Obama Era Political Surveillance, and The Dual Purpose of Fusion GPS…

With research files on the ’15, ’16 and ’17 political surveillance program; including information from the Mueller report and information from the IG Horowitz report; in combination with the Obama-era DOJ “secret research project” (their words, not mine); we are able to overlay the Obama-era domestic IC  operations and gain a full understanding of how political surveillance was conducted over a period of approximately four to six years.

Working with a timeline, but also referencing origination material in 2015/2016 – CTH hopes to show how the program(s) interacted and operated.  A full review explains an evolution from The IRS Files in 2010 to the FISA Files in 2016.

More importantly, the assembly of government reports and public records now indicates a political exploitation of the NSA database, for weaponized intelligence surveillance of politicians, began mid 2012.

The FISA-702 database extraction process, and utilization of the protections within the smaller intelligence community, became the primary process. We start by reviewing the established record from the 99-page FISC opinion rendered by Presiding Judge Rosemary Collyer on April 26th, 2017; and explain the details within the FISC opinion.

I would strongly urge everyone to read the FISC report (full pdf below) because Judge Collyer outlines how the DOJ, which includes the FBI, had an “institutional lack of candor” in responses to the FISA court. In essence, the Obama administration was continually lying to the court about their activity, and the rate of fourth amendment violations for illegal searches and seizures of U.S. persons’ private information for multiple years.

Unfortunately, due to intelligence terminology Judge Collyer’s brief and ruling is not an easy read for anyone unfamiliar with the FISA processes outlined. The complexity also helps the media avoid discussing, and as a result most Americans have no idea the scale and scope of the issues. So we’ll try to break down the language.


For the sake of brevity and common understanding CTH will highlight the most pertinent segments showing just how systemic and troublesome the unlawful electronic surveillance was.

Early in 2016 NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers was alerted of a significant uptick in FISA-702(17) “About” queries using the FBI/NSA database that holds all metadata records on every form of electronic communication.

The NSA compliance officer alerted Admiral Mike Rogers who then initiated a full compliance audit on/around March 9th, 2016, for the period of November 1st, 2015, through May 1st, 2016.

While the audit was ongoing, due to the severity of the results that were identified, Admiral Mike Rogers stopped anyone from using the 702(17) “about query” option, and went to the extraordinary step of blocking all FBI contractor access to the database on April 18, 2016 (keep these dates in mind).

Here are some significant segments:

The key takeaway from these first paragraphs is how the search query results were exported from the NSA database to users who were not authorized to see the material. The FBI contractors were conducting searches and then removing, or ‘exporting’, the results. Later on, the FBI said all of the exported material was deleted.

Searching the highly classified NSA database is essentially a function of filling out search boxes to identify the user-initiated search parameter and get a return on the search result.

FISA-702(16) is a search of the system returning a U.S. person (“702”); and the “16” is a check box to initiate a search based on “To and From“. Example, if you put in a date and a phone number and check “16” as the search parameter the user will get the returns on everything “To and From” that identified phone number for the specific date. Calls, texts, contacts etc. Including results for the inbound and outbound contacts.

FISA-702(17) is a search of the system returning a U.S. person (702); and the “17” is a check box to initiate a search based on everything “About” the search qualifier. Example, if you put a date and a phone number and check “17” as the search parameter the user will get the returns of everything about that phone. Calls, texts, contacts, geolocation (or gps results), account information, user, service provider etc. As a result, 702(17) can actually be used to locate where the phone (and user) was located on a specific date or sequentially over a specific period of time which is simply a matter of changing the date parameters.

And that’s just from a phone number.

Search an ip address “about” and read all data into that server; put in an email address and gain everything about that account. Or use the electronic address of a GPS enabled vehicle (about) and you can withdraw more electronic data and monitor in real time. Search a credit card number and get everything about the account including what was purchased, where, when, etc. Search a bank account number, get everything about transactions and electronic records etc. Just about anything and everything can be electronically searched; everything has an electronic ‘identifier’.

