D’oh Canada – Justin and Chrystia Announce Plans To Retaliate Against U.S. Steel/Aluminum Tariffs – Trudeau Government Will Expand Unemployment Payments, and Subsidize Canadian Industry…

Today Canada released an updated list of retaliatory tariffs designed as countermeasures to the U.S. Steel and Aluminum tariffs [SEE HERE] which will begin Sunday, July 1st.

Additionally, Foreign Minister Chrystia Freeland, Innovation Minister Navdeep Bains, and Employment and Labour Minister Patty Hajdu, announced they would initiate an emergency program to use Canadian taxes compensate workers, expand unemployment benefits, and subsidize impacted industry.  Yes, in a transparent display of political ideology (throwing capitalism directly out the window), Canada doubles-down on centralized government subsidies to offset market impacts.   Brilliant ‘eh!

Chrystia Freeland made the announcement on the floor of a Hamilton steel factory Friday. In a rare backdrop, Ms. Freeland actually entered a factory with machines and things, to deliver the carefully choreographed political message (video below – watch the last minute to understand).

Team U.S.A. have applied tariffs to Canadian softwood lumber, Steel and Aluminum as Canada refuses to negotiate new terms for NAFTA where North American products are prioritized.  Canada demands the ability to continue importing Asian, mostly Chinese, products for their assembly-based market.

With the latest counter-move by Justin and Chrystia from Canada, it is increasingly likely President Trump will levy a 20% tariff on imported Canadian automobiles.  Last month (May) the Canadian economy dropped over 31,000 Full-Time jobs.

Here’s the full video of the announcement.  The Q&A Session starts at 16:40 and is really the only part that matters:

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Canada has put themselves into a tough spot.  The current Canadian government cannot support any NAFTA agreement that requires the actual manufacturing of goods in North America. Both Canada and Mexico have structured their economies to import goods from Asia, mostly China, and use their access into the U.S. market to trans-ship their final goods.

Chinese central government, as well as Asian and EU corporations, pay Canada and Mexico (through trade agreements) for U.S. market access.  Essentially Mexico and Canada are trade brokers or pass-throughs.  Neither Canada nor Mexico have the actual raw material, infrastructure or processes in place to manufacture goods in North America; they both generally only assemble parts made overseas into finished products.

Because of this structural flaw, the Canadian government is doubling down on their intent to keep the status quo in place. However, this approach also makes it a futile exercise to continue talking about renegotiating NAFTA.

Mexican elections are being held July 1st (Sunday), it is yet to be determined if Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador (AM LO), Mexico’s virtually guaranteed-to-win next president, will support a Mexican withdrawal from NAFTA.

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537 Responses to D’oh Canada – Justin and Chrystia Announce Plans To Retaliate Against U.S. Steel/Aluminum Tariffs – Trudeau Government Will Expand Unemployment Payments, and Subsidize Canadian Industry…

  1. GB Bari says:

    It’s real eye-opener to discover your friends are only friends as long as you let them keep pilfering your wallet. Trump’s genuine honesty exposes every fraudulent poser for who they truly are, whether they’re an individual, group, political party, or nation..

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  2. Amy2 says:

    I’m guessing Canadians will be up in arms over bourbon and toilet paper. This could get ugly. You can’t drown your sorrows, and if you do, you’ve got nothing to wipe with after.

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    • kea says:

      DM makes it seem like Canada is winning?!?!?! LOL

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    • Carrie2 says:

      Amy2, what I find interesting is where will all the money be found if they plan to do all they are saying they will do. Guess they will start printing more money and then what do they do with inflation? They have a clue as to what ECONOMICS is and are just whining like babies. So they robbed us for years and now that we will not allowing being robbed any more, they are angry and are going to dig deeper holes for their citizens. Hmmm. Somehow that ain’t gonna work.

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      • Don L says:

        Money comes from printed paper; paper comes from trees; Canada has lots of trees, hence, Canada is rich…or something.

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        • GB Bari says:

          I.e., money grows on trees!! This is great news for Marxist/Socialists who have lots of trees! However, their trading partners best beware…. a gold reserve is usually a more substantial assurance of national wealth. Oh, wait, someone needs to tell that to the U.S. Congress and the Fed.

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      • Amy2 says:

        Yup. We have enough Americans whining about getting what they want. We don’t need the Canadians piling on!

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  3. jat says:

    oy. What a sh*t show..

