Why John Brennan, Peter Strzok and DOJ Needed Julian Assange Arrested – And Why UK Officials Obliged…

According to recent reports U.S. Attorney John Durham and U.S. Attorney General Bill Barr are spending time on a narrowed focus looking carefully at CIA activity in the 2016 presidential election.  One recent quote from a media-voice increasingly sympathetic to a political deep-state notes:

“One British official with knowledge of Barr’s wish list presented to London commented that “it is like nothing we have come across before, they are basically asking, in quite robust terms, for help in doing a hatchet job on their own intelligence services””. (Link)

It is interesting that quote comes from a British intelligence official, as there appears to be mounting evidence of an extensive CIA operation that likely involved U.K. intelligence services.  In addition, and as a direct outcome, there is an aspect to the CIA operation that overlaps with both a U.S. and U.K. need to keep Wikileaks founder Julian Assange under tight control.  In this outline we will explain where corrupt U.S. and U.K. interests merge.

To understand the risk that Julian Assange represented to CIA interests, it is important to understand just how extensive the operations of the CIA were in 2016.  It is within this network of foreign and domestic operations where FBI Agent Peter Strzok is clearly working as a bridge between the CIA and FBI operations.
By now people are familiar with the construct of CIA operations involving Joseph Mifsud, the Maltese professor now generally admitted/identified as a western intelligence operative who was tasked by the CIA (John Brennan) to run an operation against Trump campaign official George Papadopoulos in both Italy (Rome) and London. {Go Deep}
In a similar fashion the CIA tasked U.S. intelligence asset Stefan Halper to target another Trump campaign official, Carter Page.  Under the auspices of being a Cambridge Professor Stefan Halper also targeted General Michael Flynn.  Additionally, using assistance from a female FBI agent under the false name Azra Turk, Halper also targeted Papadopoulos.

The initial operations to target Flynn, Papadopoulos and Page were all based overseas.  This seemingly makes the CIA exploitation of the assets and the targets much easier.
One of the more interesting aspects to the Durham probe is a possibility of a paper-trail created as a result of the tasking operations.  We should watch closely for more evidence of a paper trail as some congressional reps have hinted toward documented evidence (transcripts, recordings, reports) that are exculpatory to the targets (Page & Papadop).  HPSCI Ranking Member Devin Nunes has strongly hinted that very specific exculpatory evidence was known to the FBI and yet withheld from the FISA application used against Carter Page that also mentions George Papadopoulos.  I digress…
However, there is an aspect to the domestic U.S. operation that also bears the fingerprints of the CIA; only this time due to the restrictive laws on targets inside the U.S. the CIA aspect is less prominent.  This is where FBI Agent Peter Strzok working for both agencies starts to become important.
Remember, it’s clear in the text messages Strzok has a working relationship with what he called their “sister agency”, the CIA.  Additionally, Brennan has admitted Strzok helped write the January 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment (ICA) which outlines the Russia narrative; and it is almost guaranteed the July 31st, 2016, “Electronic Communication” from the CIA to the FBI that originated FBI operation “Crossfire Hurricane” was co-authored from the CIA by Strzok…. and Strzok immediately used that EC to travel to London to debrief intelligence officials around Australian Ambassador to the U.K. Alexander Downer.
In short, Peter Strzok appears to be the very eager, profoundly overzealous James Bond wannabe, who acted as a bridge between the CIA and the FBI.  The perfect type of FBI career agent for CIA Director John Brennan to utilize.
Fusion-GPS founder Glenn Simpson hired CIA Open Source analyst Nellie Ohr toward the end of 2015; at appropriately the same time as “FBI Contractors” were identified exploiting the NSA database and extracting information on a specific set of U.S. persons.
It was also Fusion-GPS founder Glenn Simpson who was domestically tasked with a Russian lobbyist named Natalia Veselnitskya.  A little reported Russian Deputy Attorney General named Saak Albertovich Karapetyan was working double-agents for the CIA and Kremlin.  Karapetyan was directing the foreign operations of Natalia Veselnitskaya, and Glenn Simpson was organizing her inside the U.S.
Glenn Simpson managed Veselnitskaya through the 2016 Trump Tower meeting with Donald Trump Jr.  However, once the CIA/Fusion-GPS operation using Veselnitskaya started to unravel with public reporting… back in Russia Deputy AG Karapetyan fell out of a helicopter to his death (just before it crashed).
Simultaneously timed in late 2015 through mid 2016, there was a domestic FBI operation using a young Russian named Maria Butina tasked to run up against republican presidential candidates.  According to Patrick Byrne, Butina’s handler, it was FBI agent Peter Strzok who was giving Byrne the instructions on where to send her. {Go Deep}
All of this context outlines the extent to which the CIA was openly involved in constructing a political operation that settled upon anyone in candidate Donald Trump’s orbit.
International operations directed by the CIA, and domestic operations seemingly directed by Peter Strzok operating with a foot in both agencies. [Strzok gets CIA service coin]
Recap:  ♦Mifsud tasked against Papadopoulos (CIA).  ♦Halper tasked against Flynn (CIA), Page (CIA), and Papadopoulos (CIA).  ♦Azra Turk, pretending to be Halper asst, tasked against Papadopoulos (FBI).   ♦Veselnitskaya tasked against Donald Trump Jr (CIA, Fusion-GPS).  ♦Butina tasked against Trump, and Donald Trump Jr (FBI).
Additionally, Christopher Steele was a British intelligence officer, hired by Fusion-GPS to assemble and launder fraudulent intelligence information within his dossier.  And we cannot forget Oleg Deripaska, a Russian oligarch, who was recruited by Asst. FBI Director Andrew McCabe to participate in running an operation against the Trump campaign and create the impression of Russian involvement.  Deripaska refused to participate.
All of this engagement directly controlled by U.S. intelligence; and all of this intended to give a specific Russia impression.  This predicate is presumably what John Durham is currently reviewing.
The key point of all that background is to see how committed the CIA and FBI were to the constructed narrative of Russia interfering with the 2016 election.  The CIA, FBI, and by extension the DOJ, put a hell of a lot of work into it.  Intelligence community work that Durham is now unraveling.
We also know specifically that John Durham is looking at the construct of the Intelligence Community Assessment (ICA); and talking to CIA analysts who participated in the construct of the January 2017 report that bolstered the false appearance of Russian interference in the 2016 election.  This is important because it ties in to the next part that involves Julian Assange and Wikileaks.
On April 11th, 2019, the Julian Assange indictment  was unsealed in the EDVA.  From the indictment we discover it was under seal since March 6th, 2018:

(Link to pdf)

On Tuesday April 15th more investigative material was released. Again, note the dates: Grand Jury, *December of 2017* This means FBI investigation prior to….
The FBI investigation took place prior to December 2017, it was coordinated through the Eastern District of Virginia (EDVA) where Dana Boente was U.S. Attorney at the time.  The grand jury indictment was sealed from March of 2018 until after Mueller completed his investigation, April 2019.

Why the delay?
What was the DOJ waiting for?
Here’s where it gets interesting….
The FBI submission to the Grand Jury in December of 2017 was four months after congressman Dana Rohrabacher talked to Julian Assange in August of 2017: “Assange told a U.S. congressman … he can prove the leaked Democratic Party documents … did not come from Russia.”

(August 2017, The Hill Via John Solomon) Julian Assange told a U.S. congressman on Tuesday he can prove the leaked Democratic Party documents he published during last year’s election did not come from Russia and promised additional helpful information about the leaks in the near future.
Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, a California Republican who is friendly to Russia and chairs an important House subcommittee on Eurasia policy, became the first American congressman to meet with Assange during a three-hour private gathering at the Ecuadorian Embassy in London, where the WikiLeaks founder has been holed up for years.
Rohrabacher recounted his conversation with Assange to The Hill.
“Our three-hour meeting covered a wide array of issues, including the WikiLeaks exposure of the DNC [Democratic National Committee] emails during last year’s presidential election,” Rohrabacher said, “Julian emphatically stated that the Russians were not involved in the hacking or disclosure of those emails.”
Pressed for more detail on the source of the documents, Rohrabacher said he had information to share privately with President Trump. (read more)

Knowing how much effort the CIA and FBI put into the Russia collusion-conspiracy narrative, it would make sense for the FBI to take keen interest after this August 2017 meeting between Rohrabacher and Assange; and why the FBI would quickly gather specific evidence (related to Wikileaks and Bradley Manning) for a grand jury by December 2017.
Within three months of the grand jury the DOJ generated an indictment and sealed it in March 2018.  The EDVA sat on the indictment while the Mueller probe was ongoing.
As soon as the Mueller probe ended, on April 11th, 2019, a planned and coordinated effort between the U.K. and U.S. was executed; Julian Assange was forcibly arrested and removed from the Ecuadorian embassy in London, and the EDVA indictment was unsealed (link).
As a person who has researched this three year fiasco; including the ridiculously false 2016 Russian hacking/interference narrative: “17 intelligence agencies”, Joint Analysis Report (JAR) needed for Obama’s anti-Russia narrative in December ’16; and then a month later the ridiculously political Intelligence Community Assessment (ICA)  in January ’17; this timing against Assange is too coincidental.
It doesn’t take a deep researcher to see the aligned Deep State motive to control Julian Assange because the Mueller report was dependent on Russia cybercrimes, and that narrative is contingent on the Russia DNC hack story which Julian Assange disputes.
This is critical.  The Weissmann/Mueller report contains claims that Russia hacked the DNC servers as the central element to the Russia interference narrative in the U.S. election. This claim is directly disputed by WikiLeaks and Julian Assange, as outlined during the Dana Rohrabacher interview, and by Julian Assange on-the-record statements.
The predicate for Robert Mueller’s investigation was specifically due to Russian interference in the 2016 election. The fulcrum for this Russia interference claim is the intelligence community assessment; and the only factual evidence claimed within the ICA is that Russia hacked the DNC servers; a claim only made possible by relying on forensic computer analysis from Crowdstrike, a DNC contractor.
The CIA holds a massive conflict of self-interest in upholding the Russian hacking claim.  The FBI holds a massive interest in maintaining that claim.  All of those foreign countries whose intelligence apparatus participated with Brennan and Strzok also have a vested self-interest in maintaining that Russia hacking and interference narrative.
Julian Assange is the only person with direct knowledge of how Wikileaks gained custody of the DNC emails; and Assange has claimed he has evidence it was not from a hack.
This Russian “hacking” claim is ultimately so important to the CIA, FBI, DOJ, ODNI and U.K intelligence apparatus…. Well, right there is the obvious motive to shut Assange down as soon intelligence officials knew the Mueller report was going to be public.
Now, if we know this, and you know this; and everything is cited and factual… well, then certainly AG Bill Barr knows this.
The $64,000 dollar question is: will they say so publicly?

brennan and haspel

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490 Responses to Why John Brennan, Peter Strzok and DOJ Needed Julian Assange Arrested – And Why UK Officials Obliged…

  1. redhotsnowman says:

    it’s about time we brought back focus to assange

    • Dr. Dystopia says:

      But Trump has since disowned the man, which encapsulates my concerns with this presidency; that is, nearly all systems go save that of an ever waxing survellience state.

      • Or did PDJT just distance himself from Assange as he has done with most of those involved.

        • mostlyogauge says:

          PDJT doesn’t distance himself from anybody. That is not his style. What may appear to be distancing himself from someone, to those not in the know, is just not that. PDJT does everything with a plan. His objective is to Make America Great Again. I truly believe that EVERYTHING he does is to that end, and only that end. There are many facets to that single objective, and those facets are tactical, and sometimes somewhat strategic, in nature, but that is his objective.

    • Julia Adams says:

      Someone better act quickly because he could soon die behind bars unless the British government changes its ways, a human rights expert for the United Nations warned Friday.
      Nils Melzer, the U.N. special rapporteur on torture, reiterated concerns about Julian Assange’s well-being as he remains jailed in London pending a U.S. extradition request.
      “Unless the U.K. urgently changes course and alleviates his inhumane situation, Mr. Assange’s continued exposure to arbitrariness and abuse may soon end up costing his life,” Mr. Melzer said in a statement.
      Assange spent roughly seven years living as a political refugee inside the Ecuadorian Embassy in London prior to being ejected in April and promptly arrested by British police. He has been jailed ever since at nearby Belmarsh Prison pending the results of extradition proceedings currently slated to start early next year.

      • lydia00 says:

        They want to present him as mentally unstable.

      • ann says:

        does anyone else recall or cite the source of an article that alleges Mrs. Clinton requesting military people to deploy a drone to kill Julian Assange while he was still living out in the countryside in Great Britain?
        I remember it clearly.
        what have we come to? The damage of knowingly compromising with corrupted actors is akin to appeasement . The pain to our polity and destructive aftereffects go on and on ..
        How do we, as citizens, intervene to halt this cascade of ugliness, all the skews, falsehoods, the vain attempt to regain prestige and save face? The historical record is clear, their legacy is despicable.
        one would think liberation from Resist’s weak conformity with intellectual dishonesty would be a straight up choice and a relief too! an action one could take pride in, rather than shame. cause their children and grandchildren will be clear sighted
        lies dont age well.

      • Patrick Healy says:

        Yes Julia,
        Over here in never never land, our spies and lap dog media are doing their best to destroy Julian and his proof that “those” emails were downloaded by (more than likely) Seith Ritch?
        NOT hacked.
        Our Boris and his spies are NOT your friends.

      • Matt Bracken says:

        Sidebar: Tommy Robinson’s latest stint in Belmarsh Prison included seeing and hearing Assange a few times in passing. My recollection of what Robinson said when he got out is that Assange appears to be in terrible health and may not be intended to survive this ordeal. Another Jeffrey Epstein in the making, or dead of “natural causes.”

        • mostlyogauge says:

          I would bet a dozen Krispee Kreme chocolate-iced custard filled donuts that Julian has a deadman switch of some fashion that will automatically release all of what he has collected over the years. He may be being tortured at this time to get him to reveal that.

    • Mary Hysmith says:

      Assange had some kind of hearing in court maybe 4-6 weeks ago. I read an article where the journalist said he looked terrible, like he was dying. He said that they had taken everything of Assange’s they could get their hands on which raises the question as to whether Assange still has his proof of who hacked the DNC.

  2. redhotsnowman says:

    it’s about time we brought back focus to assange

  3. redhotsnowman says:

    it’s about time we brought back focus to assange

  4. noswamp says:

    Most Patriots have known that the DNC was sabotaged internally by their own folks for years. Assange only confirms this. Will Trump protect him? That is the question. We know the FBI and CIA won’t.

  5. luke says:

    This is probably an oversimplification of things but we all know how the CIA meddles in foreign govt/politics. Why would anyone think that they do not do it at home?

    • Dutchman says:

      The FBI Counterintelligence division, that was exempt from I.G. scrutiny during the Obama years, was the Nexus.
      The CIA is forbidden, by Charter and Statute, from working inside the Territorial U.S.
      So, the created a loophole to exploit. In the MOU signed between the FBI (Mueller, I believe) in 2012, the FBI gets access, for them and their contractors, to the NSA database, which the CIA had.
      In exchange, the CIA gets a station, that CAN operate in the,Territorial U.S., because TECHNICALLY, its not a CIA station, its the Counter-Intel division of the FBI. And, its ‘Station Chief’ is BOTH a CIA agent, AND an FBI agent: Peter Stroxz.
      Makes perfect sense, and I’mbetting thats what the MOU between the FBIand CIA says.

    • ann says:

      My question is What direct evidence do we have to assume the CIA abides by operationa limits?
      given the emerging fact patterns of institutional cultures that condone extralegal conduct, is it reasonable to expect the CIA to abide by our desire for restraint within organizations that intersect in lucrative “matters”, foreign affairs, politics, trillion dollar policy, nat sec, intell, international and domestic stability, USAID ect
      The unregulated, unpunished spate of extracurricular foundation builders & Beltway brats reborn as experts who normally have a PhD tag,or are seasoned brilliant tycoons is ample grounds for skepticism.
      former VP’s, Secretaries of State, Commerce, Justice officials, Comey as Boeing sales “handler for State Dept aircraft.
      Nope. I will never believe or rely on another unverified claim out of the federal or my state government .. how much suffering and destruction has happened because we were & are blocked from oversight ? THESE AGENCIES ARE TICKING TIME BOMBS.

  6. maggiemoowho says:

    I don’t think they will say so publicly, those organizations protect their own.

  7. Eric says:

    His name was Seth Rich.

  8. 300 says:

    From Assange in an interview on dutch TV
    Interviewer: “Do you even know what you’re sitting on?”
    Julian Assange: “WikiLeaks never sits on material. Whistleblowers go to significant efforts to get us material, and often very significant risks. There is a 27 year old, that works for the DNC, who was shot in the back, murdered, just a few weeks ago, for unknown reasons, as he was walking down the street in Washington.”
    The interviewer interjects: “That was just a robbery I believe, wasn’t it?”
    Assange: “No, there is no finding so…”
    Interviewer: “what are you suggesting, what are you suggesting?”
    Assange: “I am suggesting that our sources are… take risks, and they are… they become concerned… uhh to see things occurring… uhh like that.
    Interviewer: “But was he one of your sources then… I mean?”
    Assange: “We don’t comment on who our sources are.”
    Interviewer: “Then why make the suggestion, about a young guy being shot in the streets of Washington?”
    Assange: “Because we have to understand… uhh how high the stakes are, in the United States, and that our sources are… you know, our sources face serious risks, that’s why they come to us so we can protect their anonymity.”
    Interviewer: “But it’s quite something to suggest a murder… that’s basically what you’re doing.”
    Assange: “Well others have suggested… that.”
    “Uhhh we uhh are investigating to understand uhhh what happened uhh in that situation with Seth Rich, I think it is a concerning situation, there is not a conclusion yet, we wouldn’t be willing to state a conclusion, but we are concerned about it. More importantly, umm a variety of WikiLeaks sources are concerned when that kind of thing happens.”

    • Orbanista says:

      Also on Dutch TV (ca. 11 November 2016):
      Interviewer: “I have your new book here; it’s a book about Abraham Lincoln. When he was elected, a civil war erupted in the United States. Is the country as divided now as it was then?”
      Sidney Blumenthal: “Well I think, uhh, we’re in a cold civil war. A civil war without, uhh, violence.”

    • James Carpenter says:

      If you want to be a source for the likes of wikileaks…
      …watch your back. Some people might do some things.

  9. visage13 says:

    President Trump said Crowdstrike and that is when the faux impeachment proceedings began. I know they were planning it long before, probably right after the phone call when Brennan’s cronies on the call heard the word Crowdstrike and panicked. There is no way President Trump is going to let this all get swept under the rug. NONE. I don’t understand why Assange just won’t tell the world the truth. At this point what is there to lose?

