The Predicate: “Russia Interfered in the 2016 Election”?…

Every narrative needs a foundation; every investigation, false or genuine, needs a predicate upon which to launch.  Remove the predicate and everything is exposed.

The predicate is the reason why so much effort was put forth by the conspiring Obama administration; and corrupt intelligence officials; and all political operatives; and the entirety of the mainstream media; to drumbeat that “Russia attempted to interfere in the 2016 election.

Without that predicate forming the motive for all subsequent action, the house-of-cards collapses; everything is exposed.

There is no amount of hindsight manipulation that can cover for a fraudulent basis of origination.  This is one of the reasons why voices like Diana West are so important.  Question the underlying assumption and the entire dynamic changes.

By now the intellectually honest reviewers of information all accept there was no effort from the Trump campaign to collude or conspire with ‘Russians’.  That narrative was always false; even Robert Mueller’s team of lawyers and FBI investigators have conceded their inability to substantiate those Trump-Russia assertions.  There never was any ‘there’ there.  All effort was instead trying to set up the obstruction case.

But further back in the narrative construct, those Trump-Russia assertions are predicated on there actually being some grand conspiratorial attempt by Russia to interfere in the 2016 election.  Without a factual basis for that claim, none of the CIA, FBI and DOJ-NSD operations hold any validity.

CTH has often stated one of the key ‘tells’ surrounding Rod Rosenstein was his willingness to go forth with grand public proclamations of Russian indictments. However, despite the very thin evidence behind the boisterous and promoted indictment claims, there’s no actual substance to show any interference campaign of any scale that matches the scale of the DOJ’s public protestations.  The reason for the disparity between claims and scale, is the absence of any substantive evidence.

And there’s the “tell”.

In for a penny, in for a pound. Rosenstein had no choice than to go along with Mueller’s team and their thin evidentiary proclamations behind the Russian indictments.  Without those Russian indictments, the background predicate is exposed…. and, as a direct consequence, all of the intelligence operations that are predicated on the ‘Russia Interference‘ premise begin to be exposed.

Without the Russian Interference predicate, why was the CIA running early 2016 operations against the Trump campaign?  Without the Russian Interference predicate why was the July 31st, Crossfire Hurricane operation even begun?  Etcetera… Etcetera… Etcetera…. All of it.

There’s where we find the need for the big lie.

Whenever there’s a need for a big cover-up, there’s always a need for a big lie.

The Russians HAD TO have made efforts to interfere in the election, or else the factual basis for the surveillance operation against candidate Donald Trump is naked to the world.

That’s why so much energy was exhausted framing the predicate.

“Seventeen intelligence agencies”….. The December 29th Joint Analysis Report…. The expulsion of the Russian diplomats which was an outcropping of the JAR…. The rushed January Intelligence Community Assessment…  Shoving microphones in everyone’s faces and demanding they answer if they believed Russia interfered…  All of it, and I do mean every bit of it, is predicated on an absolute need to establish that Russia Attempted to Interfere.

The “Russian Malicious Cyber Activity – Joint Analysis Report” (full pdf below) is pure nonsense.  It outlines nothing more than vague and disingenuous typical hacking activity that is no more substantive than any other hacking report on any other foreign actor.

This might as well be a report blaming Nigerian fraud phone solicitors for targeting U.S. phone numbers.  DUH!  Just because your grandma didn’t actually win that Nigerian national lottery doesn’t mean the Nigerian Mafioso are targeting your employer to hold you accountable for her portion of the bill.

This FBI report is, well, quite simply, pure horse-pucky.

However, what the report does well is using ridiculous technical terminology to describe innocuous common activity.   Example: “ATPT29” is Olaf, the round faced chubby guy probably working from his kitchen table; and “ATPT28” is his unemployed socially isolated buddy living in Mom’s basement down the street.  This entire FBI report is nothing more than a generalized, albeit techno-worded, explanation for how Nigerians, Indians, or in this case Russians, attempt to gain your email passwords etc., nothing more.


As time went on, and as the Clinton-Steele dossier was revealed, the 17 agency Intelligence Community Assessment (ICA) grew even weaker.  In late October 2017 former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper admitted the Clinton-Steele dossier was part of the ICA.  Eventually, our research indicated the dossier and the intelligence report were likely the underlying evidence behind the FISA Title-1 application for surveillance on Carter Page and by extension the Trump campaign.