The search parameter is only limited by the originating field filled out. Names, places, numbers, addresses, etc. By using the “About” parameter there may be thousands or millions of returns. Imagine if you put “@realdonaldtrump” into the search parameter? You could extract all following accounts who interacted on Twitter, or Facebook etc. You are only limited by your imagination and the scale of the electronic connectivity.

As you can see below, on March 9th, 2016, internal auditors noted the FBI was sharing “raw FISA information, including but not limited to Section 702-acquired information”.

In plain English the raw search returns were being shared with unknown entities without any attempt to “minimize” or redact the results. The person(s) attached to the results were named and obvious. There was no effort to hide their identity or protect their 4th amendment rights of privacy:

But what’s the scale here? This is where the story really lies.

Read this next excerpt carefully.

The operators were searching “U.S Persons”. The review of November 1, 2015, to May 1, 2016, showed “eighty-five percent of those queries” were unlawful or “non compliant”.

85% !! “representing [redacted number]”.

We can tell from the space of the redaction the number of searches were between 1,000 and 9,999 [five digits]. If we take the middle number of 5,000 – that means 4,250 unlawful searches out of 5,000.

The [five digit] amount (more than 1,000, less than 10,000), and 85% error rate, was captured in a six month period, November 2015 to April 2016.

Also notice this very important quote: “many of these non-compliant queries involved the use of the same identifiers over different date ranges.” This tells us the system users  were searching the same phone number, email address, electronic “identifier”, or people, repeatedly over different dates.

Specific people were being tracked/monitored.

Additionally, notice the last quote: “while the government reports it is unable to provide a reliable estimate of” these non lawful searches “since 2012, there is no apparent reason to believe the November 2015 [to] April 2016 coincided with an unusually high error rate”.

That means the 85% unlawful FISA-702(16)(17) database abuse has likely been happening since 2012.

2012 is an important date in this database abuse because a network of specific interests is assembled that also shows up in 2016/2017:

  • Who was 2012 FBI Director? Robert Mueller, who was selected by the FBI group to become special prosecutor in 2017.
  • Who was Mueller’ chief-of-staff? Aaron Zebley, who became one of the lead lawyers on the Mueller special counsel.
  • Who was 2012 CIA Director?  John Brennan (remember the ouster of Gen Petraeus)
  • Who was ODNI? James Clapper.
  • Remember, the NSA is inside the Pentagon (Defense Dept) command structure. Who was Defense Secretary?  Ash Carter
  • Who wanted NSA Director Mike Rogers fired?  Brennan, Clapper and Carter.
  • And finally, who wrote and signed-off-on the January 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment and then lied about the use of the Steele Dossier?  John Brennan, James Clapper

Tens of thousands of searches over four years (since 2012), and 85% of them are illegal. The results were extracted for?…. (I believe this is all political opposition use; and I’ll explain why momentarily.)

OK, that’s the stunning scale; but who was involved?

Private contractors with access to “raw FISA information that went well beyond what was necessary to respond to FBI’s requests“:

And as noted, the contractor access was finally halted on April 18th, 2016.

[Coincidentally (or not), the wife of Fusion-GPS founder Glenn Simpson, Mary Jacoby, goes to the White House the next day on April 19th, 2016.]

None of this is conspiracy theory.

All of this is laid out inside this 99-page opinion from FISC Presiding Judge Rosemary Collyer who also noted that none of this FISA abuse was accidental in a footnote on page 87: “deliberate decisionmaking“:

This specific footnote, if declassified, would be key. Note the phrase: “([redacted] access to FBI systems was the subject of an interagency memorandum of understanding entered into [redacted])”, this sentence has the potential to expose an internal decision; withheld from congress and the FISA court by the Obama administration; that outlines a process for access and distribution of surveillance data.

Note: “no notice of this practice was given to the FISC until 2016“, that is important.

Summary of this aspect: The FISA court identified and quantified tens-of-thousands of search queries of the NSA/FBI database using the FISA-702(16)(17) system. The database was repeatedly used by persons with contractor access who unlawfully searched and extracted the raw results without redacting the information and shared it with an unknown number of entities.

