Trade and Tariffs: Prime Minister Justin Trudeau Full NBC Interview…

The essential argument made by Prime Minister Justin Trudeau during this interview was already addressed in the preview segment prior to broadcast – SEE HERE –  However, here is the full interview as broadcast on NBC Meet The Press with Chuck Todd.

The interview is a typical narrative engineering attempt by Chuck Toad; however, beyond the narrative, for those who pay close attention to the economic issues, there are some key elements which deserve attention:

  • @04:05 Trudeau admits the problem with corporate transshipment of Chinese Steel into the U.S. market – through Canada via the NAFTA loophole.  While Justin from Canada frames the issue from their own national efforts to stop the practice, you’ll note how he avoids taking ownership…. it’s called ‘willful blindness‘.
  • More importantly at @08:17 the topic of NAFTA surfaces. Pay close attention.  Not only does Trudeau speak in past tense (reinforcing the reality that all parties have accepted that NAFTA is essentially dead), but moments later @09:00 he admits the Canadian trade and manufacturing economy is set up as a brokerage (ie. multinational corporate investment) dependent, exclusively dependent, on access to the U.S. market.

WATCH:

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Once you see the strings on the marionettes, you can never go back to a time when you didn’t notice them.

This ridiculously absurd politicization of the reasoning for U.S. steel and aluminum tariffs, and the political narrative now being pushed by Trudeau is further evidence that NAFTA is now a “dead-man-walking” trade deal. Stick a fork in it, and conduct your financial affairs accordingly, because NAFTA is dead.

If there was any possibility of a renewed deal, and/or if Justin from Canada wasn’t told of the pending doom by his advisers therein, he would never get himself so far out in direct opposition to U.S. President Donald Trump.

The only thing missing is the official U.S. announcement withdrawing from NAFTA… But don’t worry, that announcement is coming. Both Canada and Mexico are fully aware #NAFTA is dead. Their political positioning is now entirely framed around blame casting.

Unfortunately for the politically-minded Justin Trudeau and Foreign Minister Chrystia  Freeland what they both don’t understand is that President Trump doesn’t care about their delicate sensibilities and blame-casting maneuvers. POTUS Trump was elected specifically because he doesn’t apply a political prism in front of economic or national security decisions.

NAFTA is dead, all three countries know it, and the aspect that both Canada and Mexico have only recently become aware of is Trump is in no rush to announce it. President Trump is in no rush to announce it because the effects of withdrawal are already well underway. Investors are not going to invest in Canada and Mexico while the looming uncertainty of a U.S. NAFTA exit looms in the air.

As previously shared, prior to joining the administration NEC Chairman Larry Kudlow knew businessman Donald Trump tangentially. However, now that Kudlow’s got a front row seat to Trump’s trade and economic policy, he too has realized President Trump means what he says.

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What PM Trudeau doesn’t mention [nor FM Chrystia Freeland ] is that most exported Canadian Steel is actually supply chain U.S. steel as a result of U.S. auto-sector steel being shipped just across the border into Canada to be used in U.S. owned manufacturing plants in Canada and returned to the U.S. in finished goods (vehicles).  Take that away and the entire “Canada exporting steel to the U.S.” narrative is lost.

Canada doesn’t make much steel and aluminum, because the Trudeau-minded do-gooder environmentalists in Canada have killed off their heavy manufacturing industrial base. Which is exactly what President Trump is attempting to ensure doesn’t happen in the United States.

RAW DATA:

 

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Worlds Top Ten Steel Producers HERE

CNN analysis on Global Steel Production and Use HERE

World Steel Industry Statistics and Resources HERE

2018 pdf link on World Steel Production HERE

Do you remember the list of items the dynamic duo Justin Trudeau and Chrystia Freeland selected as targets for their counter-tariff position? Check it out here. What do: “felt pens”, “rubber boats”, “orange juice” and “tomato ketchup” have to do with the U.S. steel and aluminum tariffs?

See The Answer HERE.

Politics.

….And when Justin and Chrystia from Canada get all done with their U.S. media tour, guess what?

NAFTA is still dead.

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156 Responses to Trade and Tariffs: Prime Minister Justin Trudeau Full NBC Interview…

  1. FL_GUY says:

    Gee, Canada may have to start acting like a real country as opposed to the middle man for China.

    Liked by 25 people

    • Rose says:

      China owns large pockets of Canada, they bring in their children buy luxury properties and the kids are raised by Nannies. When they need free healthcare mom and dad show up. China owns some of our finest realestate.

      Liked by 11 people

      • WSB says:

        And this we need to stop.

        Liked by 2 people

      • Paco Loco says:

        Vancouver real estate prices have skyrocketed as Chinese investors are buying like crazy. BC has become a new Chinese province!

        Liked by 3 people

        • Joshua2415 says:

          I remember the good ol’ days when BC was a Japanese province.

          Liked by 2 people

        • Perot Conservative says:

          Love Vancouver, lovely.

          I read the age of consent in Canada used to be 14 until they caught an American sicko with a 14 year old boy in a motel. The boy said, “Oh, I met him on the Internet, I agreed to this, this is all legal.”

          Canadian police were so pissed they got ahold of the police in America in the pervs hometown, they got a search warrant, and found kiddie porn on the American’s PC. Canada upped their age of consent to 16.