Later we discovered our independent suspicions appeared to be exactly what House Intelligence Committee Devin Nunes was also investigating.

(Via New York Post) […]  After learning Obama Justice and FBI officials relied heavily on unsubstantiated rumors in the dossier to wiretap a Trump adviser during the election, congressional leaders now suspect the dossier also informed Obama intelligence officials who compiled the ICA.

The report was released Jan. 6, 2017 — the same day intelligence officials attached a written summary of the dossier to a highly classified Russia briefing they gave Obama about the dossier, and the day after Obama held a secret White House meeting to discuss the dossier with his national-security adviser and FBI director.

Staff investigators for GOP Rep. Devin Nunes’ intelligence committee, for one, are now going over “every word” of the ICA — including classified footnotes — to see if any of the analysis was pre-cooked based on the dossier.

[…]  The Defense Intelligence Agency, Homeland Security, State Department’s intelligence bureau and other agencies with relevant expertise on Russia were excluded, in violation of normal rules for drafting such assessments. And in another departure from custom, the report is missing any dissenting views or an annex with evaluations of the conclusions from outside reviewers.

US intel veterans suspect the administration “manipulated” the process to reach a “predetermined political conclusion” in order to delegitimize Trump.  (read more)

Take the ‘Russia Attempted to Interfere’ predicate away and what becomes visible behind the lifting-fog is an extensive multi-agency operation, encompassing multiple intelligence institutions and all three branches of government, to conduct political operations under the guise of counterintelligence.  Yes, that’s what was factually taking place.

The Russian Interference narrative is the larger cover story.

It’s time to stop accepting it.

♦ Prove the July 31st, 2016, Crossfire Hurricane operation originated from fraud by exposing the CIA operation that created the originating “Electronic Communication” memo.  Declassify that two-page “EC” document that Brennan gave to Comey.

♦ Reveal the November 2015 through April 2016 FISA-702 search query abuse by declassifying the April 2017 court opinion written by FISC Presiding Judge Rosemary Collyer.  Show the FBI contractors behind the 85% fraudulent search queries. [Crowdstrike? Fusion-GPS? Nellie Ohr?]

♦ Subpoena former DOJ-NSD (National Security Division) head John Carlin, or haul him in front of a grand jury, and get his testimony about why he hid the abuse from the FISA court in October 2016; why the DOJ-NSD rushed the Carter Page application to beat NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers to the FISA court; and why Carlin quit immediately thereafter. Squeeze this bastard’s nuts in the proverbial legal vise.

♦ Prove the Carter Page FISA application (October 2016) was fraudulent and based on deceptions to the FISA Court.  Declassify the entire document, and release the transcripts of those who signed the application(s); and/or depose those who have not yet testified.

♦ Release all of the Lisa Page and Peter Strzok text messages without redactions.  Let sunlight pour in on the actual conversation(s) that were taking place when Crossfire Hurricane (July ’16) and the FISA Application (Oct ’16) were taking place.

♦ Release all of Bruce Ohr 302’s, FBI notes from interviews and debriefing sessions, and other relevant documents associated with the interviews of Bruce Ohr and his internal communications. Including exculpatory evidence that Bruce Ohr may have shared with FBI Agent Joseph Pientka.  [And get a deposition from this Pientka fella]

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261 Responses to The Predicate: “Russia Interfered in the 2016 Election”?…

  1. FishtheDish says:

    What I am struggling with is the many components of this hoax. Spies, FISA court abuse (lawyers and judges), special counsel, DNC campaign, set-ups, gang of eight, all 3 branches of government, media, …… This type of operation requires a coordinated organization, who’s doing what to whom, status meetings, updating plans, etc. This requires a leader with a tight team. Quite frankly the execution was pretty damn good. I think that if not for the discovery that Hillary’s campaign/DNC had paid for the dossier – and probably some underground whistle blowers this would have worked. Oh – I would add Trump’s uncharacteristic patience to keep his hands off of Mueller and thus avoid obstruction.

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    • Mrs. E says:

      How is patience “uncharacteristic of Trump”? He is disciplined and can be very patient; he credits to his years in military school. The art of the deal takes both patience and discipline – to walk away and to wait for the deal. No, patience is one of his characteristics.