    • Beau Geste says:

      Why did PDJT or any of his attorneys refuse to meet with Rohrbacher? Bizarre !1
      Why does PDJT, or any of his attorneys, still refuse to contact assange, or act to prevent his death or mental derangement at the hands of the “deep States” of multiple countries?
      It is inexplicable. (Makes one wonder if republicans had anything to do with the DNC emails ?) Listening to what Rohrbacher had to say could not result in any charge of “obstruction”.
      Why is AG Barr, as AG, still permitting the charges against Assange, which violate our First Amendment? If its OK for the New York Times to acquire the Ellsberg papers, acting in the US, and publish them in the US, isn’t it nuts to assert criminality for publishing foreign-obtained emails in a foreign country? sort of like claiming General Flynn lied by using phony-edited (multi-authored by people not there), belatedly edited 302 memos. just my humble opinion, but there is something very peculiar about both mewler, and his prey PDJT, behaving as if Assange does not exist while the british try to kill him.
      Conan Doyle’s famous detective teaches that after eliminating all the other possibilities, the one remaining explanation, no matter hos improbable, solves the crime. The only remaining explanation is that Assange must have the Epstein tapes !!!! HA ! Mystery Solved !!!

      • Beau Geste says:

        addendum: I understand that the charge against Assange has nothing to do with the hillary/DNC emails.

        • Mary Hysmith says:

          Assange’s charge is like the others. They pulled up Chelsea Mannings old files and twisted things to claim that Assange helped Chelsea hack. It requires some stretch of the imagination but was sufficient to get an arrest warrant and get Assange locked away.

      • The Devilbat says:

        Elementary my dear Watson.

      • Hutzpa says:

        There has to be separation. Just like when POTUS is asked questions about what AG Barr is doing he always states that he hasn’t talked to him. Surely, his daily briefings include the status of what’s being uncovered. The layered separation has to be maintained. I don’t think for one minute that Congressman Rohrbacher was totally ignored. A carefully chosen rep surely has heard and safeguarded that information because releasing the meeting would likely “Epstein” Julian Assange. Assange is credibly kept breathing because they haven’t got his dead man switch.

        • JRD says:

          Pompeo despises Assange. And Trump trusts Pompeo.
          I’ve got big problems with Pompeo. Why hasn’t he drained the swamp?
          1.) Gina Haspel at CIA + the rest of Brennan’s slime that remain at CIA.
          2.) All of the Pajama Boys and FemiNazis that still remain in the State Department.

          • Guffman says:

            I’m wondering if Haspel was not promoted to CIA chief in a deliberate trap, to follow the DS cover-up. She had to know what was going on the whole time… so either she’s part of it (she never blew a whistle on it), or was an unwilling participant who is now working behind the scenes with Durham and Barr.
            Either way, she must know almost everything that went on, and is going on presently. She’s been extremely below the radar since being promoted.

        • geoffg12 says:

          Dana is no longer a Congressman.

          • 1riot1ranger says:

            Totally got ballot harvested. Rock solid D district too. Totally ridiculous what Ronna McDaniel let happen out there

    • Dutchman says:

      Yes, he might as well have said “Blackbriar”, (wouldn’t THAT have been hillarious!). I can just hear the gemale british voice “alert, echelon, we have a “Crowdstrike” reference,…repeat Crowdstrike, level one. Transmitting the call now, confirm reciept!”
      Someone listening in must have shat the proverbial brick!

    • Tom Hansen says:

      Because once he sings, his life is worthless. What he knows is keeping him alive.

      • Sentient says:

        It would b best for both Assange and President Trump if Assange could get refuge in Russia.

        • Mary Hysmith says:

          The impression I have gotten is that Putin has no empathy for people like Assange. He only took in Snowden because Obama canceled his passport leaving him stuck in a Moscow airport unable to leave.

    • Linda K. says:

      We can’t hear Mr. Assange, when he is in solitary, in prison.

    • Mary Hysmith says:

      Barr and Horowitz have been putting all the pieces together. That is the reason for the rush to impeach this close to election. Crowdstrike is connected to Biden’s oil company which are all connected to Soros.

  10. Dixin-Toofar says:

    Yes the 64000 dollar question

  11. JackB says:

    Assange and Snowden are heroes for sacrificing so much personally to allow the American people to know the truth of the perfidy of our Deep State run government.
    How many of us would have the courage to act in the best interests of our republic knowing that the Deep State would extract such a heavy personal price?

  12. ezduzit63 says:

    Great work as always Sundance!

  13. EggsX1 says:

    Why didn’t Assange released his evidence?
    Patrick Byrne former Overstock CEO came public. He lost his company and the media basically ignored his testimonial, but he isn’t rotting in a prison somewhere. By going public, he protected himself from lawfare reprisal.
    I don’t see any cards Assange can play now that he is locked away in some hole for who knows how long. Why didn’t he release his evidence?

    • barnabusduke says:

      The IT world has lots of ways of storing and protecting data (evidence) from discovery until retrieval is necessary. I’m sure there must be several holders of the keys, in case something happens to Julian. Deep state knows this…

      • Dutchman says:

        I heard something, but can’t speak to authenticity of source, that the deepstate infiltrated Wikileaks, and somehow nullified Assanges dead man switch.
        The way he is being treated SEEMS to confirm that ‘they’ aren’t afraid of Julian Assange, any more.
        And of coarse a seperate, related ‘operation was to persuade the leader of Ecuador that is was no longer in their best interests to continue to provide asylum.
        Well, after Epstiens death, and Seth Richs, its pretty clear Mr. Phelps and his ‘team’ really DO exist.
        Or, perhaps Jason Bourne. Mission Impossibles, indeed.

        • Dixie says:

          We don’t even really know if Assange is dead or alive. London must have some serious dungeons where one could die and no one would be the wiser.

          • Dutchman says:

            Pamela Anderson has been visiting him. Last time, month or two ago, she said he didn’t look good. Be surprised if she hadn’t at least,TRIED to appeal to PDJT, but his staff may be trying to block it?

        • EggsX1 says:

          I would like to believe Assange has a dead man switch, but if so, he didn’t really plan this out very well. Wikileaks is supposed to be about making public government machinations. If he is hiding information to use as leverage for himself, then he is doing similar things as deep states do. And now that he is locked in a hole, any evidence he provides will be questioned as being manufactured by a desperate person.
          Going public is the best defense. Afterward, if you get arrested, people will recognize that it was a revenge play by outed governments. The deep state uses this play all the time – commit crimes, become a ‘whistle blower’, then accuse anyone that touches you of being a partisan.
          Sadly, it appears his chance has passed. All we have now is conjecture on what he could have known.

    • WSB says:

      Assange has had kill switches. Only from what I have read, but nonetheless, it is an insurance policy.

  14. Carrie says:

    He’s being held in solitary confinement right now. Convicted murderers get better treatment in the UK. It makes me think Boris Johnson is in alliance with May to protect the GCHQ’s involvement in the PDJT coup. Whereas Farage would be less so.

    • ann says:

      Our own governmemt. We own this, but I have NO IDEA how to stop the EVIL.
      Never anticipated being radicalized . It’s just not like who I am, yet I cannot unknow and look away. To do so would violate how I was raised, and betray the generation’s .before me
      What to do, what to do?

      • Bluto Ruffian says:

        Ann, Keep doing what you are doing! The kill switch is not broken. Assange is one of the VERY FEW who keeps his word about “till DEATH DO US PART”…
        Where is the the 380lb gorilla (KimDotCom – holder of copy of the KEY)…? When he dies, the trigger will be Asange’s death and the fallout will “cover the earth”
        The kill switch is in good hands.

        • ann says:

          Bluto, I will.
          know who KimDotCom is, but
          Kill switches, net servers, IT security is WAY over my head. Thank you, I
          Confess I get emotional re Julian, Flynn. Kavanaugh, etc. Mama instincts. .
          Good to know. ♥️

          • jello333 says:

            The “kill switch” is pretty much an insurance policy, and Wikileaks is known for doing that when something really big is at stake. Way back when, they distributed an “insurance file” to people that was massively encrypted, worthless… UNLESS the “key” was released to open it, which would only happen if X,Y,Z occurred. It never did, so the key was never released/needed. And all the people still in possession of that file — like me 🙂 — are still wondering what’s in there.

  15. Ghost says:

    I have no opinion

  16. Linus in W.PA. says:

    I think we’re going to have some joy this week…….

  17. TradeBait says:

    If nothing happens to them for what they did and attempted to do, then nothing happened. So there’s that. We the People know that Assange holds truths that need revealed. Time to make it happen.
    There is a really a simple solution. Let all truths be told and demonstrated with documents for all of us to actually see. Let We the People know it all. We can deal with the fall out and take it all over from there. The bad things happen if the DOJ chooses to hide some of it or let the offenders skate.
    Failure to acknowledge that there are two American cultures now leads is dangerous. There are leftist/globalist/communists on one side – then there there is the rest of us. There can be no common ground or compromise between the two groups. Allowing the leftists to co-exist leads to all sorts of mischief. Bipartisanship is fake and just a code word for losing. If necessary, declare martial law, shutter the FBI, and bring in the US Marshalls to start over. Time to clip the wings of the clowns while they are at it as well.

    • Patience says:

      Can’t believe Assange doesn’t have a back up plan for his information to get out to the public. Hopefully he does, and it will.

    • Remington says:

      Trade….I agree and have said so for some time. Bring in the Msrshalls and lock these creatures up. It’s not like we don’t know who they are. We need to act like this is sedition and put an end to this insanity.
      Let the chips fall where they may.

  18. HorseWhisperer says:

    But didn’t you hear the other day ex acting CIA Director John McLaughlin saying that the CIA were perhaps one of the few institutions in the US Government that’s “institutionally committed to objectivity and to tell the truth”.
    How he managed to say that, whilst at the same time championing the deep-state, is beyond belief.

  19. Anonymous says:

    Makes zero sense. Assange has never given up sources before, even when it would help him or someone. It’s part of his agreement with people who come to him. Something he sticks to. Plus he could have (or could still, right now) give up a source, post incarceration.

  20. Justin Green says:

    Assange pretty much said Seth Rich was the leaker. Further, Wiki put out a $25,000 reward for information on his killer. Frankly, the $25,000 was too little a reward given the stakes. $2.5 million might have made someone come forward.

    • Revelation says:

      Are you kidding? Speaking up is a death sentence.
      Seth Rich proved that.

      • Guffman says:

        Seth Rich didn’t speak up. He secretly transferred the data from the DNC server(s) to a thumb drive, to secretly pass on to wikileaks/Assange. There’s a possibility it would have been safer for him if he DID indeed speak up publicly.

  21. technerd says:

    The corruption is deep in DC and it is bipartisan. Barr is from the swamp and will have a natural inclination to protect it. Durham is by reputation a pit bull tasked with uncovering all the information that he can about what happened and making the case. Combined, they both will end up with enough evidence to burn the CIA and FBI to the ground. IMO, the final narrative will be limited to a select few that will be offered up as a sacrifice behind a carefully constructed narrative that doesn’t destroy the reputation of either the CIA or FBI. Will this threading of the needle satisfy the need for justice? Barr is going to disappoint a lot of people no matter which path he chooses. This may explain his recent “let the chips fall where they may” comment.

    • Dutchman says:

      IMHO, by word and action, the ‘small group’ have sent a clear signal they are unwilling to be thrown under the bus.
      Each has shown they have a big mouthpiece, by releasing books and/or getting facetime on the boob tube.
      I believe we have witnessed a very public blackmail and pay off. Comey, Stroxz, McCabe, Brennan, Clapper.
      “Protect us, get us good gigs, funnel $ to us thru go fundme, book deals, etc. Provide us with lawyers, (which is a two way street. By providing the small group members with lawyers, the blackmail-ees can be apprised that the small group members aren’t flipping, etc.)
      The Big group are not necesarily a large group, although it is, but its a POWERFUL group. This group is keeping a lid on things, except I personally don’t think this CAN all be contained, nor can it be diffused, as has worked in the past.
      You know, investigate to exonerate. Lance the boil, have an investigation,..”at this point, what,difference does it make?” And move on.
      They are out of options, and falling back to their original coarse; removing PDJT from the Oval office, for OBSTRUCTION.
      And they actually think we don’t know the difference between “Obstruction of Justice”, which IS a ‘high crime’, and “Obstructing” (by refusing to cooperate) a phoney, rigged Congressional investigation.
      WHY PDJT has apperently continued to avoid Assange like the plague, even AFTER Mueller investigation was completed IS a mystery. During Mueller, I can see how ANY contact/communication would feed into the,Russia narrative, since media and deep state continue to lie that wikileaks is a Russian front.
      But, AFTER Mueller, WHY no contact?
      And, why no declassify? PDJT still theoretically could declassify everything.
      Waiting till closer to the,election, of holding back for impeachment defence?
      Don’t buy the ‘ongoing investigations’ explanation; the bad guys,all KNOW whats in the documents. Declass and release doesn’t effect such investigations.

      • I disagree with Dutchman often, but this is one of his best posts.

        • Dutchman says:

          Well thank you. Disagreement is fine, and I actually welcome it.
          How will I know when my thinking is off base, unless someone points it out to me.
          None of “Jane, you ignorant slut!”, but a cogent, logical point by point, is good. And, when we are talking about OPINIONS, remembering that old saw about everyone HAS one, and some people ARE one, is always good.
          Anyway, thank you for the kudos. Coming from someone who often disagrees with me, makes it all the sweeter!

    • Dixie says:

      I think that’s a lousy conclusion for an attorney general to state out loud and brazenly. Lessens my trust in the man.

  22. Seneca the Elder says:

    One of the best things that ever happened in my political (junkie) life was to discover the magnificent Sundance and the CTH. It is truly the gift that keeps on giving as SD provides some of the best and most outstanding research, analysis and writing that’s available online. He is one of the most remarkable journalists I’ve ever encountered, and there’s not even a reward that is worthy of his efforts.
    That being said, one would hope that whoever the Powers That Be are who are on our side and that of our President Trump’s, would use Sundance’s work as their guide. Hell, I’d go so far to say his articles should be their BIBLE.
    There is absolutely no reason for Barr, Durham, et al to reinvent the wheel. Sundance has done all the work. They should use it.

    • Lottacats says:


    • ann says:

      treehouse , Sundance saved my sanity. ad rem curates , extra needful for the gullible (me), plus a wealth of trustworthy fact based archives and knowledgeable wise contributors
      knowing so many others think deeply and realistically about our country, not runnng away like chickens. folks to ride the river with. ,?

  23. Reloader says:

    Did I read through it all too quickly? I did not see any reference as to whether Assange is still alive at this point …

  24. Kevin O'Shea says:

    all of this is so hard to believe because we assume there are good people – white hats in the swamp that will stand up and tell the truth – sadly – they know they will get thrown under the bus
    BTW – 60 Minutes does segment on Maria Butina and never mentions Byrne – I watched and I still can’t understand what she did to get thrown in jail – its like we live in Russia or China or Iran – terrible

    • Doppler says:

      I watched and had the same reaction, Kevin.
      Also of interest was Leslie Stahl’s doubt about Maria’s bona fides in claiming her dad taught her to love guns hunting in Siberia. That lacked credibility because, “Com’n, Putin’s not going to let ordinary people run around with guns.”
      (He’s a dictator! No dictator wants an armed populous! Like in the US, uh, oh, never mind, got confused there.)

      • Arrest Soros says:

        Russians own millions of guns.
        They even modify their own to full auto etc.
        Russians are all over Youtube with gun videos.
        Ruissia is awash in guns, even more so than the US.

    • WSB says:

      Kevin, I saw the 60 Minutes Butina interview and almost threw up! Total fabrication of what really happened and no half truths even.

    • Mueller cited Butina with failure to comply with FARA regulations.
      Butina was released from prison last week, after serving her time, and was immediately deported back to Russia. I don’t know if she’s alive, and if she is, how long she will remain. I wouldn’t want to be her.

  25. Gerkmonster says:

    “The $64,000 dollar question is: will they say so publicly?:
    That’s not a $64,000 question…. I would put it closer to 6.4 Trillion dollars.

  26. Gerkmonster says:

    “The $64,000 dollar question is: will they say so publicly?:
    That’s not a $64,000 question…. I would put it closer to 6.4 Trillion dollars.

  27. Troublemaker10 says:

    The last I heard, no one has even ever talked to Assange. That has always troubled me. Never made sense.

    • WES says:

      Troublemaker10:. I suspect everyone knows that if they talk o Assange they are as good as “dead”!

    • Beau Geste says:

      TM10, you and me both. THis has troubled me from the very beginning, too. Mewler was tasked with millions of $ and enormous numbers of investigators to find out where the DNC emails came from. They were published by wikileaks. Wikileaks said it was not the russians. the DEMs private contractor crowdstrike had a draft report (not even a final report) it was the russians, which was disputed by former CIA Binney.
      The super-sleuth FBI never contacted wikileaks, or subpoenaed and seized the allegedly-hacked democrat server(s) for investigation. The super-investigator mewler never asked wikileaks, Never talked to Rohrbacher. Never contacted Assange to offer the same non-prosecution deals they freely handed out to ALL hillary’s friends like popcorn at an auto repair shop. Very bizarre. More than just incompetence, because we know the FBI can subpoena and seize evidence in the dead of night from republicans.
      And, we know that IG Horowitz, tasked with investigating the origin of claims in the FISA that russians hacked the DEMS, has ignored wikileaks and Assange (even thought he apparently interviewed steele). How can the IG issue any kind of honest report while ignoring wikileaks and its repudiation of russian origin? He can’t.

    • Patrick Healy says:

      No Troublemarker10,
      A politician -Republican from California (I know hard to believe!) Spoke with him in Ecuador’s embassy in London years ago.
      He says he reported the contents directly to President Trump.
      So keep the faith, your president is a smart man and I wish we had someone with a tenth of his brain over here to drain our swamp.
      I still believe in God and justice will be delivered – after many trials and tribulations.
      God bless Sundance and he had better watch his back.

  28. The Red Pill says:

    Rumor has it that Rod Rosenstein was heavily involved in the Seth Rich hit. He was playing both sides and did not want the contents of the USB drive to be known.
    Another rabbit hole to dive down…

  29. Gerkmonster says:

    The $64,000 dollar question is: will they say so publicly?
    That’s more like a 6.4 Trillion dollar question

  30. Gerkmonster says:

    The $64,000 dollar question is: will they say so publicly?
    That’s more like a 6.4 Trillion dollar question

  31. MitchSteel says:

    No, Barr will not make it public…his job is to clean up what we know. Assange and his information will not see the light of day.

  32. Doug Amos says:

    So many truths exposed; futile trying to get them back in the bottle. The criminals have already lost; only the fools can save them; temporarily..

    • Dutchman says:

      Doug Amos;
      You express my view, succinctly. Its an impossible task.
      I visualise a ‘cartoon’, although don’t know where the shoe is.
      A HUGE damn, like Hoover damn, representing the truth. It has holes in its surface,..and Barr and Durham are hanging from ropes, trying to plug the holes, like the little dutch boy.
      But, they are using all fingers and thumbs, their nose and toungue, maybe even one additional appendage, and then 3 more holes start leaking.
      They can’t prevent the water from pouring out, and dribbling down where it will start to undermine the foundation of the dam, so that eventually the dam fails, and a tsunami of water washes down in a hundred foot wave, flooding the swamp, in the valley below.
      Ah, THATS where THE SHOE comes into it, along with its owner, Pelosi, McConnell and all the rest.
      Totally overwhelmed and done in by THE TRUTH.

