gunrunner03 says:

      Excellent question. Thinking a set-up? I know I am.

      Liked by 2 people

    • rmramerica says:

      Yes, who? Then follow the chain of associates back from there. How many republicans will be involved? That’s the interesting part.

      Liked by 4 people

    • Mo says:

      He was only used by the campaign because never trumpers were trying to pull shenanigans at the convention to take the nomination from President Trump. Paul Manafort was the preeminent expert on the nomination of Republican Party who was available & willing to make sure that shenanigans were shut down. He IIRC volunteered though other members who were part of the campaign team. Who exactly don’t vouched for him i don’t remember.

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      • dallasdan says:

        Believable. Thanks.

        Liked by 4 people

      • Issy says:

        Mo – That was exactly what his job was. My state’s republican party attempted to steal the votes for Kasich. If there hadn’t been someone like Manafort at the national convention, who knows what would have happened.

        Anyone ever wondered why Kasich stayed in the race to the end with almost no delegates? I always wondered why establishment republicans liked him. Was the plan to nominate another loser to go up against Hillary?

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    • Sunshine says:

      If I remember correctly, it was Bannon. And Manafort had a specific duty, that of securing super-delegates, which he carried out exceptionally well. He was let go after mission accomplished.

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      • ILOT says:

        That’s my recall Sunshine. Manafort was a power broker and with all power comes a history. I think if the Trump campaign had any inkling that the Russia hoax would become what it did they may have reconsidered. The fact is there is and never was any way in hell PDJT was a surrogate or puppet of Putin. Perhaps ego but more likely honor, no way PDJT would play that role; it’s laughable.

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      • dd_sc says:

        There is also Thomas J. Barrack, according to these:

        https://www.justsecurity.org/46464/timeline-paul-manaforts-relationship-trump-world/

        I just remember Team Trump needed someone to work the convention and Manafort was known to have the expertise to pull it off.

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      • Roger Duroid says:

        He absolutely did his job and when PDJT had the nomination, he was let go since by then, PDJT was more aware of his past adventures. If not for Manafort, lying ted would have the nomination and h would have been elected and we’d have had 2 more liberal SC judges.

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    • crikey9 says:

      John McCain….Manafort worked for McCain on his presidential campaign

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    • dilonsfo says:

      It was President Trump’s friend Tom Barrack.

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    • dilonsfo says:

      Also, Manifort had burned Russian billionaire Oleg Deripaska and Ukranian President Victor Yanukovych for millions of dollars. It is most like those two that put the FBI onto the fact that Manifort had millions stashed offshore from foreign money he had cheated them out of. This led the FBI to believe it could tie Trump’s campaign to the Russians. We know that Yanukovych provided the FBI with records of Manifort’s corrupt dealings with the Ukrainians.

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      • dilonsfo says:

        It is also something of note that Manifort and Roger Stone were partners from the beginnings of Ronald Reagan’s run for President thru most of the early 2000’s.

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      • Issy says:

        Wasn’t Yanukovych corrupt?

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        • dilonsfo says:

          Yes he was and Manifort began advising him before Yanukovych took power. Yanukovych credited his success to Manifort. Manifort took millions and then left Yanukovych’s service to work with the Russian. Yanukovych says he tried many time to contact Manifort about the missing millions but he would never return his calls or texts.

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    • Issy says:

      modspell – Could have been, but he was a well respected republican operative going all the way back to Ronald Reagan. His main job was to keep the delegates in check at the convention and make sure Trump got the votes. He really didn’t have much to do with the campaign, and I believe he was gone by August of 2016.

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    • De Oppresso Liber says:

      I remember reading a couple of years ago that McCain had some influence in Manafort getting that job, but I cannot remember where.

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  3. DesertRain says:

    House report on Snowden is critical to understanding President Trump’s frame of reference.

    https://www.hsdl.org/?view&did=797546

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  4. Lenny says:

    It’s not hard to see why Durham has so much time invested in this, and the security for it no to leak out to the press. There are more tentacles to this story than a hydra.

    Liked by 11 people

  5. Jerry Joe says:

    After getting beat up for 3 1/2 years, it’s official now: Our President is now getting soft on crime. 50 year sentences for those failed coupists? That’s all? Are you kidding around with us?

    We can only hope our good POTUS is still sharing some of his dry, calculated wit.

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    • Dutchman says:

      Given the age of the perpetrators, 50 years is effectively a life sentence.

      While I am fond of public hangings, life in prison is an acceptable alternative.

      Liked by 3 people

      • The Demon Slick says:

        They’ll be out and teaching at Berkley first dem President.

        Liked by 2 people

      • upstate909 says:

        I still vote for public pebbling on the National Mall as a condition of sentencing.

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        • Brutalus says:

          Stockades. Tomatoes.

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          • Brutalus says:

            or Shotputs

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          • lisabrqwc says:

            I’ve often thought stockades placed among the blooming cherry blossoms all around the water with little benches in front of each stockade would be nice.

            Each day I would buy my ticket and decide which traitor I wanted to spend some quality time with. I’ve had all these years waiting for them to be brought to justice, and I’d like an opportunity to have my say to each of them. When I run out of things to say, maybe I’ll sing patriotic songs in my horribly off-key voice. Captive audience + me = cruel and unusual punishment?

            Brennan I would pay an extra premium to punch him in that ugly puss of his!

