An interesting story promoted by Rebel News, highlights the plight of an Amish farmer who operates a private market club for his products. Because his crops, dairy and beef are not sold to the ‘general public,’ and only to those who are members of the private food club, Amos Miller contends he should not be subject to USDA regulations.
Miller’s organic farm operates on century old farming practices. His farm uses no electricity, no tractors, no diesel, no gasoline, and he produces exceptional all natural yields which people are willing to pay top dollar to purchase.
Additionally, because Mr. Miller doesn’t use chemical fertilizer or fuel, his farm has not been impacted by the increased costs that have hit industrial farms. He and his customers are completely unaffected by outside influence.
However, a federal judge ruled that despite his closed members-only market, he must have USDA inspectors for his beef and cattle slaughter processes. Miller does not want to use the regulated and required pharmaceutical antibiotics, and other regulatory processes required by the USDA. He now faces jail time and a $300,000 fine. [Rebel News Article]
While CTH is completely on the side of the Miller farm, it’s not fair to share this story without providing the alternative perspective from the side of the regulatory agencies.
(Via Lancaster Online) – […] “The United States submits that Mr. Miller’s continuing recalcitrance and flouting of the court’s orders requires a robust, more-coercive civil contempt sanction than previously imposed,” government attorneys wrote in its request filed in late July. “Specifically … the court should order him to be incarcerated until he has paid these sums that are long overdue.”
U.S. District Judge Edward G. Smith scheduled a hearing for Sept. 26 at the federal courthouse in Easton for Miller to show why he should not be jailed.
And the government wants Miller’s wife, Rebecca Miller, added as a defendant in the case because she is a co-owner of Miller’s Organic Farm. That will also be addressed at the hearing.
Miller — who has an attorney, but has been filing paperwork on his own — filed a response on Aug. 5 suggesting Smith and the government are “working in concert” in supposedly violating his rights. The filing seeks a stay of the proceedings and indicates Miller plans to appeal issues in which he contends the judge is wrong.
[…] Miller first came to the attention of federal authorities in 2016, when the Food and Drug Administration said it identified Listeria in samples of Miller’s raw milk; the agency found the Listeria to be genetically similar to the bacteria found in two people who developed listeriosis — one of whom died — after consuming raw milk.. (read more)
It’s an interesting issue, specifically interesting because the members of the private food club are in a hold-harmless relationship with the Miller farm.
What do you think?
My husband and I have consumed raw milk for years. The USDA will require Mr. Miller to use practices and follow regulations that not only violate his religious practices, but will effect the product he produces.
We drink raw milk because of its nutritional value. Commercially produced milk has the nutrients cooked out (pasteurization) and is altered through homogenization (https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/know-your-fats/milk-homogenization-heart-disease/#gsc.tab=0).
We believe God makes perfect food.
In addition, the government isn’t all that great at preventing listeria – https://www.cdc.gov/listeria/outbreaks/monocytogenes-06-22/details.html
The USDA (along with the FDA) lords over the biggest poison-infusion industries in the country – food additives, GMO, insecticides, fertilzers, Rx drugs, and killer vaccines. Add the CDC into the mix and you have a well organized depopulation machine.
Just like gambling winnings one may have from their local “club”, the man, the US gov, wants his vig. Thus, Mr. Miller will be sledgehammered by the man to make an example. By the way, I thought that pasteurizing the milk would kill the listeria. Is that so?
My body my choice
What do I think? I’d join the private Amish customer list and enjoy the hell out of their products while flipping a double bird at the Kroger Company and their love of ESG.
The required additives are what’s making are food supply less healthy, and contributes to obesity with all the health issues that go along with that.
Government overreach, the government wanting more tax dollars or protecting a public that doesn’t want government protection?
All of the above, IMHO.
Time to go back to the barter system. They can’t tax what is exchanged without money. If they try, then the 87,000 new IRS agents can spend their days trying to put a dollar value to objects and services…very time consuming!
