Curiouser and Curiouser…

According to several media reports AG Bill Barr is scheduled to have a meeting today with Senator Lindsey Graham for an update on the Horowitz and Durham investigations:

[…] Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.), chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, plans to meet Wednesday with Barr to talk about the report’s planned rollout, according to people familiar with the matter. (link)

Then, moments ago, this little innocuous sighting popped up amid the DC media:

Probably just a coincidence [*hmmm*], or maybe not….

According to recent reports U.S. Attorney John Durham and U.S. Attorney General Bill Barr are spending time on a narrowed focus looking carefully at CIA activity in the 2016 presidential election. One recent quote from a media-voice increasingly sympathetic to a political deep-state notes:

“One British official with knowledge of Barr’s wish list presented to London commented that “it is like nothing we have come across before, they are basically asking, in quite robust terms, for help in doing a hatchet job on their own intelligence services””. (Link)

It is interesting that quote comes from a British intelligence official, as there appears to be mounting evidence of an extensive CIA operation that likely involved U.K. intelligence services. In addition, and as a direct outcome, there is an aspect to the CIA operation that overlaps with both a U.S. and U.K. need to keep Wikileaks founder Julian Assange under tight control. In this outline we will explain where corrupt U.S. and U.K. interests merge.
To understand the risk that Julian Assange represented to CIA interests, it is important to understand just how extensive the operations of the CIA were in 2016.
It is within this network of foreign and domestic operations where FBI Agent Peter Strzok is clearly working as a bridge between the CIA and FBI operations.
By now people are familiar with the construct of CIA operations involving Joseph Mifsud, the Maltese professor now generally admitted/identified as a western intelligence operative who was tasked by the CIA (John Brennan) to run an operation against Trump campaign official George Papadopoulos in both Italy (Rome) and London. {Go Deep}
In a similar fashion the CIA tasked U.S. intelligence asset Stefan Halper to target another Trump campaign official, Carter Page. Under the auspices of being a Cambridge Professor Stefan Halper also targeted General Michael Flynn. Additionally, using assistance from a female FBI agent under the false name Azra Turk, Halper also targeted Papadopoulos.

The initial operations to target Flynn, Papadopoulos and Page were all based overseas. This seemingly makes the CIA exploitation of the assets and the targets much easier.
One of the more interesting aspects to the Durham probe is a possibility of a paper-trail created as a result of the tasking operations. We should watch closely for more evidence of a paper trail as some congressional reps have hinted toward documented evidence (transcripts, recordings, reports) that are exculpatory to the targets (Page & Papadop). HPSCI Ranking Member Devin Nunes has strongly hinted that very specific exculpatory evidence was known to the FBI and yet withheld from the FISA application used against Carter Page that also mentions George Papadopoulos. I digress…
However, there is an aspect to the domestic U.S. operation that also bears the fingerprints of the CIA; only this time due to the restrictive laws on targets inside the U.S. the CIA aspect is less prominent. This is where FBI Agent Peter Strzok working for both agencies starts to become important.
Remember, it’s clear in the text messages Strzok has a working relationship with what he called their “sister agency”, the CIA. Additionally, Brennan has admitted Strzok helped write the January 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment (ICA) which outlines the Russia narrative; and it is almost guaranteed the July 31st, 2016, “Electronic Communication” from the CIA to the FBI that originated FBI operation “Crossfire Hurricane” was co-authored from the CIA by Strzok…. and Strzok immediately used that EC to travel to London to debrief intelligence officials around Australian Ambassador to the U.K. Alexander Downer.
In short, Peter Strzok appears to be the very eager, profoundly overzealous James Bond wannabe, who acted as a bridge between the CIA and the FBI. The perfect type of FBI career agent for CIA Director John Brennan to utilize.
Fusion-GPS founder Glenn Simpson hired CIA Open Source analyst Nellie Ohr toward the end of 2015; at appropriately the same time as “FBI Contractors” were identified exploiting the NSA database and extracting information on a specific set of U.S. persons.
It was also Fusion-GPS founder Glenn Simpson who was domestically tasked with a Russian lobbyist named Natalia Veselnitskya. A little reported Russian Deputy Attorney General named Saak Albertovich Karapetyan was working double-agents for the CIA and Kremlin. Karapetyan was directing the foreign operations of Natalia Veselnitskaya, and Glenn Simpson was organizing her inside the U.S.
Glenn Simpson managed Veselnitskaya through the 2016 Trump Tower meeting with Donald Trump Jr. However, once the CIA/Fusion-GPS operation using Veselnitskaya started to unravel with public reporting… back in Russia Deputy AG Karapetyan fell out of a helicopter to his death (just before it crashed).
Simultaneously timed in late 2015 through mid 2016, there was a domestic FBI operation using a young Russian named Maria Butina tasked to run up against republican presidential candidates. According to Patrick Byrne, Butina’s handler, it was FBI agent Peter Strzok who was giving Byrne the instructions on where to send her. {Go Deep}
All of this context outlines the extent to which the CIA was openly involved in constructing a political operation that settled upon anyone in candidate Donald Trump’s orbit.
International operations directed by the CIA, and domestic operations seemingly directed by Peter Strzok operating with a foot in both agencies. [Strzok gets CIA service coin]
Recap: Mifsud tasked against Papadopoulos (CIA). Halper tasked against Flynn (CIA), Page (CIA), and Papadopoulos (CIA). Azra Turk, pretending to be Halper asst, tasked against Papadopoulos (FBI). Veselnitskaya tasked against Donald Trump Jr (CIA, Fusion-GPS). Butina tasked against Trump, and Donald Trump Jr (FBI).
Additionally, Christopher Steele was a British intelligence officer, hired by Fusion-GPS to assemble and launder fraudulent intelligence information within his dossier. And we cannot forget Oleg Deripaska, a Russian oligarch, who was recruited by Asst. FBI Director Andrew McCabe to participate in running an operation against the Trump campaign and create the impression of Russian involvement. Deripaska refused to participate.
All of this engagement directly controlled by U.S. intelligence; and all of this intended to give a specific Russia impression. This predicate is presumably what John Durham is currently reviewing.
The key point of all that background is to see how committed the CIA and FBI were to the constructed narrative of Russia interfering with the 2016 election. The CIA, FBI, and by extension the DOJ, put a hell of a lot of work into it. Intelligence community work that Durham is now unraveling.
We also know specifically that John Durham is looking at the construct of the Intelligence Community Assessment (ICA); and talking to CIA analysts who participated in the construct of the January 2017 report that bolstered the false appearance of Russian interference in the 2016 election. This is important because it ties in to the next part that involves Julian Assange and Wikileaks.
On April 11th, 2019, the Julian Assange indictment was unsealed in the EDVA. From the indictment we discover it was under seal since March 6th, 2018:

(Link to pdf)

On Tuesday April 15th more investigative material was released. Again, note the dates: Grand Jury, *December of 2017* This means FBI investigation prior to….
The FBI investigation took place prior to December 2017, it was coordinated through the Eastern District of Virginia (EDVA) where Dana Boente was U.S. Attorney at the time. The grand jury indictment was sealed from March of 2018 until after Mueller completed his investigation, April 2019.

Why the delay?
What was the DOJ waiting for?
Here’s where it gets interesting….
The FBI submission to the Grand Jury in December of 2017 was four months after congressman Dana Rohrabacher talked to Julian Assange in August of 2017: “Assange told a U.S. congressman … he can prove the leaked Democratic Party documents … did not come from Russia.”

(August 2017, The Hill Via John Solomon) Julian Assange told a U.S. congressman on Tuesday he can prove the leaked Democratic Party documents he published during last year’s election did not come from Russia and promised additional helpful information about the leaks in the near future.
Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, a California Republican who is friendly to Russia and chairs an important House subcommittee on Eurasia policy, became the first American congressman to meet with Assange during a three-hour private gathering at the Ecuadorian Embassy in London, where the WikiLeaks founder has been holed up for years.
Rohrabacher recounted his conversation with Assange to The Hill.
“Our three-hour meeting covered a wide array of issues, including the WikiLeaks exposure of the DNC [Democratic National Committee] emails during last year’s presidential election,” Rohrabacher said, “Julian emphatically stated that the Russians were not involved in the hacking or disclosure of those emails.”
Pressed for more detail on the source of the documents, Rohrabacher said he had information to share privately with President Trump. (read more)

Knowing how much effort the CIA and FBI put into the Russia collusion-conspiracy narrative, it would make sense for the FBI to take keen interest after this August 2017 meeting between Rohrabacher and Assange; and why the FBI would quickly gather specific evidence (related to Wikileaks and Bradley Manning) for a grand jury by December 2017.
Within three months of the grand jury the DOJ generated an indictment and sealed it in March 2018. The EDVA sat on the indictment while the Mueller probe was ongoing.
As soon as the Mueller probe ended, on April 11th, 2019, a planned and coordinated effort between the U.K. and U.S. was executed; Julian Assange was forcibly arrested and removed from the Ecuadorian embassy in London, and the EDVA indictment was unsealed (link).
As a person who has researched this three year fiasco; including the ridiculously false 2016 Russian hacking/interference narrative: “17 intelligence agencies”, Joint Analysis Report (JAR) needed for Obama’s anti-Russia narrative in December ’16; and then a month later the ridiculously political Intelligence Community Assessment (ICA) in January ’17; this timing against Assange is too coincidental.
It doesn’t take a deep researcher to see the aligned Deep State motive to control Julian Assange because the Mueller report was dependent on Russia cybercrimes, and that narrative is contingent on the Russia DNC hack story which Julian Assange disputes.
This is critical. The Weissmann/Mueller report contains claims that Russia hacked the DNC servers as the central element to the Russia interference narrative in the U.S. election. This claim is directly disputed by WikiLeaks and Julian Assange, as outlined during the Dana Rohrabacher interview, and by Julian Assange on-the-record statements.
The predicate for Robert Mueller’s investigation was specifically due to Russian interference in the 2016 election. The fulcrum for this Russia interference claim is the intelligence community assessment; and the only factual evidence claimed within the ICA is that Russia hacked the DNC servers; a claim only made possible by relying on forensic computer analysis from Crowdstrike, a DNC contractor.
The CIA holds a massive conflict of self-interest in upholding the Russian hacking claim. The FBI holds a massive interest in maintaining that claim. All of those foreign countries whose intelligence apparatus participated with Brennan and Strzok also have a vested self-interest in maintaining that Russia hacking and interference narrative.
Julian Assange is the only person with direct knowledge of how Wikileaks gained custody of the DNC emails; and Assange has claimed he has evidence it was not from a hack.
This Russian “hacking” claim is ultimately so important to the CIA, FBI, DOJ, ODNI and U.K intelligence apparatus…. Well, right there is the obvious motive to shut Assange down as soon intelligence officials knew the Mueller report was going to be public.
Now, if we know this, and you know this; and everything is cited and factual… well, then certainly AG Bill Barr knows this.
The $64,000 dollar question is: will they say so publicly?

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346 Responses to Curiouser and Curiouser…

  1. Matthew LeBlanc says:

    It would be a glorious day for freedom loving patriots everywhere if the dots between Seth Rich & WikiLeaks finally get connected. And to have it occur within a Durham criminal investigation might actually bring Justice to this corrupt land.

    • Joe says:

      Agree wholeheartedly!
      One of the most disheartening phenomena to the DNC-hack hoax has been the degree to which a “progressive” agenda has corrupted the parent–child relationship is how Seth Rich’s family has, spaniel-like, abetted those who murdered him because the truth of what really happened is an existential threat to the get-Trump conspiracy.
      Of course “progressive” monsters like Mr. & Mrs. Rich doubtless support abortion up to and after delivery. Their ideological mania with regard to their son’s murder is not entirely surprising.

      • mostlyogauge says:

        What proof do you have that Mr. & Mrs. Rich are “progressive” monsters?

      • Adele Virtue says:

        they have another son, IMHO I think they do not want him to turn up dead like Seth did.

      • Doppler says:

        If Seth and Aaron Rich downloaded the DNC email, sent it to WikiLeaks, hid copies away, and then Seth is murdered, wouldn’t the Rich family want to protect Aaron, above all else? Joe I think it wrong for you to blame these grieving parents, and call them names. You don’t think the Deep State Arkanciders have silenced all those who can expose them? Any and everything you’ve read about them could easily have been their price to pay to protect their surviving son.

        • WhiteBoard says:

          is Seth was dead, sure. i mean of COURSE , right???? wouldnt you if your family member died.
          so the common sense angle would be he was stabilized as NORMAL at the hospital for a gut shot – and SAVED just like Rep Scalise was (same doctor) …and was removed for safety and the family is staying quiet, as the Hillary lawyers swoop in to control the situation ( thinking Seth is dead or deported).

    • lolli says:

      ?Matthew LeBlanc
      It would be a glorious day indeed.

  2. flatlandgoober says:

    Now the critical question. Is Assange still alive and able to testify?

