WOW – Interesting Interview With Joe DiGenova Links DOJ-NSD John Carlin With FISA Court Judge Rudolph Contreras…

The word is getting out. People are slowing beginning to piece together the BIGGER STORY of what fundamentally lies behind the Obama administration’s 2016 use of FISA 702(16)(17) surveillance, and how the intentional non-oversight of the Department of Justice National Security Division was used in the construct of the unlawful FBI surveillance and spying operation against presidential candidate Donald Trump.

During a radio interview on WMAL legal analyst and former U.S. Attorney General for Washington DC, Joe DiGenova, specifically highlights the DOJ National Security Division head John P Carlin and his role in the 2016 FISA warrant.  Other than within our own research few people are paying attention to the DOJ-NSD side.

Additionally, and in complete concurrence with our prior research, DiGenova states first-hand knowledge that FISA Court Judge Rudolph Contreras did not recuse himself – but was rather forcibly recused from the Michael Flynn case by either U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts or the aggregate FISA court.

IMPORTANT: Listen to the first 7:30 of the interview below. This is secondary confirmation of what we have independently been outlining for months:

On December 7th, 2017, it was announced that U.S. District Court Judge Rudolph Contreras was mysteriously recused from the Special Counsel case against General Mike Flynn, five days after Judge Contreras accepting the initial pleading. No explanation as to ‘why’?

(Reuters) The U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia judge presiding over the criminal case for President Donald Trump’s former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn has been recused from handling the case, a court spokeswoman said on Thursday. (read more)

One might think the media apparatus, or pundit proletariat writ large, might be curious about why a U.S. District Court Judge would be recused. Alas One would be wrong. The recusal angle is transparently missing from any follow-up by media; and apparently the judicial cat also has stolen the tongue of congressional curiosity. Nothing. Nada. Zilch.

The story has been memory holed into the concentric whirlpool of nothingness.

We have speculated that U.S. District Court Judge Rudolph Contreras was recused, either by himself or by challenge, because he is also a FISA Court Judge and could have signed off on the October FISA warrant that led to the wiretapping and surveillance of General Flynn.  Joe DiGenova states he has first-hand knowledge Contreras was forcibly recused.


The question then becomes why did the judge even allow himself to preside over the first hearing of General Mike Flynn’s rather odd guilty plea?

Was the October 2016 FISA warrant part of the evidence in the overall process charge against Mike Flynn? What are the rules of FISA warrant content in cases where the warrant leads to a prosecution? Did Judge Contreras sit on the initial plea hearing so another judge would not see the FISA information, recognize any problems, and maybe not approve the plea?

The only two significant things that happened between the initial Mike Flynn plea hearing and the recusal of Judge Contreras was:

#1) The stories about anti-Trump FBI Agent Peter Strzok and his involvement with Fusion-GPS and Christopher Steele; and

#2) FBI Director Chris Wray appearing before the House Judicial Committee and hearing Representative Jim Jordan demand to see the 2016 FISA application.

In fact, Judge Contreras was recused only a few hours after that House Judicial Committee hearing.

These are all just general questions that stem from Judge Contreras appearing to concede to a conflict, but doing so only AFTER the first administrative hearing on the case. If the conflict existed on December 7th 2017, such that a recusal was needed, would not that conflict exist prior to December 7th, 2017?

Apparently no-one else is in the least bit curious; and absent of anyone seeking such clarity; it leads CTH to wonder if U.S. District Court Judge Rudolph Contreras wasn’t possibly the same judge that denied the initial FISA application in June of 2016.

It’s very rare that a FISA application is denied. Considering he possibility the denial was based, in part, on the target (candidate Donald Trump) of the FISA warrant; and considering the massive ramifications within the U.S. government applying to monitor, wiretap and use surveillance upon a presidential candidate; it would not be a stretch to think Judge Contreras would establish a ‘higher threshold’ for granting such authority.

Given what we know now, that we did not know before, namely that FBI Agent Peter Strzok and DOJ Deputy Bruce Ohr were part of the counterintelligence operation that began in July 2016…. and understanding that Nellie Ohr, Bruce’s wife, was working for Fusion GPS the contractor for Christopher Steele and the Russian Dossier…. ultimately hired by Hillary Clinton;…. and accepting that the information within the dossier was part of the underlying FISA application… the entire construct of the FISA application is suspect.

Adding yet another layer to that sketchy outline, it was previously revealed that Peter Strzok’s mistress within the DOJ, Lisa Page, might have been the actual DOJ official to apply for the FISA warrant. (SEE HERE) Lisa Page is the legal bridge between the FBI Counterintelligence operation (Peter Strzok) and the DOJ National Security Division (John P Carlin).

REMINDER – FBI Agent Strzok to FBI Attorney Page:

“I want to believe the path you threw out for consideration in Andy’s office that there’s no way he gets elected – but I’m afraid we can’t take that risk. It’s like an insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before you’re 40.”

In 2015 Asst. Attorney General Sally Yates blocked any inspector general oversight of the DOJ National Security Division (SEE Pdf HERE).  The Office of Inspector General. Michael Horowitz, requested oversight over the DOJ National Security Division and it was Sally Yates who responded with a lengthy 58-page legal explanation saying, essentially, ‘nope – not allowed.’ (PDF HERE) All of the DOJ is subject to oversight, except the NSD.

During the 2016 FBI Counterintelligence operation (began in July 2016 per Comey) the DOJ National Security Division appears to be the originating entity for the FISA 702(17) “About Queries”. Again, 702 is basically spying on Americans; the actual “spying” part is 702. Item 17 is “About Queries“, which allows queries or searches of NSA collected data within the search fields of intelligence inquiry.  Those “About Queries” retrieve the content of email and phone conversations for the targeted response.

As a result of NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers suspecting [FISA 702 (#17 – email and phone calls)] surveillance activity was being used for reasons he deemed unlawful, in mid 2016 Rogers ordered the NSA compliance officer to run a full audit on 702 NSA compliance.

The NSA compliance officer identified several strange 702 “About Queries” that were being conducted. These were violations of the fourth amendment (illegal search and seizure without a warrant), ie. unlawful surveillance and gathering. Admiral Rogers was briefed by the compliance officer on October 20th, 2016.

The DOJ National Security Division then set Admiral Mike Rogers up to take the fall for their unlawful conduct.  John P Carlin preempted Rogers by filing a notification with the FISA Court on 26th September 2016 (look at the pdf).

DOJ-NSD head John P Carlin was setting up Rogers as the scapegoat while knowing the NSA FISA compliance officer was still reviewing their conduct. Carlin wouldn’t notify the court unless he was trying to cover something. Carlin then announced his resignation.

