NAFTA Update: President Trump Notes Progress With Mexico on Bilateral Trade – Preparing Different BiLat Terms For Canada…

Earlier today U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer messaged a warm birthday greeting to Mexican Foreign Secretary Louis Videgaray during ongoing negotiations between the U.S. and Mexican trade teams (video below).

Canada is FUBAR. No-one quite knows how FUBAR Canada is, because no-one has  followed the brilliant Wolverine crew closely enough to spot the strategy.

At the strategic direction of President Trump; and it is a really brilliant workaround strategy; the U.S. and Mexican teams are approaching the current NAFTA negotiations from a position of bilateral trade.   Trade watchers, Wall Street experts, financial pundits and the entire media apparatus are missing what Team USA are doing right in front of their faces…. they’ve obviously never followed or studied Trump’s out of the box problem solving when it comes to complex deals.

I won’t rehash the NAFTA flaws; familiar CTH readers know them well.  However, the bottom line is NAFTA is NOT, repeat N.O.T being renegotiated. I was going to remain silent, but I think it’s safe, Lighthizer is close enough to a deal to explain what’s happening.

The problems with NAFTA are systemic; and there is too much political and multinational lobbyist conniving/scheming; and too many political interests are connected to the current NAFTA.  Everyone thinks Trump is renegotiating NAFTA; that’s just what Team Wolverine want everyone to think… that allows the team maneuvering space.

After the end of Round #6 (January 2018), it was obvious to POTUS Trump a NAFTA renegotiated deal was impossible.  In March, 2018, Team Trump stealthily began moving in a different direction.  In June,2018, Canada accidentally made the admission there were no ongoing talks between the U.S. and Canada.  The reasoning is simple.

Without drawing any attention to the shift, Trump put NAFTA in the corner and began an entirely new bilateral trade discussion with Mexico. [Forgetaboudit… just leave NAFTA over there; but let people think what we are doing is NAFTA]

Instead of following customary sequential steps: (1) waiting for endless NAFTA negotiations that can never be resolved; (2) and then announcing NAFTA withdrawal; (3) and then dealing with the political and financial backlash; (4) and then beginning bilateral trade discussions, etc. etc.  Team Trump brilliantly and quietly strategized an end-around.

Team U.S.A. reversed the sequencing (but didn’t announce it).

  1. Negotiate the Mexico bilateral.
  2. Announce the Mexican bilateral agreement.
  3. Offer Canada a bilateral (slightly different terms).
  4. Announce the Canadian bilateral agreement.
  5. Dissolve NAFTA.

Instead of beginning new trade deals with NAFTA being ended, they end the new trade deals with NAFTA being ended.

Ergo, no political backlash and no political influence. By the time anyone realizes NAFTA is dead – it’s moot.  No formal exit strategy is needed because new deals are already on the books.

See the play?

Everyone thinks NAFTA is being renegotiated, it isn’t.

(Reuters) – U.S. President Donald Trump said on Friday that the United States and Mexico were making progress on a trade deal, and warned Canada he would tax their auto exports if an agreement cannot be reached with Ottawa.

“Deal with Mexico is coming along nicely. Autoworkers and farmers must be taken care of or there will be no deal. New President of Mexico has been an absolute gentleman,” Trump said on Twitter.

“Canada must wait. Their Tariffs and Trade Barriers are far too high. Will tax cars if we can’t make a deal!” he said. (read more)

Are you laughing yet?

You should be.

Few can see what he’s doing.

I just keep laughing…. this is what we get when a brilliant businessman is POTUS.


OK, so now we all know the secret… we can watch and laugh together.

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257 Responses to NAFTA Update: President Trump Notes Progress With Mexico on Bilateral Trade – Preparing Different BiLat Terms For Canada…

  1. Snow White says:

    The winnamins baby always makes me laugh 😄😄😄.

    Liked by 34 people

  2. lastinillinois says:

    Canada, it seems, is about to become North Buffalo.

    Liked by 23 people

    • fleporeblog says:

      Canada 🇨🇦 will pay for what they did during the G7 to our President and his Killers. They nearly took out our Koala 🐨. Larry Kudlow suffered a heart attack on Monday (48 hours after the G7).

      The G7 concluded on Saturday. The day after he was interviewed and you could feel his pain come through the tv. He was devastated and demoralized because of what Justin from Canada pulled off when our President got in the air to Singapore 🇸🇬 for the Summit with Kim.

      Peter Navarro went on tv and stated their was a special place in HELL for Justin. I knew on that Monday night that Justin was going to pay like it was nobody’s business.

      The pain he will feel maybe even worse than what Xi will feel! You mess with our Killers and you will get the LION 🦁!

      Liked by 53 people

    • maggie0987 says:

      Just to show you how delusional the Canadian government is read this Canadian Broadcasting item from today…. they think the NAFTA talks are still on.

      Liked by 12 people

      • lastinillinois says:

        Wow, delusional is absolutely correct.

        Did anyone tell them that obama/hillary lost and being too cowardly to face reality is no longer chic?

        Liked by 9 people

      • Bullseye says:

        Nah, for the public consumption, they have the uninformed there also. Justine from Canada trying to keep a secret and MSM Canada covering his tracks

        Liked by 8 people

      • favill says:

        Canadian here. Please realize the CBC (Canadian Broadcasting Corporation) is seen by all conservative Canadians as the propaganda arm of the Liberal Party (the party of Trudeau). Nobody takes it seriously–unless it’s reporting hockey scores. Many of us conservative Canadians implored PM Harper to shut down the CBC during his tenure. You folks in the States might as well refer to it as Canadian Pravda.

        Liked by 23 people

        • Screaming eagle says:

          Thank you Sir. Best we all help each other out as to who is who. CBC is the cousin of our CNN, and its retarded sister MSNBC. All arms of the Democratic Socialist Rulers, but now we know the CIA and FBI are into the bargain too. Good to know .