  33. cj says:

    My question is: how is it that Assange is still alive???

  34. 335blues says:

    “back in Russia Deputy AG Karapetyan fell out of a helicopter to his death (just before it crashed).”
    So does Karapetyan count toward The Clinton’s trail of bodies? Has Butina bit the dust yet?
    Has Assange been incarcerated at Metropolitan Correctional Centre in Manhatten?
    Is he watched by regular guards?
    Is he using cloth sheets?
    Has he “attempted suicide”?
    Is Assange still alive?

  35. WES says:

    And yet Barr does nothing! So sad .
    So far there are no signs the DoJ has even noticed that they have a new AG!

    • Doppler says:

      I repeat my question to any DOJ lawyers here. When a federal judge considers a motion to hold a AUSA in criminal contempt for withholding Brady material, as in the Flynn case, don’t his/her supervisors up to and including the AG get briefed, and face accountability for not correcting any discrepancies?

      • William H Warrick III MD says:

        Nothing matters except the Metadata of the email leak.

      • Leon0112 says:

        Follow on questions: 1) Could Barr/Durham be leaking enough information to Powell for Sullivan to find the Special Counsel prosecutors of Flynn in contempt for not providing Brady material? 2) Could Barr use the contempt ruling to fire everyone associated with the Flynn prosecution? 3) Could Barr use the contempt ruling to justify declassifying all of the material requested by Powell over the objections of the FBI/CIA/swamp?

  36. ezduzit63 says:

    We also had a sheep dipped Sater who targeted Trump through Cohen.Sater & Cohen long time buddies from their youth I believe were part of the initial Alpha Bank tie in. As it went south Sater pushed Cohen for the Trump Tower project to be negotiated for which Cohen finally blew him off. Millian fits in with this scenario as well but I am not sure where?
    Assanges release of Vault 7 showed a CIA program called the Grasshopper
    At the time Adm. Rogers figured out how deep this was beyond a TAO Training Exercise the NSA logged the “About Query’s” of possibly Brennan/Clappers other Server setting up Alpha Bank and noted this Breach in his report that was buried.Brennan I think used Fusion Center Training(DHS found hacking Georgia Elections) to skirt FISC while their other Server pumped..not only did they try the Alpha Bank for blackmail but used the Software on the DNC.
    Just my thinking…

    • Dixie says:

      “Grasshopper is a software tool used to build custom installers for target computers running Microsoft Windows operating systems,” states the CIA user’s guide.
      The best way to describe Grasshopper is that it’s a delivery system designed to implant and enable “payload” programs and features built by the CIA. Think of Grasshopper as the B-2 Stealth bomber of malware. Grasshopper really doesn’t do anything but carry a payload and deliver it on target.
      The payload, by the way, can be anything from “deliver the pizza” – better known as surveillance and spyware tools such as key loggers or disk data dumps – all the way to a real offensive software tool designed to destroy anything controlled by the Windows computer and perhaps even kill someone.

  37. LKAinLA says:

    The above pic of Assange is heartbreaking. My prayer is he is ok and one day be free with peace. Brennan is pure evil.

  38. ATheoK says:

    “One British official with knowledge of Barr’s wish list presented to London commented that “it is like nothing we have come across before, they are basically asking, in quite robust terms, for help in doing a hatchet job on their own intelligence services”

    What the British Intelligence Community is basically stating they do not believe Intelligence Community agents or officials can be treasonous seditionists.
    If they’re catching flak, they are over the target!

  39. livefreeordieguy says:

    This guy, Ed Butowski, has a lot to say about Seth Rich… He seems like he’s legit, but I have no idea… He has had contact with Rich’s parents and he has a story to tell… But few let him tell it. Is he nuts or does he know something? He seems determined to be heard.

  40. Skidroe says:

    It would be pretty cool if ALL pro-Trumpers just stopped paying taxes. Biggest demonstration ever! PROTEST!

    • GP says:

      That would get their attention. Just 4-5% would do it. But you’d better be prepared to follow-through-whatever the cost or action

  41. Hanuman says:

    What is stopping Assange from Public disclosure of evidence he claims to possess?
    Fear of being Epsteined?

    • livefreeordieguy says:

      He’s slowly being Epsteined now as best I can tell… We will wake up to the news one day soon.

  42. islandpalmtrees says:

    Sundance writes: “The predicate for Robert Mueller’s investigation was specifically due to Russian interference in the 2016 election. The fulcrum for this Russia interference claim is the intelligence community assessment; and the only factual evidence claimed within the ICA is that Russia hacked the DNC servers; a claim only made possible by relying on forensic computer analysis from Crowdstrike, a DNC contractor.”
    Is it possible that Crowdstrike took a more central role? One they need to hide.
    Sections 704 and 705(b) of FISA using the tool FlySpeed in CrowdStrike. . . from November 1,
    2015 to May 1, 2016.” id, at 2-3 (footnote omitted). Based on that examination, “NSA estimates
    questions about the propriety of using of FlySpeed to query FISA data While the government
    reports that it is unable to provide a reliable estimate of the number of non-compliant queries

  43. owtolunch says:

    Assange back in prison until extradition hearing in February…He was in court oct 21…
    ” the district judge Vanessa Baraitser refused to extend the expected proceedings and told Assange his full extradition case would begin on 25 February.
    Later, she asked Assange if he had understood events in court. “Not really. I can’t think properly,” he appeared to say. “I don’t understand how this is equitable. This superpower had 10 years to prepare for this case and I can’t access my writings. It’s very difficult where I am to do anything but these people have unlimited resources.
    “They are saying journalists and whistleblowers are enemies of the people. They have unfair advantages dealing with documents. They [know] the interior of my life with my psychologist. They steal my children’s DNA. This is not equitable what is happening here.” ”
    News reports indicated he was confused and had trouble speaking and did not look well at all…

    • jello333 says:

      President Trump… Don, I like you a lot. Not only do I think you have the potential to be one of the greatest world leaders ever, but from all indications you’re a really decent human being too. Which is why I’m baffled that so far you seem to have done nothing to alleviate Julian Assange’s physical and mental torture. Oh, I can think of a few reasons you might have to play it a certain way for now, till all the pieces fall into place and you begin the take-down of the conspirators. I HAVE TO believe you’ve got something in mind. Because otherwise…
      … well, no matter what happens I’ll still support you as president, and will work to get you re-elected. But if you allow Julian to die despite having the power to stop what’s being done to him… well, yeah I’ll still support you as president, I just won’t like you nearly as much as a person. 🙁

      • Dixie says:

        Jello, as good as President Trump is to people in need, I have to believe he has a very good reason for not helping Assange. Hopefully this will change before they manage to let him die in a London dungeon or wherever he is.

      • polk8dot says:

        Thank you, Jello333. You’ve just expressed perfectly what’s in my own heart.

  44. Republicanvet91 says:

    ““One British official with knowledge of Barr’s wish list presented to London commented that “it is like nothing we have come across before, they are basically asking, in quite robust terms, for help in doing a hatchet job on their own intelligence services””.”
    Yeah, I don’t really care what the Brits think we are doing regarding an investigation into how any of our federal agencies attempted to frame our President. As long as they cooperate.
    Thanks for detailing the list of spies Sundance, and who they were tasked with. Most reporting mentions one person against one target, which minimizes the scale of what was being done.
    Hopefully Durham is asking why all of these seemingly unknown to each other people were talking about Hillary’s emails.
    Which raises the question…is this what a normal counter-intel investigation looks like? Isn’t that what Comey claimed they were doing? Conducting a counter-intel investigation? Do they do that by running intel connected spies at lower level campaign aides and only asking about emails? That appears to be what was reported back to their handlers. If this was a normal counter-intel investigation, would they not be reporting other stuff besides Hillary’s yoga routines?

  45. WSB says:

    60 Minutes created a fake story by Leslie Stahl on Butina tonight, with Demers from the State Department. This interview was while Butina was in prison. She is of course out now.
    Something must be dropping soon. Why else would CBS run this? Obviously, this interview was run earlier and kept until its rollout tonight. Cripes, the deep media is everywhere.

  46. William H Warrick III MD says:

    The problem for the CIA, FBI, DOJ, ODNI is that the Metadate shows clearly it was a Download to a Thumb Drive or CD-Rom and not a Hack. Brennan et al are screwed. You need to talk to Bill Binney and Ray McGovern of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity to understand this fact. Roger Stone has am affidavit from bill Binney in his defense. I am a Veteran of the Army Security Agency and have the same MOS as Bill so I understand this completely.

    • Sentient says:

      We’ve known that for years – fat lot of good it’s done us. Seth Rich leaked the emails. The CIA killed him. As with Scalia’s murder, Rich’s family was intimidated into silence (Seth has a twin brother who hasn’t been murdered yet.) The CIA killed Epstein. The CIA killed Michael Hastings. They probably killed Breitbart. They killed William Colby. JFK. Vince Foster. And people want to talk about laws that supposedly hinder the CIA. Ha.

  47. Sentient says:

    If the president issued a full and unconditional pardon, could he be released fast enough to get whisked off to Russia – probably the only country earth where he’ll be safe? He could be a truth teller from Russia.

    • ann says:

      I may very well be confused, but: my understanding is that
      julian’s wiki leaks released a large archive documenting US gov, transfer of domestic surveillance technology to Russia.
      If so, Russia would not be a friendly destination.
      The DNC is invested in portraying Wikileaks as Russian. I don’t believe that, based.on the facts & actions according to my limited knowledge.
      I explored some of it, but am a tech knucklehead.
      – back in Obama first term??,

  48. islandpalmtrees says:

    Will IG Michael Horowitz FISA Report tell us more about Crowdstrike and in turn the DNC hacking?
    Sundnce writes: Everyone is aware that IG Michael Horowitz is looking at the Carter Page FISA application and potential misrepresentations to the FISC; that’s the “FISA court” part. However, no-one has even hinted that anyone in government might be looking at the FBI abuse of the NSA database; and/or the outlined surveillance violations by Judge Rosemary Collyer; which would fall under the “FISA act” part. Interesting word choices. WATCH:

  49. JohnCasper says:

    The CIA is worse than a rabid dog and is way beyond salvation.

  50. Hanuman says:

    Do we even need evidence in Assange possession?
    We already have analysis of download speed to disprove remote hack in.

  51. JohnCasper says:

    “Now, if we know this, and you know this; and everything is cited and factual… well, then certainly AG Bill Barr knows this.
    The $64,000 dollar question is: will they say so publicly?”

    Dear AG William Barr, cc.John Durham
    Decency, security and liberty alike demand that government officials shall be subjected to the same rules of conduct that are commands to the citizen. In a government of laws, existence of the government will be imperiled if it fails to observe the law scrupulously. Our Government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the Government becomes a lawbreaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy.
    – Justice Brandeis, Olimstead v. United States 277 U.S. 438 (1928)

  52. Mac says:

    A good analysis, but I have a couple of differing opinions.
    The first is on the importance of Strzok to the conspiracy. Strzock was not a major planner or player. He was essentially tasked with being the communications link between the various conspirators. This was done to eliminate an electronic or physical paper trail. Of course, he and Page turned out to be the Boris and Natasha of clandestine operations and actually created a journal of the entire conspiracy and all the actors.
    Carter Page was most likely NOT a target of OCONUS operations. I say this, because he was never in play, in that capacity. He was a previous asset of both the FBI and CIA who conveniently gained access to the Trump Campaign when the NSA surveillance had been terminated by Adm. Rogers. And, the FBI out and out lied about his status as a foreign agent and failed to mention that he was a well known US Government asset. Also, our friend Strzok mentioned that they were going to burn an asset, just about the time the Page warrant was obtained.
    Now, Assange is important for two reasons. The first is that he knows who gave Wikileaks the DNC info and that it was not an internet hacker. This puts a number of very important people at risk. Also, There is a very good chance that Wikileaks may have other damaging information. Information which certain interests want to find and or contain. There is a possibility that this information might well represent a nuclear option. Keeping Assange under wraps gives interested parties a chance to locate this information while still exercising a measure of control over the greater Wikileaks organization.
    Wheels within wheels. Try to keep your heads out of the weeds or you will lose sight of the big picture.

    • Newhere says:

      What does it mean “keep him under wraps” and how does that involve a “measure of control” over Wikileaks the organization? We have no idea who’s directly controlling Assange’s fate, but no one with authority has lifted a finger on his behalf. All evidence (as opposed to speculation) is that he’s suffering, and his physical and mental health are deteriorating. The DOJ has lodged charges against him — if that is actually to “keep him under wraps” (as opposed to the manifest purpose, which is to try him for crimes) it’s a thuggish and barbaric and unethical way to do so. Wikileaks has a new CEO and isn’t affected by the charges against Assange. Whatever “big picture” is alluded to here seems to be one involving a lot of assumptions for which we do not have evidence.
      Sundance’s point is to keep us focused on evidence.

      • Heisenberg says:

        While I applaud the great work that Sundance has done, pieces these details together for years now, I wonder how much it all matters anymore? We have all been led to believe that “Justice is Right Around the Corner!” and that the “Deep State is About to Be Taken Down!” many, many, many times. I simply do not have any confidence that Obama, Hillary, Brennan, Comey, Rice, Jarrett, Yates, Lynch, Clapper, will be held accountable. Not to mention the scores of crooks and traitors in Congress, and the thousands of Obama holdover soldiers in the CIA, FBI, DOS, DOJ, and other agencies that are part of the Deep State. So far: No arrests. No charges. No prosecutions. I know. “It’s coming soon!” I just don’t believe it anymore.

        • RJ says:

          That kid’s song “Mommy will come” seems to ring a bell for me for I too have waited and waited to see any needle movement toward justice. Hear a lot of words, seen a lot of anger…smoke and mirrors abound in Washington.
          Brennan has always been Obama’s chief snake (IMO), the guy charged with doing the dirty work. Look at that man, do you think he thrives with such efforts? Comey is just a semi-smart college boy who wanted to hang within the Ciinton sphere.
          Once the democrats killed the reputation of J. Edgar the FBI was ripe for a takeover, it only needed someone who was determined to do that task…enter Obama and his crew. Keep in mind Obama’s dirty tricks back when he was coming from Chicago…see a pattern here? Recall those 600 FBI files Hillary got entangled with years back. Think she wanted control of that agency?
          The only hope I have left is that Barr and Durham both know they will need an “air tight case” if they intend to play hardball in Washington. Time is not on their side nor ours.
          The clock is ticking.
          The democrats have spent so much energy along with their buddies in the press haranguing the average voting citizen with such negative attacks on President Trump that it is starting to resemble Bush 2 where votes comes in against Trump just to get this game over with,,,sadly!

        • Jederman says:

          True indeed, but the other element of this DS “resistance” and coup attempt is that no future R president can EVER trust the fed bureaucracy in it’s current form. He/she would do so at their peril.
          The Lefty’s can use the approved messaging about “guarding the constitution” or stand in front of congress rambling about impeachment with a poster of a large American flag but it DMS.
          The Left/DS has thrown down, they’re in the open now, and they insist that things will done their way or they will “resist” and sneak, backstab, gossip, leak… . The Left/DS is now dictating what policies are acceptable regardless of who is the president. Non-compliance results in resistance and removal.
          They can not be reasoned with. They are not contrite, they think they have it all figured out. I don’t think it would be unreasonable at this point to polygraph every DS bureaucrat and boot those who prefer their self interest and ideology over their oath of office.
          In addition, and unfortunately, EVERY obama appointee and every ideologically driven employee must be fired. They are not owed a job in gvt. The country doesn’t need the friction. What the country needs is a professional fed workforce. Not a bunch of backstabbing, self righteous, overpaid and worthless resistors.

          • mike says:

            What we need is less of any federal forces. Fire them all. They can’t behave themselves, they hate our US masses as much as any enemy.
            I hate to think of the big three, US, Russia, China, that Russia’s government is the least dangerous one, primarily because of least budget and distance ….

      • Seneca the Elder says:

        New here- agree with you 100% about long suffering Assange and can’t believe NO ONE from our side can help him. The man is being tortured to death right in clear sight so to speak. How is it that he can’t get help from some international organization even?
        This has bothered me for a long time, it’s a disgrace. Also, is Manafort still wasting away in solitary? It just isn’t right what’s happening to these men.

      • old white guy says:

        Assange must be the most dangerous man in the world. He must know everything about everything. heck, and here I thought President Trump was the most dangerous man in the world. I know he is very dangerous for democrats and the communists in their party. Oh well, who really cares.

      • ITdude says:

        Assange has, on many occasions, talked about encrypted torrents available through dark web, or through regular Internet. The file(s) contain highly damaging information. If anything happens to him, he just releases the private key, and anyone can decrypt.

      • frances says:

        Regarding the apparent lack of support from Wikileaks, you may recall that the prior CEO died, Assange’s lawyer was pushed in front of a train and all the people who had appeared on its masthead were replaced in a very short period of time. It is now IMO a “honeypot” completely compromised and its sole function is to trap the unwary.
        I also share the opinion of Jim Stone that Assange was spirited out of the Embassy just after the visit by Pam Anderson, was held/tortured for the past several years (which explains why he didn’t ever appear again on the embassy balcony) and was then dropped back off at the Embassy in a state of complete mental disarray (hence the mental patient behavior) just prior to his arrest.
        And re your question of; why no support? That is not entirely true, he is represented by an excellent law firm and Craig Murray has been writing about him and on his behalf. There is also a go fund me page but it is a curious one, the number of donations and amount rocked around, making little sense.
        If you want to help him IMO, donate directly to the law firm and to Murray.

      • vrajavala says:

        I am praying that beneath the “cover story” of Julian Assange being so badly treated, that there is a better story
        It may be that it is disinformation, otherwise, tge “Deep State”, thinking that there was any co-operation between tge DOJ and Julian, would cause tge Deep State to take out JA

        • icehole3 says:

          I don’t think Assange is in deep state’s hands, he would’ve been Epsteined by now. They DS doesn’t care if anyone thinks they killed Epstein or not they just do what needs to be done.