The NSA compliance officer did not brief Admiral Rogers until 20th Oct 2016. Admiral Rogers notified the FISC on 26th Oct 2016.

Summary of the Appearance of Activity – •Obama’s political operatives within the DOJ-NSD, that had no oversight, appear to have been using FISA 702(17) surveillance “about inquiries” that would deliver email and phone communication for U.S. people (Trump campaign). •The NSD unit was working in coordination with the FBI Counterintelligence Unit (Peter Strzok etc.).  •In an effort to stop the activity NSA Director Mike Rogers initiated a full 702 compliance review.  •However, before the review was complete the DOJ-NSD had enough information for their unlawful FISA warrant which worked retroactively to make the prior FBI surveillance (began in July ’16 per James Comey) lawful. Mike Rogers stopped the process on October 26th 2016. •As a result of his not going along, Rogers became a risk; DNI James Clapper demanded he be fired.

Which takes us back to U.S. District Court Judge Rudolph Contreras.

Was the recusal an outcome of Contreras recognizing the concerns he expressed in the June 2016 FISA denial; that were later presumably belayed with a more narrow FISA application (albeit enhanced and weighted by the additional unlawful evidence collected, ie. the “insurance policy”) evidenced in his seeing how the FISA warrant he granted was used against the defendant, Flynn, that appeared in his courtroom?

Did Contreras see in Flynn’s outcome – evidence of what he feared would happen? Did that lead to Judge Contreras forced recusal?… or was Contreras a participant in the ‘matter’?

So many questions, and yet a transparent lack of overall curiosity around the recusal.

Ten days after the 2016 election, November 17th 2016, Admiral Rogers travels to Trump Tower without telling ODNI James Clapper. Rogers likely informs President-elect Trump of the prior activity by the FBI and DOJ, including the probability that all of Trump Tower’s email and phone communication was being collected.

On November 17th, 2016, NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers went to see President-Elect Donald Trump in Trump Tower, New York.  –SEE HERE–  Director Rogers never told his boss DNI, James Clapper.

On November 18th, 2016, the Trump Transition Team announced they were moving all transition activity to Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster, New Jersey. –SEE HERE– Where they interviewed and discussed the most sensitive positions to fill.  Defense, State, CIA, ODNI.


FBI Agent Peter Strzok’s former boss was Bill Priestap, FBI Asst. Director in charge of Counterintelligence. [The same Bill Priestap James Comey stated was the person who decided not to tell congressional oversight of the investigation] Bill Priestap’s boss was FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe. Directly above McCabe in the chain-of-command was FBI Director James Comey.

Inside Main Justice: Associate Deputy Attorney General Bruce G Ohr’s former boss was Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates. Sally Yates boss was Attorney General Loretta Lynch.  John P. Carlin was head of the National Security Division inside the DOJ, and Lisa Page was the DOJ lawyer who represents the bridge between the legal side (DOJ) and the investigative side (FBI).

This entry was posted in AG Jeff Sessions, Big Government, Big Stupid Government, Clinton(s), Conspiracy ?, Decepticons, Deep State, Dem Hypocrisy, Dept Of Justice, Desperately Seeking Hillary, DHS, Donald Trump, Donald Trump Transition, Election 2016, FBI, media bias, President Trump, Russia, Spying, Susan Rice, THE BIG UGLY, Uncategorized, Valerie Jarrett, White House Coverup. Bookmark the permalink.

407 Responses to WOW – Interesting Interview With Joe DiGenova Links DOJ-NSD John Carlin With FISA Court Judge Rudolph Contreras…

  1. DanO64 says:

    The title to this part of the nightmare got me actually shaking before I read it. I had to hear it then read it twice. The summary three times. I’m still ALMOST in a state of disbelief. The Judge was forced to recluse because he was outed by someone. This will take several post and will be one long thread tonight with many comments by many people. Lost of questions. (Hi guys).

    Liked by 2 people

  2. Donna in Oregon says:

    Talks about Flynn right here in this article. The FBI sending unauthorized info to 3rd parties, specifically Flynn.

    But the FBI also was forced to admit its agents and analysts shared espionage data with prohibited third parties, ranging from a federal contractor to a private entity that did not have the legal right to see the intelligence.

    Such third-party sharing is a huge political concern now as Congress and intelligence community leaders try to stop the flow of classified information to parties that could illegally disclose or misuse it, such as the recent leak that disclosed intercepted communications between the Russian ambassador and Trump’s first national security adviser, Michael Flynn.

    The court’s memo suggested the FBI’s sharing of raw intelligence to third parties, at the time, had good law enforcement intentions but bad judgment and inadequate training.

    “Nonetheless, the above described practices violated the governing minimization procedures,” the court chided.

    A footnote in the ruling stated one instance of improper sharing was likely intentional.

    “Improper access” to NSA spy data for FBI contractors “seems to have been the result of deliberate decision-making,” the court noted.

    The recently unsealed ruling also revealed the FBI is investigating more cases of possible improper sharing with private parties that recently have come to light.

    The government “is investigating whether there have been similar cases in which the FBI improperly afforded non-FBI personnel access to raw FISA-acquired information on FBI systems,” the court warned.

    The ruling cited other FBI failures in handling Section 702 intel, including retaining data on computer storage systems “in violation of applicable minimization requirements.”

    Among the most serious additional concerns was the FBI’s failure for more than two years to establish review teams to ensure intercepts between targets and their lawyers aren’t violating the attorney-client privilege.

    Liked by 8 people

    • Crystal says:

      Would some of those 3rd parties include foreign governments?

      Liked by 2 people

    • Jim H\odgen says:

      The issue is that is is becoming more and more likely that we will see a disclosure that one of the contractors was…. Fusion GPS or FGPS-connected personnel. The dossier was sourced to Steele as a cutout… what to say and howho’s name to connect it to was supplied by the crooks in DoJ that were building the case…

      It wasn’t a snap decision, it wasn’t a summer fling by the DNC, it was a longer laid plan than that and that will come out sometime this summer I bet because that will be one of the most tightly held of the tidbits…


    • Ron Roepke says:

      Wasn’t this raw intelligence sharing exactly what obama changed the rules on, just before he left? I would have to look up the exact date.
      Might obama’s Order have been illegal? How sweet would that be, to finally catch obama red handed breaking the law?


