The non-pretending reality behind this duo is that Marco Rubio knows Mark Warner participated in an illicit and unlawful effort to target Donald Trump using the intelligence community and the national security institutions which included the DHS, ODNI, CIA, FBI, NSA and a weaponized DOJ-NSD.
There is absolutely zero possibility Rubio didn’t know what the U.S intelligence apparatus, DOJ, Mueller team and his friend across the aisle, Mark Warner, was doing. Despite the SSCI silo that surrounds him, Senator Rubio knew the motives, intents and purposes of every element within this network from 2016 through 2021. Denying this reality is pretending on a level that is insulting to the honest observer.
As a consequence of that reality, anything Rubio and Warner say about the national security status is suspect to an admission they are both selling a story that is based on an entirely false framework about the construct of the geopolitical world outside the USA. If you understand the cleaving taking place between both global zones, West and non-West, then everything Warner and Rubio say about activity outside the Western sphere becomes transparently motivated. Most of their review is complete BS, and akin to trying to obfuscate the reality of the world “out there.” WATCH:
TRANSCRIPT – MARGARET BRENNAN: Thank you for doing this–
SENATOR MARCO RUBIO (R-FL): Thank you.
MARGARET BRENNAN: –and for speaking in the bipartisan way you’re sitting down with us today. How would you both define the greatest national security threat facing our country right now?
SENATOR MARK WARNER (D-VA): Well, I would define the immediate threat of making sure we push back Putin’s aggressive behavior in Ukraine, that we try to resolve the circumstance in Gaza, where you can eliminate Hamas, but also recognize the humanitarian challenge. But frankly, over a longer term, the bigger challenge, I think, remains China. We’ve never had a nation of equivalent economic size. And they are investing in technology domain after technology domain, where they hope to not only be number one, but frankly, dominate the field. And I think Marco and I, and our committee has really been at the leading edge of trying to expose that whether it was 5G or whether it was challenged around TikTok or the the need to make sure we bring the semiconductor industry back, but that China long term threat.
SEN. RUBIO: Yeah I think in a broader sense, I would say that the world is, you know, countries around the world have determined the unipolar world is over, and they seek to challenge it. In China’s case, they want to, if not replace, at least be an alternative to an American led system that’s been in place, certainly since the end of the Cold War, and even predating back to the end of the second world war. The Russians argue that they’re a great power, who are who deserved to have buffer nations outside of their borders that they have control over. Hence, you know, they want a bunch of Belaruses. That’s what they want Ukraine to become, and other places like that. And and then Iran wants to be, they want to export the Islamic Revolution throughout the Middle East, and they already have proxies operating inside of Lebanon, Syria and Iraq. They want to threaten Jordan, Bahrain, and ultimately make Israel an unlivable place and have regional dominance in that way. And then you’ve got North Korea, which is increasingly becoming aggressive in- in the way it’s responding to South Korea in both rhetoric and actions. So all these are interrelated. It’s a challenge to the world order of and it’s led this loose coalition of countries who and sometimes work in concert to challenge not just America, but our alliances.
SEN. WARNER: And I think what Marco just said is, these authoritarian regimes are more closely aligned than they were even five years ago.
MARGARET BRENNAN: On the immediate issue of the Middle East, Ramadan begins this Sunday, there’s concerns that because of a high degree of tension in the region, a spark could really lead to an explosion. Through the U.S. national security lens, how concerned are you about the rising risk to U.S. interests in the Middle East because of the close alliance with Israel’s war in Gaza?
SEN. RUBIO: Well, I think the risk is it’s pre existing, obviously, now we have active shooting going on and people back and forth that always leads to mis- miscalculation risks, and in some cases, hostility like we’ve seen already from the Houthis out of Yemen. The goal, I think it’s a mistake to view October 7, simply through the lens of the Palestinian Israeli question. I think the reason why Hamas was armed, equipped and felt the confidence is this broader narrative, this broader objective that Iran has to drive the US out of the region. It is why they are conducting attacks in Iraq and Syria, they want a US troop presence out of the region completely. So then–
MARGARET BRENNAN: Should it stay?
SEN. RUBIO: Huh?
MARGARET BRENNAN: Do you believe that those 2500 troops in the region should say
SEN. RUBIO: I do and the reason why I believe that is because they are not only there on the counter ISIS mission, let’s not forget that group is still existing, and it’s still a threat. But because they sit, the reason why Iran wants us out of there is that are we are stationed at key points that tie Damascus and Baghdad and all these supply routes that Iran wants to dominate, if we were gone, these proxy groups are now be at the border of Jordan, be able to threaten Jordan and ultimately threaten Israel as a result. But I am concerned I mean, whether it’s Hezbollah and up in the north of Israel, whether it’s what’s happening in Gaza, whether it’s what’s happening with Yemen, the risk of of conflict is very real. It’s a dangerous and tenuous situation. There’s no doubt about.
SEN. WARNER: But–
MARGARET BRENNAN: President Biden’s reviewing whether to keep those troops in Iraq in the same numbers.
SEN. WARNER: And I’ll be anxious to see what he says. I do think, though–
MARGARET BRENNAN: Do you think they should stay?
SEN. WARNER: I think in terms of current basis, yes. Because as long as we’ve got these Iranian backed militias, and others, promoting a level of violence, and I agree with Marco in terms of trying to push us out, but I also think, potentially out of this enormous tragedy, the tragedy of October 7, and now the humanitarian tragedy of 30,000, Palestinians killed. You gotta look at some level of optimism- Israel had already aligned with a number of the Sunni states in the region. I was recently in Saudi Arabia, I think they would like to find some level of peace, post the Gaza conflict with Israel, a stronger defense relationship with the United States. I do think we need to acknowledge the Shia driven efforts to not only push us out but also undermine the Sunni states in the region. And there could be an opportunity for a grander alliance, but that will mean the, the violence has to stop. And you know I think we both have a lot of respect for Bill Burns, the CIA director who has been doing yeoman work, trying to negotiate this hostage exchange, which would lead to at least that short term ceasefire.
MARGARET BRENNAN: President Biden wants to establish a port in Gaza to try to bring humanitarian aid in. It’s not exactly clear the cost, the U.S. military role. Do you think that is a good decision? And given what has happened, this tragic incident recently with a hundred civilians killed, some of them shot by Israeli soldiers according to the IDF because they were clamoring for food. Do you see any clear evidence of who is to blame for that violence that day?
SEN. WARNER: I don’t have the after action report. But I do think this, I mean, remember, United States has been the largest single donor to humanitarian efforts for years in the region. And I think it is important that we continue to show that. I mean, the airlift approach is more symbolic than it actually getting relief to most folks. But the idea and I’ve discussed this with some of the folks in administration, of using Cyprus as a staging point where the aid can be checked to make sure nothing else gets in, the potential then of having that aid moved from Cyprus, to a place where we can set up the equivalent of a field hospital that could help provide the particularly in North Gaza, the humanitarian relief, that is both the right thing to do. And I think the right thing to do in terms of, particularly as we go into Ramadan, hopefully lowering some of the tension, but also shows America’s concern for some of the humanitarian costs in the region.
SEN. RUBIO: I would just add one thing to this. And that is, it’s important understand why. Everybody’s in favor of helping innocent civilians who are caught in the crossfire of any conflict. I think it’s important to understand the reason why aid can’t get to them. And the principal reason why is Hamas has built this system of tunnels, it’s expensive. I mean, I don’t care if they got a great deal on the concrete, it’s expensive to build this extensive system of tunnels, millions of dollars, that’s money that could have gone to create an economy, to feed people, to build hospitals and, and serve civilians. They didn’t do it. And there’s real concern, and I think, very legitimate reason to believe that any aid that goes in there will be grabbed by Hamas used for their purposes, at the expense of the civilian population. Hamas has a track record of zero when it comes to caring about the lives of civilians or of society in general. They’re an entirely war footing. That’s all they do. And, and I think there’s just real concern that- real reason to believe that any additional aid would be taken- would go directly to Hamas will be controlled by them.