  3. 1riot1ranger says:

    If it wasn’t for ballot harvesting, Dana would still be a Congressman

    • Shyster says:

      True, but the blame for that falls on the Orange County, California branch of the Republican Party who though fully aware that the California Legislature had legalized ballot harvesting, didn’t make use of it in the election whatsoever causing all of the House seats in Orange County to be flipped and go red for the first time in history. It was a level of incompetence and arrogance by the GOP unparalleled in the history of the county. As a resident, I have been screaming about the sheer incompetence of the the local GOP branch since the election was stolen through through its breach of trust to the voters. What’s more, there are several large retirement communities of conservatives in the county that the GOP could have counter harvested from. I’m outraged just typing about this.

      • delighteddeplorable says:

        Exactly, Shyster. I’m also in OC and it was a giant mistake with far ranging consequences. They say they’re ready this time and are getting some churches on board for harvesting.

        • Shyster says:

          “Some churches” isn’t good enough. They need to go out to Leisure World and the other retirement communities and set up a task force to service the retirees with ballots and harvesting.

      • Attorney says:

        Yes. The GOP proper is corrupt and disgusting.

      • scrap1ron says:

        Are you sure it’s a flaw and not a feature, Shyster? Seems to me many GOPe members are “retiring early” to spend time with…family, yeah that’s the ticket. Spend more time with family.
        What, throw the House to the Democrats? That’s silly, just preposterous.

      • Leo D says:

        Hi Shyster. Assuming from your post that you are an OC resident. Am I correct to assume that there are a whole lot of non-Conservative.inc repubs in CA who are beside themselves with what is going on there? Given the redistricting, ballot harvesting, judicial activism, ballot stuffing, and all around incompetence of the CA GOP, do you think you all would be up for a bit of an unconventional way to shake up things out there? I’ve got an idea I’ve been mulling over, but it would require the attitude of “yeah, what the heck. Screw em” Take away some of the power of CA with regard to national politics. I know normally, the reaction would be, “Who wants to give up power?” But if the power is taken by the Dems, maybe screw ‘us’ aint so bad??

        • Shyster says:

          I’m listening intently….

          • Leo D says:

            In a nutshell…a coordinated boycott of the 2020 census by all Republican/conservative/patriotic minded Californians…all of those marginalized by the corruption of the Dems in your beautiful state…thru ballot stuffing, vote harvesting, judicial activism, redistricting, etc.
            While the knee jerk reaction will, “But that will reduce Federal funding to my state…why would I do that?” And…what is that funding being used for? Needle exchanges? Poop pickups? Ways to screw over good Californians?
            It would be a way to give a collective finger to Sacramento.
            I have a plan, fairly well thought out that I have been working on for almost a year. A targeted boycott of California, Illinois, New York…maybe even Tx and Fl (because they are on the verge of disaster) could shift Congressional representation to more conservative states, and reduce Electoral College votes from those states.
            What thinkest thou?

          • Leo D says:

            And I am dead serious. It would be coordinated by website, with people able to sign up so that others can see how many others are inclined to participate…the idea being that, even though this would be individual action (or inaction in this case) we can have strength in numbers…

          • Leo D says:

            Oh, and I forgot one of the main motivations…for the good of the country…
            The Dems have made it clear that one of their primary avenues to increase their control is the counting of illegals for the purposes of apportionment which will add representatives to states high in illegals AT THE EXPENSE of the rest of the states…and then removing barriers to illegals voting, which they have done (motor voter), and are continuing to do.
            …call it ‘cancel out an illegal’ campaign

            • Got243kids says:

              We need to talk. How? CA too.

              • Leo D says:

                The targeted boycotts are done by convincing people WITHIN those states to participate. Coordinated online through a dedicated website, which has been concepted and started, but am trying to raise funds to fully implement. Want to rollout by end of December. Need to figure our way to get initial publicity. Leo D is NOT social media savvy at all. No FB or twitter.
                I definitely want to find a way to connect with like minded individuals to help roll out and spread the word. I have worked out strategies, legal issues, etc.

              • Leo D says:

                Or did you mean…how to talk?
                Where do you live?

      • 1riot1ranger says:

        Lots of blame to go around. I talked about “canvassing” to a Harley Rouda volunteer and he told me the Republicans weren’t doing any

  4. BocephusRex says:

    #HisNameWasSethRich

  5. Dan says:

    hmmm… so this “meeting” really didn’t have to be so public..did it ? I mean why would a QB stare down a receiver like this…?

  6. Ludo says:

    On the evening of July 5, 2016, 1,976 megabytes of data were downloaded from the DNC’s server. The operation took 87 seconds. This yields a transfer rate of 22.7 megabytes per second. No Internet service provider, such as a hacker would have had to use in mid-2016, was capable of downloading data at this speed.
    23 MB/s is a typical transfer rate when using a USB–2 flash device (thumb drive).
    His name was Seth Rich.

    • Mike Robinson says:

      Strictly speaking, it cannot be technically disproven that “we copied to a thumb drive info that we’d already stolen.” You can’t prove what the drive was plugged into.
      However, NO REAL INVESTIGATION would accept a claim made by a company hired by the criminals. That’s the tech equivalent of hearsay … You’ve got to “habeus computerus!”

    • jrapdx says:

      Just curious. Does that 2 GB data download accord with the size of the data that Assange released or existed on his system? Assuming the quoted numbers are correct, I completely agree about the data transfer rate. Even today 23 MB/s is beyond typical internet end-user availability.

      • Justin Green says:

        It just indicates that at some point the data was copied to the local storage device of some sort.
        Not that this matters either way. It’s possible Seth had remote access privileges to the server as well.

        • jrapdx says:

          In any case Assange has the definitive info re: source of the data. Perhaps he shared that info, which the President and a few others have been apprised of. Now it only has to be used to pursue indictment of the coup criminals.

      • Dan says:

        and besides….. there’s much more drama when internet hacking is involved…..
        oh…”groovy baby”…….

    • Doppler says:

      If the data was transmitted in any form over the internet to Guccifer 2.0, the NSA will have a copy of that transmission. They just have to query the recipient or suspected senders. They did not share “high confidence” with CIA/FBI assessment.

    • JonMaxwell says:

      Please just stop you are so wrong its not even funny USB 2.0 speed is 50 Mbps it would take over 5 minuets to download a 2 GIG file USB 3.1 27 seconds USB 3.1 gen 2 13 seconds
      I can download a 2 gig file in Washington Dc to where i live in Fredericksburg in 22 seconds, my speed is 794.73 megabits/s or 99 MB/s i am on fiber it hauls butt
      if you want to know here is a link to see
      https://fpcug.org/fb-downloadcalc.php

  7. Somebody's Gramma says:

    It would be glorious if a cascade of intelligence perps are indicted.
    General Quarters!!

    • johnnyfandango says:

      Plus Lindsay Graham crackers….sure he was helping McCain spread the Steele doc. Why isn’t Graham getting testimonies….something to hide Lindsay?

  8. Ivehadit says:

    Is Julian is “white hat” custody or “black hat” custody?

    • Ivehadit says:

      is=in

      • Linus in W.PA. says:

        Unfortunately, I think Assange is in Black-hat Custody.

        • Carrie says:

          Me too. Boris Is the same Uniparty as May who preceeded him. We see him lift his mask on occasion. Farage is a better choice for Assange.

          • WhiteBoard says:

            but TRump has BORIS BY THE BALLS. trump has held off on exposing UK for the Epstein issue and the SPYING.. AMERICA FIRST.
            he did though give them the hint to not keep stalling – with the Project Veritas recent video.
            just remember that Trumps goal is ONE THING – RESTORE THE INSTITUTIONS in the way they were to SERVE the people. Obama wanted us to be TRICKED into demanding our institutions be destroyed DUE TO HIS ABUSE (CLEVER)
            he baited us in to race issues also to destroy our unity. WE took all of his crap knowing 2016 would come. we WON.
            the media is the only headache – real men are winning behind the curtain – and they will pull the curtain open soon.
            Or Dana got lost and needed to just use the restroom. 0 / o

        • Ivehadit says:

          Mw, too. But it would be stupendous if he wasn’t.

    • Guyski says:

      Good question.

  9. Whitehouse Clown says:

    My advice to Bill Barr, be very, very careful what info you share with Lindsey. I recommend including at least one tid bit of fake but plausible info to verify the leaker.

    • Nice……..very, very nice!

      • WhiteBoard says:

        Why – all leak investigations are useful. no leak goes unturned.
        the funniest part is that we know who the redacted is below – and its not gonnna work lol. this is their best cover? Awan left July 2017 – not good enough of a clean up – we want full disclosure or we want the Democrats to support the President in return for hushing it.,..
        footnote 69 Collyler Report FISA – The improper access granted to the ___ contractors was apparently in place _____ ___ and seems to have been the result of deliberate decision making. ________ Compliance Report at 92-93 ____ access to FBI systems was the subject of an interagency memorandum of understantding entered into _____ ……”no notice of this practice was given to the FISC until 2016.

    • scrap1ron says:

      I like how you think, WC.

  10. Ellen Evans says:

    Great piece – I do so appreciate the trouble this website goes to to remind readers of timelines and interconnectivities. One small caveat – it is my understanding that the FBI did not, in fact, rely on Crowdstrike’s actual analysis (bad enough if they had), nor even that firm’s full report, but only a summary of the findings contained in the report.
    It’s even more risibly shoddy than the postulate that police might accept fingerprints collected by a burgled homeowner, ostensibly taken before they cleaned and sanitized the residence.

    • RePete says:

      “…police might accept fingerprints collected by a burgled homeowner, ostensibly taken before they cleaned and sanitized the residence.”
      ^^^THIS^^^

    • Rhoda R says:

      Further, the Crowdstrike report was in draft form – the FBI never even saw the final version.

  11. JackB says:

    Yes. That’s the $64,000 question. Does Barr have the motivation and courage to reveal the sedition of the top officials in his DOJ and FBI? Many who still remain there.

    • Shyster says:

      I think you mean “balls”!

    • Fitrfly says:

      Who was Barr referring to when he said the Band is back together?

      • CM-TX says:

        Idk, but maybe it’s the the same group he warned “don’t hang together”– in an interview back in the beginning.
        He was supposedly referring to the answers/stories not adding up. But I’m fairly certain his choice of phrasing had a little more meaning ? behind it.

        • Elle says:

          haha…”don’t hang together”. That is pretty funny and depending on who he said it to gives me hope that he’s wheeling and dealing.

    • I think the question is whether he can obtain the evidence. Without evidence the enemedia paints it all as a conspiracy theory, already debunked or attempted election interference. With evidence everything changes.

  12. bullnuke says:

    Still grappling with Barr exposing the truth. That would mean exposing Rosenstein as corrupt. Perhaps he would offer him immunity to prevent his indictment.

    • joeb64@aol.com says:

      The last time Barr was with Rosenstein for a public Presser (RR was resigning), I personally hung on just ONE comment made by Barr (I’m paraphrasing):
      I would like to thank Rod for his exemplary service “since I became AG”.
      I could not help but think that was a direct reference to Rosenstein’s cooperation once Barr was appointed.
      IOW’S, I believe Rod has provided substantial evidence regarding all that has occurred and Barr may well use it to “go easy” on the arrogant little TRAITOR when the SHTF!

      • dr D says:

        I know most conservatives think Rosenstein is a black hat weasel and maybe he is, but I read somewhere, maybe here, a theory that he’s actually one of the good guys and that he’s the one who originally got Durham involved months before Barr became AG.
        This is like a crazy soap opera.

  13. Merle Marks says:

    Assange will be “Epsteined” by Christmas…

    • CM-TX says:

      They really might not want to do that… given the backlash in retaliation of data that’ll be dumped from countless concerned individuals out there–from every corner by those collecting & storing info offline for many, many years. The internet would undoubtedly be flooded with interesting things, & it wouldn’t be pretty! (Just sayin)

  14. Marygrace Powers says:

    TheLastRefuge = “Gold Standard” of investigative reporting. TY sd.

  15. SeanNY2 says:

    But if Assange actually had (and was in danger of releasing) evidence that the emails came from someone other than Russia, wouldn’t he still be able to communicate that to someone even now, for example to his lawyer? Or use it as leverage to stay out of jail?
    Your theory might explain the government’s motives and moves against Assange, but it doesn’t explain his lack of response.

    • John55 says:

      We have no way of knowing what his response has been, or if there has been a “lack” of one on his part. I’m sure he is being told that if claims the DNC was hacked by an insider, he will spend the rest of his life in jail.

    • Merle Marks says:

      it has been noted, Julian has “deadman switches” set up for info to be released from various spots to help prevent being suicided…

    • WhiteBoard says:

      Assange gave it to Robacher when he met him , cause Robacher SAID SO.
      thats the date this operation began – with sessions knowing to recuse and start a leak investigation .. NOT TO CATCH ANYONE, but instead to CONFIRM TO CONSPIRATORS (Senate Intel, DifI, Schiff, Biden, etc)… each action they did confirmed the ASSSANGE theory passed to Robacher.