      Do not confuse wanting to accomplish a lot with impatience.

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      • Lorraine Kenter says:

        I agree, Mrs. E. Probably most people would have thrown up their hands and walked away long before this. Pres Trump keeps plugging away. That is a combination of strength, stubborness, great work ethic AND patience.

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      • rayvandune says:

        Excellent observation. Brings to mind this quote from Joseph Heller:
        “There’s a fine line between an attitude problem, and thinking clearly.”

        Or, as I would rephrase it for this context::
        “Do not confuse clarity of thought with a bad attitude.”

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      • TeeJay says:

        I’m sure that Fish meant “uncharacteristic patience” compared to most other people. And that Trump has in spades. I notice he allows ample time for his cabinet members to prove they’re on board with his agenda, but at a certain point he cuts them loose if they don’t produce for him. Patient but decisive!


      • FishtheDish says:

        Probably projecting my own impatience into the equation. That took some serious discipline – a businessman who is used to making things happen mired in the government morass. it would have take 5 or 6 lawyers to hold me back…


    • dd_sc says:

      They have been working their way up the Swamp food chain together since the Clinton administration in the 90’s. These FBI agents know which DOJ and FISC personnel to go to in order to get warrants etc… approved, and key people are placed at potential choke points in the system. Once a big fish like Brennan starts the process, the program proceeds through the system.

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      • madeline says:

        I live near Chicago, and I have always thought Mayor Blagovick was set up in a similar way as PDT, only on a much small scale. He certainly was a compromised guy in many ways, however, this spygate plan could have happened to many people over the last 20-30 years. That must be one of the factors causing so many to not wanting exposure. Many other entrapment schemes could be exposed once this is unlocked to the elements.

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    • TPW says:

      big question for Mueller during testimony is did he inspect the servers directly if not whar was his evidence …..then haul that contracted group who supposedly inspected servers in to testify then let the fun begin….please all we need to forward this article to interested parties.

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  2. Paul Vincent Zecchino says:

    “If you don’t like the answers you’re getting, check your premises.”
    – ‘Jesse Stone’ (Tom Selleck)

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  3. dawg says:



    She was using an UNSECURE Blackberry IN MOSCOW, years ago. I think Russia AND China had likely both hacked HER device/server/network a LONG time ago.

    She was totally compromised.

    Then, John Podesta clicked on a phishing link scam in an email years ago, and that morphed into “Russia hacking into Dems”.

    Somewhere along the way Presidential Candidate Donald J Trump made a joke about “maybe Russia can find her deleted emails.”

    Then they thought,
    “Now we will just blame it on Trump!”

    Hillary broke the laws regarding handling and transmitting classified info and, yadda yadda yadda, “Trump colluded with Russia”.

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    • Realist says:

      Actually all roads lead back to Bath House Barry Hussein Soetero Obama.

      Liked by 2 people

    • Mrs. E says:

      I think hillary is Mrs. Pay-to-Play. I think that is why she setup her email; to avoid detection, and to communicate with those whom she should not contact.

      Liked by 7 people

    • AmericaFirst says:

      That facetious “Russia if you have them, apparently our own intelligence can’t find them, please share” off-the-cuff comment was made LONG after Hillary’s illegal basement server had been discovered by congressional committees, dismantled, and seemingly spirited away to outer space, since to this day the FIB has STILL not examined for themselves HRC’s server. Possibly they agreed to helpfully destroy it along with Mills’ laptop?

      At the moment Candidate Trump made this comment, in the middle of a campaign rally, it was well known that the server had already been dismantled. Yet the MSM jumped on the comment as proof that the Trump crowd had “colluded” [still not a crime] with Russia. Why? Because they knew if they pushed it the lo-fos would believe it; they were right.

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    • Mrs. E says:

      hillary is Mrs. Pay-to-Play; everything she did was by design, to avoid detection. Her blackberry, her email, etc. She was selling to the highest bidder. It was treasonous, and an investigation should be taking place.


    • yy4u says:

      dawg — I agree. We are expected to believe the Russians were able to hack into the DNC servers but NOT an insecure, private server the Sec State was using out of her HOME. It strains belief but then most of what the MSM and their Dem cohorts tell us strains belief.