MARGARET BRENNAN: But you know, that the U.S. Ambassador David Satterfield, who’s handling that, has said, in written letters to Congress, that they have no evidence that Hamas is stealing the aid, certainly not defending Hamas at all. But saying that aid can continue to be pushed into Gaza without Hamas stealing it, the issue is the criminal groups–
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SEN. RUBIO: Well, I’ll just respond personally, I don’t know what he’s talking about. Because how does Hamas get food? Hamas does not have an economy. Hamas does- Hamas- everything Hamas gets comes from abroad, from Iranians and from what they take. I think the evidence is in place that they have existed as an organization without any means of generating revenue other than what they are able to capture from others, that’s just common sense.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Sure, but in terms of now, with the aid getting in now?
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SEN. WARNER: I- I think the- the food and water and other relief aid I think it is- you’ve got to make sure you have a distribution system. But I think I agree with Ambassador Satterfield. But let’s also step back for a moment. And I think a lot of the arms, food, other things that have supported Hamas was the fact that they have this tunnel network, which is close to 500 kilometers. I don’t think we- any of us fully expected that. And they have been able [to] secure that. The fact that we are 140 days, roughly, into this invasion, I think most of us, even in the region, thought the Israeli Defense Fund- Defense Forces would be able to take out Hamas. 140 days in, they’ve basically taken out only about 35% of the Hamas- Hamas fighters, and literally have only penetrated less than a third of the tunnel network.
And one of the things and again, as I think Marco indicated, the extensive network, we’ve had- we brought in some of our experts (unintelligible) to say that if- if this was us trying to take out this tunnel network, could we do it quicker, more efficiently? And candidly, the answer was, maybe we could be a bit faster. But when Hamas is gruesomely holding the hostages, to prevent some of the takeout of the tunnels? This is one of the lessons, this and I think the lesson of drones and in Ukraine, are two of the things in terms of military doctrine I think that we’re gonna have to learn from both of these conflicts.
MARGARET BRENNAN: But- but just to button that up. I mean, when Benjamin Netanyahu, the Prime Minister, says total victory is “within reach”, weeks away. You are not describing total victory within weeks.
SEN. WARNER: I- I have not–
MARGARET BRENNAN: You’re saying the impact’s tiny.
SEN. WARNER: Meeting with- meeting with folks in Israel, in the military community, in the intelligence community, the idea that you’re going to eliminate every Hamas fighter, I don’t think is a realistic goal.
MARGARET BRENNAN: And you agree with that?
SEN. RUBIO: Well, I think that it is possible to achieve a situation in which Hamas does not have the capability to do what they did on October 7. That doesn’t mean Hezbollah doesn’t step in and take over now as a result, that doesn’t mean that a new Hamas offshoot wouldn’t recreate it. This is an ongoing challenge. And at the end, the head of this entire snake is the Iranian regime. They are the ones that provide the weaponry and the funds. There’s no Hamas fighters starving to death. There’s no Hamas leaders starving to death. They’re all fed. They all have medical care. And they all have all the assistance they need to continue to do the things they do. What you don’t want is a Hamas that can continue to launch missiles, particularly against civilian sites inside of Israel, which is the goal here of Iran, and that is to make Israel an unlivable place, so they can drive every Jew out from the river to the sea, and- and- and dominate the region. Do I think it’s- do I think it’s possible to degrade Hamas for some period of time and deny them the capability to- to be able to do that to Israel? Yes. But ongoing, moving forward, there’ll be challenges, because some new group will pop up.
MARGARET BRENNAN: And- and it’s a U.S. national security risk, the longer this goes on, is it not?
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SEN. RUBIO: Well, all of it is–
MARGARET BRENNAN: In terms of fomenting, within the region–
SEN. RUBIO: Yeah, beyond- well, beyond that, I would say that–
MARGARET BRENNAN: –instability?
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SEN. RUBIO: –understand that one of the things that the Iranians believe is that the one impediment facing them to regional domination is the presence of the United States, in Jordan, in Syria, in Iraq, anywhere. They don’t want us in that region and they certainly don’t want Israel to exist either. And so they will continue to target us until they believe they have driven us completely out of the region. And it gives them freehand to then go after Gulf states and ultimately threaten more countries in the region, starting with Bahrain and Jordan, but I th- I don’t think that would be limited to the- just those two kingdoms.
SEN. WARNER: And most of the nation states in that region. Frankly, some of this goes back to the Sunni-Shia divide between Iran being Shia and the- the most of the Gulf state region being Sunni. They are no fans of Iran as well. I think they want our continued presence in the region as well. And again, the fact that Saudi and Israel pre-conflict, we’re talking about diplomatic relations and stronger economic ties, that is only going to come about once peace comes to the region. And frankly, there has to be a future for the Palestinian people.
MARGARET BRENNAN: I want to move to China, if we could, you identified that as the largest threat. Last year, you told me technology competition with China is the issue of our time. Just this week, out in California, a federal indictment was unsealed where a software engineer for Google was charged with transferring artificial intelligence technology to Beijing. How far ahead it- is the U.S. versus China in AI?
SEN. WARNER: Well, first of all, remember, the FBI, as of about six months ago, were still opening two counter-espionage cases a day against China. And one of the things that Senator Rubio and I have done on a bipartisan basis is try to go industry by industry in America and warn them of the potential theft of intellectual property, $500 billion a year, the fact that China is investing, you know—I’ll talk- I’ll speak to AI in a moment—but in quantum computing, in bio, a lot of our time spending on- on bioengineering activities China’s taking, they’re trying to next generation energy on small modular nukes, which is a power source, if they can sign up a country for 50 years or 100 year contracts. I think we need to compete against that. On AI, it’s a little bit- I believe, a little bit of a better story. You know, a couple years back when we thought the country that had the most data and the most compute and the most engineers might purely win, that’s not proven to be the case. The vast majority of innovation is still taking place in this country. If you look at all of the major AI companies, they’re virtually all American. I don’t underestimate China. But we have that innovative economy, that- that frankly, still benefits with us. And frankly, the Chinese regime is reluctant to allow these large language models to be used by their population, because, frankly, they might find the truth about what the regime has done all the way back to Tiananmen Square in 1989.
MARGARET BRENNAN: There are reports that China lags the U.S. by about a year. Is that consistent with what you’ve been briefed?
SEN: RUBIO: I- I don’t know how to characterize the timeframe. But I would say that’s not really the issue per se. Be- first of all, I- we’re clearly, I think, ahead, simply because they steal our stuff, we’re not interested in stealing their stuff. So there’s a reason why they want our stuff, because it’s better. I think the bigger concern is how it would be utilized and the advantages that it gives them because all of their companies and all the corporations, there’s no independent companies in China, they all must do the bidding of whatever the Chinese Communist Party tells them to do, and that’s–
SEN. WARNER: And that’s the law in China–
MARGARET BRENNAN: Right.
SEN. WARNER: –that’s the law, as of 2017–
SEN. RUBIO: –and they’re supported by government so they can underprice everyone in the marketplace. So they can reach a level of proficiency in AI and deploy it with the support of their government that allows them to basically corner the market in all kinds of key things, autonomous vehicles, additive manufacturing, you name it. And so these are real advantages. The other advantage they have which drives AI, is data, they are able to compel and or steal and collect the data of billions of people, including their own population, but also here in the United States. And that data is what feeds AI and AI models, which will allow them to do certain things good enough to not just threaten our national security, but to threaten our economic vibrancy, and to put American innovation at a tremendous disadvantage. So Huawei is a good example. It’s not AI driven. They’re not the best telecommunication company in the world. But because they are supported by the Chinese Communist Party, they are among the largest in the world. And they have dominated market after market because they offer a product that’s good enough for a low enough price and a little bribe on the side for your friends in the government.
SEN. WARNER: And let me- let me just add here, we saw, as Marco just said, you know, China on, say, autonomous vehicles. They control not only the rare earth minerals, but really where the- their control came was on the processing of these minerals. What I’m afraid of is if you add AI tools with advances in bio, you could have, finally, breakthroughs that are remarkable. Now, the real innovation, I think, many times, will stay here. But if China builds up the bio-manufacturing capability, we may innovate, but the actual products, whether they be drugs, whether they be chemical compounds, whether they be new sources of energy, they could control the manufacturing sector. It’s, again, one of the reasons why we need to put those kind of technology competition in the national security umbrella.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Well, your colleague, Ted Cruz said, “Congress doesn’t know what the hell it’s doing when it comes to regulating AI.” Is he right? You’re saying Congress has to do a lot here. He’s saying it’s not really possible.
