NAFTA Development – U.S. and Mexico Plan Ministerial Session Thursday in DC…

Apparently our CTH suspicions were correct; this is interesting.  Canadian Foreign Minister Chrystia Freeland is scheduled to leave Canada on Tuesday for a meeting of ASEAN foreign ministers in Singapore…. Meanwhile U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer and a high-level Mexican team -consisting of both incoming AMLO and exiting Nieto delegations- will be meeting again to determine the details of a bilateral trade deal.

Mexican Economy Minister Ildefonso Guajardo is from the outgoing Pena Nieto administration and was part of the crew supporting the Canadian position; ie. the plan to continue exploiting the NAFTA loophole.  However, Mexican president-elect Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador (AMLO) has selected Jesus Seade as his lead person for trade negotiations and appears more willing to engage in a bilateral trade deal with the U.S.

AMLO’s Jesus Seade, Minister Ildefonso Guajardo and Ambassador Robert Lighthizer are meeting again this Thursday to put the outline of a deal together; while Canada is sidelined from the discussion.

Flavio Volpe, president of the Automotive Parts Manufacturers’ Association in Canada, said: “I wouldn’t be surprised if the Americans and the Mexicans came to some resolution on that piece (autos) and then the Americans flip it back to Canada and say ‘Take it or leave it’.”  That is exactly what CTH anticipated was going to happen.

Remember, with Canada joining the Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP), the issues of the NAFTA fatal flaw expand exponentially.  The Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) would now be able to exploit partner Canada as a gateway into the U.S. market. POTUS Trump is having nothing to do with that nonsense.

In the big picture AMLO wants to advance the Mexican manufacturing base; expand the aggregate economic base; and also stop the corporate exploitation of the Mexican farm worker. In these objectives U.S. President Trump is more than willing to be a partner with President Lopez Obrador. Heck, President Trump would actually love to assist AMLO on that agenda; it is mutually beneficial.

Diametrically, Justin from Canada has doubled-down on the retention of the fatal flaw and does not want an expanded domestic manufacturing base. The enviro-nuts of his base just will not support it and a carbon tax looms on the horizon.

As a consequence, Canada is loggerheads with the United States because Canada is demanding to retain their NAFTA access to the U.S. market, and simultaneously retain their ability to broker imported Chinese/ASEAN goods.

This means a trade deal with Mexico is possible; and a trade deal with Canada is almost impossible. So the U.S. has focused on negotiations with Mexico for terms of an ‘agreement in principle’, at an “unprecedented speed.” In this regard, according to U.S.T.R. Lighthizer, the U.S. and Mexico are very close to coming to that agreement. The U.S. team and Mexican team met last Thursday in Washington DC, and are now scheduled to meet this Thursday – again in DC.

(Reuters) […] There will be “technical meetings probably until Wednesday and a ministerial meeting on Thursday,” a Mexican source close to the talks told Reuters on Monday. A second Mexican source close to the talks also said a ministerial meeting was planned for Thursday. (link)

If the U.S. and Mexico come to an agreement, two key issues are resolved which puts even more leverage and pressure on Canada: First, the biggest downside concern for the U.S. agriculture sector would be belayed.  Second, depending on the terms, the Mexican economy, financial and stock market would stabilize.

In this scenario Canada becomes increasingly isolated, and unfortunately, with the Canadian idiotic carbon tax scheme fast approaching, manufacturing companies will be heading to the exits.

The terms are unknown and the strategy is still tenuous, however the U.S. and Mexico appear to be closing in on an agreement. Together the U.S. and Mexico likely then present a take-it-or-leave-it opportunity for Canada to join; either way, NAFTA is essentially dead and Canada really doesn’t have options.

Justin from Canada and Princess Rainbow Sparkles Freeland have really screwed up in this process.  They have allowed themselves to be blinded by pure political anti-Trumpism while pragmatic business and economic interests of the U.S. and Mexico have moved forward.