The outlined process certainly points toward a political spying and surveillance operation; and we are not the only one to think that’s what this system is being used for.

Back in 2017 when House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes was working to reauthorize the FISA legislation, Nunes wrote a letter to ODNI Dan Coats about this specific issue:

SIDEBAR: To solve the issue, well, actually attempt to ensure it never happened again, NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers eventually took away the “About” query option permanently in 2017. NSA Director Rogers said the abuse was so inherent there was no way to stop it except to remove the process completely. [SEE HERE] Additionally, the NSA database operates as a function of the Pentagon, so the Trump administration went one step further. On his last day as NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers -together with ODNI Dan Coats- put U.S. cyber-command, the database steward, fully into the U.S. military as a full combatant command. [SEE HERE]  Unfortunately it didn’t work as shown by the 2018 FISC opinion rendered by FISC Judge James Boasberg [SEE HERE]

There is little doubt the FISA-702(16)(17) database system was used by Obama-era officials, from 2012 through April 2016, as a way to spy on their political opposition.

Quite simply there is no other intellectually honest explanation for the scale and volume of database abuse that was taking place; and keep in mind these searches were all ruled to be unlawful.  Searches for repeated persons over a period time that were not authorized.

When we reconcile what was taking place and who was involved, then the actions of the exact same principle participants take on a jaw-dropping amount of clarity.

All of the action taken by CIA Director Brennan, FBI Director Comey, ODNI Clapper and Defense Secretary Ashton Carter make sense. Including their effort to get NSA Director Mike Rogers fired.

Everything after March 9th, 2016, had a dual purpose:  (1) done to cover up the weaponization of the FISA database. [Explained Here] Spygate, Russia-Gate, the Steele Dossier, and even the 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment (drawn from the dossier and signed by the above) were needed to create a cover-story and protect themselves from discovery of this four year weaponization, political surveillance and unlawful spying. Even the appointment of Robert Mueller as special counsel makes sense; he was FBI Director when this began. (2) They needed to keep surveillance ongoing.

The beginning decision to use FISA(702) as a domestic surveillance and political spy mechanism appears to have started in/around 2012. Perhaps sometime shortly before the 2012 presidential election and before John Brennan left the White House and moved to CIA. However, there was an earlier version of data assembly that preceded this effort.

Political spying 1.0 was actually the weaponization of the IRS. This is where the term “Secret Research Project” originated as a description from the Obama team. It involved the U.S. Department of Justice under Eric Holder and the FBI under Robert Mueller. It never made sense why Eric Holder requested over 1 million tax records via CD ROM, until overlaying the timeline of the FISA abuse:

The IRS sent the FBI “21 disks constituting a 1.1 million page database of information from 501(c)(4) tax exempt organizations, to the Federal Bureau of Investigation.” The transaction occurred in October 2010 (link)

Why disks? Why send a stack of DISKS to the DOJ and FBI when there’s a pre-existing financial crimes unit within the IRS. All of the evidence within this sketchy operation came directly to the surface in early spring 2012.

The IRS scandal was never really about the IRS, it was always about the DOJ asking the IRS for the database of information. That is why it was transparently a conflict when the same DOJ was tasked with investigating the DOJ/IRS scandal. Additionally, Obama sent his chief-of-staff Jack Lew to become Treasury Secretary; effectively placing an ally to oversee/cover-up any issues. As Treasury Secretary Lew did just that.

Lesson Learned – It would appear the Obama administration learned a lesson from attempting to gather a large opposition research database operation inside a functioning organization large enough to have some good people that might blow the whistle.

The timeline reflects a few months after realizing the “Secret Research Project” was now worthless (June 2012), they focused more deliberately on a smaller network within the intelligence apparatus and began weaponizing the FBI/NSA database. If our hunch is correct, that is what will be visible in footnote #69:

How this all comes together in 2019

Fusion GPS was not hired in April 2016 to research Donald Trump. As shown in the evidence provided by the FISC, the intelligence community was already doing surveillance and spy operations. The Obama administration already knew everything about the Trump campaign, and were monitoring everything by exploiting the FISA database.