SEN. RUBIO: Well, it’s a new area. I mean, there’s, there’s no doubt that it’s a new area that we have to make sure- there’s two things to keep in mind. The first is, I still think there’s a lot more to learn about how it’s going to be applied and where regulation can make sense. The other is, and we’ve learned this from other technologies, they develop so- they move- innovation in that space, moves much faster than the ability of Congress to legislate or regulate, and so- and even our agencies. So I don’t think he’s wrong when he says that there still isn’t a clear understanding of what it is government can do to build safeguards. And then there’s the factor that this is borderless. I mean, at the end of the day, what we may regulate the uses of AI domestically, may not apply to some other place that may decide, here we won’t have those limits. So there’s a lot to unpack here. And I still think Congress is learning, we got to do it right, that’s the key–
SEN. WARNER: And listen, I’ve spent a lot of time on AI. And I’m not sure there’s a linear relationship between me spending more time and actually getting smarter on the issue. It’s really hard. But I would point out to some of my colleagues, that idea of, “we shouldn’t put any guardrails,” is how we ended up with a social media environment now, where- I think there’s very few Americans that doesn’t think child bullying, to ability to have our elections manipulated with my social media firms and others- that putting a few guardrails in place might have made, might have made some sense. And my fear on AI, and I’m not sure we need whole new legal regimes, but let me give you a perfect example. The ability for AI tools, at speed and scale, to manipulate our public markets is unprecedented–
MARGARET BRENNAN: But we don’t have legislation on this yet.
SEN. WARNER: We may not need new laws, we have existing SEC laws. But there might be higher penalties, for example, because the speed and scale which these AI tools could be used for manipulation, I think that’s not breaking new ground. But it is saying our regulatory structure needs to try to keep up and we’re always going to be lagging innovation. But that doesn’t mean throw in the towel.
SEN. RUBIO: I would add one more thing about AI and that is something I hope we can start talking about. AI is going to disrupt white collar jobs, jobs that people went and got degrees and even borrowed money to get degrees. It’s going to disrupt white collar jobs in the way that deindustrialization and technology advances in productivity disrupted blue collar jobs. And we’ve seen the tumult that’s created in societies around the world. We need to start thinking about the economic displacement that will follow the ability of a machine to do the work that it used to take 10 people with advanced degrees to do. And that I think that applies to the media, increasingly, I think it’s going to apply- it’s already applying to Hollywood. And I think there are industries beyond that where it’s going to apply. We need to start thinking about some of the disruptions that are coming.
SEN. WARNER: And one of the things that- I know, but I just think this is- we still have a tax and accounting and reporting system that still favors investment on a piece of hardware. You buy a computer, you get a tax credit, you know, it’s viewed as an asset. We don’t do near enough to incent- investment in human capital to actually make humans stay up and stick up, because Marco is right, there is going to be much more massive disruption amongst what was traditionally viewed as knowledge-based jobs. That doesn’t mean jobs are gonna go away. But we do need to have a, I think a new tax and accounting framework on how we invest in people.
MARGARET BRENNAN: China’s ramping up its military spending. Senator Rubio, you recently voted against the national security supplemental that would have sent 5 billion to the Indo Pacific and to help Taiwan. Why do you think that money can wait?
SEN. RUBIO: Well, I don’t think it should wait. I just don’t think it should be held hostage on the issue of whether or not we’re going to deal with our border and what I think should be attention paid to the border. And this is an issue of, of disagreement among, here, people in congress–
MARGARET BRENNAN –I’m sorry, I thought Republicans were insisting that the border be linked.
SEN. RUBIO: I did. But not- but the proposal they put forward would not have secured our border, on the contrary, it would have allowed–
MARGARET BRENNAN: But you voted against the border deal that–
SEN. RUBIO: No, we never voted on the border deal.
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MARGARET BRENNAN: Well, procedurally, it never–
SEN. RUBIO: No, it was never voted on procedurally–
MARGARET BRENNAN: –moved forward.
SEN. RUBIO: –It was withdrawn. And the reason–
MARGARET BRENNAN: You did not support the bipartisan agreement–
SEN. RUBIO: Because the deal wouldn’t- the deal would not have fixed the problem. The way you fix the problem is by reversing the executive orders that President Biden put in place in his first month in office, which directly led to this crisis. For the first time in American history, we have a president that’s decided to make the exception the rule. No longer detaining people- our law is very clear, it defines who is allowed to be in our country, and it says they should be detained through removal. And we stopped doing that. We had exceptions, you know, the Dalai Lama shows up at the border, we’re gonna let him in, exception. They turned the exception into the rule. And it’s sent the message to the whole world–
MARGARET BRENNAN: You know it’s an incredibly complex issue in terms of who you can deport, and only 72 hours they can be held in federal facilities, and the complications with Venezuela–
SEN. RUBIO: No it’s not, but the law is very clear. It says they need to be detained through removal. That’s the law of the United States–
MARGARET BRENNAN: Okay.
SEN. RUBIO: How you apply it is where the differences have come–
MARGARET BRENNAN: But, I’m sorry–
SEN. RUBIO: –and it’s led to this crisis.
MARGARET BRENNAN: You are saying that the aid to Taiwan is being held hostage to the border, but you are saying the border needs to be handled first. Help me, how are you going to surge–
SEN. RUBIO: –Oh no, it’s not very complicated–
MARGARET BRENNAN: –Funds–
SEN. RUBIO: It’s very simple.
MARGARET BRENNAN: –To deal with the threat you’re saying
SEN. RUBIO: Well the–
MARGARET BRENNAN: –from China?
SEN. RUBIO: I’ll tell you what, if we would have done a bill that would have voted for the money to Taiwan and the Indo Pacific and money to Israel, I would have voted for that. But they want Ukraine in exchange for the border. And- and the same way they’re holding Israel funding hostage. They won’t do Israel funding without Ukraine and I support helping Ukraine. But I believe that our national security begins in our own country at our border where today you have thousands of people a day walking into the country, many of whom we do not know who they are, some of whom we are now seeing are members of a Venezuelan street gang called Tren de Aragua, which is spreading throughout the country. They wreaked havoc in Peru, they wreaked havoc in Venezuela before that, and now they have elements here in our own country. That has to be a priority. And insisted–
MARGARET BRENNAN: How do you get aid to deal with Taiwan, now?
SEN. RUBIO: Let’s vote for it. Let’s put up a bill of votes on Taiwan.
MARGARET BRENNAN: You’re saying it has to be a standalone–
SEN. RUBIO: No. It doesn’t have to be.
MARGARET BRENNAN: –Five billion dollar–
SEN. RUBIO: I mean, if the President tonight at the State of the Union, I know we’re taping this, and he announces that he’s going to re- put back in place the policies that allowed us to detain single adults until the removal proceedings were done. I’ll vote for that, I’ll vote for that bill.
MARGARET BRENNAN: That requires a lot of funding, you know that, you would be for–
SEN. RUBIO: It doesn’t require funding. That’s the existing law of the country.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Border Security says it needs more funding, as does ICE–
SEN. RUBIO: –Well let’s do the funding for that–
MARGARET BRENNAN: –and all the other agencies–
SEN. RUBIO: –But- but it starts with the executive order, which is what applies our laws, which he refuses to do. Because it would require him to admit that Trump was right about the border.
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MARGARET BRENNAN: So because–
SEN. RUBIO: –I am sure Mark agrees with everything I just said.
MARGARET BRENNAN: I think you’re gritting your teeth through that–
SEN. WARNER: I would simply say this- I would just say this.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yeah.
SEN. WARNER: The border is a mess.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yeah.
