Majority Leader Eric Cantor’s 2014 Loss – And The Origin of Paul Ryan as Speaker…

El RushboRush Limbaugh had an interesting segment on his radio show yesterday.  Mr. Limbaugh is beginning to connect the dots to the origin of the GOPe road map, constructed between October ’13 and April ’14, which we tried to bring attention to prior to the mid-term 2014 primary races.

Limbaugh’s overall analysis is solid, except he’s missing some of the substantive dot connections which stem around what he calls “a seminal event“, Cantor’s defeat.

[…] I think there was a seminal event in the House of Representatives that happened in 201[4] that blew up a lot of plans, and that was Eric Cantor losing.  That shocked everybody, as you recall.  Cantor was a member of the Republican leadership, and Cantor was moving the donor class agenda.  Cantor losing was a huge blow to the leadership’s ties to the donor class.  And as you and I well know, the donor class runs the Republican Party today, not the voters.

(Read the full analysis HERE)

The overall substance of what Limbaugh is saying is correct. However, he’s missing some critical aspects and misidentifying “the donor class“.

It is not the “donor class” per se’ as a random group of rich contributors running the Republican party today, it’s specifically Tom Donohue and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce – or, put another way, Wall Street interests.

We can prove it:

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Mr. Tom Donohue, working with Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, is the origin of the 2013 construct which created the primary apparatus of 2014 and ultimately led to the creation of the 2016 GOPe road map for Jeb Bush.

It was Donohue and his CoC who met privately with McConnell, Cornyn, Boehner and Cantor between October 2013 and April 2014 to construct the 2014, 2015 legislative priorities of the republican party in congress.

The U.S. Chamber of Commerce 2014/15 goals:

      • The full implementation of ObamaCare without adjustment. (link)
      • Comprehensive Immigration Reform – to include Amnesty for illegal aliens. (link)
      • Support for full delivery of Federal Common CORE education standards.  (link)
      • Support for the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal (TPP which led to TPA)

You’ll note all of these legislative priorities are also supported by Paul Ryan; and it was Ryan who pushed the TPA through in the House of Representatives.

Yes, it was specifically, the loss of Eric Cantor in June ’14 which sent a thunder-shock through the GOPe apparatus, and ultimately led to the vitriolic panic evidenced in the Mississippi Senate race (Thad Cochran VS Chris McDaniel).

[…] NRSC Executive Director Rob Collins said in a statement that the committee will “continue to fully support Thad Cochran.” And the heavy-spending U.S. Chamber of Commerce signaled a similar commitment; one of its top political officials, Rob Engstrom, tweeted that the business lobby will “stand by Senator Cochran.” (link)

However, the decision of the party apparatus to work against the best interests of conservative principles was made much earlier than Cantor’s loss.  Cantor’s loss was partially a consequence of those earlier decisions.  Remember:

APRIL 2014 – Dear Majority Leader Cantor:

Conservative leaders were stunned to learn that you will be headlining a conference in Florida this weekend that is, purely and simply, a direct attack on Tea Party conservatives. Worse still, this event is sponsored in part by ultra-liberal financier/activist George Soros and organized labor – both of which have openly, repeatedly – and often viciously – waged war on conservatives and Republicans for years.

What has possessed you to headline this event? Do you think so little of conservatives that you would directly insult them by attending?

Since Mitt Romney’s defeat in the 2012 presidential election a substantial rift has opened between the GOP’s congressional leadership and rank-and-file Republicans, grassroots conservatives and Tea Party supporters – the very activists who provided the energy, enthusiasm and mobilization that fueled the historic Republican victory in 2010 and gave you and your colleagues the House majority you hold today. You would not be Majority Leader today but for Tea Party conservatives. And you’re headlining an event sponsored by a leftist organization committed to its destruction.  (more)

Remember too, Cantor’s wife worked for Tom Donohue and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.

CoC Diana CantorEric and Diane Cantor

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Going back to the 2013 time-frame again – Again, focus on the tentacles of Tom Donohue and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce upon Boehner, Cantor, McConnell and Cornyn:

[…]  Sixteen months ago, mustering support from tea party activists and Christian conservatives, the attorney general of Virginia, Ken Cuccinelli’s,  backers forced a convention, instead of a primary.   This worked around the establishment control and wrestled the nomination away from establishment favorite Lt. Gov. Bill Bolling.

Bolling was the chosen “next-in-line” favorite guy of every Republican party insider.  Upon losing the nomination, Bolling did what all establishment Republicans do when they are defeated, Bolling refused to endorse Cuccinelli.   Joining him were numerous establishment Republican mayors and numerous former Republican legislators.

The GOP establishment machine decided to do what they do best, burn down the house rather than give up the keys upon ideological eviction.

According to the Washington Post reviewFour years ago, McDonnell’s largest single donor other than Republican Party organizations was the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, which spent $973,000 on his campaign. This year, the chamber gave Cuccinelli nothing.    (link)

You see, the construct of the larger GOPe plan goes back much further than the loss of Eric Cantor’s seat to David Brat.  Cantor was an outcome of the deception which was pre-planned much much earlier than his June ’14 loss.

So yes, Rush Limbaugh is correct when he says the decision to use Paul Ryan as Speaker of the House was a pre-determined decision much earlier than evidenced.   But what Limbaugh is missing is the origin of when exactly the fork in the road was created.

The decision point, the moment when the GOPe made the decision to use any and all means necessary to defeat their own base, revolves around the moment the legislative priorities of Tom Donohue took precedent, period.

When reading Limbaugh’s diatribe, you must replace “Donor Class” with “The U.S. Chamber of Commerce”, then things will begin to make sense.

Paul Ryan is as much a part of the legislative team who are working to fulfill those CoC objectives as Cantor and Boehner.

That’s why, when Kevin McCarthy withdrew his name on the day of the election, Speaker Boehner immediately cancelled the vote despite there being two other names available for immediate consideration.  The Speaker vote had to be cancelled because the GOPe needed the name of a GOPe participant for consideration who is part of the Donohue plan.

That’s why we are getting Paul Ryan.

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CAN YOU HEAR US NOW !! <–READ

( ↑ That 2013 LINK is why we were yelling when no-one would believe ↑ )

Just a Reminder, this is an insurgency. – The modern enemy of Wall Street is Main Street vulgarians. The enemy of the RNC/GOPe is not Democrats, it’s Grassroots Conservatives, more vulgarians.

The Republican Party, and the Republican media apparatus, view us as their enemy. We are the enemy they need to protect themselves from:

In 2014, the RNC approved selection rules that govern how each state’s delegates are portioned out from the primaries. Under one of the changes, states holding their primaries between March 1 and March 14 will have their delegates doled out proportionately with election results, a change that will likely stymie a movement candidate.

States that have primaries on or after March 15 will be winner-take-all states.

That’s important because another RNC rule change requires that a candidate must win a majority of delegates in eight or more states before his or her name may be presented for nomination at the 2016 Republican National Convention.

With 18 GOP presidential candidates, for now, it will be that much harder for any candidate to win a majority in any state, let alone eight. (Article July 2015)

GOP-versus-Tea-PartyNow, ask yourself, why would the RNC want to “stymie a movement candidate“? Who exactly does that benefit? Obviously, the “non-movement” candidate, ie “the turtle“.

Isn’t the entire reason for campaigning in Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina etc. to make a movement/momentum?

In addition Rule #40 changed in 2014 from previously five needed state wins, to a newer threshold of eight (8):

Officially, it’s Rule 40 in the RNC handbook and it states that any candidate for president “shall demonstrate the support of a majority of the delegates from each of eight (8) or more states” before their name is presented for nomination at the national convention. (article March 2014)

Again, ask yourself who does this benefit? A candidate can win seven states outright, and still not have their name presented for nomination?

These rules were made/affirmed in 2014 – Who or what exactly was the GOP concerned about blocking in 2016 that would necessitate such rules? When combined with other rule changes you can clearly identify a consolidation of power within the RNC apparatus intentionally constructed to stop the candidate of the GRASSROOTS from achieving victory.

