The IG Report Will Release December 9th, But What About The “Declassification List”?…

There has been a great deal of discussion about the pending release of the DOJ Inspector General report on potential FISA abuses on December 9th, but no word on the declassification material since AG Bill Barr was granted authority on May 23rd, 2019.

Amid the twists and turns many people have forgotten about the material congress asked President Trump to declassify a year-and-a-half ago.  Additionally there has been some material cited that just seemingly slipped away without follow-up.  Consider:

  • Whatever happened to the forty pages of Lisa Page and Andrew McCabe text messages that Catherine Herridge noted nine months ago?  Herridge only published four of the pages in March 2019.
  • Why are the Lisa Page and Peter Strzok text messages still redacted two years after their original release (December 1st, 2017)?
  • Where’s the release of the Susan Rice inauguration day memo to the file?
  • Why didn’t the DOJ/FBI release all of the Bruce Ohr 302’s without redaction?  Will those fully unredacted 302’s be part of the IG report release?
  • Where’s the unredacted David Archey FBI declarations that were previously ordered to be released by a DC judge?
  • The Mueller investigation ended 9 months ago.  Why are we still not able to see the  unredacted three authorization memos that Rosenstein gave to the special counsel on May 17th, August 2nd and October 20th, 2017?

Those simple questions (and releases) are in addition to the original list that congress provided to President Trump back in the summer of 2018.  A declassification list that DAG Rod Rosenstein asked President Trump not to release until after the Mueller investigation. Again, the Mueller investigation ended nine months ago; President Trump authorized AG Bill Barr to declassify the material six months ago on May 23rd.

This was the original list from congress in the summer of 2018:

  • All versions of the Carter Page FISA applications (DOJ) (FBI) (ODNI).
  • All of the Bruce Ohr 302’s filled out by the FBI. (FBI) (ODNI) [Without redactions]
  • All of Bruce Ohr’s emails (FBI) (DOJ) (CIA) (ODNI). All supportive documents and material provided by Bruce Ohr to the FBI. (FBI) [Without redactions]
  • All relevant documents pertaining to the supportive material within the FISA application. (FBI) (DOJ-NSD ) (DoS) (CIA) (DNI) (NSA) (ODNI);
  • All intelligence documents that were presented to the Gang of Eight in 2016 that pertain to the FISA application used against U.S. person Carter Page; including all intelligence documents that may not have been presented to the FISA Court. (CIA) (FBI) (DOJ) (ODNI) (DoS) (NSA)  Presumably this would include the recently revealed State Dept Kavalac email; and the FBI transcripts from wiretaps of George Papadopoulos (also listed in Carter Page FISA). [AKA ‘Bucket Five’]
  • All unredacted text messages and email content between Lisa Page and Peter Strzok on all devices. (FBI) (DOJ) (DOJ-NSD) (ODNI)
  • The originating CIA “EC” or two-page electronic communication from former CIA Director John Brennan to FBI Director James Comey that started Operation Crossfire Hurricane in July 2016. (CIA) (FBI) (ODNI)

Additionally, since the 2018 list was developed, more information surfaced about the underlying material.  This added to the possibility of documents for declassification:

♦ The August 2nd, 2017, two-page scope memo provided by DAG Rod Rosenstein to special counsel Robert Mueller to expand the fraudulent Trump investigation, and initiate the more purposeful obstruction of justice investigation. Also the October 20th, 2017, third scope memo that expanded the investigation again, and targeted additional people including Michael Flynn’s family. The Scope Memos are keys to unlocking the underlying spy/surveillance cover-up. [SEE HERE and SEE HERE]

♦ The July 31st, 2016, Crossfire Hurricane counterintelligence operation originated from a scheme within the intelligence apparatus.  The CIA operation  created the originating “Electronic Communication” memo. Declassify that two-page “EC” document that Brennan gave to Comey.  [The trail is found within the Weissmann report and the use of Alexander Downer – SEE HERE]

♦ Release and declassify all of the Comey memos that document the investigative steps taken by the FBI as an outcome of the operation coordinated by CIA Director John Brennan in early 2016.  [The trail was memorialized by James Comey – SEE HERE]  Release and declassify the declarations of FBI Agent David Archey that describe the purpose of the Comey memos:

♦ Reveal the November 2015 through April 2016 FISA-702 search query abuse by declassifying the April 2017 court opinion written by FISC Presiding Judge Rosemary Collyer. Show the FBI contractors behind the 85% fraudulent search queries. [Crowdstrike? Fusion-GPS? Nellie Ohr? Daniel Richman?]  This was a weaponized surveillance and domestic political spying operation. [The trail was laid down in specific detail by Judge Collyer – SEE HERE]

♦ Did anyone question former DOJ-NSD (National Security Division) head John Carlin, and get his testimony about why he hid the abuse from the FISA court in October 2016; why the DOJ-NSD rushed the Carter Page application to beat NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers to the FISA court; and why did John Carlin quit immediately thereafter?

♦ The Carter Page FISA application (October 2016) was fraudulent, and likely based on deceptions to the FISA Court. Declassify the entire document, and release the transcripts of those who signed the application(s); and/or depose those who have not yet testified. The creation of the Steele Dossier was the cover-up operation. [SEE HERE]  What version of the FISA application will be released (if at all)?

♦ Release all of the Lisa Page and Peter Strzok text messages without redactions. Let sunlight pour in on the actual conversation(s) that were taking place when Crossfire Hurricane (July ’16) and the FISA Application (Oct ’16) were taking place.  The current redactions were made by the people who weaponized the intelligence system for political surveillance and spy operation.  This is likely why Page and Strzok texts were redacted!

♦ Release all of Bruce Ohr 302’s without redactions.  And FBI notes from interviews and debriefing sessions, and other relevant documents associated with the interviews of Bruce Ohr and his internal communications. Including exculpatory evidence that Bruce Ohr may have shared with FBI Agent Joseph Pientka. [And did anyone get a deposition from this Pientka fella?] Bruce Ohr is the courier, carrying information from those outside to those on the inside.

Yes it is good the FISA investigation report is going to be released on December 9th, but if all of the underlying documents are not declassified there is a risk the information therein is subject to interpretation and/or manipulation.

There is a lot of material the public is aware of; and if the DOJ IG doesn’t release the underlying material then what exactly was the purpose of AG Bill Barr asking President Trump for the declassification authority?….. Accountability requires transparency.

There is no more tongue left to bite.

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429 Responses to The IG Report Will Release December 9th, But What About The “Declassification List”?…

  1. I suspect that one reason to delay or exclude redaction is that these materials are criminal evidence. If “the Court of Public Opinion” can read everything and from them draw their own conclusions, then “an unbiased jury cannot be convened.” Many a Chicago Mob boss escaped prosecution because “everybody reads the Tribune.” A Grand Jury’s indictment should spring from things that no one else now knows.

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    • redthunder238 says:

      Moderated. Reread guidelines on comments. ~ Admin.

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      • Peoria Jones says:

        Are you a moderator or administrator?

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        • ILOT says:

          I have no idea what Red is and won’t speculate. I’m certain he / she has an answer to two questions nagging at me – for the purveyors of negativity:
          1. It was reported by The Hill on May 1 that Nellie Ohr was referred for Criminal Charges, is that correct?
          2. What is the status of that case, SPECIFICALLY?

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      • I don’t see any moderation and neither do I see any issue with the forum guidelines here. I am extremely mindful of the expectations of any such forum and always strive to abide by them – and believe that I do.

        Bill Barr was delegated specific declassification authority for a specific purpose – to further his law-enforcement objectives. Although “of course we would like to read it all,” it’s far, far more powerful if used as evidence – and therefore according to the Federal rules of evidence.

        We know in advance that criminal prosecutions will be battled by the most-expensive defense attorneys on this planet, and we can easily anticipate three objections, all based on mishandling of evidence:

        (1) The evidence presented, to the Grand Jury and to the Court, is not credible.

        (2) The Grand Jury was biased, and did not base their indictments solely upon the evidence presented to them.

        (3) It is not possible for a Jury to be convened who is capable of presuming that the defendants are innocent, because “everybody knows (s)he’s guilty.”

        Since classified information will be critical evidence, it’s also critical that only the Grand Jury has seen the classified parts. Barr has been granted the singular authority to do this, relieving the jurors of the obligation to hold high security clearances.

        “We’ve got only one shot at this …”

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    • Zippy says:

      “I suspect that one reason to delay or exclude redaction is that these materials are criminal evidence. If “the Court of Public Opinion” can read everything and from them draw their own conclusions, then “an unbiased jury cannot be convened.”

      Any jury (keep dreaming) will absolutely be required to see that evidence anyway.

      Cover-up, the historical status quo for large government bureaucracies. The 9/11 families had to fight tooth and nail to get an investigation of the government’s MASSIVE 9/11 screw-up in not catching it in advance and still didn’t get even close to what they wanted. And THAT was with the entire US citizenry 100% on their side. What can be expected with this incredibly complex scandal where perhaps 1% of the people in this country understand it to the level required to know that it was the greatest political scandal in US history?

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      • johneb18 says:

        I do wonder about our numbers. We need to take out a full page ad in the NYSlimes and post sundance’s ENTIRE ARTICLE. It needs to get to more eyes regardless.

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        • muckeyduck says:

          German general, Hans von Seekt – The Essential Thing is the Deed. Not the idea, not the desire, not the intention — the deed.

          That is a worthy idea, but ideas that are not carried to action are worthless.

          How would you propose that we do this. Why don’t you ask Sundance if he can setup a gofundme effort that all his readers could contribute to to make your idea happen.

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          • johneb18 says:

            Looks like it is between $100-150K. I’m hoping a wealthy benefactor is around here and says, hey, yeah, that’s a good idea… 😉

            But I’d pitch in for that!