SEN. WARNER: There are certain things that the President can do executive order–
MARGARET BRENNAN: –The President says the border is not secure–
SEN. WARNER: –But let’s go back to what President Trump said. President Trump said, change the law so I can do more. I respectfully believe that what Senator Lankford put forward was as tough of a border deal as it could get passed in this Congress and even next Congress. Because unless there is a 80-member shift one way or the other, in either political party, I think politics is the art of the possible, I think it was a good deal. And I agree with Marco. We need to get the money to China and Taiwan, we need to get the money, both humanitarian and for Israel. But I think the issue that I’ve been is most wrapped around is if we walk away from the people of Ukraine at this point, after in the last two years, the Ukrainians, with our help and the Europeans help, at literally the cost of less than 3% of our defense budget, have eliminated 87% of the Russian pre-invasion ground forces, 63% of their tanks, 32% of armored personnel carriers. If we don’t stand by Ukraine right now, the rest of the world should never trust us again. And this notion that, and I would go back to early comment, these authoritarian nations are watching each other. If people say she is a threat, and if they don’t believe that if President Putin is successful in Ukraine, and that will then put NATO and American troops in harm’s way. She will take lessons from that. I think there was an enormous linkage. So I do hope we’re finding the way. I think most of us, the vast majority, frankly, I think 300 votes plus in the house for Ukraine, if that was put up as a standalone, but I- and I hope we get it done. We have to.
MARGARET BRENNAN: They run out of ammunition in April.
SEN. WARNER: They run out of ammunition–
MARGARET BRENNAN: President Zelenskyy–
SEN. WARNER: –Ukraine needs more soldiers. No matter how patriotic you are as a Ukrainian, the idea that you would go into the military when you get issued 20 bullets a day when you’re being outshelled 10 to one, when the Ukrainians have performed much better than any of us hoped, when we brought Sweden and Norway into NATO, and if–
MARGARET BRENNAN: –Finland.
SEN. WARNER: I’m sorry, Sweden and Finland into NATO. If we don’t stand by that commitment, then I think this will be a mistake of- as historic as some of the mistakes made in advance of World War II.
MARGARET BRENNAN: How do you respond to that?
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SEN. RUBIO: We have seven point–
MARGARET BRENNAN: –I mean you are for aid to Ukraine.
SEN. RUBIO: Sure.
MARGARET BRENNAN: –But–
SEN. RUBIO: –But we have 7.2 million- I responded very simple and that is–
MARGARET BRENNAN: –No but in the art of the possible as- as
SEN. RUBIO: –Well
MARGARET BRENNAN: –as the senator framed it–
SEN. RUBIO: The art of the possible is- if it’s not–
MARGARET BRENNAN: –In this moment.
SEN. RUBIO: We have 7.2 million people in this country that have been here over the last three years. Some of them we don’t really know who they are. New York just deployed National Guard troops to the street because of a migrant crime wave. But we have a serious problem here at home. And so I think that we have to go to Americans and say, okay, first and foremost, our priority is going to be to deal with our issues here. And all I’m asking is that be made a priority equal to–
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MARGARET BRENNAN: So if President Biden–
SEN. RUBIO: What we’re doing around the world–
MARGARET BRENNAN: –Tomorrow said, oh, I’m going to put in an emergency action to, you know–
SEN. RUBIO: –He’s already said he might.
MARGARET BRENNAN: –Essentially mimic “Remain in Mexico,” you’d say, fine, here’s 60 billion dollars for Ukraine?
SEN. RUBIO: Sure. That’s what I said. That’s what I’ve said from the very beginning. I didn’t want them to pass a law. Are there things we can do to improve our asylum process? Sure. But we don’t need that to get back to where we were in December of 2022- December of 2019-, or 2020, I apologize, when the numbers were nothing close to this. We have a migrant wave that began in mid-January of 2021. Because people calculated that if they got here, they were going to be able to stay and 85-90% of them were right.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Right.
SEN. RUBIO: It’s drawing more people to come here. That’s unsustainable.
MARGARET BRENNAN: I think most Americans in fact, polling backs us up, believe that there is an issue that needs to be dealt with in the border. But you are linking them right now. You are.
SEN. RUBIO: No different than the people that are linking Israel aid to Ukraine. Because they won’t vote for a standalone Israel bill. They want unless we do Ukraine, and I’m saying I won’t do Ukraine, unless we secure America’s border.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Okay, so you are linking them?
SEN. RUBIO: Just like they are with Israel.
MARGARET BRENNAN: You, I want to ask you specifically. You, Senator, helped to spearhead an effort with Senator Kaine on a bipartisan basis to prevent any president from unilaterally withdrawing from NATO.
SEN. RUBIO: Yes.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Did you write that with Donald Trump in mind, because he’s the only president that I can recall who has ever threatened–
CROSSTALK
SEN. RUBIO: No, I wrote it–
MARGARET BRENNAN: –to withdraw from NATO.
SEN. RUBIO: I wrote it, I can’t speak for Senator Kaine. I wrote it with the belief that it’s an important alliance. If NATO didn’t exist, we would have to create it. It’s one of our strategic strengths that we have in the world, because China doesn’t have these alliances, for example, and neither do the Russians for that matter, or the Iranians for that matter. But I believe Congress needs to play a role in deciding whether we’re going to remove ourselves from that. That said, I will tell you that despite what people may say is rhetoric because I acknowledged that Donald Trump does not talk like a member of the Council on Foreign Relations on these issues. He actually increased troop levels in Poland and I saw them. I was there when that happened.
MARGARET BRENNAN: He was trying to draw down from Germany and virtually Poland, President Biden, reverse that.
SEN. RUBIO: And so the point being is that I don’t believe Donald Trump will remove us from NATO. I do think he is going to do, admittedly in an unorthodox way, what virtually every American president has done since the onset of NATO, and that is to demand that some NATO countries do more. And it’s interesting–
CROSSTALK
SEN. RUBIO: What’s that?
MARGARET BRENNAN: I said, Vladimir Putin has been very effective in that argument to date.
SEN. RUBIO: Which argument?
MARGARET BRENNAN: Ramping up. Spending by NATO members, they have all increased since the invasion of Ukraine. The White House, I just want to make sure I get to this, the White House declassified information about this anti-satellite technology that your colleague in the House, Mike Turner, raised alarms about. Are we sleepwalking into a crisis?
SEN. WARNER: We- we have been monitoring this for years. The idea of a nuclear weapon in space, which would go against all previous treaties, could that have enormously destructive effects? Absolutely. Matter of fact, you know, were Russia to detonate a nuclear weapon in space, it doesn’t discriminate between American satellites and Russian satellites, or for that matter, Chinese satellites. It would literally take out thousands of satellites, it could potentially take out GPS systems, if not at LEO, but at MEO, the Medium Earth Orbit. One of the things I think the administration is trying to do is also bring that pressure from countries that have worked with Russia, like China, and unfortunately, to a lesser extent, India to say, you know, you need to pull back, but we are monitoring this. I think- I’m disappointed the way it was- the information was released. And we just had a brief on it again last week.
SEN. RUBIO: Yeah. It’s not a new issue. It’s one people have been tracking. I don’t know what’s been declassified, I’m not going to speak to it in detail. All I’m gonna say is that when you talk about things- this is not about keeping secrets, but when you talk about things, you make it harder to learn more things about it because those who you are trying to learn from will figure out pretty quickly that you’re onto something. I think this is a significant and serious threat. It’s not the Cuban Missile Crisis, but it’s a big deal. And I think there’s work being done to address it. So it’s not some thing that came out of left field and people weren’t monitoring it, but I agree I don’t like the way it was handled. I think it’s- I think it’s in some way set us back a little bit, but–
MARGARET BRENNAN: The disclosure?
SEN. RUBIO: That’s about all I’ll say. Yeah.
MARGARET BRENNAN: I’m being told we are out of time. I did want to get you both on TikTok, if I could.
SEN. RUBIO: I’m against it.
MARGARET BRENNAN: I know, you’re consistent in that.
SEN. WARNER: We- we have different–
MARGARET BRENNAN: But, the Biden campaign joined TikTok, Senator Warner.
SEN. WARNER: And- and I said- and I said that sends a pretty darn mixed message. Because the Biden administration supported my earlier bipartisan legislation that we- would lead to a path of potentially banning TikTok. Because I believe that TikTok, both controlled by the Chinese Communist Party, both collects data. And as a news source, literally, half of young people in America get a lot of their news, all from TikTok.
MARGARET BRENNAN: A hundred and seventy million Americans are on it.