      • Mac says:

        The US and UK, and a number of other players, needed to keep control of Assange and sequester him. The PTB do not know exactly what information Wikileaks has. They do not know where it is. And, they do not know who has access to it. This information is potentially nuclear in nature. Once released. it could prove catastrophic to certain interests. However, once released, it loses it value to Wikileaks and Assange. Blackmail material is rendered useless upon being made public.So, the PTB keep a margin of control over Wikileaks by sequestering Assange and at the same time limit his control over that amorphous organization. And, they buy time to track down other members of the group and possibly obtain the information which it possesses.
        Now, about the “big picture” and staying out of the weeds. The big picture here is not Assange and Wikileaks. It is not the actions of the US and the UK against that organization. The big picture is that a goodly portion of the entire IC community of the Western World, was mobilized against a US Presidential candidate. It involved extremely extra-legal actions and the willing cooperation of several foreign governments, if not the knowledge of their elected officials. Wikileaks and Assange are an extremely minor footnote to that operation and is largely one which triggered the whole thing.
        We have a mountain of evidence that the US government was mining the NSA data base for political purposes. We have a huge mountain of evidence that HRC knowingly violated the law with her homegrown server and the use of unauthorized communication devices, her Blackberries. We have a mountain of evidence that the Clinton foundation was laundering money on behalf of foreign interests. We have mountain of evidence that the heads of the CIA, FBI, DOJ and State departments were all engaged in an extra-legal attack upon a Presidential candidate and then a President-elect and President. We have a mountain of evidence that several foreign government agencies were directly involved in these activities and that certain IC agreements with those allies were used to gain intelligence on said candidate, improperly if not illegally. And, we know evidence exists that the then President of the US, Barry Soetoro, was most likely informed of these activities [Nunes was privy to WH documents, before they disappeared to a warehouse in Chicago and was subsequently the target of an attempt to remove him from his position on the House Intel Committee]. But, this evidence is almost uniformly ignored by the people in positions of authority. We have identified a large number of important people in the last Administration who were involved in this and, still, no criminal charges have been proffered. We also have an wholly unsubstantiated claim that Russian hackers gained access to the DNC servers and downloaded information. No evidence exists for this belief, yet the PTB uniformly accept it as gospel. That is the big picture. the 800# gorilla in the room. And, there is ample evidence to support it. But, apparently every government official in the room is carrying a white cane and following a seeing eye dog. No one wants to admit it is there.
        So, keep your eye on the Big Picture and do not allow yourself to get too caught up in minutiae. Assange is largely a sideshow. .

    • swamph8er says:

      I’m really curious about why Sundance is recently avoiding the topic of Carter Page being a spy and how the FBI takes out FISAs on our own spies to abuse the FISA progeam.

      • The Demon Slick says:

        I think it’s because we don’t have any actual evidence of it in the public record. I know that goofy bastard is a spy, and you know it, and maybe Sundance knows it, but we haven’t seen any documents or transcripts that you can point to and say “aha!”. All of Sundance’s articles focus on things that can be proven, and the documents that prove it. Well maybe not 100% absolutely all the time, but mostly.

    • Tazok says:

      I agree that Strzok is overstated. Bongino thinks Lisa Page’s testimony proves Brennan deceived Comey with double backing on Steele Intel. The CIA/the FBI are competitors, not close cooperators (marriage of convenience).
      How would that work if Strzok knew both halves? More likely he was a runner for Brennan but not privy to his shenanigans.

      • Ris_Eruwaedhiel says:

        It’s been argued that while Strzok was canned by the fbi, he’s still employed by the cia and presumably still drawing a paycheck. If so, I’m sure that’s a relief to his wife Melissa Hodgman, associate director of sec enforcement since October 2016. The woman he supposedly cheated on isn’t the sole breadwinner. They have two college-age kids and sending them to prestigious schools would b pricy. I doubt he even collected unemployment because be was fired with cause.

    • Trump2016!! says:

      They weren’t necessarily looking for C. Page to a target, if you look at the whole story they were looking to attach as many names to the fake scam as they could, which furthered their narrative.
      As if you look at anyone of the Trump people who got caught up in this, not a single charge or crime related to Russia, Yup, that’s right, not a single one.

      • zimbalistjunior says:

        thats because the only actual crime that could have been committed by the trump campaign was participating in the actual hacking and there is tons of evidence that prove that they had no idea of any such hacking before it happened. if it happened.
        all the ‘evidence’ brought to be used against the campaign ie the june 9 trump tower meeting actually proves the above point.
        any assistance with dissemination of said info (if it happened) is completely legal. see pentagon papers.
        also there is no such thing as conspiracy to defraud voters

  53. islandpalmtrees says:

    Our President would not be asking for information on CrowdStrike in the Ukraine, and the location of a Democratic National Committee server, if he did not think their was a real connection. So did CrowdStrike move a logical copy of the server instead of investigating a hack?
    Written by: By Eileen Sullivan Sept. 25, 2019
    “President Trump in July asked the president of Ukraine to “do us a favor” by looking into an American cybersecurity firm, CrowdStrike, and the location of a Democratic National Committee server that Mr. Trump said was believed to be in Ukraine’s possession.”

    • Newhere says:

      Yeah, but if our President is having to bring it up on a diplomatic call with a new Ukrainian President, what does that say about what Barr is doing? It shouldn’t have to come to that….

      • RAC says:

        PDJT knew his call was being monitored and if it had been his wish he could have used clandestine ways of contacting the Ukraine. It puts me in mind of a dentist with that horrible pointy steel pick, and he mentioned both Biden and Crowdstrike, almost like he wanted to make sure he hit a nerve. I feel it was done for a reason, as yet unknown, but it certainly got some reaction.

        • David A says:

          “Julian Assange is the only person with direct knowledge of how Wikileaks gained custody of the DNC emails; and Assange has claimed he has evidence it was not from a hack.”
          My 64k question is; “Has the DOJ already questioned Assange, and if not why not, and if so what did the learn and when will the arrests start?
          At this point the lack of arrests and indictments ( and decisions not to prosecute clear crimes) along with ALL the insane immunities given in the HRC email sever scandal, make it impossible to trust the DOJ.
          Was the email – server scandal a ” criminal probe”, and if not why not, if so then why no obstruction charges?
          There is not one accusation against POTUS, that has any real evidence of having happened. There is overwhelming known evidence of democrats and the 3 letter agencies having done everything they have accused President Trump of, and far worse.
          IMV the DOJ will continue to separate every act that is indicative of a larger conspiracy against the POTUS, into a thousand isolated reprimands and ” procedural errors that need to be addressed”.
          My concern is that what should be death of the conspirators by a thousand cuts, will become EACH conspiratorial crime that proves the coup, and clear obstruction of justice, taken in isolation and allowed the beast to heal.
          Did I dream it, or did Barr, early on in his return, make a comment to the effect of ” I am just trying to stay alive”?

          • johnnybiface says:

            The question I have: Whose DOJ is it? Ours? Meaning Professional? Barr dominant (assuming is classically professional)? Obamanian/Lynch/Holder dominated? Is the DOJ so Hunger Games corrupted that any product they create has to be suspected as coming out of a globalist, never Trump cauldron?

            • Sentient says:

              Yes to your last question.
              IMO, the CIA runs this damn country and they have since 1963 or earlier. They’ll let Congress tinker with things they don’t care about – the Ag Bill or whatever – and they’ll let DOJ/FBI do their little investigations, but no one is allowed to get close to investigating the CIA itself or its methods. The Epstein thing alone proves it. Two video cameras go on the fritz at the same time? Two guards fall asleep at the same time? The most famous inmate in the world, who’d ostensibly tried to commit suicide two weeks earlier and who’d supposedly been on suicide watch commits suicide? It’s beyond ridiculous, and there should be voluminous forensic evidence of every person who’d come in and out of that jail in the prior month. Epstein was a CIA asset until he became a liability. If DOJ started poking around, they’d have investigators dying left and right in car accidents (Hastings) from “heart attacks” (Breitbart) accidental poisonings, etc.

              • lolli says:


              • frances says:

                Not buying it, Epstein was taken out of the jail and is alive and well, probably recovering from facial surgery on a beach in Israel. He had far too much on too many people and was an agent for multiple countries.

                • Sentient says:

                  He wasn’t worth that much effort. Once someone becomes a liability for the CIA, they kill them, they don’t buy ‘em a new face and set them up for a happy retirement. Epstein might have worked for Mossad, too, but not without the cooperation of the CIA.

        • Louisiana Tea Rose says:

          I have thought it’s likely this Trump/Zelensky call was used to bait the subverts…I believe it was the culmination of the final lure to bring this shitshow to completion, Biden is just collateral and incidental…Crowdstrike was the trigger that sent them over the edge into cra-cra town.

        • De Oppresso Liber says:

          I agree — mentioning Crowdstrike on a telephone call President Trump knew was being monitored, hit a tripwire, and he (President Trump) most definitely got the schittstorm reaction he was looking for……but as to why, well, that is obviously only known to those who need to know, at this time.
          I would really like to know the rest of the story……just like everyone else 😉

      • The Demon Slick says:

        Imagine you’re a foriegn leader. People with the US are sending totally opposite messages. The embassy staff tells you one thing, President Trump makes public statements that are completely the opposite. President Trump was just making clear what he wanted. That’s diplomacy. That’s foreign policy. President Trump foreign policy, not the bureaucrat losers who think they know better than us, and him.

      • Zippy says:

        “but if our President is having to bring it up on a diplomatic call with a new Ukrainian President, what does that say about what Barr is doing?”
        Exactly, although Barr not telling Trump what he is or is not doing keeps it out of Trump’s tweets.

      • ILOT says:

        If you recall, PDJT made a number of calls to nations that could assist Mr. Barr with his investigation. If I’m not mistaken, those calls were made at Mr. Barrs request to lay a foundation of cooperation in his work. PDJT has the Treaty with Ukraine to collectively fight crime in the Ukraine; that Treaty was signed by none other than Bill Clinton in 1998.

    • ABN says:

      I agree that POTUS’s questions about Crowdstrike and the location of the DNC server are of great interest. It does seem very likely he knew that his call would be or possibly would be subject to a “whistle blower” leak.
      And if that is true, one does wonder if POTUS set up the whole thing. Because with that ridiculous leak, he exposed Biden’s corruption while also bringing the DNC server and Crowdstrike to the attention of the public.
      Was/is the DNC server in Ukraine? Was/is a copy of the server in Ukraine? If not, why did POTUS ask? How is Crowdstrike connected to Ukraine and were Crowdstrike people players in the Spygate coup attempt?
      As sundance has outlined, Crowdstrike and the DNC server are lynch pins to the entire collusion delusion story. Where’s the server? What’s on it? Huge questions.

      • madeline says:

        ABN, I agree with you, Crowdstrike and the DNC server are lynch pins to the entire collusion delusion story. Where’s the server? What’s on it? Huge questions, I also think there is a plethora of other corruption, to put it mildly, on that server. Things we cannot even imagine.

      • frances says:

        I believe the HC unsecured server was hosted in Ukraine, if so then a full copy of all that happened on/to her server is in Ukraine AND all the files were on the Weiner laptop that the NYPD seized, in a folder labeled “Insurance.” This laptop BTW was actually the missing HC laptop taken home from the office by Mrs Weiner, HC’s longtime assistant. You may not be aware that the three NYPD top officers who had access to the laptop and who contacted the FBI about it are now all dead, all by “suicide.”

        • Jim Smith says:

          The Ukraine reference mentions the DNC server, not HRCs server.
          It’s the DNC “hack” that this connection debunks, therefore blowing the entire “Russians hacked the election” narrative out of the water.
          The Clinton server is another kettle of fish entirely.

        • Rob says:

          “I believe the HC unsecured server was hosted in Ukraine”
          I think you are confusing two servers. HC’s server was hosted in her basement. The DNC server is the one that was supposedly hacked by russians according to crowdstrike. The owner of crowdstrike is Ukrainian I believe.

    • Jaap Titulaer says:

      The President’s choice of words was poor.
      The real question is indeed about Ukrainian involvement in the hacking and related activities.
      Some facts
      1) The software used in the phishing operation against John Podest is Ukrainian, not Russian. The calling convention of the software differs between that used against hundreds of other targets in the USA in that time period (Democrats, Republicans, journalists, companies etc). The calling convention used against Podesta is only known from a few other cases in 2016, but it’s known to have been used by CyberBerkut, a Ukrainian (pro-Russian) hacker group.
      2) The head of CrowdStrike, Dmitri Alperovitch, is a Russian born American with very good contacts in the hacking world, including and especially in Ukraine. As is visible via FB etc, He has good relationships with the anti-Russian, nationalistic, group of hacktivists known as Informnapalm. Informnapalm is aligned with the current government of Ukraine and hence is anti-Russian; they have their own little civil war against such pro-Russian hacker groups like CyberBerkut.
      3) The ICA report mentioned a specific set of software as an example of Russian hacking tools, when in fact the tools are Ukrainian, made by a well known Ukrainian group of hackers
      4) The Guccifer 2 personae (person or team) contains at least one person who is of Moldovan descent, who is a right-winger (and likely anti-Russian) and who still speaks and writes Moldovan, which he calls Romanian (as is common among right-wing Moldovans). And he writes that in Latin letters, not Cyrillic. He must be a native of either Moldova or neighboring Ukraine. This means he would be aligned with Informnapalm could even be a member of it.
      5) A large group of Ukrainians was visiting the United States of America in the middle of 2016. They met with Isarkoff and Chalupa (at the Library of Congress I think). Many stayed in the USA for a while.
      6) The Guccifer 2 personae operated from the mid-Western USA. In the timezone of this building: https://chicago.mfa.gov.ua/en
      7) In its initial reporting to the newspapers, CrowdStrike was a bit vague about many details (and the reporters did not ask), but they did specify, oddly, that they actually knew which documents had been ‘stolen’ (copied by the hackers)!
      That is a remarkable claim because you can’t know what documents are accessed by which account in a Windows environment such as the DNC, unless someone had activated a little known feature (Audit). That’s rarely done as that is very bad for performance. It actually registers which account access what documents and at what time.
      So how did they know?
      And then when Guccifer 2 made his first public announcement, very shortly after CrowdStrike did, he mentioned that one of the documents in his release was in fact exactly the document which had been mentioned by CrowdStrike (a word document with anti-Trump opposition research made by the DNC).
      To make a long story short: there would be some questions that proper cybersecurity researchers would have at these points, and they would likely want to ask the Ukrainian authorities for a bit of help in these areas.
      So yeah the questions indirectly may be related to CrowdStrike, but they have little to do with ‘the servers’. It has to do with Ukrainian hackers.

    • frances says:

      I believe the HC unsecured server was hosted in Ukraine, if so then a full copy of all that happened on/to her server is in Ukraine.

  54. corkyboyd says:

    Shortly before the 2016 election Rush Limbaugh reported that he had been approached by several extremely high level sources that Kim Dotcom had information on the DNC hack. I believe it tied Assange to Dotcom and would prove that Russia was not the source. Limbaugh dropped the story quickly. Bur I still wonder want it was all about.

    • Newhere says:

      Many mainstream republican news analysts/commentators started on it, then dropped it almost as soon as they mentioned it. Must have been swift orders across corporate ownership. It’s a good reminder that as much as personalities like Limbaugh and Hannity have some genuinely good insight and facts — there are always guardrails on what they cover. And anyone who goes outside the guardrails is immediately unfollowed, never retweeted, never mentioned, etc. We live under tight controls.

      • sDee says:

        ” there are always guardrails on what they cover”
        So important to keep this in mind when watching or reading corporate media.
        All forms of “mass dissemination of information” (broadcast, film and print) were long ago put into the hands of a very few men. It is not a difficult task and is now has become highly sophisticated propaganda, and global.. The WWW is harder to control but is well underway.
        This control of information is comforting and re-assuring to those among us with minds of “natural slaves”.
        For the minds of freemen, an illusion of choice must be maintained. That, for example, is why Fox news has a spectrum of hosts who have variable width “guardrails”, as you call them. That is the Murdochs’ role.
        The truth about our government and our political parties is ugly and exposes an eternal evil. The natural slaves will always react in anger to anything that exposes them to the true nature of their predicament.
        Freemen may take longer to accept this, but eventually most of us will. America’s very first citizens followed the First Amendment with the Second Amendment – ensuring we have a final course of action should we realize it too late.

        • lolli says:

          And why nothing will be exposed on these programs that is not meant to be exposed, or already public information.
          I guess it just makes some people feel better to hear the confirmation of what we already know spoken on the air. I Just don’t care for the drama and time wasted. Prefer research and reading.

    • cdnintx says:

      I remember Kim Dot Com on twitter stating the exact same thing. He had offered to come testify about what he knew but no one ever contacted him.

  55. Hanuman says:

    I just can’t take Barr seriously.
    Remind too much of Ralphie.
    A Christmas Story (1983)

  56. JohnCasper says:

    Andrew McCarthy said some time ago, “Assange is an inveterate anti-American who has done incalculable damage to U.S. intelligence operations.”
    McCarthy has a very sick view of which are friends and which are enemies of America to the extent he has them completely reversed.

    • lotbusyexec says:

      i have not verbalized this but have thought the same many an article, radio appearance and TV appearance.

    • Rynn69 says:

      Andrew McCarthy is one of those DC Dwellers positioned as a slick opposition party mouthpiece. He is a double-talker that bears a strong resemblance to “all talk and no action” Gowdy, Graham, or insert any GOP establishment member in there.
      He is employed by National Review by choice – a Never Trump bastion of pompous groupthink and self-congratulating, self-professed long beards. I cannot STAND Andy McCarthy. He represents the worse kind of betrayer to the American people – he is a phony supporter who sits on top of the fence. At least Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer are Democrat Commies on full display.
      Rush Limbaugh needs to utilize a different source on the law than that joker.

  57. BolivarK says:

    Well, all this could have been easily developed a year ago with a few indictments and strong pressure to give up information. By the time indictments occur, many of the coup participants may have sadly decided to commit suicide. It happens. There will be no indictments.

  58. dallasdan says:

    Given the severity of the abuse Assange is suffering now and for years, why doesn’t he drop the bomb on those who torment him? Would he be revealing his own culpability in a serious crime? I don’t understand. Comments will be appreciated.

    • Rynn69 says:

      dallasdan: A thought-provoking question. I have three possible answers that come to mind:
      1. Assange may have been threatened or his family threatened. Assange knows what is happening to Mike Flynn and what happened to Paul Manafort within the corrupt court system and DOJ of the United States. He knows what happened to Seth Rich as Assange himself tweeted a cryptic “#Seth Rich” and offered a reward leading to his murderer or murderers. Assange now heard what happened to Jeffrey Epstein. People are being KILLED. He is scared. Assange has reason to believe when you are threatened, better take it seriously.
      2. Assange does not know who to trust. It is obvious that the corrupt Purple Gang of an Obama administration was in cahoots with corrupt UK intelligence and possible higher level officials. He also knows there is extreme ambiguity about Bill Barr and John Durham. The entire country is waiting on pins and needles to see if these two are righteous men who are on a mission to bring the coup plotters to justice and reestablish the rule of law – OR – are they merely placeholders positioned to run out the clock and preserve the Swamp like Lindsey Graham, Paul Ryan, and others. Like all of us Americans, Assange cannot trust that the United States is on the fair and equal justice path. There has been slim to no evidence of it thus far.
      3. Assange might have been propositioned in some sort of deal-making with the criminals (that would be those involved in the coup and all machinations stemming from it), with part of that deal being his silence.

      • frances says:

        Julian is under a total lockdown, his lawyers can only communicate with him sporadically and when they do they are recorded. I believe the govt has had him in custody for years, not months as he made no appearance on his balcony in three years. His only hope, assuming he has one at all, is Barr and Durham jailing the corrupt en masse. Pray for him, and fund his lawyers and Craig Murray.

      • Zippy says:

        4. Because if he talked while in prison, he would be Epsteined.

    • ABN says:

      Maybe he simply waited too long and can’t do it from prison.

    • Seneca the Elder says:

      DD- GREAT question that needs to be answered.

    • lolli says:

      Who would he trust? He met with Rohrbacker (spelling not correct) and nothing was ever revealed.
      He could have told others, and it is just buried, along with Seth rich.
      If we know all of this, so does our govt.
      Assange and Manafort are political prisoners and being extremely abused. To even think of it, makes me ill.