    • CM-TX says:

      See here re. his current condition (not good):
      | Until yesterday I had always been quietly sceptical of those who claimed that Julian’s treatment amounted to torture … – even of Nils Melzer, the UN Special Rapporteur on Torture – and sceptical of those who suggested he may be subject to debilitating drug treatments.
      But having attended the trials in Uzbekistan of several victims of extreme torture, and having worked with survivors from Sierra Leone and elsewhere, I can tell you that yesterday changed my mind entirely and Julian exhibited exactly the symptoms of a torture victim brought blinking into the light, particularly in terms of disorientation, confusion, and the real struggle to assert free will through the fog of learned helplessness.
      I had been even more sceptical of those who claimed, as a senior member of his legal team did to me on Sunday night, that they were worried that Julian might not live to the end of the extradition process. … |
      https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2019/10/assange-in-court/

  16. JohnCasper says:

    If Heaven goes by merit rather than by favor, Julian Assange will get in and anyone from the CIA or FBI getting in will be scarce, mighty scarce.

  17. Terry says:

    Also, remember the Clevenger FOIA against the US. The NSA has already admitted to having copies of Assange/Seth communications.
    This had dam well better be released some day or the entire intelligence community can go f… themselves till the end of time.

  18. Shyster says:

    Didn’t Nunes recently disclose that Rohrabacher already gave a closed session deposition to the house intelligence committee? I believe he stated the Rohrabacher deposition has set the precedent for the committee being allowed to call a member of congress to testify and therefore the GOP minority on the committee would use that precedent to call Schiff as their first witness.

    • WhiteBoard says:

      Comey’s MEMOs – – Comey Flipped a long time ago. and is pretending to be a nevertrumper to save his life
      Comey ended hillarys presidency – by affirming publically! what we heard through wikileaks.
      COMEY undercut Hillary – and its doing a Higher Loyalty. Gowdy said we would look upon comey in a positive way in the future
      Gowdy is now joining Trumps team -…. Conspiracy? or making sense

    • CM-TX says:

      Remember when PDJT first learned that Roch was having difficulty gaining access to him to deliver a message from Assange? I do. It was an outspoken reporter at an impromptu presser… & PDJT had no idea about any of it!
      It was then I knew General Kelley was a scumbag, who’d been blocking people, & filtering important info from reaching the President. ?

  19. The Red Pill says:

    I pray daily for extremely slippery soap at whatever prison Comey, Brennan, Clapper, McCabe and their crew end up at…

  20. John55 says:

    If Graham and the rest of the Senate Republicans would do their expletive-deleted jobs, we would not have to pin all our hopes and prayers on Barr.
    And if the Senate Republicans had done their jobs three years ago and investigated the Democrats and deep state instead of supporting Mueller and the crooked investigation of Trump, then “former GOP Rep Dana Rohrabacher” would most likely still be in office and the GOP would still be in charge of the House.

  21. DesertRain says:

    “…Julian Assange under tight control.”
    Or is Julian Assange also under tight protection? Pray for the latter… and pray for cool, calm, clean-thinking people to be managing his journey.

    • WhiteBoard says:

      safer than in that embassy… ?
      Brennen recently was confused as to why Durham might want to interview him.
      my guess based on this site – is the the IG report is to lull the coup into comfort thinking it will be squashed and they get to read it before it comes out…
      who ever said we had to have an IG report prior to indictments?

      • CM-TX says:

        Damage control… a process that acts as a buffer for Gov criminal activity. So to avoid actual justice & accountability in the court system. Think of it like a clean-up crew, collect all the evidence & witnesses so to contain & mitigate the damage. An organized cover-up … used as needed.

        • WhiteBoard says:

          right – so by durham shadowing Horowitz’s investigation – he ALLOWS the COUP to think it is going as planning (organized cover up)… however the notice to Brennen that Durham wants him to be interviewed was the Coups first GULP moment.
          if i was Barr – even if i was going to cover it up – i WOULD MAKE THE COUP SWEAT AND FEAR TO DEATH before i did cover it up.
          Key point – Ukraine loses gas contract to Russia in December… hence Syria fields are more vaulable negotiation over Europe now.. and they are a positive alternative to bonding with IRAN
          ALL ISSUES ARISE FROM EUROPE MANIPULATING TO GET ENERGY because they do not have any natural resources.

  22. UncleGrumpy says:

    His name was Seth Rich.
    Epstein didn’t kill himself.
    God bless Donald John Trump.

  23. donnyvee says:

    Hi all. I genuinely have not pondered this before just now. What if the CIA hacked the server(s)?

    • Tim Tarr says:

      Two fifth graders and a Windows 95 computer is all that was needed to hack that server. The list of who didn’t is probably a much shorter list.

      • Maquis says:

        That was true of Hillary’s toilet server, by design, but the asserted hack in question is of the DNC’s server, which wasn’t demonstratably hacked by anyone, despite Ukrainian coconspirators’ noncredible “investigators.”

    • trialbytruth says:

      Interesting. Why would they release all the anti Bernie stuff that enrage his base. That would however get the Trump conspiracy ball rolling.

  24. Louisiana Tea Rose says:

    TESTIMONY:
    I stumbled over CTH when I was surfing for info about some dude named Strzok that got fired by Mueller in 2017….then tripped over it again, stubbing my toe! when trying to get more info about some Judge named Contreras…and THEN I read an article in The Nation by Patrick Lawrence, about a DNC hacking that wasn’t…..
    And that’s when I found my branch in this amazing Tree!
    So, Treepers, looks like our guy Sundance has brought us full circle into view of the most virulent and toxic crisis our nation has ever faced. I have to believe we are as prepared as anyone to face what is coming.
    Regardless of where we end up, I’m just glad that I’m not one of those poor, ignorant, blind, deaf, and dumb people who may never know how we got here.
    Knowing what I know about you, my friends, I’m giving us a 50-50 chance of making it through the apocalypse.

  25. Guessed says:

    Didn’t Jamie Gorelick construct The Wall between foreign and domestic intelligence gathering? Reconcile that with Peter Strozk’s role and coordination between FBI and CIA.

    • fred5678 says:

      She was involved with TWO MAJOR scandals — created the Wall that prevented the CIA from telling the FBI about two hijackers arriving in San Diego and the Crash of 2008, which was aggravated by Fannie Mae and Freddie MAC, on one of which she served on the board.

  26. petey says:

    dan , because DJT is a ball buster. just a little more heat for the game. pressure does not create character it reveals it. pretend you re comey or brennen or shiftty or nan or chuckie.and your spies (we know the government is loaded with nevertrumpers to spy on those trying to make America great) tell you the AG is headed to Sen Graham s office, collar gets a little tight room gets a little smaller but you tell yourself “no biggie”. then word hits that a certain former congressperson is meeting with them. the fear meter goes into overdrive, the coup plotters know what they did so they know where the bodies are buried. what if Assange told Dana where he could find copies of all the wilileaks stuff. you don t think Julian was stupid enough to have just one copy and have that in his pocket. he would seeded the internet with copies in case something odd happened to him. unlike the pedophile who choked himself to death Julian did nothing wrong and he had no masters to answer to. wait till you hear the media spin, either it will be huge or they will bury it completely. on top of that there is extra pressure being applied by project veritas, kinda interesting that there is an american and british link to that story too.

  27. thedoc00 says:

    There is an interesting angle to consider here, Gina Haspel. Everybody is quick to write her off as a Brenan Clone but just wondering what if that is true??? The UK is part of her old stomping grounds in the CIA.

    • Crispus Attucks says:

      Brennan and Haspel despised each other.

      • thedoc00 says:

        Not agreeing or disagreeing with you as I try refrain from participating in discussions with no basis. You are the first person to say that here, whom I have seen. Every other CTH commenter has spun a positive relationship or better between them, prior to your comment. Her personal history suggests a tough independent person.
        If you are correct, she knows where all the dirt is located in the UK and who created it or controls it, which is why I pose the question.

        • Beau Geste says:

          This is interesting news for me. Do you have a cite?

        • Beau Geste says:

          if she was CIA station chief in Britain when halper, turk, and mifsud (and his Sidney-celebrated phones) were activated against carter page, papadopolous, and General Flynn, how could she be a “white hat”? what evidence is there that she was not on the brennan team while brennan was there and in charge?

          • Maquis says:

            None we’ve yet seen.

          • thedoc00 says:

            Given the amount of compartmentalization done within the FBI and IC, it is not hard to for Haspel NOT being a direct participant in Brenan’s operation against Candidate and President Elect Trump. As the director, Brenan had assets to get around Haspel and all she would have been available was rumor and visitors explained away by her boss, with MI-5 and MI-6 cover to validate actions directed by Brenan and Comey.
            Nobody can say with any certainty if Haspel is on either side of the coup at this point.
            Given her CIA service included wet work, she would not be an easy target nor somebody to take lightly. She is an extremely dangerous wild card if she is not in on the coup.

  28. Reserved55 says:

    Is it wishful thinking or is Lyndsey maybe getting ammunition to hold hearings?

    • Rhoda R says:

      If Graham actually does get around to holding hearings he will carefully direct them away from anything meaningful. If he’d really wanted to get to the bottom of anything he’d have started months ago.

  29. JackB says:

    Propaganda Narratives Are Custom-Made For Each Ideological Echo Chamber
    https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/propaganda-narratives-are-custom-made-for-each-ideological-echo-chamber-47534dcd7481
    “Every political sector has been given a custom-made reason to hate Assange by the narrative management network whose sole interest is imprisoning a journalist for telling the truth.”
    The scapegoating of Assange for truthtelling.

  30. dustahl says:

    Assange is a true journalist and whistle blower
    Pardon Assange for testimony .

  31. Patrick Healy says:

    Sundance you are such a good sleuth you make my head hurt following your exposures.
    Please do not forget the “rest of the world” team trying to bring your President down.
    I mean the Australians Italians, New Zeland and Canada – together with Britain, Lindsay Graham your own attorney general, the present heads of the FBI and the Cia.
    Just look to the present efforts to deny General Flynn justice from – the US justice department.
    You are brilliant but I think too generous to the present swamp dwellers.

  32. The Red Pill says:

    The was never ANY hack at the DNC
    Downloaded to USB drive
    Information given to Assange
    Seth Rich was the downloader
    Rumor has it Rosenstein was in on the Seth Rich hit
    The rabbit hole is deep…

  33. tozerbgood8315 says:

    The surgical undoing of Obama is a time consuming and complicated procedure.

  34. Zoe says:

    Julián Assange could have put this to rest many years ago especially with Seth Rich being dead. He is partly responsible for the crap sandwich we are living in right now and the millions spent investing a hoax of Russian interference in the 2016 election. If Assange would have told everyone that he received the documents from Seth Rich and he was murdered because of the leak where would we be today? And Dana Rohrabacher should have spilled the beans too.

    • John B says:

      Julian Assange did not want to burn his source, regardless of whether or not he is alive. It’s called journalistic integrity. He is suffering more than any of us for it, so show some respect.

      • Sara c says:

        JohnB, Oh please. POTUS is far more important . I am sick and tired of source protection as it relates to our President and the schemes to oust him. I think that mr. Assange is probably protecting his life rather than his journalistic beliefs.

    • Matthew LeBlanc says:

      Don’t victim blame. PDJT could have done the same but he didn’t. We are in this because of evil people in our government. May they all hang.