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      • The Jury, like the Grand Jury, will be entitled to see the materials because they have been declassified and presented to them. This might occur in closed chambers. Mr. Barr has absolute discretion as to whom he presents the materials to, and to whom he does not. But these will include things that have not heretofore been made known to the general public: unimpeachable evidence that has had no opportunity to further sway public opinion or public prejudice.

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    • Franz Dorn says:

      Knowlege does not create bias. Mark Twain in ROUGHING IT, Chapter 2, beautifully critiques this mistaken notion.

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    • Franz Dorn says:

      Knowlege does not create bias. Mark Twain in ROUGHING IT, Chapter 2, beautifully critiques this mistaken notion.

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    • dollops says:

      No wonder the people agree with the sentiment “The law is an (Democrat)”. The notion that jurors may hear only what the court wants them to hear goes directly against the principle of judgement by ones peers. Assuming “peers” to mean the common people and NOT a segment of society that identifies with the accused, nor an elite then any interference in what the people may hear is depriving both the accused and the people of “judgement by peers”. Jury selection is another abuse of the “peers” ideal; random call-up would fit better, and because people are seldom unanimous about any decision, a super majority or some high percentage of votes should decide in all but death penalty cases.

      Too much of the people’s justice system has been usurped by lawyers (including judges) who needlessly complicate – and thereby reserve to themselves – the administration of justice.

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      • Shyster says:

        Really, do you think a jury in a rape trial should hear about how promiscuous the victim previously had been before being forcibly raped or how many times she had an abortion or how many STDs she had previously contracted or possibly prior bouts of depression with medication having been prescribed? Because that’s what it would be under the rules your advocating for. Or how about a prosecutor telling a jury you were asked to explain your innocence on every element of the crime and that you refused to speak out on your own innocence and instead took the 5th. There are age old reasons justice excludes non relevant or arguably relevant jury inflaming evidence at trial, and it’s called fairness and logic recognized over hundreds of years of the evolution of justice.

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        • dollops says:

          Yours is a totally specious argument. We all make judgments all day every day knowing as much or as little about the issues in question as is available to us. Are you so distrustful of peers that you actually believe they can’t handle reality? It is arrogance far beyond mere elitism to suppose that someone of your station must guide jurors to the “correct” decisions. Sheesh!

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    • Sugarhillhardrock says:

      Mike,
      I suspect that is a lot of the reason behind not releasing so far. This is a very multi leveled and complex investigation involving foreign governments, diplomats, human assets, foreign corporations, and the guts of the US justice establishment, likely including judges.

      Like Sundance, I am furious this has taken so long, but it will be worth the wait if AG Barr has decided to act like General Maximus, and restore the republic by reestablishing the rule of law.

      I continue to think that is what is going on because PDJT is President and after the Sessions disaster he has found his man.

      If I’m wrong….it will mean problems have to be solved another way.

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      • TPW says:

        He has found his man? No he had to chose a man acceptable to the Senate for approval………Or a man was chosen by the Senate leaders……either way not good.

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        • We will not know if “Durham has found his (wo)man,” until the day in which the indictments are unsealed. The rules of procedure up to that point mandate absolute secrecy. Grand Juries meet in secret and their deliberations – except the actual text of the indictments they hand down, should there be any – are secret. (In every case, everywhere. Even in your home town.)

          If someone is considered for prosecution but the Grand Jury declines to indict, we will never know the identity of that person. This is the law.

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  2. Bubby says:

    I tweeted a copy of this blog of Sundance to President Trump. I don’t think he’ll ever see it but it made me feel better. I wish there was a White House petition using Sundance’s “Declassification LIst” that I could sign. But I don’t know how to get one started. I’m sure we could get more than the 100,000 signatures to get some Administration attention to the issue!

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  3. MitchRyderDetroitWheels says:

    When I read a tweet from The Don calling out Barr then you will know which team Barr actually plays for. I will say the same about and future comments about Wray. It is my hope that Barr/Trump have flipped someone that was actually part of the scheme(coup). When Trump tells us He caught them all then I guess I am stupid enough to believe him for the MSM will kill him with that comment leading up to the election if he doesn’t actually hold the Rook. We’ll see.

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    • Bubby says:

      Does that “all” include obama? That’s what I want to know. It’s very telling that obama is really the first President to reside in Washington DC after office other than Wilson who had a stoke! To me he is the one running the deep state to this very day!

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      • hokkoda says:

        Trump said on Fox and Friends before thanksgiving that the goes “all the way to the top”. I sincerely double they’ll implicate Obama, but if they roll up senior cabinet officials like Rice, Brennan, Comey, etc., that’s like repealing Obamacare…total repudiation of Obama and his legacy. Like Clinton’s exile, that might be the beat we can get, and it’ll be enough.

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        • Helen Pearson Souza says:

          I can say for myself, if the highest they go is Clinesmith, I will be livid. It is to Trump’s credit that we are even aware of this vast corruption in our government. It is vast and the correction must be also. Heads must roll and not minor underlings. The future of our republic rests on doing as SD has said. Give us all the information. We are pretty angry at the little we know. But these nameless, faceless, unelected bureaucrats must be banished.

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          • TPW says:

            Banished? Easy enough…. just get rid of the useless parts of government…..and if the Dems won’t allow it ….move all the guilty to obscure parts of the country.

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          • Y’all Know What Time It is says:

            If Clinesmith was threatened with time in real prison he might be forthcoming about who ordered him to alter evidence.

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      • Ken Lawson says:

        Bubby – If you think Obama is running much of anything then you are sorely mistaken. He was never in charge, he was/is a puppet. He was given orders to follow. Most likely the reason he demanded that he have his Blackberry was so that instructions could be given to him no matter where he was. High chance that they came from the globalists such as Soros through Valerie Jarrett to him. But I think it’s giving him far too much credit to say he was or is in charge.

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    • Amy2 says:

      The president called Wray out back in May on Twitter.

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  4. Julian says:

    I would argue for a little patience.

    I think the sentencing of Roger Stone and the extradition of Julian Assange (both in February) with two pardons lined up by President Trump to protect those who helped him get elected would play into a timeline for declassification superbly.

    In addition, who’s to say Durham might not start issuing indictments once Winter is over?

    February would seem to be the time to hit the GO button on all this.

    Of course, February is only 2-3 months away now.

    Not long to wait folks!

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    • swal106 says:

      I wish Julian, I had your confidence. I just can’t muster it up now.

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    • redthunder238 says:

      Neither Barr or Durham is on team Trump. That’s clear as day. Just wait a little longer. Yeah F that. We’ve been waiting for YEARS and nothing has happened. It’s so obvious they’re running out the clock. How can some of you not see that?

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      • Super Elite Lt. Col. Covfefe999 says:

        But it’s not “clear as day”. I personally think some of you are too impatient, and I also think some of you are engaging in armchair AG-ing which is always so easy you know when you’re not the person in the middle of the fray.

        Do you trust President Trump? If so, then pay attention to MitchRuder’s comment above: “When I read a tweet from The Don calling out Barr then you will know which team Barr actually plays for.” Trump is not powerless here. Trump can release any documents he wishes to release. Trump can criticize Barr. But he has done none of this. Why? I’m going to assume it’s because Trump thinks, or knows, that Barr is going to do the right thing. And I have no evidence that Barr isn’t doing the right thing.

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        • TPW says:

          It has been said by others close to PT that he always praises when he has high expectations…..go back and read his tweets that include Barr……he is overly complimentary……is that a word? LOL but you get the jest. Just like he does with Xi….even though he probably thinks of him as a tyrant.

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      • TPW says:

        I agree and I see that as well……only hope I am holding onto is President Trump and his desire to preserve the hard fought changes he is making, the safety of his family, and finally his need for payback.

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      • Amy2 says:

        Lots of thunder red but not much else. If you knew all the facts years ago, you must be psychic, many of them are still being discovered. Barr has been with us since the spring. For the most part, he has a good rep. This is also a VERY complicated undertaking, and there’s only one shot at it. You’re tired of waiting. Okay. What are you going to do about it? Shout at the rest of us who aren’t?

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    • Zippy says:

      “I would argue for a little patience.”

      Day 1044 of the so-called Trump administration and not a single SpyGate perp even so much as indicted? The slow-walked McCabe investigation that Judicial Watch said should have only taken a few months, but took nearly a year was released two months ago. Where’s that indictment for significant lies made while Roger Stone has already been quickly tried and sentenced to 20 years for inconsequential lies (brags) made to inveterate liars and SpyGate perps?

      Sorry, patience up.

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      • Super Elite Lt. Col. Covfefe999 says:

        But it’s not Day 1044 of Barr being the AG and Durham being appointed to investigate the traitors. What’s your hurry? Are you frustrated? I am too, but I’m not allowing my frustration to dictate a particular timeline for Barr or Durham. I want them to do a thorough investigation. They’re the ones doing all of the work. I’m going to respect that.

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        • Sugarhillhardrock says:

          Thank you, Super Elite.
          I share the frustration, but we have PDJT and he is not going to let this get rug swept.

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        • Ken Lawson says:

          The other factor, Super Elite, that people don’t seem to understand is how VERY slowly the justice system works. The investigations and building the case take a very long time to do correctly. While I’m as impatient as the next person, I also know that when it comes to legal actions the person who moves fast usually loses. And another point is that POTUS would want things to hit at just the right time to do maximum damage to the Democrats chances in the 2020 election. For that to happen it has to be a while before much can happen because anything that happens too early loses the attention and is pushed off the front page. POTUS is an expert at timing and while I think that the delays could be due to building a good case, I also think that the timing for the election is critical. POTUS can’t trust us, the voters, to vote enough people out of office quickly enough, so his timing of this entire situation could do far more damage to the Democrats and Never-Trumpers in the election than what the voters will do.