      • dallasdan says:

        I agree that it appears he has no allies or basis for any trust in our or any other country’s legal system.
        It has been said that he has a “kill switch” that will release all the damning information hr has should he be killed. At this point, it is arguable that he is as good as dead.
        A friend speculated to me this morning that the government has located and disabled the means by which Assange’s information can be released, effectively eliminating the “kill switch” strategy, and have advised his colleagues of the fatal consequences of trying to do so. IMO, the Deep State is very capable of such a defensive move.
        For whatever reason, Assange has been neutralized, and I anticipate his death will soon be reported. I doubt that his “revelations” will ever be published.

        • lolli says:

          I have also heard wiki leaks was infiltrated. I think your friend may be correct. I haven’t mentioned it, I have no reference, and it’s been a while. I can’t remember the details.
          Thinking of all the crying over PTs water board remarks, and yet the torture of assange is somehow acceptable.

    • covfefe999 says:

      WIkileaks doesn’t reveal their sources. Assange has already stated emphatically that it wasn’t Russia.

  59. Blind no Longer says:

    A little reported Russian Deputy Attorney General named Saak Albertovich Karapetyan was working double-agents for the CIA and Kremlin. Karapetyan was directing the foreign operations of Natalia Veselnitskaya, and Glenn Simpson was organizing her inside the U.S.
    Glenn Simpson managed Veselnitskaya through the 2016 Trump Tower meeting with Donald Trump Jr. However, once the CIA/Fusion-GPS operation using Veselnitskaya started to unravel with public reporting… back in Russia Deputy AG Karapetyan fell out of a helicopter to his death (just before it crashed).
    WTF???? WOW!!! Had not heard this before! The stakes are high–Life and death high!

  60. Garavaglia says:

    Dead man’s switch? Why wasn’t it activated when he was arrested? Any thoughts?

    • vikingmom says:

      Possibly because he is not dead yet but knows that as soon as it is activated, he will be?

      • Blind no Longer says:

        If it were me, I’d go ahead and give the signal if he still has that leverage. I always wondered if they (gov) were allowing him to stay in the embassy until they could neutralize his dead man’s switch. Maybe our CIA and other world governments working together have already done this.
        Either way the governments of various countries are going to get him. I’d expose it all before I died of some one week cancer or an Epstein assisted suicide.

        • vikingmom says:

          I think Assange is between a rock and a hard place…
          If he releases the info while he is still being held, he will probably be “Epstein-ed” so that the MSM can ignore or discredit the info.
          If he waits much longer, he will probably continue receiving poor food and no medical care while they try to get him to reveal who has the kill-switch files and he will probably die anyway!
          I think he is desperately trying to stay alive however he can. I am perplexed as to why he hasn’t been brought to the US and kept under guard in a secret location that only the President knows but I guess with all the leakers that wouldn’t be safe either.

          • Blind no Longer says:

            Yup. I think that’s why he is still in the UK. If /when he comes here, his treatment will be very public and scrutinized. probably leaving him there to drug him and extract information.
            The CIA, FBI, Intel agencies, and Barrack Hussein Obama’s presidency, depend on maintaining the Russians hacked the DNC…….they’re never going to let the real story get out.

          • After Assange finishes his time in the United Kingdom Prison system, Sweden is next up to extradite him for crimes he allegedly committed in that country. Currently, the United States has to wait until these two countries are finished with him, and he’s served any prison time that they may sentence him to, before he can be brought to the U.S.
            It could easily be years, if ever, before Assange sets foot on U.S. soil.

            • doofusdawg says:

              That’s the thing. If we wanted to extradite him we could… now. And I would imagine Assange would love to have his day in court. And remember Pompeo was head of CIA when all these arrangements on Assange were made.
              Assange is a traitor but Charlie is a whistle blower. He who controls the language controls.

            • 1riot1ranger says:

              Sweden will treat him better. And likely have a very, very short sentence, if any at all, since the charge against him was dropped.

            • litenmaus says:

              In June of 2019 the Swedish court ruled against extradition.
              The Uppsala District Court yesterday ruled against a bid by Swedish state prosecutors for the country to formally detain WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange in absentia, which would have set in motion a request for his extradition from Britain.
              Assange’s lawyers have described the judgement as a legal “victory.” It is a blow to the attempts by Swedish prosecutors to secure Assange’s extradition, through the issuing of a European Arrest Warrant, despite the fact that he has never been charged with a crime in the country.

          • 1riot1ranger says:

            I don’t think he wants to. Certainly not without some type of guarantee he won’t be Epsteined.

  61. Zy says:

    Not that important but why is Azrs Turk considered FBI instead of CIA or foreign intelligence?

  62. islandpalmtrees says:

    Does CrowdStrike have the technology to move a logical copy of the DNC server to the Ukraine. *Yes*. Reference my previous link to CrowdStrike’s utilities for sale.

  63. Newhere says:

    If Barr won’t tell the truth about that foundational lie, he can’t do what supposedly he set out to do, and that is restore faith in U.S. institutions. Even if a slew of officials go to jail, including some luminaries — without truth on that key point, the split will remain, with corporate media duping half or nearly half of America that all of the bad behavior can be explained by a “fog of war” phenomenon given the “Russian threat.” They will believe the indictments were political retribution and that any over-reach was justified.
    Somehow elite political thinking always lands on the idea that “splitting the baby” holds things together; please everyone a little, and no one entirely. That quaint notion actually works in only a very few set of circumstances, when you have a unified cause and need to hash out the details. It has NO PLACE in the administration of justice, especially when you’ve got rivaling versions of truth. TRUTH MUST OUT and let people reconcile actual facts. Hiding the most important facts so evil perpetrators who threatened our nation can save a little face only validates their schemes.
    We’re in a war over the truth. It’s not “we” win or “they” win it has to be the truth wins. It’s the only way out. Sundance has said many times — and it’s more and more prescient — the challenge for Barr isn’t to uncover what we don’t know, it’s managing just how much the public already knows. A cynic might say some secrets are better left buried from history; but no one can reasonably say that a regime who stands behind a lie when the public knows better in the end even serves its own interests. For an institutionalist it’s not the easy choice, but if the goal is truly the save the institution and the authority of the ruling order, it’s the only choice.

  64. arze says:

    Russian expert Stephen Cohen has been saying for years the attacks on candidate and now President Trump are motivated by government actors opposed to improved US relations with Russian Federation.
    That motive makes sense. Perhaps there are others.
    Question: which government actors, or set of institutions, originated attacking Trump — to prevent improved US/Russia bilateral relations?
    The prime suspects, in no particular order:
    US Deep State [CIA/FBI/DOJ
    US Borg [state department]
    The British
    Whose idea was this, Obama, Deep State, Borg, British, other? Who wanted most to perpetuate Cold War with Russia, in other words, and took the “bull by the horns” to try and destroy Trump?
    The answer to this question is important, is key, as the Barr/Durham investigation continues.
    It’s crystal clear that if it was British Idea, mucho efforts will be made to cover this up, or at least, this is a strong possibility.
    Ditto Obama, though perhaps with less urgency than if this were Britain’s idea
    The deep state and or borg, or both would be easier for Barr/Durham to handle, even though this in and of itself is still a handful, especial given CIA may be main culprit.
    Quote Sundance used in post, from a British news site, called “Independent” is classic British Curve Ball Speak:
    “they are basically asking, in quite robust terms, for help in doing a hatchet job on their own intelligence services”
    Why does the psychological impact of this statement from a British official sound so familiar?
    It refers to an investigation as a Hatchet Job.
    The New York Times, instead of deploying Hatchet Job, calls it Conspiracy Theory. etc etc
    The Independent frames similarly, as well, saying Barr/Durham are: “focusing on the theory, aired on far-right conspiracy sites…”
    The Independent newspaper story, without evidence, states as the gospel that “the conclusion of the US intelligence services and special counsel Robert Mueller that Russia interfered in the last US presidential election”
    This type of story, like so many in the US press, are written by and/or with the aid of each nation’s respective “intelligence community.”
    Their give-away is the strident tone of “trust the deep state” they are our protectors, in other words, exactly a narrative antithetical to a nation that is supposed to be governed by the people, not by a permanent bureaucracy.
    The biggest give-away of the Independent’s fackery [and potential British culpability] is this assumption we are just supposed to swallow and smile at:
    “that Ukraine framed Vladimir Putin over the US election in a complex triple-cross operation by impersonating Russian hackers.”
    Has anyone studying this closely come across this as the focus of any investigation?
    Ukraine framed Putin.
    Perhaps Schiff moonlights as an Independent news correspondent, or perhaps Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Vindman also moonlights at that place too.
    Of course they don’t but it is their narrative, in a British paper. What are the British and their media lackies attempting to obscure and hide from those who want the truth?
    The Independent is giving it away, they protesteth too much:
    “The UK, in particular, has been viewed by Trump followers, especially far-right conspiracy theorists, as a deep source of woes for the president.”
    Why doesn’t the UK’s Independent, for instance, publish the complete cables of Sir Kim Darroch?
    Sir Kim, who famously stated while UK’s Ambassador to US that Steele is absolutely legit., Tell it to Ripley’s Believe it or Not.

    • Patrick Healy says:

      Arze and others.
      Please understand that our media, ALL newspapers and all Tv and radio outlets in Britain Ireland and the rest of Europe are rabidly left wing.
      That rag you quote is almost as bad as the Biased BBC and the guardian.
      Your president could not get a fair and balanced article published about him over here if he paid for it.
      I have to come here, and to a lesser extent Breitbart, to get any semblance of balance each day.
      This is one reason I worry for the safety of our wonderful host.
      Too many who have got too close to exposing the Satanists, are either dead or silenced.

      • RAC says:

        Yes I agree, you are absolutely correct the uk media BBC in particular are an embarrassment.

      • M Droy says:

        nonsense – the UK media are about as left wing as Blair or Clinton H. The newspapers generally support the Conservatives strongly (the Mail rabidly). TV, and the BBC pretends to open to all values but in practice it too is very pro Cameron/Blair establishment.
        Besides the reason I frequent this site and far left sites is simply because far left and far right are news media sceptics. They don’t accept the establishment bull. So only on far left and far right sites will you ever see any insights to the world.

    • ann says:

      Bye the way, Stephen Cohen’s latest book is great. !

  65. Zorro says:

    Boy, if Barr/Durham are asking U.K. about Assange then he is not long for this world.

  66. k4jjj says:

    Ironically, the CIA and FBI are both supposed to protect America but are instead going to be shown responsible for destroying America when the bloody civil war begins that their wicked treason has made inevitable. We should never forgive these American traitors nor the foreign governments which joined in and worked so hard to destroy America’s electoral system. The American people themselves will hold these scoundrels accountable. There must be no place in the world safe for these conspirators to hide.

  67. Laramie Evan says:

    “Now, if we know this, and you know this; and everything is cited and factual… well, then certainly AG Bill Barr knows this.
    The $64,000 dollar question is: will they say so publicly?”
    I have been saying this, publicly, here and elsewhere, for nearly 3 years. Assange is the only thruthteller here. And, if he’s telling the truth, this whole narrative falls apart. Better shut him up.

  68. Kid Jupiter says:

    Assange should’ve told the truth far and wide about who his source for the DNC emails was when he had the chance. Instead, he played games. Now he’s going to die in prison and will never have the opportunity to go on Hannity or Tucker or wherever and say definitively: It wasn’t “The Russians,” it was Seth Rich. It was an inside job.

    • nimrodman says:

      I remember Fall 2016, he was hinting and pimping that he was going to release some game-changing disclosure “before the election”, perhaps right before, like 1st week of November.
      Then – nothing of the sort dropped
      There was some minor disclosure but nothing that lived up to previous billing, anything that WAS released couldn’t have been what had been alluded to earlier, not the same animal.
      I won’t go back and look up press for the period, but that’s my recollection
      Disappointing then, disappointing now
      Like you said, Assange missed his chance

      • bruzedorange says:

        Not sure why so many are missing this point.
        Assange is alive BECAUSE of the dead man’s switch. The info that incriminates all in the Deep State will be relased automatically if he dies. It doesn’t depend on certain friends to release it. The trigger must be the news headlines that would announce his death.
        The release command for that data might be anywhere–more likely, everywhere. It might reside in a million phones. It might be on your laptop HD. The actual data might be scattered across a million servers, and the trigger might initiate the assembly of the data to publish it in a million places at once around the world.
        Who knows?
        And that is why Assange is alive today. Until Deep State can be 100% confident that they have outwitted Assange and his network, control the trigger, and posess every piece of the data, they can’t let him die.
        “To stay alive, we must maintain the status quo, for as long as we can.”

        • olddog35 says:

          Great plan- I wouldn’t describe being held captive and wasting away like a turnip in a warehouse, as living. But that’s just me, I’m more of the “live free or die” type.

    • littleanniefannie says:

      Don’t you think that when Assange heard that Seth Rich had shot himself in the back of the head multiple times he decided to go into “sanctuary”. I never completely understood why the Ecuadorians gave him up.

      • lolli says:

        Pressured by the U.S.

      • “…..why the Ecuadorians gave him up…” US $

        • Zippy says:

          Yes, under the so-called “Trump” administration.
          ME, if president, “Give Assange asylum in the US, and drop any and all charges, but only if he sings. If this doesn’t happen NOW and if he meets with any ‘accident’ along the way, I will have everyone involved intensely investigated back to their date of birth and will make sure to the best of my ability that not only will you be fired, but you will never work in any government position again.”

    • 1riot1ranger says:

      Maybe he would, but he would have to be released from confinement for that and given a plea bargain or even dismissed charges. Would you just voluntarily release secret information on your way to a 30 year sentence? How does that help him?

  69. Rynn69 says:

    All of America – with the exception of 30% of the brainwashed, stupid, gullible sheep of the left – know that Russia was and is a false flag, the DNC and Obama administration including the Deep State orchestrated the phony Russia narrative, and there was never a Russian hack. It was a leak. It was a DNC insider. It was Seth Rich.
    Russia = Lie; Seth Rich = Truth
    Hack = Lie; Leak = Truth
    We all know Mr. Barr. What are you going to do about it? People are getting killed.

    • Blue Wildflower says:

      I think most of America has no idea what is going on. They are totally clueless! Fireside chats would be a great idea if they will take time to listen.

  70. Perot Conservative says:

    His fate sure seems precarious, especially given the alleged recent murder of pedophile-to’-the-powerful Jeffrey Epstein.
    (If you missed it, the world-famous OJ forensic pathologist – Dr. Michael Baden – has multiple issues with Epstein’s death. Both he and Judge Pirro say the bone broken in his neck denotes homicide by strangulation. Dr. Baden says a death photo in his cell looks staged. He has asked where the fingernail and neck DNA is, why the quick speed to announce a cause of death, etc.)
    How can we assure Assange his safety? Seth Rich tie in?

  71. Jimmy says:

    I have a puzzle that I could not resolve but probably SD can.
    Q: Do you think Pompeo is a patriot ? YES or NO. Your answer will help answer the next question.
    Fact: Pompeo either supports or recommended Gina as CIA director. TRUE or FALSE
    Q. Do you trust Gina to do the right thing (or on the right side) regarding Russia gate? YES or NO.
    The more I thought about it, I tried to answer the above the following way: Gina may not be very trust worthy in the end. If not against, she might be preserving CIA institutional interest (which is dont expose and burn it down). Will SDor anyone else have a different take?

    • Patrick Healy says:

      Thank you. I have been wracking my tiny brain as to who the head of your SeeAyeAh is.
      That’s her – she was your chief spy in the U.S. Embassy over here for a spell.
      Best buddies with all our top spies and right up to speed on all things connected to Assange Steel etc.
      Would not trust her to tell me the correct time.

  72. Jimmy says:

    Patrick Healy said “Would not trust her to tell me the correct time.”
    Wait, What????

    • Patrick Healy says:

      I was referring to that Gina watsername, the head spy in Langley who was over in London previously.
      She never seems to get much press, yet she must be neck deep in this witch hunt.
      Thank you.

      • lolli says:

        Gina Haspell?

      • Bogeyfree says:

        IMO if the Brits come clean and implicate a couple of higher ups and then you add to this the info they have collected from Ukraine, Italy and Australia and add my laundry list of other potential evidence points and my guess is Barr and the boys should be able to prove a massive conspiracy to take down a sitting President.
        It all comes down to moral compass and intestinal fortitude IMO.

  73. Michael Hennessy says:

    Assange is no dope! Most assuredly his evidence (and multiple copies thereof) implicating these treasonous snakes is in a safe place!
    The day we see this guy walking free is the day that evidence will have been lost forever!

  74. aProvider says:

    I am amazed that still there are 99% commenters here that believe in the US Govt to provide justice by one way or another for the treason and participants in this coup.
    I maintain that these criminals will walk and we, the electorate, will get the shaft and be ignored. In ten years this corruption and criminality will continue to be business as usual.
    If you want change then you should giving many, many people lead poisoning. The courts will never deliver the needed outcome to save this republic.

    • Dixie says:

      I’m probably one of the most naive people who reads Sundance and commenters every day. There is no way that I’m gullible enough to believe there is any justice in our system anymore, except for President Trump who has my loyalty and trust….and my vote.

    • GP says:

      Agreed 100%. No one is going to jail. No one was ever going to jail. All the delay is just what the Hannitys of the world want. If if everything is breaking news, then nothing is breaking news.

    • Doug Amos says:

      We know and they know we know; that is the canary in the coalmine. Business as usual is now closed.

    • covfefe999 says:

      I love how Eeyores refuse to acknowledge a variety of opinions. It’s either full trust or zero trust. What about the middle? That’s where I sit. I like what Barr and Durham are doing. I also like that Trump knows everything, Nunes knows almost everything, and Jordan, Gohmert, and other Trump allies know a tremendous amount.
      Don’t be in a hurry. 2020 election day is a year from now. We have plenty of time to out the traitors.

  75. M Droy says:

    Litvinenko. Links directly to … Christopher Steele.
    Source Luke Harding’s Book.
    The Litvinenko inquiry was supposed to be public but there wasn’t any convincing evidence to prove Russians did it. The Chairman then took a non-public deposition from MI5/6 and magically came out convinced that the Russians “did it”. (Litvinenko was a crazy Skripal type of murder in 2006 – Putin was accused of wanting him shut up by using a poison that left him dying over 2 weeks reading out his death bed series to a friend of allegations in English (he didn’t speak English but so what).
    Who at MI6 was responsible for putting together the secret evidence? Christopher Steele.
    (And his work colleague Pablo Miller was the man that ran Skripal).

  76. Chris Soran says:

    Protect Assange…no more Epstein’s…

  77. Patrick Healy says:

    M Droy.
    Thank you.
    Btw what is/was the outcome of the Skirpal thing?
    Is it all swept under the carpet?

    • M Droy says:

      like MH17, it seems the idea is to shout loud enough and ignore all questions. Skripal, daughter and “policeman” have all disappeared.
      Turned out about a year on that the first person to attend them was the chief nurse of the British army, a colonel Alison McCourt, who would have been expert in treating this kind of attack as she had recently run a mission to Africa dealing with Ebola.