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  4. G. Combs says:

    Now here is a very interesting thread: “For your consideration: MARXISM VERSUS LIBERALISM / Josef Stalin, in an interview with H.G. Wells / 23 July 1934: Much of the discussion is about President Roosevelt and the USA.

    H.G. Wells was a member of the Fabian Society. The Fabians use gradual means to get to a communist ‘Utopia’ while the Communist uses revolution. It is interesting that both men admire President Roosevelt.

    “There is no difference between communism and socialism, except in the means of
    achieving the same ultimate end: communism proposes to enslave men by
    force, socialism—by vote. It is merely the difference between murder and suicide.”

    -Ayn Rand

    “The goal of socialism is communism.” – Lenin

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    • Carrie2 says:

      G. Combs, a good read. I have been saying all along that socialism is just 1/2 step down from communism because I lived and worked under socialism but with the lousy education in American and I guess also in Candida, they haven’t a clue as to either but sooner or later you wind up in the One World Government communism but we will NOT!

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      • Jan says:

        We’d better have the revolution on deplorable terms, rather than our Leftist American’s terms. We won’t do so well under their revolution because they definitely don’t have our best interests at heart. And I’ve asked Pres. Trump to expand his two-fers rule (for every regulation enacted, 2 regulations must be axed): for every illegal deported, 2 Leftist Americans must lose their citizenship and be deported as well. If they love socialism and communism so well, they should move on to countries with those forms of government.

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    • chancebarns says:

      “Socialism – Communism – Marxism…are all fingers of the same hand…the hand of Totalitarian Rule.” ~ Unknown

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    • Mashall says:

      Fine work pointing that out!

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    • Noah says:

      Thanks for bringing up Fabian Socialists, the “wolves in sheep’s clothing” as they saw themselves. It is a real miracle that socialism and communism did not get even farther than they did in the US, with so many truly traitorous movements and groups, often taking the guise of wise societal architects and policy experts.

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  5. Canadian Politicians
    Some words from my book of cold anger;

    Canadian politicians of the proglib, leftist stripe have always had that peculiar supremacist, smug, self righteous point of view. They see themselves as the end all be all. Coupled with their socialist views it is always a wreck waiting to happen. It often borders on a mix of moral turpitude with mental instability and flights of fancy into la la land as they vacillate between their supreme bubble and their victim bubble.

    Through the excuse of being a smaller population, politicians in Canada have for years embraced and sold the mindset that Canada, next to their big neighbour, is not competitive (oh I know you will say, ”that’s not so, they’ve spoken about being competitive many times,” in words maybe, but not in deeds) so they have practiced subsidies (oh how they have practiced subsidies), currency manipulation, gangster style protectionism, intimidation, market manipulation, endless socialized programs, regulation and economic tyranny, all as a fine art, always demanding more tax payers money. More of someone else’s money.

    The governments, Federal, Provincial and local, spend like drunken sailors and there is always this tone of “entitlement,” you owe us, we do so much for you. Mostly a bunch of airheads hardly with a brain cell between them. They stumble around like the three stooges at a plumber’s convention. Then when forced to play on the big stage they flop back to “we are not a large population, we can’t really compete, whine, whine.” And they are crooked and they really do envisage themselves as gods of their godless kingdom.

    All of it has produced a mentality of victimhood throughout the entire country. It is why Canadians say they are sorry so much. Oh, I’m sorry, no I’m sorry, my fault, Sorry, oh no it was me, so sorry. The image is that of the poor brother, hat in hand looking for a little hand out. I’m sorry, did I come at a bad time. When they do something that would be just normally good there is such gloating and acting out because they have no confidence of winning. Its like an, oh, look what I found moment.

    Many Canadians virtue signal their greatness but, really, they are sorry, they are children of this poverty spirit. Many (probably all of the left) don’t like American bravado and patriotism because it points out they don’t really have any that works. It is not that Canadians do not love their country, they do, but often they have to try hard to do so in the face of so much railing opposition. Many of the Provinces are dirt poor having been plundered by successive, incompetent governments. Government is always in your face. There is always some “self styled” rights group hanging around like a bunch of thugs in a back alley wanting to beat you to death just for the fun of it.

    The tone in the air just reeks of PC liberal tyranny. It sticks to your hair, to your clothes, it is everywhere you go. It is in the news (Canada has a “state” owned press, the CBC), it is in the way people carry themselves. Beaten down, tramped down, tainted as inferior not even realizing the fact. Jesus said, “The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy:” This is what proglibs do for they are children of their father, the devil, and they have no truth in them.