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        • Dutchman says:

          Stoning? Is THAT what your referring to? I have been rooting for Hangings on the mall,….
          And, had an idea on how these a-holes could pay back the debt they owe; a traveling show.
          Ticket price is like,…$50 to get in,…and we could have a coupon day, or something,…
          They wheel out a dunk tank, filled with raw sewage, and then bring out the miscreants, one at a time, to sit in it, while the audience bids, auction style, on getting to throw the ball.

          How much would YOU bid,..Comey, Mueller,…..WEISMANN!,…Hillary?

          We could pay off the National debt, in a couple of YEARS, LOL.

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          • upstate909 says:

            Maybe a 40 day festival on the mall…..rotating activities so all may participate. Featuring stoning on the post, sewage dunk, tomato toss in the stockade, mud wrestling in the reflection pool, and ending with a choice of sentence: guillotine, gallows or firing squad. Salem witch dunking can be an option in the Potomac River.

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          • 28angelica28 says:

            We could pay it off sooner if we took each on a State Tour. There are well over 50 so there would be enough to go around. I like the way you think with your feces dunk game! In keeping with the coronavirus which I believe the Chinese colluded with the Democrats to keep our President from holding his successful rallies and keeping Dementia Joe in his basement, let’s make sure each one is given a nice “medical” paper mask before going in the tank. And of course, there must be a sink so the “featured guests” can wash their hands before exiting the cage!

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          • 28angelica28 says:

            “How much would YOU bid,..Comey, Mueller,…..WEISMANN!,…Hillary?

            We could pay off the National debt, in a couple of YEARS, LOL.”

            In fairness, Weissmann needs to have a very public private audience with Sidney Powell. I would recommend giving her some kind of grenade launcher to shoot the balls at the target. She could enumerate on a Weissmann indiscretion immediately before every shot. She could tour a state the size of Texas in a month or so and make a small fortune. I would gladly pay to see that. Hey, it could even be a PPV event. Bet it would be the top grosser of all time!!

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      • 28angelica28 says:

        Then again, send them to Remulak and let them narthel the Garthok! Or put them in a Texas death match cage and sell tickets so that REAL Americans can mete out their punishments. I would bet for $100 per opportunity we could cancel the national debt before the year’s out!!

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    • PS says:

      I’m ok with a 50 year sentence commutable to 5 years, as long as they get Epstein’s quarters…. He lasted literally 1 month after entering jail, fancy that.

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  6. dwpender says:

    Sundance — On that wonderful pictorial graphic, you need to add a horizontal line from Ohr to Weissman and Ahmad. Weissman in particular has RICHLY earned his spot in this Hall of Shame.

    You could then, using a wider footprint, occasionally link the existing graphic to the “Mueller team circle.”

    The Criminal Enterprise began in the Obama Administration, but later moved wholesale — with Weissman and Ahmad being the linchpins — into the SCO.

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    • MVW says:

      Romney’s election was given the same treatment as Trump by Obama’s criminals, this was not the first time these intelligence and law tricks were used. I strongly suspect criminal dirt on Romney was uncovered and used to force him to throw the election. Even now it is being used on Romney.

      Chief Supreme Court Justice John Roberts is also bent, in the pocket of Obama. Who knows who else? Lindsey? Trey?

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      • The Demon Slick says:

        I agree. This wasn’t Obama’s first spy clown rodeo. And it’s true that things started getting weird in 2012. Right after Obama got slapped around by Romney in the first debate. All of a sudden everything started to break Obamas way. Strangely so, with Romney taking a dive in the 2nd debate and then disappearing until after the election. The leaked audio was probably a spy recording the meeting, where Romney truthfully said that people on welfare weren’t going to vote for him. But Obama has something a lot juicier than that. He OWNS Romney. Roberts too. Obama spied on everyone and blackmailed everyone. And he’s still doing it. Even the The Pope.

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        • PS says:

          “Binders full of women” probably wasn’t just a list of women to hire.

          My guess is there’s probably some juicy dirt on Bain Capital. Don’t forget , the NSA database isn’t just present calls. It’s *everything* from its inception in 2008.

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        • twinkiethekid2 says:

          Would bet the audit logs showing contractor ID or government ID of each of those 85% non-compliant queries and subsequent download of data is not at all nuclear. Probably more like supernova of tens of thousands of US citizens including every elected official, judge, media, and whoever else they could scam including CEO’s. Looks to me like RICO would fit best, but the dragnet to get all who accessed this data has to be bigger than even the biggest mob case. “We got them, We got them all” The question is who and how many.

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        • 28angelica28 says:

          The Pope has sold Catholicism down the creek and now is trying to align himself with Islam. What influence did Obama have in choosing this pope?

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      • 28angelica28 says:

        Wish someone could print a list of all the searches done on Roberts during Obama’s Reign of Terror. We know about his sketchy adoption. We need to know the rest so that Obama’s crowd can’t continue to use Roberts or any other justice for that matter.

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      • 28angelica28 says:

        I would like to see Adm. Rogers go back and look at the results of all searches beginning 1/20/2009 for any done on John Roberts or any other justice. Also look at results. Once we know what Obama had on Roberts, it is no longer valuable to Obama. We know about his sketchy adoption but there has to be more than that. Hmmm. Please Admiral, we’re pulling for you!

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  7. nojuanimportante says:

    Again, though, how do we separate out illegality from Woods Protocol violations. Remember, the Patriot Act gives them every right to surveill in the case of “national security “

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  8. bullnuke says:

    I believe there were whispers in the halls of congress that many were aware of the surveillance that was going on. No one dared to shine sunlight on the corrupt activities. Many at the time, on both sides, hated the unknown who goes by the name of Trump.