Don’t underestimate the power of the IRS. 30 years ago they decided the discounted travel of airline employees had ‘value’ and should be taxed. Fueled by some sort of jealousy likely as thousands of other occupations give employee perks that aren’t taxed.
“Genetically similar” is not the same as “the same”.
Also, did the two people who unfortunately died of listeriosis die of listeriosis from one of this farmer’s cows?
Or was it two people who live thousands of miles away?
What is the connection, if there is one?
This may sound like a non-sequitur but if the people who are buying the farmer’s products have not had any medical problems due to ingesting his food there is no reason for the government to go onto his property and inspect anything.
His accuser is not one of his customers it seems. So, who will benefit from this case?
It’s about control, the USDA cannot have anyone producing food outside of their control
Your competition will be the first to report you. Because it costs the competition more to produce what you produce for less. And because of rewards for reporting and because of jealousies and *the righteous mind*.
The Righteous Mind by Jonathan Haidt (leftist) is a great book that describes the psychology of how religion and politics divides us. I have a psychology degree and found it to be excellent. Despite being a leftist, he admits that conservatives actually use more of the mind than leftists. It is well worth the time
Have it! He confesses he’s a Liberal minded Democrat. Your opinion of it is appreciated!
FDA has no such records for year 2016 regarding this farm’s products for alleged literiosis poisoning or product recall.
We should all be Amish,….. or, at least like Mr. Miller.
yeah, all buy locally and grow what we can on our own.
I have lots of Amish neighbors. I admire their lifestyle. But, I personally do not want to live without air conditioning if I can avoid it here in the South.
synagogue of satan can’t create famines unless they get total control
It angers me so much that I can’t comment lest someone is “watching.” DC is a cancer on the country.
Use it. Words are tools. D.C. is the obvious tumor of a cancer that’s metastasized. Removing the tumor will do little to stop the spread. The diseased humans exist across the breadth of government and authority. Examples abound daily.
What’s the local health department position on this Amish farmer thing?
I’m loathe to dive into the weeds on this but, if this synopsis is accurate, it underscores why I support every free American giving .gov the finger…
Miller’s first came to the attention of federal authorities in 2016, when the Food and Drug Administration said it identified Listeria in samples of Miller’s raw milk; the agency found the Listeria to be genetically similar to the bacteria found in two people who developed listeriosis — one of whom died — after consuming raw milk.
2016? The same year PDJT was elected? Heh, can’t make this stuff up.
Big fan of the Amish ways, HOWEVER Buyer beware is the key to purchases. Often expiration dates on their ag products do not exist for them. Some products are old, old, old, etc. Also, careful buying horses from those foxes. Just use caution.
The English must be as savvy as they are.
Have you noticed expired products in grocery stores lately? I have.
Yes! So much more than ever before and I’ve actually become sick from some Turkey that was expired and I wasn’t aware as I ate it the same day I purchased it from Publix.
Born Free…: Yes, all the time. Food retailers are draining the supply chain of older, and, therefore, less costly products and putting those products on grocery shelves. When buying somewhat perishable products, such as olive oil, I always look for the manufacture and expiration dates. Specialty products and products from overseas also warrant special attention.
Do you say these things because of personal experience or are you just repeating things you have heard?
Expiration dates on food has had the effect of causing the consumer to play brain dead.
Population at large buy use a bit and then throw away good food because of a date on the package.
In my opinion the date is only there to cause this turn over effect so more product is purchased.
I am old enough and from a family that used everything.
It is mostly easy and simple to determine if the food is okay or not and if you couple that with good cooking technique there is very little chance of food poisoning.
But it is a skill easily forgotten in the modern world of convenience and avoidance.
Agree. They are BS.
I can’t afford groceries anymore.
Tell the idiots in gubbermint to F off!
It appears the farmer has been doing just that, in the Amish way, for at least six years now.