If things go as they appear to be heading…. Politically, President Trump explains why NAFTA is dead; the U.S. and Mexico immediately unveil the framework of the joint bilateral trade agreement; AMLO and Trump have political cover, a partnership is immediate; and U.S./Mexican business interests move forward with changes to Mexican manufacturing/assembly as way-points.  The Mexican NAFTA back-door closes over an agreed upon period of time.

Smart play.

P.S. … put this in the ‘out there’, but possible because Trump file:  We might see an announcement this Friday about an agreement in principle between the U.S. and Mexico.

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297 Responses to NAFTA Development – U.S. and Mexico Plan Ministerial Session Thursday in DC…

  1. scott467 says:

    “The enviro-nuts of his base just will not support it and a carbon tax looms on the horizon.”


    Are the enviro-nuts even an issue, as far as the fascist Left is concerned?

    Were Hitler’s brownshirts concerned with what either their ‘base’ OR their opposition thought – about anything?

    Or did they just smash heads?

    The Left doesn’t operate from the grass-roots up, the Left operates from the iron fist at the top and punches down. Their lemmings will fall dutifully in line, or wind up in the hospital. Or the morgue. Leadership doesn’t care which.

    To watch the fascist Left in action, look no further than former Mayor Villaraigosa at the DNC convention.

    Between the 2008 and 2012 presidential frauds (‘elections’), the Demonrats kicked God and any mention of Jerusalem out of their official party platform. Must have happened during a wild party, with bong hits and shots and high-fives all around.

    But when the 2012 election rolled around, it was going to turn into a big embarrassment and campaign issue, so the wicked people in high places decided to ram God back into the Demonrat Party platform.

    Former Los Angeles mayor Antonio Villaraigosa put the motion to a vote, which required a two-thirds majority approval, and said “all those in favor say aye” and some of the delegates said “aye”. Then Villaraigosa said “all those opposed say no”, and the crowd roared “NO!”.

    The Demonrat delegates did NOT want God to be allowed back onto the “party platform”. It was unbelievable. Villaraigosa stammered and said we’ll try it again.

    All those in favor say “Aye!” and part of the crowd said “aye”.

    All those opposed say “No”, and the clear majority enthusiastically shouted “NO!”

    It was *pure comedy gold* at this point. Talk about a politician caught in a live moment with no clue what to do or say, you really need to see it for yourself (video link below). He stammered some more and looked around, had no idea what to do.

    Then an older female member of the Demon Politburo goose-stepped out on stage and told Villaraigosa what to do, and it was clearly audible over the microphone, she told him to do the vote again and let them do what they’re going to do, and then *rule*.

    They didn’t care what the delegates wanted, they didn’t care about the vote, they didn’t care about their own rules. They cared only about asserting their will to power. Period.

    A classic demonstration of the fascist Leftist machine ramming it through over the objection of their own delegates. In living color.

    So Villaraigosa did it again, he said “all those in favor say AYE!” and clearly less than half the delegates said “aye”. Then Villaraigosa said “all those opposed say no”, and the clear majority shouted “NO!”.

    Then Villaraigosa dutifully said “in the opinion of the chair two-thirds have voted in the affirmative and the motion is passed”.

    It was classic. That’s how party machine dictators do it, and that’s how the DNC does it. The Chicago way. The idea that delegates have any say is purely for show, and they don’t even try very hard to maintain that illusion.

    Check it out for yourself:

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    • Jedi9 says:

      If Canada doesn’t change their suicide mission soon, they are in danger of becoming just like Venezuela in the not too distant future. I am sure before that happens the US will throw them a life line, but at the expense of hanging the left with their own rope!

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    • Turranos says:

      Just to turn the tables a bit. The RNC in 2012 completely sidelined 177 of Ron Paul’s delegates. The RNC had chosen Mitt the Carpet Bagger Romney as their man and free speech and any delegate power was tossed aside. The RNC had their true colors on full display that day.

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    • MattyIce says:

      Oh man, the look on that minister’s face! I’m pretty sure that was the bitter red pill he just got feed and swallowed, classic!


  2. Cooper45 says:

    “Justin from Canada and Princess Rainbow Sparkles Freeland… have allowed themselves to be blinded by pure political anti-Trumpism while pragmatic business and economic interests of the U.S. and Mexico have moved forward.”