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  9. gingergal says:

    “I do want to congratulate the former president on his new job as press secretary for the candidate locked in the basement. Good job. We’ll be happy to see you out there on the trail.” – Peter Navarro.

    I think the general campaign is well underway.

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  10. Bogeyfree says:

    Now if we can get PT to also say…..

    Where is the Wiener Laptop?

    And where are the 47 Hammer Hard Drives?

    And where are MIfsud’s phones?

    And where are HRC’s 33K emails from her unsecured server?

    And where did the 10K in cash come from that they gave PapaD?

    And where is the deposition from Julian Assange on how Wikileaks got the DNC emails?

    And where is the original 302?

    And where is the missing FIB report to the gang of 8 when they came before them as Nunes said to tell them Flynn didn’t lie?

    Amazing when you think that ALL of this evidence is accessible to Barr and the Boys IMO.

    We Know. How long Mr. Barr??

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    • Amy2 says:

      He’s been asking for the 33,000 emails since the campaign started.

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      • Issy says:

        Amy2 – The NSA have to have the emails.

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        • ann says:

          Thank you Issy. I’ve said that for years. So, I suspect, do many foreign entities.

          Also, I recall reading there was an embedded link p, I think the initial IP was in Japan, but of course that is unreliable and means zip about the actual recipients.

          Who even knows if those reports were accurate? Or extant?

          About the only sources I trust are Judicial Watch and Sundance’s impeccable reporting, in which he inlays primary sources, Treehouse data base ,and links to quoted articles.

          Sundance doesn’t blur the line between speculation and explanations of what is often rather impenetrable and murky material for novices, (me).

          Finding the Treehouse, at last I accessed thorough,fact based coverage backed up by reasoned informed interpretation.

          I digress,

          My point is, I’m cautious about what is asserted as established fact. The DNC server “hack” is just the tip of their iceberg of myths, in my opinion.

          the executive branch has been opaque for at least a decade, that I’m aware of. Yates & Baker boldly codified a policy position that exempts the ILC and JD Nat sec from Congressional oversight.

          Has that exemption been overturned?

          My awkward phrasing might be the reason I’ve received no reply from the Justice Dept. gotten no reply Ditto with queries about Judge Roberts FISC oversight staff:

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    • Dar Adal says:

      I desperately want Trump to win in November. But at the same time, I want him to task Jared and Stephen Miller with putting together a nation-wide presentation for the American public which blows the whole thing up in the event of a loss in November. Names are to be named, crimes are to be exposed, corruption is to be made public; Senate, House, State, DOJ, FBI, CIA, IRS, everything to be outed. No-holds barred. Start preparing it now and let’s hope it never has to be used, but if need be, it must be. The nation deserves to fully understand the truth and come to grips with the depth of the corruption that is our government.

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      • Road Runner says:

        Dar, Trump is not one to take a hit and not strike back ten fold…. I would venture to say that your very valid suggestion is already in play…

        That said, I am of the opinion that, even the democrats can’t cheat enough to get crazy uncle joe out of the basement and into the White House…

        But your point is well taken…

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      • cantcforest says:

        I wish it were so. Every time I go down this path I end up wondering how does PDJT get this message in front of enough people to believe to the core and are willing to march, with arms, to enforce the correct resolution.

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      • nimrodman says:

        Dar Adal –

        We need such a presentation BEFORE the election

        This story that Sundance lays out is known by us, who read here

        But it is thoroughly unknown by the rest of the voting public

        I’m watching Mark Levin on Fox laying out a bunch of details

        While he’s to be commended for his thoroughness, it takes intense concentration to stay with him, and I’m a brainy logical kinda guy, and even to me he comes across (superficially) as an old crank. Hey, appearances matter, it’s a fact.

        To the general public (even if they were able to see it – remember, he’s on Fox) –
        pfffffffttttttt

        He’s not an effective communicator to the general public

        Who else lays out the story in detail?
        Hannity
        – also not an effective communicator to the general public, and also on Fox

        Even just the part of the story that Sundance paints here today is unknown by the general public: spying before and after Admiral Rogers shutdown

        An effective communicator could tell it at the front of a room with 2 graphic sketches

        Before Adm. Rogers shutdown of NSA queries:

        Warrantless spying / surveillance
        NSA database ==> “Contractors” ==> “about” queries ==> Obama administration

        After Adm. Rogers shutdown of NSA queries:

        Fusion-GPS wife Mary Jacoby to White House ==>
        ==> DNC & Clinton campaign contract Fusion GPS
        ==> who then hire Christopher Steele.
        ==> FISA warrant on Page

        Warrantless spying / surveillance
        ==> Continued NSA queries
        ==> The “wrong Cohen” in Praque fiasco
        ==> run spies into Page, Papadopoulus (Mifsud, Halper, “Natashas”, etc)
        ==> handoff to Mueller
        ==> etc

        Don’t dog me on specifics, I’m just brainstorming

        At any rate, couple graphic charts with clunky blocks like computer tape drive labelled NSA Database, icon for White House, etc

        Arrows running left to right connecting the blocks with the actions and players above the connecting arrows

        And one of our most effective communicators giving the presentation – who was impressive in the impeachment hearings on the GOP side? Or a Jay Sekulow or a Tom Fitton or a female we might like

        All I’m saying is that some of this Spygate story needs to start being told now – in simple ways that the public can understand. The real partisans will still reject it, but the aim is to collar the more open-minded

        You need a physically attractive spokesperson and carefully constructed graphics – remember, print and online media (even TV) absolutely THRIVE on graphics – witness the virus task force briefings.