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          • Zippy says:

            “people don’t seem to understand is how VERY slowly the justice system works”

            “Worked” fast enough for Roger Stone and all of the other people prosecuted by Mueller for everything BUT the original scope of his “investigation.”

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            • rvsueandcrew says:

              We don’t have the luxury of working fast because we have to do things right.

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              • Zippy says:

                Oh, PLEASE. Stop giving excuses. When things are actually PRIORITIZED, even huge government bureaucracies CAN actually do things quickly. Problem is, when it comes to defending Trump, they aren’t.

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                • rvsueandcrew says:

                  Zippy…. You’re frustrated, hence the “oh, PLEASE” and calling my opinion an excuse.

                  It’s not my job to address your complaints so carry on without me.

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                • map says:

                  Zippy,

                  I am supremely confident in the President for the following, simple reason:

                  The Mueller Report failing.

                  Do you understand how significant this is? This is a years long investigation costing tens of millions of dollars, led by the Deep State, championed by the media, with an entire government complex declaring how…any day now…Trump is going down.

                  And…it…failed.

                  It failed so spectacularly that its lead investigator…Bob Mueller…touted as the rock-ribbed, Republican, no-nonsense, decorated, cut-of-the-jib Marine hero-veteran…was reduced to looking like a dottering old fool in front of the entire country under a Congressional hearing.
                  Even Sundance, with all of his credible analysis on Lawfare strategy, could not predict that Mueller would fail (though I did.)

                  This is not a result of luck or divine providence. This a massive counter-operation being run by Trump and others with real teeth and real firepower. Forget about using your own thinking of what you would do. Notice how worried the various players are. Joe Biden has been reduced to talking about “Corn Pop” and kids rubbing their hands up and down his wet legs. Lisa Page thinks she’s a victim. Schiff looks like he is on meth. Pelosi looks drug-addled. Meanwhile, Trump and Barr and these other guys look supremely confident and well-rested…like nothing bothers them.

                  Bottom line is, that whatever entity is running this has decided that it does not need the current crop of politicians and it is clearing the field for a new batch.

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        • Zippy says:

          “But it’s not Day 1044 of Barr being the AG and Durham being appointed to investigate the traitors.”

          Day 60 since the results of the slow-walked McCabe investigation that Judicial Watch said should have taken just a few months that instead took nearly a year and no indictment decision yet? Even a judge is griping about it and that was a few weeks ago:

          Judge angry with DOJ delays in McCabe prosecution decision: ‘This is not a hard case!’
          November 14, 2019

          https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/judge-angry-with-dojs-delays-in-mccabe-prosecution-decision-this-is-not-a-hard-case

          The Justice Department’s continued delays in making a decision about whether or not it will charge fired FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe with any crimes related to allegations that he misled investigators frustrated the federal judge overseeing a freedom of information lawsuit.

          “I don’t care what y’all do with McCabe,” Judge Reggie Walton said from the bench in the District Court for the District of Columbia on Thursday afternoon. “But this is not a hard case!”

          “Deciding whether you’re going to charge someone with false statements is not a hard case … not factually, not legally, but maybe politically,” he said.

          ———

          That example PLUS all of the yet to be seen (probably never to be seen) documents SD listed above (along with how many more he didn’t list) PLUS past government performance during scandals smells like only one thing to me: foot-dragging, obfuscating, cover-up/whitewash.

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    • astro31 says:

      We have been waiting for more than 2 years, while the guilty walk free. Justice delayed is justice denied. Justice denied is no justice at all.

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      • Super Elite Lt. Col. Covfefe999 says:

        You can chalk up most of that 2+ years on Trump’s mistake appointing Jeff Sessions as the AG. Barr became AG early this year. He started the investigation of the traitors. Give him some time. What’s your hurry?

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        • Raquel says:

          I keep thinking of my husband when I see there conversations. He worked for the Army as a civilian employee. One time he had to investigate a simple traffic accident on base. It took months, maybe six, to investigate. “Why?” I asked him. Because people delay, don’t respond, are on vacation, withhold information, etc. He often had to reach out to his branch chief for more muscle. With the government, certain procedures have to be followed and applied, and paperwork done, making the job more complex. In short, people, this is the government we’re talking about and things just take longer.

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        • Zippy says:

          “What’s your hurry?”

          If there’d been more of a “hurry,” some of the key players in the current impeachment hoax would now be called DEFENDANTS and would be too otherwise occupied to play that Mueller farce follow-on game. THAT’S my hurry.

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          • Super Elite Lt. Col. Covfefe999 says:

            The wasted time is due to Sessions being the AG for more than 2 years. If Barr had been the AG from the beginning we wouldn’t have even had the Mueller witch hunt and probably some of the traitors would have been convicted by now..

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    • T-Bone says:

      We’re going to need a plan b soon.

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      • Super Elite Lt. Col. Covfefe999 says:

        Your personal timeline is not Barr’s. There’s no need to hurry. The 2020 election is 11 months away.

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  5. swal106 says:

    Of course I’m not a Congressman, but if I were, and was one of those Congressmen that sat on the Committee that had privy to those reports, I would go to the President, the AG, and the FBI Director and I’d tell them point blank. This information either comes to light, or I will release it myself. We’ve waited long enough. We haven’t heard one thing, with the exception of a few leaks here and there, and yet, NOT ONE indictment of the Coup Leaders. Heck, as a matter of fact, even though the President ordered it done, Brennans Security Clearance to my knowledge, has STILL NOT been revoked. WHY is that? And WHO has that authority that out ranks the President on that?

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    • Zippy says:

      “This information either comes to light, or I will release it myself.”

      “Oh, really? Wait ’till you see what we have (or can fabricate) and leak ‘from official sources’ about YOU!”

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    • bentley1blog says:

      Excellent questions Swal. Why, why, why. Reading through today’s information I have noticed an awful lot of impatience and differing views with each other. Seems our patience is wearing out with all the anticipation and waiting for justice to occur.

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    • Jim in TN says:

      A big problem we face, as made clear in the Schiff hearings, is that so many mid level bureaucrats think that they do have more authority than and think that they do outrank a duly elected President.

      CIA, DOJ, FBI, DOD and STATE have all demonstrated this unconstitutional and illegal behavior.

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      • Sharon says:

        “…many mid level bureaucrats think that they do have more authority than and think that they do outrank a duly elected President.”

        The bureaucrats have been running the country, by and large, for a long time.

        I keep listening for someone with the authority and willingness to do a scorched-earth, barn-cleaning of government infrastructure.

        Their boldness is driven by their experience: they often do have more authority in a given situation than the President. It’s not legitimate authority, obviously. It is practical and real authority, in that they do what they have decided to do – and it stands.

        That whole situation is nothing new. Not at all.

        The Republic hangs by a thread. But the underlying rot is nothing new.

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        • jeans2nd says:

          Wise words, Sharon, thank you. Your words are reinforced by two truths – Congress has delegated much of their legislating authority to the Bureaucrats in the Executive Branch, and SCOTUS has ruled that the Bureaucracy has primacy by bureaucratic regulations delegated to them by Congress.

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    • Super Elite Lt. Col. Covfefe999 says:

      even though the President ordered it done, Brennans Security Clearance to my knowledge, has STILL NOT been revoked

      To your knowledge? Well, maybe it has been revoked and you’re not just not aware of it. What evidence do you have that it wasn’t revoked?

      I wouldn’t use something that you aren’t sure of as evidence of anything, or as a reason to be angry.

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  6. Leave it to Sundance to throw six gallons of gasoline on a “smoldering pile of dissatisfaction” late on a Saturday night! I find it amazing that about 150 Treepers, Branch Hangers, and Bark Clingers can express such differences of opinions without criticizing each other – a testament to the quality of the people in TCTH.

    Many of the commentators have convincing yet opposing arguments. cbjoasurfg made a statement above which I tend to agree with: “ANY document released that could have a NEGATIVE affect on a “Criminal Prosecution” should NOT be released until the prosecution of an individual involved is complete.”

    As to AG Barr’s motives, intentions and choice of hat colors – that is above my pay grade.

    MAGA

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    • redthunder238 says:

      What “criminal prosecution” are you referring to? Literally zero anti-Trump people are being prosecuted for ANYTHING. Even McCabe and they released an IG report on him almost a year ago. lmao Wake the F up. We’re being conned.

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        • redthunder238 says:

          That’s probably the 15th time I’ve been accused of being shareblue. Again, I HATE the Left, it’s just plain as day that the DS is still fully entrenched. I get it, I’m a pessimist but there’s a reason for that. Nothing has happened to these scumbags and with Bondo Barr and Wray and Liu and Boente still around nothing will!

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          • WhiteBoard says:

            whats your solution? its sounds like you want to get reviewed by the FBI by continuously hinting some kind of can’t wait solution.

            i could be reading your reply wrong. let’s let all options plan out first in a civil way before we risk civil war.

            Patience is necessary because it makes your later action of more strength because you have exhausted all other options.

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            • redthunder238 says:

              No man, I’m sick and tired of hearing about “patience”. It’s ridiculous. What is Barr waiting for? According to him this IG report was going to come out over 6 MONTHS ago. How are people still falling for this? SD himself has been hinting at it for months now. Barr is the main player in the cover up. He’s not going to expose anything.

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              • WhiteBoard says:

                then help us see another possible action? we think Barr and Durham is kind of the only way.

                What else can we do? plan a peaceful protest like hong kong and have gofundme accounts to keep the people there and funded?

                i just cant think of any other options without looking exactly like what the FBI wants to call us.

                i am open to idea, we are open, everyone is open. we just cant think of anything.

                the deep state knows there is a threshold in all countries where the people riot

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                • redthunder238 says:

                  Expose just enough to fire Barr and Wray at least, several other higher-ups like Boente and Liu need to go. If Barr is supposedly on Trump’s side then who would get blamed for leaking on him? The Democrats. He could not only appoint someone who was MAGA, he could put the blame on crazy Leftists who would no doubt celebrate Barr being canned. Barr is a snake, he needs to be replaced.

