Suspicions Confirmed: Congress Gets Bruce Ohr Documents Showing “Back Door” Communication Network…

According to Chuck Ross reporting: “Congress recently got a trove of Bruce Ohr emails which include exchanges with Chris Steele and others. Source says emails show that Ohr is more significant player in dossier component of FBI/DOJ investigation than originally thought.”

Additionally, John Soloman has an article at The Hill detailing some of the released communication – SEE HERE. Solomon is also saying he will post the leaked documents shortly.

(The Hill) […] They show Bruce Ohr had contact with Steele in the days just before the FBI opened its Trump-Russia probe in summer 2016, and then engaged Steele as a “confidential human source” (CHS) assisting in that probe.

They also confirm that Ohr later became a critical conduit of continuing information from Steele after the FBI ended the Brit’s role as an informant.

“B, doubtless a sad and crazy day for you re- SY,” Steele texted Ohr on Jan. 31, 2017, referencing President Trump’s firing of Sally Yates for insubordination.

Steele’s FBI relationship had been terminated about three months earlier. The bureau concluded on Nov. 1, 2016, that he leaked information to the news media and was “not suitable for use” as a confidential source, memos show.

The FBI specifically instructed Steele that he could no longer “operate to obtain any intelligence whatsoever on behalf of the FBI,” those memos show.

Yet, Steele asked Ohr in the Jan. 31 text exchange if he could continue to help feed information to the FBI: “Just want to check you are OK, still in the situ and able to help locally as discussed, along with your Bureau colleagues.”

“I’m still here and able to help as discussed,” Ohr texted back. “I’ll let you know if that changes.”

Steele replied, “If you end up out though, I really need another (bureau?) contact point/number who is briefed. We can’t allow our guy to be forced to go back home. It would be disastrous.” Investigators are trying to determine who Steele was referring to.  (read more)

CTH is very interested in the Ohr communication, writ large, for several reasons.  One of the things we want to do is overlay the post-election communication between Senator Mark Warner and Lobbyist Adam Waldman (lobbying for Oleg Deripaska) while Waldman was trying to work out communication between Senator Warner and Chris Steele.

Secondly, we listed our suspicions of the communication network of Chris Steele, Fusion GPS (Nellie Ohr) and the DOJ (Bruce Ohr) back in March of this year.  Interestingly, all current indications are those March suspicions are being confirmed.

Here’s the March research and analysis on Bruce and Nellie Ohr:

Senator Chuck Grassley letter to Rod Rosenstein (Page 5, footnote #5) outlines the FBI interviews of twice demoted DOJ Deputy Bruce Ohr:

Ohr FD-302 12/19/16 (interview date 11/22/16);
Ohr FD-302 12/19/16 (interview date 12/05/16);
Ohr FD-302 12/19/16 (interview date 12/12/16);
Ohr FD-302 12/27/16 (interview date 12/20/16);
Ohr FD-302 01/27/17 (interview date 01/27/17);
Ohr FD-302 01/31/17 (interview date 01/23/17);
Ohr FD-302 01/27/17 (interview date 01/25/17);
Ohr FD-302 02/08/17 (interview date 02/06/17);
Ohr FD-302 02/15/17 (interview date 02/14/17);
Ohr FD-302 05/10/17 (interview date 05/08/17);
Ohr FD-302 05/12/17 (interview date 05/12/17);
Ohr FD-302 05/16/17 (interview date 05/15/17).

Notice: DOJ Deputy Bruce Ohr was interviewed after the election four times [November 22nd, December: 5th, 12th, 20th, 2016] by the Obama FBI.

During those four 2016 interviews: President Obama, James Comey (FBI), Andrew McCabe (FBI), Loretta Lynch (DOJ), Sally Yates (DOJ), James Baker (FBI), Peter Strzok (FBI), Lisa Page (FBI), Jim Rybicki (FBI), Mary McCord (DOJ), Mike Kortan (FBI), Bill Priestap (FBI) and David Laufman (DOJ) were all still in place. The Inspector General investigation had not yet begun.


♦ Why was the FBI interviewing Bruce Ohr in 2016?

♦ Who was interviewing Bruce Ohr in 2016?