        Nothing that’ll interfere with Durham’s investigations; just the broad outlines

        Multiple presentations carving out parts of the overall story

        There are a couple media aids out there already that help paint the picture:

        “You don’t have to get a FISA court order?”
        “No, not here, XKEYSCORE’s under 702 authority, which means no warrants”

        “Ok, but – US targets – then you’d have to … get … the court order”
        “You mean FISA? Yeah … they’re just a big-ass rubber stamp, dude”

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        • Maquis says:

          Kayleigh Mercenary.

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        • twinkiethekid2 says:

          It’s all about sales 101. They have to start with a simple pitch that has a few topics that are easily understood by the general public. Obamagate comes to mind. You then add a few more, a few more, and should position it so people want to learn more. I suspect this plan has been ready and waiting for events like the Flynn reveals to kick it off. If I had to guess, there will be more and more damning revelations that the left of course will do their best to dismiss, but at some point, it’s going to crescendo to shock and awe level. Or maybe the nattering nabobs of negativism are right and no one is held accountable. Just watching some of the statements PT has made along with the first round reveals tells me it’s likely to get very entertaining, at least for a certain basement dweller.

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        • 28angelica28 says:

          “I’m watching Mark Levin on Fox laying out a bunch of details
          While he’s to be commended for his thoroughness, it takes intense concentration to stay with him, and I’m a brainy logical kinda guy, and even to me he comes across (superficially) as an old crank. Hey, appearances matter, it’s a fact.
          He’s not an effective communicator to the general public
          Who else lays out the story in detail?
          Hannity– also not an effective communicator to the general public, and also on Fox”

          Think Catherine Herridge. She NEVER gets out over her skis, she’s a thorough investigator, doesn’t depend on hearsay, articulate, intelligent, communicates well.

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  11. Putting On Its Shoes says:

    Transcript?

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  12. Bogeyfree says:

    Wine simple thing you could do Mr. President is ask Mr. Grenell to respond and provide the declassified documents Ty Clevenger is requesting. This would go a lone way in exposing the DNC Hack Fraud.

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  13. Dutchman says:

    And, are we to assume that with this massive abuse of the NSA database, for the purpose of Political Survellence, that the,Republican leadership in Congress were OBLIVIOUS?

    HOW would that be POSSIBLE? Enemy action eventually triggers a recognition and responce. If one of your candidates is “taken out” by a scandal, you chock it up to a mistake, or fate.

    But “Once,..? Happenstance.

    Twice,..? Coincidence.

    THIRD time,…Enemy action!”
    A valuable maxim in war, and politics.
    There is simply NO WAY that such a massive operation could have been inderway since at least 2012, without the Republican leadership becoming aware of it.

    And yet, we see NO attempt by Republican leadership to “blow the whistle”,…and in fact every time they had the opportunity to shut it down, during the various FISA renewals, they didn’t even want HEARINGS on it, and rejected any suggestions to modify it, or put in place additional safeguards.

    WHY?
    I submit the most logical explanation is because some of those un-named contractors were working for McConnell and the Congressional Republicon leadership.

    WHAT a valuable tool, for undermining the campaign of a primary challenger!

    Occams razor; the simplest answer, is usually correct. Obama wasn’t the only one exploiting this illegal access for political gain.

    Which is why Ryan did what he did, gifting the gavel to Nancy, so she could set up impeachment. And, why Mitch has done what he has done, which is everything he could, to undermine PDJT, without exposing himself, including NO public hearings on Obamagate, dictating PDJT’s cabinet, etc.

    And, if you look back at the timeline, Republican party figured out, early on, that they were NOT going to be able to prevent PDJT from getting the nomination. They tried all the standard tricks, but from the escalator ride on, he was leading,..and what he said when he came down the escalator was anti-thetical to what the RNC leadership was peddling.

    And so, it is my belief that just as McStain (with McConnells endorsement) approached Obama admin and asked/suggested that the IRS be used to illegally target Tea party,….

    McStain similarly carried the ORIGINAL IDEA for the Insurance policy to Obama admin.

    Congressional Republicons originated the idea, and so implicit in their ‘request’ (just as with IRS/Tea Party) was the ‘promise’ that if the,scheme was exposed, Congressional Republicans would work to cover it up, and insure no accountability,…BECAUSE they were complicit, themselves.

    Its the only explanation that explains their otherwise inexplicable behavior.ř

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    • Judith says:

      If Democrats and Republicans were all in on the coup together (and I’ve no doubt they were) that would explain the President’s reluctance to bring down the hammer of truth, at least until he can secure his second term in office. First, he couldn’t have accomplished anything of note the first few years if both sides were *openly* gunning for him. So he allowed them their *short-lived* victories (crossfire hurricane, Ukraine whistleblower) while he reset trade and foreign policy and choked off their funding sources.

      As long as these slimy Republican TRAITORS continue to seek “cover,” Trump can exert considerable leverage in their ongoing policy negotiations regarding trade and immigration.

      How can they *openly* ambush him prior to his re-election, with the Big Ugly dangling over their heads?

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      • Dutchman says:

        And, I THINK PDJT doesn’t have to OPENLY go against them.
        Just by outmanuevering them with Grennell, so that the info comes out into the ‘public domain’, and using a few surrogates to ask the question,
        Like Gaetz, Jordan,…and ‘retweeting’ OTHERS, all of whom are asking QUESTIONS, the Republicons are exposed.