It’s all part of their GOPe Roadmap.

♦ Reference and Resources – (links to internal MSM references are contained within prior outlines): RNC Rule Changes RNC Rule Battles

  1. Following The Money
  2. The GOPe Roadmap
  3. ♦ The Roles of The Players – “The Splitters
  4. ♦ How each candidate is aligned in the Roadmap
  5. ♦ Arrow #1 Trump Hits The Super-PACs – The GOPe Achilles Heel
  6. ♦ Arrow #2 Trump Hits Bush – Inside The Wall Street Fortress
  7. ♦ Arrow #3 Trump Cuts Off Rubio/Bush switch – The GOPe Switch
  8. ♦ The Rick Perry Tripwire Exposed – DC Super-Pac
  9. ♦ Jeb Bush Super-Pac Will immediately spend $10 Million
  10. ♦ Proving there is only one political party in Washington DC
  11. ♦ Why Support Trump – Part One (The GOPe Ruse)
  12. ♦ Why Support Trump – Part Two (Stop being played)
  13. ♦ Why Support Trump – Part Three (Intellectual Details)
  14. ♦ How To Defeat the GOPe Road Map
  15. ♦ Current Polling Exposes – the Ohio, Florida, Texas, Virginia, New York Splitters
  16. ♦ Florida Polling Exposes – Donald Trump defeating Jeb’s Florida Strategy
  17. ♦ Rush Limbaugh Discusses/AffirmsThe “splitter strategy”
  18. ♦ The Biden Paradox – Trump Winning Means Clinton Must Be Removed
  19. ♦ Salem Media Communications (GOPe Media Arm) Launches Attack
  20. ♦ Open Letter To GOPe – The Conservative Frustration
  21. ♦ Why The GOPe Will Never Stop Attacking Donald Trump
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222 Responses to Majority Leader Eric Cantor’s 2014 Loss – And The Origin of Paul Ryan as Speaker…

  1. ssupsky says:

    These dastardly folks hopefully will get a thrashing as long as we can get Mr. Trump in office. It shall be a long uphill fight and our last stand.

    Thank you again sundance for your informative articles and insight.

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    • phil fan says:

      Let me add my thanks and appreciation as well Sundance. I’ll do some studying and learn what you have presented so elegantly here. Empowering! Action plans. Clear analysis of what we face. And how we got here. Who our friends and enemies are. Leadership from you and we have our candidate who also knows something about leadership.

      God willing we will prevail

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      • fred says:

        we will NEVER prevail if we are not so careful unlike the Tea party who aligned with people who formed a bogus caucus with the idea of betrayal later. It sounded so good …the Freedom party…. yet they were mostly all snakes in the grass. It’s hard to believe they were not recognized for what that are. A lot like a fake preacher who tells you he’s a man of God then steals your grandmothers inheritance by telling her she will go to heaven. Take a look we are insurgents and surrounded by very cleaver operatives acting like conservatives waiting for the signal to activate. Ryan and Cantor really got us back in a big way and gonna make every so called conservative pay dearly for booting Cantor. Better watch your back people they are coming for Trump and the Brutus is among you. You need to recognize the enemy a lot quicker.

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    • kallibella says:

      I also say, “Thank you, Sundance!” If it weren’t for you, I’d be supporting Cruz or even Rubio.(I didn’t like Jeb! from the beginning).

      This road map to defeat and discourage a grassroots candidate makes all the sense in the world. Historically, we can also see how this type of effort has been very active in America in various forms.
      ;In our most recent history, our voice was first shouted on the floor of the Chicago Mercantile Exchange by Rick Santelli.

      Our voice and force coalesced somewhat then and picked up steam and continues. Yes! It is an uprising of grassroots patriots who see how our country’s founding ideals continue to be trashed by those who just want to keep a permanent underclass and line their pockets with money for the rest of their live. We are the peons and, according to them; we were created to serve them!!!!
      We literally mean nothing to them. They have sold their souls to the highest bidder and our country be damned!

      But, let’s also keep in mind that the forces to destroy America comprise a multi-pronged effort. Add to the mix the destructive forces aligned America’s sovereignty coming from sharia and the invasion and islamization Oevil wants for this country, and illegal immigration and more.

      We have seen how this movement to destroy America, in whatever form it takes, has infiltrated all levels of our government. Easy example: Parents can’t even pack lunch for their children unless it meets the established standard as per Moochelle. Common Core. Multiculturalism instead of math, reading and writing. Femeninezation of our boys. Masculinization of our girls, and on and on…

      The USA is the exception to the rule of human existence. There are many forces aligned against us. Patriots know this and see it in daily life.
      We need Trump.

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      • ❤ Rick Santelli❤ I think I’m in LOVE! What they are calling a “rant,” is really a very eloquent impassioned speech. Gosh don’t ya just love truth served passionate style?
        I wonder if he likes Trump? Didn’t see much online about it. But looks like he is going to ask “additional questions at the next debate on 10/28.”

        Ref:
        “The debate has been branded as the “Your Money, Your Vote” debate, with a focus on the economy, job growth, taxes, technology, retirement and the health of our national economy. CNBC anchors John Harwood, Carl Quintanilla and Becky Quick will moderate, with Rick Santelli, Sharon Epperson and Jim Cramer asking additional questions.”

        Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/gop-debate-cnbc-undercard-candidates-polls-214290#ixzz3pPTJgagS

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      • Gray Delany says:

        There is nothing better than people that work in Wall St and then recognize how corrupt they are and that they are leading this country towards the next financial crisis.

        Please read the new book on how the grassroots took out Cantor and do the same to you local RINO. Our country depends on it.

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    • JoeBal says:

      Limbaugh seems moderately intelligent yet he consistently falls for the establishment gope misdirection, he continues to believe and help pedal the nonsense that Cheney spews attempting to defend the ridiculous mideast invasion. We now know that Iraq was a mistake not just in WMD boogie man scheme but from a globalist strategy that has had full support from the Wall street-donor class.

      I think Trump is a sign that at least some “Republicans” are starting to out grow this nonsense but clearly there are many who, like those plugged into the matrix too long, are now “dependent on the system” and will defend it to the end.

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      • Guest says:

        “Limbaugh seems moderately intelligent yet he consistently falls for the establishment gope misdirection..”

        So much so that I have often wondered if he himself is not a snake in the grass.

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        • JoeBal says:

          “So much so that I have often wondered if he himself is not a snake in the grass.”

          Can’t say about that, but I think he talks the “RINO” talk enough to know he doesn’t have much faith in standard politicians of either party now, again his mistake is that somehow being “more conservative” means a smaller less interventionist government, which is just not the case.

          The Repbulicans problem is that they are not Libertarians or Libertarian enough.

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          • Gray Delany says:

            Limbaugh had an epiphany last year. I think he is on our side.

            Please read the new book on playbook of how the grassroots defeated RINO Cantor. If you read it, let me know what you think. No more RINOs!

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    • Doodahdaze says:

      I wonder if the Republicans have figured out yet. Without us they are Bernie Fodder.

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    • BigMamaTEA says:

      I’m going to interrupt this discussion…..to wave hello to someone special who I know is reading tonight.

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    • Gray Delany says:

      My partner in crime from the Dave Brat race and I just released a book on how we took out Cantor. It is meant to serve as a how to guide so that we can defeat more of these RINO sell outs around the country. The depth that Cantor went to in order to hold on to his seat was sickening. http://www.howtobagarino.com

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  2. Doodahdaze says:

    The Republican Party has represented the U.S. business class for years. Also the more affluent, and middle class, and those who believe more in ordered liberty than total incorporation in the law. Since the advent of NAFTA, WTO, and the global trade agenda these interests have diverged. This has resulted in the current conflict within the party. You can not serve two masters.

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    • Robin says:

      This analysis is missing a crucial component of the GOPe agenda that also governs what is going on in the states and localities. The passage and signing of WIOA–the Workforce Innovation and Opportunity Act in summer 2014. http://www.invisibleserfscollar.com/priority-economic-citizenship-for-some-officially-sanctioned-status-as-prey-for-most-of-us/ was literally the first article or post to cover this crucial legislation that no one wants to discuss. It literally installed economic fascism throughout the US.