    I totally agree. The dynamic Canadian trade duo are acting ideologically and not rationally or what is in the best economic interests of all Canadians. With 3 main political parties in Canada, the national election winner only has to receive slightly over a 1/3 of all votes so they can be more irrational as the NDP and Liberals often prove. The Conservative party is mostly following or duplicating and rarely originating anything that might cause a dreaded media stir.

    I wish I was a reporter at one of the J’s & C’s press conferences and I would ask Chrystia if she received specific political or trade advice from Menendez and anti Trump Corker and Flake when she visited D C. and ask both of them if they have been in close contact with any U.S. Democrats and coordinating an anti Trump strategy with them. (Just for the record) After all the lefty EU Commissioner, what’s her name, is her “sister in trade” as a previous article showed.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if the progressive duo have been receiving advice and support from various top level Dems as they both have a common political enemy that they despise DJT.

    . Note–Trump is not alone. Former PM Harper was often confronted by the same Dem like political playbook as Trump and was also called a Nazi and other hysterical epithets by the Canadian left and accused of having a racist, pro Big Business and oppressive anti-democratic agenda.

    The vitriol and wackiness from so called “polite” Canadians against the Harper gov’t was a disgrace. Justin “loves himself” Trudeau often lectured or scolded Harper on numerous issues incl his alleged racist and intolerant views against the niqab, requiring Mexican visas and on and on.(Justin has removed the visa requirement)

    PM Trudeau loves standing on his moral and progressive pedestal and being the PM gives him many opportunities to do so on the world stage.They often flop like in India

    Here is one of countless hysterical,vicious anti Harper links that are like Trump’s today: A quick cursory glance should reveal the similarities to the ongoing anti Trump campaign

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    • scott467 says:

      “The Conservative party is mostly following or duplicating and rarely originating anything that might cause a dreaded media stir.”


      Is there any reason to think the so-called ‘conservative’ party in Canada is any different that the wholly corrupted RINO party in America?

      Don’t ALL of the Western so-called “democracies” have wholly corrupt Uni-Party political systems in place now? Isn’t that how the globalists are controlling the entire Western world, intentionally destroying it, until Trump came along?

      Is there ANY legitimate opposition within the political-class of the Western world? If there was, if they weren’t all on the same globalist team behind closed doors but wearing bogus ‘opposition hats’ for public consumption, then how could the entire Western world be marching in lockstep into oblivion, on every subject imaginable?

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      • SwampRatTerrier says:

        It’s called controlled opposition.

        They always get their way because they created their “conservative” opposition and installed it like an appliance.

        Liked by 2 people

        • G. Combs says:

          Controlled opposition has been used for ~100 years.

          “The chief problem of American political life for a long time has been how to make the two congressional parties more national and international. The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one, perhaps of the Right and the other of the Left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to the doctrinaire and academic thinkers. Instead the two parties should be almost identical, so the that American people can ‘throw the rascals out’ at any election without leading to any profound or extensive shifts in policy.”

          Quote from Tragedy and Hope, 1966 by Carroll Quigley, member of Council on Foreign Relations, mentor to Bill Clinton.

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    • scott467 says:

      “I wish I was a reporter at one of the J’s & C’s press conferences and I would ask Chrystia if she received specific political or trade advice from Menendez and anti Trump Corker and Flake when she visited D C. and ask both of them if they have been in close contact with any U.S. Democrats and coordinating an anti Trump strategy with them.”


      She would just lie.

      Without hesitation.

      Without batting an eye.

      And then say ‘next question?’

      To catch a psychopath, you have to set a trap.