    • arze says:

      There is some confusion about whistleblowers, role of the press and anonymous sourcing.
      Because our media as an institution is broken, this may sound shocking, even if it boilerplate.
      1] The only time media is supposed to NOT publish name of a source is if that person is a whistleblower — someone that exposes corruption. Period. There is no other justification–NONE; sources are otherwise supposed to be identified so we can examine the news as true or false or 50 shades of s h i t.
      2] What has been going on for decades — using anonymous sources for all things having nothing to do with corruption, in other words, granting anonymity when it is not warranted — and is supposed to be expressly forbidden — is hardly even recognized anymore for the damage this has caused.
      3] All these anonymously sourced stories have as their purposes partisan political agendas.
      4] A wise newspaper publisher would never run even one single story that used anonymous sources for this partisan or that partisan person to smear this one or that one. Yet, this is the bulk of what “reporting” has become.
      5] But, Not for everyone. Least of all, not for serious journalists and those actually practicing this craft. [however tiny a minority they may now be]
      6] Using Eric C. as a “whistleblower” makes all of this all the more outrageous. It is no different than how Christine Blassey Ford’s fake rape claims are and were outrageous to actual rape victims.
      7] Assange promises his sources unconditional anonymity precisely because he is exposing actual, genuine, corruption, and especially corruption of the most powerful actors and institutions on Earth. The predators that roam the world….
      8] Believe it or not, he is one of the few actually, consistently, with principle, that goes about his work, in the public interest.
      9] It is unfortunate when we can no longer distinguish genuine journalism from what passes as such from the hordes and hyenas concentrated in NYC, DC and LA — barking at us to conform or be ostracized. That is not a free press, of course, but that is where we sit, now.
      10] Assange’s duty is not to put things to rest, as it were, rather, to wake us up — to the massive corruption. He alone had the audacity to stand up to the Clinton Inc. And is paying the price, which is an indictment of all of us as citizens of this country. We owe him more than we can ever pay.
      ” . . .if these old walls could speak.
      They would tell you that I owe you,
      More that I could ever pay.” [S. Colvin]
      PS
      This line from the WAPO story Sundance referenced is worth another shout out–for the below snippet:
      [[[Law enforcement officials close to the attorney general (Barr) have said he is concerned also about how decisions were made in 2017 to open an investigation into then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions over his interactions with Russia’s ambassador to the United States.]]]
      I am sure of one thing, whatever else Barr/Durham come up with in the end: the fact that Sessions was targeted — no stone will be left un-turned particularly on this perfidy.
      Obama, himself, I am quite confident, is more than worried about this. Obama is implicated in this too, of course.
      Sessions was a weak man, who tried to go by the book I suppose, even recused himself — and that was not enough for these maniacs trying to destroy Pres. Trump and Gen. Flynn, and others.
      Barr knows he is going after maniacs, and he will succeed at least in this dimension of this criminal investigation of the criminals who were supposed to be working for us.
      And Rod Rosenstein, like the rest of his partners in crime, pushing the evidence free basis for this entire Russia hacked the Democrats scandal. — Rod, do us a favor, shut up and go away!
      https://twitter.com/RodRosenstein/status/1178389549610868739

      • WhiteBoard says:

        this is Rod’s cover to pretend he doesnt know about VAULT 7 via wiki leaks that shows how BRENNEN can make the IP look like whomever he wants… HENCE NSA admiral rogers not signign on the ICA report… he didnt see any more SOURCES EXCEPT FOR IP.
        Rod is trying to pretend he doesnt know… or he was tricked by brennen by seeing a Russian IP ( you would think is cyber security staff could brief him that an IP can be altered)

    • SmilinJackAbbott says:

      Rich didn’t act alone and Assange is protecting other living sources from prosecution and arrest. Craig Murray met with one of them in a Washington park after Rich’s death. Assange is the real deal. He put his life on the line. Ironic the chosen attack meme on WikiLeaks is they aren’t journalists. They have more journalistic integrity in their little fingers than the entire pack of swines in the MSM put together.

  35. trapper says:

    “they are basically asking, in quite robust terms, for help in doing a hatchet job on their own intelligence services”
    And when you prune the diseased branches from your fruit tree in order to save the tree and keep the disease from killing it, you are in effect doing a hatchet job on your tree. Good thing, not a bad thing.

    • Doppler says:

      My mom used to say that, when it comes to pruning the garden, you have to be ruthless.

    • RAC says:

      “they are basically asking, in quite robust terms, for help in doing a hatchet job on their own intelligence services”
      Hatchet job : a forceful or malicious verbal attack (merriam-webster)
      Feed that phrase through the globalist deep state inverter and it translates as….
      Hatchet job : truth
      I’m good at this I listen to the BBC a lot 😉

  36. Nigella says:

    So why hasn’t Assange released his evidence? I thought he had a “dead mans switch” if he were to be arrested

    • parleyvous says:

      They shut down all his internet access and access to other visitors and within week there was a massive power and internet outage across whole USA in OCT 2016. They shut him down and whatever switch he had IMHO.

    • BruisedOrange says:

      Everyone. It’s a “DEAD man’s switch” — not an arrested man’s switch!
      It is the THREAT of it that keeps him alive, regardless of where he is. Once he uses it, he is defenseless.

  37. Garavaglia says:

    I question the deadman’s switch scenario. Wouldn’t he..by now..have released a “teaser”, or had it set up to be released, on his arrest, a “warning shot” of sorts. Surely he doesn’t want to die incarcerated. Does he have any leverage at all?

    • Nigella says:

      That’s what I wonder

      • Garavaglia says:

        I feel bad for him..and had hoped he would have been able to damage to the deep state by now..but it hasn’t happened. At least publicly.

    • parleyvous says:

      No. They shut down his internet access and access to other visitors and within week there was a massive power and internet outage across whole USA in OCT 2016. They shut him down and whatever switch he had IMHO.

      • Garavaglia says:

        The “switch” would have been activated from other locations..by other people. He would not be required to “activate” anything himself…the chain of events would be set up to happen absent his ability to do anything himself. In other words, “If this happens to me, I need you to do this, cause I can’t”.

        • parleyvous says:

          No. A deadmans switch is activated by a user not entering a code to prevent release of info. If it was triggered but blocked from being released by mass disruption on internet then program will think it released the info yet it was never distributed.

      • lolli says:

        Parleyvous,
        I have seen and heard wiki leaks was infiltrated. No proof or links. No idea if true.

        • parleyvous says:

          Say i have program i need to enter a code in daily or contents will be emailed…. say i do not enter code and program kicks off. Say after kicking off all power and internet is shutdown preventing content from being disseminated. The october internet shutdown was historically odd in regards to scale and timing.

          • Maquis says:

            While that would indeed be a typical technological deadman switch, in the world Assange moved he knew he couldn’t count on a technological solution dependent upon his own actions or inactions, as losing his ability to act could as easily have been imprisonment rather than his death, and, in prison, the only thing keeping him alive is his captors’ fear of his information, so not being able to enter a code due to his captivity ultimately resulting in the release of the information would actually remove any reason his keepers might have had not to kill him, promptly though likely very slowly…
            Please remember that deadman switches, so-called, began as literal handheld mechanical devices that an operator of some industrial process could not well maintain their grip on if they were incapacitated and no longer able to safely control the process the breaking of the circuit at his switch protected others and the entire operation by stopping it. Refuelers of aircraft use them at the tanker trucks and fuel pits to ensure fuel stops flowing when bad happens, for example.
            Just noted this to observe that one single strict definition of an informational deadman switch is surely not the only option for Assange, and, as noted above, that particular one that would go off when he fell into unfriendly hands would actually be quite counter productive to his goal to stay alive. I’m certain this man has friends ready to release upon predetermined circumstances, in a manner as surely had our clandestine natures devised in the dark days before the dark web.

  38. Concernedcitizen says:

    The CIA/FBI plan was brilliant: Create a bogeyman (Russia), then connect Candidate/President Trump to the bogeyman. Sounds like an insurance policy.

  39. Haider Raza says:

    If Assange would have told everyone that he received the documents from Seth Rich and he was murdered because of the leak where would we be today? And Dana Rohrabacher should have spilt the beans too.
    https://t.co/DATPTEUZSr?amp=1

    • Matthew LeBlanc says:

      If PDJT immediately told everyone the briefing Admiral Rogers gave him that prompted the move to Trump Tower where would we be? If Sessions wasn’t a limp wrist at best a conspirator at worse where would we be? If GOP republicans showed intestinal fortitude leading up to 2018 election where would we be? If allies in congress actually leaked classified that would counter fake news narrative where would we be?
      See how that works? It is the fault of our evil and corrupt government not those swept up by it’s corruption.

  40. hokkoda says:

    Report must be coming out in the next few days?? I don’t see Barr briefing anybody on the Hill knowing that the leaks will be almost immediate unless they’re about to show their hand (or part of it). There are also issues with the SSCI and what Warner’s role was in all of this. It’s also within reason to suppose that Barr is letting Graham know about a Senator or Senators on the SSCI whose names might be about to get muddy. All speculation of course.
    I do think they’re going to try to roll this out in a way that the peasants don’t show up at the CIA in Langley with nooses and guns. It’s easy to forget because we think about these things a lot, but government collapse because of the kinds of activities theorized about on this page and others.
    If your goal is to not collapse the government, then your goal has to be either to cover it up or roll up the conspiracy in a way that covers the margins enough that it appears you have stemmed the cancer from metastasizing. You either cover it up and hope that the agencies “quietly” start a house cleaning. We’ve been seeing this at FBI and DOJ for a couple of years now…lots of resignations, demotions, firings…but no prosecutions. Or, you identify a very core membership of the conspiracy and you hold very public hangings in order to quickly declare the war won.
    I don’t know that anybody is ready for a world where their government is proven to be totally illegitimate. I might think that, and you might too, but basic civil order depends on the majority of people thinking that their government is on their side.

    • parleyvous says:

      Scorched earth destroy FBI, DOJ, and CIA crooks and rebuild is better here.

      • hokkoda says:

        I just don’t see that ever happening. The Government Party has proven itself incapable of policing its members. Think about what Stalin had to do…to clean house he had to literally murder millions of people. It was the only way to be sure. The way the Government Party works is that even if Barr and Durham wanted to go scorched earth – they won’t – much of the Government Party would fight them. Their own agents will fight them. Their own prosecutors will fight them. Their administrative staff right on down to the janitors will fight them. They’ll take incoming fire from other departments that aren’t even involved. People at EPA and DoD will fight them, along with State Dept.
        We’re talking about a couple of dozen co-conspirators, but they have a million government employees who think that the ends justify the means. Whatever it takes to get Trump.
        Scorched earth won’t get the job done. So they’ll try to carefully slice and cut to try and remove the cancerous parts. At most. More likely, they’ll try to rely on the various department chiefs to write down names and push people out. That way, nothing really gets fixed, but they can declare victory.

        • parleyvous says:

          90 percent perhaps higher of FBI is corrupt imho or there would be more actual whistleblowers…. Las Vegas shenanigans convinced me. Let alone the cesspool married to MSM. CIA is worse. DOJ has too many corrupt people working with BARR still.

          • hokkoda says:

            “FBI is corrupt imho or there would be more actual whistleblowers”
            Exactly, they all know what is going on, but nobody is going to say anything. Even the people who might be tempted to speak up will keep their heads down because they don’t want to lose their jobs. That’s damn good money they’re raking in, best not to put that at risk.

    • Ma McGriz says:

      This is an enormously important perspective, hokkoda.
      Thank you.

    • MaineCoon says:

      Probably release it on Black Friday when everyone is shopping, eating turkey and sleeping shortly thereafter.

      • hokkoda says:

        Lol, the only people kept in the dark when the government announces things on Fridays any more are government employees who leave for the weekend at noon. On Thursday. lol Well, “working from home”, as they joking tell each other while billing you a full 8 hours for Friday.
        Thanks to the interwebs, if they release it on Black Friday, people will get to have their Thanksgiving “family photos” on Facebook interrupted by people posting all the bad things in the IG Report.
        I think the Government Party really does hate all of us enough to make sure to ruin Thanksgiving.

      • I’d like to see this President and AG get away from the Clinton-initiated practice of Friday evening document dumps. It smells. Barr should release it on a Monday or Tuesday morning, and emphasize that the government works for the people, not the other way around.

  41. Gary Lacey says:

    I sense what is coming will shake the very foundations of the earth, charges and indictments(the tell-all rats coming out of the woodwork) that will completely astonish Wash DC.

  42. Justin Green says:

    Seth was definitely a Bernie supporter, but he wasn’t Russian.
    He had motive.
    He had opportunity.
    His death is mysterious.
    Assange all but stated he was the leak, including putting up a $25,000 reward for information on Seth’s case.
    I’m willing to bet that Assange has emails from Seth discussing his intent to leak.

  43. trapper says:

    Whatever in the world do you think they might have in mind as a role for Mr. Rohrabacher? Backroom quarterbacking of the hijacking of the Schiff clown show?

    • Doppler says:

      Let us hope to testify in connection with indictments relating to illegal election rigging that cost him his seat.

  44. Richie says:

    Seeing how easy it was for the deep state to silence Epstein, Im surprised Assange is still alive?

  45. Oldretiredguy says:

    While I understand the Seth Rich narrative due to his murder and his access to the DNC data, why does everyone overlook the obvious? The Pakistani toy boy of Debbie Wesserman Schultz seems like a much easier answer to the DNC data breach. He was bragging about it before his arrest. Seems he got hidden away pretty fast.

    • Justin Green says:

      Motive. Seth had a better motive, being a Bernie fan and not a Clinton fan.
      Now he’s REALLY not a Clinton fan.

  46. Bill Dumanch says:

    Missile tech sold to China by BillJeff Clinton for ManBearPig 2000 campaign
    Diane Feinstein’s ChiComm SPY for 20 years ‘retires’ and is where?
    “We had everything on him…Clinton…yeah…”
    TV networks FLIP OUT allow strange guests to barge-on-in
    HillBot appears on TV show as Epstein video drops
    “Epstein didn’t kill himself”
    And, we’re the bad guys.
    OK then…good talk.

  47. Justin Green says:

    Imagine the chaos that would ensue if it were publicly demonstrated that the DNC/Hillary/DWS/Podesta had an American citizen whacked over an email leak.

  48. Bill Henslee says:

    Some one in the Trump administration should offer a plea deal to Assange and/or a pardon for the information as to where the info came from. Wouldn’t we all like to know? Maybe Rohrbacher is the guy to carry that message. Or to become a Special Counsel for another aspect of this basket of snakes.

    • Beau Geste says:

      The DOJ handed out “pardons” like haloween candy to ALL of hillary’s people involved in document destruction, including after subpoena.
      But the DOJ needs to prosecute Assange in violation of the first Amendment from Britain?
      “Justice” is blind… but not the crooked department of justice attempt to do an end run around the Pentagon Papers case.