  3. phoenixRising says:

    Judge Contreas’ wiki page has been scrubbed…
    had to search to find what he was doing before Obama appointed him to FISA Court;;;

    “…In 1994, Contreras was hired by Eric Holder Jr., then the U.S. attorney for D.C., to join that office. Mark Nagle, vice president and general counsel for Marriott Vacations Worldwide Corp. and Contreras’ predecessor as civil division chief, spoke about Contreras’ many victories, including his time leading the city’s Medicaid fraud unit. “He strove every day to do the right thing,” Nagle said. Channing Phillips, counselor to the attorney general and the former principle assistant U.S. attorney in D.C., said Contreras “has a tireless work ethic and led by example.”

    … HIRED BY ERIC HOLDER JR. —- all ya’ need to know folks.

    Liked by 23 people

    • bill says:

      I take it that this is same Eric Holder Jr. who was held in contempt of congress ,

      The same person who said “Democrat committed to the ideals of my party and proud of the work that I did as attorney general.” ,

      The same person who approved the Uranium One deal?

      Liked by 12 people

    • Plain Jane says:

      Info here:

      Rudolph Contreras is a federal judge on the United States District Court for the District of Columbia. He joined the court in 2012 after a nomination from President Barack Obama. Contreras was appointed by Chief Justice John G. Roberts to join the United States Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court on May 19, 2016.[1][2][3]

      2016-Present: Judge, United States Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court
      2012-Present: Judge, United States District Court for the District of Columbia
      2006-2012: Assistant U.S. attorney and chief of the civil division, District of Columbia
      2003-2006: Assistant U.S. attorney and chief of the civil division, District of Delaware
      1994-2003: Assistant U.S. attorney, District of Columbia
      1991-1994: Private practice, Washington, D.C.[1][2]
      Judicial career
      District of Columbia
      Nomination Tracker
      Candidate: Rudolph Contreras
      Court: United States District Court for the District of Columbia
      Progress: Confirmed 238 days after nomination.
      Approved Nominated: July 28, 2011
      Approved ABA Rating: Majority Qualified, Minority Well Qualified
      Approved Questionnaire: Questionnaire
      Approved Hearing: October 4, 2011
      Approved QFRs: QFRs
      Approved Reported: November 3, 2011
      Approved Confirmed: March 22, 2012
      Vote: Voice vote
      Contreras was nominated to the United States District Court for the District of Columbia by President Barack Obama on July 28, 2011, to fill the vacancy created by the retirement of Ricardo Urbina.[4] Obama commented on this and other nominations, telling the press, “I am honored to put forward these highly qualified candidates for the federal bench. They will be distinguished public servants and valuable additions to the United States District Court.”[2]

      Contreras was rated Majority Qualified, Minority Well Qualified for the nomination by the American Bar Association. Hearings on Contreras’ nomination were held before the Senate Judiciary Committee on October 4, 2011, and his nomination was reported by U.S. Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.) on November 3, 2011. Contreras was confirmed on a voice vote of the U.S. Senate on March 22, 2012, and he received his commission the next day. Since 2016, Contreras has served as a judge on the United States Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, a position to which he was appointed by Chief Justice John G. Roberts. His term on that court will expire on May 18, 2023.[1][3][5][6][

      Liked by 3 people

    • woohoowee says:

      Are Marriott and MGM the same entity?


    • sat0422 says:

      Marriott VP – good to know because this past year I found that staying in a Marriott property was not a good experience.
      One little thing that really got my attention was when free WI-FI would not work. I was asked to bring it to the front desk where a manager tried to hide from me that she first had to go to CNN to then connect to free WI-FI. That was in September, 2017
      In February, 2017, my sister and I stayed at a Marriott and every time our TV was turned on, we were diverted to CNN. It was like no other system I have ever encountered.

      Just say NO to the Marriott brand is how I now travel. Even if I have to stay at a low rate budget motel, I say NO to Marriott.

      Liked by 2 people

    • Kokanee says:

      My question is … who in the government has the power to tell either Roberts or the FISA court to recuse Contreras after Jim Jordan demanded to see the FISA application? I think there is still a very powerful actor that controls these people that we know nothing about.


  4. Whoa:
    Judge Contreras was Obama’s FINAL APPOINTMENT to the FISA Courty on May 16, 2016.

    Did Obama plant him as a WILLING EMBED to approve a FRAUDULENT FISA WARRANT?

    Liked by 19 people

    • Correction: May 19, 2016

      Liked by 2 people

    • bofh says:

      From wiki(spit)pedia on Fisa court: “The court’s judges[28] are appointed solely by the Chief Justice of the United States without confirmation or oversight by the U.S. Congress.[29]”. So no, not a BHO appointment, at least not directly.

      Liked by 3 people

      • phoenixRising says:

        Proposals that would alter the process for selecting FISA judges include S. 1460, the FISA Judge Selection Reform Act, which would effectively shift authority to the chief judges of the circuit courts; H.R. 2761, the Presidential Appointment of FISA Court Judges Act, which would authorize the President to choose FISA …May 7, 2014

        Reform of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court – Federation of …

        Click to access R43534.pdf

        Liked by 1 person

      • Unless we consider SC CJ Roberts, who Obama spied on, to thereafter be compromised … understanding how he twisted ObamaCare to empower the Obama takeover of the healthcare sector of the economy. No smoking gun there. 🙄

        Liked by 9 people

        • wheatietoo says:

          Yes, and whatever it is that the O-team has on Chief Justice Roberts…still exists.

          As long as Roberts sits on the Supreme Court, there is the risk that he could be pressured/coerced to make rulings that are not in the best interest of the country…or in the interest of Justice.

          Liked by 6 people

          • Jeffry says:

            I believe SC CJ Roberts was blackmailed by Obama who threatened to have Roberts adopted children sent back to Ireland.

            Liked by 3 people

            • wheatietoo says:

              That is the theory that has been widely discussed…

              Let’s hope that’s ‘all’ there is that could be used to blackmail Roberts.

              Liked by 2 people

            • I think the problem was that only Irish citizens could adopt Irish children. How did an American citizen legally get around that rule?


            • senda72 says:

              “Mr. Coffin said that after the Robertses married nine years ago when they were both in their 40’s, they tried to have children. After a several failed adoption efforts, he said, they “got lucky” with two children, Josephine and John, now 5 and 4.”
              That article was written in 2005, so now the children are 17 and 16 (depending on birth date). Within a year or two, the concern of losing the children should be eliminated (if true) since they will be adults.


          • mztore says:

            Ever since the odamit insurance penalty was declared a tax instead of just a penalty, I’ve had my doubts about roberts. (The names are not capitalized ’cause they don’t deserve it any more, not because I’m lazy.)