Possibility/Theory: After candidate Donald Trump won the election the “small group” knew Bruce and Nellie Ohr were both big risks, and weak links.  Additionally, the DOJ needed a back-door conduit to continue access to Christopher Steele after the FBI discontinued formal communication.  Fusion GPS’s Nellie Ohr would be the hub, and Bruce Ohr would likely be the carrier.

If our prior research assumptions are correct, Bruce Ohr and Nellie Ohr were the two key participants at the heart of the raw FBI/NSA database intelligence surveillance ‘gathering‘, and intelligence ‘laundering‘ operation.

When Admiral Mike Rogers shut down contractor access to the NSA/FBI database (April 18th, 2016) the outside group needed a workaround. That’s where DOJ official Bruce Ohr and his wife Nellie Ohr come into play. {Go Deep} The DOJ side of the operation was conducted within the National Security Division (John P Carlin head). {Go Deep} The DOJ-NSD via Bruce Ohr, could use the NSA/FBI database and pass information to, and receive information from, Nellie Ohr.

Nellie was hired by Fusion-GPS immediately after Admiral Rogers shut down the FBI ‘contractor’ use of the system. Nellie would be the go-between. Nellie, working for Fusion GPS, took the raw intel (search results) from Bruce and passed it along to Christopher Steele.

Steele washed the unlawful Ohr raw intelligence by putting it into this “dossier”, and feeding it back into the FBI. The DOJ/FBI then used the laundered intelligence to enhance their FISA Title-1 Surveillance warrant against Carter Page to gain access to the monitor the Trump campaign, legally.

Christopher Steele would never have found anything about Carter Page on his own. Page was a nothing-burger; however, the FBI had previously used Page in a Russian operation.

Part of the raw intelligence the FBI fed to Chris Steele through Nellie Ohr was their intel on Page. When Steele returned the dossier to the FBI the DOJ/FBI could present Steele’s construct of Carter Page to the FISA court as ‘collaborating evidence’.

The goal of all this activity was always the surveillance on Trump. They obtained the FISA-Title1 warrant on October 21st, 2016. All retroactive surveillance was immediately lawful.

Bruce Ohr and Nellie Ohr connect the activity from the DOJ (national security division) and FBI (counterintelligence division) together with Fusion GPS (Nellie’s 2016 employer, Glenn Simpson) and Christopher Steele (the recipient of the unwashed intelligence product).

Remember, the Clinton-Steele Dossier was the primary intelligence product used to get the FISA-Title-1 (near unlimited scope) Surveillance Warrant, on October 21st, 2016.

Now look:

(Nunes Memo)

Now Look:

(ODNI Media Release January 11th, 2017)

  • October 2016 “corroboration was in its infancy.” ~ Bill Priestap (FBI)
  • January 2017 “the IC has not made any judgment that the information in this document is reliable” ~ James Clapper

…Yet somehow on October 21st, 2016 the dossier was valid enough for a FISA warrant? Doesn’t add up. I digress.

Four Corners of the demonstrable justice dept. conspiracy:

  1. Exonerate Clinton
  2. Investigate/execute, IC surveillance of Trump.
  3. Collect and redistribute opposition research of Trump.
  4. The Insurance Policy.

Following the exoneration of Hillary Clinton, the next phase, the “Trump Operation”, was the need for the DOJ/FBI “small group” to have access to surveillance of Hillary Clinton’s political opposition, Donald Trump. This was the U.S. government conducting political opposition research through a weaponized intelligence apparatus (DOJ and FBI).

Within the context of #2 and #3 you’ll note the entry and exit timeline of people connected to the same task is identical. Christopher Steele, hired by Fusion-GPS, enters the timeline at the same time Nellie Ohr is hired by Fusion-GPS (May 2016). Both Christopher Steele and Nellie Ohr exit the activity timeline at the same time as the FBI gets FISA Court “Title 1” surveillance authority over Carter Page, October 21st, 2016.

Everything after October 21st, 2016, when the FBI has “Title 1” surveillance authority over Carter Page and the Trump Campaign, is part of the “insurance policy”. The Title 1 surveillance authority gave the “small group” the tools needed to execute #4, which included the 2017 “Russian Narrative” and the appointment of SC Robert Mueller.

That’s the rough outline. Within the rough outline there are sub-chapters of how it all took place. How it all came together: The ‘dossier’ is a sub-chapter. The FISA warrant is a sub-chapter. Establishing Special Counsel Robert Mueller was a sub-chapter. Etc.