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      • hellinahandbasket says:

        Canada is a captured nation, and because of this pre-NAFTA-exit, we see much more clearly how they are twisted-up, and unable to get out of their globalist net. Another tell-tail sign of their complete globalist netting – they welcome Islam at an increasing rate, changing their country’s demographic, and there’s not even so much as a whisper that it’s a problem, they all live in fear, society trust all but evaporated, and they all pretend diversity makes them stronger – I don’t even think a really bad violent Islamic episode will shake them now. Canada is like that family that never speaks of their troubles, as they laugh and drink merrily at Thanksgiving, even though the family is a dysfunctional mess.
        Do we really believe Ms Sparkle Pants has A N Y influence, position, or clout to make one teeny-tiny decision in this trade debacle? I’d say with confidence that Canada has been a globalist bitch for at least 70-years, just after WW-II, and they didn’t care – it was an easy way to feigned-prosperity. Part of me feels sorry for the people of Canada, as their subsequent “leaders”, political term after term, all stream in and out, now 70-years later, still completely oblivious they are 100% controlled by the cabal, as they push empty promises to constituents so they can sleep at night, without ever knowing why they’re all a failure to their nation – and the people are okay with all of it. Canada is gone, I wish them well, but they’ll never rip out of their net because they refuse to admit they’re tangled-up in it in the first place. R.I.P Canada (ain’t globalism great…?)


        • G. Combs says:

          Canada is OWNED by the British Royal Family.
          WIKI — “The monarchy of Canada is at the core of both Canada’s federal structure and Westminster-style of parliamentary and constitutional democracy.[6] The monarchy is the foundation of the executive (Queen-in-Council), legislative (Queen-in-Parliament), and judicial (Queen-on-the-Bench) branches within both federal and provincial jurisdictions.[10] The sovereign is the personification of the Canadian state and is Queen of Canada as a matter of constitutional law.[11][12][17] The current Canadian monarch is Queen Elizabeth II, who has reigned since 6 February 1952. Elizabeth’s eldest son, Prince Charles, is heir apparent. …”

          “Queen Elizabeth II the largest landowner on Earth.”

          “Queen Elizabeth II, head of state of the United Kingdom and of 31 other states and territories, is the legal owner of about 6,600 million acres of land, one sixth of the earth’s non ocean surface.

          She is the only person on earth who owns whole countries, and who owns countries that are not her own domestic territory. This land ownership is separate from her role as head of state and is different from other monarchies where no such claim is made….”

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        • Jeff P. says:

          Let Canada and Canadians drown in their own ignorance. They know the meaning of the words Civil Unrest. I suggest they Get Busy on that front and start burning down Quebec or Ottawa make it a good size city so Justin can hear you over his Globalist handlers. I have family from Canada (by marriage) so I kinda feel a little bad, but not enough that America should be paying for their lives, Literally. Canadians reading this, sorry it’s America First! Better get on Justin’s a$$ and get him off the Globalist Muslim teat.
          MAGA! KAG! America First Always!


      • hellinahandbasket says:

        P>S> to scott467 – I’m right there with you with globalist control, and have been clamoring on and on about it for many years. The USofA was in deep, but lucky for us, Trump came marching in, and came marching just in the nick of time. You clearly understand what’s going on here, but there are still mobs who don’t understand the opposition against everything Trump, is to realize it’s not right/left, but to realize it’s globalist opposition, there is no right/left/center, AND it’s not coming from inside the USofA, it’s coming at Trump from global forces, to INCLUDE the forces from the interior. I think we both know this cabal is NOT going to go quietly into the night (as we’ve seen since June 16, 2015, they’re fighting hard, and dirty), but I think they are worried, for they know Trump is waking-up the masses, and rallying OUR opposition against globalism, and that’s a YUGE problem….. for globalism. #MAGA

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  3. SwampRatTerrier says:

    Eh Canada. Pride goeth before a Thaw Eh?

    Liked by 3 people

  4. KBR says:

    Two important things not mentioned:

    1) Both President Trump and President elect Obrador are Christian.

    Meanwhile PM Trudeau has stated “evangelical Christians are the worst part of Canadian society.” He has welcomed Muslims and there is a photo of him praying in a Mosque.
    He claims all Christians in Canada must support abortion.