            Liked by 4 people

          • Contrarymary says:

            Just consider that it wasn’t Obama at all. He may have been pressured by the pope. Roberts is a devout Catholic, raised in Jesuit schools, boarding schools, and college. The Catholic Church owns many, many medical centers, many housing/apartment complexes and other organizations that get their funding from the taxpayers along with charities that handle refugees and illegals that get free medical care. Just remember, if you are a Catholic, the pope holds the keys to heaven.


      • wheatietoo says:

        Chief Justice Roberts has a history of giving BHO what he wanted.

        Liked by 3 people

  5. Mk10108 says:

    The media has no duty to report anything and frankly irrelevant. The salient point is verifiable FACTS of the Obama Administration in collusion with the DNC and Hillary Clinton spied on the Trump Campaign through an illegal warrant. Yet no one has been arrested.

    Hold no hope anyone will be held accountable nor go to prison.

    Liked by 3 people

  6. Donna in Oregon says:

    Unless President Trump decides to sue, Obama and all of them.

    Now that would be fun.

    Liked by 3 people

  7. ozarkhitman says:

    The more america learns about this the more angry we become. For the several hundred traitors now working in the Doj,FBI,CIA,NSA,state dept IRS etc. I hope at some point the military moves in on you and removes you to Cuba for your own safety . military tribunals are super fair compaired to the alternatives that history has documented about overthrow of tyrants.


  8. phoenixRising says:

    I have re-read Andrew McCarthy ‘s March 2017 article in light of what we now know about the FISA warrant and the dossier. A few things jumped out at me, this in particular:

    “… Trump’s tweets on Saturday prompted some interesting “denials” from the Obama camp. These can be summarized in the statement put out by Obama spokesman Kevin Lewis:

    ‘A cardinal rule of the Obama Administration was that no White House official ever interfered with any independent investigation led by the Department of Justice. As part of that practice, neither President Obama nor any White House official ever ordered surveillance on any U.S. citizen. Any suggestion otherwise is simply false.’

    This seems disingenuous on several levels.

    First, as Obama officials well know, under the FISA process, it is technically the FISA court that “orders” surveillance. And by statute, it is the Justice Department, not the White House, that represents the government in proceedings before the FISA court. So, the issue is not whether Obama or some member of his White House staff “ordered” surveillance of Trump and his associates. The issues are (a) whether the Obama Justice Department sought such surveillance authorization from the FISA court, and (b) whether, if the Justice Department did that, the White House was aware of or complicit in the decision to do so. Personally, given the explosive and controversial nature of the surveillance request we are talking about – an application to wiretap the presidential candidate of the opposition party, and some of his associates, during the heat of the presidential campaign, based on the allegation that the candidate and his associates were acting as Russian agents – it seems to me that there is less than zero chance that could have happened without consultation between the Justice Department and the White House.

    Second, the business about never ordering surveillance against American citizens is nonsense. Obama had American citizens killed in drone operations. Obviously, that was not done in the U.S. or through the FISA process; it was done overseas, under the president’s commander-in-chief and statutory authority during wartime. But the notion that Obama would never have an American subject to surveillance is absurd. ”


    Kevin Lewis’ remarks remind me of:

    Hamlet then turns to his mother and asks her, “Madam, how like you this play?”, to which she replies “The lady doth protest too much, methinks.”

    Secondly… if the first sentence of Lewis’ tweet is correct, then the second cannot be, for if Obama’s right hand did not know what the left was doing, how can Lewis know for sure that surveillance was never ordered on any American citizen?

    Which brings me to Andrew’s closing paragraph:

    “… Moreover, it cannot be glossed over that, at the very time it appears the Obama Justice Department was seeking to surveil Trump and/or his associates on the pretext that they were Russian agents, the Obama Justice Department was also actively undermining and ultimately closing without charges the criminal investigation of Hillary Clinton despite significant evidence of felony misconduct that threatened national security.”

    This appears to be extraordinary, politically motivated abuse of presidential power.”


    Lovely how Andy linked the two (Dossier and gross negligence of classified info) —

    Liked by 4 people

  9. H&HC 2nd-16th says:

    “DiGenova, who has bureau sources close to the FBI investigation, named Attorney General Loretta Lynch, Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates, Assistant Attorney General Peter Kaznick, Assistant Attorney General John P. Carlin, and Assistant Attorney General Leslie Caldwell as senior level staff at DOJ have who have “done something that they are going to regret.” Its the first time I heard this comment. I like Joe D. I wonder if he’ll come over for a drink or two. His insight will help this crusty old confused mind that I’ve been stuck with.

    Liked by 4 people

  10. JimmBobbCooter says:

    I find myself on a sliding scale from “the shoe is going to drop” to “they’re all going to skate, just like always” on a daily basis.

    Liked by 2 people

    • StormyeyesC says:

      I find myself communicating with my elected government critters almost daily now. I tell them what I am feeling (like you did here) and I insist that they do their jobs and do want is right. I remind them that I voted for them and expect results. I doesn’t hurt and if more people did it, they might stop listening to BS polls.

      Liked by 3 people

    • mimbler says:

      I think, to varying extents, we are all in that boat Jimm


  11. StormyeyesC says:

    His wife represents the whistleblower that we have heard ZERO about. I remember hearing on TV that he would be interviewed and then everything fell into that rabbit hole that has no bottom and I never heard anything more. Joe knows a LOT I am sure

    Liked by 1 person

    • cali says:

      Listen this whistleblower had an attempt on his life 2 days after his name was printed in the media as he attempted to take a walk behind his home. He encountered an armed guy whom he did not know. He said he luckily was armed himself which saved his life. He did not receive any type protection.
      He is under chemo-treatment for cancer that ails him. However his documents collected are in good hands.


  12. Bulldog84 says:

    We knew that Judge Contreras did not recuse himself because he was asked by the Special Counsel’s office or by Flynn’s counsel. If they had asked, there would have been a motion filed.

    As concerning as it is that the judge took the plea, it is even more concerning that someone had to force him to recuse himself after he did it.

    For the first time, I read the Statement of the Offense in the link to Flynn’s case. I’m shocked that it shows what must have been eavesdropping on Flynn’s conversations with the transition team.

    The true magnitude of all of this has struck me.

    Liked by 6 people

    • JimmBobbCooter says:

      Bulldog, thanks to you mentioning it, I also read some of that document.

      What leaves me somewhat despondent is this, “FLYNN also falsely stated he did not remember a follow-up conversation…”

      So they get the guy for saying he can’t remember something? Funny, I seem to recall HRC, Huma, Cheryl Mills, etc., use “I don’t recall” about a million times in their public and/or published testimony.