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              • Amy2 says:

                Okay, we get it. You’re the smart one and we’re blind idiots. Next.

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              • Linda K. says:

                And when he does indict the cabal, redthunder, I am sure you will be the happiest of us all.

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      • Super Elite Lt. Col. Covfefe999 says:

        lmao Wake the F up.

        If it turns out you were wrong, will you apologize for laughing at people who were more patient than you were?

        I remember well when the Sessions fans used to berate anyone who doubted his ability to perform as AG. They were in the majority and used their power to belittle anyone who didn’t belong to the group. Over time, all of that changed. Just keep that in mind …

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  7. HillaryisGuilty says:

    Q: How do you get a one armed Democrat out of a tree?
    A: Wave at him.

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  8. mark says:

    Please correct me if I’m wrong.

    Isn’t Horowitz the IG? Isn’t he limited in his report by by being the IG? Isn’t the IG office the place where truth goes to die? By design?

    Isn’t Barr the AG, completely independent of the IG and by design the top LE officer of the United States with the ability to appoint an independent counsel for investigations and prosecution of crimes? Didn’t AG Barr do that?

    Isn’t Durham supposed to be a top shelf prosecutor? He’d scare the crap out of me if I was opposite him in a court case, how about you? If you were a defendant wouldn’t you want to have all of the information that you could have to use in your defense, including all the information that Sundance asks for in this article?

    Don’t you think that both Barr and Durham are watching the spin from the criminals on their limited scope of reveiw in the IG report, waiting patiently for slip of tongue by the criminals?

    And finally, who gives a crap about indictments to close to an election? I don’t do you? I guess we’ll see as Ukraine and Burrisma are looking like a good place to start educating the American people about decades of corruption by politicians not only for kickbacks for money but also needless WARS started by these same corrupt politicians. Just my opinion.

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    • redthunder238 says:

      The line about Barr and Durham “waiting patiently for slip of tongue by the criminals” is just ridiculous. lol

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    • Amy2 says:

      Yes Mark! And btw, Donald Trump is STILL president! It’s still a great day to be an American!

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    • Julian says:

      I’m afraid you’re wrong. AG Barr is not the top Law enforcement official in the country.

      President Trump is the top Law enforcement official inn the country. The President delegates his law enforcement capabilities to his hands picked AG.

      That’s how the system works.

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  9. SES, Senior Executive Service is the sedition branch of the feral government > their Plum Book directory in excel spreadsheet at > Aim4Truth(.)org > includes Mueller, Comey, Rosenstein, McCabe, Sessions, bagpipe Billy BARR, HOROWITZ, WRAY, Huber, Gowdy and more > Durham worked under Mueller during Whitey Bulger whitewash > the fix is in

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  10. Michael Jones says:

    The “Spring of the DEPLORABLES” is close at hand! It better be, or else.

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    • Super Elite Lt. Col. Covfefe999 says:

      Haha! Deplorable Spring. 🙂 I laugh about it but in all honesty I’m quite serious. I think we’re on the verge of a civil war and I’m unafraid to participate.

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  11. MLK says:

    I won’t belabor all the attempted resolves since Trump won the election. Everyone here can recite them as well as I can. They all were droningly the same — candidate Trump loses and is then prosecuted and locked up for the rest of his life; President-Elect Trump resigns before taking the oath; President Trump resigns in disgrace in lieu of impeachment, conviction and removal.

    Those ships have sailed, at least until after the 2020 election.

    I would caution against making any snap judgements about Horowitz/Barr/Durham for a couple of reasons. First, under the totality of the circumstances, there is no more chance that their report/indictments would put a period on this in any meaningful way than did the 9/11 or Warren Commissions reports, to name but two analogues.

    Physics Law of Conservation of Energy applies. The negative energy can only be transferred, not neutralized. The citizenry has no power to hold Permanent Government officials and other malefactors to account so it’s the Democrat Party and its media allies on the hot seat. The latter, in terms of individuals, are discredited canon fodder. The behemoth corporate entities aren’t going anywhere.

    But the Democrats have to stand for elections. In Congress they’re at risk in the 2020 elections of what happened to Republicans in the 1974 midterms.

    If Horowitz’s report is 500 or so pages it’s devastating. Indeed, in terms of the damage done to the Democrat brand, it’s unclear at the moment which is worse for them, indictments of principal malefactors or not.

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    • redthunder238 says:

      That last paragraph is complete nonsense. Like the size of the IG report means anything, and to claim that it’s unclear if indictments would be a good thing, who are you trying to fool?

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      • MLK says:

        Did Horowitz’s report on Hillary’s email investigation fool anyone, to say nothing of the Executive Summary?

        I’m simply asserting that the 2020 election consequences of no indictments could well be more severe for Democrats. I think that’s a no-brainer if Brennan isn’t indicted.

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        • redthunder238 says:

          That would make sense if the majority of the public knew about what was going on. The MSM has done a fantastic job of hiding the truth. Ask yourself, what percentage of the public knows about Brennan’s actions?

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          • WhiteBoard says:

            strategy should be – Clinesmith indicted and arrested for falsifying evidence on a Fisa. Then flood the news with his motive to do it was to two hop into Trumps campaign (train the public on the 2 hop thing – and get them thinking wow i could of been spied on by this)..

            then have Clinesmith tell who his team – and get mcabe and strzock indicted – they indicated Brennen misled them.. indict brennen, have him testify he was ordered by Obama

            have Obama inform the public he was tricked by Brennen.

            Drain swamp of all people who pushed Mueller and impeachment showing they were complicit in this framing of a president. special elections.

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            • redthunder238 says:

              They put Clinesmith out there to be attacked. He’s not the goal, he’s not even in the top 30. lol If they’re going to inform the public on spying then just release the evidence of those contractors with full access to the NSA database. They could have and probably still are spying on all kinds of people.

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              • WhiteBoard says:

                Good point.

                Basically expose that Fusion GPS and Crowdstrike were contractors assessing our nsa database….

                That should make the Ukraine Call be seen by the public in a new light (aka Crowdstrike).

                I like your thinking.

                so your seeing Barr as a Coup player (but the fake Truce card, as the coup really continues its attack)

                Well Trump put Barr to the test by giving him the declass power.. so the way he handles his IG report may be what determines if Trump cans him and appoints another acting (that has the same declass power given to Barr -and she declasses)

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            • MLK says:

              Comey memorialized the whole shebang. Remember, real and codes names?

              Brennan is human scum. He spied on the then Democrat-controlled SSCI; He lied to Congress under oath; And he debased President Obama and the Office of the Presidency by leaking to the NYT that he forced Obama to pick drone assassination targets on a weekly basis, including an American citizen.

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          • Amy2 says:

            The dems know what’s going on. You don’t smell their desperation?

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  12. Rick says:

    The perpetrators are either lawyers or agents within the institutions. During Mueller’s probe they had 2-1/2 years to hide or alter evidence(Flynn 302’s, Clinesmith altered email). They still have people there now working to cover their asses(Flynn prosecutor). These people are snakes, they know the law and they know how to operate on the edges.

    It appears John Durham is investigating conspiracy which is very difficult to convict. He’s not going to indict on small crimes until he gets all the pieces together on the larger crimes, IMO.

    Horowitz is limited to the DOJ and FBI. I suspect he’ll release the declassified material relating to those departments, and John Durham’s report will release the rest, hopefully after some convictions.

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    • WhiteBoard says:

      why would judge collyer order a review of the NSA query stuff ANY sign off on a FISA of a campaign member months later ? that seems suspect!

      OKAY I’m stupid, i get it again. They illegally used the databases assessible via FISAs to get circumstantial evidence to apply for a FISA? meaning literally every FISA signed would get approved cause it would be based on something relatively real.

      the question is how did Collyer KNOWWWWW the queries were PRIOR to the FISA sign?

      if there is no audit, and the contractors are accessing it behind the query system… then they would of had to been caught with it on their personal computer ( the only evidence of a download via export) . This to me indicates the SECRECY of the laptop and server situations.

      I think they found FISA database exports on the weiner laptop, the lawyers laptop, the DNC server, etc… ” i caught them all”

      rudy had the nypd support (they seized the laptop initially via the child texting). Lynch had the Garner case over them to keep them quiet.

      The Mueller gang was trying to find out who entrapped Anthony Weiner with the underage girl to kickoff the NYPD warrant – Rudy. “I caught them all”

      any thoughts???

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  13. This investigation better produce results, and sooner than Sept 2020.
    Withholding information already declassified looks more like Mueller style cover-up.
    Giuliani was right: if the DOJ cant investigate FISAgate spying and bring people to justice, then no federal law enforcement agency will be trusted every again, including the DOJ.

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  14. Skidroe says:

    I CAUGHT THEM ALL! I CAUGHT THEM ALL!

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  15. Mac says:

    *sigh* I can only reiterate what I have said before. There will be NO release of any material which could potentially lead to the dissolution of this nation. The activities of Barr, et al, as well as President Trump is solely for the purpose of preserving this nation, not charging or altering it to any significant degree.

    Look, what happened in the Obama administration was that intragovernment corruption rose too its pinnacle. Official organs of the government spied upon citizens, without benefit of legal justification and then engaged in a purposeful attempt to derail a Presidential campaign and then remove a duly elected sitting President, before he had any opportunity to even commit an impeachable infraction. And, this activity had to be known to the then sitting POTUS, Barack Obama. This is huge and could well lead to the collapse of this country. So, investigations will be dragged out. Evidence will be suppressed. Conclusions will be half -hearted and confined to lower level functionaries.