      I think this is what FBI resource Mifsud was talking about when he told Papadopoulos “the Russians have Hillary’s emails”. Nothing to do with the DNC emails. Mifsud told Papadopoulos about the Emails in APRIL 2016. Wikileaks published the emails in JUNE I think. So unless Mifsud knew about the DNC breach two months before Wikileaks published them (Somebody check my dates but I think I’m right) he was talking about Sec State emails.


    • aumechanic says:

      how much u wanna bet that phishing scheme was done thru a child porn site?


    • Bruce Davis says:

      A very well investigated and well thought out expose of the Clinton hack . Well worth a read.

      Liked by 1 person

  4. dave casper says:

    Vengeance is mine Sayeth the Lord, but a little justice now would be nice.

    Liked by 1 person

  5. Trump's Hammer says:

    It should alarm everyone at how stupid the public is regarding this topic – just how easily the public was manipulated by the media.
    There was election meddling. It’s documented. It’s not a crime, and we engage in it all the time in other countries.
    SD pointed out years ago, Nigel Farage introduced Trump at one of his rallies. THERE – if this were a crime, it’s all on tape. But of course the public would scratch their heads and wonder wtf… so you hear crickets about this verified foreign influence of the eventual presidential winner.

    They investigated a non-crime, but the public was convinced it was a crime and impeachable at that.

    When will the news media actually report, investigate, question the legitimate election interference that was happening right here in the USA via weaponized intelligence agencies?? When will they wonder about the abuse of power?


    That will be the day they’ll cease to be fake news.


  6. John Charles says:

    I would like to add one more thing to look at. See how the other campaigns were treated, particularly Sanders’ campaign. If they illegally used the Intelligence community community assets to spy on the Trump campaign it goes to reason they were doing it to other candidates. If it’s proven they were spying on other campaigns it’s pretty much game over. There’s no way to justify wholesale misuse of the intelligence community to spy on your political opponents.

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    • rayvandune says:

      With respect, I had the same thought, but then questioned it with the realization that pretty much everybody else was a politician. That would mean Hillary had the goods on them already.
      But I suspect she needed the goods on Trump to make sure, and needed them fast, since he became a realistic alternative comparatively suddenly. So she decided to follow Commander Ripley’s advice in “Alien”…”Take off and nuke the site from orbit.” That means she used the Big One in her arsenal: the US Intel Community!


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  10. Mark Hudson says:

    Each of the “senior” members of this entire conspiracy must have their own reasons why they would perpetuate a lie of this magnitude on the country. What was so egregious that was done during the Obama administration that a core group needed this level of “insurance” to make sure Hillary won or Trump could not?
    I believe that Benghazi, Uranium One, hell- probably Fast and Furious could all be reasons why these scumbags went “all-in” on this.
    I want to see it all.

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    • Tl Howard says:

      I believe you’re right. An iconoclastic outsider who had already criticized the intel community as well as other agencies, someone they feared could not be counted on to follow SWAMP RULES, had different folks worrying about all kinds of things.

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  11. This “Grand Plan” is like a strategy to win the Indy 500 when you do not have a car entered. None of it could have ever worked without the Four Whoremen of the Apocalypse, Burke, Zucker, Thompson and Bezos and the horses they rode in on, NBC, CNN, NYT & WAPO.

    Even if all of the players in the DOJ, FBI, etc. are exposed it will not prevent this outrage from happening again unless their partners in crime are somehow fully exposed with them.


    • Deplorable_Vespucciland says:

      How do you expose those who are themselves the gatekeepers of information broadcasting? Better to just let them wither on the vine and go away. Fortunately, the days of people relying on the mainstream media for news are long gone.
      RIP Fake News.


    • Jederman says:

      You’re right. RU “trying” to interfere in our elections meh, flimsy at best, and it’s not like the U.S has not tried it, obama most recently in Israel.

      Connecting it to PT would require some very heavy lifting. They didn’t even come close. Their scheisse is out there flapping in the breeze.


  12. dbobway says:

    I just spent 4 days with a dear friend, a 70 year old retired pharmacist.
    I watches msnbc 8 to 12 hours a day. He is smart and full of common sense,
    And he believes every thing msnbc is saying.