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        • Kathy MacDonald says:

          I grew up in Vancouver in the 50’s and we always had a large Chinese population from descendants of those who built the railway through the Rockies. But the huge increases of Hong Kong immigrants from the 80’s & 90’s tore apart Vancouver families because children and grandchildren of Vancouver residents were forced to move outside of Vancouver into more affordable areas causing families to have to travel lond distances to get together. And it has only got worse.

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          • Perot Conservative says:

            Essentially imported competition?

            The Bay Area has done the same thing. Hi tech uses the H1B Visa to lure in foreign workers at lower wages as defacto indentured servants. They eventually get green cards. Whole cities like Fremont have large Indian populations, and these often two high income families then bring over grandparents and leapfrog into surrounding communities. I have nothing against Indian or Chinese workers. But we push out American worker’s in a defacto age discrimination strategy.

            A friend returned to California and went to a suburban shopping center and said, “There wasn’t a single white or black face there. Not one!”

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        • dginga says:

          On a recent vacation in Vancouver we stayed at a B&B where we met several Canadians who were quite vocal about how the Chinese are ruining Vancouver. Never having been there before we had no basis for comparison, but there sure were a lot of Asians in Vancouver, most of whom were not speaking English. Our Canadian contacts said the influx of Chinese people with lots of money were driving real estate prices through the roof. From what I saw, the prices were comparable to most large American cities like New York, L.A., San Francisco, etc.

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      • Bendix says:

        Largest Chinatown on the continent is in Toronto, I believe.

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    • Bill Dunn says:

      Squeal Justin Squeal , we can’t
      hearrr youuu.

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    • Ellie says:

      Canada will never be a real country until they get a PM who does not beclown himself by dressing like a feminist emasculated Bollywood-wannabe b00b.

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  2. Sporty says:

    Life is supposed to hurt when you’re stupid.

    Liked by 7 people

  3. FofBW says:

    Concerning when you consider China produces about 50% of the world steel and we produce 5%!!

    If that does not get your National Security antenna up nothing will.

    Wonder what % we were in the 70’s?

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    • WSB says:

      FofBW, I really tried to find a historical graph of the US Steel industry, and even using DuckDuckGo, only found one article that stated US Production of 11,951 thousand tonnes in May 1973.

      The issue is to find the trajectory from earlier years but nothing on the search engines want to give you info before 1969. Maybe this has something to do with Nixon and the opening of China?

      It is very odd not to find a clear graph of the US rise and then drop off steel production. Maybe they do not want us to know.

      https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/steel-production

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      • wheatietoo says:

        My husband mentioned to me that “Cheap Chinese Steel is not as strong as US Steel.”

        I asked him…”Why is that?”
        Him: “It has higher carbon content, or something.”
        Me: “But aren’t there quality controls on that? …Isn’t there a grading system?”
        Him: “Yeah, but they cheat on that.”

        So I have tried to find out more on this.
        I’ve turned up very little in the US media about the ‘quality’ of cheap Chinese steel…but I found some articles from the UK, NZ and Australia.

        http://www.constructionmanagermagazine.com/news/chinese-stee7l-safe-indu2stry-meets-bis-exam5ine/

        https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/85627705/Court-action-on-shonky-steel-mesh-creates-pressure-for-government-inquiry

        http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-17/safety-warning-over-fabricated-chinese-steel/6949506

        This one is from the Philippines:

        https://www.philstar.com/business/2014/06/19/1336303/chinese-steel-roofs-fail-iso-standards-study

        It is interesting that there is very little mention of the sub-standard quality of Chinese steel, in the US media.

        Didn’t Pres Trump remark on the “low quality” of Chinese rebar once?
        I think he did.

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        • MaineCoon says:

          Remember the Chinese Drywall issue? Poor product. The bad drywall would end up smelling like rotten eggs in ones home. Houses had to me gutted, particularly in Florida.

          Chinese cheat. They don’t have our standards and are non-compliant with ours for import. The drywall issue is the best example.

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          • wheatietoo says:

            Oh, I definitely remember the cheap Chinese Drywall problems.

            It wasn’t just the ‘smell’…it was making people deathly ill, too!
            It was causing respiratory problems: asthma, bronchitis and pneumonia.
            Entire neighborhoods had to be gutted and rebuilt.

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          • wheatietoo says:

            And it wasn’t just in Florida…it was a nationwide problem.

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            • MaineCoon says:

              “IMPORTED CHINESE DRYWALL PLAGUE AFFECTS 13 STATES”

              FTA: “The drywall was installed primarily during the housing boom that was caused partly by rising real estate values and partly by hurricane damage in the South. The building boom led to a shortage of domestically-produced drywall, leading builders to import drywall from China. Estimates of the number of homes affected range from 30,000 (the number of complete homes that may have been built using the amount of imported drywall) to 100,000 (the number of homes that might also have received the drywall if small portions were used in many renovation projects). The majority of affected homes is in Florida, but reports of this defective drywall grow as warmer weather increases the emissions of sulfur compounds in homes across the country. Reports of sulfurous emissions from drywall have been received in Alabama, Arizona, California, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, Ohio, Tennessee, Virginia, Washington, Wisconsin, Wyoming, and Washington, D.C.”

              The firm I worked for handled some of the cases. Port St. Lucie was heavy hit. It was after the 2004 hurricanes devastated the FL east coast, particularly St. Lucie Co. My mom’s condo was gutted. Bush declared it a disaster area – 2x/mo. Gutted condos/homes. USA corps ran out of drywall so they imported from China. On-going endless litigation with the Chinese drywall company, which, of course, was located in China. One. Big. Mess. Fortunately, my mom’s condo didn’t have Chinese drywall.