♦Nellie Ohr was needed because she was a go-between from Team Clinton (Fusion GPS) to her husband Bruce Ohr inside the DOJ. Nellie Ohr relayed information into the DOJ and she extracted information from the DOJ that was passed back to Fusion-GPS and by extension Christopher Steele.

Nellie Ohr was a communication transfer hub.

♦Christopher Steele was needed because:

A) the Clinton Team (Fusion GPS) needed to wash their opposition research and have it come out as “Intelligence Product”; and B) the DOJ and FBI needed to present intelligence product to further their insurance policy goal.

The Clinton ‘opposition research,’ turned ‘intelligence product’. was carried by Nellie Ohr to Christopher Steele who then recycled it back to the FBI and DOJ and it was leaked to the media, as needed, to script the Russian narrative. Brennan (CIA) and Clapper (ODNI) could enhance the IC product as needed [See: ‘Russian Election’ – Joint Analysis Report].

The Clinton-Steele Dossier was a collaboration. The FBI and DOJ used the Clinton-Steele Dossier, and leaks from those assembling the Clinton-Steele Dossier, as validation for an October 21st TitleI FISA surveillance warrant on Carter Page.

Three corners of the conspiracy construct relied upon the FISA “Title I” surveillance:

#2) Investigate, execute, IC surveillance of Trump; #3) Collect and redistribute opposition research of Trump; and #4) The Insurance Policy;

All three of those corners relied on the FISA surveillance warrant being granted.

Another example post-election use of the FISA surveillance was how the Intelligence Community positioned the story of Carter Page in April of 2017 to gain the Special Counsel appointment, ie. the Mueller investigation (another false construct.)


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483 Responses to Suspicions Confirmed: Congress Gets Bruce Ohr Documents Showing “Back Door” Communication Network…

  1. gerkenstein says:

    I give 3:1 odds that jBruce Ohr is a Chicom plant anyway. He’s Chinese. he’s clearly a communist.

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  2. gerkenstein says:

    Steele replied, “If you end up out though, I really need another (bureau?) contact point/number who is briefed. We can’t allow our guy to be forced to go back home. It would be disastrous.” Investigators are trying to determine who Steele was referring to.

    Jeff Sessions? LOL

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    • cali says:

      I think it is very important tp look closer at these dates with Ohr:

      @Sundance: Look when the actual interview took place and what date they actually did their 302. It appears that there are some very long periods (one months) before they even write about their interview with Ohr.

      Something does not jive with these FBI notes regarding the actual interviews vs the dates they documented them via the 302.

      Why the time lapses?

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      • This whole FBI method of writing records of meetings at some later date is ridiculous. With all the electronic and digital equipment they use for surveillance on EVERYBODY, why this antiquated method for memos that can be used in a court of law as evidence.

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        • Betty says:

          It is about control,

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        • Crystal says:

          Because it relies on memory, which can be faulty. This also allows them to conveniently dismiss that which might otherwise point to someone’s guilt, especially when that person is held in favor for whatever reason. It also provides them with plausible deniability, as in the case of Comey not attending Hildebeast’s FBI Q&A. Instead, he relied on the notes of “Strock” (who was always in her corner).

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      • Concerned says:

        Because they needed time to rewrite the 302’s. And, to tell those involved, this is your story now.

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        • farrier105 says:

          That can be done much faster than indicated by the dates on the documents. I don’t know if agents can directly compose these FD-302s on their own computers. In the past, the docs were dictated, sent to a room full of stenographers who would type them,. There was lag time depending on the volume of paper being generated.

          I’ve said it before. An FBI office is ordered like a newspaper office. A newspaper has different “desks,” each desk with an editor. You have News, Sports, Local Interests, “Society” pages, etc. An FBI office has SQUADS. Reactive Squad, White Collar Squad, CI Squad, Organized Crime Squad. Each squad has a Supervisor who spends most of his/her time EDITING PAPER.

          You could send a 302 dictation or rough draft to the steno pool. It could be typed and sent to Squad Supervisor in a day or two, or within one hour or less. Anything major on the doc the supervisor did not like could be edited out at that time. If significant, you would be informed about the edit directly. Significant would be something like a key piece of testimony being expunged for some reason, which would put interview notes into question (this is important). Something like “we can’t have this in here,” while it red penciled for the stenos to retype without the offending quotation.