    2) President Trump and President Elect Obrador are both elders in their countries. Both have chosen to cut their presidential salaries: President Trump to one dollar, President Obrador to 60%

    PM Trudeau is a flighty boyish puppet. He has raised his own salary, and even got an increase for his children’s nanny. (Too many links will stop the post, so you can look up the nanny pay increase yourself.)

    Personally, these two factors are important because they indicate the spiritual positions of the three leaders.

    Ephesians 6:12 For our struggle is not against flesh and …
    For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

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    • Lindenl says:

      Yes, and I pray that He speaks to each of th4m and appeals to their better natures. Mexico is a hot mess, and if AMLO really starts to make a diff, he will need divine protection.

      I am at my house in MX now, and have been talking with my Mexican neighbors about this, middle class people, and they are really happy. MX has been under the iron fists of the Ruling Families, corrupt government, and others for so long, and corruption is a way of life here.

      I will say that for Mexico, as much as it needs to raise the minimum wage, $16/hour is a prince’s wage here, and will never fly. But benefits instead of money would really help the medical system here, which is horribly overburdened. Right now, the daily wage is $80 pesos, abput $4.50/day. There are many people that make only the equivalent of $6000 USD/year.

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  5. davecatbone says:

    Canadian comments on Twitter say Trudeau is throwing Canada under the bus to shore up Hate Trump votes for the next election.
    It’s all ideology.

    Liked by 2 people

  6. RoostyScoot says:

    Alright treepers. The line is 75% chance that included in the us/mexico agreement are terms and conditions that can pay for the wall. Over/under/push? Place bets now!

    Liked by 1 person

    • Some Old Guy says:

      As one of his first “actions”, despite not officially being el presidente, I cannot envision AMLO agreeing to pay for the Wall directly in any fashion. If the betting line is 75% that he will, I think the under is the far more likely bet.


      • TheLastDemocrat says:

        I have noted that AMLO cannot get a handle on Mexico, to any extent, without getting a handle on organized crime. Drug and human trafficking.

        AMLO cannot do that without a wall.

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        • Some Old Guy says:

          I understand your argument but my point relates to the domestic appearances of such an action in Mexico at this time.


        • Rhoda R says:

          The cartels depend on an open border. AMLO wouldn’t have been elected without the support of the cartels. I wouldn’t take any bets on Mexico supporting the wall in any way, shape, or fashion.


          • Rhoda R says:

            I would love to be wrong about this.


          • Lindenlee says:

            It is VERY, VERY important that AMLO not be perceived in any way to have an inferior position in this. The insistence on Mexican “pride” and “dignity” is an obsession here (I am in MX right now). Trump knows how to do this, and create conditions that will make AMLO appear to be a proud equal.

            This precludes any open agreement about a wall being paid by MX. It will come in another form. Trump will find a way. He is going to give AMLO some really good ideas about how to expand the wage base and have the rising tide lift all boats, and get his people back from the US.

            The problem will be the criminals. Nobody wants thrm. A work farm might work, free labor of some kind.


  7. signer1 says:

    Trudeau will fight for tariff free imports to the US, and Trump will fight for tariffs. Mexico is not Canada, they’ll pay. Mexico can’t afford not to. Each leader’s economic representative will fight for what’s in their country’s best interest. What a stark difference between Obama handing over lost revenue and saying thank you for letting us self sacrifice in order to build your GDP. No mas!

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  8. The Boss says:

    This looming deal is one among many reasons why I voted for President Trump. Clearly adult winners are in charge, and it isn’t tiresome in the least.

    Liked by 2 people

  9. Peoria Jones says:

    Sundance, IMHO you are at your best with your analyses of the Trump economic negotiations. Fascinating stuff. If I were the enemy, I’d be keeping a watchful eye on this blog. Thanks for all you do, and stay safe.

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  10. Kid Jupiter says:

    “Princess Rainbow Sparkles” Freeland is a lame nickname.
    “Fat Legs Freeland” is much better.