              The Cochram law firm had an office in Stuart (St. Lucie Co.), and made a lot of $$$.

              https://www.cochranfirm.com/imported-chinese-drywall-plague-affects-13-states/

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              • wheatietoo says:

                There were quite a few newer homes here in OK that were affected, too.

                I don’t know the number…but I remember the local news talking about it a lot, back in 2009-10.
                That’s where I remember the quote from about “one entire neighborhood had to be gutted”.

                Here in OK, developers will buy up some fields, then go in and throw up an entire neighborhood in about 18 months.

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            • Bendix says:

              From what I recall, the drywall had a thin paper coating that was of particular trouble in warm, humid climates. The faux-stucco houses would get black mold between the walls.
              They built about a zillion of those houses in the sun belt in the real estate bubble before the last one.

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            • Jedi9 says:

              Don’t forget cheap tools and dollar store may it possible! China is a hazard to the environment with everything they build that finds it way to landfill much quicker than American made! Let’s not mention their raping of pristine forests in Africa with their destructive mining ambitions!

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          • CNN_sucks says:

            Not only drywall, dog food has melamine and ingredients came from china.

            Liked by 1 person

        • Donna in Oregon says:

          Exactly right! Excellent point that everyone everywhere in the MSM world can’t grasp.

          We are going to do a major overhaul of the US infrastructure with US STEEL. Not the cheap crap from China.

          Our buildings, bridges etc. will be much safer and last longer.

          President Trump is a builder. He does not want to rebuild America with cheap, unreliable steel from China etal.

          We have an American President that actually cares about keeping us safe and alive.

          Of course the world doesn’t understand. The last President that cared was decades ago.

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          • Jedi9 says:

            Like Reagan! Because I had to wayyyyy back to really list all the ones that did! Hmm funny how a lot of were not democrats!

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        • Teagan says:

          Wheatley…nothing to add in the way of concrete evidence, but do remember reading that the China steel leaves out one of the steps (probably because of expense) that makes steel up to the old standards. I think posters here have commented that certain manufacturing places will not use China made steel because it’s not safe.
          Hopefully, others can add to this that have better knowledge

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        • beigun says:

          Speaking of fraud on metal strength, how about Kobe Steel admitting such for decades last year? The mea culpa came only a few weeks AFTER Kobe had formed a Joint Venture with US Steel for $400 million….to make “stronger” steel. This is probably why Japan was not given an exception on steel and aluminum tariffs. Fudging the numbers is just as bad as dumping! And it has been going on for a long, long time in many sectors.

          http://money.cnn.com/2017/10/16/news/companies/kobe-steel-scandal-what-we-know/index.html

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        • WSB says:

          Yes. Frankly, Harry Truman made his name by exposing US ateel suppliers in the war who tried to swtch out approved steel specs for less comparable ones. And he did expose them.

          BUT YES, the Chinese ALWAYS cheat.

          Thank you for these links!

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          • wheatietoo says:

            And because the Chinese steel industry is owned by the ChiCom govt…it is cheating right there to begin with, since it is competing with privately-owned companies here in the US.

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            • Bendix says:

              In many non-Western nations, cheating isn’t thought of the way we think of it. It’s not that we never do it, but it isn’t ingrained into our business ethic.
              Also, human life is held cheap in China. They don’t care about Chinese people, there are plenty more where they came from, why would they care about foreigners?

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        • bofh says:

          Chinese-sourced 3/4″ birch veneer plywood at the local big-box store has interior voids and wavy surfaces – very disappointing to work with. I imagine that the Chinese could make better products if paid to do so, but as long as we keep buying their “cheap stuff” because it looks like a bargain, we’ll keep getting garbage.

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        • JoAnn Leichliter says:

          I have been hearing about the inferior quality of much Chinese steel (Why should that product be different?) for quite a while, but in the MSM not so much.

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      • Perot Conservative says:

        I read also recycling became more economical.

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      • FofBW says:

        Thank you WSB

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      • golsono says:

        https://www.startpage.com/ is another search engine where you may (or may not) find more info.
        I use it for all my searches

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      • nbkilgore says:

        WSB; Damn, you came so close to answering your own question. Think back and try to recall what product DJT hammered on during his campaign, the factories and workers he visited and the material they worked with. Even he used these products during his building development years. He would be the first to recognize the importance, usage and quality of steel products. Your answer to the lack of data relative to steel has everything to do with our National Security, you don’t want your foes to get a good look at how weak your Amory and Defenses truly are. We have never seen data on military armor durability tests, I can be certain they won’t be up to US DOD standards. Just think what kind of defense armor we would be knocking out everyday if we had an ample supply of US DOD standard steel. Ask any steel forger what happens when you don’t have the right mix to make a K-Bar Combat Knife. Step one was to regain control of our steel and its quality, next step is to fire up the smelters and finally build, build, build. And you know what comes with build, build, build, jobs, jobs, jobs! No more half ass steel material purposely weakened from China to be used in our armory. China knows the type of steel they have and what type of munitions to use in the event their products are used to build Military Armory such as Strikers, APC, ships and well you get the idea, cheers!

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    • I couldn’t find an answer with a quick search, but here is some related info:

      “China’s steel production went from a third of the output of American mills in 1981 to match US production only 12 years later. It’s posted an 800% increase in production since then.”
      http://money.cnn.com/2018/03/09/news/companies/american-steel-history/index.html

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      • Perot Conservative says:

        Including faulty steel in the $9 Billipn plus interest San Francisco Bay Bridge. Not sure if the micro fractures do to reheating was done in China or here.