          It doesn’t take a long time to “jack” a document. It could be done in hours, so the length of time is not indicative of “selective editing.” This technique did not originate with this affair.


          • farrier105 says:

            There used to be several dates at the bottom of an FD-302, such as “Date Dictated,” Date Signed by Agent, and Supervisor Signature date. If the dates get too long, there has to be an explanation. Again, I don’t know what modern workstation computers have done to change this system, such as eliminating the steno pools. I don’t know.


        • farrier105 says:

          This is a good reference:


    • Let's roll says:

      This Ohr/DOJ/FBI plot is nothing short of Treason.

      If Mueller is charged with investigating Russian/foreign election interference, how to goodness has he ignored the reams of interference run by this huge cast of Democratic Traitors?!

      Past Leaders of Our “Justice” System?!? This sedition then prosecution needs to be out for all to see.

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      • TomJ says:

        All of this makes no difference. Remember Sessions is at the helm of the FBI. He is not going to do a thing. The absolute worst A.G. the U.S. has ever had.

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  3. I really must agree with Michael Goodwin on this one- time for our President Trump to play his ace in the hole:

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  4. john hennessy says:

    what ever happened to Nellie Ohr’s new 2016 hobby of ham radios she picked up late in life… is the radio with the billing records from the Rose Law firm she was hiding for Hillary… (Oh That Nellie Ohr!)

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    • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

      To any Hammy out there:

      Given that these must be licensed can their usage be tracked? (i.e. do you have to transmit your “call sign” to be in compliance?)

      Since Nellie’s license application for ham radio has been known for quite some time, I’d be curious if anyone has tracked her activity.

      I’m willing to bet she been “off air” for quite some time.
      (Guessing she’s lost interest in the hobby)

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      • Crystal says:

        Just whose fan club(s) was she a member of – Russia? China? Both? She’s allegedly a Russian expert who’s fluent in the language. Did she, as an employee of F-GPS, craft the initial blueprint for the dossier and then pass it off to Steele (for authenticity’s sake) to fill in the blanks? Then he added some salacious Kremlin (still in Russia last I heard) gossip because that appears to be all the corrupt march-in-lockstep MSM cares to promote now, plus it would garner the female vote (or so they hoped) for The Beast. BTW, wasn’t Steele originally fired as a spy by his own country for being untrustworthy or am I misremembering? And is Nellie’s darling hubby Bruce an American of Chinese descent or was he born and raised there?


        • Jayne gilmore says:

          Apparently his middle name isn’t Chinese, but maybe Japanese. I just read this on a previous page in these comments.


  5. DeWalt says:

    When Trump won he surely upset the apple cart. Bad enough in American politics. What about the Global Order? What was causing the British intelligence folks so much angst? Steele was apparently distressed. Why?
    My theory is there was a CIA/MI6 op taking place that hadn’t taken Trumps win into consideration. Remember how Nigel Farage was constantly on TV backing Trump and meeting with the Trumps. Something else was afoot and this is what Brennan is agitated about also.
    When Trump got the nomination he became enemy number one. Here and in Europe. My guess is our goverment was running a operation to sabotage BREXIT and Trump knew it. Britain leaving the EU would drive a nail in the EU. This is what Steele knows. This is what Brennan knows.
    They accuse the other parties of what they themselves are doing. This cannot be exposed or the world will see the Globalist are overthrowing countries and the Obama administration was complicit. Think, Arab Spring, think Libya and so forth .

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  6. youme says:

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    • youme says:

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      • Gerry says:

        Steele-Ohr-Warner- the plot thickens

        I think Senator Warner was also in the loop with Bruce Ohr on back door subversion as 7 March seems to be a date of interest. Talk about collusion. The ranking minority member of the Senate Intel Committee is potentially coordinating and colluding with the DOJ, FBI and Steele out of concern with Senator Grassely’s request for nformation.
        “Would it be possible to speak later today please? We’re very concerned by the Grassley letter and it’s possible implications for us, our operations and our sources. We need some reassurances,” Steele wrote in a March 7, 2017 text message to Bruce Ohr, who then served as deputy assistant attorney general.”

        See copy of text message on 7 March between Warner and Steele asking for a meeting.