  49. LBB says:

    A couple of weeks ago there were headlines about Assange US extradition case. Judge denied any delay for Assange team. His case will start Feb 25th. The lawyer also claims the “american state” was spying on the embassy illegally. So many facets to this entire saga.
    snip
    ‘Mark Summers, defending Assange, claimed the US had been spying on his client and said there was a link between the “reinvigoration of the investigation and Donald Trump’s presidency”.
    “This is part of an avowed war on whistleblowers to include investigative journalists and publishers,” Summers said. “The American state has been actively engaged in intruding on privileged discussions between Mr Assange and his lawyer.”
    He referred to reports that Spanish courts are investigating a security company that allegedly worked in conjunction with the US to “obtain information by unlawful acts, thefts and clandestine surveillance within the Ecuadorian embassy … with increasing intensity from 2017 onwards”, and asked for more time to prepare evidence for the case.
    The prosecutor James Lewis QC, representing the UK government, said he strongly opposed Assange being given more time to prepare evidence, pre-empting their later request.’
    https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/oct/21/julian-assange-extradition-judge-refuses-request-for-delay-wikileaks

    • babrightlight says:

      Yeah, the US government wants to extradite him–say they have the cell that Epstein was in currently available.

      • Recall Rohrabacher has a message from Julian Assange to President Trump that many believe was an offer to hand over evidence of DNC server internal extract (not hacked) and also info on Seth Rich… We never heard what happened or whether Rohrabacher was able to deliver the message to Trump. Let’s hope in addition to the treason we can get these bastards for the murder of that young man.

        • Linda K. says:

          Let’s hope Rohrbacher is talking to a Grand Jury. I wonder what is up with Lindsey? And lastly, I wonder if Barr is only pretending to like Wray, until the trap is all sprung.

          • aarmad says:

            Unlikely, but maybe….hopefully. Barr and Wray are tight. The only thing Wray has done is to continue the cover up of fbi corruption. I am still not sure about Barr, but I am leading toward a swampo that will do little! Durham??? may be the first time he is asked to ignore the evidence and go with the flow. This is taking way to long for a reason. What is the reason????

            • aumechanic says:

              I read I believe it was truth pundit that Wray ran a sting on McCabe and stroke that caught them trying to get rid of evidence, haven’t thought much of Wray myself but that sounded promising.

            • richard verney says:

              But it has not taken that long has it.
              Until Mueller was out, it would have been very difficult for Barr to do anything that would undermine Mueller. Barr relatively quickly after taking office forced Mueller’s hand and got Mueller to publish the report.
              Fairly soon after that, Barr raised his concerns about spying, and that it might have been political in nature without proper predicate. This was just a few months ago. Durham has been appointed, the scope of Durham’s investigations widened, beyond the predicate, and now it has been turned into a criminal investigation. Further the DOJ has obviously released sensitive information to Sydney Powell so that she could draft her €xplosive recent filings. That gives a good indication that the DOJ is serious about what went on, and taking steps to correct it. I think that one should not underestimate the importance of what has gone on between Ms Powell and the DOJ. And all of this has happened in just a few months. To me that looks like quite a lot of progress, in a short period of time.
              I understand people’s frustration with the slow progress made by the Republicans when they controlled both the Senate and Congress, and the failure of any hard action by Graham, but it is difficult, at this stage, to fault Barr.
              I was surprised to hear Barr’s comments about Wray, but of course none of us here know the full inside story. Apart from that question mark, I see no reason at this stage to criticize AG Barr. Let us wait and see how it pans out.

              • steph_gray says:

                Thank you for being a voice of reason on the timing.
                Over there on the Joe D/Victoria thread it’s been like “Who let the RolCons out?” ? Joe D really triggers the angry trolls…
                I can agree that waiting is frustrating – well, for some (actually not to me anymore because I am interpreting the quiet as working for the good side).

              • askmeanythinginthelight says:

                You have helped to affirm my hopes. Thank you

          • Bruce says:

            Linseed is being read the riot act about his involvement with traitor McStain. THAT is why he’s giving up judicial committee chairmanship.

        • NYMinuteman says:

          It is long past time to have this all subjected to a very real and very open investigation. If all of the wild “conspiracy theories” turn out to be connected and have a nexus of truth to them, so many things will finally be explained.
          McCabe’s bizarre behavior, the inexplicable handling of the Rich murder investigation, Nellie Ohr’s ham radio, the “insurance policy”, We’ll “get rid of this guy”, Brennan and Clapper looking like a couple of small old men worrying about a sword belonging to a dude name Damocles hanging over them … and on and on.
          If Horowitz and Durham somehow have the sack to expose a broad and pernicious conspiracy within the FBI CIA and DOJ to “get” Trump – whatever their motivation – the entire edifice collapses. That the Ukraine “whistleblower” is a Deep State CIA operative somehow tasked to the White House, and then returned under accusation of partisan leaking will just be the final straw.
          The impeachment circus is no more than a propaganda campaign to smear Trump before the election. Perhaps Barr and Durham have been slow walking it to wait for the Democrats to blow their wad, so they can come in and tear the entire thing down. At this point, noting would surprise me.
          I don’t pretend that Trump is some great statesman being unfairly persecuted. He is a bull headed, inarticulate simpleton who somehow became POTUS. As in his business life, he has had some spectacular successes and some stinkers. But, on balance, he has done exceptionally well. He didn’t havre to go to work, and he didn’t have to become President. He chose both to prove himself, and I’m sure his biggest regret is that he never got to sit his father down in the Oval Office and say “So, Dad, was i the best, or what?” And for his father to say “Yeah, Donny, you did good.” But, as he has for virtually all his partners in the RE biz, he delivered the goods for the USA. He kept the flagging recovery going, he kept the stock market afloat, he took on China point blank, no shit, in the Octagon, he forced Mexico to take on their share of the migrant problem, got the wall going, and exposed the lies and hypocrisy of the Dems on the entire range of the issue. He is trying to protect the US from the all-out drug war in Mexico. The Democrats want to make our border completely open – for Mexican drug gangs to come here and threaten our safety. Trump says no.
          It’s a friggin remarkable record for a guy with no experience, fighting an obstructionist House. He dumped the Kurdish/Syria problem on Putin (and it looks largely solved). He got NATO members to pony up their share. It’s a long list.
          If Horowitz and Barr can expose the fraud behind the entire small group attack on Trump that has led to the Democrat hysteria on impeachment, and we can go back to REGULAR POLITICS rather than this INSANE CIRCUS, this phenomenal list of accomplishments can grow, and if we close good deals with China and the EU, watch the US rapidly start to make up lost ground froM the past 30 years. Maybe it’s a pipe dream.
          Let’s let the people decide. I for one want to see what comes next if this country gets unleashed with full, fair trade, rebuilding manufacturing, producing more oil and gas than anyone on the planet, bringing the benefit of this growth to the middle class and new, legal American citizens and immigrants. The only way to limit the impact of our enormous embedded debt burden is to grow our way out of it. You cant tax it away. You sure as shit can’t spend it away. Let’s put this trash behind us, have an election, and see if the American people would like to give Trump a shot at GOVERNING without the entire apparatus of our government intelligence community out to destroy him,.
          Too long and somewhat incoherent. Kind of like what’s been going on in this country since 2016.

          • lumoc1 says:

            When one is born stupid, it is really sad because you cannot fix stupid; and that is very likely the correct explanation for ” Too long and somewhat incoherent.”

          • DWIM says:

            Wow. I was going to just ‘Like’ this post, but then I saw a follow-on reply referring to ‘you just can’t fix stupid’. So, instead, I’m posting saying that I don’t only just ‘Like’ this post, but also say Yay and amen! Yes, maybe long. But that should not denigrate the content. Maybe a troll-type response (below), but regardless, here’s my (FWIW) affirmation agreeing to the ‘long’ post’s content.

            • Peoria Jones says:

              Oh, so you like this part?
              “I don’t pretend that Trump is some great statesman being unfairly persecuted. He is a bull headed, inarticulate simpleton who somehow became POTUS.”
              Because I couldn’t disagree more.

              • steph_gray says:

                Yeah anyone who thinks a wildly successful businessman who is now wildly successful as the President of the United States, with all odds against him, is a “simpleton” –
                – is, in my estimation, just another RolCon. We are inundated with them today. The swamp must be pretty nervous.

                • Peoria Jones says:

                  Clearly. A stupid comment like that, and somehow this new poster coincidentally finds two more new posters who just have to expound on how brilliant his post is. Ridiculous.

              • lolli says:

                ?Peoria Jones
                Thank you. Simpleton he is not. VSGPT is what he is and fighting the freaking corrupt world with hardly an ally in sight.

          • askmeanythinginthelight says:

            I am speechless! Most excellent. Millions should read this! Thank you,

          • Tom Eberlin says:

            He is a bull headed, inarticulate simpleton who somehow became POTUS. Simpleton? How ignorant of you. Bull headed? Any more than any other great president we have had? You don’t think Reagan was bull headed. He became president because he worked his ass off unlike Hillary who was either drunk or sick!

    • BoreMole says:

      Assange is an unsavory character… but is there some reason why PDT himself could not offer asylum and no charges, in exchange for the juice? Frankly, understanding this dark plot is a lot more important than whether Assclown gets to serve time or not for being a traitor – we want the REAL traitors brought down and he was just a pawn. There are plenty of ways to ensure he never gets to touch a computer again, and honestly… whether you like the leaks he did or not, he has been doing us a service showing how corrupt our intelligence apparatus is.

      • Assange is an unsavory character? Says who, the general Washington DC consensus? Anyone who tackles the muck and mire of the Swamp is a hero to me and Assange fits that bill.

        • Peoria Jones says:

          Assange has never been pro-USA. He may well fit the bill in outing what pro-America folks need to answer our questions, but that doesn’t make him a hero. It’s not a simple matter of black-and-white. And he still hasn’t helped.

        • Padric says:

          Let’s not kid ourselves here: While Assange has done some good and for the moment has information that is helpful to our arguments, the fact remains that he did break the law and some of his past releases did put a few people in danger to a degree.
          I tend to think of Assange as a temporary ally in this struggle. His personal code allows him to be trusted that he is being truthful in what he says but ultimately untrustworthy because he’s just as likely to turn on you should you do something that violates that same personal code that allows him to be trusted in the moment.

          • iRockie says:

            The individuals who stole government secrets broke the law. Julian Assange broke the law no more than a domestic free press and maybe even less so. Arguably, Julian Assange cannot be subject to domestic US Law for publishing information that is no longer secret.

            • Padric says:

              I wasn’t referring to his publication of items so much as I was referring to the assistance he gave Bradley Manning.

      • Alligator Gar says:

        Assange cannot be a traitor to the USA. He is Australian and does not and never did reside in the USA or hold citizenship here. He owes the USA no allegiance.
        He can be charged for espionage or some other crime, but not treason.

        • BoreMole says:

          I sure do appreciate every replier missing the key point of offering him freedom (with “asylum” clearly indicating that I already know he is not a US citizen), but sure, got it, thanks for all the corrections.
          He is “unsavory” to me with all the skeletons in the closet and that he hates America, and has leaked info that almost certainly resulted in loss of life of innocents and American soldiers, and exposed legitimate intelligence operations that our 3-letter agencies are actually tasked with doing – spying on enemies abroad rather than spying on our own citizens domestically. Its fascinating to me that we are so willing to selectively forget all the other UNSAVORY stuff he has done, depending on who it benefitted at the time. he is a pile of dung.
          My point, once again, was that regardless of that or who he is, squashing the larger coup effort is worth letting him off the hook.

          • BoreMole,
            While I agree with you on principle, I also understand that it is relative – for some a person is a terrorist and for some that same person is a freedom fighter.
            Both labels fit the bill appropriately for the same person – It depends on which side of the aisle you are at.
            Having said that, I am curious how many really switched or not voted for Hillary due to the leaked emails. I have not met one such person in real life, but I have met quite a few in real life who thinks that President Trump colluded with Russia – courtesy our fake news media.

        • ann says:

          Julian Assange/Wiki leaks has never LIED. Noteably OUR government does.,
          DoJ, Bureau, Congress and DSI are founts of disinformation!
          Wiki leaks is PRO TRANSPARENCY, and enjoys an unimpeachable record of accurate primary source data.
          Unlike Bureau & DOJ, wikileaks respects our intelligence,
          In contrast, Deep Creeper takes us for stupid mental mushrooms!
          Their actions are what outed them, as OFFICIAL FOOLS , who CORRUPTED the authority WE entrusted each of them with.
          Resist actually declared War on Trump, Russia & Citizens in some mad idea we’d fall for it and avenge Poor Hillary The Victim.
          The whole Hacking, Puppet & Meddling Theme was obvious classic BS, from the get go,
          Even non street wise, notoriously gullible idiots like me could see it.
          despite Deep Creep Solomn Reports and Clinton’s moans, WiKIleaks is not out to “get” the American people.
          They are non discriminatory in releasing withheld data : Russian, Ukrainnean, and various European archives are also on their sites.,

      • oldumb says:

        Yes, “Assclown” did us a favor. How unsavory, so let’s make sure he can’t touch a computer again, or he might help us again.