          Liked by 5 people

        • bud klatsch says:

          I have a friend that quotes articles from the Toronto Star often in his criticism of PDJT. Where does the Star stand on the political spectrum, eh? Thanks


        • Borealis says:

          I need to make a slight corection: a lot of consevative Canadians, including this one, don’t see CBC at all. Not even for the hockey scores.

          Liked by 2 people

          • donna kovacevic says:

            Agree. Never do I turn to CBC for anything. Get my sports scores on TSN.I used to like Peter Mansbridge many moons ago, but don’t know if he is still on and his ex loonie wifeee Windy Wendy!


      • Isman says:

        This is another article from Thurs or Fri. Talk about your classic “head in the sand”.

        Canada-Mexico relations: A lifeboat in turbulent trade waters

        Relations between the United States and its trading partners are at their lowest ebb since the imposition of the 1930 Smoot-Hawley Tariff that triggered the Great Depression. Canada’s sales to the United States represent some 76 per cent of its total merchandise exports, putting Canadian businesses in the path of the hurricane. But Canada has an ally. In 1994, the economies of Canada and Mexico were united – for better or worse – through the North American free-trade agreement.

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  3. KBR says:

    Call it what you want.

    The new NAFTA is now going to be made up of (at least) two bilateral trade agreements: maybe just add an “s” and call it/them the NAFTAS.

    Who knows, perhaps someday countries below Mexico (but still in North American Continent) will have something worthwhile to trade too.

    Perhaps there will be some SAFTAS one day. 😉

    Liked by 4 people

  4. BetsBets says:

    I’ll take my winnamins with a side order of some of that cake in the first picture.

    Liked by 10 people

    • Pat Frederick says:

      okay, I’ll admit it…having my morning covfefe and cake sounded good so I scrolled back up…damn…now i want cake! guess I will be baking later….


  5. missilemom says:

    While dealing with domestic espionage by his own law enforcement and some members of his party, President Trump has sent trade shock waves across the globe, from Turkey to Iran to Russia to China. Mexico should be a cake walk… happy birthday.

    Liked by 19 people

  6. PgtSndThinker says:

    Does this mean the produce and beef prices at the grocery store will drop?

    Liked by 1 person

  7. Ditch Mitch says:

    Hope those bilateral agreements with Canada are tougher than the agreements with Mexico.

    Can’t wait to hear the Canadian “dream” team’s response. They always seem to shove their feet in their mouths. Socks heels and all.

    Liked by 13 people

  8. Daniel M. Camac says:

    SD, I’m laughing with ya but I’m sure J-Boya and Princess Rainbow Sparkles has something up their conjugated derrieres. NOT! Oh how I love our business-wise President!

    Liked by 3 people

  9. wendy forward says:

    Such precious WOLVERINES-Wilburine is the cutest!

    Liked by 12 people

  10. free73735 says:

    Thank you to Sundance & whole team, for keeping us informed…..and a couple of my favorite pictures this adorable baby & smile!
    Blessings to all. 😁

    Liked by 13 people

  11. Tired Mom says:

    How I love our Very Stable Genius!

    Liked by 9 people

  12. Slowkid says:

    Sundance. Forgot a picture… cuddles the koala.

    Liked by 3 people

    • Mr. Morris says:

      Larry Kudlow is such a nice man. He was pained in the interview with Margaret Brennan that Justin from Canada would stick a shiv in President Trump when our President was in AF1 after a successful G-7 meeting.

      Liked by 8 people

      • wondering999 says:

        And, think what a shiv Justin was putting in NK Kim and all the North Korean slave laborers who were on the line before the Singapore meeting. They would like to live like human beings also. Not that Justin Trudeau & Cabinet care about them


  13. Enki's Advocate says:

    NAFTA is dead, long DIE NAFTA.

    Liked by 12 people

  14. WesternWhere says:

    I’m guessing both the Canadian and UK governments are going to fall ASAP, due to their soon to be exposed 5-eyes monkeyshines.

    The trade aspect is just icing on Canada’s epic fail. Can’t wait to see President Bieber crying on the TV. and his tears causing the Wicked Crystia to melt.

    Liked by 11 people

    • piper567 says:

      WW, Justin really is in deep doo-doo.
      Our great President and Prince MbS are in agreement ab much of the sinister goings-on in the world, have a unique relationship, some shared Intel- shall we say-and here little babyTrudeau has gone and pi$$ed them both off.
      whoo boy.
      Doesn’t this PM have ANY advisors with even marginal perspective on Canadian vulnerability in the face of such awkward and potentially harmful stupidity??
      I truly feel for our Canadian friends.
      Sure do hope and pray for the Conservative movement in Canada to take root and grow.

      Liked by 7 people

  15. MAGADJT says:

    Hope this bilateral deal will help lift Mexico’s economy out of the gutter. I know corruption and the cartel’s are a huge contributor, but let’s be real, they have imported tons of our jobs and import tons of our cash annually, yet they are no better off economically than they were in the 1990’s. They have the same resources we do, and could have a similar dynamic economy.

    Does anyone think that Mexican citizens really want to pull up stakes and leave their lives, family, and friends behind to move to the United States? They only do it out of financial necessity. I’m hoping this new Mexican President will focus on developing their standard of living, and that will do more than anything to stop the drugs and the illegal immigration.

    Liked by 8 people

    • Paco Loco says:

      A new bilateral trade deal for the US and Mexico that helps Mexico to raise the standard of living is just the first step in the new US/Mex detante. By this time next year, the US will be supporting a major take down of the Mexican drug cartels, much as the US did in Columbia a decade ago. Closing the border and cutting off the cash flow will kill the cartels. No doubt it will be messy and the liberals will scream that we are invading Mexico, but the US can’t live with the cartels continuing to poison the US heartland with Chinese fentanall . POTUS is going to help AMLO save Mexico and AMLO is going to help POTUS save the US.

      Liked by 12 people

      • zorrorides says:

        Yep, Paco Not Loco, only with the border closed ( The Wall ) can the Mexicn government defeat the cartels.