      The state plans are due by March 2016 and there are webinars going on now to make sure the local boards are being established as commanded. Secondly, building on the WIOA mandated Sector Strategies and the Common Core’s actual agenda to make K-12 education workforce development, the US Chamber Foundation in fall 2014 released Managing the Talent Pipeline with this education=workforce development=planned economic development at the state and regional levels agenda.

      GOPe is quite aware of this agenda and it is why it loves to describe WIOA as “Bipartisan and bicameral” like most federal legislation only passes in one chamber.

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    • truthandjustice says:

      Yes – goes back many years. Speaking of “Socialism/Internationalism” -thought this was a good explanation of what happened that too many don’t know:

      RINOs (Establishment) are Neo-Con Trotskyites– Socialism and Internationalism (Globalists):

      “..those who have become leaders in today’s R.. party.. under the guise of neo-cons Irving Kristol and William F. Buckley, who emasculated true old right conservatism, slithered into the Republican party as “moderates.” They stole the name of “conservative” and seized intellectual control of the true conservatives, as well as the entire Republican party.

      The current followers of Trotskyite socialism and internationalism are the neo-conservatives. Most have no objection to steering America away from personal freedom and national independence and literally undermining and eroding the people’s freedom. There are several books which expose the reality of the Republican neo-con Trotskyites. Undeniably the best, is John McManus’s brilliant book, “William F. Buckley, Pied Piper for the Establishment.”

      ..the vast majority of Republicans, both those in Congress, the White House, and the governor’s mansions, are neo-con Trotskyites. This is why they have no chutzpah, no backbone, no stalwart stand for Constitutional rights. They are holding the door open for the far left’s agenda. They are the false friends, and they are more dangerous than an open enemy.

      http://newswithviews.com/Nelson/kelleigh191.htm

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    • JoeBal says:

      “…these interests have diverged. – …. You can not serve two masters.”

      entirely correct, and now it’s down to understanding which “R” will lie through their teeth and claim to represent “the people” while selling us down the river and which ones are sincere. So far there don’t seem to be any in the later group.

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    • Gray Delany says:

      Did you ever read the story on how Cantor changed the language of the Stop Trading on Congressional Knowledge Act to allow spouses and family members to inside trade? These sell outs have no conscience. They have to be defeated, our country depends upon it. Read the book on how the grassroots took out RINO Cantor and then do the same to your local RINO http://howtobagarino.com/

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  3. flitetym says:

    Am I nuts? Why does all this manuvering by the well-heeled remind me of National Socialism?

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    • Doodahdaze says:

      National Socialism was different. It was nation centric. Within Germany. What we have here is more like International Socialism. International entities influencing our national elections. Foreign entanglements sound familiar?

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      • Melania for 1st Lady says:

        Doodahdaze, you are quite correct. What we have now is almost the exact opposite of National Socialism – there’s nothing NATIONAL whatsoever about our current system (though there is some crony capitalism……uh, I mean socialism). It is globalism or “International Socialism” as you say, and it doesn’t work very well.

        Lots of international entities, multi-national companies with no allegiance to America and the American people, and lots of foreign nations have a tremendous impact on our politics and our policies. Some more than others.

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        • Doodahdaze says:

          I think so too. That is where the conflict of interest is, Donors v. Voters. The GOP could survive without the donors, but not without the voters. They represent the donors and try to “govern” their voters. I want representation, not governance. JMO. They are in a bind.

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          • The RNC’s move away from championing individual liberty and American exceptionalism, toward former President GHW Bush’s “New World Order” has reached a breaking point. ObamaCare, illegal immigration, foreign “refugees” coming into our country, massive taxation, suffocating regulations, political correctness, civil unrest and violence toward police officers…. we simply cannot abide this crap any longer. We must take back our country.

            I’d say we have been poorly served & represented by our political class – EXCEPT – we have NOT been served at all. The contempt oozing from every pore of The Ruling Class is unacceptable. The betrayal of average, typical Americans, who just want to be left alone to conduct their lives in a righteous manner, has become intolerable.

            We have had ENOUGH! We are NOT for sale, our nation is NOT for sale. We don’t give a damn how much money the donor class throws at our politicians, we cannot be bought! NO SALE!

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            • jackphatz says:

              The GOPe & CofC is out to continue the societal destroying fundamental transformation Obama initiated.

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            • fred says:

              Then trying to work with a group who hates you and will be in constant conflict with having to watch every move and dirty trick is no way go to through your political life. It causes way too much stress in your life and will make you sick. It should work like….. you elect a man of honor who sticks to his word and promises, and you can count on him representing your interests automatically. Instead we have these kabuki fan dancers engaged in tricking us with a million alibis why they betrayed us again. Time to leave the relationship…. Your not gonna change this GOP from within it will only bring you grief. Shake it down and start a new.

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            • Gray Delany says:

              The voters in the 7th District had enough and they decided to do something about it by organizing and throwing out Eric Cantor. It has to be done again and again all over the country. Read the book on how it was done. It is a fun read. http://howtobagarino.com/

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          • Betty says:

            “They represent the donors and try to “govern” their voters.”

            It is hard to believe you said all that in only 10 words.

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          • Betty says:

            Would you please use that clarity of mind to find a term for these people – none we have used so far seem adequate or work. Donors – would include me and others who have no meeting ground what so ever with these people. Socialist -no, International Socialist – no, those terms seem to imply there is concern for anyone beyond themselves.

            Globalists – no, a fancy term that our fake intellectuals and entertainers could be tricked into trying to apply to them selves while they fanned themselves so that, not only us but they themselves, could get a better smell of their phenomenal goodness. (that was fun to write, but see how many words I had to use).

            So what is a term – global-us – too tricksey, and doesn’t describe the exclusivity of this group. Who are the people who live in space while earth supplies their needs but rots while doing it?

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            • Doodahdaze says:

              Collaborationists?
              collaborator |kəˈlabəˌrātər|
              noun
              1 a person who works jointly on an activity or project; an associate: his collaborator on the book.
              2 a person who cooperates traitorously with an enemy; a defector: he was a collaborator during the occupation.

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          • Lee says:

            Well said. I often wonder how long it’s been since we had any real representation. Anybody remember all those small foreign donations into Obutthead’s 2008 campaign? LOTS of them, and highly illegal.

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      • Kauf Buch says:

        “International Socialism” is also known as COMMUNISM
        (think of their anthem, “The Internationale”),
        as “National Socialism” is often associated with FASCISM.

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      • notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital says:

        Remember how just last year Obama sent his personal election campaign advisers to sabotage Israel’s elections?

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    • notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital says:

      Remember George W. starting to use the phrase “Der…er…The Fatherland” after his 9/11?

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    • gainny says:

      The techniques to seize power are the same.

      Watch the video of Monckton at https://cfrankdavis.wordpress.com/2015/10/22/various-news-items-3/. It’s about the UN’s long-planned power grab to be an unelected, unaccountable one-world government. The venue is the upcoming Paris climate change/global warming conference in December. Any one objection could derail it, which is why they had to remove Abbott in Australia and Harper in Canada. They are all making money off the climate boondoggle.

      Monckton describes how the Nazis steamrollered the opposition, using propaganda techniques we see used today–vilifying opponents to drive them out of public life and send a message to others, until they could actually kill them.

      Monckton seems to be a shrewd negotiator himself. He says every treaty must contain a secession clause, so if a nation doesn’t like what it has gotten itself into, it can give notice and leave. (If a nation wants to leave the EU, alas, it must get permission from the other EU members. Stupid!) This must be part of the treaties O. is getting us into. No secession clause, no treaties!

      (His other negotiating tip is always make two demands, one intended to be turned down. You get what you want, but the other guy can claim he turned you down.)

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  4. Doodahdaze says:

    Note…Rule 40 can be altered prior to the convention by the RNC. They could change the threshold from eight states to more than it if they wish to have a brokered convention. Its their party and they can lie if they want to. Political party rules are not legal rules. They are “flexible.”