    I just got to the edge of the weeds with him about what is happening, and stopped right there.
    If my good friend knew the truth, he would be enraged and betrayed.
    So he asked some questions,
    1) Popular vote: I didn’t mention fraud, but I told him the President won 85% of the counties in the election. That hit him pretty hard. then,
    2) He started asking me to name names: I started with Comey, McCabe and then he hit me with, ‘What about Clinton? I brought up the Russian millions to the Clinton charity and speeches and uranium 1. He had a strong retort to to my answer, saying all these items were being reported incorrectly.
    So I failed to even touch the fact that a country, my friend loves, has leadership in the government attempting to over throw an duly elected President in a country where the exchange of power is one our strongest suits.
    I lost him at that point. I don’t do well with fiction replacing fact, involving treason.
    The point is he is completely indoctrinated in ‘Trump is an unmitigated jerk,
    And has no business being President.
    I believe our discussion hurt our relationship.

    If we don’t take these seditious people down, and I mean the full throat of the law, down.
    This will lead to Americans taking sides again like we did in 1860. Which was as unnecessary then as it is now.
    The truth will set us free.
    The left believe their supporters won’t do that, and it will be too late.

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    • TheLastDemocrat says:

      Sad but true story.

      This points to the concept of “the social construction of truth.”

      For much of what we know, we don’t know it by direct experience. Instead, we know it because we have been informed of what is truth. Frankly, I have never looked at an atom of oxygen or of gold to see how many electrons it has, and what orbits they might travel in.

      Frankly, I have only seen a bit of any election. Sure. I have been at the county building watching ballot boxes come in. Literally. After having worked at the polls, and or done sound car, yard signs, and other GOTV.

      I have never seen Congress in meeting, although sure I have seen a few congressmen.

      And, what I know of these things has come through conversations with others, a general concept of the big picture, my public education, my college education, the encyclopedia, and of media sources of information.

      I have met one or two FBI agents, and I watched the Davidian Compound incident as it was broadcast live.

      So, largely, what I know, and what I think of all of these things, has been formulated and composed via social avenues.

      We tend to think that these sources of knowledge are valid, but we are beginning to see how they can be biased, or erroneous, altogether.

      It is sad that people are playing with this social construction of knowledge for political opportunism, at our expense. Countries have been lost as they figured out how to play this game. China, as far as I know (I have heard from missionaries – including people I knew pretty well before they went to China), is an oppressive place. Venezuela is falling, I hear. I do hear first hand on Israel, and so on. But those first hand sources get incorporated with what I already “know,” to form the composite picture I believe.

      It is sad. We all must be more cynical. A good thing may be that we all figure out ways to reduce the false “information.” Like people saying there is no border crisis, or that walls don’t work.

      Or, “there is no voter fraud.” I might hav ea few ideas on a few problems, but overall we are just getting a really big education right now, at this point in history.

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    • yy4u says:

      I go through the same thing with my son, a very smart, highly educated young man who believes the MSM. He believes Trump is the cause of the high cost of health care (we don’t discuss that his health care was affordable before ObamaCare). He believes the economy is in the tank. He does not think there is a problem with illegal border crossings, he thinks the problem of illegal immigration all comes from visa overstays. In short, this very smart man with a high IQ has been brainwashed by the media. I don’t try to correct him because, as you found out with your friend, it would be damaging to our relationship and nothing is worth that. I do worry about him and his children because I know unless he and a lot of others catch on to the truth, the USA he’ll live in when he’s my age will more resemble a Third World country of today than the USA of 50 years ago. It’s sad what the media have done.

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      • TheLastDemocrat says:

        Sad. This inability to discuss civics with others is part of the strategy to advance this agenda.

        As I have noted before in various rants, the Progs operate like a cult. To a cult, the world is divided into the virtuous few who have received the right knowledge, and the rest of the world. The Rest of Us are either ignorant / unenlightened, or evil.

        So, your family member decides they are going to enlighten you. If you do not listen and genuflect to their Knowledge, they start to perceive that you are beyond Ignorant, and are Evil. Or, at least participating in Evil. Like “so-called Christians participating in Halloween.”


      • dbobway says:

        I want to have a short concise answer for every ‘myth’ the left spins. Healthcare is such a scam, I could write a book of whats bad about it. That was before Obama made it worse and harder to change.
        Climate change is the elephant in the room. We’ve been told fairy tales all our lives warning us about, crying wolf and the sky is falling. I’ll bet they’ve been banned at the school library. A girlfriend of mine states, “Earth deserves better than humans.”
        That statement reminds me how ‘Jim Jones’ talked 900+ people to commit suicide.