        Liked by 3 people

      • Exactly … Mexico is the most urgent deal to close first.

        China is most important, but will necessarily be last.
        … Much pain required for China to first “get it”, next “forfeit surplus”, then “feel failure”, and finally “fix fraud” before “forfeit face”.

        Liked by 3 people

        • USTerminator says:

          China is already in the trajectory of full blown trade war. If nothing happen then by this time next year, 100% of China exported to US will have at least 25% tariff. Tonight during the dinner with Tim Cook, PDJT would tell Tim “I let you in a secret that in 6 months all Chinese cell phones, tablets and computers will have 25% tariff or more. I would not want you to be surprised and Tim, you could almost fix our trade deficit with China all by yourself. What do you say, Tim?”

          Liked by 3 people

          • By this time next year, on the current trajectory, our Chinese Trade Deficit will likely be cut in half and headed to zero. Buyers in America will discontinue discretionary purchases, source from countries without the tariff (Southeast Asia, India or Mexico) or buy from manufacturers who are racing to produce in America.

            Liked by 1 person

            • I agree. Larry Kudlow has used the phrase ‘trade coalition of the willing’ on a number of occasions. The US is one of the few nations in the world that could today be entirely economically independent.

              People forget that, during WWII, almost all international trade was shut down. Through massive effort, the US not only was self-sufficient, but was able to increase its manufacturing capacity enormously.

              The common people of the US had to accept a ‘lower standard of living’ during that time (rationing) in order to achieve this result, but I never heard anyone from the Greatest Generation complain about having to do what was necessary to achieve victory over our adversaries.

              Liked by 2 people

            • USTerminator says:

              Not that quick I am afraid. China has a choke hold on supply chain that you can not easily replace. It took decades for China to build that and it will take several years to build supply chain elsewhere even outside of the US

              Liked by 1 person

              • G. Combs says:

                “… it will take several years to build supply chain elsewhere even outside of the US…”

                Do not be so sure of that. Remember President Trump is cutting Regulations like mad AND has MANDATED QUICK TURN AROUND on permits. The 10 to 15 years between planning and breaking ground has been shortened tremendously. Also states that are PRO-BUSINESS will get the factories. Zinke is opening up federal land to MINING.

                On top of that INDIA is waiting in the wings to poke China in the eye and that is JUST one of the countries in the NEW global trade alignment.


              • Let’s watch for further Trump Tweets beyond the recent $52 BILLION reduction in our Trade Deficit.


    • Jenny R. says:

      A lot of the Mexican workers in this country that I know (majority illegal) do not want to live forever in the U.S. — they want to make (for them) a ton of cash and go back to Mexico with American dollars (this is not good for us, but understandable for them). Thus they have no intentions of becoming American — and this is part of the problem (they do not integrate and then sometimes choose to never leave — these are the ones who tend towards criminality — the ones who plan to go back to families and stick to that plan tend to not cause as much trouble), but there are ways to fix it:
      1. and the best: boost the Mexican economy and retool their society so those workers can gain the same things they want in Mexico without needing to go to the U.S. to obtain the wherewithal to do so
      2. tighten down on illegal immigration but allow them to come in on a temporary worker’s permit…this is not the best, as you will still have foreign workers rather than American workers, but at least now they would be legal (and thus better oversight and it may cut down on the “bad apples” who come in now)
      Those two things alone would be a fair compromise for both countries and their citizens.

      Liked by 1 person

    • MB224 says:

      Mexico has a much more challenging geography but they’ve been dysfunctional since Cortes landed. Maybe a forced minimum wage will help. The reason we’ve been so successful has a lot more to do with culture than natural resources. Countries and their leaders think wealth is created easily. It’s not. It must be earned structurally, systemically. A Marxist is necessarily handicapped in understanding this.

      Liked by 1 person

      • wondering999 says:

        Marxists don’t understand spiritual, intangible principles — they are fixated on (1) money (b) class (c) race and gender. All physical body stuff. They put the cart before the horse every time and are puzzled why things slow down


    • wondering999 says:

      MAGADJT — here’s hoping that Mexico will get cleaned up and great again so that I can get to San Miguel de Allende for an extended visit, before my final expiration date… work on my Spanish and hopeful retirement…

      Also my daughter and her fiance were in Oaxaca a couple of years ago. I want to learn more about the history of the incredible Benito Juarez, who grew up in Oaxaca. The kids said that I’ll want to go there, because the local Oaxacan food is incomparably good —

      Please may negotiations be successful!


  16. MM says:

    When I see the Winnamins Baby I know everything is all Well and Good……

    Liked by 4 people

  17. WSB says:

    Cake, cookies and cupcakes? I’m all in!

    Liked by 2 people

  18. Sentient says:

    Smart to deal with Mexico first. It’s counter to most establishment expectations of the president – on account of his supposedly being so anti-Hispanic and all. And who’d a thunk that Donald Trump would be so warm to the newly-elected socialist incoming president of Mexico? He’s doing an end run around the establishment globalists because they’re hobbled by their own prejudices about the president.

    Liked by 16 people

    • piper567 says:

      good point, and one I betcha makes the President and his Trade Staff chuckle.
      The President not only gets kudos for supporting Mexican citizens but for being unexpectedly charming to the new Neo-Marxist Leader down S.
      The msm never ever will catch up to this President.

      Liked by 2 people

    • The President is most decidedly not anti-Hispanic. He’s anti-illegal immigration and, because of a common border, much of that immigration is from ‘Greater Hispania’.

      The US has engaged in a number of actions over the years that have adversely affected Mexico’s economy. The US diverts alot of water from Mexico for ‘irrigation’ in the desert Southwest and California. This hurt Mexican farmers.

      Mexico got screwed in NAFTA because shortly after signing the agreement, the US turned around and assisted China in joining the WTO and granted Permanent Normal Trade Relations with China.

      The better-paying jobs that has just started appearing were whisked off to China.