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        • kroesus61 says:

          you point on the defective steel is correct so do not discount your point by widely over stating the cost of the Bay Bridge…..it was originally estimated to be a $1B rebuild but Moonbeam when still Oakland Mayor wanted an architectural icon bridge so const climbed to $2B……after cost and time overruns the final tab was $3.2B……several groups in one of my engineering classes did their class projects on the Bay Bridge

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          • Perot Conservative says:

            $6.5 Billion, plus interest. Google it.

            Not sure how many people ok’d reheating the cables, which led to the microfractures.

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    • thedoc00 says:

      Notice how none of the anti-tariff crowd are ever asked the question concerning what happens when owners of the metal monopolies decide the US (specifically) has to pay more for metal and the US has no viable alternative sources that can be brought on line for years. Also, no discussion of the quality of metal being delivered for use, specifically, in the US. There are allot of other similar discussion threads of consequences related to the US not have viable domestic sources of metal and key metal fabbed parts. It is assumed the US will always have access to cheap quality metal products from off-shore and those off-shore suppliers will always behave like nice guys (as if plan 2025 does not exist).

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  4. “Once you see the strings on the marionettes, you can never go back to a time when you didn’t notice them.”

    Love this….

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    • Cuppa Covfefe says:

      Remember “Vivid”, the Ballerina in “The Night of The Puppeteer” in Wild, Wild, West?
      (Or, better yet, the contraptions of Zachariah Skull, the puppeteer himself)… not to mention the hauntingly delicate (whole-tone ostinato) waltz by David Grusin…

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    • GweninKC says:

      Best line of the day. SO true. Once in a while I catch myself thinking of the old line, “ignorance is bliss.” In some ways, life was easier when I didn’t know as much, but then I realize that it’s good to be “woke”

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  5. Rose says:

    Here in Canada our courts recently ruled that transporting beer and spirits across provincial lines can be prohibited if the province feels said product is harmful to the province and society. We can’t even drive a case of beer across provincial lines because our judicial system keeps taking away our rights and telling us it’s for our own good. We produce nothing in Canada anymore, we’re nothing more than a country that slaps made in Canada on foreign goods and then ships it out. Recently it’s been reported all those grown in Canada farmers markets are not selling goods from local farms I don’t wanna know where they’re getting it from-please not China or Mexico. Look I’ll give you Justine America and we’ll take Bernie, how much longer can his life span be?

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    • FofBW says:

      There is about to be a great awakening up there as there has been here.

      Liked by 11 people

      • Rose says:

        We’re not allowed to wake, Justine has made just about everything a liberal doesn’t like a hate crime. I no longer write anything at Canadian venues because they’ll come for us, no I am not joking.

        Liked by 8 people

        • Tony Bianco says:

          Rose, maybe we Canadians should start writing on Canadian venues so they will come after us. We can then ask the USA to take us as political refugees, and no I am not joking either.

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        • ellen says:

          I am afraid that we will not be able to get Justin out. Ontario and Quebec have more ‘seats’ than all the other 8 provinces and territories together. Illegals crossing the border and the more than 25,000 refugees have mostly settled in Ontario and Quebec. Trudeau has already said that the new refugees can vote and I will not be surprised if he allows the illegals to vote. Only 2 provinces are important at election time.

          Without the Electoral College model that the US has, I feel that we are going the way of Britain. Trudeau is bankrupting the country.

          I read this blog daily. I am thankful for the insightful information provided by Sundance and the comments by the Treepers.I am encouraged that the US, under the leadership of President Trump, will bring prosperity and independence to the citizens of the U.S.

          May God bless the USA!!!

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          • Curry Worsham says:

            Make Canada Great Again!!!

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          • H.R. says:

            ellen, that, for me, was quite a moving comment coming from a political hostage on our Northern border. Thank you for your good wishes.

            I wish you, and all the other like-minded Canadians, the very best. Canadians are tough and the Canadians who are awake and care will find a way to MCGA.

            Courage! Fight on! ❤️️👍👍

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          • Perot Conservative says:

            Good luck Ellen! May I ask you a question? The illegals you refer tobin Canada, are they primarily American, Mexican, or from Centeal America?

            Does Canada also have an aging population and low birth rate? I’ve heard you have middle eastern immigrants… sizeable? Integrating well?

            You certainly have a large land mass … I always wondered if Canada would grow population wise.

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            • ellen says:

              Perot Conservative, in 2018 most of the illegals are Nigerians with US travel visas. I will try to post the article but I’m not a proficient computer user. Just in case it does’t print, I will give you a short synopsis. Regarding Nigerians “It is apparent that they obtained those visas with the express intent to actually go to Canada,” said Hursh Jaswal, communications director for Immigration Minister Ahmed Hussen.
              Majority of illegal migrants to Canada in 2018 are Nigerians with U.S. travel visas
              https://globalnews.ca/news/4177786/migrants-nigeria-us-travel-visas/

              Last year, most of the illegals were Haitians due to their protected status being lifted by the US.

              I live in northern B.C. and our East Indian population is fully integrated into our community. As a former teacher, the children were great to work with. Well mannered and focused on learning. Absolutely great kids and parents. Last year, our community received some refugees and that did not work out very well. The refugees were upset that the males and females prayed together in the mosque, the women were not covered etc. Consequently, some of the new arrivals were not allowed to attend the mosque. They were moved to Vancouver.