  13. Phil says:

    We need prosecutions so this doesn’t happen again. We need many of the key players in Jail for decades. We also need the IRS operatives that went after conservative donors put in jail. I knew of a wealthy doctor that donated 10k to a PAC and the IRS threatens him into paying an extra 100k in taxes or else. His tax attorney told the best option was to pay it. There was corruption in all departments in the Obama administration. This scandal was so big it helped us forget about the others. I really would like to know what they had on Mitt Romeu for him to fold in the last few debates. I would also like to know operations the FBI / NSA/CIA had going on during the 2012 election. I think there’s a lot of skeletons out there they don’t want us to find

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  14. Old Paragrooper says:

    A key indicator that the “Russia, Russia. Russia” cry was a hoax can be obtained by simply listing the Russians named in the Steele Dossier, then listing the Russians named in the Mueller Indictments, and comparing the two lists. (Hint: there is no overlap).

    The GRU may have played a minor role in spreading disinformation during the 2016 election. But the Steele Dossier was fiction from the git go.


  15. Lactantius says:

    Please go back two posts to “Diana West Discusses The Red Thread – Why Did The Administrative State Target Donald Trump?…” which Sundance posted yesterday.

    Please spend the hour to listen to the incisive interview and response of Diana West.

    You will find a great deal of credible research and you will find great questions concerning the “unknowns.” To quote Donald Rumsfeld: “There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don’t know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don’t know we don’t know.”

    That is where we are and most of the comments here seem to be saying what we expect to know or how we expect to uncover what we suspect or ……

    As Diana West brilliantly points out, the “Red Thread” is too omnipresent to be a coincidence.

    Our foundation of of government is being eroded and weakened. “The Deep State” is a reference to those within the government power circle who ignore, mislead or set out to protect a culture of impurity, impunity and corruption.

    Historically, undermining a government in the name of the people is just plain common. It is how new power brokers arise and build their own empires. If we can’t keep the republic we have, a new form of rule will take over. Nature abhors a vacuum.

    On the lintel over the front door of the 1829 courthouse in Palmyra, Virginia is this admonition: “THE MAXIM HELD SACRED BY EVERY FREE PEOPLE – OBEY THE LAWS.”

    The Department of Justice is “ground zero” for cleaning up the ratholes permeating the “Deep State” of our nation. Attorney General William Barr either is the man to do it or he is not.

    Attorney General Barr can follow the very simple outlines of obeying the laws and round up those within the DOJ and FBI who have circumvented the law and pull the corruption of justice out by the roots. The way can be found if the will is strong.

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  16. Doug Amos says:

    Always simplify; the media never does. They overwhelm people with avalanches of rhetoric; basically, turning curiosity seekers into living brain donors. Think Lerner; enabler? Benghazi; enabler? Arab spring; enabler? Fast and Furious; enabler? Hands up; enabler? Dream Act; enabler? Russiagate; enabler? etc, etc In all cases, the answer is the same. It is simple; President Trump and CTH know that; It’s Obama!

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  17. dollops says:

    Sundance, may I humbly offer a comment on usage of “further”. You have followed the herd in confusing conflating it with “farther”; not unpardonable but unfortunate. “Further” takes its meaning from the need for a verb to mean “take farther”. Thus, the adjective is “furthered” – unfortunately and the cause for confusion – shortened to just “further”. Following upon the realisation* that “further” is actually a verb, what need is there to make an adverb based upon a verb? The correct adverb arises from “far” and so we have “farther” which serves in all cases. “She throws the ball further farther than I.”
    *Canadian, eh? I’m sorry.


    • More Covfefe Please says:

      You are making this too complicated and confusing everyone. Give a simple answer, like:

      Farther has to do with distance.

      Further has to do with ideas.

      This, in general, will work.


    • swissik says:

      Thank you. It always bothers me to see grammatical or spelling errors because I believe it takes away value from what is written or said.