      A truly win-win deal between Mexico and the US would be beneficial for a number of points of conflict between the two nations.

      Liked by 2 people

  19. fleporeblog says:

    What puts a HUGE smile 😃 on my face is that our President and his Killers have an incredible plan to get around the CoC loving RINOs in Congress!

    Our President and Lighthizer have a plan that will put them in a take it or leave it scenario.

    From the article linked above:

    It could be called President Donald Trump’s version of “take it, or leave it.”

    As top-level ministers gathered in Washington toward the end of this week, the Trump administration has already been thinking about how to get a new NAFTA agreement through both chambers of Congress.

    One strategy that has seemed to gain favor is to force a congressional approval on the new NAFTA by withdrawing from the existing pact even before the new one is ready. The thinking is that Congress will have to approve whatever terms are in the new deal quickly, lest the U.S. is left hanging without an agreement with two of its largest trading partners.

    U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer is said to have advocated for such an approach, according to current and former administration officials.

    The strategy, which has been under consideration for months, figures that Congress may not act on the new agreement, preferring the status quo instead.

    Liked by 4 people

    • 🍺Gunny says:

      Now let me know if I am off base here. But the plan put forth, as per Sundance has nothing to do with NAFTA, but is a completely new bilateral agreement.

      And basically it will be given to Congress “already completed” by the President’s people. So it is not necessary for Congress to add or subtract anything.

      Just approve it. My point is, If Congress does not approve, or attempts to water it down the President can do the same as he did with Obamacare.
      Tear it apart piece by piece. I.E Activatei it piece by piece.

      And since NAFTA is expiring he can just leave it die it’s own death.

      I just don’t want Congress to get their hands into it.

      In regards to Mexico, they actually have a fairly vibrant economy. The issue is in Northern Mexico with the drug cartels and not stopping the flow of illegals thru their country.

      The Mexican team seems to understand to fight the US would be very bad for their economy. An example being their “sunk costs” in all of the car factories already built.

      So I do believe a solid deal will be accomplished for them.

      Have them pay for the wall.

      Canada……..if they persist they will end up like all the others……Isolated and coming back with hat in hand.

      Rambled a little…….no issues..

      Liked by 6 people

      • fleporeblog says:

        Our President and Lighthizer will cancel NAFTA immediately after agreeing to the bilateral agreement with Mexico. That starts the 6 month wind down period. There is absolutely nothing Congress can do to stop the clock.

        He will at the same time bring them the finished deal with Mexico. He will tell them either you approve it or we have absolutely nothing and we can take care of our own needs in our own country.

        He slaps a 25% tariff on cars, trucks and parts and has corporations running to expand and open new factories.

        Think of The Godfather movie. He will make them an offer they can’t refuse 😉

        Liked by 7 people

  20. L4grasshopper says:

    Serious question: why would Congress approve these new deals?

    NAFTA was not a Treaty, but WAS approved by both House and Senate as a formal trade agreement.

    Especially if the GOP loses the House… do any new agreements get thru?

    Liked by 2 people

    • fleporeblog says:

      See my post above and you will have your answer!

      Liked by 1 person

    • ristvan says:

      Lurking Lawyer here, again. Treepers, there are three levels of international US accords under the Constitution:
      1. Highest is true Treatises, requiring 2/3 Senate approval. The definition of such was provided by sec. State Thomas Jefferson under first Pres George Washington administration : irrevocable save by mutual consent (I paraphrase).
      2. Second is Pacts. Still requiring acts of majorities in both houses of congess to enable. Different from constitutitonal treaties because must contain a unilateal opt out. NAFTA is a pact.
      3. Third is lowly executive agreements, granted under Article 2 Presidential powers in just three narrow categories ( based on a long SCOTUS adjudication history):
      1. As a subset of foreign policy (e.g. recognizing Ambassadors) based on A2s2.1
      2. As commander in chief (e.g. NATO) based on A2s2.2
      3 As Article 2 Section 3 Take care laws are faithfully executed based on A2s3 next to last clause. The Obama Paris accord is #3, but could be relegated to #2 by Trump invoking the predecessor UNFCCC Pact clauses.
      Analysis Previously posted here and elsewhere in detail.

      Liked by 8 people

    • olderwiser21 says:

      L4 – what is your deal? You keep harping on this same thing about the GOP losing the house….it ain’t gonna happen, my friend. Not in a million years….

      Liked by 1 person

  21. Binkser1 says:

    My question is: how are other supposedly “smart” people who back NAFTA, like the COC, not seeing what President Trump and his Wolverines is doing? Are they that stupid? Is it arrogance? TDS? Do they really think that they can control President Trump? It boggles the mind.

    Liked by 1 person

    • Donna in Oregon says:

      Think it’s safe to say with the 21st Century Congress doesn’t know how to write bills, nor do they know how a Trade Agreement works or the economics required to have robust trade.

      Congress doesn’t need to pay attention. The US Chamber of Commerce, Foreign Lobbyists and Mega Globalist Corporations run that part of the Congress. The Swamp creatures will do what they are told.

      Liked by 13 people

    • AH_C says:

      It’s not a matter of some members of COC believing in MAGA, they have invested a fortune in gaming NAFTA and don’t want to lose their spot at the golden teat. They have no choive but to resist. But the rest of the market understands what’s going on and adjusting their business processes and investments.

      Trillions are at stake.

      Liked by 7 people

    • trapper says:

      Oh the CoC see it, but there is not much they can do about it. Well, NOTHING they can do about it. They are pretty much reduced to setting off stink bombs in the hotel the delegates stay in, and ringing their door buzzers during the night and running away. Other than that they just have to sit and watch.

      The real beauty of it is that the mainstream American press unwittingly play along and allow it to all take place in a self-imposed secrecy by jumping on every silly distraction that comes along. PDJT’s team secretly negotiates a bilateral trade deal out in the open with Mexico, effectively secretly killing NAFTA if anyone bothered to look, while the press all swoons over Omarosa’s new book. It is the America people, those who don’t read here, who are being left uninformed. You couldn’t make this stuff up.