  11. Derek says:

    trumps been praising the guy since he was president elect a few weeks ago.. when trump does that you know some things have already occurred.. my gut tells me that trump has an intense dislike for Trudea.. probably more so than any other world leader.. and trudeau being the self involved jerk that he is.. is happy to play anti trump hero even to the extent he destroys the canadian economy.. he doesnt care as long as Hollywood and the elites sing his praises… from US point of view it doesnt really matter but good Canadians are screwed

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  12. qzy says:

    I’m pretty sure President Trump doesn’t like the fact that, everytime he talks to Trudeau, the details of the conversation leak out to the media.

    If Trudeau thinks that behavior will improve his bargaining position, he’s got another thing coming.


    • Turranos says:

      Leave it to POTUS to setup a trap for Justine and “it” will walk right into the trap.


    • Hangtown Bob says:

      he’s got another “THINK” coming.

      FWIW, that was the original saying.


      • qzy says:

        Thanks for the info.

        I was actually thinking about Judas Priests song, “You’ve got another thing comin'”. With choice lyrics like:

        “If you think I’ll sit around as the world goes by
        You’re thinkin’ like a fool ’cause it’s a case of do or die
        Out there is a fortune waitin’ to be had
        You think I’ll let it go you’re mad,”


        “That’s right here’s where the talkin’ ends
        Well listen, this night there’ll be some action spent
        Drive hard I’m callin’ all the shots
        I got an ace card comin’ out of the hole.”

        Could be, Should be Trump’s Anthem.


    • Derek says:

      He doesnt care about his bargaining position though … thats the thing .. he doesnt care about canadas economy … he cares about being the darling of global elites … he will destroy their economy along with chrystia freeloader


      • qzy says:

        I somewhat agree. Let’s drop the hyperbole. Trudeau won’t “destroy” Canada’s economy. He’ll just severely damage it.

        I doubt TRUE Canadians will be happy. I’m not sure what recent immigrants to Canada will think about spending $1,000,000 on a 40 year-old home, on a half acre of property will think. But, I doubt they’ll be happy, as well.


  13. SharkFL says:

    Add this to the upcoming US – Mexico announcement .. expect Mexico to announce that they will begin building a border wall in parts of the open border areas. Gracias Mexico for being good neighbors.


  14. Ezra Levant had another interesting interview with Manny Montenegrino on NAFTA available here:

    The insight offered in their dialog was that Trudeau doesn’t care about securing a deal. He’s using Trump-hate and a NAFTA fail to try to get a ‘patriotic’ vote by ‘standing up to Trump’.

    You can tell from the conversation that both of these serious-minded men are seriously worried about what will happen if both (a) NAFTA goes sideways and (b) Trudeau is successful in rallying voters around his rainbow sparkle flag.


    • LilyLayzell says:

      I watched that interview and it was excellent. Ezra Levant interviewed another economist and the people who understand the consequences of Trudeau’s folly are genuinely alarmed. On the other hand, his poll numbers are going down and he’s in potential legal trouble with the Trudeau Foundation shenanigans, Gropergate and 5 financial violations of some sort. I’m praying he won’t be re-elected in 2019. It’s obvious he is in over his head and is controlled by powers that tell him what to do. Canada needs a President Trump.

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  15. Lindenlee says:

    I think that Trump has a finely-tuned internal sense of right and wrong, and he sees that Trudeau is sacrificing thenlong-term good of his own country to silly agendas and personal nacissism, and to Trump, this is treasonous. That, he despises.

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  16. PotP says:

    The Mexican supply chain is at risk from… Train robberies!

    All the prospects of Mexican ports are put in doubt, as the loads transferred to and from rail become increasingly at risk. Likewise, product from Mexican industry shipped north by rail may be impacted.

    The further MX descends into chaos, the greater the need for the Wall, and the higher the cost of doing business south of the border.


    • Lindenlee says:

      The thievery has really gotten horrible here. About 1/3 of the gasoline is stolen either from pipeline taps or hijacking trucos (cartels do it), and goods coming i to seaports like Veracruz are being stolen, trucks and all. There was a group of 60 trucks, 53′ big ones, full of appliances, toys, etc, found in Puebla, almost full.

      Mexico is going to need help from us in eradicating cartel crime, as we did with ISIS. nothing good will stick if that is not dealt with.

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