      It was a “get out of jail” card for them, but a “get IN jail” card for Flynn?

      I guess I’ll prepare myself to be let down again. Hopefully, my expectations will be exceeded.

      Liked by 4 people

      • mztore says:

        hitlery also admitted that she “mis-spoke” which is the same thing as lying.


      • David A says:

        … and what Flynn was doing which he did not admit to the FBI was, in itself, NOT illegal and WAS supportive of the Obama admin action. ( It had exactly ZERO to do with Russia influencing the election.)

        So why the arrest and prosecution? – and IF the politically corrupt investigators were being investigated, would their internal communications revealing “going after Flynn to get Trump,” reveal their own corruption?

        I have been trying to understand A – why Flynn said anything to the FBI, and B – how could he be so politically incompetent as to put himself in this position. ( Everybody knows that since watergate, it is the cover-up that gets you indicted) Yet apparently Flynn covered up perfectly legalization actions?

        Is there an outside chance that Flynn did this on purpose to further draw in and gain additional evidence against the corrupt deep – state operatives?


  13. kate says:

    Oh boy, the dirty swamp is messy and deep, dear God please help us, amen.

    Liked by 5 people

  14. basedmaga45 says:

    Amazing find. The question is with Degenova being as deeply informed in the rabbit hole of this complex issue against POTUS why is he not a member of his legal council? I am not sure if the lawyers the President has are that cognizant of the level of coordination and fraud coming at the President.


  15. Bind no longer says:

    Is there any oversight, supervision or review by Chiefs Justice Roberts, or are these just free to do as they will? If not, then this should be the test case for changing it!


  16. If Contreras had to be forcibly “recused” what in our wildest imagination would justify leaving him on the FISA Court?

    Why the hell not “removed”.

    Liked by 5 people

  17. WeThePeople2016 says:

    I remember a while back DiGenova saying in an interview (I believe it was with Hannity) that it is no secret that when Comey was in New York at the same time as Trump, Comey despised Trump. He said that Comey made sure that everyone knew that in New York that he was connected to. It is not surprising that Comey’s continuation of his hatred of Trump is probably going to be his downfall, according to DiGenova. DiGenova tends to think that Comey is going to go down.

    Liked by 2 people

  18. MacKenzie says:

    Contreras was appointed to the FISC JUST before the first (and failed) FISA attempt. Maybe his appointment was a form of ensuring a friendly swamp judge would be available.

    Did he review both FISA applications? Or did one FISA judge refuse and reject the first application and then Contreras was assigned to handle the “enhanced” one that was approved? Also, no matter which whether there were one or two FISA judges involved, what material inadequacy caused the first submission to be deemed insufficient and how was the dossier created/modified to SPECIFICALLY address those probable cause evidentiary shortcomings?

    Liked by 1 person

    • Would it not be Judicial protocol to go back to the same judge to reapply for a warrant .
      Would noy4 going to another Judge be considered judge shopping??

      Liked by 1 person

      • Some Old Guy says:

        I’m spitballing here but it would seem that might be more likely if it were a formal request for reconsideration or appeal of the first decision denying the FISA request, otherwise it seems more likely that this request would be treated as a new request. If that were the path, I’d think the appropriate path would be the “normal” mode of assigning cases. That of course assumes Obama’s DOJ would submit itself to appropriate norms.


    • wheatietoo says:

      That’s a good question.

      How many times were FISC warrants refused by other FISA Court Judges, on requests by these O-team political operatives, in their efforts to spy on US citizens for political reasons?


  19. phoenixRising says:


    The radio interview is a gem… hope many other pieces of the puzzle come your way.

    I found Joe Digenova’s comments to be VERY uplifting…considering he is a former US Atty and know what a crime looks like! loved his comment about Comey’s tweet on ethics: ” … his presentencing plea for mercy” –

    Hurray! Comey’s going to jail! All your hard work Sundance, all the hours and time you give are NOT in vain…

    Loretta is going to jail! (moving on up) Holder’s going to jail! Obama’s going … please don’t wake me! An old lady can dream, right?

    Liked by 6 people

  20. scott467 says:

    “Michael Horowitz, requested oversight over the DOJ National Security Division and it was Sally Yates who responded with a lengthy 58-page legal explanation saying, essentially, ‘nope – not allowed.’ (PDF HERE) All of the DOJ is subject to oversight, except the NSD.”


    You just couldn’t make this stuff up.

    Can you even imagine how brazen Yates is, to tell an Inspector General that some particular office or division is exempt from oversight?

    It’s like an inside bank job (robbery), where the bank teller who is cooperating with the robbers tells the manager that the security cameras can only watch the other tellers, but not her window.

    Hmmm… I wonder where the illegal activity is taking place…

    These people are so corrupt and so confident that they are above the law that they don’t even CARE how obviously corrupt their behavior is.

    Saying the OIG can oversee everything in the DOJ except the NSD?

    I wonder where the illegal activity is taking place, Sally?

    It would be hilarious if it wasn’t so pathetic.

    Liked by 6 people

    • JimmBobbCooter says:

      So did Yates’ gambit work?

      Liked by 1 person

      • scott467 says:

        “So did Yates’ gambit work?”


        Maybe we find out on the 15th, when OIG’s report is given to the oversight committee.

        I suspect that whether it worked or not depended on who won the election.

        If Sick Hillary managed to cheat her way to stolen victory (and survived to inauguration day, which I am confident she would not have), then Yates’ gambit would have worked, because IG Horowitz would be checkmated by the Clinton syndicate and the continuation of the corrupt DOJ.

        But when Trump won, Yates’ gambit became a ticking time bomb, with big white letters spelling ACME across the front.

        Liked by 1 person

    • Your Tour Guide says:

      Besides going after Trump, maybe the NSD bunch had
      some tie ins with the Uranium 1 debacle. That might have
      been the big reason that Sally wanted them hermetically
      sealed. Going after Trump would have been icing on the

      Liked by 2 people

    • Kind of like Cheryl Mills getting immunity and then telling them which questions they could ask her.

      Liked by 1 person

      • phoenixRising says:

        Speaking of Mills… it’s my understanding that if you are given immunity, and then you LIE..
        the immunity is null and void. So, immunity for Mills and Aberdin has … poof!
        The crooked FBI agents also destroyed laptops belonging to Mills and Aberdin… but all is not lost there either, is it? I mean doesn’t that info still float above us in the ‘cloud’???

        Liked by 1 person

    • Sharpshorts says:

      Yates on the NSD:
      All these worlds are yours to explore, except…
      (the obelisk warning in “2001: A Space Odyssey” )

      Liked by 1 person

    • David A says:

      … and so damm nearly successful.