    On top of that, the systemic corruption of the political class would be revealed. Again, this could well lead to the dissolution of the nation. Does anyone really believe that a slew of Republican Congress Critters retired and resigned simply because they wanted to spend more time with their family or for “health issues”?

    You will be old and gray, or older and grayer, before much of this “evidence” ever sees the light of day. This is the largest cover-up in US history. And it will continue.

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    • gary says:

      what you suggest IS the collapse of the nation.

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      • Mac says:

        No, government has always been corrupt, to some degree. That is the nature of politics. But, what we would be seeing, if all of this evidence were presented to the American people would be civil war. The anti-governnment corruption faction [the half of the citizenry who voted for Trump] would demand that high level members of the government be charged, tried and, possibly, convicted. The rest of the citizens would fight against that. So, If the evidence of these crimes was publicly revealed and no action was taken against the perpetrators half the country would revolt. If action was taken against the perpetrators, then half the nation would revolt. That IS the collapse of the country.

        Now, we may see the revolution anyway.

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        • coolmamie says:

          Republicans, in general, are not the revolution types. Not the massive protest types. Not the “community organizing” types.

          We are the “castle doctrine” types. We stay home, living our lives – most of us constructively – with our guns at the ready in case of an intruder.

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          • Cam Heck says:

            If that’s the case- and from what I see, it is- then, sadly, you will deserve the very circumstance many of you are despairing about.

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            • coolmamie says:

              I am speaking of Republicans/conservatives in general, and the evidence (or lack thereof) bears me out.

              Trump is correct that his supporters represent a “movement.” So why WASN’T his inauguration the largest in history? Why hasn’t there been at least one massive March on Washington in support of our beloved president since the attempt to remove him became obvious? Why don’t we all get together and do a sit-in for transparency until ALL the documents are released? Why were we not in the halls of congress during the cruel attacks on Kavanaugh?

              People talk big on this site, but those of us who seek the truth here and from similar non-MSM sources are a distinct minority, and we are joined by a small radical element that tends to make us all look bad. That is one reason I seldom share this site with non-believers.

              If the word could be gotten out for a mass demonstration, there would almost certainly be violence. I don’t have a loved one to spare, do you?

              If there is a slower, more prudent solution that requires more patience, then so be it. The truth wills out in the end.

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        • WhiteBoard says:

          if we stop beleiveing in the institutions, then we stop following their regulations and rules. kind of like what the hood is doing with cops, and the cops are learning their power is solely in the illusion that they must be obeyed or respected.

          the elites know that losing faith in the institutions is the end of the federal government agencies. they know THEY HAVE to restore them, THE ONLY ISSUE is that the democrat psychos are so greedy for power they are RISKING the loss of the institutions by continuing this LEGAL COUP because they know its legal.

          taxes –
          red lights –
          dmvs –
          gun laws –
          property taxes –
          regulations food production, commerce, etc –

          all that would dissapear in a month and catch on nationwide like a virus.

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        • Mac…. I am sure VSG/ESG PDJT talked to ppl (military,intel) who back him up before election and after…there will be not collapse of nation if traitors/ds operators will have to face justice AND THEY WILL HAVE TO …society did not collapse in Poland 1981 or Chile 1973. By now Mac more than half population know what demon c ratic socialists/ commies ,Trotskyists wanna … because most of nation know- if it coming to this they will put up for 3-6 months “inconvenient situation ” will you ???

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          • Mac says:

            At this point in history, widespread civil unrest could very well result in civil war. Would the military stop it? Maybe. But, if that happens, there would be serious consequences. 3-6 months of an “inconvenient situation”? Possibly. But, them again the situation may go on much longer. And what kind of inconvenience are we talking about? Portions of Detroit and NYC have not been rebuilt since the riots of the late 60s. What would such armed insurrection do to the US economy? What about our foreign affairs? Then there is what such a insurrection would do to the government itself. Who gets fired, and for what? What effect will this have on the functioning of the government? How many elected politicians will be removed and who will replace them? Then there is the obvious question of who would prevail in a conflict between nearly equally strong forces? And, who would end up in control of the military and the remaining government?

            Wide spread civil disturbances are not a good thing. If you are in a contested area, how do you obtain food? If the electric grid is down, how do you store food and maintain contact with others? What about water? If you live in food growing areas, what do you do when people come to take your food and other possessions. If government control ceases to exist, who protects society? A society is a fragile thing, in this day and age. Most people do not grow their own food. They do not have separate water supplies. They are not in a position to provide effective security for themselves.

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        • TPW says:

          Yes we will see a revolution if this is allowed to continue unpunished. Reality check….Hillary Clinton won the election…….how long do you think it would take for all our liberties and freedoms to disappear? It is better to handle this now than to wait until everything you own and your freedoms are gone. Did not any of you get a taste of the things to come under Obama? Do you not see the direction we were headed? Do you all not see how bad it has gotten and is now in all of our faces because they can no longer cover it up? Just think if these things go unpunished …..the brazen, outed behavior of the next Democrat President with the help of Republicons, Big Media, Big Globalist Banks, who are all on a mission to bankrupt and destroy this country. Sad But I believe some here have not understood the seriousness of the state we are in.

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          • Mac says:

            Would we see a revolution if there were no high level or widespread indictments? Possibly. But, unlikely. Would we see a revolution if most of the higher ups in the Obama administration were indicted? Probably. And likely. Remember the whole Get Trump movement is not political. It is designed to protect the culture of corruption and criminal behavior which is the basis of our current political system. It is all about the Benjamins. And, no one, NO ONE, in the system wants to change it. There is simply too much money involved.

            So, where does that leave the common man?

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  16. gary says:

    i would think the flynn case ,falling apart,will be the first domino. the ridiculous ,panic driven defense by van grack,of the viability of the prosecutors actions against flynn,seem to me to be evidence of attempted coup by obama DOJ/FBI perps ,to hide the whole picture. also,the mention of DOJ and flynn lawyers both requesting a stay till the I.G. report release, not a motion by van grack and flynn lawyers,as all the other motions were addressed,is a slight clue that Barr is involved. i believe Barr is going to nail who he can prove broke the law.

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  17. S&WJM625 says:

    Mr Barr, if you obfuscate, cover up or refuse to prosecute are you ready for blood on your hands?
    Remember El salvador in the 80s,roving gangs of death squads. This will happen if there is a lack of justice. Enough people know what is happening and they will take justice into there own hands. It’s your choice Mr Barr, Death squads and insurrection or bring these seditious bastards to a court of law.
    I am not advocating violence but stating what could/will happen if justice is not served. Back the electorate into a corner,this will become reality. I don’t want the US to turn into Beirut 1980s but if that’s what it takes, so be it.
    MR Barr this not Iran-Contra, you can’t cover it up.
    Molon Labe

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  18. Bandit says:

    There is an interesting thread posted on Twitchy from Svetlana Lekhava’s feed. Probably nothing most people here don’t know, but it is interesting.

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  19. Tom Hansen says:

    There is enough information out publicly to easily conclude that criminal activity occurred by officials and staffs of the DOJ/FBI/CIA/State Dept. and others. The real question is whether Barr will have the guts to really expose the dirty laundry of these agencies and go through with indictments based on what he said, “Let the chips fall where they may.”

    Since their inception, these agencies’ tendencies have always been to cover up their dirty laundry and hide it from the people. I believe the corruption within these agencies are deep and wide and have existed for decades. Although Barr may try to indict some individuals, I am not sure he will be successful in really rooting out all of the corruption.

    In the end, as cynical as this may be, we need to view the federal government as a corrupt organization, and never trust it to do the right thing, because it has an agenda that is not friendly to the citizens of our country.

    This is why all citizens need to advocate for our 1st and 2nd amendment rights because it may be all we have left to counter a corrupt federal government.

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  20. Bogeyfree says:

    Ok, so wouldn’t we all agree that by now, Barr and Durham should have declassified, un-redacted and read all the critical documents and communications they need of these coup conspirators to get indictments from a grand jury?

    If your answer is yes……

    Then with indictments in hand and allowing the IG Report to come out first on the 9th, there really isn’t any reason for Barr and Durham to not announce indictments almost immediately after the IG Report right??

    Or worst case to expose SOME documents to Americans, especially if these could halt in its tracks the House Impeachment process or worst case the Senate trial from even beginning right???

    The alternative is to allow this fraud to get to the Senate where IMO anything goes with the RINOS.

    After all, isn’t the key to saving someone from a lynching, to act BEFORE the noose is around their neck and their hand in on the lever?

    Also, IMO how incredibly tragic would it be with all the documents and communications that Barr and Durham can see today, if they are not acted upon BEFORE the House can brand President Trump with the words “Impeached President” for the rest of eternity.

    IMO the truth should come out by the 12th otherwise more people should be listening to what I believe Sundance is saying without being in your face to his readers.

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    • S&WJM625 says:

      credere et nulli, sed deo

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    • WhiteBoard says:

      Barr has to NOT INDICT AT ALL. or do it in a manner that teaches the public (ALL OF IT).

      Clinesmith falsifying evidence is understandable to ALL as BAD. that is why the WAPO and NYT framed it as “backdating an email” to try and OFFSET the NARRATIVE BUILDING Barr is trying to do with “doctoring evidence” to train the public to think of FRAMING.

      the NYT doing this IS A CLEAR SIGN they know Barr’s plan is to execute this exposure in a Democrat voter understandable way to ENSURE its success.

      the Brennen spied narrative IS NOT THE WAY to get the Entire public to understand this.

      Clinesmith doctoring evidence is….

      there is a strategy here.. IT HAS TO COME AFTER the Mueller FARCE (public drained after its whimper, AFTER the Ukaine Sequel HOAX ( public started to be drained of its impact); AFTER the media has been show to get EVERY STORY Wrong.

      This site’s importance was Maintaining the BASE’s knowlege so we stay with PDJT through the storm.