      And the “conservative” American press has a conniption over Mexico electing an avowed communist, predicting the end of the West, while PDJT’s reaction is to go hammer out a deal with him. If any of them bothered to think about it this is perfectly consistent with PDJT’s approach to international relations, but their conservative ideology gets in the way of their understanding. The blind spots some of the press works under are breathtaking in their breadth. For the rest of us, the pattern is clear and obvious. Nations pursuing the interests of their citizens and making mutually beneficial trade arrangements, while staying out of each others’ internal affairs.

      Then there is Canada. Yeah. FUBAR. On the good ship Lollipop …Yes!

      Canada’s foreign minister outlining Canada’s trade philosophy to the press:

      Liked by 9 people

      • paper doll says:

        PDJT is about solving problems. This what the DC Swamp creatures can’t understand or forgive. One is supposed to endlessly pretend to do jack sh#t while shilling for votes and donations, not fix problems!

        Liked by 3 people

        • Dutchman says:

          Professional politicians DON’T solve problems, they USE them;

          To gin up their base,

          To justify spending lots of our $ to NOT solve the problem

          To blame the other guy for.

          Is there any problem they can’t use in at least ONE of these ways?

          Never let a problem go to waste, by solving it!

          Liked by 4 people

      • I agree. I still want to keep an eye on Mexico. If they starting turning into Venezuela, people will be fleeing.

        Liked by 3 people

      • To understand what the President is doing, you need to understand that in 2015, the Congress renewed ‘fast track’ trade authority at the request of President Obama:

        Back when the Globalist Progressives were in charge of trade, I’m sure this seemed like a good idea at the time because another Globalist cash-cow was in the works: TPP.

        As has been said many, many times, the Globalists never thought anyone other than a Globalist would sit in the Oval Office so they had concentrated trade power in the Executive.

        Since the entire thrust of the Globalist Progressive agenda was to remove as much decision-making away from Congress and the People, the only way they can stop POTUS is to revoke ‘fast track’ authority.

        However, I think they will not do this because (a) they still think they can sink the Good Ship Trump and (b) they might have a real problem getting ‘fast track’ through Congress ever again.

        Liked by 3 people

  22. JamesD says:

    Trump has to get a big win for Auto. He’ll either take it out of the EU or from Canada. Looks like as of now Canadian auto is in the cross hairs. Canadians are stupid and are going to end up letting the EU off the hook while their auto industry gets clobbered. Which is strange because Canada should have gotten a deal early. Instead Justin decided to virtue signal.

    Liked by 14 people

    • Canada is the ‘softer target’ of the two because their production is mostly ordinary vehicles, versus the luxury vehicles coming from the EU.

      The US would benefit more from ‘stealing’ Canada’s production than from the EU.

      Every time I look closely at what the President is going, I am just amazed at how cunning and strategic his trade maneuvers are.

      If I was a nation involved in transshipping Chinese goods or components into the US and Donald John Trump even mentioned my nation in relation to trade, I would immediately begin preparing a new bilateral trade agreement that dealt with transshipment.

      Liked by 3 people

  23. GB Bari says:

    So in the Fox interview in the second clip that Sundance posted at the end of the article, Rick Ungar starts whining that the new deals will hurt American auto manufacturers and “it’s going to hurt!” the workers. Where is he getting this information? He hasn’t seen any new trade deal terms yet. Seems like a lot of Sturm und Drang for dramatic effect rather than substance..

    Cue into the video at about 6:30 to see this particular “discussion”….

    Liked by 8 people

    • Some Old Guy says:

      I believe he was just highlighting the same issues that globalists have arbitraged to denude American manufacturing-lower foreign costs, wages, etc. Unsure why he’s highlighting a potential new deal though. He’s from Forbes so I think it’s more because he’s against change in the American competitive position like his employer.

      Liked by 3 people

    • Ungar is a Globalist Mouthpiece Shill.

      Liked by 2 people

    • The Globalist Progressives do not want their Goose That Laid The Golden Egg to be cooked.

      There is no doubt that tariffs will have an impact on the US and global economy.

      This is, quite frankly, the freaking point.

      Some of the impact of the tariffs will be — at least temporarily — ‘negative’ for some parts of the economy.

      The problem is that everyone who criticizes the President’s trade strategy has no viable alternative that addresses the issue of trade imbalances and economic decimation that has occurred under the current trade regime.

      Virtually every adverse effect that critics on both the Left and the Right predicted with regard to these multilateral trade agreements has come to pass and none of the supposed benefits have in any way compensated for the adverse effects.

      The Globalist Progressives have only one tool left in their toolbox: FOD (fear, obfuscation and doubt).

      The goal of the pro-Globalist media is to give these bought-and-paid-for shills as much airtime as possible to try to panic the public into abandoning the President.

      Whether they fully understand the why’s and how’s, the Deplorables know that the current trade regime is bad for them and I don’t think they will be spooked by this Globalist BS.

      Liked by 2 people

  24. jmclever says:

    NAFTA Nazi to Canada: “No trade for you. NEXT!”

    (an old Seinfeld reference, not a political statement)

    Liked by 1 person

  25. Donna in Oregon says:

    Must be hard to be a boot licking Union supporter in the Democrat Party right now, eh?

    UAW President Dennis Williams praises Trump’s tariff approach

    Liked by 7 people

    • Donna in Oregon says:

      Just want to add here that we won’t see Antifa and the Democrat Socialists running around the UAW because Unions like a good fight…..they’ll beat them like rented mules.

      Liked by 10 people

      • favill says:

        Growing up in Windsor, Ontario (right across from Detroit) in the 1970s was quite exciting especially during times when the Big Three were on strike. Lots of fights reported on the news. I distinctly remember a bus carrying “scabs” was stopped by the strikers and mayhem ensued.