      Likewise, HRC, the would be president forgetting every security protocol she signed, violating said protocols, destroying evidence of said violations in three disparate ways, ( bleach-bit, a literal hammer, and deleting thousands of emails) while simultaneously making millions procuring political favors for foreign governments, would be sickly humorous and absurdly brazen, but for the fact that THUS FAR she has gotten away with it!


    • cali says:

      @Scott467: You must always remember under what premise they all conspired to commit treason: Insurance policy that assured Hillary would NOT lose! That in a nutshell was what these bastards believed – arrogant and corrupt and so sure they finally usher in the progressive utopia!
      When it blew up in their faces – here we are! That is why all of them froth out of their mouths day after day.
      Now you may have a tingling to know that the 9,200 sealed and ready indictment filed with courts throughout the country are ready to drop!
      It took a year but it was all worth it and most of all this will never happen again I am convinced.
      Navy Admiral Rogers and his other Military Generals and troops will do their part t stop this rest assured.
      Always remember Flynn and crew in the MI did not rest and were busy for a long time ergo the target by Obama and Hillary et al. He collected intelligence on all of their treasonous actions for a long time.


  21. gustafus21 says:

    The grim reality is – business as usual is no longer tenable. Conservatives like Gowdy and Sessions are playing both sides to save what’s left of the FBI, CIA, and Justice Dept.

    This is African or Soviet style lawlessness. I question their allegiance to their oath of office, the Constitution and Rule of Law in their misguided zeal to iron out these “irregularities” behind the scenes rather than go for the prosecutions necessary.

    This is a stunning show of acquiescence by men I trusted. They care more salvaging our reputation abroad than cleaning up the swamp. Er, what swamp?

    Only 3rd world dictators prosecute former administrations… yada yada.. I am gob smacked by the acceptance of FBI corruption by the left.. who suffers most from manufactured evidence, planted weapons, phony plea deals and crimes of entrapment… this is the daily bread of those “well meaning officers on the ground”….. so by no means is this villainy confined to the top.

    Wormwood is something every reader should see on Netflix….. its as bad or worse than we ever imagined.

    I want scalps…

    Liked by 5 people

    • Bind no longer says:



    • scott467 says:

      “Only 3rd world dictators prosecute former administrations… yada yada..”


      The Hussein administration was the American equivalent of a 3rd world dictatorship.

      Those who argue that the crimes committed by Hussein should not be prosecuted are as corrupt as the criminals they defend.

      It’s as simple as that.

      Liked by 7 people

      • mimbler says:

        Yes, that quote is definitely a straw man assumption. They are wanting us to infer that any prosecution of a former administration would be political persecution.

        In this case, it would just be uniformly applying our laws to punish criminal behavior no matter who commits it.

        Liked by 5 people

      • mike says:

        Prompt removal of corrupt materials is standard medical and engineering practice.

        Liked by 3 people

    • JimmBobbCooter says:

      Lots of thoughts from your post:

      First, the left is only concerned with the “ends” not the means, Oh sure, they will raise holy hail on the means when it doesn’t meet their ends, but when it does, everything goes. In fact, their immortal Sauk Alinsky says it would immoral NOT to use any tactic the rest of us would find reprehensible in pursuit of their goals.

      But to the lawlessness, yeah, these episodes are straight out of Russia… KGB-like surveillance, disinformation campaigns, etc.

      It truly seems like the end of the republic if this doesn’t get smacked down.

      Liked by 3 people

    • scott467 says:

      “Conservatives like Gowdy and Sessions are playing both sides to save what’s left of the FBI, CIA, and Justice Dept.”


      I am pretty confident that Sessions is sand-bagging, and when the time is right (when the last trap is sprung), Sessions is going to drop the hammer.

      On the other hand, I am nearly 100% confident that Gowdy is a dues-paying, card-carrying member of the treason-class.

      Liked by 9 people

  22. scott467 says:

    “Did Contreras see in Flynn’s outcome – evidence of what he feared would happen? Did that lead to Judge Contreras forced recusal?… or was Contreras a participant in the ‘matter’?”


    If Contreras was forced off the case (by Roberts or the FISA panel), then it is highly likely that Contreras is a participant, i.e., the Mistress was judge-shopping.

    Is Contreras wearing an pediatric cast-boot, the type that have become so fashionable among the treason-class over the past several months?

    Liked by 3 people

  23. mitrom says:

    Seems like the whole system is rigged, but now it’s being exposed. This just shows that the judiciary needs to be cleaned up also of these partisan judges. Thanks Sundance!

    Liked by 1 person

  24. Thomas says:

    Some interesting tidbits from the Order:

    Mark Elias, of Perkins Coie, represented both the Clinton campaign and the DNC. Elias retained Fusion for research on Trump.
    Fusion was accused of acting as an unregistered agent of the Russian government, in violation of the Foreign Agent Registration Act, based on work it performed for Prevezon Holdings, a Russian state-owned company. The order also states that reports confirmed that various law firms and businesses had retained Fusion on behalf of their clients to perform Russia-related work. The Order says the committee has evidence that links these businesses with Russia and Russian operatives. Presumably Prevezon is one, but there are more.

    Prevezon settled a money laundering case with the DOJ.

    Prevezon was represented by Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya, who is now infamous for her meeting with Trump Jr and others at Trump tower.

    It’s really not hard to connect these dots. There was collusion with Russia to be sure. But follow the money: Hillary/DNC – Fusion – FBI/DOJ- Prevezon (i.e. Putin a/k/a Russia) – Natalia Veselnitskaya – Trump tower meeting to set up Trump.

    Liked by 1 person

    • lastinillinois says:

      You got it


    • JimmBobbCooter says:

      What is really sad — beyond all the blatant lawlessness — is to think about all of the brainpower and man-hours spent on concocting, enacting and covering up. The left really doesn’t give a shinola about anything but power, but imagine how many people could have been helped if the people involved had donated their time and money to something like building homes for Habitat or some other volunteer work that actually improves people’s lives.


  25. Sunshine says:

    To incite interest, President Trump would have to come out with a fun tweet comprised of two words: ”Judge’ (or Judgment or Judging – and ”Contreras”. Trump can manage this, he’s a superbly intelligent person.


  26. JoD says:

    Another brick in the wall…
    Mark Levin radio interview w/ John Solomon..1/5/18
    Per J.S….
    “I’m hearing from multiple sources that there are other Senior FBI and Justice Department Officials for whom they found politically charged emails suggesting that they didn’t like Donald Trump and might have been out to get Donald Trump and there/their going to come forward in the next few weeks.”
    Looks like Petey Stroke is going to have to share the spotlight.