              In recent years, there have been lawsuits due to the lack of prayer rooms in schools for Muslim students. They have won those lawsuits.

              God bless the USA! Believe me, there are many Canadians praying for you!

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              • Perot Conservative says:

                So you’re seeing similiar problems to Europe? Smaller scale?

                I have a friend from India stay with me, great guy, born again Christian. But still effectively wanted a dowry, even though both he and his bride are college educated. American firms have actually turned over many tech jobs to Indians, thank you H1B Visa. I just heard they have the highest income on America, higher than Japanese and Caucasians.

                Are you having any uptick in crime?

                On the West Coast we have large numbers of illegal immigrants, mainly Mexican and Central American. Many good people, some opportunists, and some criminals. Many don’t know our large GAO estimated 5,000 murders per year by illegal immigrants. Gov’t estimate is 12 Million, I would say the true number us 30 – 45 million. African Americans have been driven out of South Central LA, a traditional black community. Media purposefully conflates legal immigrants (very law aniding) with Illegal immigrants.

                I really, truly thought our nation was lost. The election of Trump against all odds is so amazing. There are still many battles. He is not perfect, nor am I.

                I’ve been listening to Dinesh DSouza college talks on youtube, today it was Columbia? So nice to hear an educated, modest man speak about President Trump and our history.

                I had no idea the (racist) Democrats told FDR he could NOT support anti lynching laws, and could NOT give blacks Social Security, if he wanted their support! He agreed. He also debunked the ‘Southern strategy and Nixon, who signed affirmative action, being racist. He had some interesting observations about PT as well.

                I was in Vancouver around 1998? Clean, vibrant, loved Stanley Park, food, Grouse Mountain and your Chinatown. And no homeless!

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    • FL_GUY says:

      I’ve got a better idea, you can send Twinkle Socks and we can send Bernie to Venezuela. Let’s give ’em what they claim to love – WIN/WIN!

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    • Flman78 says:

      If you’re in Quebec look at Jardin de la grelinette. Jean mmartin Fortier & his wwife run ii

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    • Bendix says:

      Speaking of Bernie, why isn’t that old commie relic speaking out on behalf of the American worker, while this is going on?
      I thought commies were supposed to pretend to be in favor of factory workers?

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      • Perot Conservative says:

        Shouldn’t he be ecstatic at the Trump job numbers?

        I was taught in college 4.0% was the “natural rate of unemployment”… i.e., some people don’t want to work.

        Is Bernie’s wife in prison yet?

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    • SwampRatTerrier says:

      Probably from China since author Bageant tells how rural roadside fruit stands in Virginia were selling Chinese apples as early as 2010 – or even earlier.

      Rainbow Pie is a coming-of-age memoir wrapped around a discussion of America’s most taboo subject — social class. Set between 1950 and 1963, Joe Bageant uses Maw, Pap, Ony Mae, and other members of…..

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      • SwampRatTerrier says:

        This was in response to Rose – don’t know how it got placed way down here. Btw does everyone know that the U.S. rules have been changed so imported food doesn’t have to be labeled such. Nor does the country of origin have to be declared any longer.

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    • bofh says:

      “ruled that transporting beer and spirits across provincial lines can be prohibited if the province feels said product is harmful to the province and society. “

      Muslims thinking ahead towards some day making a “dry” province? (Islam prohibits alcohol.)

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    • Jenny R. says:

      What better way to get to full nationalization? Canadian economic practices have basically gutted any domestic market/smaller business. This leaves only larger corporations in charge of all means of production, which works hand in glove with a government that in turn is in charge of all means of consumption (because by this point you have a welfare state due to all of those unemployed or only partially employed workers, and even the fully employed do not make enough to make ends meet).
      It has happened in Europe; it is happening in Canada; it nearly (and could still) happen here.

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  6. Dutchman says:

    Gorra admit, while I followed Perot’s whiteboard explanations, and “great sucking sound”, didnt feel like I understood ‘Trade’, very well.
    THEN I read S.D. articles, and now feel I can debate trade policy with confidence.
    Echoing many when saying THANK YOU, SUNDANCE, for educating me!!

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  7. listingstarboard says:

    At he risk of sounding totally ignorant…Is the US ready to crank up our steel production??..I feel like the industry was destroyed under the last several presidents.

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    • Rose says:

      If you don’t why pay more for made in China through Canada just buy directly from them at reduced costs. We’re just their steel pimps anyway.

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    • Publius2016 says:

      The factories and plants are getting re-started as we write!

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      • Perot Conservative says:

        That’s why Trump spent the first year slashing over 10,000 regulations! And building confidence.

        On Maria’s Bar. Show our trade representative spoke of a new aluminum plant in Appalachia with starting wages of $65,000 per year!

        Wow!

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    • JMC says:

      I seem to recall that there is a worldwide steel glut that will last a long time because of Chinese overproduction.

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      • wheatietoo says:

        That’s why the issue of ‘quality’ needs to be exposed and laid open for all to see.

        If the charges are true…that cheap Chinese steel is weaker and lower quality…then it becomes a Big Safety problem.

        Various grades of steel are rated for their strength.
        If China has been cheating on this…and putting false ratings on their steel products…then the truth needs to come out.

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    • Plain Jane says:

      I know of one mill that was awesome, but is decaying because current foreign ownership will not put money into it to repair. The owner has mills in various countries and could GAS about his American mill.