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        • 🍺Gunny says:

          Yeah……Windsor……Yeah…..on Marine Recruiting duty in Detroit in the 80’s

          We would always drive across to Windsor to go to the clubs……was just a great time back then…….yeah…… the clubs……..dawg.

          Loved Windsor😎

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      • What say POTUS invites the Unions to Trump Rallies – Antifa Antidote.

        Liked by 3 people

    • Yeah, but Trumka over at the AFL-CIO just stabbed POTUS in the back. We’ll see how that works out for Trumka.


  26. James Street says:

    I like Canada. I hope they are not totally FUBARd just because their leadership is a bunch of maroons.

    I have wondered if POTUS isn’t behind Justin’s string of bad luck on the world stage lately because Justin is really a floating turd in the swamp.

    Liked by 10 people

    • gda says:

      Why thank you JS. We like you too. Just because you caught us in our Obama phase (again, sorry about Justin) doesn’t mean we’ll be there much longer.

      Just remember. It was Obama’s “brains trust” that GAVE us Justin. Yup, Obama sent the crew up here to help the Liberals last election.

      Sadly, our media is just a cesspool of leftist troglodytes, so PDT gets unending negative treatment, but we are here! We know the truth. We see through the lies.

      Liked by 9 people

      • Obama, Blair, Trudeau, Merkel. The Globalists were lining up their ‘heads of state’ for the ‘big push’ to end national sovereignty and the consent of the governed.

        Instead they got Farage, Trump, Orban, AMLO and Salvini.

        The Globalists got up one morning, expecting to step into their limousines and ride off into the glorious golden age of technocracy.

        Instead, they got a bolt-gun to the back of the head.

        Couldn’t happen to a more deserving bunch of people.

        Liked by 1 person

  27. Donna in Oregon says:

    Speaking of Canada and trade. Looks like the USA will be making up the loss of Saudi oil in Canada…..and the Saudi’s will be sending oil to China (instead of the USA oil, sans the tariffs)

    So our very intelligent POTUS just made us some money and we will take care of our neighbors while reducing our trade deficit.


    Canada Frees Itself From Saudi Oil

    Liked by 3 people

    • 🍺Gunny says:

      Sounds like another bit of leverage for our POTUS

      Liked by 3 people

      • Jay Currie says:

        And a brilliant piece of “dumb” from the Liberals. Had they built the Energy East pipeline we’d not need the Saudi oil or the US replacement…but, er, environment.
        Canadians are lions led by donkeys.

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    • The Chinese never intended, and never will, place a tariff on US energy products.

      Ultimately, all Saudi petroleum is, in part, US petroleum. US companies are the primary oil companies in Saudi Arabia.

      In terms of sheer economic efficiency Saudi oil is closer to China than American oil and the reduced transport costs helps to make Saudi oil more profitable while reducing costs.


  28. WSB says:

    Sundance, thank you so much for this perspective. Enlightening how the Trump Administration is such a force, no matter who the other party is.

    BTW, in looking at that photo, it just occurs to me what a backward, low tech conference room that is. From the plastic forks to the TV on the wall with the matching speakers. Sometimes the small details speak volumes.

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  29. Publius2016 says:

    truly Genius! why stay within their Framework of starts and stops and delays of three Elections!!! President Trump and his Team of Patriots is using the 2016 Election, 2018 Mexican Election and then the 2018 Midterms to reset the table!!! major issue is the Squeaker during the lame session.

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  30. Sunshine says:

    Sundance: I can’t stop laughing either. When we understand the evolution of the NAFTA affair and the Trump team’s brilliant mind, all that is left is to sit back and enjoy the developments.Every day brings loads of laughter. Winning bigly.

    Liked by 1 person

  31. noswamp says:

    I don’t need to tell you this, but honest to god Americans on here and others, love the work you do!
    Please keep it up!

    Liked by 5 people

  32. Deplorable_Infidel says:

    “Everyone thinks NAFTA is being renegotiated, it isn’t.”

    Much of that is thanks to the fake news MSM trying to keep the sheeple in the dark. Even if the MSM knows it, they are not reporting it, lest VSGPDJT get a little bit of “street cred”.


  33. Bill Dunn says:

    As The Thing from the Fantastic Four,you know the huge ORANGE dude would say….
    Canada is about to get clobbered.


  34. Sedanka says:

    Trump has never gone into a negotiation with the intent to trash it outright. The threat is part of the negotiation, and the goal is always the best deal, not “no” deal.

    Liked by 3 people

  35. One of your best, Sundance!

    Liked by 1 person

  36. Mightymustardseed says:

    Thank You Sundance this has been a delightful day in the treehouse. So much enjoyable news, the treepers were in great form, and your posts were issued at ‘Trump Speed’. So much easier to understand events, once you connect the dots.

    Liked by 1 person

  37. Dutchman says:

    Gee, after reading sundances excellent “Trade 101” articles, I had already figured out this was the move.
    VSG Sadie it, late in campaign: BI-lateral trade agreements, and “mirror” tariffs.

    Those posting comments on other threads, about the big ugly, and impatient that ‘nothing is happening, no indictments, are we there yet, and deriding 3d chess must never read these trade posts by sundance.

    Otherwise, they would see VSG writing his newest book; ” The Art of the Counterpunch”. After seeing how Canada is getting slapped around, and China is squirming in a corner, I am absolutely convinced he will, AFTER the midterms, have Mueller crying like Ellis had one of mules boys. He’ll be sucking his thumb, and clutching his blanket when the lion gets done with him.

    Every one of this pos that was involved will pay, at a time of the Lion’s choosing.
    Right now, he has far bigger and more consequential fish to fry. They might as well give their soul to Jesus, cause he owns their a**.

    Google “example of what happens when you cross or double cross VSG”, and you’ll find Justin and Erdogan.

    More to follow.