        Sorry unable to copy and paste the message dated 7 March, which seems to indicate some angst and urgency.

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        • G. Combs says:

          “….it’s possible implications for us, our operations and our sources…..”

          GEE could that be ” Robert Hannigan, then the chief of the GCHQ, [who] passed Brennan more material related to conversations Trump associates had…” and “the intelligence agency of one of the Baltic States”

          RUSSIA interference??? You have to be kidding me. It was the UK and the EU who interfered and is STILL interfering!

          I hope President Trump cuts both the EU and the UK (and Canada) off at the knees!

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    • jmclever says:

      Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I give you exhibit A for “consciousness of guilt”

      Liked by 1 person

  7. Dr.Jay says:

    In that article linked above (

    “At the time, the case was based mostly on an Australian diplomat’s tip that Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos appeared to know in advance that the Russians possessed information involving Hillary Clinton before hacked documents were released on WikiLeaks.”

    What nonsense.
    You do not open a case because an Australian diplomat says at a cocktail party in London to a US diplomat that he talked to a Trump campaign associate and that associate had been talking about that thing that was in the news at the time (the claim by the original Guccifer to have hacked Clinton’s emails + the FBI investigation into her email server and whether any country had gotten access etc).

    Mind you both Mifsud (who was supposed to have told Papa about the emails) as well as Downer (who was supposed to have heard Papa tell him about it and who then briefed US SD) are BOTH denying to have ever talked about any Clinton emails with Papadopolous.
    Yet Papa was forced to ‘confess’ he did talk about it as part of his plea deal (if he hadn’t made that deal then Mueller would have tried other charges, including being an Israeli spy or agent, in order to bankrupt Papa). What a kangaroo court this is becoming.

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    • G. Combs says:

      It is nonsense! British Intel was spying on President Trump IN 2015! How is that NOT INTERFERENCE by a foreign country????

      Jan. 14, 2017
      From Business Insider: Report: CIA set up task-force in 2016 to investigate possible Russian funding of Trump’s campaign

      “[…] The task force included the FBI, the Treasury and Justice Departments, the CIA, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, and the National Security Agency (NSA).

      It was set up after the director of the CIA, John Brennan, received a recording of a conversation about money from the Kremlin going into Trump’s campaign coffers, the BBC’s Paul Wood reported. The recording was apparently passed to the CIA by the intelligence agency of one of the Baltic States.

      On October 15, the task force was reportedly granted a warrant by a judge in the FISA court — named after the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act — to intercept the electronic records from two Russian banks that may have been implicated in the money transfer, a senior intelligence official told the BBC. Trump was not named in the warrant, but three of his associates were the subject of the inquiry.[…]”

      Apr. 13, 2017
      “[…]Brennan reportedly established a counterintelligence task force, which included the FBI and the National Security Agency. That summer, Robert Hannigan, then the chief of the GCHQ, passed Brennan more material related to conversations Trump associates had with suspected or known Russian agents,[…]”

      May 23, 2017
      “[…]Trump fired Comey earlier this month, just over nine months into the FBI’s probe of Russia’s hacking and disinformation campaigns that targeted Democrats during the election. That probe began in earnest when Robert Hannigan, then the chief of Britain’s Government Communications Headquarters, passed Brennan material related to conversations Trump associates had with suspected or known Russian agents in late 2015 and early 2016,….

      Brennan was so concerned about the intercepted communications that he established a counterintelligence task force, which included the FBI and the National Security Agency. (Former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper testified earlier this month that those communications had been picked up and handed over to US agencies, but he could not elaborate due to the “sensitive” nature of the intelligence.)[…]”

      Early forecast: #Spygate started in 2015, not 2016, by Sally Yates allowing private contractors to access NSA database. Evidence: why otherwise would they get the wrong Cohen in Prague? Also note #Spygate shifts to “human sources” (e.g. spies) same time that Rogers shut it down.
      — Robert Barnes (@Barnes_Law) May 27, 2018

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  8. RetiredProsecutor says:

    Just a thought: Isn’t it time for the (alleged)Attorney General to convene a grand jury under the direction of a US Attorney from outside DC to consider a RICO case against the various players in this case. The DoJ could be the criminal enterprise.