  18. Bendix says:

    When disgraced former governor Eliot Spitzer started making noises about getting back into politics, he had a strange run-in with of all people, a Russian prostitute:

    I was accused, on this site, of trying to portray Eliot as some sort of white hat.
    Not so.
    What I do see him as is a loose cannon, who may have inadvertently strayed too far into something he wasn’t supposed to look into.
    Why did we know about Client Number 9 in the first place? Was it because of the FBI?
    “Federal prosecutors rarely charge clients in prostitution cases, which are generally seen as state crimes. But the Mann Act, passed by Congress in 1910 to address prostitution, human trafficking and what was viewed at the time as immorality in general, makes it a crime to transport someone between states for the purpose of prostitution. The four defendants charged in the case unsealed last week were all charged with that crime, along with several others.”

    We know that Mr. Spitzer didn’t do any jail time for that ‘federal crime’.
    Anthony Weiner is another New Yorker who comes to mind, as being charged under a federal law that people committing his sort of offense would not be charged under.

    When looking into something as big as Russiagate, it is best to leave no stone unturned, isn’t it?


  19. Lindenlee says:

    Where are the cowardly Pubby Boys. Hiding. In back room taking $$$ from their “donors”. On vaca in the Cayman. ANYWHERE BUT ON THE FRONT LINES OF BATTLE FOR THE COUNTRY.


  20. JustaVerb says:

    >In for a penny, in for a pound.

    ‘So, Steele’s insertion of the Trump-prostitute-Obama’s-hotel-bed-urolagnia meme was the sharp hook that snagged Washington’s swamp creatures. The Steele dossier was not just spurious in its wild claims about Carter Page eyeing billion-dollar payoffs or a bumbling Michael Cohen in Prague on a secret Trump collusionary mission, it was also so salacious that it served as lurid pornography that supercharged its odyssey throughout the bowels of the Obama government and the media.’ – The Late, Not-So-Great Mueller Investigation – By VICTOR DAVIS HANSON
    March 26, 2019


  21. Tom H says:

    Rush is doing his best to debunk the FBI cover story that the Russia investigation began with Papadoupoulis/Downing meeting. And crushing his friend Chris Wallace in doing so. Rush is pushing the story that the anti-Trump surveillance began when he was a candidate.He’s obviously reading here.

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  22. Mark Frank says:

    “Quite frankly the execution was pretty damn good.”

    No, it wasn´t. We know about it, don´t we?


  23. beachbum31 says:

    Assange could blow the whole Russian election meddling farce up in the face of every Jake Tapper clone out there by simply disclosing who got the million he paid in exchange for Podesta’s email account archive. Betting Olaf already spent it… and that he’s even fatter.


  24. John says:

    Apparently they pulled the same stunt with Silvio Berlusconi and having prostitutes pee on Vladimir Putin’s hotel room bed. It’s not even made up, it’s plagarized.

    Dumbasses aren’t too smart.


  25. beachbum31 says:

    so if the Podesta emails didn’t SURFACE until summer of 2016 via WikiLeaks, how does that impact a FAKE Russian meddling narrative presumably hatched before anybody publicly knew about the leaks? Was it good fortune that lent toward the plot… or was it part of it?


  26. beachbum31 says:

    what strange and ironic fate and existence to be Julian Assange completely stinking up his hosts’ quarters….albeit famous, albeit notorious, albeit influential, albeit imprisoned while Olaf has become wild and crazy Czech!


  27. thegoosefish says:

    And donate to CTH for putting everything together, best as he can.


  28. We the people know says:

    “For the want of a predicate the shoe was lost,
    For the want of a shoe the horse was lost,
    For the want of a horse the rider was lost,
    For the want of a rider the battle was lost,
    For the want of a battle the kingdom was lost,
    And all for the want of a predicate.”
    Benjamin Franklin (changed nail to predicate)


  29. Curt says:

    I’ll state it again. None of this could have been possible without the appointment of Jeff Sessions, the ultimate swamp rat, who immediately turned the “investigation” over to Rosenstein and Mueller.
    Trump, an outsider, was completely taken in by Sessions. Even Trump had no idea the depth of the deep state swamp we are now seeing exposed. I believe the appointment of AG Barr was what brought this insane witch hunt to a close and the Mueller report to be quickly issued. Barr is keeping Rosenstein around for his own reasons. He has no illusions about Rosenstein’s central role in this attempt to bring down a sitting president. Keep your friends close and your enemies closer, as the saying goes. The most dangerous issue we face going forward will be the call, from Democrats and RINOs alike, to drop any further investigation in an effort to expose the treacherous players who have engaged in this activity. Everyone knows this will eventually lead to the very top of the Obama White House. There’s a long way to go here, but hopefully we have turned a corner. This is not the end, but let it be the end of the beginning. Let the light of truth expose the traitors within these government bureaucracies.