      PDJT is making their weapons impotent (media credibility) and their Ammo dry (waiting out their weak ambushes). and once they are NAKED he will strike. All he had to do was be STRONG enough to weather their STORM, knowing that in the end it was just noise and temporary. PDJT was strong enough, and his supporters never left him – His base was necessary for phase 1. in 2020 it will be America all.

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    • Super Elite Lt. Col. Covfefe999 says:

      Have they completed their investigation? That’s my #1 question. If they haven’t, then they’re not going to do what everyone wants them to do.

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  21. Linus in W.PA. says:

    While I respect and value all of Sundance’s work and efforts, I still feel that all the things we want to happen must take more time if they are to be done correctly, and done to where they cannot lose due to ‘technicalities’ or failures of due process.

    Barr has said that he himself grew up during the times when gov’t was cracking down on anti-war protestors, so he was well aware of gov’t overreach. He also acknowledged in a public hearing that spying did occur. He followed that statement by saying the rub was whether or not the ‘spying’ was legally predicated. He soon thereafter stated that the answers he was getting didn’t ‘hang together.’ He then followed by saying there was failure at the ‘top levels’ of the alphabet organizations.

    Now, I heard that in recent private practice, Barr specialized in defending citizens against gov’t overreach.

    So, I just don’t think that Barr needed to say any of those things if we was going to shit-can the whole thing. At the time he made those statements, the evidence was most likely very clear that crimes had been committed. By him stating as much, he staked out his position. At the very minimum, to NOT take down the ‘top levels’ of those alphabet organizations would be an absolute loss of face for Barr, and one that he didn’t need.

    I have not lost faith in Barr, and I hope that my faith is soundly placed.

    I don’t have much faith in IG reports. I think this one will point out massive problems, and I think there will be criminal referrals. From there, I don’t know what happens.

    But, I do believe that Durham is doing God’s work here.

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    • Peppurr says:

      Interesting choice of words “hang together”. Subliminal? Because that’s what I’d LIKE to believe. Grasping at anything at this point. I sure agree on the IG reports because we’ve actually seen the lack of referrals, prior to this.

      I dunno. Bottom line is that I’m not getting my hopes up on anything. That way I won’t fall so hard. Gotta see some punishment for their crimes.

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      • Linus in W.PA. says:

        Barr’s words were very deliberate in my opinion during the Senate hearings. Shaheen almost got overcome with the Vapors when Barr said ‘spying’ occurred.

        So, when he said “hang together,” he may have thrown out a double entendre. Maybe he was also indicating that the ‘small group’ gang was being divided.

        Let’s also not forget something. These treasonous bastagees have not yet won anything. Nothing. And the battle continues. Sure, these bastagees had a lot of plans. By now though, a lot of them are ‘off-plan’ so to speak: they’ve been sidelined and are scheming for their best possible outcome.

        Rock on with your bad self, President Trump.

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  22. Bogeyfree took aim, shot and scored with this statement: “Also, IMO how incredibly tragic would it be with all the documents and communications that Barr and Durham can see today, if they are not acted upon BEFORE the House can brand President Trump with the words “Impeached President” for the rest of eternity.” Good shooting………

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  23. Bogeyfree says:

    I wish Sidney would chime in here and give her opinion as she knows many of these DC people and is clearly better connected than pretty much any of us as evidenced via her book Licensed to Lie.

    I’d really like to know if she thinks……..

    1) Barr acts (via indictments or exposing declassified documents publicly) within days and BEFORE the House Impeachment vote so PT is not branded an Impeached President for eternity.

    2) The Senate halts impeachment and Barr acts (via indictments or exposing declassified documents publicly) within the next 30-45 days.

    3) Barr acts (via indictments or exposing declassified documents publicly) during the Senate trial

    4) Barr never acts (via indictments or exposing declassified documents publicly) but determines the predicate was correct just bad intel and some policy missteps.

    5) Something else

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    • SAM-TruthFreedomLiberty says:

      1) Trump “wants” impeachment to showcase his evidence
      2,3) Why does Barr need to act in that timeframe?
      4)No reason to do that if evidence shows otherwise.
      5) yeah, lots of other options if you don’t think Trump is a dummy and Barr evil deep state..

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  24. SAM-TruthFreedomLiberty says:

    ???
    https://social.quodverum.com/@REX/103232370341256970
    Sundance in full-on conspiracy theory mode.
    Why haven’t any of the materials Trump ID’d been declassified? he asks.
    Must be because Rosenstein and A G Barr are ‘deep state’, he says.
    What utter crap.
    The reason? It’s all evidence being used in the Durham criminal investigation, Sundance, you halfwit.
    And Trump was revealing that he has ALL the cards.
    Honestly, Sundance seems to think that all this is a show, just for him. That’s why he’s so wrong all the time.

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    • S&WJM625 says:

      ADREM,please.

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    • Paprika says:

      SAM-TFL–What is your point and purpose of posting this with just ??? before quoting an anti-Sundance post? Are you in agreement with it? Disagree? Or just thought you’d drop it into the conversation to see what would happen?

      It is very hard for me to imagine that you posted this with anything less than ill intent without taking a position or giving your viewpoint before or after quoting this post from that site.

      Would you kindly explain your rationale?

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    • Ad rem says:

      So….being the “little ray of sunshine” you are, you just couldn’t wait to drag this **** into the Treehouse? Ta….

      Liked by 2 people

      • Paprika says:

        — “So….being the “little ray of sunshine” you are,…”– Now that was funny!

        Thanks for the chuckle to go along with your ever superb moderation!

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    • Super Elite Lt. Col. Covfefe999 says:

      If REX had any sense of self worth he/she wouldn’t write crap like that. It’s fine to disatree with Sundance’s intepretation of the events, not fine to launch a personal attack. Anyone who has read Sundance’s articles knows that they are incredibly well researched and written.

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      • Super Elite Lt. Col. Covfefe999 says:

        I just looked at some REX posts. The person issues tweet-like short missives. Where is the research? Where is the in-depth analysis? Where are links to important documents that we should have all read and re-read? I don’t see it.

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        • Peoria Jones says:

          Do Sidney Powell and Sarah Palin post on that site too, like they do here? LOL!

          Probably just some jealous, lonely kooks desperate for attention. I stay away from sites like that – you never know what you’ll catch.

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  25. Kleen says:

    We all know based on Solomon’s own words that there are agents wanting justice.

    These agents went to his house to tell him to keep digging. Who knows what else these agents told him. He has “sources”

    Someone has to be planning on leaking and exposing the terrorists if Barr & company don’t.

    I honestly think Matt Whitaker is going to be revealed as one of the good guys. He knows what’s going on, he was involved with the behind the scenes investigation and he assured us this will be most consequential report in decades. It wouldn’t shock me if he provided some information to Barr/ IG

    Trump was briefed on the report, he seems happy and very confident. Specially if you consider what the crooks in the house and courts are doing to him.

    He should be down, sad. But he is upbeat

    If the report was bad he would be mad right now. He would be calling people to resign.

    I trust POTUS, he hasn’t let me down yet.

    Also, FISAs will have to be declassified with the report made public. Has to!

    You can’t have a report about the FISA and not declassify the actual docs. Then that may lead to more because it’s all part of a sequence.
    We should Be seeing the origin of that sequence.

    Yeah, all other docs… who knows? But it make sense they would.

    Sidney Powell has her sources. And she is optimistic. She said, don’t focus on the conclusion but the informations in the report.

    It just seems the deep state is out of options with the Flynn’s case. Powell may the one who brings the crooks down.

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    • Peppurr says:

      Great post Kleen ! I’ve noticed that President Trump most recently, mentions the swamp with “I caught them all”. as opposed to draining it. Kind of stood out to me.

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  26. Curtis Gomes says:

    Everyone’s impatience is beginning to show itself once again. The Horowitz Dec. 9th report will be anti-climatic. It will allude to wrong doing on many levels, but will not be definitive and will not recommend further investigation for criminal prosecution. Those of us that yearn for some sort of revelation and confirmation of these bureaucrats criminal activities will be sorely disappointed. We will then be told to wait for the Durham investigation to assert itself. Be patient we are told. This too will then be a severe let down for most of us. Everything hinges on the 2020 election. If Trump is re-elected there will be some movement against these criminals. If not, we all know what will happen to this investigation. Meanwhile, there will be jockeying and obfuscation until after Nov. 3rd, 2020 while the powers to be determine which way the winds blow. We operate like a banana republic where the justice system runs according to who happens to be in power at any given time.

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    • It is the duty of the IG to report the facts. Anything which could be criminal must be timely reported to prosecutors, even while the report is still being prepared. The IG makes no prosecutorial decisions … but his report is ready-to-use evidence in any future criminal case.

      What I want to know is … what I expect Horowitz will discuss. Namely: how was it possible for these felonies to happen in the first place?” Exactly how and in what way did law, policy, and process fail us? What should we do now to fix it so that this can never happen again, no matter who attempts to do it or why? I foresee that the only cure will be to replace both FISA and PATRIOT, and possibly several other related laws. We shall see.

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      • owtolunch says:

        Standard IG Audit Result – “Failure of Systems and Controls”, “Failure to Follow Procedures”, “Management Inattention” “Inadequate Procedures” —

        Recommendations – Be more careful and deliberate in performing your functions, require more training, revise your procedures. Do internal oversight.

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    • Super Elite Lt. Col. Covfefe999 says:

      The Horowitz Dec. 9th report will be anti-climatic.

      Actually, we don’t know yet. Wait til the report is released. And adjust your expectations. I’m seeking sunlight.

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  27. Sherri Young says:

    Here’s a thought that smacked me awhile ago.