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    • jmclever says:

      who says that hasn’t happened? AG Sessions appointed John Huber and we have not heard anything about his work other than it is ongoing. Loose lips sink ships and generate rationale for appealed convictions, so “mum’s the word.”


      • D says:

        Or he’s covering it all up. Do you trust Rod Rosenstien? If no then how can you trust Sessions? Who appointed Huber? This stuff happened 3 years ago, are you going to try to tell me it takes the DOJ that long to build a case? When most of the information has been public for over a year. I hope I am wrong but this is a cover up going on in the DOJ to protect it. The truth can never be made public or else nobody will ever trust our law enforcement agencies ever again.

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  9. BobR says:

    that means going after
    Obama. Aint gonna happen


  10. Jeff P. says:

    This needs to be made into a movie so the rest of the sleeping Giant can absorb what has and continues to go on. Launch it !!!! Make them have to then start arresting and indicting people.

    Liked by 1 person

    • D says:

      This all happened 3 years ago almost. The only indictments we will see are a couple of them lying to the FBI. It’s all a joke and waste of time. If Trump wanted them held accountable he could make it happen.


  11. Concerned says:

    DOJ’s Bruce Ohr & Sally Yates Swapped Intel with Christopher Steele & Fusion GPS to Discredit Trump


  12. Tiffthis says:

    I remember reading last year that the Ohrs had been communicating on a ham radio. We will
    never know what was said on that thing.


  13. megrez80 says:

    Who is the woman in the center of the image showing the circular connections of the dossier’s travels?


  14. jmclever says:

    I vote Sundance gets to be a staffer for Devin Nunes and together they ask all the right questions and get this finished with once and for all

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  15. D says:

    Does anyone honestly still believe that the “small group” is going to be held accountable? I bet even Trump wants most of this washes away that way it doesn’t destroy his FBI/DOJ. This all started almost 3 years ago. What a joke.


    • peace says:

      I do; otherwise why would Sundance be spending his precious time putting all this together and connecting the dots for us? If a positive outcome, meaning jail time, isn’t in the picture, then all of us have wasted a hefty chunk of our lives.


      • nccosmiccurmudgeon says:

        Should the “Failsafe Circuit” become activated, the detailed work that Sundance and Others here at CTH have provided will be just as valuable and important as it would be for a single Patriotic prosecutor.
        We have the oppositions Order of Battle, clear and concise intelligence on those that are in command, and detailed photographs for positive identification purposes.
        For those of you who are so inclined, please continue your prayers that a Patriotic prosecutor will rise and set forth to bring those that Sundance has identified to a swift justice. Also continue your prayers that the “Failsafe Circuit” will continue to lie dormant.

        I will vigilantly stand by awaiting a word I pray not hear again.


  16. Dr.Jay says:

    That was 20 days after he was dismissed on Nov 1, 2016. But that is current reality, i.e. retrospectively, after they changed history.
    So at the time (Nov 21, 2016) Steele was still working for the FBI. It was after that date that they changed records in order to show that he had been let go on Nov 1, 2016.
    Get it?

    Similar to Papa being the opening move, when that is not even plausible. Opening of case was earlier and based on CIA Brennan request based upon info that he (claimed to have) received from Estonia (who in turn got their stuff from their neighbors, most likely; the ones to the East).
    After the fact they said 31 July. After the fact they said it was opened because of PapaD. Both likely lies and changing history (and perhaps documents to match).

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    • Dr.Jay says:

      Mishap. This was response to post by youme (d/t August 8, 2018 at 11:21 am)


    • Concerned says:

      How is it that you know “Nov 21, 2016) Steele was still working for the FBI” this Dr.Jay?


      • Dr.Jay says:

        Educated guess. They lie al the time. And at that date the two FBI love birds discuss about running a Q to Mr. Steele. Now why would they do that if Steele had been dismissed for cause? Personan non grata.

        “Bruce Ohr’s notes taken from a meeting with Peter Strzok and Lisa Page on Nov. 21, 2016, show they told him they “may go back to Chris.” That was 20 days after he was dismissed from FBI. “

        I predicted (on ZH) in January 2017, shortly after the release of the dossier, that they would have used that dossier to get a FISA warrant. “Surely the didn’t?” LOL.
        And called them stupid M-frs because that could only imply that they would have to lie to the judges, otherwise that wouldn’t work.