However, after the NSA alerts in/around March 9th, 2016, and particularly after the April 18th shutdown of contractor access, the Obama intelligence community needed Fusion GPS to create a legal albeit ex post facto justification for the pre-existing surveillance and spy operations. Fusion GPS gave them that justification in the Steele Dossier.

That’s why the FBI small group, which later transitioned into the Mueller team, were so strongly committed to and defending the formation of the Steele Dossier and its dubious content.

The Steele Dossier, an outcome of the Fusion contract, contains two purposes: (1) the cover-story and justification for the pre-existing surveillance operation (protect Obama); and (2) facilitate the FBI counterintelligence operation against the Trump campaign (assist Clinton).

An insurance policy would be needed. The Steele Dossier becomes the investigative virus the FBI wanted inside the system. To get the virus into official status, they used the FISA application as the delivery method and injected it into Carter Page. The FBI already knew Carter Page; essentially Carter Page was irrelevant, what they needed was the FISA warrant and the Dossier in the system {Go Deep}.

Fusion GPS was not only hired to research Trump, the intelligence community was already doing surveillance and spy operations. The intelligence community needed Fusion GPS to give them a plausible justification for already existing surveillance and spy operations.

Fusion-GPS gave them the justification they needed for a FISA warrant with the Steele Dossier. Ultimately that’s why the Steele Dossier is so important; without it, the DOJ and FBI would be naked with their FISA-702 abuse as outlined by John Ratcliffe.


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320 Responses to Obama Era Political Surveillance, and The Dual Purpose of Fusion GPS…

  1. All roads lead to Obama.

    Liked by 7 people

    • Conservative Tea says:

      Damn skippy!!

      Liked by 1 person

      • J.Thomas says:

        Republicans need to seize on this moment to reframe the Dems as falling into their old anti-civil rights ways.

        Slavery, Jim Crow, and now using all aspects of government to oppress political opponents, including the IRS, media, FBI, CIA, and NSA to maintain corruption.

        Republicans need to message this across the board and ask the American people to hold them accountable at the polls.

        Its simple…frame them as Castro, Stalin, Mao, etc, and contrast that with free people. Its the conflict of our time…corrupt elites using everything in their power to squash common people across the world.


    • Roni says:

      Obama, Jarrett, Holder, Brennan, Clapper, Mueller


      • namberak says:

        Concur. I would posit, however, that BHO used Jarrett to deliver instructions, leaving himself with “plausible deniability.” The whole thing reminds me of the fact that, despite the capture of millions of pages of documents and who knows how many interrogations of surviving perps and victims, there’s not a single shred of first hand evidence that Hitler ordered the Holocaust. I’d make it even money that nothing’s ever found on paper where BHO ordered this relentless police state spying.

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        • vladdy says:

          And I was just reading on “RealClearPolicy” about how the head of the Nat’l Archives is o disturbed because masses of records/documents/information from the O admin that it was supposed to save for them are “destroyed or missing.” No wonder O plans a basketball court and a recording studio for his monument (“not a library” he says–no wonder) in Chicago—nothing to put into a library, so he prob won’t have one.

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      • Pat Thomas says:

        Don’t forget the Pant-Suit-Pig…

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  2. joeknuckles says:

    This is a great article about the origin of the fake investigation.



  3. “If he (Trump) wins, we’ll all hang”.


  4. Tparty says:

    It’s up to us now ….

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  5. VandalizeDuhMastuhsAlgorithms says:

    For me, the big ugly has begun when we see General Mike Flynn exhonerated. Not just case dismissed, oops sorry about that, let’s all just pretend we didn’t make life miserable for him, his family and friends.

    No! What about his Nation he served for so many years? What about We the People, and our Constitution, that he signed up to defend against ALL enemies, Foreign and DOMESTIC?

    He has suffered much for all of us and for the things we hold most dear.

    I wish I knew more of the life stories of the Signers of our Declaration of Independence
    I understand only that many of them did in fact loose their lives and fortunes.