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    • liberty2828 says:

      Good one Doodahdaze.
      “Its their party and they can lie if they want to.”

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    • looks like we need to go to the prayer closet on this one folks! Ask our Father God to not let them get away with their wicked plans! Lots of things can be changed through prayer, in Jesus’ Name, especially those things where we have no physical abilities to reach. He CAN!

      God especially despises lies so we already have a good case!

      “There are six things that the Lord hates, seven that are an abomination to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, a false witness who breathes out lies, and one who sows discord among brothers.”
      [Proverbs 6:16-19]

      Interesting our subject enemy is collectively guilty of not one but ALL SEVEN!

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  5. yohio says:

    What a day today. To see the lies and the vile people involved in the benghazi cover up and know they will probably never be charged, and he** might even become president, to the manipulation and influence of the CoC to try to give us the AMNESTY and TPP loving Ryan. It’s days like this you start to wonder if things can ever really be changed. There is just so much money involved and to many crooked and morally bankrupted people any more in this country to probably ever be able to change it. These morons are going to pass whatever they can before the election, try to cheat there way until the end to steal the nomination, and if some how trump wins they will make sure he will never be allowed to accomplish anything. Please if anyone out there today I need a little encouragement and maybe a slap to get me back on track to continue this fight. This stuff can be a downer some days I don’t know how Sundance can always do this without ever seeming to get down.

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    • be says:

      God is in charge. Never forget that.

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    • phil fan says:

      The battle for our way of life and our liberty is joined. No way we can retreat from those who menace us and they are many. At times it is a scary political, intellectual and emotional war. We must stand and face them, what choice do we have?

      When I sense evil lurking around in this political space, and often in ordinary life, I affirm:

      “I face evil with my calm courage”

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    • What we feel as “OVERWHELMING” is a snap for the LORD God. And He very much wants us to ask Him for help in those times. When we do feel overwhelmed, it is usually us not trusting God and so we begin to tackle HIS job. Suddenly we feel it is not our job to solve and tackle the entire avalanche. But as the other Treepers said: He’s got it covered!

      Now, imagine a parade. You standing there and you see float by float, procession by procession pass you by. We can only see what is in our vision field, in front of us and a little of what is coming and what has already passed us by. Ah but the all knowing Source of Life, our Creator, our Father, He is above this looking down and can see the entire parade from start to finish, beginning to end, His vision field is limitless. Of course He also can see within and each individual mind and soul as well.

      That is what is so wonderful about a new day. Many times when we are overwhelmed we should just stay the course, do not allow FEAR to enter, and go about our daily business and exert self discipline (also translated “sound mind,” don’t let our thoughts get out of control). After all, we are the gate keepers of our own minds, our thoughts. TAKE NAMES AT THE DOOR AND IF THE THOUGHT IS DARK, DON’T LET IT IN!

      “For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.” [2 Timothy 1:7]

      Anything else comes from the enemy, darkness.

      A big hug!

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      • oops! correction: 1st paragraph, line 4:

        wrong = “Suddenly we feel IT IS NOT our job to solve and tackle the entire avalanche.”
        CORRECT = “Suddenly we feel AS IF IT IS our job to solve and tackle the entire avalanche.”

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    • winky says:

      Yohio….I feel the same way on many days …all the ups and downs….but today is Friday approx. 9;30 California time and there is a lot of good news on Breitbart and Drudge about Trump which keeps us going. Bush has stopped paying his staff, Megyn K asked him last night what it would take for him to suspend his campaign because he was so far behind Trump….Trump is going to Florida to get Bush and Rubio supporters and take that state….a fantastic article on Breitbart wriiten by a Latino man giving 20 reasons why Trump is our man……hearings yesterday making HRC look like the most incompetent bimbo or a serial liar…….media skewering and will continue to do so because of her blatant lies yesterday and her blaming of Chris Stevens did her in…….what really did her in what that we found out she knew that it was an attack that night and for weeks lied to the nation and the families…that was just too much to bear and she will pay for that………Drudge is very anti Hillary and so are most of those guys because she threatens internet freedom…..so I was discouraged yesterday too but seeing all this today brings me back up again and keep rooting…..hope this helps a little

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      • yohio says:

        To all I thank you for the kind and encouraging words, I also had a few personal matters taking care of yesterday too. Doing a lot better today, I actually was able to convince one of my friends to switch from dem to republican to vote for trump today. All good pushing forward and upward, to make America great again.

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    • Doodahdaze says:

      That is a feeling I have. Normally an election year is the safest year. They have to answer up to the voters. This time it seems different. They know too many people are on to them. It appears the Republicans are hell bent on doing the things their voters do not want them to do. No matter the cost. Trump is the fly in the ointment.

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  6. Jeff says:

    The key is to repeat the CANTORIZING of the GOP with Trump . Register all you can for the primary . This time BOTH parties (the uni-party ) will see EPIC voter fraud . But the turnout is the key in the PRIMARY .

    THE PRIMARY IS THE ELECTION !! I have converted 7 to RIRO republican in registration only ………for the election of Donald J Trump as the republican nominee for president .

    Even democrats are switching party to vote for Trump . THIS is all that matters . As much as I love facebook punditry unless we show up to support Trump it’s all just hot air …this is where we build our ground game .

    Some I have converted have gone on to become “CONVERTERS ” too ! multi-level marketing for FREEDOM !!
    As just one mutt I have convinced many republican supporting the other candidates to see the Carl Rove plan thanks to SUNDANCE !! At least most republicans are open to FACTS and the links and proof on THE LAST REFUGE are impeccable.

    It’s eerie how Ted Cruz and his wife have similar connections as did Cantor and his wife to the “ELITE “CLASS !! With Cruz’s wife Heidi working for Goldman Sachs . He may be the last stop in their plan …..witness G W BUSH coming out to attack him .

    Is this a major GRUBER …all staged to get people to vote for TED CRUZ ???? or is he real ?

    We know Trump is for real …why take any chance on some BACKDOOR SCAM with Ted Cruz .

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    • Josh says:

      Excellent graphic

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    • Jeff, thank you for the graphic and the headline: THE PRIMARY IS THE ELECTION! Tweeted!

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      • fred says:

        Not voting may be what it takes for the elite to see they need us more than we need them. I’m tired of having to jump all the hurdles the corrupt Godless people who are dishonest and have no integrity lay out. I’m all for fighting and I believe much is in Gods hand but I don’t want to try exact change in a gang house full of crooks and thieves having to watch my back constantly. I see a new start with millions of people like on this site who quickly become a force for good not trudging the mud for every step forward. I see green fields smart people the rule of law. I know I’m dreaming….

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        • Josh says:

          “Not voting may be what it takes for the elite to see they need us more than we need them.” Wrong. Not voting gives them what they want. Not voting is what they want us to do. I understand the point you are trying to make but because it is now a uniparty system, the point is moot.

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  7. Jeff says:

    I started this election cycle supporting Ted Cruz . He knew just what to say and what I wanted to hear . I was wary of Donald Trump so I began to do my own homework on both choices .

    The similarity in connections between Eric Cantor and his wife to Ted and Heidi Cruz can’t be denied . Oh they can be IGNORED as I did at first . WANTING a candidate to be something …and doing real homework to see for myself moved ME to the Trump camp .

    And the discovery of the LAST REFUGE and their researched and linked info has me embracing my own inner VULGARIAN .

    “Cruz the warrior pitted against the establishment motif is another slick subversion directed at the political elite’s most puissant opposition – the real Tea Party and a threatening number of patriot activists gnawing at the edges of the political establishment. ”

    http://www.infowars.com/ted-cruzs-wife-is-a-goldman-sachs-vp/

    Ted Cruz states that Donald Trump won’t be the nominee ….is this why ? The Ted Cruz supporters are convertible too …bring them over to the VULGARIAN SIDE

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    • hebejg says:

      Well welcome to Trump country Jeff.

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    • Josh says:

      Jeff, you and I have been/ are on similar journeys.