    • Dr.Jay says:
      [transcript from Hannity interview of Nunes]
      “HANNITY: I’ve been hearing rumors on top of that of a tape and potentially intel servers involvement in all of this? Is there any truth to that?

      NUNES: Well, that I think gets to the origins of the investigation, which we still are unclear on. We know that the Australian diplomat that was serving in London – we were told that it was Five Eye’s intelligence that was used to go after Papadopoulos.

      What we discovered in our investigation is there was no Five Eye’s intelligence, and in fact, Downer’s story – the Australian diplomat – doesn’t even make any sense. So we’re still trying to follow up on that. But in the big picture here, we need these documents declassified. That has to get done.”


  17. Confused - Help - Sorry :( says:

    Am I missing something? Are we to now conclude that the Steele Dossier was an FBI product (as well as a product of the Clinton Campaign)?

    If so, this explains why no effort was made to corroborate it as corroboration would lead back to the FBI. The other interesting point, is that in James Comey’s interview with George Stephanopolous (April 2018) he discouraged Trump from ordering the FBI to investigate the origins of the document: “Because it would create a narrative of the FBI investigating you personally and it is very difficult to prove something didn’t happen.”

    Is this the correct conclusion to draw? Or am I getting it wrong?


  18. mashall says:

    Sundance,Your research is outstanding in every way!
    Keep hammering on all social media/internet fronts.
    I trust you have contingency plans to counter any “Info Wars” type ban efforts or shutdowns.
    Colin Flaherty continues to circumvent bans of the monolithic “masters of the universe” globalist/PC groups.
    Onward to Victory!


  19. Deplore Able says:

    Sundance writes above:

    “CTH is very interested in the Ohr communication, writ large, for several reasons. One of the things we want to do is overlay the post-election communication between Senator Mark Warner and Lobbyist Adam Waldman (lobbying for Oleg Deripaska) while Waldman was trying to work out communication between Senator Warner and Chris Steele.”

    Here is an overlay:
    March 6, 2017: Grassley letter to Comey: “Were any other government officials outside of the FBI involved in discussing or authorizing the agreement with Mr. Steele, including anyone from the Department of Justice or the Obama White House? If so, please explain who was involved and provide all related records.”

    March 7, 2017: Steele to Ohr “Would it be possible to speak with you later today please. We are very concerned about the Grassley letter and its possible implications for us, our operations and our sources. We need some reassurance. Many thanks.” [Who are the “we” who needs reassurance?]

    March 8, 2017: Warner to Waldman: “Want to connect. There may be more to come.

    March 8, 2017: Waldman to Warner: “There is more to come. Just tell me where and when.”

    March 9. 2017: Waldman to Warner: “DOJ called me today; we will talk at 530.”

    March 11, 2017: Waldman to Warner: “PS on the question discussed, they already are aware. I have had lots of other dealings with the DOJ relating to my RUS client.”

    Steele wants reassurances from Ohr about Grassley letter. Waldman represents Deripraska. Waldman in communication with Warner regarding interview of Steele. DOJ calls Waldman. Waldman informs Warner that DOJ called. Reassurances? Who are the “we” who needs reassurance? Deripraska? Hmmmmm. Deripraska provided dossier info to FBI through Nellie and Bruce Ohr? Deripraska now want cover, assurances?

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    • Dr.Jay says:

      Yeah Deripaska is prime candidate. But it could also be that Deripaska merely provided intel against Manafort, as he had dealings with him (which ended badly).


  20. Tammy says:

    Take down Hilary and Obama we can’t brake laws they shouldn’t be allowed to get away with treason

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  21. Jane Smith says:

    I wonder who Nellie Ohr was communicating with on her Ham radio?
    There is a John Brennan from Bethesda who has a ZA-General Mobile Radio License…not sure if this is the former CIA Director.
    Info at:

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    • Concerned says:

      It’s true that Ham Radios can communicate around the world, but not necessarily. You can turn up and down the power used for transmission on these transceivers. Nellie Ohr could have been transmitting to someone locally, in fact very locally, in order to avoid local phone tapping.

      Remember: the more transmission power used, the larger the number of people who can intercept you, and the higher the risk.