      The engineers who work there are disgusted, and can’t attract new talent. They are counting the days until they can retire. These are men who took great pride in the mill, but are defeated by the ownership. Beyond sad.

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    • sundance says:

      https://www.usatoday.com/amp/659254002

      The new $1.5 billion aluminum rolling mill that will soon be built — with a groundbreaking on Friday — will cover 45 acres. This state-of-the art mill will create up to 1,800 construction jobs and about 500 permanent positions in a county where the unemployment rate is almost 40% higher than the national unemployment rate.

      Striking a strong blow on behalf of working men and women, the starting salary at this plant will be $65,000 a year. This compares with a median household income in Boyd County of $44,140 — which is well below the national median of $59,039.

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  8. Perot Conservative says:

    Trump also considers PR.

    No reason to stomp on great jobs report.

    No reason to muddy IR Report.

    No reason to muddy the waters with North Korea and Chi-NA.

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  9. jbrickley says:

    Instead of owning up to the problem and accepting responsibility they are still stuck in P.R. Spin Mode. Spinning a narrative that has nothing to do with reality and all to do with denial and saving face. They keep it up and the noose will tighten and their avenues of alternative options will disappear.

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  10. Publius2016 says:

    O Canada made a fatal mistake…don’t poke the Lion…O Canada said to illegals to come over and guess what??? There were riots by Real Canadians (ie Montreal) and O Canada changed his tune…Dance Fool Dance!

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  11. Normally Quiet Observer says:

    Chuck Todd’s predecessors would be bitch slapping this little weasel for destroying everything they took DECADES to build! MTP was always FEARED by politicians, of BOTH parties, because MTP always asked the ‘hard’ questions, and did not pander to them with softball lead-in questions. MTP used to bring in the questions the American people were REALLY asking, not what the pols SAID they were asking (more often than not they were lies). Todd has ruined the show, and continues to show that he is a bought and paid for MSM Liberal Elitist.

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  12. The Boss says:

    I don’t know about the rest of you, but I am officially Justined out. I can’t take any more of his sniveling, nasally, pubescent voice.

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  13. Publius2016 says:

    Wh make an announcement when Mexico is about to vote for Senor O!!! Once we the American People hear his actual policies, The Wall will get 10 ft higher!! Senor O is worse than Fidel…Fidel at least had military discipline…Senor O is an Academic Communist!

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  14. simicharmed says:

    VERY INTERESTING>>>>>>””Do you remember the list of items the dynamic duo Justin Trudeau and Chrystia Freeland selected as targets for their counter-tariff position? Check it out here. What do: “felt pens”, “rubber boats”, “orange juice” and “tomato ketchup” have to do with the U.S. steel and aluminum tariffs?””

    So….Following the article link (the Answer) – Canada is clearly INTERFERING in US (Mid-Term) elections! COLLUDING with the Democrats too…targeting specific industries where Republican Representatives are up for re-election…

    Seems to be a behavior of the Democrats….colluding with Foreign Governments to manipulate our election system and violate the Civil Rights of US Citizens.

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  15. CorwinAmber says:

    has there ever been a country more blessed than Canada? They could completely disband their armed forces, knowing full well that their muscular neighbor would ALWAYS protect them…OTOH, history has shown than when such a situation occurs, the big guy usually throws up his hands after a while and takes over the weaker neighbor – Canada knows that will never happen. What a deal! And I say that having worked with Canada’s finest over the years – Princess Patricia’s Light Infantry in southern West Germany comes to mind during the Cold War…splendid soldiers they were and Canadian snipers are among the best. Perhaps one day a Canadian Trump will arise to put things right…

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  16. Rob says:

    All this and free at last from the Global Warming Scam
    Awsome.

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  17. clipe says:

    President Trump looks at any international arrangement on any subject – Iran, North Korea, trade, climate – and asks himself whether it is a good deal for America. If he thinks it is not, he starts making trouble. He loves a deal but, unlike some politicians on this side of the water, he sees no point in a bad deal.

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/06/president-trump-has-broken-the-spell-of-climate-change-mania/

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  18. jbrickley says:

    So I suppose all those “How it’s Made” episodes filmed in Canada are no longer the case. All that manufacturing as shuttered and they import it all from China then slap a Made in Canada label on it ship to the US?

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  19. Donna in Oregon says:

    Alternate universe….Watching OANN news and they’re playing “Groovin” by the Little Rascals while I go thru this Canadian muck. Some form of multi-tasking…. TV OANN and CTH in tandem.

    That’s the song I’m gonna hear in my head every time Justin ‘Bieber’ Trudeau yaps about NAFTA.

    Groovin’ on a Sunday afternoon……someone send it to Canada, they need to chill. In the end, everything will be all right.

    I hear President Trump singing: We’ll keep on spending sunny days this way
    We’re gonna talk and laugh our time away
    I feel it comin’ closer day by day
    Life would be ecstasy, you and me endlessly
    Groovin’, on a Sunday afternoon
    Really couldn’t get away too soon
    Ah-ha-ha
    Ah-ha-ha
    Ah-ha-ha

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  20. 4beagles says:

    Sparkle socks is SOL

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  21. dman1971 says:

    What do leeches suck when you rip them off your back? Exactly the point…..nothing. All of the countries in the world will bend the knee and come running back begging for fair and equal trade. The days of leeches are OVER!!!