    So many voters actually like Trudeau, comrade leader, a fad, metro sexual, beta who fits with all the eunuched men who lost their whatzits to political correctness. He’ll tippy, tippy, tippy toe, do a couple of whirls and take his socks and go home. One looks at the Canadian Parliament and wonders, good grief is this what we have fallen to, this cirque des imbéciles, It’s not a comedy of errors any longer, but a tragedy in any type or style of governance.

    Canada must plow this furrow from the spawn of evil they have chosen to rule and take their lumps. Hopefully God will make a change and send a “Trump.” Canada needs to be taken to the woodshed, the very country needs to be shaken so it will awaken from its stupor. It is he only waay to shake it out of the clutches of the proglibs. Cancelling NAFTA may start the process by stopping the enabling.

    God does what God does. At the time that He gave America President Trump, America was ready to respond. Canada unfortunately will need to sink much deeper into the hole before they are ready to attempt to make the turn. It is going to hurt, bigly, and, may not be done.

    The liberal, progressive left are totally detached from any semblance of reality. They have had years of their socialized smugness to dull any comprehension of life outside the hive. They have one rallying point, interfere with another person’s life, especially one not of their ideological bent, as much and as often as possible. They see nothing else, they understand nothing else and many are devoid of any intellectual framework to get to anywhere else.

    Oh, and I am a Canadian and I love President Trump. And I am not sorry about it!

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    • Skinner says:

      WELL SAID! I do business in Australia (I’m American) and their politicians are the same, and in general the citizens have the same attitude towards the US. Then there are those Aussies that I swear are Americans with southern accents!

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    • davidb says:

      I live near the first town near the canadian border and noticed a increase in canadians shopping at the hardware and grocery stores, and fueling up with a lot of extra gas cans too. Something is going on.

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      • Diddian says:

        I travel frequently between homes in Washington and Montana and have noticed each time in recent weeks lots of new Toyota vehicles on trucks being transported via I-90 from Washington east. Not sure, but I’ve wondered whether they are coming from Canada before tariff impacts such movements.

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    • Psycho Monkee says:

      ^^^This^^^ Nailed it

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    • Theresa Keys says:

      I think they feel they can get away with anything. After all, it’s a huge border and they are a sovereign country, what’s to stop them having soviet or Chinese bases there. Or develop a relationship/training exercises with the Chinese. Or more covert sell /rent ports and other infrastructure to them. Possibilities are endless if they want to go to the mattresses. And Trudeau is immature and spiteful enough to do it. Especially as his vanity is going to be hurt when th us smashes them on trade.

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    • olderwiser21 says:

      Wow, ZDTB – Well and beautifully said, and so honest! Glad you are posting at CTH..

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    • John Matrix says:

      Zero dark thirty, that was a great post /analysis / mini-essay!
      Thank you for detailing what the mental illness of liberalism with a Canadian flair is.
      It’s striking how similar this pathology exhibits itself worldwide, individually and through entire populations.

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    • kurt72 says:

      A country has 2 great resources- the land with all its natural resources and the people and all their resources. Canada is a great nation that will grow up hopefully soon if a leader rises up. A nation has to be self-sustaining like America is. We can survive without trade but we will grow with it as all other nations can. They simply need to have the will to make it so. I live in Maine which is becoming more self sustaining away from the socialist cities. The same national concepts apply to any governmental entity irrespective of its size. They all simply need leaders who believe in themselves and their citizens like Trump does. All have the God given capacity to prosper and live well.

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    • Oren V says:

      THe best kind of socialism is the one paid for by someone else. In Canada and the EU’s case, they get big daddy USA to pay for their security while they whine about how the USA is a bully, and trying to take over the world. If we truly were, they should arm themselves to stop us, but in reality, they know we have no such intentions. Meanwhile they go in over their heads, and quietly ask to be bailed out of their foolishness.

      Trump is asking them, FINALLY, to grow up. It is going to take decades for them to do it, but there is no time like today to start. Once they start growing up, maybe we can grow up a bit and pay off our debt.

      Yes, our debt is funding their socialism.

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      • G. Combs says:

        Remember the Bank Bailouts???

        Remember how Ron Paul tried to get the Fed to say WHERE all that US tax payer money was going?

        Well it turns out it was going to BAIL OUT EU BANKS!!!