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      • Jeff says:

        I did the leg work searching for the truth as best I could find . The TREE HOUSE is well footnoted on Sundance assertions .

        synthesizing the truth from all MR PAVLOV media rings his bell on is a task .

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    • kallibella says:

      And the discovery of the LAST REFUGE and their researched and linked info has me embracing my own inner VULGARIAN.

      My feelings exactly! I am so grateful for this site.:)

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    • Jasper says:

      “Cruz the warrior pitted against the establishment motif is another slick subversion “…

      Then is Sundance part of this cabal?

      The Splitter strategy he finely researched and detailed is the GOPe map for defeating Cruz. Why need a strategy if they’re all for Bush? Not logical. The GOPe did not think Trump would be running or even be a force for that matter when the strategy was designed.

      So who was the Splitter strategy designed to root out?

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  8. Jeff says:

    I helped sway a major Ted Cruz supporter over to Trump . She has a massive following on facebook ! this is how the ground game works !! Obama had OFA and media matters …
    We are the VULGARIAN ARMY ground troops …march on !

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    • sammyhains says:

      great! I really have not trusted Cruz since he voted for TPA and the Iran deal

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      • Jeff says:

        EXACTLY !! the claim he was lied to by leadership was too much even for a mutt like me . ALL 4 Senators running for president voted FOR the Corker Bill handing Obama his Iran Deal …epic fail ……

        Oh I had hoped either Cruz of Paul were my “political Jesus ” but Rand Paul ignored all the top ten rules of the dirty game of politics …AND HE VOTED FOR the Corker Bill too ….both are OUT in my eyes

        (Corker Bill handing democommies a simple 51 vote instead of 61 in a REPUBLICAN LEAD HOUSE AND SENATE !! ) proof of the uni-party

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        • Jeff says:

          Jeff Thomas rules of the dirty game of politics .

          If your explaining or defending …your losing ! If fired upon …deflect that fire …use it as your ” hair of Samson “. Embrace it ..run with it (..ie; VULGARIANS )
          Nothing is off the table . If someone is taking out the enemy …let them hunt
          Winning is everything . Those who put principle over politics fill the surrender voter base . (93 million in 2012 ) . Just where the two party system wants you ..out of the game . You may have to get _______ to get your guy in that administration and work their way to the top later ..play the long game ”
          Politics is a crap sandwich . The more bread you have the less it tastes like shi$
          It’s not over …’ Till it’s over !!!
          Never shoot DOWN at a candidate shooting up first …see rule #1 shoot for the guy above you
          Get help,from smart people who know the rules
          If your on top ..don’t get comfortable ….see rule #1 go in for the kill. Keep winning
          When ” your guy ” goes out ..pick a new guy stay in the game
          Savvy is fundamental . Nice guys finish last

          so far only Donald Trump has adhered to all top ten rules of the dirty game of politics

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          • Jeff, you’re quite a good speaker in writing! Lots of power and FIRE and straight to the point with interesting catchy words. Bravissimo!!

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            • Jeff says:

              Thanks ..I’m a vulgarian too . !!! A real alpha male not afraid of Gods plan .

              Trumps success is as an alpha male in a beta boy complex world created by the left . He validate both ” vulgarian ” males and females who respect the blessings of gender without apologizing !!, no P C ..IMO

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        • Doodahdaze says:

          Good point. That Corker Bill was a stinker.

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        • sandraopines says:

          I worked my arse off for Rand Paul………….. Now embarrassed to even say that. Rand is not the Rand I fell hook line and sinker for….. Very sad… moved to Trump I have never felt Cruz could make POTUS on his own and never found him good at leadership. I “like” them both… in Senate.

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          • don’t feel bad, i was a big Huckabee supporter in 2007-2008 HUCK’S ARMY soldier #77!
            i might also had went for Rand Paul as well, except once I heard Trump speak I was in! what’s important is that we have learned and arrived to Trump. and for me and many of us Sundance’s JebMap was so instrumental in confirming our choice and not getting sidetracked by emotion or personality contests or who is “the best Christian,” etc. Trump literally is the only one that can mathematically win against the establishment.

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    • Turd Burglestein says:

      I’ve been going on a bunch of political based FB pages and telling all the liberals that they should stick it to the republicans by showing up and voting for Trump during the primaries so the gop gets stuck with the candidate they despise the most. A lot of them seemed to “like” my idea.

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  9. starfcker says:

    OK, so the E’s get their dream speaker. Not that big of a deal, as long as the house doesn’t give up the right to toss him out. A probationary year is a good thing. He has to be re-elected next year, and the national mood is changing quickly. A president trump won’t ignore big business, he just won’t let it run roughshod over everyone else. And it looks like it may have to stand on it’s own two feet, instead of co-opting the treasury. Trump will do fine handling ryan. Stooges are never as smart as they think they are.
    .

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    • Sentient says:

      Trump is a lot smarter than Ryan.

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      • Dixie says:

        Not a chance we want to take. Back to Ryan….here is some information from NumbersUSA who is trying to encourage all to contact their representatives to tell them no to Paul Ryan. This was just received this morning:

        Reports from the Hill are that many Representatives are stunned by the firestorm of protest over Ryan from their constituents. They had no idea their voters pay this much attention to the inner workings of Congress and are so informed. Quite a number of anti-amnesty Representatives who have been supporting Ryan because they like his leadership abilities and positions on other issues are indicating that they are having to re-think their Speaker vote next week because of the grassroots anger.

        What this country desperately needs is a reduction in immigration numbers. An end to chain migration. An end to the visa lottery. An end to wide-open, insecure refugee re-settlement. An end to importing workers for jobs that Americans can fill.

        What is the chance that a Speaker Ryan will allow those kinds of bills to movelet alone that he would provide leadership to move themwhen his whole career has been to increase the worker surplus of this country?

        That prospect alone should be reason for doing everything we can to continue to try to keep Paul Ryan out of the Speakership.

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  10. sammyhains says:

    One key goal of the Chamber of Commerce that was left out is the Iran Deal.
    Chamber of Commerce sees Iran as the emerging hegemon in the middle east, and desperately wants to do business with this emerging power.

    This is why every Republican except for one voted for the Iran Deal in the form of the Corker bill. They knew that it would let 0bama pass it while giving themselves cover to complain that there is nothing they can do to stop him.

    Ted Cruz was among the Senators who voted for the Iran Deal. So was Marco Rubio and Rand Paul. They all are on the Chamber of Commerce’s payroll, so don’t fall for any of this nonsense that Ted Cruz is a true Conservative fighting the Establishment! He’s a phony Conservative who talks a good game but never seems to be able to pull out any victories for Conservatism.

    A vote for Ted Cruz is still a vote for Tom Donohue…

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    • Jeff says:

      Like …..BAZINGA !!!, he is their Trojan horse to,GRUBER the tea people

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    • Betty says:

      All those traitors who stood proxy for the CoC in our House and Senate think that the CoC is all-powerful and if push comes to shove will supply them with endless amounts of money to defeat challengers at home. Right Now, if they succeed it means that those in office now will be in office until they decide to move on as long as they stay true to the CoC. When they go their successor will be selected by the CoC, and will probably be a child or wife. Is this how brave, strong, independent hunter/gathers lost their freedom to a hereditary ruling class?

      Can we dare to hope that Carl Icahn’s Super Pac will balance the CoC?

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      • If Carl Ichan is in this fight, I would say YES! In 2012-2014 I used to be a DAY TRADER and worked on an APPL (Apple stock) blog and I personally witnessed Ichan take that stock from a waning loser to a huge winner in ONE DAY. He never let up and continued to do so and now look at APPL stock: YUGE! Of course Apple stock traders we lovingly refer to him as UNCLE CARL. When the stock would wane, there’s be “a twitter” from Ichan and the stock would rally. He would also set up negotiation meetings with Apple CEO Tim Cook.

        His style is very much like Trump’s, except he is more STEALTH and probably the best negotiator around. Very persistent too! In those days we would be begging for the Ichan tweets! Every single time he did them (sort of like how Trump does them) the APPL stock would RALLY BIG!