    I add to this thread because I see a clear connection between Gen. Flynn’s circumstances and the abuse of this personal information at the hands of corrupt people, in government employment or not. The temptation is just too powerful.

    If it can happen to Gen. Flynn, it likely was/is/will happen to any/all of us.

    … And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.

    So help us all, God.


  6. Fundamentally, though, “we have created a technological monster that we don’t know how to control.” The 1970’s era FISA process was completely gamed. And, 2001’s PATRIOT Act has exposed all of us to dangers that we never imagined – and were never allowed to know about. Grotesque amounts of information were revealed … to government minions … and the President’s authorizing signature was no longer needed on any of it.

    “A nation consists of its millions of citizens.” You can’t have national security if they aren’t secure, and what we have done away with here is the right to be safe against “unreasonable search.” We really don’t know where the information is going, where and how it can be used. And, no one has any personal say in the matter. Is this “national security?” I think it is the opposite.

    It shocks me to think that Washington simply wanted these laws to be “re-authorized, forever.” Both of them need to be scrapped. We must learn the “lessons learned” that confront all of us now. We must craft better laws. Both of these have failed us completely.

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    • NannyG says:

      Great points.
      Dems might throw a bone to the “right” by allowing the exoneration of Carter Page or Gen Flynn, but their SYSTEM for destroying anyone who stands in their way remains in place!
      Should a person want to mount a run for office who might help scrap the old FISA laws or dismantle the NSA, all these career Dem gov’t imbeds need to do is illegally mine his NSA history for blackmailable tidbits.
      Then sneak those into the media or even a pull off a private blackmail attempt.

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  7. TradeBait says:

    Some really, really great analysis, sundance. Soetoro and gang need to fry over this.

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  8. X XYZ says:

    We haven’t heard one peep out of the FISA court judges who approved the warrants, who rubber stamped them and renewed them. “Held accountable”??? HA!

    The judges are hiding under their bench hoping we never find out who signed off on them.

    “We gotta keep our phony baloney jobs, gentlemen!”

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    • Beau Geste says:

      The FISC judges thought hillary would win, and their complete failure to protect the Constitution would remain secret.

      The FISC still hasn’t cleaned up their mess by withdrawing their fraudulent, illegal FISA, or disciplining the DOJ/FBI lawyers and evidence-swearers, which demonstrates their complicity.
      I wonder how many of these FISC appointees (+family or associates) have been agents, assets, or communicators with/for the CIA/FBI ??


    • Amy2 says:

      How about a comment from Roberts?


      • LEET says:


        He can’t comment. He is compromised. I wonder what exactly the search query found on Roberts?!

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      • X XYZ says:

        Judges don’t peep. Judges don’t tweet. Judges like Roberts learned how to stick their finger in the wind, and decide which way it is blowing. Then they decide how to control us.
        So did Slick Willie (who raised politics to the ultimate art form). So did King George Bush II who came after him and realized ‘Hey, I can do that, too!”

        I’ll do anything you want, and I’ll be anything you want me to be. Prostitution? (Ahem.)

        “Let me entertain you, let me make you smile.”

        Roberts and Ginsburg have it made. They control our lives, we have no further say in this matter, and they never need to run for office, or ever to be elected by us.

        The Pope has the same type of life tenure and permanent control over Catholics. The US Supreme Court now has power over everyone in America.

        Presidents come and presidents go. Supreme Court justices can outlive them all. Unless one judge talks much too much and is unusually silenced – unexpectedly. When that happens, that judge is very soon forgotten.

        Draw your own conclusions.

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  9. Austin Holdout says:

    And then we have people like “Colonel” Vindman working at the NSA.

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  10. TrumpPatriot says:

    Was General Petraeus an early victim of the spying? Bush was President until 2008 when Obama was elected. The comment referenced to Hillary Clinton that they would all “swing from nooses” if Trump was elected, has always puzzled me. There is evidence of spying, ( IRS files in White House) prior to the election of Bush or Obama. The letter at the Bush funeral mystery still lingers. President Trump’s distain for McCain had deeper roots than yet exposed. Whatever was going on seems to have been in high gear for Maxine Waters to have information as early as 2013. Lots of loose ends.