        I personally think McConnell is fully capable of, and maybe intending to, gift the Senate to Schumer, as Ryan did to Nancy.

        But, as you say, DARE he, with all this coming out?

        You have ONE shot, to kill the King. Many have used this,quote to apply to the coup against PDJT, but I use it in reference to McConnell.

        Even before 2016, many said Mitch was the most powerful man in DC,…and it was well known “Don’t cross Mitch”.

        So, it makes sense that PDJT needed to get his ducks in a row, before truly taking on Mitch and his chorus of traitors.

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        • 28angelica28 says:

          If Mitch’s intent is to gift the Senate to Schumer, he must know that an entire country will be after him and his wife. There will be no escape in this country or in this lifetime. Maybe his pal Barry can hook him up in Iran! Elaine must become subservient to all men through. He would need to make these arrangements before election day. If Schumer takes the reins of the Senate or Trump is defeated, Mitch’s a$$ is grass and he’s living in a veritable lawnmower testing ground. Ball has bounced in your court Mitch. You can’t hide like a turtle. Your time will be up in November.

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          • Dutchman says:

            Yeah, look what happened to Ryan,…he got in board if Fox.

            As I see it, its mitchs only play, and I think team trumps latest efforts, are to put the spotlite on Mitch and Lindsey, to block it.
            When is the deadline, for registering for the Senate primary, in Kentucky?

            THAT is the key question. Wait until the last day to register, to prevent ‘spoilers’, or opposition operations, and then primary the bastards, basing the whole campaign on hilighting mitchs undermining of PDJT.

            SAME in S. Carolina, with Lindsey, and Texas with Cornyn.

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    • WhiteBoard says:

      I think they were terrfied… and just like lyndsey is terrified now, he doesnt even feel save supporting the President of the United States.

      this black mail operation must be accounted for with Death penalties through military tribunals.

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      • Dutchman says:

        What the most crave,….is POWER. To deprive them of that, while hardly enough, is certainly a good start.

        And yeah, Lindseys flop sweat is tangible, and I think of him as a barometer of Mitch,..
        Mitts not too happy,….either.
        Lol

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    • RedNeckJohnGalt says:

      Dutchman’s analysis nails many Rhino’s hides to the wall!

      Equally important though is the FACT that the Deep State – in the aggregate – routinely and illegally leverages the intelligence powers of the government to SPY on each other, their minions and regular citizens, resulting in a cache of blackmail materials ready for use on any politician, bureaucrat – or even regular citizen, remember Joe the Plumber? – who dares to step out of line. “Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime!” as they say.

      President Trump and Ric Grenell are clearly prepared to blow it all up. The Turtle and the rest of the Rhinos need to prepare accordingly. The Honey Badger, Ric Grenell just don’t care. I would be surprised if he produced just about everything Ty Clevinger aked for inhis May 7 letter.

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    • Bogeyfree says:

      Leverage has no bounds or border. It doesn’t matter if you are Democrat or Republican or Judge or CEO.

      FUTURE LEVERAGE must cover EVERYONE, that’s it purpose.

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    • guest4ever says:

      Dutch—BINGO!!! Winner, winner, chicken dinner!!!

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    • Jerry Joe says:

      And following his inauguration, one could expect that none of these politicians could stop, cold turkey, with their continued foreign sellout of our middle class. Makes one wonder what was discussed at the table during that infamous “Quiet Before the Storm” photo of POTUS and his military brass with Admiral Michael S. Rogers seated at its head.

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      • Dutchman says:

        No, as they would have percieved it, they “had no choice” but to carry on, full speed ahead.

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      • Joemama says:

        I don’t think there was much to discuss.

        It is my belief that military brass recruited PDJT to become president, so that they could execute their plan to take back the US government from what had become a shadow government. They didn’t think that a conventional military coup would have gone over very well, given the state of mind control of the public.

        But what do I know? I don’t have a Q level clearance.

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    • Del Parker says:

      Indeed, McConnell’s wife was the first Cab Appointee.

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      • Dutchman says:

        Friends close, enemies closer.
        “When they come at you Michael, it will be a “friend”; someone you trust, who will make the overture. THEY will guarantee your security,…and thats when they’ll hit you; on the way to da meeting,…

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    • Issy says:

      Dutchman – I do believe the republican leadership was involved. They knew he was going to disrupt their playhouse of various scams. They have never minded being in the minority. In some respects, it benefited them more.

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  14. arsumbris says:

    The abuses go back much further than 2012 — don’t forget that Brennan, Comey, Mueller et. al. were in government committing crimes long before we had Obama… makes me wonder if Obama was their “Manchurian Candidate” or not, whether they selected him and protected him with their media allies (since the media is essentially an extension of the intelligence agencies).

    They call it the Patriot Act because that’s what it’s meant to target, not what it’s meant to protect.

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    • “To Serve Man”

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    • iPack says:

      Obama’s brazen use and weaponization of the intelligence apparatus for political a.k.a. personal gains was bad, but only because he thought, and we allow him to think, that his status of the first African-American POTUS would protect him from scrutiny while in office and he would have collected enough data and information to prevent it from happening when he leaves after serving two terms.

      The abuse of surveillance and blackmail were going on decades before Obama’s accession to power.

      The only difference between now and then is the availability of digital technologies that allow the government agencies to collect live intelligence and compare, analyze, and store terabytes of raw/live data; it’s the ease and extent of surveillance that allowed Obama and the subversive elements inside the intelligence community do what he did.