  30. Mike Greene says:

    I suspect that in May of 2012, Obama had a spy operation ready to go into operation against Mitt Romney’s campaign. New domestic surveillance rules OK’d by a Federal Judge that month, made it all possible- Trump was just Spygate2 implemented by Obama. to help Hillary defeat Trump.


  31. bigela says:

    one thing im surprised SD didnt mention, that i believe is a significant weakpoint that should be pressed hard, is the whole crowdstrike/server aspect.

    imagine this scenario: when the FBI raided michael cohens office, what if he told them they dont have permission to seize his server & they will only be granted an image/copy of the server to be provided by a private cybersecurity company handpicked by trump & only after that company can go thru the server with a fine tooth comb… then imagine the FBI shrugging their shoulders and simply accepting that absurd notion

    its impossible to miss whats wrong with that scenario. the only people who cant see that are doing so willfully and intentionally because they very much dont want to see it.

    if putin ordered an investigation on his opponent *under any circumstances* the west would denounce him as an authoritarian dictator. imagine if he did so at the most opportune time during an election season and did it based on extremely flimsy tainted “evidence” that putins investigators allowed to break chain of custody…


  32. NoFixedAddress says:


    From your thread this would have to be one of the finest I have read in a long time, well phrased and much appreciated.

    “This might as well be a report blaming Nigerian fraud phone solicitors for targeting U.S. phone numbers. DUH! Just because your grandma didn’t actually win that Nigerian national lottery doesn’t mean the Nigerian Mafioso are targeting your employer to hold you accountable for her portion of the bill.”


  33. Ray says:

    Russia did what they have done for practically a century, commit espionage in the US to undermine however they could.
    They had less effect than a group of canvassers in any case and certainly less than any pac with money.
    It’s probable they changed not a single vote.


    • TPW says:

      They the democrats quickly denounced any notion that Russia actually changed votes WHY……because they do not want to cause an actual investigation into state by State voting irregularities. Simple….because they cheated their ars off….

      Liked by 1 person

  34. Stephen Paul says:

    This is nicely done and explains it well. But me being just an ordinary citizen who follows the news ,even fake news , it has always seemed that the “Russians interfered in the 2016 Presidential election” was BS and all those highly publicized criminal complaints were also BS and looked like they had made them up from various news stories that were also fake. Most of “their evidence” seems to come from private contractors working for Hillary Clinton and the DNC who in turn fed it to the FBI to legitimize it. James Comey testified he took their word for it because they were reputable. But of course around the same time they had been proven to be anything but in an other case where they proved they were making the stuff up to fit a certain narrative. I’m sure other people remember the case. where they claimed the Russians hacked some Ukrainian Military equipment and then the Ukrainian government came out and said it was 100% BS and that they had evidence that it was BS.
    So a very long time ago i was convinced this Russia hacking thing was BS. they needed a Boogie Man and they went around sticking microphones in front of anyone they could to get them on record that they believed it was true. anyone who disagreed was then made out to be a traitor or UN-American.
    So now we can all see they did all this to justify the illegal spying they were doing to manipulate the election and try as hard as they could to swing it for probably the worst candidate in our History. At the same time trying to sell us on the idea that she was the “Best Ever” and “Most Qualified” ever to run. The whole thing is just sickening ,it seems like they have gotten away with it so far and have built a large following of people who buy into the absolute crap they are selling.


  35. Judiciary says:

    Hillary and the DNC paid for the dossier. Hillary’s minion easily pushed it into the Obama administration through multiple angles and agencies including her State Department. They did so by working outside normal channels and protocols. They were all Democrats with a few sympathetic RINOs thrown in. I have a very hard time believing this operation was not a vast left wing conspiracy. That’s no joke.


  36. ScotchEire says:

    US Attorney General Barr
    April 10,2019

    “I think spying did occur. Yes, I think spying did occur. But the question is whether it was predicated, adequately predicated,” Barr said.

    Even Barr reads Sundance !!!!


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