  50. Guyski says:

    Just a reminder. Julian Assange is Australian.

  51. k4jjj says:

    Well somebody murdered Seth Rich and somebody knows who. Maybe part of this secrecy is a murder investigation that can implicate some very big fish. We have more than enough evidence now the FBI and CIA are organized criminal organizations. John Durham has the smarts and the stones to put government agents in prison as he has already shown. Durham is a very serious MoFo. His biography could be the focus of a new TV series, “Breaking Balls.”

    • gary says:

      2 guns robbed from fbi vehicle 2 hours before rich was shot, 2 blocks away. a glock model 22 and an m-4. cops have never said what caliber of bullet killed rich. wonder why.

      • Linda K. says:

        Probably was Peter Strzok . He is into everything.

      • Lady Sid says:

        Where is the report that an FBI vehicle was robbed? Does the FBI just leave its vehicles parked in Washington residential areas overnight? Is there a large decal on the side that reads FBI? Most criminals would give that puppy a wide berth;-) Sounds to me like that was a cover for whichever weapon was used to shoot Seth Rich and who did the dirty deed. Maybe it was someone from the FBI who had driven the vehicle earlier to that location knowing the Seth would be saying good night at 2 AM to his pals in the bar nearby and walking home. No sign of a struggle or robbery. Perhaps Seth recognized the shooter(s) which is why he didn’t struggle. Someone in the bar could have texted the shooter(s) that Seth was leaving and the way he was headed on foot, d’ya think?

      • mugzey302 says:

        The dirty cops use ms-13 for their “wet works”, I’m told. Then they are later found in their car shot in the head.

    • Durham might be the best, but do not forget who he answers to.

  52. Darklich123 says:

    Read up on D.A.K. Assange has no more leverage. He has no more dead man switches. His entire operation was coopted literally over night. The government shut down half the internet to do it, but they did. Do not expect any digital evidence to ever surface. It has been purged.

    • Paintingal says:

      Link?

    • Jederman says:

      There was a massive Oct 16 Dyn attack supposedly in retaliation for the Ecuadorian embassy cutting off his access to the internet (deadman switch)?

    • Terry says:

      Lmao! No way someone has the the juice. You can bet on that. Jillian is and was way ahead of the FBI and CIA. He has the goods. There’s a deadman’s switch out there. Not everything is online. Maybe ol Pam smuggled something out. But bet your bottom dollar Simone has it and more than someone probably a 100 or so.

      • Linda K. says:

        Pamela Anderson was visiting him quite often.

      • De Oppresso Liber says:

        Yep, you are correct; If the Dead Man Switches had all been co-opted/accounted for, then Assange would have achieved room temperature by now. The simple fact that he’s still breathing is evidence that the America haters do not believe they have all the goods…..yet.
        Assange may have the ultimate Dead Man’s Switch – President Donald Trump. Remember Rohrabacher had something to tell President Trump privately?

        • WhiteBoard says:

          basically this is the negotiation…
          the deadman switch is info not released for VERY GOOD REASON. it best its handled in secret. my guess is Hillary is going to be offered up to cover up the other connections… and those others know to never interfere again.
          benghazi hearing made us aware of the server – AT THAT TIME A MILITARY OPERATION begain working with ALL to clean it up.
          See below for a starting point – its the HARDWARE hack for all manufactured products in China. Starts in 2015
          https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-10-04/the-big-hack-how-china-used-a-tiny-chip-to-infiltrate-america-s-top-companies
          all federal agencies have been updated.
          all equipment has been updated
          all 5 g has been exchanged
          all allies have been updated
          the field is set – game time will be when people think Trump Wont Rally For Session in Alabama. YEA RIGHT

      • Andrée Azilda says:

        what about the 2 CryptoKitties that were given to Trump and Hillary Clinton? on twitter: “WikiLeaks is gifting two #CryptoKitties to President Trump and Secretary Clinton. Under 5 U.S.C. § 7432 Trump’s Tender Tabby will become federal property to be enjoyed by future presidents via custodians at the US National Archives”. I once read that while giving these cryptokitties Wikileaks passed on some secret files.
        https://wikileaks.shop/pages/cryptokitties

    • Petrel says:

      The US charge against Assange is the same one the government attempted against the NYT and the Ellsberg revelations — a case of freedom of the press.
      As Sundance makes clear, our DEEP STATE worked overtime between 2015 and yesterday to connect Donald Trump with anything Russian — be it Moscow real estate, the Kremlin, internet puppet masters, or catering companies used by Putin for City receptions, when Deputy Mayor of St Petersburg, in the 1980s — anything. Wikileaks revealing DNC maneuvers to deny Sanders the 2016 Democrat Presidential Nomination was a darn sight more political than any catering company.
      Then Congressman Rohrabacher reveals that Assange denied a Russian role in the DNC leak. A panicked DEEP STATE activates UK intelligence to frame, arrest and silence Assange.

    • MelH says:

      “D.A.K.” Is that so common all the rest of us ought to know what it refers to?

    • SmilinJackAbbott says:

      Former British diplomat Craig Murray said he personally visited Washington to meet someone other than Seth Rich(Rich had already been murdered at that point) for ‘administrative purposes’. Was the meeting for some kind of payment to avoid trace to the source?
      The point is the DNC email leak(not hack) was a major operation involving multiple human interactions, all with first hand knowledge. Unless and until those humans are all murdered, and Craig Murray is still very much alive, there’s no dead man switch.
      https://stranahan.com/forum/topic/what-craig-murray-has-not-said-about-the-leaks-but-many-think-that-he-has/

  53. Tim Cunningham says:

    The question perhaps is not “Will the AG speak on this topic?”, but “When will the AG speak on this topic?”

  54. Bulldog84 says:

    If someone is going to interview Assange, they had better do it pretty soon. Apparently he looks pretty unwell.
    Perhaps Rohrbacher is just coincidentally in DC doing some lobbying and this has nothing to do with Assange.

    • Jederman says:

      I thought Manu Raju worked in the WH.

    • It’s 2015… We’re just learning about the ‘hacking of the DNC server.’ Details are scarce.
      YEARS go by… Fast forward to September, 2019. Our President is overheard saying in a telephone call, “I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say Crowdstrike… I guess you have one of your wealthy people… The server, they say Ukraine has it…” We didn’t even know that PDJT KNEW about Crowdstrike and the server.
      Then, just five weeks later, the only known politician with direct knowledge of Julian Assange and the ‘hacking of the DNC’, Dana Rohrabacher, is seen 4,500 miles away from his California home, in Washington, D.C. Simultaneously, Nancy Pelosi and the House Dems have accelerated impeachment hearings, after learning about PDJT’s phone call where he mentioned Crowdstrike.
      The occurrence of these three events is NOT a coincidence. It’s just not.

      • oldumb says:

        Right, or it is.

      • De Oppresso Liber says:

        I’ve been opining about this since Solomon first reported it – “Crowdstrike” was a tripwire. When the CIA assets spying on President Trump heard him utter that word, they flipped out for all the obvious reasons. Crowdstrike is the nucleus of the COUP.
        I agree there’s no way those three events are not related.

      • Bird Watcher says:

        Someone once told me that coincidences are God’s way of remaining anonymous.

  55. yy4u says:

    “One British official with knowledge of Barr’s wish list presented to London commented that “it is like nothing we have come across before, they are basically asking, in quite robust terms, for help in doing a hatchet job on their own intelligence services””
    Ya mean because “their own intelligence services” did a hatchet job on the person they were trying to prevent from becoming the president? That hatchet job?
    If the AG cannot do “a hatchet job” on an out of control CIA then this country is ruled/governed by the CIA who if they can do this kind of thing to a person running for the presidency can do a hatchet job on any of us at any time. JUST LIKE THE KGB and NAZI Party.
    If the CIA has done all that the evidence seems to point to, then it needs to be disbanded, and we need to start over with a whole new “intelligence” agency, one that is not controlled by or part of ANY political party. An intelligence agency who doesn’t have a dog in the presidential campaigns. Same with FBI.

  56. Justin Green says:

    Epstein, Seth Rich, and Justice Scalia all in a relatively short period of time. The Clintons have been busy beavers.

    • yy4u says:

      Not necessarily Clintons but probably Deep State…the very ones whose fannies are in a sling right now, who knew their fannies would be in a sling if General Flynn ever returned to any position where he could take names and kick butts.

      • BoreMole says:

        I still think if Flynn is exonerated, Trump should give him a cabinet post specifically to go after them all and to see more liberal heads explode.

        • Amy2 says:

          I think General Flynn will want to get as far away from D.C. as possible.

          • BoreMole says:

            Heh, I certainly would. Maybe PDT can appeal to his greater responsibility his country to be sure it never happens again – by rooting out traitors and hanging them. Oh, and a little side of revenge.

          • oldumb says:

            General will not leave the battlefield until the war is over. IMO

          • Not only did they frame the General, they threatened his family. Revenge will be sweet, up close (in DC) and more than likely legally administered. Or, at least I hope it will be!

            • Walt says:

              If he had the goods do you think we would be in this mess. HE IS A FRAUD! Who almost took down our Vice President. What spook talks to the FBI at the level with out a lawyer present? wake up he has played the right like a fiddle and got very wealthy in the process. just keep donating…

          • Walt says:

            100% percent keep donating to his private go fund me which you can not see any info on…He is an Obama General never forget that.

    • Sentient says:

      “The Clintons” may have been involved in all three, but they weren’t the only ones. Probably CIA in all three cases. To keep saying “the Clintons” distracts people away from the Deep State involvement in all three murders.

      • moosemalloy says:

        A number of books by serious authors, mostly liberal, like Roger Morris and Christoper Hitchens, suggest strongly that Bill Clinton was recruited by the CIA in 1968 to be a CIA informant re foreign influence on the anti-war movement. Bill Clinton’s travels in the US Europe 1969-70 all seem connected to various anti-war conferences. That includes his New Mobe meeting in Martha’s Vineyard in 1969. One very interesting angle that I have been looking into is obtaining the passenger list for Clinton’s October 1968 USS United States voyage NY-South Hampton. Bill Clinton then met and spent lots of time with LBJ fixer Bobby Baker “and Baker’s entourage” during the voyage. Baker’s entourage included shapely blondes. Baker specialized in honey-traps and party girls. I have read some accounts that Watergate lady Heidi Rikan was connected to Baker. Heidi Rikan was connected to Billy Sol Estes along with many figures in LBJ’s circle. Later in the early 1970s Heidi hooked up with John and Maureen Dean, Barry Goldwater Jr. & Sr., Sam Dash, Ervin Committee chief counsel, senator Lowell Weicker, mob figure Carlos Marcello, Texas shady LBJ bagman Morris Jaffe, Ben Barnes, DNC Chair John White, Tex. Congressman John Young D-Tex and many DC gamblers, pols and wise guys.

    • Tl Howard says:

      Scalia = 80, a history of heart ailments, a sturdy eater of all that is good. Why do you assume murder?

      • Justin Green says:

        Almost 80.
        I’d think a person in that role would have a proper autopsy done as a matter of due course when you die unexpectedly.
        When people are less than transparent, it raises questions.
        Not that we could rely on an autopsy these days anyway. See Epstein.

      • lolli says:

        I followed the Scalia story from the morning it happened. Many details make it more likely “wet work”. That was one of the details, btw.
        IMO,
        Everything about the discovery, the location, (his wife said first time going to that ranch)
        The almost immediate cremation of his body, the local law enforcement crap that went on that day..
        There were pics of that ranch he was at. Very freaky and satanic. (The inside pics)
        I also remember a weird thing about him not being able to bring his security with him.
        Much more inconsistencies, and I think it was just convenient he was older and not in the best health.
        If he was younger, they would have chosen another method I am sure.
        Announcing the pillow over the face, then saying that was nothing, I saw as a warning to his family and others.

      • Sentient says:

        “Why do you assume murder?” 1) Podesta had said in a subsequently leaked e-mail that there was to be “wet work” that weekend. 2) He died on a ranch owned by a democrat. 3) The normal coroner for the area was out of town 4) the autopsy was done within hours of his death 5) …
        The Dems had learned from the 2000 election that any disputed vote tally case could make its way to the Supreme Court (after wending its way through the appellate courts). Most of the swing states were in appellate districts where the courts were dominated by Obama or Bill Clinton appointees. The Dems had gamed this out and realized that they could get a favorable decision in an appellate court, but it could get overturned by a 5-4 conservative SCOTUS. A 4-4 Supreme Court, however, couldn’t overturn an appellate court decision. Getting rid of Scalia was “prepping the battlefield”.

        • Judith M. Green says:

          There was no autopsy, from what I understand.

        • MelH says:

          In the stories I kept track of, Scalia’s family decided NOT to have an autopsy, but then he was quickly buried, so they might not have heard he was found with a pillow over his face. Or perhaps it was a matter of money…..autopsies are NOT cheap and 80 is still considered the banana peel a persons’ foot is on when the other foot is in the grave. Their alternative was to spend YEARS and tons of money on Lawyers working against the corrupt government to get a verdict matching J. Epstein’s bag of worms.