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  11. Rowdyone says:

    Does anyone disagree that this political spying would have been employed against any and all Republican candidates opposing Hillary Clinton and her graft machine? I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that political Intelligence was gathered and contingency plans were developed for use against some or all of the Republican candidates in 2016 and perhaps going back to Romney’s campaign in 2008. Obama is the common denominator. The NSA database to combat terrorism is the misappropriated tool.

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  12. owtolunch says:

    Wait til it is revealed there were FISA’s on Flynn, Papadopoulus, Page, Manafort, and CRUZ.

    It will make the re-authorization of the FISA Laws in March of 2020 a big controversy… With this latest IG Report it has already brought up serious debate.

    They were all being spied upon.. It began as soon as Obama started using the IRS to focus upon the Tea Party and their supporting organizations… Pure political attacks using Eric Holder to keep any complaints at bay. Obama and his staff, Brennan and Clapper and Comey, Holder had their backs…everything was was fair game.. no holds barred. Sally Yates and Loretta Lynch followed through.

    Do you really think that with all the intelligence capability and information at their fingertips they would not be searching and gathering information on all people that they could use to impact their opponents? Of course they did… with impunity…

    They used anyone they could to chase down as much information as possible to try to destroy their enemies. There was no limit to their efforts… Look how many Clinton/Soros linked people were working together… A whole crew of Lawfare lawyers, Atlantic Council Members, Crowdstrike, Ukrainian & Russian Oligarchs, European intelligence agencies, 5-eyes, corrupt members of house and senate, IRS, State Department, DOJ, FBI, CIA…Judges…

    The makeup and number of players is tremendous… If this is all revealed it will become very ugly. It will take years to bring them all to justice.

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    • nimrodman says:

      Wait til it is revealed there were FISA’s on Flynn, Papadopoulus, Page, Manafort, and CRUZ.

      No, I don’t think so

      The “sinisters” don’t need FISAs to spy on people. Most of Sundance’s explanation up top is how they went about spying on people WITHOUT FISAs. They had “contractors” placed at the NSA database computer terminals doing queries unemcumbered and exporting results. No FISA required.

      They only needed a FISA on Page / Trump campaign because they wanted that investigation to be on the books. If for no other reason than to smear Candidate Trump by revealing that “he’s under investigation”. But also to justify all the prior spying they already did. And to create the “Russia! Russia! Russia!” narrative.

      But they don’t need a FISA to spy

      I mean – legally – they’re supposed to
      But does it sound like they’ve been following the rules?

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    • CM-TX says:

      They also thought they could ERASE the INTERNET (ie. ALL the EVIDENCE of their WRONGDOING)….. 🤣

      They sorely underestimated how many concerned individuals (WORLDWIDE) were paying attention– for DECADES! They’ve been running in circles, on a wild GOOSE-CHASE… only to find the shizit keeps RESURFACING.

      (The Internet really is FOREVER, Fools!)😉


    • owtolunch says:

      4 FISA cases identified in Loretta Lynch testimony. .. pages 66-67. Sheila Jackson Lee questioned her and Lynch’s lawyer objected saying the four were under FISA investigation … So yes- there are four FISAs – just not clearly or openly identified anywhere else…

      Here is a link with the actual excerpted pages..


  13. Bob Langabeer says:

    Is it any wonder that the Brexit vote happened, that Donald Trump happened, that Boris Johnson happened.
    It is interesting that the MSM had polls that said that these things would NOT happen or in the case of BoJo it would be a very SLIM majority.
    We the people are pissed off with the “ruling class”
    The world needs more LEADERS like DJT
    Unless something unforeseen happens, I believe that the USA has 5 more years of MAGA
    A VERY envious Canadian


  14. VoteOutIncumbents says:

    What still shocks is how there is no interest in this…the greatest political scandal in American history by the mainstream media. Are they ALL corrupt? Are they scared? Are they getting paid off? Surely, there must be reporters beyond Solomon, Attkinson, and a few others who have seen this evil. How has there been a near total failure of the press to at least look into this project. It can only be described as a political project. A means of mass spying put into effect by Obama. It’s all so shocking. Where’s congress? Even the Democrats should be appalled but they’re not. Something is very wrong.