  78. mg says:

    I can’t believe Trump hasn’t canned Barr. He is a useless pos.

    • GP says:

      And who will Mitch confirm to replace Barr?

      • lolli says:

        Exactly. PT trying to expose as much as possible to force Barr to act. Basically, shame him into action, IMO. Barr is so egotistical, it might work to some degree. But, Barr sure didn’t mind covering up for the murder of Vicki weaver at Ruby Ridge. The difference is we have an honest President. So, we will see, I guess.

    • covfefe999 says:

      Barr is useless because he hasn’t imprisoned people already? Perhaps your expectations aren’t realistic.

  79. Pyrthroes says:

    “Julian Assange is the only person with direct knowledge of how Wikileaks gained custody of the DNC emails; and Assange has evidence this was not from a Russian hack.”
    Seth Rich, anyone?

    • Bogeyfree says:

      You might want to talk with Ed Butowsky as he would differ with you on your point as there ARE others who know and in fact claim to have spoken with Assange directly on how Wikileaks got the DNC emails.

  80. justsayn2 says:

    another test

  81. timothy says:

    Pray for Julian Assange

  82. BTW where is Assange being held ? No hearings etc?like in deep freeze /complete blackout? I hope he has a so- called “ deadman switch”; perhaps that is what will help him avoid an Epstein “suicide” fate.

    • M Droy says:

      Belmont prison (near me actually). SE London.
      Terrorists and some big name crooks get put there. It should have plenty of facilities. But they aren’t treating him well, access to lawyers and even to his own notes on the case are restricted. Mail to him was “lost” for 3 months. He looks deathly pale.

  83. Bogeyfree says:

    Imagine there is a bank robbery where……
    a gun is left at the scheme and the bank manager is a first hand witness on what the robbers took
    but the the investigator does not confiscate the gun and doesn’t dust it for fingerprints AND
    the investigator doesn’t talk to the first hand witness AND
    in fact the investigator doesn’t even go to the scene of the crime but takes the word of a third party about what happened.
    Think about this example scenario for a minute.
    Why on earth would anyone do that kind of investigation in this example?? Why??

  84. lolli says:

    Do y’all remember when Julian was arrested (4-11-19) when he was kicked out of the Ec embassy?
    He kept saying to the camera’s that it was Trumps DOJ? I will try to find the clip.
    Assange did not want to be extradited to US, his lawyers, the ones still alive, that weren’t thrown in front of a train, have fought to keep him from being extradited here. Assange does not trust our doj or any of our IC, he knows.
    And Barr sticks to the “Russia hacked” script while allowing Wray to continue as FIb dir.
    and Pompeo? I don’t trust any of them. No way.

    • Julian says:

      Trump is Draining the Swamp.
      Trump sacked all the Swamp people the moment he walked into the White House on Jan 20, 2017.
      There are no Swamp people left in Trump’s Administration, White House, CIA, DOJ, FBI etc.
      They are all Trump loyalists. MAGA People like BIlly Barr, Gina Haspel and the like.
      Trump wouldn’t bother nominating Swamp people. What a waste of time.

  85. scrap1ron says:

    I see dead people.

  86. Dan says:

    Bill Binney has weighed in on this , and has forensic evidence that the wiki/DNC email material was NOT a hack, but an “in house download” Check out his interview with Bill Still……https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4H_RAq7EhYk&t=723s

    • covfefe999 says:

      He doesn’t have any actual evidence. He stopped working for the NSA in 2002 and he lost his security clearance in 2007. People like to talk about him as if he is still working in an intelligence agency. 2002 and 2007 are eons ago. He is not a contemporary of the DNC email leaks.

      • William H Warrick III MD says:

        You have no idea what you are talking about. We are on the same team, we are after the same people and those people are going down. We have a different approach, but in the end, we are not enemies. We have actual evidence that is not debateable. Bill is the greatest Cryptanalysis in the History of the NSA and he has the goods on these criminals. There is nothing else to say. Quit bi#@hing at me and keep your eye on the Prize.

  87. Bogeyfree says:

    Looking for other example of why people don’t trust government.
    Just read about the Ed Butowsky/Ty Clevenger Seth Rich lawsuit and how the FIB is denying they have any evidence on this case to turn over to Ty.
    We have similar tactics going on in the Sidney Powell / Gen. Flynn case.
    But then we have a DOJ head, appointed by PT, who overseas the FIB giving Notre Dame honor speeches.
    Amazing world we live in.

    • lolli says:

      I am still waiting for actions to match words spoken. Anyone can read a great speech, but do they walk the talk? Waiting….

  88. ezbruce says:

    My takeaway: The scope and size of the US government needs to be drastically reduced. Hopefully that will be the primary object of Trump’s 2nd term.

  89. Jerrycan says:

    I wonder whether a Assange has secured some kind of guarantee amongst his peers, that should anything happen to him, a certain shitload of information is to be published on that very day…

  90. GREENMIRROR says:

    I think if anyone takes a deep dive into every person that Trump wanted to work with or did work with during the campaign or in the administration the metadata surveillance and contacts that mysteriously and suddenly appear reveal the true story.
    It’s also astonishing how Trump continuously rebuilds his team with patriots as the deep state removes/hides/pulls pieces off the board.

    • sDee says:

      ” Trump continuously rebuilds his team with patriots as the deep state removes/hides/pulls pieces off the board.”
      In my corporate experience, our executives often found themselves with hostile and or possibly disloyal junior executives, entire divisions, and/or new acquisitions. They must keep the company running and cannot afford to dump the entire staff. So they keep most everything in place and start putting people to the test.
      Almost always they have an absolutely loyal contact in all the meetings all the time who soon finds out a few more below who can also be trusted. One by one people are quietly transferred, retired or fired. It is not exact by any means.
      Trump is an executive – one who rose to the top of the NYC cesspools and shark tanks with his integrity intact. The stakes here could not be higher, but we have to trust Donald Trump on this. It will not be pretty. It will not go the way we believe it should. Many of those we know should be punished, will not be.
      It is after all, the “Executive Branch” and for once we are seeing it run like one – even if it is in the worst of times.
      “A Republic madam, if you can keep it”

      • IGiveUp says:

        gonna need u for the re-build:) Even before WWII ended, the allies met a few times to discuss the post-war world. The outcome of those discussions were certainly NOT perfect however no planning would have been even worse. I wonder who Trump speaks with to discuss the post-war world.

        • sDee says:

          I would love to be on a team to move the fascist alliance of government and GAFTA (Google Apple Facebook Twitter Amazon) into public domain open-source, and open-standards.

  91. Bogeyfree says:

    I wonder if Barr will ever give the American people a full accounting on what his team did regarding all of the following potential evidence……….
    Wiener Laptop
    Clinton Server
    Clinton 33K emails
    DNC Server and evaluating third party data findings
    Depose Brazile
    PapaD’s serial numbers on the 10K
    Assange deposition
    Dana Rohrabacher Deposition from his conversation with Assange
    Ratner’s video recording about Assange
    FBI documents on Seth Rich Murder
    Mifsud’s Phones
    Declass CIA/FIB records on Mifsud, Halper and Azra Turk
    Depose Patrick Byrne, Butina’s handler
    Brennen EC
    Scope Documents
    Steele Deposition
    U1 Whistleblower
    Hammer Whistleblower and his 47 Hard Drives
    Audit of NSA Contractors who had unfettered access to NSA search queries
    Take a new look at Awan Congressional IT case
    All NSA data collected such as emails, texts and phone calls made by key alleged perpetrators
    I mean look at this list. It is mind boggling
    There is so much “candy” here it makes the M&M’s Store in Vegas look empty.
    The American public needs to see and know what exactly Barr and the boys have done with all of this potential evidence that exists as it could be a treasure trove IMO of HARD EVIDENCE that no investigator could ignore.
    IMO there is enough there there in this list alone that could blow this case to kingdom come.
    It’s all just sitting there for the taking.

    • lolli says:

      Yep. Bogeyfree. Keep your list posted.

    • olddog35 says:

      ….HARD EVIDENCE that no investigator could ignore.
      Unless you are corrupt.

    • covfefe999 says:

      Your “mind boggling” list of evidence is the reason why people should be patient with Barr and Durham. The Eeyores here seem to think this is such an easy case. You know, it’s always easy if you’re an armchair AG or armchair federal prosecutor, not a real one
      2020 election is an entire year away. We have time.

      • Concernedcitizen says:

        I understand the impatience. All of us want severe consequences for the seditious conspirators – immediately, if not sooner. As someone who has worked in federal law enforcement, I know that it takes time to put together a public corruption case, particularly when the conspiracy reaches as high as this one (Obama). Every i has to be dotted, every t crossed, evidence checked and double-checked. Plea deals for cooperators need to be negotiated.
        The Grand Jury is the most powerful tool for law enforcement because with it, prosecutors/investigators can compel testimony. When we hear that Barr/Durham have issued Grand Jury subpoenas,rest easy. It won’t be long until we see justice done. Just my opinion, but I think Barr/Durham are on the right track.

  92. NEVILLE says:

    Why did the name Carta Page become so famous so quickly before the public knew who he was in the Trump campaign of 2016.
    It seemed a bit odd that he became such a famous person for just being a political advisor to Trump going on how many other advisors there were who did not share anywhere as nearly as much of the spot light ?

  93. Bogeyfree says:

    Let’s be honest, the list of people potentially involved in this conspiracy is MASSIVE and IMO they are connected like a row of standing dominos.
    So IMO you can’t just take down one or two dominos without taking down the entire row and add on to that that many of these dominoes could be very close friends and acquaintances.
    So a very interesting dilemma……..
    Take it all down or take none down?

  94. IGiveUp says:

    Why didn’t the CIA murder Assange inside the Ecuadorian embassy? There would be nothing to stop them except possibly Ecuador.

    • sDee says:

      These guys are computer system experts. I gotta think that his deadman switch would be digital, redundant, quite sophisticated and not dependent on any single person/place to hold or release the information.
      The FBI’s going to have to do a lot more than “discover a safe in his Manhattan mansion” to destroy this evidence.

  95. Julian says:

    Well, AG Barr and John Durham better HURRY THE F UP – Assange will be dead soon the way he’s going and likely won’t last out the year.
    He won’t be much use to anything when he is DECEASED and unable to give evidence.
    Why doesn’t Trump pardon him?
    As we know, Trump fears no one. I don’t get the hesitation. It’s been almost 3 years.

    • Bogeyfree says:

      Imagine if something happened to Assange, there would then be THREE key first hand witnesses who died while a major investigation was going on.
      I wonder if in the history of major alleged crimes has the government lost three critical witness that never got interviewed or deposed??

      • Julian says:

        I presume one of those THREE is Jeff Epstein.
        Is the other putative CIA asset al-Baghdadi? Or his handlers Poppy Bush & John McCain?

    • covfefe999 says:

      Trump can’t pardon anyone until after the 2020 election.

  96. I wonder how this intruder scaling the walls of Ecuadorian embassy fits in. I would suspect a common burglar would attempt such a thing.
    August 22, 2016:

  97. Bogeyfree says:

    In America anyone can hire an investigator right?
    So maybe it is time for MAGA Supporters to come together and hire Sidney, Bongino and Sheriff Clark to be OUR investigative team.
    Think of all the people they could interview and all the potential evidence they could look into.
    Granted they don’t have all the same powers that an USDA has but IMO they could gather some very powerful testimony and evidence just by digging and this team are true patriots and worker bees.
    Think of it as a backup plan, a way to keep everything up and up and accountable and to ensure all rocks have been turned over.
    After all this is our country. We are, We the People!
    And if PT goes down our Republic goes down.
    IMO we are not just fighting for PT we are fighting for us, We the People!
    My guess is we could easily get at least 30-50K people to donate $50 if it meant possibly saving our Republic.
    We scream at our Congress people to fight, how about we do more than just vote in 2020 as there is a chance if those who we hope are honorable are not, then it won’t get to Nov 2020.
    Groundswell could be a game changer IMO.

    • sDee says:

      “hire Sidney, Bongino and Sheriff Clark to be OUR investigative team.”
      It seems to me that ithe setbacks never come down to lack of investigatory evidence. There is plenty of that complied here at the Treehouse and other sites. There was under Bush and Obama too.
      The deeper rooted problem is now surfacing. Our prosecutors, judicial and legislative oversight branches are complicit. And even when sunlight is shined there, the media steps in to block it and or taint it from public exposure.
      This is the political/legal battle goring that Donald Trump has stepped onto – and maybe even the strategic one for a larger war within.

  98. Bill Dumanch says:

    Either POTUS sends in a Recue Team for Assange
    His suicide note is written by-
    “Epstein’s Mother”

  99. mylabs5 says:

    Kim Dotcom has also said he interacted with the wikileaks DNC hacker (an inside job). He says he has proof. NZ went after him but he won in court. He sent out notifications (Twitter) that if he could get immunity he’d come to the US and give testimony.
    Question: Did Bar and Dunham question him when they were down under?
    Seems like the criminal wheels started turning after that leg of the trip.

  100. flatlandgoober says:

    The CIA has been known to kill people, am I right?

    • Julian says:

      How could you make such a preposterous claim?
      Next thing you know you’ll be telling us they have spies embedded around the world!

  101. iwasthere says:

    Gina, Pompeo, Wray, Barr, Nunes, Trump? etc etc. All asleep at the switch to let the new (corrupt or incompetent) ICIG slip through the confirmation to that position? Not good. And bit them right away.
    The fact that no one from team Mueller – bothered to interview Assange – just demonstrates what an obvious sham of an SP we had. It’s sick.

    • Julian says:

      Er. Clearly appointing Michael Atkinson as ICIG was part of Trump’s plan to ensnare the Deep State.
      Trump plays chess while the Deep State play checkers you know.

  102. Linda K. says:

    You know, The CIA and FBI really look bad these days. I used to trust them but it only takes a few bad apples to ruin an entire organization. I feel sorry for Assange. It seems we need a whistleblower for him.

  103. Zippy says:

    “…a claim only made possible by relying on forensic computer analysis from Crowdstrike, a DNC contractor.”
    Located in the UKRAINE!

    • sysconfig says:

      That boggles the mind indeed..DNC with a remote server in Ukraine with Voter information in a country at war with itself and Russia. There is a reason Trump said to Zelinsky..”you are surrounded by the same people”. Trump knew that phone line was hot.
      Under the radar at same time is the Lovinger Whistleblower case
      Before his suspension, Mr. Lovinger complained internally that the Office of Net Assessment (ONA) was not doing its job by failing to produce reports on future threats known as “net assessments.” Instead, the office was awarding contracts for outside academic-style reports, he said.
      One paid contractor was Stefan Halper, the Washington national security figure who while at Cambridge University became an FBI informant to spy on Trump campaign associates in 2016.
      Here is how Mr. Bigley discovered the NCIS verdict:
      Judicial Watch, a conservative investigative nonprofit run by Tom Fitton, joined the Lovinger team. It filed a lawsuit in U.S. District Court to obtain the Pentagon’s file on Mr. Lovinger.
      Mr. Fitton hit pay dirt. The Pentagon turned over a number of email threads. Buried in them was a passing reference to the NCIS. Nothing more.
      Mr. Bigley then filed an open records request. Last month, the NCIS turned over its 2018 report.
      The attorney said he was stunned. He never knew the probe even existed, but less its findings.
      He also discovered the Pentagon knew his client was exonerated on the leak issue.
      The NCIS report states that the investigative agency specifically informed the Office of Net Assessment.
      “ONA was apprised of the status of the investigation,” the report states.
      The report also shows that the requesting agency in August 2017 was the Pentagon’s Washington Headquarters Services. It is the organization that revoked Mr. Lovinger’s clearance and brought the case against him.

  104. TommyM says:

    hmmm… Assange’s info source??? … the late Seth Rich?

  105. Justin Green says:

    I would guess that Assange is holding onto such “proof” as the only thing keeping him alive or out of some deep dark prison cell where he never sees another human being again.
    Perhaps he has instructions for the “proof” to be released in the event he’s Arkancided.

  106. Bogeyfree says:

    I don’t recall seeing this anywhere and I don’t recall any thread by you on this story.
    I wonder if you might comment or address this in a thread if you think it might have any validity.
    And also it might be good to get your thoughts on all the recent changes at DHS and SS back in April 2019.

  107. larrythelogger says:

    The $64,000 dollar question is: will they say so publicly?
    So what if it is? There is a Jupiter sized mountain of public evidence and public incriminations by the felons of the deep state and by the Marxists in the press and House which has resulted in ZERO action against any of them. The irrefutable evidence available from Ukraine via John Solomon and good grief, Glenn Beck for crying out loud, has a Marxist media lying about it to lambast Solomon. Now the Marxist House is using made up, out in the open lies to impeach Trump. All of that is out in the open yet ignored by 99 percent of the media and government. So, what the hell good is Barr saying things publicly going to do? Undestroy Flynn’s, Carter Page’s and Papadopolous’ lives. Will it un-miscarry Papadopolous’ wife’s baby, lost due to her hours upon hours inquisition by those “good and decent, rank and file” FBI agents who gave her no breaks and knowing she was very pregnant while they tried to force her to sign a lie against her husband then rejoicing when her child was lost? NO, it won’t and it won’t matter one whit if Barr says so publicly because NONE of the coup felons will EVER face real constitutional based justice.

  108. trialbytruth says:

    I went to the link Sundance provided as the source for the first qoute. It took me to the UK independent.
    Once upon a time the Independent was a total liberal rag. Supportive of anything anti Intelligence community anti military.
    You could count on the Independent to be supportive of Passage for all things.
    Read the article it is a blow by blow trail of excuses and obviscations of the Deep States role. They have become a total organ of the Deep State.
    They are still leftests but not in the “freedoms
    just another word for nothing left to lose” way. Perhaps their old position would be best summed up in this qoute.
    “Democratic regimes may be defined as those in which, every now and then, the people are given the illusion of being sovereign, while the true sovereignty in actual fact resides in other forces which are sometimes irresponsible and secret.”
    Now I would sum them up with this qoute.
    “All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state.”
    Both of course are Benito Mussolini , so maybe not as much has changed as one might think.

    • trialbytruth says:

      You could count on the Independent to be supportive of Passage for all things.
      You could count on the Independent to be supportive of ASSANGE for all things.

    • Dr.No76 says:

      But here is an interesting question for SD to address. Assange is now, effectively, in the hands of Barr. What’s stopping Barr from lending an ear to hear out, completely, Assange’s story and his proof that Russia was not involved in the DNC hack?

  109. TedB says:

    If Assange wants to stay alive, and if he really can prove the DNC hacks were not from Russia, he needs to make the proof public. There is no valid reason to keep it a secret any longer. Seth Rich was assassinated for his part in providing the information. If there are any other individuals involved, their best bet for avoiding Arkancide is for the facts to come out.

  110. Bogeyfree says:

    So why can’t Barr answer one simple question………..
    Since the President has given you full authority to declass ANY and ALL documents, have you declassified and personally reviewed just a handful or a few hundred or a few thousand documents to date?
    This single answer, that violates nothing, would help assure to the American people that AG Barr is following PT orders.