    Liked by 3 people

  38. railer says:

    Poor stupid Trudeau, he just doesn’t get it. If Trump gives any concessions to any country, it’ll be to Mexico. Helping Mexico potentially brings a double payoff, as raising up their economy could lead to a decrease in the flood of illegal aliens into the US, saving us a lot of cash in government welfare. So the natural fiscal incentive is to strip Canada of all possible advantage, while holding Mexico harmless, or as harmless as possible. Canada gets screwed, China gets screwed, and the US and Mexico make out. It’s beyond me how Canada could have let it get to this position, as surely they must have known that this notion would occur to Trump, that the “double payoff” strategy would be on Trump’s list of alternatives, and Canada might make out worse than Mexico.

    Screw ’em, they made their bed. They’ll take whatever Trump crams down on ’em now.

    Liked by 6 people

    • The key to understanding what has happened in Mexico is to realize that Mexico has Globalists too. AMLO is a nationalist and a socialist but Mexico has a long history of ‘socialism with Mexican characteristics’ and, in that sense, is really not that much different than the US. The US has all kinds of ‘socialism’ embedded in our economy: Social Security, Medicare, SNAP, etc.

      AMLO was hyped as a ‘communist’ by the Globalist media in both the US and Mexico in the hope of suppressing his voters. But AMLO is not a Communist. He’s a nationalist and he and POTUS speak the same nationalist language.

      I’m not an expert on Mexican history or politics but I know this: The elites of Mexico are almost entirely ‘European’ Globalists. They are, for all practical purposes, a separate race from the indigenous people of Mexico. The elites are descendants of the Spanish and German colonizers of Mexico. Take a look at picture of Vicente Fox and any ‘campesino’ and you’ll see the difference right away.

      Mexico is a trouble nation. Relations with the US have been difficult because we are the powerful neighbor and have not always been a good one. But, so far as I can determine, were it not for illegal immigration across the border, Americans of all kinds have no intrinsic animosity towards Mexico and Mexicans.

      Mexico has struggled with corruption from its inception. AMLO was elected on his anti-corruption stance. Whatever sabre-rattling regarding America that AMLO engaged in during the election was, in my view, pretty garden-variety electoral rabble-rousing for Mexico.

      If the AMLO and the President can work out a trade agreement that generates increase prosperity in Mexico this will decrease someof the immigration across the border. Since alot of immigration through Mexico is from South and Central America, my guess is that a part of any trade agreement will include a side-agreement for Mexico to manage Mexico’s southern border better (possibly with US assistance).

      Mexico already has a wall but it’s been easier for them to keep peace with Mexico’s southern neighbors by allowing the Central and South Americans to enter, travel through and exit through Mexico into the US. Little spoken about by illegal immigration enthusiasts in the US is that Mexicans do not like these ‘southern’ immigrants in their country and are quite unabashed in their animosity towards them.

      The Mexicans in America think immigration is a ‘human right’ but the Mexicans in Mexico have not truck with that nonsense.

      Liked by 4 people

  39. Cooper45 says:

    Justin must be happy to have Canada excluded from the present negotiations because as we know, he boldly declared minutes after the G7 concluded and Trump’s plane had just cleared the Quebec tarmac that, “We won’t be pushed around.”

    If Justin or his negotiators are not in attendance, he need not fear being treated too harshly by a tough and scary U.S. trade negotiator. He can remain in his safe space in Ottawa and send scolding tweets to foreign gov’ts.

    Now, even when Trump leaves the sensitive Justin alone, POTUS is accused by some Canadians of not supporting Canada in their feud with Saudi Arabia. Justin’s “Conservative” and Liberal MSM love criticizing Trump by publishing opinions from the Dem media or anonymous sources.

    ie. “The (neutral) American stance may even have contributed to Saudi Arabia’s aggressive reaction to Canadian lecturing on Twitter in the first place, said one analyst.”

    Just reading the links blow will be enough. 1st Trump is pushing Justin around and now he’s not protecting or supporting him enough against the Saudi King.

    Liked by 3 people

    • Cooper45 says:

      “links below” of course.


    • Trudeau is hoping that ‘standing up to Trump’ will benefit him in the 2019 election.

      He’s hoping to stir up ‘nationalist’ sentiment and push him and his party over the line in 2019.

      It’s a calculated risk on his part and I think a bad one. He is locked in the ‘process’ mentality of the ‘international rules-based order’ of the Globalist Progressive class. He has no understanding of how quickly events can unfold in ‘Trump time’.

      The problem for ordinary Canadians is that Canada has a very liberal political class. People in the US who would be considered simply ‘conservative’ are considered ‘right wing extremists’ in Canada. This is what they call a very ‘classical’ liberal like Jordan B. Peterson.

      And this is where I get to something that is rarely commented on.

      Americans in general do not pay much attention to what is going on in Canada. But Canadians pay a lot of attention to what is going on in the US.

      The entire political class in Canada — liberals and conservatives — are terrified that what is happening is US politics is going to happen in Canada: The rise of a ‘right-wing’ nationalist-populist movement that would overturn the existing political order.

      This is what they fear :


      • Cooper45 says:

        I don’t disagree with anything you wrote HT including, “He (Justin) has no understanding of how quickly events can unfold in ‘Trump time’.”

        It’s not always easy for anyone to keep up with Trump time. He has more waking hours than most of us.

        I didn’t know there was another Ford elected in Ontario. Doug’s nephew Michael seems like an affable and sincere chap but he might have sipped too much Trudeau Kool-Aid and it might hold him back politically–or not. Canadian politicians and media love to use the alt-right or ultra-right brand tactic to disparage and ruin anyone that might be a threat to their liberal group think. Jordan Peterson is a fresh voice of reason on many subjects therefore he’s a great danger to the liberal political shepherds.

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  40. Sammy Hains says:

    Rick Ungar is a f’n idiot.

    Liked by 1 person

  41. Cleo1234 says:

    Justin gets pushed around

    Liked by 2 people

  42. Pyrthroes says:

    Trump & Co. are not just master negotiators, but strategists in the best sense– not Cloud Cuckoo academics, theorists, but tough bunnies with eyes on the main chance. The vast literature that beclouds complex, mutually interactive issues bearing on entrepreneurial, free market risk/reward is descriptive only; Trump puts “enlightened common sense” (har) in practice.