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  15. We the people know says:

    It’s worth widening our view.

    Access to the most comprehensive data base in existence opens up gigantic opportunities.
    This data base access is probably way bigger than political spying. It could be the biggest reward system ever devised and it doesn’t cost the deep state anything. Your prize for helping the deep state? A good old fashioned super-market sweep with a shopping cart … grabbing any and all the information you want! OR, like renting out the Lincoln bedroom, you could charge for access. Perhaps it cost a million dollars for one day’s access for a top bank or insurance company or investment company? Imagine that you’re Lloyd Blankfein and you could access an NSA terminal.
    What if he had market-moving information for 5 years?

    What if you were a consumer products company and wanted to know all about your competitors product launches?

    What if you were a defense contractor?

    Imagine sitting at a terminal that gave you access to every American, every American company, every government agency?

    The potential for money making is off the charts. ALL the insider information your heart desires.

    You could become the most successful stock picker on the planet if you were interested in pharmaceutical stocks, technology stocks, patents, medical devices, pending drug trials, pending earnings reports, pending litigation, pending criminal investigations, pending SEC investigations?

    You could become the biggest blackmailer on the planet.

    Every single time someone was making a query, they were spying.

    The only way to crack the case is to look at every person who was accessing the data base and to list all of their searches.

    Can that be done or did Mike delete all the evidence to save his own life?

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    • riflema says:

      Agreed 1000% Handily, people such as McCabe happen to have wealthy wives as cover for their opulent lifestyles (911 GT3 for a mid level fed bureaucrat?). Like James Bulger’s golden lottery ticket, wallpaper to cover skullduggery comes in many designs and easily deflects lazy MSM truth seekers.

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    • fonald says:

      The BEST TAKE on the implications of this problem. Which apparently, still hasnt been solved.


  16. Bulldog84 says:

    Reminder: FusionNellie aka Mrs. Bruce Ohr was granted her ham radio license in May, 2016.

    As a related aside, perhaps I’ve said this before, but who in the world believes that all of the info from FusionNellie and FusionGlen only went one-way? I’ve long suspected Bruce’s neglect to officially disclose the extent of his family’s receipt of funds from FusionGlen had a more nefarious purpose. Was Ohr was relying on his relationships within DOJ/FBI to provide Fusion with information on matters pertinent to Fusion’s wealthy clients? If Fusion had a client being investigated, was Bruce able to provide the inside scoop? In summary, there’s no way in Hades I buy the explanation that Bruce was only protecting his wife’s pathetic income source from Fusion. I think Bruce is as crooked as crooked can be.

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    • anthonydog says:

      Frank Marshall Davis also used a Ham radio and Morse code to his Soviet masters. …Question is…Who was Nellie contacting on her cloaking device Ham radio? Her family ties are interesting.


  17. Mongo Mere Pawn says:

    First time I’m concerned about Admiral Rogers. All testimony concerns “we” as though the entire NSA at fault for improper 702 database surveillance. No mention of subcontractors abusing the process intentionally and offloading results to parts unknown. Also, he suggests only a “handful” of Americans surveilled improperly, which may be true, but is not the vibe eventually given off by Collyer’s opinion. He clearly knows who those handful of Americans are, and his trip to Trump Tower implies that at least one or more of them are Donald Trump or associated with his campaign. And his testimony concerning the purging of all surveillance results on the Americans indicates the evidence for the abuse is now gone.

    Of course, this public testimony could just be Swamp Theater to reassure constituents that “Mom” is not under surveillance, and he could have given more damning testimony in closed session, but his attitude toward the abuse documented by College’s opinion is clearly incongruent. He’s bothered by what he found, but not enough to sound any alarms for the public.