SEN. WARNER: And the idea- if you don’t think the Chinese Communist Party can twist that algorithm to make it the news that they see reflective of their views, then I don’t think you appreciate the nature of the threat. And we were joking would- would the United States ever allow China to buy CBS? I don’t think they would. And we- we might have slightly different ways on how we go at this, but we think this is a national security issue.
SEN. RUBIO: Look, here’s what- I’m going to try to explain it very quickly. The danger in TikTok is not that somebody goes on that video and you know puts something up that looks stupid or silly. Okay, the- here’s the challenge. The reason why TikTok is so attractive, its value is it has an algorithm, a recommender engine, which is one of the best in the world. That is owned by ByteDance. Under Chinese law, ByteDance must own it. And the only way that that recommender engine works is if they have access to the data. So it doesn’t matter who you sell TikTok to, where they’re headquartered, doesn’t even matter where they stored the data. The- as long as ByteDance engineers in China have access to the algorithm- have access to that data- control the algorithm, they have to have access to American data to make it work. And that’s what we need to confront. That’s the reality here.
MARGARET BRENNAN: You like this House bill?
SEN. WARNER: Listen, I think there’s- I think there’s a lot of creativity on TikTok. And I think if they had to disgorge as long as the algorithm moved, if this was a Brazilian company or French company or Canadian company, it wouldn’t cause me near the consternation.
SEN. RUBIO: I don’t know about the House- I haven’t read it in detail yet. In fact, even as we speak, they’re in committee. So it might be changed. It’s not an easy thing to resolve, but ultimately, what we have to focus on is who owns the algorithm, because whoever owns the algorithm will have- will have access to the data, no matter who the name on the door is, that algorithm is what- is what we need to go after because if you can’t- it doesn’t work without the data–
(CROSSTALK)
SEN. WARNER: And manipulating that algorithm can mean what kind of information you’re going to see. And if you don’t think that could be used as a- the most powerful propaganda tool ever, then I don’t think you appreciate the–
MARGARET BRENNAN: In an election year.
SEN. WARNER: In an election year, then you don’t get this threat.
MARGARET BRENNAN: All right. I have so much more to ask you. But I’m told–
If I can. You Senator Warner said last month that we are less prepared for foreign interference in 2024 than we were in 2020. What exactly are you concerned about?
SEN. WARNER: Well we have nation states, China, Iran, Russia, who know that interfering in our elections is both effective and cheap. We have a lot more Americans who have, for a variety of reasons, less trust in any of our institutions, including our voting system. We have a court case that was in the Fifth Circuit that had restricted the voluntary communication between social media and the FBI or CISA, and you have that cauldron of change going on. And then you throw in artificial intelligence tools that can bring deepfakes or voices or other manipulation at a speed and scale that’s unprecedented. And we’re gonna- we have dealt with this at a classified level, we’re going to have public hearings on this, we need to make sure the American public is educated and at least aware and thinks- thinks before they believe everything they see. The tech companies have said they’ll put watermarking on altered material, but we need to hold their feet to the fire on that.
SEN. RUBIO: It’s the area of malign influence, right? And it’s not very expensive to basically figure out what are the issues that already divide Americans so let’s amplify messages that put them at each other’s throat, that makes their politics even more conflictive, we already do a pretty good job of it on our own, help us do that. And that doesn’t just deal with elections. We’re beyond just election interference with malign influence, it’s now an effort to influence our policy debates, to divide us year-round on a regular basis. And it’s not that expensive to do. So Russia does it and they’ve done it for a long time. The Chinese want to get into this business, the Iranians and others will join them because- not just here we’ve already seen examples of it in other democratic nations. It’s a growing risk. And I think one of the first things you have to do is talk about it so people understand what it is we’re trying to describe. It’s not hacking ballot boxes. It’s hacking the minds and our political debate in this country by exacerbating pre- existing tensions to the point of boiling over.
MARGARET BRENNAN: And it’s not clear how people are supposed to protect themselves against what you just described.
SEN. RUBIO: Well it begins with awareness and the understanding that sometimes these messages that are being driven or some of these things that people are putting up online are not real or they are a video of something that happened halfway around the world 10 years ago, not down the street one month ago, but they’re things that are designed to get people angry. And you know, the algorithms feed this, because people love content that shows something outrageous, and more people will view it. So it’s easy to push this. And before you know it, people are out there voting and at each other’s throat over something that may not even be real.
MARGARET BRENNAN: This is the biggest risk for election night.
SEN. WARNER: It’s a huge risk. Now, we got a job to do. And I hope others will advance this as well. Twenty tech companies said in an agreement in Munich that they would try to put watermarking and that would indicate if content has been altered, or- or deepfake.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Is that sufficient?
SEN. WARNER: And they- they’ve said they will take it down. But it’s all voluntary. So we need to keep the pressure on. And frankly, I think the administration needs to lean in more. And I think we need to do a better job. I think people were potentially more aware, even four years ago under President Trump, do a better job of educating that with these new tools like deepfakes, you know, don’t believe everything you see and hear.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Sorry. Just to follow up on that. You mean, you need the Biden administration officials out there more, specifically identifying what’s true and what’s not.
SEN. WARNER: I think we all need to be out there. I think we need all to be out there. There has been a hesitancy after this Fifth Circuit case, to even have voluntary communications. I remember in the aftermath of 2016, when Mark Zuckerberg at Facebook said, Gosh, if there are bad guys operating on our platform, foreign influence, tell us. We had a good working relation- even under President Trump, where there was a lot of information being shared, because of this case, there’s not been as much sharing and I think, frankly, the- there was an exemption given. I think the Biden administration lawyers need to be a little more forward-leaning on letting these communications, voluntary take place.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Ok. Do you want the last word on that?
SEN. RUBIO: Well I would just- No I think this is a- it’s a complicated area, because it’s possible that someone is out there saying something that they personally believe and have a First Amendment right to express, but it’s being amplified by a foreign power. And so I think that’s the difficult balancing act here. Because a lot of people would say look my views on this happen to align with what some country around the world thinks, not because they told me, but because it’s what I honestly believe as an American. The malign influence is when the foreign power says we are going to do everything in our power to drive these messages on both sides by the way to get them to fight with each other. That’s the effort that we have to have more insight on and find a way to communicate better so that some of these people that are out there expressing these views, at least understand that their message is being amplified by a foreign adversary, even though they choose to continue to believe the way they do, but it’s complicated. I mean, it’s- and this is the reason why adversaries get involved in the business of doing this because they know how hard it is to stop.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Gentlemen, thank you for being generous with your time. Thank you.
[END TRANSCRIPT]
Rubio likes the money.
Yep – like SO many others before him, he was promising in the beginning but flipped faster than a fish outta water once he got to DC and saw the piles of cash available to him for just shutting up and going along!
Rubio is also the one that got Senator Tim Scott all swampy when he came over from the House. Scott had a lot of upside until he started hanging out with Rubio.
True! As Sundance has pointed out, the Senate really is Ground Zero of the swamp!
Exactly what I was thinking while reading this.
yep
He also likes HIS skeletons being kept in that closet.
Rubio doesn’t dance for money anymore–those days are over! Wait, maybe he still does “dance “for money?
Made me laugh …..i try to laugh as much as I can.
Although, it isn’t near enough….I accept and appreciate it !!
Rubio likes the money and Warner likes to leak.
The Frick and Frack of the Uni-Party.
Preferably laundered and squeaky clean via Ukraine.
Rubio knew all along that the Russian Collusion Dossier Hoax was a Democrat orchestrated hoax.
Rubio let Schiff, Schumer, Mueller and Weissman along with the 17 Angry Democrats from Brooklyn try to frame President Trump for a crime that never even happened!
… because Rubio has small hands!
Scum………………both of them.
Wait until you see Adam Shiff and John Brennan. Makes these two look like simpletons.
Incestuous – the whole lot of them.
All three of them….. don’t forget Mlle Brennan.
“I think”
“I believe”
….”WE
need to make sure
the American public
is educated
and at least aware and thinks
– thinks before they believe everything they see“
.
I think = using my intelligence (at whatever level it is)
I believe = using my emotions (at whatever rationality is present)
I know = using THE FACTS (to determine reality as it exists)
Very telling that these two stooges evade the latter . . .