      I guess what I’m getting at is Obama was not an evil genius or a brilliant Bond-type villain by any stretch of the imagination; he was just a combination of a motive (a constant) and opportunity (new).

      Now it’s on Trump to hold him and his allies accountable.

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    • Issy says:

      arsumbris – You have made an excellent assessment. No, it started long before Obama. I’m thinking Bush I with his globalization plans. The Patriot Act gave these people the keys to the kingdom, a way to gain total control over everyone who didn’t go along with their plans. I believe most of the elected politicians are just the puppets.

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      • arsumbris says:

        According to Bill Binney, the NSA whistle-blower who knew that the CrowdStrike conclusions were wrong back in 2017, these criminal domestic spying rings were setting up during the Clinton administration. Wouldn’t surprise me if it stretches back even to Bush 41.

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        • Issy says:

          arsumbus – thanks, I was trying to think of Binney’s name. I do think it began with Bush 41. He had been Amb to China & cia director, good primer positions.

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          • arsumbris says:

            I forgot Bush 41 was CIA. It’s all coming together now. This is why they took such risks to help Clinton win too. The Clintons were probably president when all this criminality was getting underway. All these “dynasties” kept in place by the deep state.

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  15. billybob says:

    Anybody arrested today?

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  16. As in the case of the Lord, when He punishes for something, He lays out exactly what was done, why it was done, and the consequences of the actions, and finally, the punishment is served.

    First, the case is built, documented, presented, then sentenced.

    We are in the case building phase right now, in terms of justice, and when everything is built and displayed, the sentence will be passed and the punishment delivered.

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  17. Nigella says:

    Does the President sound like he believes something will be done about all this?

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    • I am sure he hopes so. At a minimum we have Grenell and get some sunlight!

      My hope is that he appoints Sidney Powell to AG after landslide win in November and then we will see real justice.

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      • Bogeyfree says:

        I’m thinking the minute the Flynn case is officially dismissed, PT makes her WH Justice Czar to “help” ensure AG Barr, Wray and Durham are turning over all the necessary rocks of evidence.

        After all everyone needs a helping hand every now and then.

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      • guest4ever says:

        Trumplandslide—Oh Sidney Powell as AG, and General Flynn as Director of FBI would be SWEET!!!!

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  18. RJ says:

    Ok, we know who the players are and we also know most of them have been to our law schools so they know how to play the game of “catch me if you can!”

    Has anybody been caught? How long does this game take to play?

    If Trump loses this November, I guess that game will be called to the clock running out. If not, when will the bloodhounds working for Trump come home with any perps? How long do you intend to wait before you say…

    “All talk, no action!”

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  19. MACAULAY says:

    As usual, thank you for this, Sundance.

    I noticed you words: “…intelligence assets like Joseph Mifsud and Stefan Halper the IC (CIA, FBI).”

    There are two important differences between Halper and Mifsud. Halper is a known U.S. IC asset who, presumably, was put on the Trump Campaign AFTER the investigation was opened.

    But, Mifsud:

    1) Was claimed by the Deep State to be a Russian Operative. Mueller termed him, in a slight of hand which shows he was corrupt, as a “someone with contacts to Russia”…as anyone could have who ever even traveled there. There has been no acknowledgement by U.S., Italy, or U.K. that he was actually a Western Asset, or an assertion that he was Russian—though we KNOW he was not, he was a CIA/FBI Asset—all of which shows undoubtedly, Crime, Conspiracy and Cover-Up, because of No. 2 below.

    2) Mifsud, planted…planted—I say…the bogus information with Papadoulis, which STARTED THE WHOLE THING. If he was working for Western Intelligence…then the crime is clear–more than just entrapment, the beginning of the whole conspiracy to frame Trump—and it should be only a matter of drawing up the Indictments—-which should have taken three months, at most, and we are over three years.

    In short, why has not Mifsud been more clearly exposed by our Government, and why has not Fox, at least, done more to educate the Public that if Mifsud was working for the CIA or FBI— crimes were clearly committed and indictments must ensue?

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    • Bogeyfree says:

      And I would ask, we know Barr and Durham went to Italy and “gathered up” Mifsud’s phones.

      So where are those pieces of evidence.

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    • Not sure about Misfud? Ask PDJT to give Gina a call over at the CIA and tell her to bring ALL the documents including pay records she has on Misfiud………and to bring an undated letter of HER resignation in case its asked for. Give her 24 hours to respond.

      Who’s next?

      MAGA

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      • Beau Geste says:

        Plus the records on the current whereabouts of mifsud, including whether mifsud was ‘arkancided’ by the wicked witch of the west, or ‘wet worked’ by the cia?

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    • BitterC says:

      FWIW, Mifsud denied the Papa D story. George isn’t exactly mister truthful.

      Have run some transcripts vs his book & his version of things doesn’t always jibe.

      The one mtg he had w Trump….he says Sessions encouraged him to pursue Russia contacts and others in mtg say that his remarks about making Russian contacts were not well rec’d by Jeff.

      Another is his version of the Halper mtg in London. He claims to have stormed out and the transcript of the actual convo tells a whole nother story

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  20. As Slim Pickens once said, “what’ll that a*#hole think of next?”

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  21. As Slim Pickens once said, “what’ll that a*#hole think of next?”

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  22. MitchRyderDetroitWheels says:

    The Donald better have The Rook. He will need to play it to no win a hand but to end the game otherwise these people will destroy he and his family when his term is over. This is war. Not politics as usual. Like the Quick and The Dead…you have to kill your opponent. Not wound him.