    • Bulldog84 says:

      I wouldn’t be concerned about the admiral. He acted honorably and in a manner consistent with his responsibilities. It was not his job to sound public alarms, but instead to report to the proper authorities. He reported the abuse to the FISA court and (we may assume) the president-elect.

      I never thought the admiral’s trip to Trump Tower after the election involved any specific warnings (i.e., that the place was wired or that the campaign could be infiltrated). I always assumed it was a general notification of the abuse that had taken place, similar to the admiral’s visit to the FISA court to report what he knew about it. Trump clearly got the message and acted out of an abundance of caution.


      • CM-TX says:

        Not to discount his efforts… but I’ve long suspected it was more about self-preservation. Rodgers saw the writing on the wall… he knew they’d try to pin the abuse on him, then stand back & watch him fall.


    • CM-TX says:

      It’s the FBI & their Private Contractors who are the bigger PROBLEM. There’s an audit/REPORT re. that abuse (posted a while back)… the numbers are staggering!

      That access should have only been available to a confined number of individuals… within a single agency… & having multiple layers of PROTECTIONS in place. (Snowden tried to WARN us).

      But it did NOT… erebody & their friends had open-ACCESS! 🤨


      • We the people know says:

        I was trying to define “Private Contractors” or who the private contractors could have been working for…yes, the numbers are staggering.


  18. Zippy says:

    Absolutely incredible abuse of the system supposedly set up to stop terrorists, abuse which makes Watergate look like nothing. Unless a WHOLE BUNCH of people are sent to “Epstein quality” PRISONS and not Fed resorts this will not be deterred from happening again, they’ll just use what they’ve learned and not make the same mistakes next time. Also, the ONLY reason we know about ANY of this is because Trump won. Consider THAT.

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  19. brycebuchanan375081664 says:

    When do the hangings begin?

    Liked by 1 person

    • CM-TX says:

      EASY, When we get there! Followed by citizen arrests… then the stocks + mini-trials by We The People! Let the Games begin! 😉👍🇺🇸


  20. Roger Holberg says:

    I believe that this article is entirely correct. I do think, however, that the Steele dossier was a “Hail Mary” attempt to ‘re-establish a clandestine conduit back into the Trump campaign by supplying the “foreign” predicate for a FISA warrant. They had lost such access when Admiral Rogers ended private contractor access and a criminal surveillance warrant would have required probable cause of a crime being committed and that didn’t exist. So they needed a foreign intelligence pretext (and a complicit FBI) and miraculously the dossier appears. I imagine that, if we can ever obtain a list of the private contractors that had access to the 702 database, it will include Fusion GPS. Possibly LawFare, as well.


    • Roger Holberg says:

      If you want a real insight into at least part of what was going on, re-read the CTH article and then go to YouTube, search “Maxine Waters and Obama’s database 2013,” and play it. It’s only a minute and nine seconds long and there isn’t anything worthwhile until 0:25. I urge everyone to do this. You won’t believe it but wackjob Waters has revealed the whole stinking mess. And where was the DNC’ s server last thought to be? Give you a hint, it’s a foreign country whose name begins with the letter ‘U’.


  21. minnesotamike55 says:

    And it continues to this day with Fusion GPS as the front group all over the media trying to discredit anything that might expose them. For the life of me I still don’t understand how Glenn Simpson FGPS was able to meet with the Russian lawyer before and after the Trump tower meeting and democrats still say this was Trump team soliciting foreign help. For crying out loud, the Russian lawyer contacted Don Jr to set it up! WTF
    And related, ya think FGPS wasn’t involved in Loretta Lynch granting a special status for the Russian lawyer in order for her to stay in the country and take that meeting at Trump tower?


  22. Aja says:

    Sundance, do we know whether Fusion GPS was among the private contractors allowed to use the Database extraction process before April 2016? Do we know whether George Pappadopoulos or Carter Page had data extracted whether it be 702 (16) (17) by private contractors or even any intelligence agency prior to Rogers shutting down the process? Seems to me that it would be reasonable to assume that non compliant data from phone logs of Page or Pappy or even their content to foreign entities would give the CIA or FBI an excuse to get a FISA warrant


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