Missing:
-it feeeels like
-It seeeems like
Rubio is one of those that don’t need to be blackmailed. He does it because he likes it.
But he is. He’s got ‘short eyes’; he goes for the kiddies,..betcha.
Bubble baths in gay clubs.
.
He’s been compromised since the days he was Jeb’s stepnfetchit.
.
It’s in his Cuban genes and DNA!
Warner is a traitorous criminal. He should be put in front of a firing squad.
Too formal, takes too much time.
There are simply way too many, …up against the nearest wall, or have em kneel down, and put one in the back of the head and move on to the next.
too soon,…?
Oh let me imagine the ways…👀
I’m thinking late Nov is the best time for a party.
If you sell lottery tickets to be on the firing party could raise a lot of $$$
Or from a 1,000 yards?
Whisper the name Nicolae Ceaușescu in his ear and see what his response is.
Yeah!
All I read was lies, more lies, obfuscation, distortions, fear, spend more money on every other country but ours and other countries interfered in our election.
But I thought the election was safe and not rigged.
So, if it was interfered with by other countries in favor of Biden per their admission, wouldn’t that mean they are admitting Biden is controlled by other countries?
These 2 stupid PsOS just admitted that Biden is compromised and a traitor and don’t even realize it.
Unbelievable!
Warner: “Listen…”
Rubio: “Look…”
Dear Margaret interrupting as usual.
I spit on them all three…
But in a totally ladylike way 😎
As for “wokeism” ( hateful and hated word), a major chip maker was all set to set up shop in the US.
Upon reading the small print which would have required them to implement DIE (not misspelled) and to hire based on race and not meritocracy, they have decided that discretion…and $$$$$…is the better part of valour…
And have sent their regrets.
They can see the forest from where they are.
Apologies…on merit.
Not “meritocracy”.
(I’m blaming that one on losing an hour’s sleep plus last night. That’s my excuse and I am sticking to it.
I can see the adjustment to DST may be quite difficult if this is how I begin…)
This just needs to be changed to “Spits in southern.” 🤣
LOLOL!!!! I thought about putting that in, Jeanine 😂😂😂
But then I thought the vision of me doing that conveyed more exactly how I feel.
Thank you 😁👍🏻
Feeling = feeding
Rubio, Warner, and their fellow travelers…
They may think of themselves as big fish, I don’t know but could make a pretty good guess.
That in fact they are minnows in very big ocean makes their insufferable pretensions ridiculous.
And nauseating.
Oh yes.
We see all too clearly.
Thank you.
Still smiling at the Codel (Congressional Delegation) that went to Hungary, expecting an immediate sit down with Orban, without pre-arrangement, and he stiffed em, lol.
From ear to ear, dutch 👍🏻
Almost as good as when Nanzi got stuck in a bus, cause somebody took away her airplane, lol.
It’s a toss up. But Orban essentially telling the DC entourage to get stuffed wins by a nose for me 👍🏻
I really like him and what’s he’s done for Hungary…and to Soros.
Yeah, just imagine they loading up on a plane, flying all the way over, being chaufered to his official building,…only to be told “Sorry, you don’t have an appointment, and Orban is busy running the country. GO HOME!”
Hubris, dutch.
It’s always a killer.
Orban visited PJT at Mar a Lago recently, not FJB
I didn’t see the report at the Daily Mail, but I believe he presented Malaria with a HUGE bouquet of gorgeous flowers when she joined them. He is such a gentleman, and great FoT (Friend of Trump).
The Mail being the Mail, I read in a comment, said “Melanie followed dutifully behind her husband.”
Oh pleeeeeeease…..
Melania!!!!!!!!!
Autocorrect!!! Arrrrgh!!!
Putin letting Kerry hang out at the airport for a few hours before telling him no-go on the meeting.
Smiling even more broadly!!
Never forget that she had about 80 of her very extended family members on that flight – pretty much her entire biological kin, all headed out if the country.
Within a very short time frame of when those black hawks cane down Wiltshire Boulevard, troops busted in to a cultural center, and then people in hazmat suits were videotaped leaving the building carrying coolers.
President Trump Thursday night Truth:
What happened to Nancy?
He didn’t bother with the RIP.
He wants them to think about at night, while they aren’t sleeping well.
Remember that period of time when she had clown eyebrows?😉
🤡
She was probably looking for refuge.
She got back at him by ripping up his SOTU speech, child that she is.
Making certain first the cameras were on her…I watched her eyes.
LIGHTS! CAMERA!! ACTION!!!
Betsy,
I used the same comparison –
little fish in a big pond before
reading your post!
Guess we are thinking
along the same line…
👍😉😉
Oh, I’d say so, gypsy 👍🏻
Well said sir.
And we all…every one of us…have to sit down to the banquet of consequences the Keynesians brewed up and choke down each disgusting spoonful.
An incurable pox on all their houses.
On point as usual Bet, your hitting one of the main roots. Ty
Wish it weren’t so, my friend. As seniors we suffered 15 years of financial repression with 0% interest rates on our savings, our seed corn so to speak..
Savings…
You know, that quaint idea that prudence would provide a reasonable…not exorbitant… rate of return, instead of not having to eat into it thus diminishing what we had saved over the years. And at our age unwilling to run the risk of losing it all in the gambling houses of Wall Street.
Honest money has been destroyed with screwball, ignorant, economically fanciful Keynesian theories. At least for those like us for whom the idea of morally responsible financial planning now seems to be passé.
Add inflation?
Well, you know…
I am now starting to have a reaction, any time I hear or read “humanitarian”; as those mis-using it, are committing the most inhumane, unspeakable horrors,…
Leftists/Progressives (another word which now means the complete opposite of its original meaning) bastardize/hijack the language for their ideological purposes.
I imagine were we to sit down and draw up a list of such words, it would run to Volumes I and maybe even II.
Newest addition?
“Newcomers”
Yes. And these euphemisms (is that a correct description?) get adopted into accepted everyday language immediately. How does that happen?
Repetition, repetition, repetition by the powers that be and their enemedia sidekicks. Over and over ad infinitum.
Lazy, uncritical thinking by those who hear it, and it slides into the lexicon.
Think parrots repeating what they’ve heard…
Or consider the words of Goebbels….
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep on repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such a time as the State can shield people from the political, economic, and/or military consequences of the lie.
It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
Sound about right?
I’ll bet this quote is framed and hung in every single office of the Deep State, even unto every lavatory therein.
Maybe that’s why the corn in my U.S. brand corn flakes is labeled ‘product of germany’.
I totally agree!
We are now becoming a
little fish in a big pond.
We threw our weight around
where it wasn’t wanted or
needed.
Both economically and
militarily.
We are the Drunken
Sailors….the day after going
to shore.
As Rush labeled it… “Deface the Nation”.
Two deep staters projecting their typical rehearsed bs. That has
to be presented as a humanitarian issue and not for what it actually is. Need more money to support never ending conflicts.
I thought that white males were the biggest threat to America? How did we get bumped out of first place?
I guess it depends on who wants funding for what, so maybe next week we’ll be on top again.
Well, those two are white males and quite a threat. Biden and Blinken are an even bigger threat and also white males.
But to break the pattern, Nuland was an even bigger threat but not male though she is white. And now she is out of the picture.
They’ve been replaced by white Christian Nationalists.
The great replacement leaves nothing untouched.
No discrimination in
Stupid.
🤷♀️💁🤷♀️
Stupid is just stupid..
comes in all ages, colors
and sexes😆
And all three…
Rubio,Warner and Margaret
are proof of that!
I have a Pavlovian reaction; Whenever I hear, read or think “Bi-Partisan” my sphincter involuntarily spasms, and my hands start scrambling for the vaseline.
The media define Bi-Partisan as Republicans doing what the Democrats want.
And they define Partisan as anybody doing what the Republicans want.
Doing what Democrats want can never be Partisan, even if it is only Democrats doing it.
And doing what Republicans want can never be Bi-Partisan even when Democrats join in.
From the moment the CIA was created, this was all inevitable.