        September 2011 Federal Reserve to Bail Out European Banks (Again!)

        How Ben Bernanke Saved Europe’s Banks – The Globalist

        The story of an unprecedented effort by the U.S. central bank to serve as the lender of last resort to the world.

        […] in researching my new book on the efforts of the world’s leading central bankers to combat the crisis and the aftermath, a different narrative emerged.

        You can’t understand the crisis, I found, unless you understand how a huge portion of the Federal Reserve’s work during this period—and off and on since then—was about propping up banks in Europe and across the globe.

        To a degree that few people understood at the time, banks in continental Europe had bought vast sums of the very shaky mortgage securities that were rapidly losing value as U.S. homeowners defaulted in numbers that had once seemed unimaginable.

        Their exposure to U.S. assets was a whopping $10 trillion. Those were the dollar assets on their books.[…]”

        And NOW the US Tax payer is on the hook for… ‘a whopping $10 trillion’

        Remember we bailed out AIG, the company insuring those home loans. What many people did not know was there could be MULTIPLE policies on one house AND you did not have to be the morgage lender!!

        This is why Obama FORCED so many into bankruptcy. I should know since we were victims of Obummer’s ‘Loan Modification’

        It took a lawyer and a year to get the *&%#$ bank to tell us HOW MUCH $$$ we had to pay to get out of their foreclosure trap. We had reduced payments for a year and then the bank decided we were not ‘qualified’ so we owed back partial payments PLUS penalties PLUS lawyers fees…. all due in 30 days but you had to GUESS how much. How many people can come up with over $20,000 in a month if they were already having trouble paying their mortgage? It is no wonder so very few people ‘took advantage’ of that program.

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    • Sunshine says:

      I’m Canadian and agree 100% with your assessment.

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  6. Cooper45 says:

    It’s depressing what the dynamic progressive duo and their cabinet colleagues are doing to Canada.

    But never underestimate the obstinance and economic ignorance of progressive ideologues especially when they have their hands on the public purse. A few isolated Canadian business writers and economists know Canada can not win a major tariff war with the U.S.A, but progressive Liberals never have any problem doling out $ Billions in taxpayer money for their latest politically motivated policy. Chrystia must also has faith that her recent friends Corker, Flake and Menendez on the Senate’s Foreign Relations Committee will pressure Trump to back off so Canada can celebrate a glorious victory.

    Philippe Couillard is the Premier of Quebec which is Canada’s largest dairy-producing province. He believes Canada’s class 7 milk policy is the main stumbling block. The process makes it cheaper for Canadian processors to buy domestic supplies of ultra-filtered milk that boosts protein content in cheese and yogurt. Canadian cheese producer Saputo agrees. Couillard means well but does not seem to be well informed about the major issues:
    “If that’s the main issue, let us see how we can approach that separate from supply management. Of course, our dairy farmers will need to be very adequately compensated for whatever will be done.” (June 29, 2018 Financial Post) He should read CTH.

    Given all that is happening economically, I was surprised to read this headline in the “Conservative” NP about today’s sworn in Ontario Premier:
    “Doug Ford can make Ontario great again by learning from Trump”

    https://nationalpost.com/opinion/np-view-doug-ford-can-make-ontario-great-again-by-learning-from-trump?video_autoplay=true

    Good luck with that Rob if Justin’s and Chrystia’s bravado causes the closure of Ontario steel and car plants. There is a slim to none chance that they know they can’t win and are showing their voters that they tried their best.

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    • Rhoda R says:

      ARE there any functioning aluminum/steel plants? I thought they’d all been closed down over environmental concerns and that the metals that Canada was shipping to us came from China.

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      • Cooper45 says:

        Yes Rhoda, see the link below to the Canadian Steel Producer’s Association:

        They have 10 members: ie, 1.Algoma. “A name that’s been part of the Sault Ste. Marie community for more than a century. Synonymous with our legacy of producing quality steel products”: 2. “AltaSteel is a producer of rolled steel products for the mining, construction, automotive and engineering industries.”: 3. “Founded in 1912, ArcelorMittal Dofasco is Canada’s leading steel producer and a hallmark of advanced manufacturing in North America”: 4. “With more than 1,700 employees in Quebec and Ontario, ArcelorMittal Long Products Canada regroups steel production (steelmaking, rolling and wire drawing) and scrap recycling and processing facilities. We specialize in the manufacture of semi-finished products such as billets, slabs, bars and rod, dedicated mostly to the construction and automotive markets, but also to other industrial uses” ……..

        http://www.canadiansteel.ca/
        I don’t know much imported Chinese steel factors in to these companies.