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  23. Paul Gerst says:

    I have always thought it was Brennan’s old company, The Analysis Corporation. They pull they search from the NSA database (unredacted) courtesy of the illegal FBI access (so it looks like incidental FISA 7), TAC hands the intel (now stripped of any minimal NSA/FISA protections) off to Brennan, who in turn gives it to Schiff and Pelosi as part of an “”intel briefing (it now has a Top Secret cover of disclosure), then Pelosi and Schiff give it to the DNC through Wasserman-Schultz, and then onto Hillary. I bet there is quite a bit-o-felony on Wiener’s lap top and on Wasserman’s laptop that Imran Awan left behind. Explains why Brennan, Schiff, and Pelosi are so crazy to get Trump, they have enough felonies to keep their dead bodies locked away for a thousand years.

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  24. Bogeyfree says:

    Think about these two statements and time periods and then put them together……

    1) 2012-2016 – NSA Contractor Program – There were TENS-OF-THOUSANDS of unauthorized search queries; and as Judge Collyer stated in her report, there is no reason to believe the 85% non compliant rate was any different from the abuse of the NSA database going back to 2012.

    2) 2009-2012/13 – Hammer Program which was flipped from an Foreign Intelligence Tool to a Domestic Intelligence Tool to spy on Americans.

    “I produced 600 million pages. If you printed out each page it would be thirty miles high stacked one on top of another. The information is very sensitive information. They collected google searches, credit cards, phone records, images, pictures, anything and everything, and they did it for one reason: LEVERAGE. They didn’t know when, but they knew sooner or later they would need that information to use for those leverage against a person … The amount of information is mind-boggling, and I gave all of that to FBI Director Comey’s office.”

    So add these 2 periods of abuse together (Tens of Thousands & 600M pages) and IMO it sure seems MASSIVE!

    So yes, as PT said, they wanted to take down a sitting President as an insurance policy but was it really to hide these two periods of massive spying on Americans using the Hammer Program from 2009-2012 & then NSA Contractors from 2012-2016?

    All designed for FUTURE LEVERAGE according to a Registered WB.

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  25. swampfox999 says:

    I love this President. Please make sure he is reelected with Republican majorities in both Houses. Without the latter, he’ll have to be vetoing nearly every bill and changing the judiciary will be impossible. Without the former, it will be the end of the Republic.

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  26. swampfox999 says:

    I love this President. Please make sure he is reelected with Republican majorities in both Houses. Without the latter, he’ll have to be vetoing nearly every bill and changing the judiciary will be impossible. Without the former, it will be the end of the Republic.

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  27. disgusted citizen says:

    President Trump fully understands what they did then, are doing now, and will do to him and his wonderful family if he doesn’t take them down. He will take them down, he has no choice.

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  28. Dee Paul Deje says:

    POTUS Tweets are always vindicated.

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  29. carthoris says:

    I just don’t think “ObamaGate” is going to cut it. It’s like calling the Grand Canyon a gully. It should at least be ObamaMegaGate. Mega not to be confused with Maga, of course.

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  30. hokkoda says:

    If you were to assume Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone, this is the biggest political crime in this country since John Wilkes Booth, but still the highest levels of government.

    You can damn bet Trump is being kept well-informed.

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  31. deplorable says:

    The Trump campaign was spied on, the Cruz campaign was spied on, the Rubio campaign was spied on. All front runner GOP campaigns were spied on.

    On the other side of the aisle, the Bernie campaign was spied on.

    The only campaign NOT spied on was the Clinton campaign.

    I wonder who was doing the spying…

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  32. fangdog says:

    How in the World can anyone with half a brain think Trump will not win the election? It would take massive fraud for Trump not to win. The fact the crooks think they may have a chance illustrates their dysfunctional illusion.

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    • palafox says:

      Not an unreasonable concern. Look at what lengths the left has gone to persecute both the President and Flynn (and Stone, Manafort, etc.). And let’s not forget what they are doing to the economy and to literally tens of millions of Americans. Do you see some line of action that dems would not cross?

      I think another concern is whether or not the senate can stay republican. Dems don’t need to worry about Trump winning the presidency if they can hold the house (more easily done by fraud) and steal a few extra seats in the senate. They then can have Trump (and Pence if needed) removed via impeachment. At worst (from dem perspective) removing Trump gets them a Uniparty R president. At best it gets them whatever candidate they might choose by installation, without even the need for an election.

      I agree that in a legitimate election nowhere near enough people would vote for a dem candidate. But there are always other factors at play.

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      • Issy says:

        palafox – Yes, unfortunately, we have to keep the jerks in the senate.

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        • jebg46 says:

          Yes there are way too many jerks in the Senate and it makes me vomit to have to vote all Republicans in one more time but after this election President Trump can begin to expose them all. So what if it forces many to resign, we’ll just have lots of special elections to put true patriots in the House and Senate. We must save our Republic for kids, grandkids , great-grandkids. We must keep America a Republic.

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          • Issy says:

            It will be my last time to vote for them unless they change their ways, so it will probably be my last time to vote. 🙂 If someone is in the primary against an incumbent senator, I will vote for them.

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  33. Geoff says:

    Obamagate can be exposed once and for all very simply.

    For sure and certain the well-practised Obama administration would have spied on Bernie Sander’s campaign. Let’s face it, get the nomination and Hilary and the DNC thought the Presidential election would be a cakewalk – they certainly acted like it would be.