        HERE’S THE LOGO our Apple stock blog owner created we used for CARL ICHAN, interestingly he’s wearing a VULGARIAN HELMET!! Coincidence???????

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    • Jasper says:

      “…don’t fall for any of this nonsense that Ted Cruz is a true Conservative fighting the Establishment! “…

      The Splitter strategy Sundance finely researched and detailed is the GOPe map for defeating Cruz. Why need a strategy if they’re all for Bush? Not logical. The GOPe did not think Trump would be running or even be a force for that matter when the strategy was designed.

      So who was the Splitter strategy designed to root out?

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  11. TwoLaine says:

    CALL AND OPPOSE REP PAUL RYAN FOR SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE
    October 23, 2015
    by wethepeoplerising

    https://wethepeoplerising.wordpress.com/2015/10/23/call-and-oppose-rep-paul-ryan-for-speaker-of-the-house/

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  12. Bruce Fauth says:

    Was glad to vote FOR Brat and taking down Cantor was a real joy.

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  13. Really interesting (and scary) stuff.

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  14. Centinel2012 says:

    Reblogged this on Centinel2012 and commented:

    The GOPe will not give up their power and money without a deadly fight. Worse I think that when Trump takes office in January 2017 that Ryan and McConnell will block anything that Trump tries to fix.

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    • Ivehadit says:

      Exactly! Trump will know how to “deal” with them, imho.

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    • i just don’t think folks truly understand just who Trump is and what he does. he does not lay down and he can negotiate and compromise and in the end get exactly what he wants. even when losing battles he wins the war. He’s pure mental energy with fire and oh so FLUID.
      trying to trap Trump or grab him is sort of like trying to grab a stream of water, goes right through your hands!

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  15. It’s official CARSON is the New King In Iowa!

    Second Poll confirms his front runner status!

    Des Moines Register/BLoomberg Poll: CARSON 28%, TRUMP 19%

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2015/10/23/gop-iowa-poll-ben-carson-donald-trump/74446364/?

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    • ZurichMike says:

      Relax.
      Evangelicals and ethanol subsidies are behind this quirky state. Reagan didn’t win Iowa, either.

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      • Ivehadit says:

        Agreed.

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      • Jack Long says:

        This is another poll of definite/probable caucus goers. Caucus goers are probably about 20% (max) of voters and includes 17 yo’s.

        Trump’s supporters, if they storm the caucuses, will be much higher than these polls indicate.

        I lived in a caucus state once, it was too much of a PITA for me. I’d rather just go somewhere and vote on a ballot. I think it’s more of a political junkie thing.

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        • TheTorch says:

          PLEASE NOTE

          This poll is similar to the other it was taken 16-19.

          We need to see a poll after 21st to see if there is any movement to Trump.
          Remember he had a huge rally there 21st and also positive local media coverage.

          All this poll does is confirm a trend shown in the Quinnipiac poll, but it does not tell us what the situation is today…

          Just flagging that up because I think it is important.

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          • flova says:

            This poll is a joke. Propaganda–they’ve got nothing to stop Trump but fake polls. But believe me, they are effective in demoralizing voters.

            I have another take on the GOPe/ C of Commerce donor class. The enemy is not outside the gates for the conservatives, he’s inside the gate. Stop focusing on GOPe(we know they are no different than the globalist Dems) and the C of C. Look within our own field to see the sneaker sleeper under the guiding hand of Axelrod. He’s the one who will destroy our chance of getting Trump in. Pray for Trump, and his supporters to stand strong. Will be going to Norfolk rally on Halloween.

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            • TheTorch says:

              Hmm… posted on another blog site

              If you read the internal questions it is basically is a push-poll for Carson. Club for Growth paid for a poll a few weeks ago.

              IA is important, in that if an obviously non-Evangelical like Trump won it would be pretty huge momentum.

              In any event it will be pretty funny to watch the GOPe pretend to like Carson.

              If they could get Rubio or even Fiorina to poll higher they would have no use for Carson; other than as a place for Evangelicals to waste their vote.

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              • sammyhains says:

                You mean the “Club For Graft”?

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              • sammyhains says:

                Keep in mind that Carson is a 7th Day Adventist, and most Evangelical see then as a cult. Once they start taking a harder look at Carson beyond the introductory “he’s a nice guy” and “he’s OUR answer to 0bama” his support will start to drop off.

                Rupert Murdoch is pushing Carson hard, hoping to use him to take out Trump. Fox News won’t vet Carson (again, he’s “our” 0bama) but others will.

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                • yes, you’re right and those type of evangelicals are voting for Trump. the other evangelicals who like their candidate’s strong talk to be delivered in a soft romantic afraid-to-rock-the-boat go to Carson. i’ve been on some of their blogs and they are flipping out about him being divorced and being brash. somehow they have forgotten they are sinners and don’t quite understand that God doesn’t call pastors to be presidents. and sometimes he calls even unbelievers as kings (King Cyrus) and sometimes very brash folks (John the Baptist) who tell it like it is, and even an adulterer and murderer (King David). we just must pray God will open their eyes.

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          • Jasper says:

            Per Gravis (polling for OAN): For some reason Trump has been losing significant Iowan support since August. If my memory is correct Iowans discount national media and polling and rely more on on-the-ground communications. Their month end October poll may be more telling.

            Month end September poll:
            http://www.realclearpolitics.com/docs/2016/Gravis_IA_Sept_2015.pdf

            Month end August poll:
            http://gravismarketing.com/polling-and-market-research/current-iowa-polling-2/

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      • winky says:

        Was this Iowa poll just a ploy to break Trump momentum…..Fox did this once before but it only lasted a couple of days when they had Carson come within a point of Trump

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      • Doodahdaze says:

        Trump will win Iowya in a landslide.

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    • amjean says:

      Des Moines Register has been anti Trump from the beginning.

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    • RINOKiller says:

      The DMR hates Trump so this poll is simply biased with an agenda

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    • It’s official CARSON is HUCKABEE 2008! Huck won Iowa and also was #1 in SC and other key states.

      But a poll is just a poll, actual caucus turnout is what matters. However, higher polls not favorable to Trump make it easier for establishment to cheat. Evangelicals can be so stuck in stupid looking for pastors in their presidents. If they only knew their vote against Trump is a vote for Jeb in the end!

      Back to the prayer closet! O dear God please open their eyes!

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    • Bert Darrell says:

      Do you want to know more about Dr. Carson? Read: http://www.newswithviews.com/Nelson/kelleigh251.htm

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  16. Angry Dumbo says:

    Ryan is no golden boy. This may just backfire on the GOPe.

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  17. Ron Hyatt says:

    Great. Bonerz cabana boy.

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  18. Clc says:

    I think that even behind the C of C is Zionism. they control both parties. it matters not who gets elected, they are only puppets who’s strings are pulled by the Zionist. that is why we have endless war even from peace activist obama. the Zionist control Hollywood, mainstream media, wall street, the federal reserve, and D.C.. when a country is 20 trillion in debt they are slaves to the bankers. coming soon at a time of their choosing is a collapse of the dollar. then you will have a world currency and no borders. I have nothing against jews or Israel but this Zionist movement through history is satanic. only thing holding it back is Christianity.

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    • Josh says:

      “I have nothing against jews or Israel …” Yeah, right. You’re on the wrong site.

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    • Actually that is incorrect. Words and terms are very important. Please be careful of the Zionist conspiracy theories on the internet! Many of them use that term ignorantly to describe things that have nothing to do with Israel and just are NOT ISRAEL, but instead are rich and powerful men, they also call them the illuminati, etc. Again, not having anything to do with Israel. You include Netanyahu in that group and that is simply untrue, he very much likes Trump. And right now the very powerful people you speak of (which BTW includes Obama) are in complete opposition and hate Netanyahu.

      So the piece of the puzzle you’re trying to squeeze in, just simply doesn’t fit.

      GUARD YOUR MIND!