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  22. Joshua2415 says:

    Yes it’s over…..Call it a daay…..

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  23. ecmarsh says:

    Canada has been sucking on Americas teat sense we kicked King Gorge azz. 30 years later we felt sorry for the American traitors that were driven to the Great White North.
    They are descendants of the traitors against my forefathers, and seems they still are.
    I could care less what they say.

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  24. CollusionMyth says:

    Sundance wrote “the interview is a typical narrative engineering attempt by Chuck Toad”
    The Toadster…lol

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  25. Angel Martin says:

    God must be punishing Canada to raise up this fool to a position of “leadership” over us.

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  26. Ono says:

    Welcome to the big leagues Justin. This isn’t “T” rudeau. ball.

    Three strikes and you are out.

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  27. mr.piddles says:

    In 2013 some globalist suckup wrote:

    “Put in proper perspective, Nafta was not about net jobs lost or gained, or changes in the trade deficit. Its goal was to increase living standards in the partner countries. With updates, Nafta has served as the model for U.S. free trade agreements with 17 other partners around the world, and currently serves as a reference for trans-Pacific and trans-Atlantic negotiations. At this pace, in another 20 years, Nafta may well be remembered as the template for U.S. commercial engagement with the world!”

    https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2013/11/24/what-weve-learned-from-nafta/ross-perot-was-wrong-about-nafta

    Ah yes. Tells you everything you need to know. It’s not about jobs lost or gained. It’s about globali… .. ER… I MEAN FREE TRADE!

    Donald J. Trump: Agent of Change.

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  28. umr_engnr says:

    Correct me if I’m wrong but unless Canada has a cheaper option to import these items (i.e. inflatable boats, orange juice, etc) won’t the cost just get raised to compensate meaning that Canadians are going to be the ones hurt most by this behavior.

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  29. Hillyard says:

    Since both Canada and Mexico’s economies would look totally different with out the NAFTA back door loopholes exploited by China and others, you’d think Justin knowing all about back door action would temper his remarks

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    • bverwey says:

      Hillyard …. Turdeau junior doesn’t know squat and is much worse than Turdeau senior was. Both junior and his side kick Foreign Minister Chrystia Freeland are playing word games with Canadians. When POTUS sais it’s about USA security he means self reliant USA production capacity. When the Turd spouts of about touchy feely issues such as being good neighbours through thick and thin he is deflecting and smoke screening Canadians for domestic consumption.

      As a Canadian I do not begrudge USA trade stance on that. It will be a detriment to Canada but these liberals now in power do not realize we a basically a trader of raw products to the world. This could have all been avoided had the liberal loons simply agreed to update the old Nafta deal.

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  30. Curry Worsham says:

    Interestingly,the @4:05 section about “underhanded” Chinese practices was cut out of the broadcast.
    Likewise, the “aluminum smelter” comment (@2:50) that was in the promo piece was cut.
    (The now defunct plant, as Sundance pointed out two days ago.)

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  31. Phil Garber says:

    “That great sucking sound…”

    I remember when that line was used by Canadians opposed to NAFTA when it was first brought in. The Americans were going to steal all our jobs. 🙂

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  32. John Matrix says:

    Jeez, looking at that picture you posted of those two SIMPLETONS makes me feel sad for normal Canadians Sundance.
    Just look at the expression on those two MORONS!
    What the hell happened to the country that gave the world some of the toughest athletes ever to play hockey, wolverine, and killer power trios???

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  33. jnr2d2 says:

    Canada will break up. Alberta, Manitoba and Sack. become each US states( we gain 6 Repub senators).Ontario becomes its own British Commonwealth country and French Quebec a new French nation. Eastern maritime provenances align with all US states east of the Hudson(we lose 6 demo states and 12 demo senators). British Columbia become Hong Kong east and aligns with Western portions of Washington and Oregon – Repubs pick up 2 more senators. The three northern Territories form the Native People Nation.The SanFran area down to southern LA, and west of the Rockies becomes the country of San- asylum. Balance of California goes Repub.–Repubs gain two more senators.
    The SanFran area down to southern LA, and west of the Rockies becomes San- asylum. California goes Repub. We’d only have 5-6 Demo states. God save the Queen —-and Donald Trump!!!!!

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  34. Donna in Oregon says:

    Angry about Canada? Nope. President Trump has said repeatedly that it isn’t the fault of other countries that our leaders screwed us.

    Average Americans knew, a long time ago, what NAFTA was really about.

    I’m just grateful that we aren’t a bunch heathens like some of those other countries that go all crazy, burn down the town and throw the baby out with the bath water.

    It’s frustrating. I get it. I do. But come on man…..

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  35. Davey says:

    The only thing worse than Trudeau/Castro embarrassing himself, is doing it on American National television. Shut your mouth boy. And Freeland? She’s nothing but a part of Trudumps 50% of government MUST BE FEMALE policy.

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  36. jefcool64 says:

    I don’t want to go back to the time I didn’t see the puppet strings. Give me the guy who will cut them and yank them so hard the puppeteers fall from the rafters.

    Thank you Trump

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  37. MontanaMel says:

    @JNR2D2….Dang, I like your math and thinking….
    Only have a couple of questions….do we have to take all that TAR up at the northern end of Alberta with the nice end of things further south?
    And:
    Where do we stick the Oiler’s and Flame’s in the Conference line-up?….
    Or:
    Rather, how do we protect Coors from the REAL BEER of the Great White North? Of course, Doug and his brother may have some ideas about how anything sent Southward needs to be “leavened”

    When all the dust settles – the “man on the street” in O’Canada….is going to be pissed at down east deluxe…. I wouldn’t blame them if they went all slap stick on those teams back east too…A little “Gordie” behind the net should leave a lasting impression, eh?… Check-6 and don’t eat the yellow snow!