TRUMAN STATED IT DEC 22 1963 ( LOOK for The UN-EDITED VERSION )
https://archive.org/details/LimitCIARoleToIntelligenceByHarrySTruman/page/n1/mode/1up
It is interesting that Chuck Schumer is in charge of the Senate. He can separate the Taiwan, Israel and Border Bills at any time he wants. He is well aware they can’t be passed on their own. Margaret can’t seem to know that.
I spoke with Congressman James Comer yesterday and wrote “The Last Refuge, The Conservative Treehouse” on the back of my business card. He didn’t seem to know about us. I highly recommended he look here for more information. Congressman Andy Barr was also there.
Rest assured, those on Capital Hill very studiously DON’T know about the Conservative Treehouse, and despite any effort on our part, they will steadfastly continue to not know.
I know for a fact, all 535 congressmans offices have recieved a copy of Sundances article, highlighting Regitigers explanation of J6.
The silo’ing Sundance writes about is INTENTIONAL, think Sgt. Shultz,…”I see NOTHIIING, I know NOTHIIIING!”
BINGO!! In the brilliant words of William Wilberforce, to the English Parliament when he told them explicitly about the horrors of the slave trade, “You may choose to look the other way but you can never say again that you did not know.”
Every Congresscritter out there KNOWS the truth but in order to prop up their slavemasters, they MUST continue to pretend that everything is just fine and there is nothing and no one behind the curtain, pulling their strings!
There is a lot they don’t want to know about. They don’t want to know about the gateway pundit either and it has over 7 times the traffic.
Just as the U.S. under the Trump admin. became energy independent, and was on the verge of being energy dominant, MAGA MEDIA has surpassed the MSM/Big Tech, and is now DOMINANT, and having lost credibility, THEY have no realistic chance of a reversal at this point.
Believe it or not, even CNN’s web site has 40 times the traffic as does CTH.
https://www.semrush.com/website/theconservativetreehouse.com/overview/
https://www.semrush.com/website/cnn.com/overview/
There are other traffic measuring sites/programs available on the internet, but they all show pretty much the same thing.
Yeah, it’s embarrassing to see people here post things that any 10 year old would know is a falsehood.
Lat election, it was “Red Wave, Red Wave” and before that it was “The Walk Away Movement”.
One of the latest is how millions of blacks are switching parties to support Trump.
Yeah sure.
I remember back in 2020, a number of polls had Donald Trump wining over 20% of the Black vote, even 30% some. Hannity talked about them.
Given all the Democrats cheating, we will never know for sure, but I doubt that happened.
When it got right down to voting, many Blacks could just not break the last of their chains and voted Biden.
It is not possible to objectively “compare” viewership, between MSM and Internet sites, for a variety of reasons.
Do you include CNN viewership, which is playing in every airport, whether anyone is watching or not?
How about nielsen ratings, based in part on people leaving the TV on all day, so their dogs won’t bark out of boredom?
Its plainly apples and oranges,…however REVENUE can be objectively measured, and influence can be logically measured.
In 2022, Big Techand MSM each lost $1 Billion.
And both have had waves of lay-offs.
As for influence, the MSM have consistently been pumping the anti-Trump narrative, and MAGA Media have been countering.
BY polls, by primary and caucus results, by donations its abundantly clear which narrative is resonating, and which is collapsing.
As for Red wave, I publically “ate crow” and conceeded I got snookered on that one.
As for “walk away” its real, and those were genuine you tube videos they erased, and blacks AND HISPANICS ARE switching; WE don’t need ALL or anything like it.
But any Dem running for National office, needs at least 90%, and Joe ain’t got it.
“It is not possible to objectively “compare” viewership, between MSM and Internet sites, for a variety of reasons. Do you include CNN viewership, which is playing in every airport, whether anyone is watching or not?”
Dutchman, a web site traffic program, such as Semrush, is just of internist web site traffic. It does not include TV at airports or anywhere else. And like it or not, I don’t either, CNN’s internet site alone has 40 times the traffic of CTH. It even has 5 or 6 times the traffic of Gateway Pundit.
Look for yourself. If you don’t like Semrush, try another web site traffic counter. There are a lot of them. We don’t want to be pretending.
https://www.semrush.com/website/theconservativetreehouse.com/overview/
https://www.semrush.com/website/thegatewaypundit.com/overview/
https://www.semrush.com/website/cnn.com/overview/
I know you’re smarter than the rest of us, but do me huge favor of showing me the last time so many people voted against their economic interest.
Oops, that doesn’t fit your supporting your buddy the stats guy.
this needs context.
unique hits
engagement
content
cnn *like most major media orgs* are linked daily to literally tens of thousands of websites, social media, and news aggregators. this draws simple click throughs that don’t actually mean a unique hit..often it’s only a click to move past the nuisance popup.
CNN users are not engaged. There is not a large comment base…in most cases, it just does not exist at all. It’s drive thru traffic…no diners
CNN produces a very large QUANTITY of content, about 70 percent to 90 percent is misinformation or so severely lacking in facts or omits them and replaces them with preferred narrative building misinformation that you really can’t consider most of it as authentic. They spend enormous amounts of resources and money “tuning” their articles for one simple purpose: to drive clicks and thus drive and revenue. The content is literally designed to collect revenue…that CNN has chosen to purpose this goal on political news isn’t special…it’s ethically wrong, but then so are most all other media orgs. they simply do not care to be authentic. it’s not a goal or a priority. the illusion of authenticity is the trick and the mandate…to connive.
I think of CTH as grass fed buffalo. real beef..
I think of CNN as impossible burger…reads and tastes like bull shit.
it IS most unfortunate that we have a large segment of the population who find it entertaining and enjoyable to watch cable news. It’s probably the single worst thing this society has become addicted to.
doesn’t matter. No revolution required the majority porch sitters. All meaningful paradigm shifts were the action of the few, the bold, and the righteous.
CNN can suck it.
God Bless America
Shhhhh. Dont tell Mr Stats that CNN covers 4 jillion topics. That would out him a bit.
“……..CNN’s web site has 40 times the traffic……”
Does that number include all of those unwatched and ignored TV screens that populate most every airport terminal, and other places the public gathers?
No. An internet web site traffic counter does not count TV screens. It counts internet web site traffic.
If Rush Limbaugh was still with us, a web site traffic counter would count traffic to his web site, not to his Radio Program. Other things would count that.
They definitely want to know, but retaining the ruse of being ignorant is more important to them.
I think you meant James Gomer!
The Democrats would have had President Trump impeached 12 times by now, indicted him, his wife, son and two dogs for 96 crimes that never happened, taken away his New York real estate business and fined him $600 Million dollars for paying back every well secured loan he ever took!
Oh, wait…
Good for you giving
him the information
about the Treehouse!
👍👍👍👍👏👏👏
You did good! Now it
will be up to him to
take the next step.
🙏🙏🙏
Three robots.
Somebody pull their plugs!
Three abhorrent people on one screen. Can’t watch…
Are the Foam parties how the IC controls little Marco?
I thought they were cheese pizza parties?
Ahh I see what you did there dutch. LOL
Probably both.
Pizza and pasta pool side.
A lot of former Hollywood child stars have been pointing that out.
James Burnham- Liberal Guilt
Note: In the video Burnham goes into the Angola War and the Globalists drive to rid the African continent of the Christians (for an eventual China takeover). It’s quite a good video. Highly recommended to my friends here. Burnham knows their methodology since he was once of them.
“Burnham knows their methodology since he was once of them.”
No more sober a man than a reformed alcoholic. Or, to put it another way; he does know whereof he speaks.
I could not read thru that horse manure 🤔🙄
Well, I couldn’t watch the video, but DID scim read thru it, real fast and only using one eye…:-)
I did read it….
A lot of manure in
that interview.
Only made me want
to grab a pitchfork
and clean out the stall…
😆
RINO Rubio’s day will come, for playing both sides of the coin, for his personal gains. He has bowed to the Devil for quite some time now.
Little Marco . . . just another democrat in drag poising as a conservative, sad.
Unipartisan.
Good one, I bet Wordman is wishing he hadcome up with that one!
Hope you don’t mind if I blatantly STEAL that one, and do my damndest to popularise it?