  22. Josey Wales says:

    – Justice Department official Bruce Ohr did not disclose Fusion GPS was paying his wife
    – Ohr was demoted from his post after the information emerged
    – Willfully falsifying government ethics documents can result in jail time


    • nccosmiccurmudgeon says:

      Is Bruce the subject of the “What’s for Lunch” letter that was posted up by Sundance a few days ago perhaps?
      (Been a long week at work, so forgive me it I am a day late and a dollar short on this question)


  23. Chewbarkah says:

    Theory: To blow up the conspiracy, uncover exactly how Christopher Steele came to be hired by Glenn Simpson/Fusion GPS.
    1) Did someone in the DoJ/FBI/CIA/NSC orbit (Yates, either Ohr, McCabe, Strzok, Brennan, Susan Rice ?) pass along the idea of using Steele, to either Hillary/DNC/Hillary Campaign?
    2) Did someone in the DoJ/FBI/CIA orbit put Glenn Simpson up to hiring Steele?

    I suspect that the Hillary cabal within the IC gave Hillary directly or indirectly, the idea of using Fusion GPS and having Fusion specifically hire Steele. The whole scheme was a package deal. Simpson didn’t hire Steele by chance. Force out the truth of how he came to be selected and a major criminal conspiracy is naked for all to see (not that they will…).


    • Dr.Jay says:

      Simpson and Steele had worked together before AFAIK. Nelly Ohr certainly had worked with Simpson. Ohr knows Ohr, Bruce Ohr is buddies with loads of people on the suspect list (Yates, Lynch, Comey). So it is possible I guess.

      But know that Fusion GPS (Simpson) is partially a private spy shop, just like Orbis Business Intelligence (Steele). So many people would know each other in that area.


  24. Joe from Wyo says:

    Wow. Paragraph 3a is damning. Hate to be Nellie… I just want to know if Carter Page was paid by the FBI to “volunteer” for the Trump campaign.. i think he was as that gave them the go-ahead as he was a known “russian spy” kinda guy….

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  25. Fools Gold says:

    Boom! Whoa Nellie! 🕸


  26. Madi says:

    This women, OHR , is ugly but that is not her fault!
    But she is a despicable , dishonest human being. What kind of mother can she possibly be?
    She had a choice to be honest or dishonest .
    Poor kids to have ugly looking mom and dad and they are both liars, despicable . They do not deserve equal justice but rather should have “social justice” !


  27. Madi says:

    Lock them up!


  28. Chieftain says:

    Did The Hill’s Solomon have to sleep with someone to get the “leaked” documents?
    Just asking. Seems that is how things roll in D.C.


  29. scott467 says:

    “The Ohrs’ relationship with Steele and Fusion GPS was inexplicably concealed from the FISC.”


    Oh it’s ‘explicable’ all right, lol!

    If it had NOT been concealed from the FISC, the FISC would never have gone along with the scheme.

    Or rather, the WHOLLY CORRUPT ‘FISC’ would have had a much more difficult time pretending at ‘plausible deniability’, to the extent they would even need to do so, because there IS NO OVERSIGHT anyway!


    And as CTH has shown in previous articles, the FISC judge HAD TO KNOW the whole thing was a scam by other information revealed in the docs, things which are obvious even to people who aren’t lawyers, so a Judge (a lawyer of lawyers) has NO EXCUSE.

    The whole filthy rotten mess is corrupt to the CORE.


  30. Iamcat says:

    Our President and his family and team, are being investigated by criminals in plain sight. What is going on here is a crime. It has to stop now.


  31. Beth02 says:

    What did Steele keep trying to get into FBI? They used his crooked dossier to get what they wanted – the FISA. So why keep hounding them? Can’t imagine he had more information – so why the need to interact with FBI after FISA?


    • farrier105 says:

      Steele was after progress reports about things going on inside about his reports. He lost his window when Comey had to cut off DIRECT communications and started laundering them through Ohr.


  32. Alex says:

    What a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive.


  33. farrier105 says:

    We should also understand that someone of Ohr’s rank in the DOJ is not assigned an FBI “handler.” Ohr hands his information from Steele to an FBI employee or SA who is assigned to RECEIVE the information from Ohr. The FBI employee is Ohr’s servant, not the other way around. Ohr had juice in the DOJ then as a ranking executive. All Ohr had to do was call Comey or Priestap and the agent would be ordered to pick up Ohr’s information and bring it to FBI CI. There is a hierarchy here with DOJ always over FBI.


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