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  19. stringy theory says:

    I think this election will mark the end of the GOP. Too many of us are finally onto their game and will no longer vote for whatever they claim is the least worst choice. As to Iowa, a poll that is largely meaningless, as is the Iowa vote (look at all those who won there and went on to lose to the dumbocraps), it was loaded with so-called evangelicals and women, both of whom seem to be enamored of Carson. I think both these constituencies are clueless as to what would happen if Carson were the nominee (which he absolutely will not be). Hillary would eviscerate Dr. Ben and then when she’s in office, you can bet she would see christian churches as one of her attack points. And by supporting Carson, they are begging for her to destroy what little religious liberty we have left. Hopefully, they will come to see that Trump is the only, the only one who has the resources and backbone to destroy her.

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  20. three by one says:

    The response is simple:

    EVERY Representative needs to know that a vote for Ryan will result in voteS against them.

    Primary and general.

    Call them and let them know.

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  21. boojum says:

    The last Trump speech I heard, which I believe was in Iowa, he warned about the attacks that were being made and would be made against him, and then emphasized that he was a Christian. I thought at the time that he must have gotten wind of some current or future move to attack him on religious grounds. Perhaps that is what is happening now in Iowa.

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    • boojum says:

      Ooops. Wrong thread. Meant to put this in thread concerning Iowa poll. My bad.

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      • TheTorch says:

        You are right though he did say a number of things in that speech which were interesting at the time, so there is something to that. We really need to see a poll for IOWA after the 21st. If it still shows something similar then it is trending to Carson, and at this early stage that can be dealt with, but if it shows Trump reversing the trend or a much closer result, then that is indicative of a number of things, firstly that at the moment at this early stage it is still very fluid and better coverage for one candidate will effect the poll numbers, that is good news, and secondly remember trump has no ads in IOWA at the moment, but there are a lot of ADs by Carson and SuperPACs supporting him or other candidates.

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    • kallibella says:

      Agree. I heard him say he was a “good Christian,” and added that he would be the best ‘jobs president’ and that God would be proud of him.
      He knows that Club for Growth is gunning for him. Trump has already commented that Club for Growth hit him for funds/donations and Trump declined, maybe because Trump must made it clear they are not in agreement on issues. That’s my guess. I haven’t heard Trump say anything about reasons for declining.

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      • the evangelicals that go for Carson do not like it when Trump says “God would be proud of me.” If Trump is to win those ones over he needs to restate those things in a different way. like “i have prayed for God’s wisdom,” and “i have heeded the call” or things like “God has blessed me with riches,” rather than “I am rich” and the “i” factor. it seems like a small thing but very big to those folks. if Trump gave God the glory or even referred to his possessions, talents, and accomplishments as “gifts” or “blessings” from God, it would turn them around quickly. but again, the problem still lies in the fact that they are looking for a pastor for a president.

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        • kallibella says:

          they are looking for a pastor for a president.

          That is the core of the issue. Many evangelicals tend to confuse the two roles. Although I think that character most definitely counts, when evangelicals vote and participate in politics, it should be with full understanding that we are not electing a Pastor-In-Chief. We are a secular form of government. A Constitutional Representative Republic. It matters who is president, but the focus should be on the candidate’s set of skills needed to lead and produce results and a demonstrable record of upholding the Constitution/abiding by the rule of law.

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          • Eskie Mom says:

            & to Monique, too. Not sure if I’ve posted this here, but have y’all seen this?

            http://press.princeton.edu/chapters/i7500.html

            There’s a tremendous push underway (IIRC there was in 2012, too & since) to revise our history to America being “founded as a Christian nation”. Apparently, this has been going on since before the Constitution was even written.

            The founding fathers believed exactly as you do, kallibella.

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  22. Freelancer1787 says:

    Can someone explain to me why the CoC/Donohue/GOPe are fighting to protect Obamacare and Common Core? I can see the rationale for TPP and Amnesty, but not the other two. What am I missing?

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    • TheTorch says:

      Obamacare is great for the insurance companies, so naturally COC will love it! But it goes much further than that.

      Common Core – is effectively the federal government controlling the entire education agenda. what better way to indoctrinate children into thinking illegal immigration is perfectly acceptable and required for the future of the country. BTW this is already happening in some schools.

      Remember – once the establishment control your health and your education it is game over, that means they control you and every facet of your life. The power they then wield is exponentially greater.

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  23. trapper says:

    It is essential that we begin using terms that accurately describe what is happening. Sundance and others continue to refer to “conservatives” and describe the GOPe and the CoC as working “against the best interests of conservative principles.” Liberal vs conservative, Republican vs Democrat, black vs white, are obsolete descriptors that no longer accurately delineate the fault line. America and the freedoms she guarantees for her citizens are obstacles in the path of the globalists, and what we are witnessing is a war against American sovereignty and citizenship conducted by globalist corporate and political interests. The correct description of the current conflict is globalist vs American nationalist. It is essential that we recognize this and begin describing it accurately.

    It would be useful to stop referring to “conservative” altogether, because the term has become little more than one of the masks the globalists use to hide the true allegiance of their chess pieces. It no longer accurately describes any party to the conflict, and its continued use prevents us from finding nationalist allies in those whom we continue to describe as democrats and liberals and think of as rivals. So, is Donald Trump a republican or a conservative or a democrat or a liberal? Who cares? He is a nationalist, and that is all that matters.

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    • Ziiggii says:

      couple of things Trapper:

      1) SD has already used the “new” term you say should be used. It was posted in at the top of an article only 2 days ago in big bright red font.
      https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/10/21/game-on-america-donald-trump-crushing-field-32-and-rising/

      2) JMHO, there is a danger in using (albeit absolutely correct) the term Nationalist. Many still consider the term closely related to Socialism/Nazism (it’s the first thing I equate with the term) and want distance from the term. Short of redefining (read correctly defining) the term Nationalist it seems like a futile attempt.

      I believe what most clearly describes the battle is Globalists vs American’s/American Patriots. The best way to fight these “American” Globalists is to call them what they really are; not American’s! I don’t care if they have an R, D, or I beside their names or what Ideology they clam to hold. What they say and do is completely unAmerican. If our Founding Fathers were still around I’d dare say they would call them Loyalists / Tory / Royalists / the King’s Men, but I’ll use the most apt description; “persons inimical to the liberties of America”!

      The movement set in motion over the last half decade or more seems to me to be a revival; THE revival of the original Patriotic spirit in revolt against a tyrannical government elite class that, just like the Loyalists of old, are inimical to the liberties of America.

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    • TwoLaine says:

      I call him an American. That is all that matters. The rest we can call TRAITORS!

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  24. Nessie509 says:

    Ryan means GOPe will implement agenda of donor class during 2016 lame duck. Not any way to stop them.

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  25. Since the origianl post (by SD) touches on the comments of Rush Limbaugh, and his failure to identify the CoC as the “donor class” (as Limbaugh terms it) I feel compelled to ask:

    Is Limbaugh really “missing it”, or is he intentionally avoiding mention of the CoC? That is, does Limbaugh simply “not get it” or does he actually “get it”, but by design seek to obfuscate on behalf of the CoC?

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    • JRD says:

      I believe that Rush is intentionally avoiding it.

      Both Rush and Mark Levin could have taken corrupt US Chamber or Corporatist candidate Marco Rubio out during the Gang of 8. Instead they continued to give him a microphone and allow him to do more damage. They constantly told us Rubio was a conservative. They should have cut the legs out from under him a long time ago.

      It’s way past time for Rush and Levin to go all the way.

      I e-mailed Rush sundance’s post.

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    • kallibella says:

      Provocative, but I don’t think so.

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    • avogadra says:

      I’d say it’s more likely that he is avoiding a lawsuit that would cripple his ability to do his program.

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      • avogadra says:

        Not that the CoC would win the lawsuit. I’m saying that fighting the lawsuit for several years would hamper Rush’s ability to do his show properly.