    Liked by 2 people

  27. ElGato says:

    This place is one grand novel. I don’t read books anymore. I just nestle in every evening and dive deep into these fascinating times at CTH. There will be a movie about this someday. It will be one of the greatest Good vs Evil stories ever told.

    Liked by 3 people

    • Mike says:

      I don’t think a movie will cut it, just way tooooo much. Gonna have to be one of those 10 episode series at least. hope roger simon, james woods or mark burnett can be first to the punch so that the hollywood libs don’t get there first with a hit piece like they did on Palin or Clarence Thomas.

      Liked by 2 people

      • Anita says:

        A mini series. Let Sundance be the narrator. Gov Palin could be lead prosecutor, just for kicks and sweet revenge. Trump himself could play the judge. I could go on…..


  28. So where might this come into play?
    18 U.S. Code § 595 – Interference by administrative employees of Federal, State, or Territorial Governments
    Seems to be quite relevant to this subject and the detailed information Sundance has provided in other post.

    Liked by 1 person

  29. A must listen audio! Thank you Sundance and those on the branches of the Tree House assisting with the research and getting the word out. The most important part for American taxpayer’s to know is that we are paying for these government criminals’ pensions and healthcare benefits for the rest of their life and that’s something most law abiding American taxpayers will never receive.

    Liked by 1 person

    • phoenixRising says:

      Speaking of which, do you think POTUS genius Trump could draft an EO rescinding payment to past presidents for the rest of their lives?

      “…But the days of this kind of taxpayer support for ex-presidents may be numbered. Last year, the Republican Congress passed a bill that would have set a flat $200,000 a year in pension payments and capped other expenses at $200,000 a year per president.Jan 20, 2017”

      “… But Obama vetoed the legislation, telling Congress that he did so because the bill also would have terminated the salaries and benefits of former presidents’ staff, and made it harder for the Secret Service to protect former presidents.

      “The Secretary of the Treasury pays a taxable pension to the president. Former presidents receive a pension equal to the pay that the head of an executive department (Executive Level I) would be paid, as of 2015 $203,700 per year. The pension begins immediately after a president’s departure from office.”

      Haven’t former presidents stolen enough from the people while in office? Do we need to continue to pay them when they leave?

      Why do ex-Presidents need Secret Service Protection for the rest of their lives?

      (Questions are rhetorical of course)

      Liked by 1 person

  30. Thecleaner says:

    Here is my take with Flynn.
    Obama fired him from the DIA. Flynn then goes and hooks up with Trump. What was the real reason Obama fired him? Only they know, but knowing what we know Obama was up to, it’s not a stretch to conclude that Flynn was on to him and wouldn’t play ball.
    Once he joined Trump he became the most dangerous man alive, hence the all out assault to discredit and attack him relentlessly including wire tapping.
    They knew once Trump got sworn in and Flynn took the reins as DNI, he would find out everything and the whole plot would be export.
    The one thing they didn’t count on was Rogers spilling the beans to Trump, which basically wiped out the whole plot on Flynn.
    I think Flynn is screwing with Mulehead right now, knowing Trump will pardon him and is exposing the corrupt Judge and Mueller/Rosenstein who went at him immediately. We haven’t heard the last from Flynn I suspect.

    Liked by 1 person

  31. jmclever says:

    One question that is bugging me. Did this treasonous group of FBI/DOJ ppl decide to takethis action on their own? That doesn’t seem likely to me. Who is pulling the strings? Maybe this is the result of the Sea Island “Stop Trump” retreat?


  32. Charlotte says:

    Ugly web of an attempted coup:


  33. Nunya Bidness says:

    A minor observation: Interesting that these unelected officials can make decisions affecting the operation of justice at the highest levels based purely on political motives and are not subjected to scrutiny or second guessing (until now). But President Trump cannot make an EO supported by precedent and fully within the clear scope of his powers but a District court judge will issue a injunction blocking it.

    Things that make you go “Hmmmm”…


  34. mediachecker says:

    DOJ/NSD John P Carlin Las Vegas: “We share sensitive information with you so you can defend against or disrupt attacks before they happen or in real time. In the past year alone, the FBI presented over three dozen CLASSIFED, sector-specific threat briefings to companies.”
    Is this legal…sharing dozens of classified info to private companies…how many companies did he share it with… Why would the deep state want to partner w private companies? He pushes a strong sales pitch. Did he also partner w a private company close to Mandalay who stores a couple of tanks – used at the Mandalay shooting? Did Mandalay sign up w them as a partner? Would he use hacking by Iran to scare the owners…NSD can do the hacking and then use a stamp from any country to disguise it. Carlin is now at the Aspen Institute, who appears to have had an in w the deep state – he’s also Chair at Morrison & Foester making big bucks.

    Did the CIA deep state sign a public-private partnership w the media – WaPo payment from the CIA. Did sensitive classified info change hands…an agreement to leak into etc. Same w google et al
    Bottomline: how much classified info is circling the country yet we can’t see any of it…

    Note: Carlin, w SPLC funding, worked the law enforcement circuit on Domestic Terrorism labelling most of us…He was Mueller\s chief of staff for yrs and his general counsel…they’re close. I guess they’re all close in their evil-doings.

    (Lois Lerner also comes to mind, who encouraged her one might wonder, doubt she did it on her own)


    • mediachecker says:

      Sundance, your work is beyond reproach.Keep it up and please stay safe. In my post…the bottomline is obviously not only that we can’t see classified material, forgot to finish it. Meant to say the deep state crosses all 17 or more agencies – methinks there are agencies within agencies. 🙂


  35. D. Manny says:

    So let’s recap all we have learned…..

    1. Contreras was initially hired by Eric Holder.
    2. Contreras was then promoted by Obama/Chief Justice Roberts to FISA judge right before the FISA warrants were requested.
    3. Contreras was also the judge overseeing the Hillary e-mail issue?
    4. Contreras denied first FISA warrant (trigger alert!).
    5. Then after approving the next FISA warrant, instead of doing the usual 90-day extension, Contreras puts FISA warrant on unusual 30-day extension (which means he knew there was something problematic with it).
    6. Contreras was also judge overseeing Flynn indictment.
    7. Contreras is forcibly removed from Flynn case, not by the usual channel (meaning not by Flynn’s attorney) but by somebody else….Justice Roberts? FISA Court?