I think the alternative perspective from the side of the regulatory agencies is bunk, and morally bankrupt. The USDA doesn’t make food healthier and less prone to making people sick. The purpose of the USDA is to control the food supply and make it possible for it to cut off that food supply at any whim of its’ governing officialdom. The actual material that the USDA regulates as food is less nutritious, more toxic and dangerous to the populace at large then before the USDA existed. This is why people are moving to the Amish and others who are using the food production techniques used before the existence of such bureaucratic monsters of totalitarian administrators. Those now working to cut off your food supply because, it would seem, general famine is the plan of the day. So I have no pity for those of you who yearn for someone in some government agency to slip its chains around them.
“The nine most terrifying words in the English language are ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” ~ Ronald Reagan press conference on August 12th, 1986
. . . and no doubt most have already forgotten what the U.S. Bureau of Land Management did to cattle ranchers of the western states in 2014, or what they did to LeVoy Finicum in 2016. Or to even Randy Weaver on August 21, 1992 that would later award him three million dollars for the “mistakes” made by agents of the federal district that murdered his family three decades ago. If you even dare to mention such history you now risk being placed on some list as a domestic terrorist. But then quoting the Constitution of the United States of America does too. Yeah so “alternative perspectives” you should have. All of them. And if you do have any actual intact conscience left these last months of 2022 I salute you.
My Dad was a 30 year USDA meat inspector. There were horror stories of contaminated meats from poor slaughter and processing practices. His role as he saw it was to protect the public, but he would have sided with the Miller’s. If the buyers know what they’re buying too bad. Generally, the public doesn’t know what they’re buying but a co-op is totally different and the USDA should have no role in it at all.
Agree with you. My only answer is to know your farmer and rancher and buy local.
I agree, we need inspection. But we don’t need legalism. The intent of the law must be balanced with self sufficiency and the intent of the Farmer. Abuse of animals, sick animals forced to produce, dead animals tossed in with the rest and muddy worm infested conditions should receive legal attention without the subsidies.
Patriots remember. Our OSP killed Lavoy. More precisely, Brown’s OSP.
BLM didn’t fare so well with Bundy…
The key is groups, aka military fire teams. People who depend on each other and work together towards common mission objectives. Alone we’ll never defeat the humans in government to regain our freedoms, peacefully or not. It’ll never happen.
Else, it’ll end up like Miller, hounded by the scum humans and the systems of torture and control they’ve conjured up to persecute until the end of life. God grants us free will.
I think we are seeing the Democrat fist of fascism smashing a man who is operating harmlessly, beneficially to others and completely in his rights. It is not about food safety, it is about proving they have the power to control anyone, anytime.
It also occurred to me they’re poking the patriot bear again, even though this is an old case from 2016, to add to events like the MAL search, to provoke a violent reaction.
The peaceful, nonviolent Amish have a special place in Americana and the hearts and souls of many Americans. The reactions here are evidence of that.
Will the slumbering giant, sufficiently prodded, awake? IDK. It’s not for the lack of trying.
England prohibits the importation of US chlorine-washed poultry and antibiotic-fed beef.
Just saying…
Too big are the britches of government!
The absolute best outcome here would be for this to go all the way to SCOTUS and reverse Wickard. Justice Thomas has hinted at willingness to revisit that precedent, and it would be even more disruptive to the Deep State than Bruen and Dobbs combined.
Government overreach is reaching a point of negative returns. More people of all past party affiliation or leaning are seeing the light and joining a BACKLASH which will become a tidal wave.
(Mike Pence won’t be able to stop it even with McConnells support)
If you are informed and give consent, that is how it works. The Government just can’t grasp that. Example is the m-RNA shots, the public is not being informed, yet millions have died being forced to take it. DC is corrupt totally.
Hold Harmless agreements will not Hold Up in a courtroom. Most insurance companies will not allow the policyholder to use them because the indefensible broad language presumes innocence, which is up to the Judge.
The foundational argument of Buyer Beware evidences the party using them is irresponsible; protecting self and not the innocent good faith Buyer. Make a Judge angry – submit one in court.