    • Johnny Moe says:

      Good point and a possibility. Consider this…Barr has stated he wants to ‘de-politicize’ the DOJ and other agencies. Leaking or releasing documents piecemeal would be seen as political by everyone. I would just wait to see the report. The truth matters. PS If Trump had worked with the Russians, he should go. His opponents did not come up with the goods…now, the shoe is on the other foot. Seems fair to me & I want to know what in the hell went on:))

    • jnr2d2 says:

      Question for Sundance: Assange was arrested after Barr became AG. For safety and safe extradition? Or Barr letting UK control Assange and obstruct Justice?
      Also, since there is a known legal criminal investigation, shouldn’t many of the conspirators, or their duped closely aliened flacks be concerned about what they say and do? Obstruction of Justice, Conspiracy to obstruct Justice. Then there is Military Nat. Sec. Council people publicly criticize the C & C — a violation of the Military Rules of Conduct.
      FARA violations galore too !!!! Military and civilian NSC! As to Ukraine, classic Logan Act if there ever was one!!

    • hokkoda says:

      I think that’s what the leak about Durham’s investigation formally shifting to a criminal probe was about. Grassley sent that tweet about the “deep state deep six” of the IG Report, and within a day or so the IG sends a letter explaining the delay and the Durham criminal probe is announced publicly. That’s not an accident. That’s Barr/Durham/Horowitz realizing that they cannot operate with so much secrecy that everyone doubts there’s an investigation at all (e.g. Huber, which was a make-work exercise).
      This quote “they are basically asking, in quite robust terms, for help in doing a hatchet job on their own intelligence services” should give us all some confidence.
      In quite robust terms? That means Durham does not have general questions. He has very specific questions about specific people, times, places, events, etc. Hatchet job? Whoever the leaker is seems to be predicting a bloody mess if what Durham asked about leads where the think it will lead – heads are going to roll at CIA and FBI.
      This is one of those media leaks where somebody hits the panic button because the kinds of questions they are being asked and the way those questions are being asked is indicative of a criminal investigation that is very advanced, very damaging, and deadly serious.
      Stuff like this gives me hope.

    • Justin Green says:

      I’m assuming it’s been declassified. Someone is feeding it to Sidney Powell, thank God.

      • hokkoda says:

        She has a great inside source. I mean, she knows the name of the document, the person who wrote it, and the dates about things that were not disclosed. I hope that person has a good cover story because the Government Party is going to have their head if Flynn’s case is thrown out.

        • Justin Green says:

          If it’s been declassified, then I’m not sure any laws are being broken by the information being given to Sidney.

          • hokkoda says:

            “Illegal” is whatever the Government Party says it is. Illegal in the Government Party simply means doing something the Government Party hasn’t pre-approved…

    • vml9000 says:

      Recently AG Barr praised Chris Wray to the Heavens. This made me very uncomfortable. I want to believe in AG Barr but sometimes, I’m just not sure.

      • hokkoda says:

        Or, you attract more flies with sugar than with vinegar. You keep your friends close and your enemies closer. There’s no point in Barr trashing Wray. That just causes everyone to go “shields up” and lock down and lock out investigators. This is D.C., and when somebody says nice things about you, it means…
        …absolutely nothing.
        In fact, they might express confidence in you today, and announce your unexpected departure tomorrow.

  111. Neo says:

    I’m sure that Barack Obama knows nothing about these operations since none of this has been in the NYTimes

  112. mtk says:

    It doesn’t take a deep researcher to see the aligned Deep State motive to control Julian Assange because the Mueller report was dependent on Russia cybercrimes, and that narrative is contingent on the Russia DNC hack story which Julian Assange disputes.
    The Anwan brothers????
    Do you think if they compromised many Congressional Offices, some of those Congressional Office computers might be in http/tcpIp communication with the DNC servers.
    Naw…never in a million years.
    The sweetest of sweetheart deals for them to skate… Never in a million years could be based on the Anwan putting two and two together and going, “You guys(FBI/DOJ/IC) need your.. The Russians hacked the DNC more than you need to throw us into some deep dark hole.
    Naw… The Anwan’s would never play that leveraged game.
    The question is would the Goverment play the game of wanting/doing both.

    • lolli says:

      Bill Barr stated he agrees the “Russians hacked”.
      Until he changes that statement, I will agree with Sundance…”Bondo Barr”

      • Linus in W.PA. says:

        Many of the times when AG Barr said that Russians were hacking the US, it was said in hearing where if he says that he doesn’t think Russia does bad acts, he be made to look naive or as an idiot. So, I think he has to say it and let it go at that.

        • lolli says:

          ?thank you Linus. I sure hope so.

        • ggmppv says:

          Nah, remember we all thought Sessions would be good. Then Wray, then X, then Y, then Z. All of these career people know if they expose these crimes, then they or their families will suffer horrible accidents, diseases or suddenly commit crimes that will ruin them. Hope I’m wrong, but I have a feeling Barr is simply doing a very thorough of covering up the mess for the Deep State.

          • Linus in W.PA. says:

            I don’t know. None of us do.
            But, I would question why Barr even mentioned that spying did happen during his senate testimony. Why box himself in? Why say anything about it? He could have just remained silent or neutral.
            He also went on to say in interviews that he didn’t like the answers he was getting to his questions. Again, why say that in an interview?

            • Samiam1015 says:

              Could it be to give the appearance of a legitimate investigation so that they can control the findings and close the case?
              I would love to be wrong, but I don’t trust any of them.

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    • TPW says:

      What bothers me ….from reports….looks like Assange is getting the NK Otto treatment. How much does Barr know about the treatment of Assange…how much did Barr know about the evidence in the Flynn case. How much did Barr know about the death of and hanging of Epstein…….All the request for info and documents to be turned over that are blocked and ignored and the chummy relationships with Wray and RR. Barr apparently laying low as this impeachment parade continues. Neglecting to indict obvious liars like Comey and Schiff…….Sorry but there is too many negatives against Barr for me to be optomistic at all.

  113. EstebanWV says:

    I fear for Assange’s life. Who has custody of him?

    • willthesuevi says:

      No matter who has custody of Assange, his safety lies in his own hands.
      He would be much, much safer if he came out with the truth. Make it public. All of it.
      He may be a computer genius hacker, but he sucks at marketing.

    • YY4U says:

      The only reason Assange is still alive is they’re afraid he has a “Dead Man Drop” arranged .
      Jeffrey Epstein should have had one; had he, he might still be alive.
      The problem with a Dead Man Drop in this day and age is you can’t have a news outlet being your “drop” because the news outlets are all in bed with the Globalists either Globalist Corporatist (Fox) or Globalist Socialist (the rest) and won’t publish anything against the Deep State.
      My guess is because they know Assange is a tech wizard, they’re afraid he’s got a Dead Man Drop set up that goes around the Globalists’ media and cannot be suppressed. Epstein would not have been able to do that.
      As far as Barr, I think he is trying to have his cake and eat it, too, i.e. save the Deep State while holding SOMEONE accountable.
      That is a high wire act and the reason he hasn’t declassified and won’t. He has to protect those who are above the law (Hillary, Obama, other important Democrats) while punishing SOMEONE lest the fooled populace catch on America no longer is a representative republic and hasn’t been since the bureaucracy got rid of Ronald Reagan.
      The candidates are: Brennan, Clapper (probably will end up the patsy), McCabe, Comey, Strzok, Page, Bruce Ohr, Priestap etc. Whether they’ll go quietly to jail and not pull the temple down on the protected Democrats’ heads the minefield Barr is trying to traverse.
      Another strategy might be to drag this out until after the 2020 election so if Trump loses, it never has to come out. Problem solved. Deep State saved and “people have spoken”.
      Third strategy might be to claim he can’t do anything in an election year ergo it’s tabled. Then if Trump loses, see above, and if he wins, then nail Clapper (who is being set up as the fall guy).
      Take my word for it. There are people in this country above the law and nothing is going to happen to them. We are not a nation of laws, we are a nation of people, and Hillary and Obama cannot be held accountable for ANYTHING.
      Don’t flame me. I’ve been watching Hillary Clinton since 1992 and I have watched her through Whitewater, Cattle Futures, Castle Grande, Travelgate, Filegate, Benghazi, Emailgate and NOBODY has laid a glove on her.

      • swissik says:

        I have watched the same people also and I agree with your analysis 100%. As a citizen by choice and as a political junkie for decades I certainly would never have expected that the US government would become quite this dirty an enterprise where bureaucrats and unelected “officials” rule the roost. So sue me!

  114. strateshooter says:

    I feel sorry for Bill Barr.
    By now it is clear to many objective observers that the DNC/FBI/CIA/CNN etc. constructed a soft coup against Donald Trump and his supporters.
    They viewed his election as an insult and threat to their powers and wealth and their own entrenched views that Globalism was a good thing.
    But Barr/Durham are both long term establishment figures and so will be intuitively inclined to minimize the damage to their colleagues/friends , to the detriment of the Republic and all those who love it and have fought and died for it.
    I believe at the end of the day they will convince themselves that to tell the truth will do more harm than good.
    But to an observer…
    The Jan 17 ICA was a scam.
    The Russia Hoax was a scam.
    The DNC hack was a scam.
    The Ukraine Hoax is a scam.
    The level of corruption is now so obvious, so deep and so widespread that THOUSANDS of people in Washington DC would have to be removed from post/arrested + the CIA/FBI/DOJ etc would be massively damaged.
    How does America deal with that ? A plan to do so must be in place before/if the truth is ever presented or the aftershock will lead to violence (the MSM will lead the way and pit citizen against citizen).
    But (speaking personally) I just do not see how the truth could be presented and the shock handled without military actions and with a hostile/corrupt MSM running cover mode.
    To most Americans the truth would come as an absolute shock. They would not believe it and CNN would tell them it is all a lie and that Trump is a Nazi and is taking over the country.
    But they(the MSM) are the Nazis.
    Life is a bitch. And I am glad I am not William Barr.

    • lolli says:

      I have no sympathy for Barr. He set himself up to go in and cover up to protect the agencies. He cleared a path for mueller and Rosie to leave and transfer their investigation info to schifty and no nads. It continues, just under a different venue.
      McConnell would have never approved Barr if he didn’t trust Barr.
      This is just my opinion, and I still hold out hope, only because PT will keep the pressure on and expose so much, some action may be required, but only if they can’t rid themselves of the “outsider”.

      • You’re really not very bright. That’s what is obvious.

        • lolli says:

          Thanks for your opinion Fatman.
          Now, any actual argument to prove I am not very bright would add a little weight to your opinion. Until then, I think you might be an emotional type that just calls people names when they disagree.
          I welcome proof I am wrong. I want our Republic protected, and pray Barr is not Bondo Barr as Sundance has asserted. My grandkids future is at stake, I sure as heck do not want my view to be accurate.

        • willthesuevi says:

          Treepers may argue among themselves and we do love to discuss things pretty heatedly at times, but we don’t troll.
          Piss off.

          • willthesuevi says:

            Sorry lolli that was meant for fatman.
            Thought I would respond to him since I am the resident vulgarian, troglodyte.

            • lolli says:

              Thanks. I love to hear a rebuttal. I am begging for one. I want to be convinced I am wrong. Lol
              But just calling someone a name, makes me think of SJW’s. Weak.

    • willthesuevi says:

      Feel sorry for Bill Barr? Not hardly.
      If he is not chomping at the bit to clean this mess up he is the wrong guy for the job and should be cashiered.
      This is a defining moment in Barr’s life, and one he will be judged by forever. Any American who has worked his entire life for truth, justice and our legal system should see this as a fantastic challenge, and be eager to chew these bastards up.
      Any sympathy I have for Bill Barr can be found in the dictionary between sh*t and syphilis.

      • mark says:

        What doesn’t square with me, and this has been pointed out previously ,was Barr’s speech at Notre Dame on religious freedom. How can he square his religious beliefs and those remarks and at the same time not go after those who have destroyed the entire trust that Americans have in their election process and law enforcement agencies. He has a duty to the country and to God Almighty to bring justice to the scum who have perpetuated these illegal actions against America. Agreed…Barr will be judged in history forever on what course he takes on this.

    • TPW says:

      I don’t think John Q Public would give a rats ars if the CIA FBI DOJ were done away with tomorrow. Good by…..The only ones to care would be the beltway crooks who used these agencies for their own benefit and the life time employees whose job it is to continually recycle the same work product. Really don’t think the average citizen would go into shock.We could do away with half of the agencies tomorrow and they would not be missed. Dc has become a country unto itself serving no purpose but to just exist.

      • Somewhere in Dixie says:

        I have been saying the same TPW for a long time.

      • trump20162024 says:

        Seven of the top ten superzips (i.e. the wealthiest zip codes in America) are in the DC area. Since very little of real economic value is produced in that region, it is clearly a giant taxpayer subsidized gravy train. Therefore, it isn’t a surprise that the hag won 92% of the DC vote in 2016. A 50% haircut of the non-enlisted federal payroll would be a good start toward correcting this obvious threat to our freedom.

        • willthesuevi says:

          ” A 50% haircut of the non-enlisted federal payroll”
          Can you imagine what would happen to our economy? The amazing econ numbers we see now would look like foreplay. The DC Keynesian’s could never let that happen.
          But, we can dream, can’t we?

      • strateshooter says:

        I don’t think the people on this site would care….but many people are truly ignorant of what has transpired.
        As to Barr.I agree.I happen to think he could go down as a heroic figure.
        But apart from POTUS, Nunes etc I see no real heroes in DC , only corruption across the board. It is a f*cking cesspit.

    • CM-TX says:

      No worries- the Left’s foot soldiers only show up when paid to. They’re also very self-absorbed, so not really willing to risk any type of personal cost. Minus a handful of loonies.
      In other words, as much as they’d like to believe it– The Mobs are NOT going to come running to their defense, or rioting in the streets. They really need to stop buying their own propaganda they keep selling re. Their support. It’s BS.

  115. MLK says:

    Assange is in the category of aggressively pursued star witnesses that could bring Trump down. Indeed, the home run for them was breaking both Manafort and Assange, for a one-two punch combined big-lie.
    The story they apparently seeded was that Manafort secretly visited Assange to conspire on Trump’s direct orders. That, I believe. was the purpose of that strange Guardian leak along those lines.
    We can see the last ditch contours with this:
    “Manafort was jailed this year and was thought to have become a star cooperator in the Mueller inquiry. But on Monday Mueller said Manafort had repeatedly lied to the FBI, despite agreeing to cooperate two months ago in a plea deal.”
    The building blocks of this plan began in earnest with Obama’s surprise commutation days before leaving office of Chelsea Manning’s long sentence. What better tell of their bone-chilling planning than that it provided for Manning’s delayed release five months hence on May 17, 2017. I doubt I have to remind everyone what was happening then.
    So I think it’s fair to say that bringing down President Trump through a RussiaGate frame-up was aggressively pursued even after Mueller was appointed by Rosenstein. They failed to break either Manafort or Assange.
    This, I believe is the essential shrouded context of Comey’s firing and the Mueller/Rosenstein Oval Office meeting/surreptitious recording session.
    There is no way in the world the above timing was coincidental. Trump knew what they were about to execute. Imagine the firing Comey Obstruction of Justice allegation in the context of Manafort/Assange?

  116. Doug Amos says:

    When sewer rats and Rinos travel it is for 1 reason only; graft. People like Sundance expose them daily. Right now Biden’s son, Pelosi’s son, Kerry’s son, Schiff, Graham etc are running away as fast as they can. Poor old ‘Lijah’s mess was too big to clean up so he joined Einstein on the Seeya Express. Every time SoS Clinton visited a foreign country there was theft involved. The Deplorables have become 1 great big headache.

    • Clarissa says:

      Either graft, or they’re being blackmailed. The second case is perhaps an even more powerful motivator. The capabilities of the Deep State to spy on anyone, anyone at all, was greatly expanded after 9-11 and the Patriot Act. Consider the history of John Brennan and where he was working when the WTC and Pentagon were attacked that day.

      • CM-TX says:

        Having watched the Snowden/Rogan interview recently… he mentioned that day, how the CIA & NSA, etc. were all quickly shutdown & sent home, so running on skeleton crews. It bothered him given the type of attack, those who could’ve been most useful bailed when our national security needed them most.
        In hindsight, not surprising given what we know of today.

  117. willthesuevi says:

    Great Britain should be told this is our version of the Cambridge Five. We helped them with their scandal and they need to help with ours.
    The Five consisted of Donald Maclean, Guy Burgess, Kim Philby, Anthony Blunt, and John Cairncross. All communist spies and defectors. They did immense damage to western governments from WWII through the mid 1960’s.
    We have a few more than five but ours are just as despicable, maybe more so.
    Come on Boris. Get off your ass.

  118. kiswa15 says:

    All true…but there is something screwy about Manning.
    No way Bradley Manning was walking in and out of a SCIF at a FOB with a floppy disk, hacking and down loading, for months…no feaking way!
    He eventually pled guilty to it, got a sex change operation courtesy of the tax payers, files a law suit, gets his sentence commuted by Obama, and 6 months later drops the suit.
    Manning ‘s family is tied to British intelligence and he has ties to Arron Schwartz/ secure drop.
    There’s way more to Manning alleged hack/leak and Jullian Assange is not better off in the Ecuadorian embassy.
    The sunlight of a U.S. Court is exactly where this needs to be.

  119. ezduzit63 says:

    The evidence to the Spanish court also included a CIA plot to kidnap Assange, which went to the US authorities’ attitude to lawfulness in his case and the treatment he might expect in the United States.

  120. mostlyogauge says:

    Good googly moogly! This is like a story from a combination of Seven Days in May, Bourne, Bob Lee Swagger, Reacher, Clear and Present Danger, Patriot Games, and The Keystone Kops. A lot of people think that a lot of us Deplorables are pretty stupid. We may be ignorant of some of the facts, but we’re not stupid. Tom Clancy or Steven King couldn’t make this stuff up.

    • mugzey302 says:

      I was thinking that, too. My brothers were big Clancy fans, and I tried reading them but the plots seemed so convoluted and confusing so I gave up. I think I prefer the 30,000 foot view, rather than deep in the weeds of detail. That’s why I’m so grateful for Sundance’s work!

  121. Chris Cha says:

    Those U.S. intelligence services were seeking to do a “hatchet job” on the 2016 election and remove a duly elected president. They DESERVE to be investigated and prosecuted if they acted illegally – and they probably did.

  122. Randy Taketa says:

    Gina Haspell knew all of this shit going on all along!

  123. Eagle Soars says:

    I was a software developer for over 30 years. Altho it’s been awhile and hardware was never my focus, it was certainly the sea I swam in for half my life. You CANNOT read Donna Brazille’s book HACKED – a most benign recounting of her experiences – and come away with any impression other than Crowdstrike lied to her about the hack, the rationale they gave her for some practices was an outright lie, and therefore they were part of it. Inside job.

    • willthesuevi says:

      Thank you for taking one for the team.
      I will take your word for it. I don’t know one single thing about the “mechanics” of software development, and I will not give that woman one copper penny of my money intentionally.

  124. Kraig Gaston says:

    I would love for Sundance to look into the crystal ball and make some predictions of the justice we will see and when based upon his well-researched knowledge.