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  38. Bendix says:

    I was impressed with Justine. He has a stronger grasp of these issues than I previously thought. Not impressed with his sneaky lying whininess, though.
    I never bothered with the ‘enhanced’ driver’s license or passport I would need, when they started requiring them for reentry into my own country from Canada.
    I’ll get a passport when I’m ready to visit some other foreign country.
    I have a friend who moved to Montreal, he wanted to stay there and expand his already successful business, the Canadian government made it so hard he had to leave.
    It’s sad, I used to love Canada so.

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  39. Donna in Oregon says:

    The Canadians I met stocked up on booze while they were visiting the USA. Those people can drink….a lot. I think they’re born with an extra liver.

    No orange juice, no Screwdrivers. No more mimosas….. Eh, probably like bourbon better anyway.

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  40. modsquad says:

    Understand the bigger picture here. The Federal Reserve is primarily owned by European banking families. The U.S. is by far the largest profitable entity in the world. These banking dynasties need a way to pull their profits out of the U.S. without every American getting wise to them being fleeced. This is done through trade deals—NAFTA is just one of them. The TPP was to be another, likewise the Paris Agreement. These international trade deals allow the banking dynasties to move their profits worldwide without suspicion or penalty. The EU entity itself is a part of this organization to move money unhindered. This is why there’s been no exit yet for Brexit, goddamn if the English commoners are going to be allowed a say in the matter.

    In Canada’s case, the Bank of Canada is owned and operated by the same Europeans. Trudeau’s a middle manager put in place to do as he’s told on their behalf. He knows how this all works, his first loyalty is not to Canadians but to the foreign bankers who pay him. His father was cut from the same cloth and obeyed the same masters.

    Here’s an example of what happens when even trade agreements aren’t enough to hide all the money being moved around… when stuff like this does bubble to the surface, it’s called ‘fraud’ and not ‘profiteering.’

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  41. Sunshine says:

    Justin from Canada couldn’t bring himself to say the word ”Trump” not once in the interview. It was always ”this president… or whatever”.
    That alone is a tremendous lack of respect.
    I don’t see why PDJT would show up at the G7 this coming week.

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  42. anthony earl says:

    so with the tariffs, does that mean eventually that all the new cars prices are gonna rise by amount of that tariff?

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  43. Hampshire says:

    This excellent article is loaded with informative economic facts and analyses and not whiny hot air like Justin.
    Justin bragging about Canadian participation in WW II is true but it is a disgusting politically motivated diversion.

    It’ s obvious the world would’ve been lost to fascism and Japanese militarism if it wasn’t for the incredible sacrifices and efforts of the USA, but Canada’s war started in 1939 due to its links with England and many Canadians that signed up punched above their weight during the war. (One million served out of 11 million people (some conscripted later) but the Trudeaus were not one of them as well as a large block of anti British French Canadians)

    Most of our Canadian families at that time have several members that served. (ie. Can. Merchant Navy and RCN Corvettes traversing Atlantic to support England when it was alone and U Boat packs were sinking untold supply ships, the Battle of Britain, Japanese invasion of Honk Kong, D-Day and Europe etc. So what was Papa Trudeau doing during 1939-45.

    “Justin’s father Pierre Trudeau opted not to serve in World War II, although of age and in good health. He traveled to Josef Stalin’s Soviet Union to participate in regime-sponsored propaganda activities. He wrote in praise of Mao’s murderous regime in China. Trudeau lavishly admired Fidel Castro, Julius Nyere, and other Third World dictators.”
    http://nationalpost.com/full-comment/david-frum-the-disastrous-legacy-of-pierre-trudeau/

    “This is a man who questioned the Allies when the Jews were being sacrificed, and when the great extermination program was on, he was marching around Outremont [Montreal]on the other side of the issue.”
    In a 1942 by-election,”Pierre Trudeau spoke passionately against the candidacy of a military official put up by the Liberals.
    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/mulroney-lashes-out-at-trudeau/article20401374/

    “Here’s a link to an article written by a Canadian veteran about Justin Trudeau–a PM of Canada that brags to Chuck Todd about the Canadian military.”

    “Here’s Why Justin Trudeau’s Presence At Military Events Is An Insult To Veterans”

    It outlines Justin’s broken campaign promises and his low priority of veteran’s issues and the military in general. Several social justice issues are at the very top of his agenda and the military is almost an afterthought to his “progressive” gov’t. Trade and the economy are probably second to these causes as well.
    https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/bruce-moncur/heres-why-trudeaus-presence-at-military-events-is-an-insult-to-veterans_a_23354394/
    The unctuous fake smiles and whiny tone of Justin and Freeland on the U.S. MSM are a disgraceful embarrassment to Canada.

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  44. JoAnn Leichliter says:

    The sunset provision in ANY trade agreement should be the sine qua non. My guess is that President Trump would agree to a ten year sunset, which might be better anyway. But the lack of such a provision gives agreements a sort of eternal life and makes changes far more difficult (as we see) when changing circumstances make such agreements obsolete.

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  45. Canada would have to get permission from the UK to sneeze in public. So, it’s not going to do anything

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