My take on this is that Govt goes for low hanging fruit, identifies a ‘problem’, hires a bunch of pickers that of course should be paid for by the bush owner, regulates it per the Karen’s to incorporate more fees and hire more regulators… Miller is low hanging fruit, and leveling regulations against him will open the door to the govt going after control of and money from Amish farms. This govt is outa control of themselves and out to take away every freedom and $ till no one has anything, and we wont be happy but they will say we are. I hope Miller wins this for the sake of the Amish, and all of us. And then I hope he uses citric acid to wash down his stuff.
I think that the government has a lot more to concern itself with than persecuting some poor Amish farmer – but then that’s the whole issue, isn’t it? The government miserably fails to do what it is constitutionally mandated to do and then goes about pursuing these kinds of crusades that only serve to make it that much more irrelevant.
The Amish need to learn how to defend themselves, since they’re an easy target for these fascists.
One more thing: his customers accept the products as-found per their established commercial relationship, so the buyers themselves are wholly responsible for any negative results of consuming said products… the government should only be involved should a contractual dispute arise between seller and buyer – that, and only that, is a legitimate function of the government.
Especially, as the article points out-Mr Miller has used most all of his fiat currency paying attorneys and so may not have enuf to pay the fines. Well…you DO have this nice piece of farmland! THAT has real value, doesnt it?
They are using the PFSA scam to land grab here in Maine.
Lets not forget the amount of prime farmland the Amish own and have owned for generations…Im certain Bill Gates, Chinese, et al would love to get their hands on. Cases like these set precedent, and precedent can be a deadly weapon for the govt.
Soon the communist will be going after the fruit and vegetable roadside stands.
You can bet seeing the Amish community took a stand for PDJT they will next go after the Amish stands that make breads and other healthy food some of us consume.
Some oversight is necessary for cattle products – meat and milk can carry a host of diseases. We visited a family friend in Wisconsin that owned a farm that processed nothing. My mom wound up getting tapeworm in her gut from the milk. It took her years to get the infestation cleared and she was never quite the same.
It’s really easy to disease test and not expensive. There are many labs who turn around animal tests within a couple of days in receipt of a sample. Where was the failure?
No offense and sorry about your mom – that’s terrible!
I think some regulation is appropriate.
Problem is when you read the article I am not sure whom to trust. We are all aware of ridiculous regs.
If it comes down to it perhaps the farmer ought to stop selling to the public, even if they are consenting adults.
He could still derive income from his butcher shop without too much difficulty. And if he chose, give his milk away building that cost into his other products.
Meat is just as prone to disease as milk.
My idea, which is counter culture, is to produce locally all that is needed for the family and to partner with like minded people thereby avoiding the government, Big Ag, Big Pharma, altogether. That’s what the Amish do and they are quite successful. Purchasing from a grocery store, and not knowing where your meat or milk comes from, is a bigger risk in my humble opinion. McDonald’s sources their beef from Mexico because it’s cheaper than buying American. Just sayin’.
I think risk could and should be up to the individual. And honestly, I think that can apply across the board. We’ve got into the habit of thinking in terms of “the greater good” and not thinking in terms of individual responsibility. I think that is a slippery slope and we’re on the way down.
I think I want to buy some raw milk and grass fed beef from this farmer.
Yep, particularly if they accept barter. No need nor reason to participate in the fiat currency scheme. Increasingly, we’re handling basics that way. Reciprocal gifts.
If that doesn’t attract the government soldiers, well I guess stronger measures will be needed. The goal is nailing down specific human enemies. It’s a process.
The Amish just want to be left alone. Unfortunately, until eradicated, the Communists will never leave them alone. Miller’s six year, or more, journey on this issue is testament. I respect their faith and choices. They are not mine but I support them. Our founders fought and died to create such a safe haven. Patriots will again answer the call.
When I lived in Montana I became friends with some people in the Hutterite community. They are very similar to the Amish in that they speak German and they are Anabaptists. Basically they left the Catholic Church 500 years ago because they wanted to give their children the choice of being baptized. You cannot be baptized in the Hutterite community until you reach 18 years of age. but they try to keep the children as close to the Lord as possible before they make their decision. They segregate themselves as a rule from the world. Therefore they have to produce as much of their own livelihood as possible. I think we could all take a few lessons from these people. Especially with the impending threat of parasite loaded bug diets.