    Though Trump Prosperity may seem a philistine commercial proposition, the Master’s underlying drive represents a “public philosophy” of the highest order. From Gini to Pournelle, Pareto, luminous Austrian School philosophes –defined as those whose prognoses have proved correct over the years from c. AD 1900– Trump & Co. reflects the cut-and-thrust Musketeer reality described by Robert Axelrod’s seminal “Origins of Cooperation” in 1984.

    Above all, Axelrod’s qualitative as well as quantitative treatise puts “behavioral economics”, “operations research”, “games theory” in context of every classical school from Locke and Adam Smith to J.S. Mill, even the infamous Jean-Jacques Rousseau. A full socio-cultural era back, Axelrod’s coded simulations derived a set of rudimentary but inescapable “accommodation rules” called “tit-for-tat” [Jordan Peterson, take note]. Adapting these “natural law” (essentially Darwinian, if not Sun Tzu) principles of competition to circumstantial growth-and-change, “know thine enemy and act accordingly” wins out by commission, omission, and default.

    “Mere words” are bloviating politicians’ stock-in-trade. But Trump as a behavioral force-of-nature is at root a visionary with the “courage to create”. This is not something learned or trained [we’ll never be a Derek Jeter], but a matter of inborn ability, character and temperament, integrity (“to thine own self be true”). Such “athletes of reality” fascinate ballpark observers, to the point where lesser players just push their chips on Trump: “Take these, you’re gonna win ’em anyway.”

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  43. TwoLaine says:

    BUT Charlottesville…


  44. Francine Hutcheson says:

    Does anyone else find it interesting what Saudi Arabia is doing to Canada? Just thinking out loud…Remembering Sundance article last year ….


    • Stan says:

      I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump mentioned to the Saudis that Trudeau The Dumber needed a bit of learnin’.


    • Saudi Arabia has its own issues. Their politics are, perhaps, even more impenetrable than that of China. Based upon the Trump Doctrine of national sovereignty and national interest, POTUS is not going to take a stand against SA.

      MBS has a huge job before him to ‘modernize’ SA.

      Every extremist in the Muslim world is opposed to MBS’s ‘modernization’ process because SA is the Sunni nation and modernization of SA will ultimately entail a moderation of Islam.

      MBS is one of the most physically endangered national leaders in the world. The other is Kim Jong Un in NK.

      Islam is an incredibly unstable and violent religion. SA has been involved in exporting one of the most violent iterations of Islam. There is now a general understanding the stable Islamic nations that you can only export your extremists for so long before there is blowback.

      POTUS put this in front of them with great clarity.

      The leaders of stable Islamic nations need to reform Islam but no one in that part of the world can ever say so.

      Americans need to understand that ‘human rights’ has, for the most part, been a cover for Western military adventurism in the Middle East.

      The blunt truth is that world would be be a more stable place if a Caliphate were to emerge and the seat of the Caliphate would be SA.

      If Islam wants good relations with the Judeo-Christian West, they are going to need to reform. The only alternative is civilizational war. The crazies in Islam and the West would prefer this as well as the warmongers in the West.

      However, because of the inherently political character of Islam, it is possible to start religious reform from the political side of Islam and that, I think, is what MBS is doing.

      Under the most optimistic projection by Imam Tahawi, it will take 200 years to reform Islam.

      However, in order to root out extremist elements in SA (and, if successful, the Ummah as a whole), MBS cannot allow any political dissidents to think they are going to get outside support for resisting the regime.

      This is the context for SA’s very sharp reaction of Princess Rainbow Sparkles sticking her nose into SA internal political affairs in the name of ‘human rights’.

      In the West, we may find this disturbing. But this was already tried with great success in Chile under the Generals. Ordinary people did not oppose dictatorship of the Generals because their opposition was a completely unacceptable alternative. The same is true in SA.

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  45. Rob says:

    Trump is playing 3D chess the establishment is playing checkers


  46. TwoLaine says:

    I am just thrilled to hear that Mexico is BUILDING THAT WALL.



  47. G. Combs says:

    Chinstrap says: “….It would seem that the Canucks have on their negotiation team complete and utter political & economic neophytes. Thankfully, Canada will soon have the opportunity to rectify this mistake.”

    With that statment it occurs to me that the US Trade Team just got up and walked away from the table and WILL NOT BE BACK until AFTER CANADA elects a new government!

    Remember the Art of the Deal… ALWAYS be willing to walk away. I think we are witnessing that with both Turkey AND CANADA. 😁

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  48. robins111 says:

    I just love it when the Canadian Liberals start the virtue signaling, they fail to mention that the entire South African Apartheid system was based entirely on a Canadian Liberal invention called ‘The Indian Act’ which is still law and policy in Canada

    Liked by 1 person

  49. Canadatrump says:

    I have never been so happy to be so soundly beaten and know the pain will be worth it. Let’s be honest it is hard enough to ignore the elephant in the room, now put a pair of socks on that elephant and make them scared to get in the mud. Everyone knows now, replacing this ineptness will be glorious. Let’s hope Ontario which is like Commifornia can see the need to change.


  50. Stan says:

    Kevin O’Leary predicted that Trump vs Trudeau on trade would be like Godzilla vs Bambi.
    I think he understated it.

    Now Trudeau The Dumber and his hopeless and frumpy trade minister are embroiled in a trade dispute with Saudi Arabia and his government is casting about to try to find a way to replace the roughly 100,000 barrels a day that Canada imports from Saudi Arabia for the eastern Canadian oil refineries.
    No word yet on whether they have looked at the oil producing provinces of Alberta and Saskatchewan that are desperate for new pipeline capacity…./s
    Liberal governments have repeatedly blocked west/east oil pipelines in Canada.

    And no, you couldn’t make up a more ridiculous situation.
    But it’s not my fault, I didn’t vote for the stupid b@stard.

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