  125. arze says:

    There is good reason to suspect Great Britain as instigator in this perfidy.
    Whoever instigated this sedition must clearly be stated in any Barr/Durham report, irrespective of whatever other consequences may or may not come to pass.
    Of note is Gen. Flynn Attorney Powell’s request for: “The Letter from [UK’s] Sir Mark Lyall Grant to the Incoming National Security Team”. Powell’s court filing says this “Invalidates Any Use of Information from Christopher Steele, Further Undermines Any ‘Russia’ Connection, and is Being Suppressed” is huge.
    We need to see what that says. Is that an apologia from UK for their role, instigator role or back seat driver role?
    Following this UK action in Jan. 2017, British press said some things, played games really, and what we know now, sound even more ridiculous.
    According to a Guardian story, dated April 13, 2017, “British spies were first to spot Trump team’s links with Russia”
    What is laughable about this one is the quote/paraphrase in it that came straight from the British Intelligence service, stated as a fact, without evidence — and was reason for why this story ran:
    [[[It is understood that GCHQ was at no point carrying out a targeted operation against Trump or his team or proactively seeking information. The alleged conversations were picked up by chance as part of routine surveillance of Russian intelligence assets. Over several months, different agencies targeting the same people began to see a pattern of connections that were flagged to intelligence officials in the US. ]]]
    If the UK spooks were in fact, NOT up to no good, there’d be no reason at all to have their Guardian sock puppets write this propaganda. Shouldn’t it be “understood” that UK shouldn’t be interfering in a US election, particularly, interfering to Destroy Trump?
    They went and stuck their nose in where it didn’t belong, this much is a fact.
    A Guardian story a month earlier, March 17, 2017, has this as the first sentence:
    [[[British intelligence officials have denied an allegation that the UK helped former president Barack Obama “wiretap” Donald Trump during the 2016 election.]]]
    In fact, the story, within this story, there is no actual denial at all — there is no statement saying the British spooks did not, unequivocally, not do it, rather, it’s dismissed as “nonsense” that “should be ignored” — this from an un-named “GCHQ spokesperson”.
    [[[ “Recent allegations made by media commentator judge Andrew Napolitano about GCHQ being asked to conduct ‘wiretapping’ against the then president-elect are nonsense. They are utterly ridiculous and should be ignored.”]]]
    Maybe GCHQ is innocent, right?
    This story states: [[[Trump started the political firestorm in a series of tweets in early March, when he accused Obama of tapping his phones and called his predecessor a “bad (or sick) guy”. US officials called the allegation groundless.]]] Was Dear Eric C. among those “officials” — which begs the question: wasn’t Trump the president in charge? This nonsense is telling us US officials are, instead.
    The Guardian says in March 2017 story: [[[The president finds himself increasingly alone in his defence of his wiretapping claims. On Thursday, the Republican and Democratic leaders of the Senate intelligence committee joined their counterparts on the House intelligence committee in the conclusion that they had seen no evidence to support the president’s accusation.]]]

  126. covfefe999 says:

    Lots of Eeyores here today, I see.

    • willthesuevi says:

      I liked your comment and agree the downers can be…..well…..uh…. a downer.
      To be fair, I think all of us go thru some bad days. This is a monumental mountain of crap being thrown at us daily. At times it can be a challenge to be positive.
      Myself, I try to not post on those days.
      – Full disclosure. Several months back, on one of my bad Eeyore days I made a very public wager on this very board. One I hope to lose and intend to pay.

      • ann says:

        Will, you are certainly not alone re hasty posts & bad days. times I’ve pushed send while trying to delete.
        trying times, I make allowances and am grateful for the tolerance & patience of fellow treepeers. Wise bunch I try to hush up & Learn, then, well, it feels healthy to hear & speak freely. . ??. .,

  127. Road Rage says:

    So it will become clear that Russia did not interfere in the 2016 election at all. If the Internet Research Agency in Russia did anything(and it may be proven that they did not) it may have been done by U.S. double agents either there in St. Petersburg or U.S. agents posing as Russians in Ukraine. It thus appears that the entire Russian collusion hoax was a disinformation campaign by Brennan, quite possibly ordered by Obama that played on POTUS’s 30 year long good relations with Russia. I think that is where this whole thing is going. An indictment of Obama, knowing the best they can do is a hung jury, in 2021 is possible. Although that sets up a revenge indictment of Trump in 2025.

  128. BigTalkers says:

    In the past Mr Assange has claimed he possesses a “dead man’s switch,” meaning that should he meet an untimely demise, all of his investigative files would automatically be published. Perhaps that’s why he’s still with us.

    • BigTalkers says:

      However, Mr Assange is not the only one who knows how the DNC’s emails came into his possession… That would be the person(s) who gave them to him, assuming they’re still be able to tell us.
      Moreover, it’s certainly not beyond the pale this so-called theft of these electronic documents wasn’t the work of elements in our Intel community itself.

      • BigTalkers says:

        All of which leads us to the larger Question… With the limitless cyber tools now available to them, can we ever really hope to effectively reel in our nation’s own Deep State..??

      • kiswa15 says:

        It is all the work of “elements in our intel community” all of it…for the last 50 years.

        • BigTalkers says:

          And assuming that’s correct, even if those responsible this time are prosecuted, will that deter future Zealots from fantasizing they’re “above the law” when they consider doing it again..??

      • mugzey302 says:

        Didn’t Kim Dotcom jump into the fray, saying he had “proof” it was Seth?

      • Barnestormer says:

        Which implies that even if he were otherwise disposed to abandon the never reveal a source mantra to leverage a plea bargain, Assange cannot positively i.d. his direct source/provider without putting him at Seth Rich-scale risk.
        A risk, it could be said, to be substantially lessened with Rich’s killers identified, convicted and incarcerated.
        Under which circumstances, offering a substantial monetary reward for information leading to such a result strikes me as a very pragmatic idea.

  129. pucecatt says:

    Such a mess these people have made , it’s a travesty to what they’ve done to our President and their country , shameless ..

  130. hokkoda says:

    Kind of a side observation to all of this that I’ve made before, but Strzok was the head of the FBI’s counterintelligence division. I had a TS/SCI clearance for many years, and there are a few things you get told never to do because of the damage it can wreak on national security. One of those things is “have an affair”. Strzok’s affair led to messages he very much wishes he had never sent which unlocked an entire conspiracy to overturn a democratic election. Loose lips sink ships, as they used to say. I read recently that McCabe knew about the affair and had asked Page about it, and she lied to McCabe. I believe it was McCabe who said he’s not “the morality police” or some such.
    Well, when you’re dealing with affairs and targets for blackmail and all kinds of security lapses…then yes…it IS your job to be the morality police. In fact, we were often told that if we knew about such things we were to report them immediately.
    All this espionage stuff, and it gets unraveled by a horny guy with a clearance trying to impress a girl. And the best part is that it was Strzok’s job at FBI to find people like Peter Strzok. Or, to investigate people like Clinton for illegal disclosure of classified and operating a system outside of the firewalls which is a huge vulnerability.
    None of the rest of this stuff surprises me. But I did find this statement in the Independent report comforting, “they are basically asking, in quite robust terms, for help in doing a hatchet job on their own intelligence services”.
    If you, like me, still hold out the believe that the Barr/Durham thing is a sham…that statement should give you pause. It gave me pause. Whoever the leaker is, clearly is freaked out by whatever questions Durham/Barr asked. That’s good news.

    • dwpender says:

      James Baker testified before the House last fall (one of the transcripts Collins released) that he confronted Strozk and Page in substantially the manner you describe. “I’m not the morality police, but you both ought to know ‘people in the office are talking about it.’ ”
      I very much agree with your views about Strozk’s affair with Page leading him to recorded (texted) comments (not about intimacy, but about what the plotters were up to) that he now very much regrets. Trying to impress his beguiled “damsel in distress” caused him to put in writing, inter alia, “No, he won’t. We’ll stop it [Trump becoming President]” — this coming from the lead agent on Crossfire Hurricane targeting the Trump campaign.
      In a strange way, the Country owes Lisa Page a great debt of gratitude for her desirability, seductive skills and infidelity. Think of how much we would never have learned if Strozk had not (foolishly) memorialized so much in writing.
      I share your views, contrary to what many have expressed here, that there affair was a real one, and not a cover story.

      • hokkoda says:

        That’s the exact quote I had seen, so you must be correct about it being Baker not McCabe.
        The kind of things they were sending “in the clear” on their government phones are precisely why we have classified systems and rules about personal “moral” conduct. You don’t just evade those rules simply because it’s inconvenient to you. We typically think of violations in terms of national security…but what ended up happening is they blew up the operational security of the Get Trump operation. It’s just amazing to me how arrogant people at that level are. We joke about how the rules only apply to the “little people” when talking about Clinton’s email system. But the reality is that people like Strzok believe the same thing about themselves…so of course they’re going to exonerate Clinton! crazy

      • Barnestormer says:

        Baker’s also the legal paragon who testified to John Ratcliff that he believed Hillary should be criminally charged for mishandling classified information, but after arguing with others, changed his mind.

  131. Dan says:

    Are any of these data points connecting back to Seth Rich murder in a potentially substantial way? Does Assange have any real connectivity to those players?

  132. “The predicate for Robert Mueller’s investigation was specifically due to Russian interference in the 2016 election. The fulcrum for this Russia interference claim is the intelligence community assessment; and the only factual evidence claimed within the ICA is that Russia hacked the DNC servers; a claim only made possible by relying on forensic computer analysis from Crowdstrike, a DNC contractor.”
    Hence the Perma-Blob howling like a wounded beast when the President mentioned CrowdStrike in the phone call. They couldn’t care less about Biden. It was CrowdStrike.
    Because if it wasn’t Russia, it was Seth Rich. And if it was Seth Rich…
    13 days after the Tarmac Meeting. Coincidentally, Mr. Bond.

    • Dan says:

      Man… we were thinking the same thing…at the same time….freaky

    • BigTalkers says:

      I would agree, as Mr Assange subsequently offered a $50K Reward for information leading to the arrest of whoever murdered Mr Rich, who was obstensibly someone he didn’t even know!

  133. Rusty says:

    lets re-examine the DNC servers….if in fact it was the Russians so b it…but we all know it wasn’t them

  134. Mr e-man says:

    Interestingly, I saw where the Ecuadorian embassy was bugged by Western Intelligence. They have been listening in on every conversation Assange and have video.
    Yet at least three people said Assange told them stuff about the DNC hack. Rohrbacher, a journalist and Pamela Anderson. If so, then Brennan and Haspel already know the truth, or at least the secret Assange is holding on to.
    So there appears to be a game afoot.

    • BigTalkers says:

      Assuming Assange didn’t know they were listening in….
      And I don’t recall that he ever actually said who his source was.

  135. pristach says:

    The Brits, in their condescension, will never give up the information. They believe they are the inventors of spy craft and will only comply with more obfuscation.
    That’s why Brennan and office of net assesment ran it out of the UK.
    That special relationship is a bitch, ain’t she?

    • BigTalkers says:

      Perhaps, but it wouldnt hurt their nation’s future economic prospects to befriend the Yanks once the Brexit issue is resolved….

  136. mugzey302 says:

    Assange wants to talk to President Trump ~ why can’t that happen? Assange took a breath-taking chance, taking Seth Rich’s data dump. And it has effectively exposed high crimes by many people. He may have specific info for our President that he needs to know. Assange should be in the U.S. (with a LOT BETTER security than Epstein had).

    • BigTalkers says:

      Maybe he’s safer where he is then.
      And the real danger as I see it would be if our IC ever got hold of ALL of his investigative documents. There’d be no telling what chaos they could then sew worldwide.

  137. MickB says:

    “The $64,000 dollar question is: will they say so publicly?”
    My guess is, not completely. That would be too damaging but that also means that Barr and Durham are, to whatever extent, compromised.

    • BigTalkers says:

      Or they enjoy breathing…?
      As i recall, after this CIA caper began to go bust, Mr Mifsud reportedly went underground in Italy, going so far as to assume a new identity and leave a “farewell tape” with his attorney.

  138. John Rawls says:

    Every time Trump mentions the server, MSM freaks out. Simple search reveals a concerted MSM effort to classify Trump’s questions about the Crowdstrike server as ‘a conspiracy theory’.
    Apparently it’s a touchy subject.

  139. dwpender says:

    I am very dubious that Assange can supply any “proof” of use to investigators (let alone admissible evidence for Barr/Durham) on Wikileaks’ source(s). Assange was confined to the Ecuadorian embassy. He surely had NO secure communication by phone, cellphone or internet. I further suspect that GHCQ (once the Obama Administration demanded it) had pulse transmitters or other super-high-tech listening devices implanted in the Embassy that covered every inch over which Assange might wonder and capture every word he uttered.
    How then did Assange come to learn how Wikileaks came into possession of the DNC and Podesta materials? The only possibility is that some Wikileaks agent or go between was entering the Embassy (again GHCQ would know of EVERY such entrant) and (1) handing Assange handwritten notes (or using some other sign language) or (2) more likely, giving him zip drives or some such items that Assange then viewed on a dead (not internet-connected) device.
    In other words, whatever information Assange got on sourcing is second or third hand, or worse. To prove a case, Barr/Durham will need testimony from the Wikileaks agent who received the pilfered materials from the “source(s).” Is this individual willing to testify? Is he even subject to U.S. compulsory process? Even if both answers are yes, is he credible? Is any of his information corroborated by other persons with personal knowledge who can establish authenticity and a chain of custody?
    I’m not convinced the official DC lines — that Wikileaks got its info from Russian Government emissaries, and that the Russians “hacked” the DNC are correct. OTOH, the criminality that those in our intelligence and investigative agencies engaged to defeat a Presidential candidate, and later to undermine a President-elect and a President, exists EVEN IF the DC lines on Wikileaks and Russian hacking are true. Let’s not bite off more than we need to by embracing whatever Assange claims.

  140. Assange should be given immunity and put into witness protection.

  141. Somebody's Gramma says:

    In my humble opinion: Assange would already be dead if the DOJ didn’t want him alive. Sick, isn’t it? Remember Murderess Hillary, “can’t we drone him or something?”. The corruption makes me so angry. If it weren’t for Trump constantly speaking directly to us, Sundance and many other researchers seeking the truth, and the Trump rallies, I’d completely despair. I pray Barr does the right thing. I pray for Justice and healing for our country. And I don’t mean a slap on the wrist justice. I want these people in jail. This is America, gosh darnit!! We’re not supposed to have a two (or three or four) tiered justice system!! We’re not supposed to have a Ruling Class!! I’d be arrested and thrown in the clink for a fraction of what these people have done. These elites think they can ruin peoples lives, have them murdered, locked up, etc for the only sin of not playing along with their corruption. It’s a Mafia, a Cartel… Not trying to be a Concern Troll. Just a really pissed off born free American woman.

  142. The Akh says:

    Assange won’t bow on principle. He won’t identify sources dead or alive, because that jeopardizes everything he stands for and against. He shouldn’t need to! He has the meta data and evidence to show that it was not a hack. End of that lie.

    • Justin Green says:

      Then he’s not for government transparency like he says he is.
      IF his source is dead because Debbie Wasserman or Hillary had him offed, I would think I’d make an exception about outing the source posthumously.

      • JackB says:

        Wikileaks was all about protecting confidentiality of sources. Any break from that principle ends Wikileaks purpose as no government source would risk their personal lives.
        Assange like Snowden have paid a huge personal price for the courage to disclose to the American people the lies, corruption and perfidy of their government.
        No one is standing up for them including President Trump.

    • Deep State specializes in seeing that true evidence does not see the light of day.

  143. Darren says:

    Guys the NSA knows if the DNC was hacked. No one seems to have asked them but a big tell is thier lack of confidence in the ICA. I think it’s funny Trump didn’t ask for a new assessment.

  144. tozerbgood8315 says:

    Sorry, am I the only one that sees the logic problem with this assessment? Because if Assange had proof, there is no logical reason that I can see why he wouldn’t have released that proof for the public to see well before he got arrested… or even after.
    Or is he using it as leverage to get a lenient sentence?

    • Sentient says:

      His access to the internet was ended well before the Ecuadorians coughed him up to the Brits. He may have may have stuck with his “we don’t out our sources” for just a little too long. He may also have calculated that releasing proof that it wasn’t a Russian hack may have directly implicated American Intelligence Community personnel and he might have been murdered in retaliation. At this point he might have no means by which to trigger a “dead hand switch” – and it also may have been successfully disabled by the IC. Meanwhile they keep him in jail until they can announce that he died of natural causes or maybe they’ll suicide him like they did Epstein. If he were to be pardoned, he’d probably get murdered by the IC in short order. The only way he can live out his days is if he’s pardoned and is somehow immediately spirited away to the only safe country on Earth: Russia.

      • tozerbgood8315 says:

        Once the news was out (if he did indeed had proof and had hypothetically released it) – there would have been no reason to murder him. In fact there’s MORE reason for murdering him now than there would have been (if he had released it).
        Guess I’m just not seeing much evidence that he does in fact have any proof.
        Someone earlier mentioned Barr saying that Russia had hacked the DNC, and until he says otherwise, I’m going with that,
        And of course… this…

  145. 8675310 says:

    That question is not worth a dime. Barr won’t say anything. Assange ties the deep state to the Seth Rich murder. Assange has confirmed, twice, that I know of, that his source was Seth Rich and Seth’s brother Aaron. Barr covered up the Epstein murder. He will continue the coverup of the Seth Rich murder.

  146. namberak says:

    Reading this piece and many of the comments, it occurs to me (and to many of you too, I imagine) that if you wrote this up as a screen play, you couldn’t sell it anywhere. Too complicated, too many villains, a handful of sketchy maybe murders, a couple of maybe heroes but only one hero (so far …). You just couldn’t get it on a screen …

  147. Steven a joseph says:

    Typo: Approximately, not appropriately, the same time.

  148. I still want to know what we don’t know yet about the Page FISA warrant. Nunes says that that is the subject matter that he believes is referred to as the insurance policy. And that it will shock us when/if it’s revealed.

  149. flowerbelle says:

    It’s already in the warner/Waldman encrypted texts.
    Who is “our guy” who could take down “obama, the cia, and the dems”?
    The emails were not hacked. They were given to Assange.
    Why no deadman’s switch?

  150. CountryDoc says:

    Vermin. Educated, Frat Boys, holding grudges. More dangerous than the Drug Cartels, or the MS13, Bloods, or Cripps. More power than the Mafia.
    What is the psychology of how they find each other? How do they communicate? How to they dream up these schemes? What motivates them?
    My eyes were opened by the videos on another thread by Steve Hilton asking an interviewer about the flow of money to the Bidens and Kerrys to Ukraine then the Biden company, then back to the families of the politicians who sent the money.

  151. Bryan says:

    I wrote about this in April on my Facebook page. Pence is involved! Give this a read! https://www.facebook.com/1333693461/posts/10214721211607272?d=n&sfns=mo

  152. JCLincoln says:

    Brennan and Strzok wanted Assange arrested so they could suicide him in prison ….. like Epstein.

  153. Pray warriors pray for Assange’s divine protection daily. We have weapons that none of our enemies can destroy. Praise GOD forevermore

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