    If these investigations/prosecutions get all the way to Obama’s inner circle but by design do not touch Obama, the Left may be caught in the position of having to figure out if their hallowed messiah Obama was really in charge or not. The Republicans (including myself) would be howling that of course Obama was aware. The Left might have to defend a position that Obama knew nothing and was not in control of his own White House.

    IMO, The Left has to choose from 4 options for their narrative.

    1) Barry was lied to or otherwise ill-informed. That could land heavily on the intelligence community, including Susan Rice, Brennan, and Comey.

    2) Barry was a puppet and not in charge. That would still land heavily on his inner circle, including Susan Rice, Brennan, and Comey.

    3) Trump and Flynn were/are agents of a foreign nation, just maybe (maybe not) Russia. That would leave the intelligence community looking bad.

    4) Barry and his inner circle knowingly used false information to stage a coup.

    Option #3 is the only one that is not high-grade kryptonite for The Left.

    Bongino said last week that he is hearing that Russiagate 2.0 may be heading our way in the form of Turkeygate. Makes sense. The narrative must be controlled.

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  28. DMWT says:

    Do you know how many times I have written on my calendar that IG was going to release this report? Me either. I have forgotten, it has happened so many, many times. personally, I dont think it is ever going to happen–ever.
    However, Q has told us that the de-class will have to come before the release of the report. So, that is worth what you are paying for it—nothing.

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  29. Michael R Lawson says:

    Jesus Sundance…How the hell do you keep up with all of these details?!?!?

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  30. dallasdan says:

    SD:
    “There has been a great deal of discussion about the pending release of the DOJ Inspector General report on potential FISA abuses on December 9th, but no word on the declassification material since AG Bill Barr was granted authority on May 23rd, 2019.”

    IMO, SD continues to paint the portrait of “Bondo Barr.” I anticipate that Barr has released the information…to the virtual shredder.

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  31. andy says:

    On the first day of FISA my true love gave to me,
    A dossier of conspiracy.
    On the second day of FISA my true love gave to me,
    Two texting lovers , and a A dossier of conspiracy.
    On the third day of FISA my true love gave to me,
    Three paid informants, Two texting lovers , and a A dossier of conspiracy.
    On the fourth day of FISA my true love gave to me,
    Four two hop taps, three paid informants, Two texting lovers , and a A dossier of conspiracy.

    On the fifth day of FISA my true love gave to me,
    FIVE GOLDEN EYES.
    Four two hop taps, three paid informants, Two texting lovers , and a A dossier of conspiracy.
    On the sixth day of FISA my true love gave to me,
    Six leakers leaking, FIVE GOLDEN EYES.
    Four two hop taps, three paid informants, Two texting lovers , and a A dossier of conspiracy.
    On the seventh day of FISA my true love gave to me,
    Seven papers printing, Six leakers leaking, FIVE GOLDEN EYES.
    Four two hop taps, three paid informants, Two texting lovers , and a A dossier of conspiracy.
    On the eighth day of FISA my true love gave to me,
    Eight heads a talking, Seven papers printing, Six leakers leaking, FIVE GOLDEN EYES.
    Four two hop taps, three paid informants, Two texting lovers , and a A dossier of conspiracy.
    On the ninth day of FISA my true love gave to me,
    Nine Comey memos, Eight heads a talking, Seven papers printing, Six leakers leaking,
    FIVE GOLDEN EYES.
    Four two hop taps, three paid informants, Two texting lovers , and a A dossier of conspiracy.
    On the tenth day of FISA my true love gave to me,
    John Brennon Tweeting, Nine Comey memos,
    Eight heads a talking, Seven papers printing, Six leakers leaking,
    FIVE GOLDEN EYES.
    Four two hop taps, three paid informants, Two texting lovers , and a A dossier of conspiracy.
    On the eleventh day of FISA my true love gave to me,
    Adam Schiff impeaching, John Brennon Tweeting, Nine Comey memos,
    Eight heads a talking, Seven papers printing, Six leakers leaking,
    FIVE GOLDEN EYES.
    Four two hop taps, three paid informants, Two texting lovers , and a A dossier of conspiracy.
    On the twelfth day of FISA my true love gave to me,
    Twelve hangman hanging, Adam Schiff impeaching, John Brennon Tweeting, Nine Comey memos,
    Eight heads a talking, Seven papers printing, Six leakers leaking,
    FIVE GOLDEN EYES.
    Four two hop taps, three paid informants, Two texting lovers ,
    and a A dossier of conspiracy.

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  32. Jeff says:

    I read every word of that speech Barr gave before the Federalist Society recenly, and I thought it was glorious.
    Clearly AG Barr has a fine and intimate grasp of history. He would then also certainly be aware of the impact one man can have on the course of human events. Donald J. Trump is living, breathing proof of that. At this current juncture, the Attorney General of The United States, one man, also has an opportunity to have a profound impact on the course of human events.
    I have no doubt that this thought has crossed William Barr’s mind. After reading his speech, I’m convinced he has it in him to do the right thing. Not out of ego, but out of a knowledge that history always remembers those who bucked the odds and Did The Right Thing, even if they falter. I believe he’ll stay true out of an obligation to history.

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    • Bendix says:

      A Democrat former reporter I link to at times, refers to that speech as the basis for his belief that Barr is going to see that justice is done.

      Interestingly, that writer recently had one comment (that I saw) from someone who never commented before, but really believes the writer should quit covering this story, the coup against the president.
      Hmm.

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    • Peppurr says:

      Thanks for this Jeff !

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  33. Tseg says:

    Nobody wants to let the genie out of the bottle, the toothpaste out of the tube… if the Law of Unintended Consequences begins to unfold nobody wants to be the monkey responsible for putting the cork back in. It seems all are handling “the data” like it is an armed nuclear weapon. Even PT dished off the hot potato giving Barr the redaction authority. We already know millions with TDS have MSM induced psychosis. They are fragile and looking for a fight along with a safe space. But maybe it is the right thing to do to rip the bandaids from the mine filled with TNT? But what if the wick fizzles?

    The answer is not simple nor obvious.

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  34. burnett044 says:

    PT came into office with a good trusting heart…..he had to learn just how corrupt it really was…

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    • burnett044 says:

      and this…

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    • trapper says:

      Hey, get ready Burnett. It’s gonna be a rematch.

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      • burnett044 says:

        trapper do you think she will run again?

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        • trapper says:

          My money has been on the democrats heading into their convention with no clear candidate, a hung first ballot, and Hillary calling in her markers to take the nomination on the second ballot, a rematch. I have seen nothing to indicate any other plan. And I believe all the Trump team timing is geared to that. Blowing all your ammo too soon would be a problem.

          Watch him. He is patient. He has been leading and working the Chinese for two years (hint- there ain’t gonna be a deal), and I still don’t think they have caught on to it. Even if they have, Chicoms gonna be Chicoms, and Clintons gonna be Clintons. PDJT uses his opponents’ strengths against them, and lets them fall back on their weaknesses. Put a crooked politician up against a savvy and street smart businessman, and I’ll take the businessman all day long.

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          • burnett044 says:

            trapper…..with her ego anything is possible….isn`t it amazing any time the heat is on her she suddenly gets sick…??

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            • trapper says:

              I don’t think she has the energy or stamina for both a primary and a genera election, and I think she knows it, thus the plan to take the nomination without entering the primaries.

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  35. trapper says:

    i understand wanting to preserve the institutions. But failure to delcassify and release unredacted everything on Sundance’s list not only would do nothing to preserve the DOJ/FBI, IC, it would render useless any efforts toward preservation. The political corruption within these institutions, all of it in all of its current and past ugliness, must be fully exposed in order to eliminate it and prevent its regrowth. Anything less is simply painting over the rot.

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    • jnearen2013 says:

      Never happen!

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      • trapper says:

        I disagree. I think the relevant question is “when.”

        The political element in all of it is huge, dominant. We may talk about preserving the rule of law, but the means by which the rule of law is preserved are entirely political. The greatest ideals of self-government and natural rights are in the end defined, lifted up, and defended by imperfect and nonperfectible human beings, the beautiful resting upon the flawed.

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  36. jnearen2013 says:

    No one likes to be wrong. But, in this, I hope I am dead wrong. In my humble opinion, the IG report will be a giant “nothing burger!” I also believe that Barr/Durham are deep state and the most we will see is some low level “fall guy” attorney charged–if that. The AG isn’t about to charge anyone “politically connected” and that is especially true of Brennan, Comey, Strozk, Page, etc. etc.

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  37. Right to reply says:

    If they want to reinstate confidence, they have to declassify everything.
    Most view Snowden and Assange as traitors, but how many cover their cams, rip batteries out of their phones, and install spyware because of what they revealed?
    The spying and corruption has to stop, and only we have the power to ensure it.

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  38. California Joe says:

    Maybe AG Barr is smart enough not to litigate a criminal case in the news media on Democrat terms before actually indicting the criminals! That’s my expectation based on 30 years experience. Hopefully it’s not wishful thinking because so far the only people being arrested are friends of President Trump and mostly for nothing! Having the highest echelons of the FBI, CIA and DOJ attempting to frame the President of the United States for a crime that not only he didn’t commit but a crime that never even happened is about as aggrievious as you can get. I expect that AG Barr and Durham would feel the same way. Not so sure about Horowitz?

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    • Horowitz’s role is very different. He is to be the no-stones-unturned objective investigator, who is looking at “the processes themselves.” A very critical point-of-view, especially in this case.

      In my view, “we created and unleashed a ‘Über Surveillance System,’ then find that we cannot control it.” Minions were able to gather awesome information on pretextual bases, and walk out the door with it in their shirt pockets. Meanwhile, more than one Federal Judge tasked with controlling the process basically ruled(!) that they couldn’t. Yes, there’s a helluva lot for Mr. Horowitz to talk about, all of which has nothing directly to do with who’s gonna go to jail.