          • Justin Green says:

            Ginsburg has been kept alive despite several bouts with disease and cancer.
            You cannot convince me that SC justices are not running around without heart monitors on them most of the time.

      • littleanniefannie says:

        Why do you assume murder?
        Let’s just say suspicious at best. Announce death and almost instantaneous funeral. How convenient! Autopsy should have been standard protocol. That fish smells!

        • zorrorides says:

          Why do you assume murder?
          Was Mr Scalia discovered dead with a deep cut into his throat, almost a ‘slash’?

        • cdquarles says:

          I don’t assume that this death was murder, but the possibility can’t be ruled out. Why? We do not have enough information and much of that may be quite wrong. Local rule, regardless of age; if a death is unexpected (even if a person has known illnesses), then the state will do an autopsy and can even if the person’s family objects. Key word here is unexpected, and the coroner’s report (political office) is a part of the record. Also note that if resuscitation is attempted, that changes things. If a person with pneumonia dies, such a death would not be unexpected, even if it happened within 24 hours (such cases are known). Just what does unexpected mean here …. that’s a bit rubbery, so we are left to speculate.

      • Patriot1783 says:

        The fact he was a controversial Supreme Court Justice who’s vote could possible be the deciding factor and alter the current president at the time major cases, the fact he was alone and very far from home at the very least his own physician should have had chance to view and attend.
        In fact imho if any SCOTUS should die while on the bench there should be an autopsy conducted with or without family consent.

    • oldumb says:

      100% with 0% evidence.

  57. yy4u says:

    In case anyone forgot, here is Judge Napolitano reporting on the British intel services working against Donald Trump. Remember, he got suspended by Fox News, and when he came back, he was a Never Trumper.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3X1GQWp2Iw
    My guess is while he was out, he was “called on” by these same intelligence services and told that Trump isn’t the only person they spy on and “Judgie Pooh, here’s what we have on YOU.” Since then, he has been “reliable”.

  58. Skidroe says:

    I can only hope and pray that Barr and Durham are Investigating Fusion -GPS and Crowdstrike. They need to be brought down.

  59. Bogeyfree says:

    Why does everyone just assume both Pientka and Strzok created/authored the 302’s on Flynn?
    From what we have read nobody signed the 302’s so how do we really know?
    Ask yourself why has Pientka never been called before any congressional committee like Strzok has? Why has no one heard one word from Pientka? Why does it seem like they are hiding or protecting Pientka?
    Maybe it is time to look at the possibility that Strzok created one of the 302’s but maybe an actual FIB field agent DID NOT create the other 302.
    Even though their letter from yesterday said the “other agent” notes, why should we believe they meant Pientka?
    What we have learned is never trust these folks.
    I hope Sidney not only does a handwriting analysis for Strzok and his notes but also compares the handwriting of Pientka and “other agents” closely connected with Strzok because something is telling me the other agent who authored the other 302 may not be the one everyone is thinking about.

    • Doesn’t it seem like Ms. Powell has an inside source. Also HOW DID SHE GET NEW STROZK PAGE TEXTS RELEASED?.
      Am I incorrect that they were new? I’ve asked 3x and no one on this page has addressed it.
      SD? Help?

      • icndark says:

        IIRC, the newly revealed text messages were produced as the result of a FOIA lawsuit, but I can’t remember who filed the suit(not Judicial Watch).

    • willthesuevi says:

      To answer your handwriting question, bogey, Sundance laid it all out to Counselor Powell on twitter.
      I may be incorrect but, Sundance and another Treeper had all that put together and covered within hours or heck maybe minutes after the Liu – on behalf of Van Grack notification.
      You can find it on “The Last Refuge2” twitter feed. Have to scroll way way down.

    • zurizara says:

      An interesting take. Powell did say she will ask for handwriting samples.

    • De Oppresso Liber says:

      It’s old news that the Page-Strzok texts discussed Page editing the 302’s, having them approved by McCabe, and the Strzok text: “Launch on 302’s!” which obviously means enter the edited forms as the original/official form(s).
      One night last week, maybe Friday, on Lou Dobbs’ show, Ms. Powell affirmed that she had “a very highly placed and reliable source” within the DOJ.

  60. elsuperbus says:

    The blackmail is definitely strong in that one.

  61. Zippy says:

    Victor Pinchuk, the Clintons & Endless Connections
    March 11, 2018
    https://themarketswork.com/2018/03/11/victor-pinchuk-the-clintons-endless-connections/
    Dimitry Alperovich – the CEO of Crowdstrike that “investigated” the hacking of the DNC’s servers is a Non-Resident Senior Fellow at Atlantic. The FBI was refused access to independently examine the DNC servers. Interestingly, Alperovich’s bio appears to have been disabled.
    The Crowdstrike findings have been repeatedly called into questioned:
    A New Report Raises Big Questions About Last Year’s DNC Hack – forensics indicate that DNC emails were copied by an insider via USB and not hacked via external actors.
    Intel Vets Challenge ‘Russia Hack’ Evidence – DNC data was copied onto a storage device at a speed that far exceeds an Internet capability for a remote hack. Forensics show that the copying was performed on the East coast of the U.S.
    New Questions Over Claim Russia Hacked the Election – Cybersecurity experts who were first to conclude that Putin hacked presidential election abandon some of their claims against Russia – and refuse to co-operate with Congress.
    James Clapper – Obama’s Director of National Intelligence, serves on the Atlantic Council’s International Advisory Board. Clapper was the architect of the report on Russian Election Interference – Assessing Russian Activities and Intentions in Recent U.S. Elections.
    I encourage you to read the report. I think you’ll find it surprisingly lacking in detail – highly generalized with very little in the way of substance.
    The report was technically created by a joint effort between the CIA (former Director John Brennan), FBI (former Director James Comey) and the NSA (current Director Mike Rogers) – and assembled by the DNI (former Director James Clapper).
    The joint report contains one significant caveat:
    CIA and FBI have high confidence in this judgment; NSA has only moderate confidence.
    Actually, NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers stated in Senate hearing testimony that his confidence did not reach even this threshold:
    “I wouldn’t call it a discrepancy, I’d call it an honest difference of opinion between three different organizations and in the end I made that call.…It didn’t have the same level of sourcing and the same level of multiple sources.”
    In essence, the DNI’s report was constructed by just three men – former DNI Director Clapper, former CIA Director Brennan and former FBI Director Comey.

    • Zippy says:

      There is plenty of evidence within within relevant files associated with the DNC “hack” that someone was trying to make it LOOK like Russians had done it.
      Also, the only agency that could trace retroactively any remote internet connections to the DNC server would be the NSA. HOWEVER, I assume since their traces could only involve incoming IP addresses FROM a foreign machine while not being able to trace any connection made TO that machine, with the actual hacker’s machine in, say, the UKRAINE, and the compromised machine being remotely controlled and used for the hack being located in, say, RUSSIA, the NSA, without the “multiple sources” (ALL BOGUS) of the FBI and CIA could not be certain of the ACTUAL origin of the attack since neither Russia nor the Ukraine would be willing to provide the needed tracing information from within their own internal internet networks. That would be why NSA’s Rogers had reservations.
      In short, hackers don’t stupidly use their own machines to directly execute a major hack. They work through another potentially far distant machine they have compromised and then eliminate their traces within that machine. At least from what I’ve read.

  62. 1riot1ranger says:

    I guess Strozk was trying to work his way up to FBI Director. Or CIA Director one. Strange how the fickle hand of fate intervenes

  63. bofh says:

    I remain intrigued by the Crowdstrike involvement, and their big-money IPO only 5 months ago. AFAIK, in the past IPO’s have been delayed or cancelled due to mere whiff’s of impropriety. And the Associate Director of the Enforcement Division at the SEC is… Mama Strzok (AKA Melissa Hodgman)! So, even as recently as five months ago she didn’t sniff anything funny about Crowdstrike? Asking for a friend…

    • Mike Robinson says:

      “Everything is ‘funny’ about Crowdstrike, if you interpret the word as a synonym for “nonsense.” It’s absurd to base an investigation, much less bring charges, based on the criminals’ own paid-for assessment (sic) of a server no one has actually seen. Like any other critical piece of criminal evidence, you’ve got to have it in your hot little hands so you can take it apart and see for yourself.
      “They say there was this server … but how do we actually know … that it ever existed?” Remember, you are entitled to see and to examine the evidence that is being used against you.

      • bofh says:

        For that matter, a virtual server looks a lot like a physical one when you’re just hitting it from the other end of the wire. Or, as you say, the whole thing could just be nothing more than a convenient story to advance their narrative.

      • Proving a negative is always an uphill lift. It’s hard to prove a server existed, if it didn’t.

        • MelH says:

          It was examined by some Techie from our side who could tell that the speed at which the download from the “Server” happened was too quick for it to be a “hack”. Rather, only a thumb drive transfer could have happened that fast. I remember seeing the techie’s name several times . It was that examination that proved the Server was not hacked by the Russians. Since Seth Rich worked with the DNC, it was assumed it was he who had the access and could have transferred the server contents to a thumb drive he then gave to Assange, moments before he was gunned down in the street, just like Andrew Breitbart.

  64. Troublemaker10 says:

    Dana Rohrabacher recently became a board member for Bud Trader. He could simply be on the Hill lobbying for national cannabis legalization.
    If his visit had anything to do with Barr/Durham investigation he would be visiting the DOJ, not congress, wouldn’t he?
    It’s possible he was asked to discuss Assange info with some congressional members. I wouldn’t rule it out. Who knows what some, like Nunes, have discovered. However, I lean more towards lobbying efforts right now.

  65. Sentient says:

    The president should pardon Assange late on a Friday afternoon, UK time so that the Brits might accidentally release him before their own intelligence rushes in to stop his release. Let him get swept away to the only safe country for him on the planet. Where Snowden is.

  66. Screaming Eagle says:

    Timing of events exposes motives. Right after the Mueller fraud was shared, they suddenly pull Assange out of that embassy and lock him away. I feared for him then, even more now. Hope he has some insurance stowed away in multiple sources that gets released in the event of an unfortunate accident. Probably the only reason he hasn’t been Epstein’d yet. FBI, DNC, DOJ, CIA, desperately need to keep the Russian hack hoax and Crowdstrike BS alive. Its the lynchpin on which the whole hoax was built and now teeters. I am sure the CIA has been torturing Julian since they locked him away, trying to crack the secret and his methods to tell the world in the event of an Arkancide. Remember, hilly suggesting bombing him with drones?

  67. Right to reply says:

    Hillary’s basement server. Was she giving direct access to China/Ukraine in return for money? China/Ukraine appear to be the key beneficiaries of these people

  68. covfefe999 says:

    Do you think Manu Raju knows or remembers the link between Rohrabacher and Assange?

  69. Maquis says:

    Sundance, the helicopter crash article you cited is not entirely clearly written but I don’t see it actually affirming that Russia Deputy AG Karapetyan “plummeted to his death” separately from and prior to the helicopter itself, rather it says he “plummeted to his death” in a helicopter accident. Again, the verbiage is somewhat tortured in an apparently clickbait friendly sensationalist fashion. It doesn’t clearly assert that his body was found in the wreckage, but it doesn’t state that it wasn’t found there, or anywhere in particular, either.
    The oddity of the crash was that the flight was undertaken by an experienced pilot in extremely poor flying conditions and the flight was not authorized, ultimately crashing in a mountainous area, which obviously can happen without plummeting, one can thus be flying straight and level in clear air, until the mountain intervenes by refusing to yield way. That the flight was undertaken in this fashion in these conditions does seem to invite speculation as to what motivated it, as well as whether the mountain was the only meany involved…

  70. jus wundrin says:

    “The whitehouse wants to know everything”
    ~ Strzok
    Time to get orchestra leader 0Bomba on the stand……after F’n joe

  71. California Joe says:

    Assange would be a lot safer here under the custody of Barr and Durham than dangling out to dry in a UK prison. I’m assuming that Barr would have him in a secure place where he wouldn’t be tempted to Epstecide himself!

  72. If Julian Assange knows anything why not release it years ago. What is he waiting for. This shows me Julian Assange has nothing to release. No knows nothing about the DNC hacking.

    • Mike says:

      Assange knows how he obtained the leaked DNC and Podesta material. He claims it did not come from Russia or a surrogate of Russia. He also announced a reward for information relating to how and why Seth Rich was killed. If the Russians did not hack the DNC and Podesta, then the entire Russia narrative collapses like a house of cards.

    • Justin Green says:

      Assange is no huge fan of the US. He’s not American. His mission was transparency.
      At this point, he definitely knows where they got the material, which we know they published on their website, and which source he has yet to officially reveal.
      So he definitely knows something. And he probably is a bit more concerned about not experiencing an assisted suicide than saving America right now.