They have large farms in Montana, South Dakota, Washington, Alberta and Saskatchewan called colonies. They have their own schools on the farm where the children go through 8th grade. They have their own church on the farm also. Everyone eats communally but each family has their own house. They raise a lot of animals also and use everything. Very interesting to be able to visit them and become familiar with their way of life.
INFORMED CONSENT.
exactly
When my kids were little I wanted to give them non homogenized milk. I found a Mennonite farmer and purchased it from her. State reps said I had to be owner so she “sold” a portion of her milk cows to her milk customers. State inspectors would come and check her facilities and she always passed. She kept everything spotless sanitized. That was a number of years ago.
Is there a legal fund I can contribute to?
Farm-to-Consumer Legal Defense Fund.
https://www.farmtoconsumer.org/
IDK, it appeared Miller’s own lawyer, of course being a member of the legal club, was exasperated with his lack of cooperation. I wouldn’t give the sweat off my brow to such an intransigent human or any like it.
I hope we’ve become more educated about the realities of the legal community and system during the PDJT era.
Perhaps that old maxim I long heard from my best friend is true. Life is war then you die. He’s dead now. Free.
I wonder if the USDA can provide the source code for the instruments used to calibrate these machines used to test for dangerous bacteria?
I particularly liked the ‘DNA similar to‘ that of bacteria which infected two people. Really?
Reminded me of the Covid double-talk.
…even though taxpayer ( you )
provided funds that paid for the machine and software,
it ( black box ) is supposedly private, proprietary….
( unless the c c p wants it, and / or if the big guy gets 10%)
and as such,
what you paid for is withheld from you,
and as such,
you can not be allowed to verify the contents, accuracy, code, competence etc?
Trust and verify that trust.
Love thy neighbors
Big Pharma and the Big G have killed or maimed about 600,000 people with the clot shots. Instead of going after them, this shiite in black robes goes after…what…Big FARMa. Nope. He goes after an eating club full of people you would love to have babysit your daughters. Gosh, I am so impressed with US “justice”.
I’ll just leave this here, as it seems appropriate:
Long Haired Country Boy
People say I’m no good and crazy as a loon
‘Cause I get stoned in the morning
And get drunk in the afternoon
Kinda like my old blue tick hound I like to lay around in the shade
And I ain’t got no money but I damn sure got it made
‘Cause I ain’t asking nobody for nothin’
If I cant get it on my own
If you don’t like the way I’m livin’ You just leave this long-haired country boy alone
Preacher man talking on T.V. Puttin’ down the rock and roll
Wants me to send a donation ‘Cause he’s worried about my soul
He said Jesus walked on the water And I know that it’s true
But sometimes I think that preacherman Would like to do a little walking too
But I ain’t asking nobody for nothin’ If I cant get it on my own
If you don’t like the way I’m livin’ You just leave this long-haired country boy alone
A poor girl wants to marry
And a rich girl wants to flirt
A rich man goes to college
And a poor man goes to work
A drunkard wants another drink of wine And a politician wants a vote
I don’t want much of nothin’ at all But I will take another toke
But I ain’t asking nobody for nothin’
If I can’t get it on my own
If you don’t like the way I’m livin’
You just leave this long-haired country boy alone
Too many hormones and antibiotics in our USDA approved food!
https://archive.jsonline.com/business/sauk-county-dairy-farmer-loses-raw-milk-appeal-b99313040z1-267499181.html/
We had a similar case here in Wisconsin (ya know “the dairy state”) where an Amish farmer had a “raw milk club”….no one had gotten sick but the state (DATCP agency) decided they should shut him down. He eventually prevailed but they still wanted him “fined” for violating THEIR order and cutting the yellow tape they had used to rope off his fridge and freezer containing the “illegal” products. He also needed a “seller’s permit” from the state (even though none of his products are subject to sales tax)……
From the link “…providing the alternative perspective from the side of the regulatory agencies.”:
“Miller’s attorney, Steven Lafuente, of Dallas, Texas, said, “Amos would have been past this a long time ago had Amos not been listening to extreme advice. … He has this extreme group of people who are very antigovernment. They really bent his ear.