    Go looking in the right place and find that Obama spied on Bernie for HRC and see if the MSM will forgo reporting that “can of worms”!

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  34. bessie2003 says:

    In the interview, when the President began to say ‘and his brother was supposed to be arrested’ or something to that effect and Ms. Bartoromo interrupted to ask the point she wanted the President to address,

    what that ‘brother’ John Podesta’s brother Tony? Was the President referencing when Paul Manafort was arrested wasn’t his previous partner, the one involved in Ukraine, Tony Podesta, as the President referenced Hillary Clinton’s campaign manager (John Podesta) in his comment before he was interrupted?

    If so, that sounds like another shoe about to drop for the treasonous coup folks.

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    • Issy says:

      bessie2003 – Yes, Tony Podesta was Manafort’s partner. It was said he was given immunity by Mueller (Weissman) team. I listened to most of that interview this morning. I missed that.

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  35. Issy says:

    Crowdstrike and Fusion GPS are at the top of my list of “contractors” disseminating information, but I don’t know if we have a clue about who & how many there are. There’s no telling how many benefited for classified information of all kinds, not just political.

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  36. Patience says:

    Oh, how I pray…..

    to witness
    that snide, arrogant, self-important, fake, bamboozling, hoodwinking.. creep’s
    smirk
    > being wiped away

    by the evidence made totally public..

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  37. Bogeyfree says:

    So here is a new interpretation on how they got the Kislyak call that is different from Bongino and Sundance and the author references both of their suppositions.

    It makes sense and he uses transcript info to help validate his points.

    https://meaninginhistory.blogspot.com/2020/05/minimization-tech-cuts-unmasking-guide.html?m=1

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    • Beau says:

      Thanks for the link, Bogey.

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    • GB Bari says:

      Interesting theory. The author (Mark Wauck?) explains “tech cut” well, especially in his linked article.

      It does make a lot of sense – that they simply captured Flynn’s convo with Kislyak via the FISA on Kislyak…and Flynn’s name was never minimized in the transcript or summary prepared from the transcript. Since Flynn’s name was never minimized (masked or redacted), there was never a need to ‘”unmask” it, thus no record of “unmasking request”.

      This would appear to negate Bongino’s, Sundance’s , and McCarthy’s conclusions.

      The one area I have a bit of a problem with is where Wauck brushes off Sundance’s pen register theory, by citing McCabe’s 12/19/2017 HPSCI testimony in which McCabe mentioned “the Agency, who I think had the pen on that response,” where Wauck attributes that comment from McCabe in a context that I’m not certain is entirely accurate. If Wauck is wrong re. the context of McCabes remark, then Sundance’s theory of a pen register on Flynn’s phone may be correct.

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      • BitterC says:

        I totally agree with Wauck and posted the same thing he is saying back on that thread.
        In either their texts or emails, they are working on some answer for D or the WH & Strzok volunteers to “take the pen”. It’s their lingo. Sundance is entitled to a mistake now and then.

        I still want to know why NO ONE is even mentioning the Page FISA in regards to the Kislyak call. I would tend to think Kislyak was not in the DC Embassy over the holidays. Andy McCarthy says he can find no mention of where Kislyak was in any new articles

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        • GB Bari says:

          Not sure what the Page FISA has to do with a FISA to monitor a Russian (or any adversarial foreign country’s) ambassador.

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  38. Roddy Pine says:

    I am tired – of this – truly i want to see indictments and arrest anything else is just the same shite of 2 years over and over and over.

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  39. fuzzball010 says:

    Not only have we caught them, we’ve exposed the media as complicit in the crimes. They were diverting attention away from what was happening. The media were focusing upon Trump as a traitor in order to keep all eyes away from who the real traitors were and are.
    This is colossal. Hopefully, it will not only lead to the conviction of Obama and the Clintons, but extend also to a strident outing of anti-Americanism in the media and throughout the national spirit from the Fed all the way down to the municipal level in every state.
    We must hang Obama. We don’t have an option. We must show the world that America is not what has been perpetrated upon our current president. We must. And if Washington won’t hear of it, we must prevail upon Washington. It is incumbent upon us, for the sake of our children and our children’s children.

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  40. GTOGUY says:

    Durham started investigating the leaks back in 2018. We learned this from a deposition when James A Baker told Jim Jordan that he was under investigation from Durham. This ain’t over by a longshot.

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  41. Bryan Alexander says:

    I still can’t accept that any of this was “authorized”, i.e “legal”.

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  42. Mickey Wasp says:

    President Trump has orchestrated the presentation of the exposure of the perpetrators perfectly.

    Think … Everyone was calling this coup “Spygate” – then President Trump tweeted “OBAMAGATE” and guess who comes out of his basement and starts making statements … Only the bit dog hollers. Much like the underlings previously.

    Think about the beginning – Brennan, Clapper, Holder, Comey, Lynch, Yates, Johnson, Rice, McCabe, Panetta, Podesta, of course Hillary and many others tweeting, doing interviews, writing op-eds, panels at conferences, etc. Watch who continues and who goes quite.

    What I find curious – is through all of this media driven madness and dis-information campaign – apply the Mamet Principle here – where has Ashton “Ash” Carter been? Ash Carter, Sec of Defense – and was in agreement with Brennan and Clapper that Adm Mike Rogers should be removed from office. Now apply Occam Razor – why is he the only leading Obama Admin cabinet member, that has not been on talk shows, done interviews, played a pundit on a Sunday show, wrote an op-ed or memoir?

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