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  26. Stinky-Inky says:

    O/T and FWIW: MSNBC is on the TV at the office at which I am freelancing. They are reporting that Jeb! is making staff and salary cuts and canceling fundraisers. Here is a link:
    http://race42016.com/2015/10/23/struggling-bush-campaign-orders-40-across-the-board-pay-cuts-fires-staff-consultants-cancels-fundraisers/

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  27. winky says:

    Someone above mentioned David Axelrod…….that is worth looking into because he is in the background but was instrumental in O’s election……good observation, we need to keep an eye on him cause he is evil

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  28. TheTorch says:

    Drudge Report and the vultures are circling:

    Jeb Bush Orders Across-the-Board Pay Cuts for Struggling Campaign
    http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-10-23/jeb-bush-orders-across-the-board-pay-cuts-for-struggling-campaign

    Jeb Bush Struggles to Galvanize His Family’s Donor Base as Campaign Falters
    http://www.wsj.com/articles/jeb-bush-struggles-to-galvanize-his-familys-donor-base-as-campaign-falters-1445557025

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    • stringy theory says:

      I think the CoC and the Wall Street cabal it represents have Hillary in place–they no longer need Yebby Bushito. He’s done. Stick a fork in him. Now it’s on to see whether the rest of the GOPe clowns recognize they’re also done.

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      • winky says:

        Trump is polling 70% to her 30% against her…after yesterday she looks like a serial liar or an incompetent crap weasel….media skewering her and it is not over she has FBI to contend with….worst lie about yesterday that I think did her in and showed who she is the fact she kbnew on the night it happened that it was an attack and she kied to the nation and worst of all top the families……CRUEL…..that is hard to overcome …..and O knew too…these people are scum and I think that did her in .

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    • notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital says:

      Jeb, go away.
      Don’t go away MAD, just GO AWAY!
      LOL

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      • TheTorch says:

        I think what will happen here is actually funny.

        Jeb will close down a lot of his campaign apparatus.
        But will keep the Campaign HQ’s in place.
        Will therefore reduce overheads considerably.
        He has sufficient money to go through to the end of the process, especially with the big SuperPACs supporting him.

        He will do far less fund raisers and rallies etc, perhaps even no rallies, but just enough media to keep a few articles in the news.

        He will hang around, so if the water boy drowns in his own bottle, he will ride to the rescue to be the anti-trump.

        You can write the script for this, and it does not end well for Jebby, although I do like the idea of the water boy drowning.😀

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    • joshua says:

      Moe, Larry, and Shemp
      “What me Worry?” family motto

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  29. kallibella says:

    Insiders, both Republicans and Democrats, are now beginning to realize that Trump is well positioned to win nomination. And as we all know, the GOPe is gonna go all out to oppose him.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/insiders-trump-nomination-looking-more-likely-215087#ixzz3pNgfNdEW

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  30. Ursula says:

    Call your state representative and tell them you don’t want Paul Ryan. Numbers USA is behind the —stop the immigration movement and they just posted that our calls are having an effect.
    It’s a good take action site. I already called 2 reps in my state.

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    • phil fan says:

      Trump has second thoughts about Ryan = repeating his criticisms PR is not tough enough. Donald has picked up the massive discontent on the GOPe ‘appointment/anointment’ of Ryan:

      “Trump said Ryan was soft on immigration, the key issue of Trump’s campaign.
      “Now he’s very, very weak on illegal immigration, I don’t like that, you know he’s an amnesty person, and you know I’m not thrilled with that,” said Trump. “Because you get amnesty and you do something wrong, you get amnesty, that’s not what we are all about.”

      http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3352097/posts

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    • Gray Delany says:

      Burn up the phones then get organizing because we have to defeat these RINOs. If you have to call them to tell them to vote against Ryan then he or she does not deserve to be in office. Please read how the grassroots took out Cantor and then do the same to your congressman. http://howtobagarino.com/

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  31. Freelancer1787 says:

    Very interesting article on Roll Call today. Donohue vows to “double down” on CoC spending for the 2016 election to get rid of Tea Party members of Congress. Also praised the choice of Ryan for Speaker, no surprise. I hope everyone here is paying close attention to the Senate and House primaries as well. The presidential election gets all the attention but it doesn’t solve everything.

    http://atr.rollcall.com/chambers-donohue-doubling-2016/?dcz=

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  32. truthandjustice says:

    What I’m wondering is why is Ryan saying he will wait until 2017 to push the immigration fiasco?
    Just more lying as usual? Wouldn’t it be harder then if Trump is President/have more Conservatives (hopefully) in Congress? Also Ryan is up for re-election and may lose, no?

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  33. 22227z says:

    Proud to say I was part of ousting Cantor. I absolutely loathe that man. He was a horrible, horrible Congressman.

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  34. joshua says:

    This just out on Breitbart:

    23 Oct 2015 Washington, DC.

    An emergency Bush family meeting is scheduled for this weekend in Houston, Texas, as former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush’s 2016 presidential campaign falls apart.

    Time for wise counsel:
    Barbara…”I told you not to run”
    George H.W….”Read my lips, no more Spanish”
    George W….”Heck, fool me once….uh….you need to look into Putin’s eyes and read his soul..”
    Rove….”Dammit, you are just a boring idjut…wake up and hold up your shoulders and eat your peas”

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  35. winky says:

    And he is rearing his head around like he wants back in…..do not blame you for loathing him ….he gave your state the finger……you can imagine how I feel living in California….we need help but we cannot get out of the grips of these nut jobs running this state

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  36. Doodahdaze says:

    Prince Jebito in trouble. Baby Bush hopes for help from Big Bro and Papa Booosh. Good Grief utter flopola. Now what will the E do?
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/23/emergency-royal-family-meeting-jeb-to-meet-with-former-presidents-bush-41-bush-43-in-houston-as-campaign-struggles/

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  37. FireAm 85 says:

    Thank you Sundance for your tireless and stellar research.
    I really hope that with a Trump Presidency we can defeat these Globalists, one district at a time,and send them to the dust-bin of history.

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  38. The establishment is determined to manage us, the peasants beyond the moat.

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    • Doodahdaze says:

      They will govern you and represent the CoC.

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    • truthandjustice says:

      Yes – they’ve been trying to figure out and take back their “feudalist” rule over the peasants they used to have before the Revolutionary War. So these Elites have been working on shredding the Constitution, etc. from the very beginning. It’s a miracle we lasted this long but hopefully, now that so many are awake about this we’ll be able to “make America great again” with God’s help, as in the beginning………..

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  39. IMO, the GOP establishment has given up on Jeb and has switched to Rubio.

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  40. Freelancer1787 says:

    The CoC plans to spend $100 million to get Tea Party members out of Congress in 2016. We need to fight back! Let’s start with Paul Ryan. What good does it do him to become Speaker if he loses his seat? He’s running unopposed right now in Wisconsin. There has to be at least one good man or woman who could challenge him in the primary.

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  41. TwoLaine says:

    Starring OPEN BORDERS LOVER Paul Ryan, candidate for SOTH.

    PBS: Immigration Battle
    20 Oct 2014
    In “Immigration Battle,” a special two-hour feature film presentation from FRONTLINE and INDEPENDENT LENS, acclaimed filmmakers Shari Robertson and Michael Camerini take viewers behind closed doors in Washington’s corridors of power to explore the political realities surrounding one of the country’s most pressing and divisive issues.

    http://video.pbs.org/video/2365587196/

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  42. TwoLaine says:

    C-SPAN
    OCTOBER 15, 2015
    Drivers Licenses for Illegal Immigrants

    State officials and academics talked about the decision by some states to allow undocumented immigrants to obtain and renew driver’s licenses. At the time of the program, 10 states and the District of Columbia had passed laws allowing illegal immigrants to obtain licenses.

    http://www.c-span.org/video/?328748-1/discussion-drivers-licenses-undocumented-immigrants

    Also, currently playing on C-Span3.

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  43. My suggestion is that Trump come out forcefully AGAINST Paul Ryan as he is simply another crony capitalist from the same mold as Eric Cantor seeking to line the pockets of big business at the expense of, “we the people”.

    “How to Bag a RINO” details the takedown of future Speaker, Eric Cantor and how the grassroots across America can rise up and Cantorize other would be feudal rulers.
    Howtobagarino.com is the website to learn about the Cantor lies and a link to the Amazon.com page to purchase the book.

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