Miller would only be jailed as until he — or his supporters — pay the money the court has ordered, Lafuente said. And it’s possible that Smith might not jail Miller, but instead assign him a probation officer who he would have to check in with and make payments.
Lafuente said the court has given Miller “a lot of opportunity to correct this.””
It seems Amos Miller needs a new attorney willing to fight for him.
Since no party has suffered injury or intent to harm nor filed a complaint of unsafe conditions I’m very interested in how the amount of the fine was determined.
A quarter million dollars is likely not sitting in a savings account. Government agencies like the USDA, US Dept. of Agriculture, have access to his income tax records; they can know how much he can’t pay.
Suspect the full power to force a sale of the farm is the real battle and the example the USDA is provoking.
Refusal of inspection is the mechanism.
Guns and Money are weapons used in both human and spiritual warfare; intimidation, manipulation for domination.
Yep, that was my read as well. Little surprise, Treepers have been commenting on PDJT’s lawyers for years now and he has deep pockets to hire the best and brightest. The elephant in the room is how the legal community pressures and threatens its own members to comply with the predominant narrative in that big brain way that only professional wordsmiths can.
U.S. District Judge Edward G. Smith is a ‘Republican’ nominated by Barack Obama. In August 2017, Smith upheld a Boyertown Area School District policy guaranteeing transgender students use of their preferred locker room.
That’s what I think.
I like your style.
in other words, a libtard and a fuhrer follower
the Food and Drug Administration said it identified Listeria in samples of Miller’s raw milk;
Who found the Listeria, Kevin Clinesmith?
The local article I read dated the listeria issue from 2014, and the association established in 2016 was ‘closely related’ and it appeared the victims were not local to the area, one in Florida, the other in California.
The milk came from Miller’s Organic Farm in Upper Leacock Township, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention posting, which is investigating a listeria outbreak.
The death and illness occurred in 2014, but was only linked to Miller’s in January, after the U.S. Food and Drug Administration notified the agency that genome sequencing of listeria from Miller’s raw chocolate milk was closely related to Listeria from the two people, according to the agency.”
So, the actual events, if Sundance’s/Rebel’s report doesn’t have further listeria infections listed from this year, dates going on a decade ago.
Process is the punishment.
I live in a very rural township in south Jersey. Many farms in he area. People put vegetable on a roadside stand with no one there to monitor, they sell all different kinds of vegetables. They supply bags (paper) for you to put your produce in they charge anywhere from $2 to $5 dollars a bag depending on what you buy! It’s all based on trust! I go there pack a bag with fresh home grown Jersey tomatoes (best in the world) and place a $5 dollar bill in a box with a slot on the top! An honor system more or less.I’ve watched while I waited my turn and never once saw anybody NOT pay.
Now with that said I remember during the Obama administration they tried to stop this practice due to the products mot being regulated or inspected by the USDA! Fortunately it was near the end of his term and it went away when Trump was elected!
The government should just leave us alone! We all did fine before the USDA, yes some people might’ve been afected by something before that, but most people of that era lived into their late 80’s and 90’s! It wouldn’t surprise me if most cancers are caused from the chemicals they put in the food today to “protect” us!
BTW we also do the same on Halloween, just put a table with a bowl of candy and people come and take just what they need, not what they want. Being very rural there’s usually lot of candy left in the bowl.More for me to munch on afterwards. LOL
I think Mr. Miller should compromise and test all his products for listeria, salmonella and e. Coli before offering them to his customers.
In return the government should mind its own business.
I have farm work to do, so I need to scoot, but I’ve enjoyed the conversation, and just want to make a couple of observations.