    • D. Manny says:

      QUESTION: Why would you give over an issue of such importance (wiretap warrants on a POTUS nominee) to a newbie judge on the FISA court?

      Hmmm, Justice Roberts?


      • D. Manny says:

        Because all the other FISA judges had turned you down, didn’t they? They were too smart to touch that subject, so you needed somebody young, dumb, and ambitious…..


        • D. Manny says:

          That’s why nobody in the MSM will touch the Contreras recusal……because its implications taint Justice Roberts….


          • D. Manny says:

            Contreras rolled the dice and lost….he bet on Hillary winning…..And he was just dumb enough to try to cover his tracks by agreeing to oversee the Flynn indictment…..


  36. cali says:

    @Sundance: You finally tied the unexplained ‘recusal’ of the FISA Ct judge Contreras together which I knew you would.
    You pose the question whether Contreras was a complicit or non-complicit angle in that rabbit deep hole and I am convinced what he was a ‘willing’ participant in this illegal operation.
    I also believe that he was fired although legalese is ‘forcibly recused’ after Horowitz found the evidence and Roberts was notified.
    It is my hope that Contreras will stand trial having used willingly and knowingly his knowledge after co-operating and conspiring with the Obama/gillary/Strzok/Comey/Pag/Lynch et mob to charge Flynn with a crime he knew well that there was no crime but rather than Flynn became a target being a part of the political opponent and Trump campaign.
    This is really beyond the pale and we have long known that political appointed judges conspire with their politically aligned party to do what can be done via the power they have in the court.
    It can’t get worse than that and needs to be not only reversed but those involved – all of them – from the smallest clerk to highest position held in government including the white house – to stand trial.
    This is no longer a crime but has even surpassed sedition ending in treason!

    Liked by 1 person

  37. Bulldog84 says:

    I apologize for coming back to this so late. I can’t get my mind around the Flynn Statement of the Offense linked in this post.

    One of the Special Counsel signators to the Flynn document is a woman named Zainab Ahmad. I googled her out of sheer curiosity. Although she allegedly normally works for the DOJ in New York prosecuting terrorism cases, she was sent to “Main Justice” for some special temporary project in 2016, right around the time the first FISA application was filed. She later went back to her regular job for only a few months, and then went to work for the Special Counsel.

    At some point in 2017 she was profiled in an article in the New Yorker.

    It seems odd that a supposed hard core prosecutor of terrorism cases would allow herself to be publicly profiled and exposed in a “popular” magazine article. This suggests an ambitious person with questionable judgment.

    Then I remembered what has been said in this site’s posts about Mueller’s purpose being to protect the people who had compromised themselves.

    White House visitor logs show that she was at the White House several times in 2016.

    Excuse my ramblings.

    Liked by 2 people

  38. mediachecker says:

    Re: Mary McCords husband?


  39. Mickturn says:

    I smell a HUGE, ‘Judge Contreras, RAT’. I’ll bet lots of money that HE WAS part of the conspiracy to get Trump. Hopefully I’m right, one more DeamonRAT gone…hopefully with all his friends to PRISON!

    As a side note we have FAR too many crooked Judges the Libs have put on the courts over the years and it would be good to have a PURGE of these political hacks from our courts!


  40. MR. BIG says:

    Recused FISA court judge Rudolph Contreras was hired by Eric Holder Jr., then the U.S. attorney for D.C., to join that office in 1994.


  41. John Q Public says:

    Why did the FBI and contractors unmasking FISC court ruling of April and May 2017 not get picked up by congress or another investigative body so it could be prosecuted. This was a judicial ruling that 4th admendment right were violated. It just sat there on the internet and yet the DOJ spokeswomen said that the would like to see the Nunes memo so they can determine the violations of the law. Can they not see the problem with that statement. My God we are in trouble!!
    Free Flynn, No crime; Prosecutorial malfeasance; No prosecution.
    Probatio vincit praesumptionem.
    Post hoc ergo propter hoc.


    • MTK says:

      The answer to your question is quite simple, many Congressional interests DIDN’T want to scratch the surface too closely. These congressional interests needed these matters to go away.

      In my forty sum years of political/wisdom growth a politician is part of the herd dynamics, either marked to be culled from the herd or promoted to higher standings.
      Note, says nothing about the political ethics or merits of the politician, says a whole lot about the herd.


  42. JeffK says:

    This is by far the most disturbing thing I have seen ppl in US gov do in my lifetime. We the ppl need 2 rise up and remove these traitors of the United States from any & all positions of power & prosecute 2 the fullest extent of law. These scumbags have betrayed each & everyone of us. This isn’t supposed 2 happen in America


  43. MTK says:

    One of the most infuriating aspects of the so called ‘small group’ investigation has to be the behind the scenes positioning of defence legalise to keep the various parties from answering the heart of the charges as a group and as a web of related activities.

    Of coarse I am refering to the FISA abuse to frame the incoming adminstration with ‘muh Russia’ collusion, their obstruction of the HRC email ‘matter’ and the larger dubious ramifications of the UraniumOne, Clinton Foundation pay for play and HRC tenure at State with its rampant corruption just to name a few, because there is also the DNC/MSM efforts to misdirect the PR Nightmare of HRC away from her campaigne and DWS IT Awan affair with Congressional members to name just a few more.

    With all these over lapping interests of the various people involved, I am greatly worried that unless these interrelated investigations are brought together under one umbrella the final outcome will be a WHITEWASH.


    • MTK says:

      Strike dubious from my above post, i was trying to say the dubious nature of any valid reasons for these deals of the Clinton’s other than the self interest of their enrichment.
      In the context of where i used it, dubuous changes the meaning to a position that the UraniumOne investigation is dubious and not worth investigating.


    • none other says:

      Easy . You are use to the left telling you everything favorable to them and the right being washed away by it. This time the facts and the proof are out of the Lefts hands. they may control the propaganda media . but they no longer control the levers of power


  44. Adjudicator says:

    If the judge was forcibly, not voluntarily, removed from the case, then he likely has unclean hands in the matter of General Flynn’s “guilty” plea. The evidence against Flynn appears tainted by fruit from the poisonous tree. I predict that he will retract his plea, that the charge against him will be dismissed or withdrawn, and that dirty cop Mueller’s blackmail tactics (threatening Flynn with prosecution of his son) will be exposed and will land Mueller in a mother load of trouble.


  45. Curt says:

    Looks like ‘whistle blower’ and secret document thief Edward Snowden may have had a point back in 2013.


Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: Logo

You are commenting using your account. Log Out /  Change )

Google photo

You are commenting using your Google account. Log Out /  Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out /  Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out /  Change )

Connecting to %s