Can’t watch
“…everything Warner and Rubio say about activity outside the Western sphere becomes transparently motivated. Most of their review is complete BS, and akin to trying to obfuscate the reality of the world ‘out there.’ WATCH:”
Based upon that truth, I’d rather spend my time listening to this pet shop owner:
Rubio is a guilty SOB. Maybe not to the degree of Warner, but guilty nonetheless. Both of these men are criminals. Why Florida continues to vote in Rubio, I don’t know. Warner is of a Blue state so we know why he continues. My wish is that both of these men are on a PDJT DoJ list of folks to be indicted.
Sorry, knowing what they’ve both been party to I just can’t listen to or read a dam thing they say.
Decepticon 101:
https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE68E55P/
Tea Party Republican has big lead in FloridaReuters
September 15, 20104:28 PM EDTUpdated 13 years ago
By Steve Holland
WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Republican candidate Marco Rubio has opened a clear lead in a Florida Senate race, becoming the latest Tea Party favorite to benefit from voter anger at Washington, a Reuters/Ipsos poll found on Wednesday.
Also Decepticon 101:
Kavanaugh phony conservative justice:
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/kavanaugh-latest-confirmation-ahead-senate-vote-saturday/story?id=58316458/
Coney Barrett phony conservative justice:
https://www.newsweek.com/handmaids-tale-cloaks-protest-amy-coney-barrett-supreme-court-nomination-1542118
Amy Coney Barret and Bill Barr’s reward for betrayal:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/apr/19/amy-coney-barrett-william-barr-book-deals
Too many Decepticon’s to list. Praying Trump’s inner circle ferrets them out if/when he gets another term.
First, they had the Republican party, as controlled opposition, then they developed a second layer, the “Reagan Republicans”,…and as that was exposed, they stole the “Tea Party Republicans” label, then the Freedom Caucus, and now they are trying to say they are MAGA,…but it ain’t working.
For the most part, because Unipartisans tounges will cleave to the roof of their mouth, and their back muscles will spasm so hard they break their own necks before they will say “The 2020 election was STOLEN!”
Speaking of Con artists, liars and scum:
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Former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said Friday that if former President Donald Trump is reelected, he would be willing to join the Trump administration if asked.
General Mike Flynn on X: “So you can undermine him again? You did zip as Director of the CIA to expose the BS russiagate and you had every chance and ability to do it and you did even less fixing anything at the state department. And have you stated even once anything about the rigged election of 2020?…” / X (twitter.com)
Dear Former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo,
Say his name! Say his name! Say his name!
His name is Julian Assange.
God bless General Flynn.
Remember when Chris Christie took down Rubio? Not a Christie fan, but that take down was magisterial.
Sorry, this whole interview was missing only one item, and that is a laugh track. I gave up on the Marco de Sade many years ago. Warner, there was nothing to give up on, as he was nothing more than an abandoned baby picked up along the political route and put to work selling his services to whoever had a buck or a favor to offer in exchange. The interviewer is a piece of the same cloth, so they welcomed the opportunity to sell themselves for the interview time and name exposure. What a racket.
“missing only one item, and that is a laugh track. ” Thats good, cool points for pithy wit.
When my eyes see SSCI my mind sees “scuzzy” and now that you have read this you will too. 😉
Not a peep about China and drugs.
Losers both!
Rubio & Warner on TV together… Really BIG Lies required to send them both out.
Crap weasels
Thanks, Sundance, for the truth.
Marco and Mark are quintessentially bi
…partisan.
They’re so cozy they finish each others’ sentences.
It’s almost like they had rehearsed the
narrativescript.I was just discussing this
during Sunday Walk in
the Park…..💁🤷♀️💁
~~~AI~~~
The blue collar workers
being replaced…
self driving truck,etc.
has not been anything
the politicians were concerned
about….🤷♀️💁🤷♀️they are always
for cheap labor….as long as it
the blue collar workers.
Now reality has smacked
them in the butt😂😂
White collar jobs—
The Creative industries like
Hollywood/actors/Make-up
artists/animators/fashion models..
Authors….paralegals…
Academics..teachers,professors!
THAT is what is now in
jeopardy of being replaced
by AI……
I have a very limited knowledge
of AI and computing…so giving
my “ignorant “ opinion…based
mainly on common sense 🤷♀️💁🤷♀️
A teacher robot would be
a lot more economical to build
than a robot which requires
more arduous activity.
US has been trying
for years to get the driverless
trucks on the road….
Meanwhile, India already
has Teacher AI.🤷♀️💁🤷♀️
Watch: Meet India’s first-ever AI teacher robot named ‘Iris’ launched in Kerala school | TOI Original – Times of India Videos. YouTube
☝️☝️☝️☝️
Kerala School Introduces Iris, India’s First Generative AI Humanoid Teacher – YouTube
☝️☝️☝️☝️
The ultimate downfall of Tech, will come from believing their own hype.
They will never make self driving cars actually work, nor will AI do what they think and believe it will..
They won’t, sucessfuly implement CBDC’s, or a Carbon tax, either.
The Shadow Side of AI Part 1: Creatives vs Big Tech
☝️☝️☝️
Great reading regarding the
effect of AI on “creatives”.
Politicians haven’t been
too concerned about AI
eliminating Blue Collar
jobs….
But the elimination of
those White Collar jobs
has got their attention….
Tik-Tok should be the
least of their worries.
🧐🧐🧐🤔🤔
Wonder if politicians could
be replaced by AI //s
“Wonder if politicians could
be replaced by AI…”
Well, Klaus (Rump)Schwab kind of alluded to that when he spoke of using AI to select leaders/government officials instead of having elections.
.
I attended an event last weekend which required vehicles to pay for parking to enter into the premises.
As we were waiting to turn into into the premises from the main street, I noticed a self-driving drive car idling on the opposite from the venue street.
I am guessing someone called for a ride from inside the venue but the self-driving car (way-mo, maybe?) could not enter to pick them up because there was no driver in the car to pay for it to enter.
Whomever was looking to utilize it was going to have to hoof it quite a ways to access it . . .
Falsus in uno; Falsus in omnibus.
The only national security threat to the American people comes from the federal government in Washington DC and that includes the FBI, DOJ, CIA and Marco Rubio!
I think the cleaving taking place is the DC/EU/NATO power and control mechanisms across the globe being cut off and isolated from We the People across the globe.
Maybe I’m completely naive, but that’s how I see it.
We see DC as clearly not serving its people. I believe other countries are all waking up and pushing back against the power and control apparatus that has been exerting too much control on them and not serving them too.
What a croc of talking 💩. They don’t even have to practice the treasonous spittle coming from the pie holes..
Makes one physically ill to watch this. To think this WAS, one nation under God, and is now under the control of satan.
Thank you for the light you shine into the darkness.
Hope the guys didn’t say anything to offend Ms. Brennan’s Muslim hubby.
.
Only if he is Shite . . .
2 stooges
It only takes one photo to change them the dark side
Rubio made it a point to say ISIS still exists …
while
Trump continues to claim the destruction of ISIS
Funny thing that. Not that any group couldn’t rise again … but Rubio SHOULD have said that although PDJT had eradicated ISIS … these groups are re-forming around the region … and hence we need a POTUS like Trump who will destroy them … much like Israel is properly destroying Hamas.
Isis is a CIA construct, so of coarse it will be reconstituted.
In other words, this interview is complete and utter garbage, and should be completely ignored.
Have you noticed the rash of military aircraft and helicopter crashes lately.
We had five Marines die last month when their helicopter went up into the worst snow storm in the Sierra’s in decades. The weather channel called it THE STORM LEGENDS ARE MADE OF!
Yet a Marine helicopter with three pilots and two enlisted men deliberately took off from Arizona and flew directly into a storm that had PREDICTED 100+MPH winds driving 10′ to 12′ of snow in the mountains!
All of these men died for nothing and I’m not sure they died in the United States?
we had warner foisted on us by northern va and ballot stuffing, believe me, nobody wanted the drunk back in
Can’t watch it… won’t waste my time. The BASIS of both swamp creatures is lies. Can’t help us get out of the “situation” we are in. Spend your time watching Benz.
Maggie B. is a facilitator of tyrants.
Basically it doesn’t matter if people are saying things that are true because Russia may amplify those truths and cause political consequences the political class doesn’t want.
Huh??
These vipers want to take US into war with Iran and China as our present war with China were not enough! Wow.