      I was left with the unmistakable impression, while watching his testimony before various committees, that Mr. Horowitz and his teams are extremely professional – and that he is profoundly aware of exactly where the boundaries of their enabling Act have been drawn. (I daresay he could quote it by heart.) I’ve been impressed by the level-handed fairness and thoroughness of his work products so far. In short, I think that the role of Inspector General is in very, very good hands. (Both the IG himself, and his tireless and diligent staff.)

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  39. burnett044 says:

    I have read much about Barr and Ruby Ridge lately…..and when I watch him he strikes me as a company man…..the fact he refused to go after Clintons…
    he will preserve the institutions me thinks…
    Durham is another story…from the little I can find on him he is tuff……I want to see what he does..
    yes Barr gives a good speech…but that just does not cut it for me…
    for years I heard follow the plan…but no one ever said what the plan was..lol
    as Bush said …”fool me once shame on yo..fool me….ya can`t fool me twice.

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  40. MitchRyderDetroitWheels says:

    Jeff Sessions did nothing about the IRS deal and I expect Barr to play the same cards with the FBI and his Justice Dept. These people don’t investigate the prior administration. That is the game rules and have been for 50 years or more.

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    • Mitch, I don’t agree. You don’t leave a job of being chief counsel for $$ American $$ Express $$ to return to the job of being Attorney General (thus becoming only the second person in American history to have done so), “for the money.” You don’t take the job, knowing damn well the merciless politics that you are thereby diving into, unless there is a reason. I think that William Barr “is the Real Deal.” And, I think that he’s the one person that The Swamp has good reason to be terrified of. I think that’s why he accepted the job. We shall see.

      “Bill, we need you to take this on …”

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      • theoldzombie says:

        Agreed. Barr came into the position during the Trump administration and not before it nor at the beginning.

        Personally I think he saw enough stuff going on in the Mueller probe that with his experience he realized that shenanigans were going on. He may or may not like Trump but either way he doesn’t want to see the office of the President ruined and possibly the country to break down into civil war or a break up.

        Hell it wouldn’t surprise me if he read sites like this one and started connecting dots on his own. Maybe a few calls to “friends” around the DOJ and FBI to find out whats really going on. Realizing as more dots connect that things have gotten way out of control in the government.

        Look at the speech he gave a few weeks ago. I think it’s a very important speech. I think with that speech we see where Barr really stands and he’s working on doing the right thing.

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  41. Sherri Young says:

    Let’s reorient, look at some highlights, and find the rules of the game. Emphasis via capitalization is mine.

    https://publicpool.kinja.com/subject-memorandum-on-agency-cooperation-with-attorney-1834993466

    Memorandum on Agency Cooperation with Attorney General’s Review of Intelligence Activities Relating to the 2016 Presidential Campaigns

    Section 1. Agency Cooperation.
    The Attorney General is currently conducting a REVIEW OF INTELLIGENCE ACTIVITIES RELATING TO THE CAMPAIGNS IN THE 2016 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION AND CERTAIN RELATED MATTERS. The heads of elements of the intelligence community, as defined in 50 U.S.C. 3003(4), and the heads of each department or agency that includes an element of the intelligence community shall promptly provide such assistance and information as the Attorney General may request in connection with that review.

    (Okay, there’s the context and two limits.)

    Sec. 2. Declassification and Downgrading. With respect to any matter classified under Executive Order 13526 of December 29, 2009 (Classified National Security Information), the Attorney General may, by applying the standard set forth in either section 3.1(a) or section 3.1(d) of Executive Order 13526, declassify, downgrade, or direct the declassification or downgrading of information or intelligence that relates to the Attorney General’s review referred to in section 1 of this memorandum. Before exercising this authority, the Attorney General should, to the extent he deems it practicable, consult with the head of the originating intelligence community element or department. This authority is not delegable and applies notwithstanding any other authorization or limitation set forth in Executive Order 13526.

    The President Executive Order 13526 – Classified National Security Information

    https://www.archives.gov/isoo/policy-documents/cnsi-eo.html#three

    Sec. 3.1. Authority for Declassification. (a) Information shall be declassified as soon as it no longer meets the standards for classification under this order.

    (d) It is presumed that information that continues to meet the classification requirements under this order requires continued protection. In some exceptional cases, however, the need to protect such information may be outweighed by the public interest in disclosure of the information, and in these cases the information should be declassified.

    When such questions arise, they shall be referred to the agency head or the senior agency official. That official will determine, as an exercise of discretion, whether the public interest in disclosure outweighs the damage to the national security that might reasonably be expected from disclosure. (This provision appears to be overruled by the PDJT’s directive. If practicable, the originating IC element is given notice and allowed to comment, but the AG decides.)

    But again, any declassification must be made in furtherance of what is stated in Section One of the directive. This is not a full transparency order.

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  42. Burnt Toast says:

    So,again, what was Mueller investigating?
    Strictly speaking, that is classified and has not been released.

    Not that anyone I know in meatspace is talking about it but if it comes up that will be my sole contribution.

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  43. littleanniefannie says:

    Barr—encourage strongly Horowitz release this week. Get it out before the next Schitt show starring No Nads!

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  44. Terra Rayner says:

    I’ve also wondered if Admiral Rogers ever testified as was reported right before he left his post?? He knows about the queries and also his meeting with Trump during the transition. Then the immediate move of the transition to his NJ golf course?? And the FBI agent i believe his last name is Ferrante who was pegged by Louie Gohmert along with Tashina Guahar (sp) during i think the rosentstein or strzok testimony! Ferrante may have been the agent strozk sent to the WH?

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  45. joebkonobi says:

    I keep wondering why there are very few leaks in relation to the Durham investigation. Only one I know of is when Barr and Durham went to Italy. I would think investigating the origin of Spygate/Crossfire Hurricane from late 2015 to the time Mueller was appointed would include interviewing a significant number of people, including Mueller”s team, and require a significant number of interviewers. Why so few leaks? Is that good or bad? I sure hope Durham didn’t get Huberized. I’ve concluded Durham is either doing a hell of a job with a crack team of investigators or DOJ is using Durham’s “reputation” to make us think they are conducting a deep dive investigation..

    Also curious when we will hear from Durham. I suppose when indictments are unsealed?

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    • Joe, the Law says that all matters of a Grand Jury are secret … yes, even in your home town. No one knows who is being considered, what evidence has been presented, nor any of the GJ’s deliberations. If the GJ decides to issue an indictment, then only the actual text of the indictment becomes public.

      Prosecutors are very strictly prohibited from revealing anything at all about what they are doing. There should be absolutely no “leaks.” Hence, the absence of leaks are simply an indication that these professionals are actually doing their jobs.

      A fundamental principle of our law is that you are entitled to “robe yourself in a glowing robe of Innocence” unless and until you are formally indicted … (uhhh… “unless you are the President of the United States?” 🙄

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    • Sherri Young says:

      Durham’s investigation started out as a criminal leak investigation. It would be ugly if info about his leak investigation leaked.

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  46. burnett044 says:

    I understand being fed up with waiting..I remember during the great Session Debate of CTH…many of us calling for action was told to wait till the silent assassin gets ready to acttack…and we were sent pics of crows saying ya gonna have to eat this one day…lol
    well i did not have to eat the crow……
    sad I can not make em speed up nor can anyone else i guess…..
    but it is good to vent…..until that is not enuff.

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    • Super Elite Lt. Col. Covfefe999 says:

      It is good to vent. Not good though to let frustrations get the best of us. I think we’re heading into a civil war. I will not be frustrated into inaction or into the belief that we can never win.

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  47. Sherri Young says:

    Here is a line of thought (or a mishmash).
    Durham was already working at the US Attorney’s office in CT before PDJT was elected. He was a long-time Asst US Attorney and Counsel to the US Attorney. Sessions appointed Durham to be Interim US Attorney on October 28, 2017. PDJT nominated him on November 1, 2017, he was confirmed by a unanimous vote and later sworn in on February 22, 2018.

    On August 8, 2017, Sessions and DNI Dan Coats had reacted to PDJT’s complaints about leaking by staging a briefing. Sessions announced that the group responsible for investigating compromise of classified material, the National Insider Threat Task Force (NITTF), would be ramping up their efforts. The NITTF is jointly headed by the AG and the DNI. Typically, the NITTF would make referrals to the DOJ. Sessions said that too few referrals were being received by DOJ and announced that leak referrals would be prioritized.. He assigned Rod Rosenstein and Christopher Wray to oversee these investigations. Cases would be prosecuted through the NSD at DOJ.

    Some internet pundits say Rosie assigned the criminal leak investigative work over to Durham. Others say Matt Whitaker as Sessions’ chief of staff assigned either all leaks or the ones germaine to Spygate to Durham. What we do know is that Durham had a criminal leak investigation that involved James A. Baker, FBI General Counsel under Comey already in progress for several months when Baker testified during the 1st week of October 2018. That was well before Barr was nominated.

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  48. joebkonobi says:

    A tweet from Sundance’s twitter thread tonight from Rich Higgins. Sorry for the sloppy format, don’t know how to copy/paste a tweet. I don’t know who Rich Higgins is but I hope he knows what he is talking about.

    TheLastRefuge
    @TheLastRefuge2

    Hoping for the best….
    https://
    twitter.com/RichHiggins_DC
    /status/1201168818866999296

    Rich Higgins
    @RichHiggins_DC

    .@TheLastRefuge2 will be happy. I’m told there are a few dozen documents declassified and ready for the public. The lying Deep State employees at CNN and MSNBC might be able to spin one or two but they won’t be able to withstand this. #bombsaway
    https://
    theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/11/30/the
    -ig-report-will-release-december-9th-but-what-about-the-declassification-list/

    155
    8:17 PM – Dec 1, 2019
    Twitter Ads info and privacy

    60 people are talking about this

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