The story is representative of the situation we find ourselves in where politicians, “leaders”, the government, a group of snooty “elites”, think they have the authority to tell us how to live, what we should eat, where we should live, what we should believe, what we can buy or sell, etc., etc., etc. They even try to sell us on the Why of it all, be it climate change or the greater good or whatever. They want to own our thoughts too.
We are all born free and moving forward, it is each of us individually who get to decide the who, what, where, when, and how, of our lives. That is the basis of Freedom. We can choose God or reject Him. We can eat meat or crickets. We can join groups or not. We can protect our children or give them over to the State. We get to choose. Each of us. Come what may.
That’s the bottom line, IMHO.
Were those who became ill conclusively proven to have consumed Miller’s milk? If not, then there’s no real connection to Miller’s operation. In any case, it should strictly be a matter for State and local health authorities. There’s no Federal nexus.
How many food born illnesses have resulted from this farm and how many have come from USDA controlled food processing facilities. I would bet the Miller farm has never had an instance of a food born illness or contamination. The USDA can’t say that about their facilities.
The more people do like farmer Miller and tell the government to kiss my axe and go pound sand, the more likely Americans can stay free as the Constitution is written and the Founders intended. Unfortunately only PDJT seems to agree with that sentiment.
The drive toward food regulation was in response to increasing urbanization, which dissociated city dwellers from their food sources and the various steps in food processing and distribution. People had no idea where their food came from, who handled it & how, what might have been added to it, or how fresh/wholesome it might be.
This pervasive anonymity is exactly the opposite situation as that surrounding Miller’s farm. His customers know exactly where their food items come from and any harm is strictly limited to Miller’s immediate customers, without the possibility of downstream consequential damages from, say, introducing Miller’s products as ingredients to more widely distributed processed foods.
Miller’s operation, then, should be strictly exempt from any Federal regulatory mandates. State and local mandates could be a different story, and I’m unfamiliar with the applicable State and local laws/regulations in this case. No matter what, though, Miller nevertheless has civil liability to any people directly injured by his products.
The issue here is not what this farmer is doing, it is the right of people to buy the kind of food they want to eat. I cannot disconnect this case from the globalist desire to deny all people (except themselves) the right to eat animal products and other natural foods, instead forcing us to consume highly processed “foods” for which they own the patents (or the companies that own the patents). The way to attack us is by denying farmers the ability to provide the food we want. That will be their method in the coming years.
I wonder what they will do to those of us who grow food for our own consumption? I doubt we will be exempt from their evil efforts.
Not sure if this is just Urban Legend, but weren’t the Amish a huge Trump voter bloc in 2016 that helped him over the goal line to win PA?
Don’t know about huge but is truth not legend. Search “Amish voted trump” and see what comes up.
My son told me it was in rhe neighborhood of 40,000 voting. Will check out your search. Thanks!
Pure, unadulterated, capitalism. Can’t allow that.
When half a nation’s source of income is taxed from the other half, ever more schemes and enforcers are required as the money runs out.
I see mention of “taxes” many places in this topic and the Amish have to pay property taxes.
How do they do that? They must sell goods and or services to the “English” for $.
So the “English” demand tribute and now want to deprive this man a way to generate money to pay said tribute.
If he cannot pay ….
That seems like a perfect example of the problems a “nanny state” creates and is usually followed by an over reaction by the “nannies”. With freedom comes the responsibility of accepting the result of your actions. This happens everyday of your life and the Big Gov professors always want the fault for their poor life decisions to be mediated by the “nanny”.
The people who use the Amish product weigh the risk and have determined the benefit is far greater than the risk. My grandfather was a diary farmer and we always used fresh milk at his house. The milk in the stores is the same color but that is about it.
Our food supply is being tainted and it is no wonder people are looking for alternatives.
The proper response to the FDA’s concerns that some of the farmers products were health hazards should have been to freely test the suspected products and inform the producer of the unhealthy product he is selling and how to clean it up and also inform his customers of the findings….The free market will correct the problem….