    • MelH says:

      Assange has leverage because he was the Receiver of the Clinton e-mails from the DNC Server. He was also going to be indicted by the USA for revealing something Classified. he offered to Trump a reveal of the source of the e-mails if he would be promised asylum here. He still owns that leverage, as far as we know, but at the time of the offer, Trump said he didn’t know much about Assange and he was not tnclined to offer asylum. We heard nothing about Rohrbacker maybe informing Trump that Assange could be Trump’s trump card against the Russian Hoax narrative.

  73. Laramie Evan says:

    I took issue with the coverage of the erroneous misattribution of Strzok’s notes to Pietka, and vice-versa (separate comment to that article). Not everything is a conspiracy. Occam’s razor: Human error.
    Not so here. Vis-a-vis Assange, everything points to a concerted effort to keep him quiet. All the coincidences go one way:
    1. Assange says the DNC server was not hacked by Russians. Assange has never been shown to be a liar (a claim our Intel services can’t make);
    2. The DNC refused to produce the server for inspection;
    3. Our governments issues an extremely sketchy (ridiculous, really) ICA in which 3 agencies conclude with “high confidence” that Russia hacked the server, even though they never examined the server. (The fourth, DNI, simply felt it was “likely.”) I spent a bit of time on this because it really is the smoking gun of an effort to distract. If you understand what ICAs are, you understand that this can’t possibly happen “unrigged.” (Read “Superforecasting” for great background on what ICAs are today.)
    4. An independent group of former intelligence professionals (VIPS) issues a report conclusively demonstrating that the server could not have been hacked “from the outside,” meaning the information could only have been stolen by someone with direct, physical access to the server (e.g., Seth Rich, or those 5 Pakistani IT employees whose crimes were covered up).
    There’s more, but let’s look at the Assange indictment. When you read it, he’s accused of attempting to help Manning break cryptographically secure passwords. It’s an astonishingly transparent indictment. If you know IT security and how passwords are stored, the idea that they were going to break 256-bit encrypted passwords is beyond ludicrous. They accuse him of using a sophisticated tool to do so: The Linux Operating System (free to all; it runs a majority of servers worldwide). It’s a piece of trash.
    All coincidences? Maybe, but that’s not the way the smart money bets.
    Again, Occam’s razor. What’s the simple explanation? There was no hack. Assange is telling the truth. That’s why the DNC wouldn’t produce the server and the FBI didn’t subpoena it. The ‘Russia collusion’ narrative needed to be bolstered another way, hence the ICA report. The VIPS report utterly refutes that so . . . ignore it. Shut up Assange and the media can continue ramming this Russia collusion down a gullible public’s throats.

    • Jederman says:

      Everything you stated is plausible/likley. I’m holding the line on 302 shenanigans. IMO, given the credibility issues of the mueller crew and associated DoJ straphangers, I don’t believe it was an honest mistake.
      The question then is, what is Rohrabacher’s play in all this? What are his motivations? Has he moved the ball forward?

    • bofh says:

      “They accuse him of using a sophisticated tool to do so: The Linux Operating System (free to all; it runs a majority of servers worldwide). It’s a piece of trash.
      Hey! Hey… are you talking about Linux or about the ICA?

      • fred5678 says:

        I resent that possible insult also. I was writing device drivers for UNIX back in 1978 — lovely to work in environment, but not “secure” by a mile. Later kernel secure versions did that. BTW — UNIX source code ans site license from ATT Bell Labs cost $40,000 in 1978, with zero support.

    • My interpretation – as someone who has performed (non-criminal) computer forensics investigations before – is that there really isn’t credible evidence that this server existed, much less that it was “hacked,” much much less by “Russians.”
      The only thing that we actually know is that a certain quantity of said-to-be authentic messages wound up on WikiLeaks. And, we also know that the FBI quite-inexplicably accepted a so-called “analysis” proffered by a company paid-for by the very same people who most stood to benefit from their claim. Finally, we know that several Federal agencies who are supposed to know better signed-on to this entire thing, leaving only the ever-honorable Admiral Rogers to refuse to soil his hands with it.
      There is absolutely nothing in all of these events which even slightly matches the standards required of an actual forensic investigation … as Adm. Rogers perfectly well knew, and as everyone in our business also knows. As Baby Herman quipped on Who Framed Roger Rabbit, “this whole thing stinks like yestahday’s diahpers!” ?

  74. Doug Amos says:

    Is there any chance that we, the people, can retain and fund a lawyer for Julian? Her name starts with Sydney.

  75. 2Alpha says:

    Made this one early 2107… We had lots of laughs…
    https://i.imgur.com/UZIyxp6.jpg

  76. MLK says:

    “Former GOP Rep. Dana Rohrabacher spotted in the Capitol”
    Fun! I was wondering about the appearance of this focused on Prince Andrew earlier today, now I have my answer:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQQV_hXNHoc

    • disgustedwithjulison says:

      No mention of the passenger on 26 Lolita Express flights to Pedo Island by 60 Minutes in this teaser…..diverting attention away from the homeland and to the UK instead?

  77. Zy says:

    Rohrbach might be in DC to say hello to old friends. Couldn’t be too many friends in the DC contingent from CA except Nunes.

  78. omyword says:

    His name was Seth Rich.

  79. clodfobble says:

    BFD. Deep staters have a meeting. Wow… maybe the are plotting another coup. Barr is King, Lindsey is Queen and Schiff is the Joker.

  80. fred5678 says:

    Just WHO is the invisible Puppet Master in all of this, quietly coordinating Deep Staters, Lawfare, Fake News, et al ???
    I vote for ValJar the Basement Dweller.

  81. At this point, I simply want these professionals to be timely reaching the proper end to their extremely important work. I want to see the IG Report published, with a minimum number of redactions, and I want to see Durham’s prosecutorial investigations begin to bear fruit.
    I don’t want either effort to compromise quality in the name of expediency, but I feel that enough time has now passed that we should reasonably begin to see the Sword of Damocles fall upon certain people’s heads.

  82. Cheesehead54016 says:

    I cannot wait to hear more about the Weiner laptop again and many or all of those 33000 +/- missing emails on the laptop.

  83. Merkin Muffley says:

    I trust Lindsey Graham about as far as I can throw his bottle of KY jelly!

  84. Gela says:

    Wow. Great article. Unfortunately most people know .1 of this and 80 could give a shit..

  85. Margaret Berger says:

    Valjar is the director of operations, sora$$ is the mastermind. He owns it all.
    A death that was too convenient to be true, Breitbart.

  86. Graham Pink says:

    Assange is a dead man walking.
    I wonder if he even realizes it.
    Probably more than Seth Rich did.

  87. noswamp says:

    We all know how this is scripted to end my friends. I hope that Durham can change the course of history and keep Assange alive. If we base this off of the fact that Barr didn’t lift a finger to protect Epstein, then Assange is a dead man walking. Once his fate is confirmed, the deadman switches should be triggered. So what, too late.
    Graham is the ultimate protector of the Deep State, but he wants folks to think he loves Trump. Graham is the TROJAN HORSE. Graham is the snake in Trump’s poem. Graham has done nothing with Judicial, and has indicated that he will step down after the election from his Chairmanship (do nothing, mission accomplished).
    Assange’s end is already scripted to coincide with the Trump impeachment. I don’t know how those two events are connected. But I feel they are.

  88. Filthy Sanchez03 says:

    So what is the signal to open fire? There has been voluminous amounts of information out there for public consumption for years now. Much of it verified and corroborated. Enough to lock some of these traitors up- or at least arrest and send to trial. I know there has to be meticulous gathering of evidence, but how much longer is this going to take? It’s getting really old hearing Republicans spout off their taking points about two-tired justice. Freaking do something about it. Play offense for a change. …history will judge them… how about a jury judging them?

  89. JIM COMEY IS A WEASEL_DOUG says:

    Manure Raju’s tweet was a “heads up” to the Deep Staters. Why else would he single out Dana and tweet about it??? Every day former Congress people are in DC. Why single out Dana?
    I’ll tell you this. I worked on Dana’s campaign in 2018. The Dummycrappers, Harley Rouda specifically, made a HUGE deal out of Dana’s connections to Russia, citing FBI breifling Dana on “Kremlin attempts to recruit” Dana. As if that makes Dana a spy!! The FBI was smearing more than just DJT in 2017.
    I met with Dana a few times. Once, after a fundraiser I asked him specifically about the DNC emails and he told me directly that Seth Rich was the source.
    The DNC and all it’s affiliated groups outspent Dana 10-1 in that campaign. They wanted him out.
    I HATE Harley Rouda’s presence and am working to get his scummy butt out of Congress in 2020.

  90. spinoneone says:

    Let’s not overlook the small matter of the Ukraine. They were the ones who hosted Crowdstrike. That was the investigation POTUS asked Zelensky to re-open or undertake. That investigation would, if it showed everything began and ended in Kyiv, would terminate the entire charade.

  91. tenndon says:

    doing a hatchet job on their own intelligence services…
    We need, not a hatchet, but a full-on Battle Axe taken to out ”intelligence” services.

  92. Mac says:

    Again, do not get bogged down in minutia.
    People tend to want to find an evil genius, a Moriarty, to blame things on. But, that is not what happened in this case. The Establishment; including government, political, economic and simply powerful people; wanted nothing more than to maintain the status quo. They wanted to protect themselves and their lifestyles. To do this, they wanted HRC elected President. And, they were willing to cheat, use illegal measures, to gain what they wanted. So, we had illegal government surveillance of US citizens, within the US. Everything is going swimmingly, except for Servergate, which was a direct threat to HRC and would just not go away.
    Enter the first spoiler, Adm. Rogers. Finding widespread illegal use of the NSA database, authorized out of the FBI, he shuts the door on that access, in early 2016. And, this is where everything starts to go South for the political/government Establishment. Surveillance of the Trump Campaign has to continue. So, the Establishment turns to the agency which is the most experienced in clandestine intelligence gathering, the occasional overthrow of governments, the CIA. The first operation was to use friendly foreign intelligence agencies to continue the electronic surveillance of the Trump campaign. This was accomplished through a one-off with the British GCHQ, the equivalent of the US NSA, which had access to raw NSA data through the Five-Eyes agreement. The second part of the operation was to place a humint source inside the Trump Campaign, The third part of the operation was two-fold: 1) To establish a predicate for the Russian Collusion Theory, in order to open a domestic counter intelligence to gain a Title 1 FISA warrant against a member of the Trump campaign who would supply two-hop access to the whole campaign and 2) to generate false accusations and narratives, against the Trump campaign, to be used politically. Once the predicate was established, the surveillance operation was handed off to the FBK. Remember, at this point, the polls all showed HRC totally dominating Trump. This was all nothing more than an insurance policy, at that point. But, it did not run as anticipated.
    The effort to gain the required FISA warrant ran aground, as the OCONUS operations against Papadopolous and Manafort could not produce credible evidence hat they were foreign agents, a qualifying necessity for the issuance of a Title 1 warrant. At this point, Our Man Strzok texts that they may have to burn one of their assets to gain a warrant. Shortly thereafter, a warrant is sought against Carter Page, who has a long history of association with the FBI and, by his admission, the CIA in clandestine surveillance activities. Even that fails to go well. So, they introduce the Steele Dossier, originally a political document, a fabricated affidavit for cause and, possibly, a sympathetic FISA judge to gain a Title 1 warrant on Page.
    Now, as all ongoing counter intelligence operations, especially ones involving the campaign of a Presidential candidate, are reported to the POTUS, it is logical to assume that the WH, including the POTUS was aware of this whole thing, and allowed or encouraged it to continue.
    But, other organs of government were involved, most especially State. You also have the private sector involved; including the media, political parties, think tanks, economic entities and foreign governments involved.
    So, you have a HUGE universe of important, powerful people involved in this fiasco. And, HRC loses. and with that loss, the umbrella for these operations is lost as well.
    Stick to the main investigative timeline, here. Start with HRC and Servergate. This is the center of the web. Once you know the trigger point, following the threads becomes relatively easy. And, this gives you a multitude of people who can blow the whole thing wide open. All it takes is a single John Dean. But, you need two things to do that: 1) pressure on the weak links and 2) a desire and willingness to actually do it.

  93. moosemalloy says:

    The more things change, the more they stay the same. The link below is to an amazingly informative interview with DC police lieutenant Carl Shoffler, one of the arresting officers of the Watergate burglars. It is VERY relevant to what is happening today. Note how Woodward & Bernstein, John Dean, Richard ben-Veniste, Jill Wine-Banks, Dan Rather, “the 17 Watergate prosecutors”, CIA officials, and many other veterans of the Nixon Silent Coup are feverishly going after Trump. Topics include sexual blackmail, Mossad, Joe Nesline (tied to big time mobsters, NFL gambling, blackmail rackets, Nathan Landow, Heidi Rikan), Steny Hoyer, Carl Bernstein, Maureen Biner, the WAPO etc.
    https://vital.tamuct.edu:8443/vital/access/manager/Repository/vital:2904?site_name=Central+Texas+Historical+Archives&query=Shoffler&root=vital%3A2428&root=vital%3A1243&f0=sm_subject%3A%22Shoffler%2C+Carl%2C+-1996%22&collection=vital%3A1240&sort=ss_dateNormalized+desc%2Csort_ss_title+asc

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