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        • Coldnorth says:

          Hi Cooper45
          Thank you for your excsllent post and the link. It gave me a place to start to try and learn about where is this Chinese steel figure in. I never made it as far as I would have liked too…but, this caught my attention right away and “doesn’t surprise me”.
          Of the ten Companies that make up the canadiansteel.ca group. NONE are Canadian owned or controlled.
          3 are US-Ivaco, Stelco Alta.
          1 is Australian-RioTinto
          1 is Indian-Algoma
          1 is Russian-Euraz (Cyprus registered)
          2 are South American-Gerdau, Tenaris
          2 are registered in Luxembourg but can’t make out ownership-ArcelorMittal, hmmm?
          Begs the question of who might be marketing Chinese steel using NAFTA, not Canadian owned companies by the look of it. Foreign ownership of which 30% is US. Hmmm,… imagine that.

          Our dollar will be hugely devalued, starting already compared to foreign ownership’s dollars. Trump tariff is worldwide, unless negotiated (that is good by me).China will have limited markets now (good by me, also).

          Management, at the 30% US controlled ownership, has to be saying something like ” Trump has put China on notice, soon a considerable uptick in steel sales domestically, Canada’s 15 Billion a year market at roughly 12% EBITA (of which we command 30%), the dollar devaluation compared to US allows us to have “cheaper labor”, and twinklesocks has committed to subsidizing us with his counter-terrorism duties…..We have a winner folks!!

          I liken the vitriol against regular Canadians ( abundant here lately), is like going to your next door neighbor to beat him up because his foreign boss kicked your dog. Neighbor had zero to do with it, but takes the beating….

          I am and will continue to be a Huge Trump supporter, have had many discussions about him with the odd Prairie Liberal…..Odd being the operative word.

          I will remain quiet and lurk but will be much more wary. This is absolutely my favorite/only place to learn from and see feedback/commentary, just quite surprised at this whole thread.
          My Canadian Patriotism is every bit as strong as a good American’s. If I seek craptalk I go to Breitbart, not here.
          If my figures are wrong I will stand corrected, all info came from canadiansteel.ca and digging into the member websites from there.

          All have a Wonderful 4th!
          God Bless Trump and God Bless America.

          And Happy Canada Day to Cooper45 and all fellow Canadians.
          Also, God Bless the Haters….you need all the help you can get!

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  7. Skinner says:

    Chrystia is an odious hobbit. The pandering nonsense to the “workers” at the end is nauseating! Ushering her fellow elite member out of he way to display her meat props for the cameras.

    She and the crew there are working overtime to pretend they believe their bulls**.

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  8. NC Nana says:

    When this started I had high hopes for Canada that we could work something out. Buuuttt … Every time I hear Chrystia Freeland and the others speak I get more irritated with Canada’s so called right to tell America how they will do business.

    I also don’t like the way they speak about our President or our trade negotiators. The Canadians talk as if they can manipulate American officials to turn on our Federal government and the American people. Fat chance it will work. In fact it is pushing me in the direction away from any positive thoughts on Canada.

    As I watched all* the video tonight by the end I was thinking of the old saying “good fences make good neighbors”. BTW, make that fence 10 feet taller!

    *I think people should watch the whole thing. You get the full sense of Canada’s disdain for America and Americans.

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    • Minnie says:

      Excellent, Nana, thank you.

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    • Cooper45 says:

      NC:
      “I also don’t like the way they speak about our President or our trade negotiators.”

      I really don’t want to see Canada dragged into a recession where many families will be severely impacted but the disrespect, the acrimony, the progressive conceit and the deep arrogant politically based disgust these progressive leaders have for Trump and his “deplorables” is likely a factor in this dispute. It can’t be ignored. Unless Canadians make an effort to seek non Liberal sources, the news information they receive is fed to them by the MSM directly or by the liberal progressive Crown Pravda, the CBC. The public broadcasters mostly glean their stories and play clips from the MSM and their anchors often just parrot their words. Canadians had to sign up and pay extra for FNC for many years but not CNN which was included in packages.

      The lack of diverse opinions and freedom of political thought and discussion in “mainstream” Canada has been frustrating and unchangeable but it is about to cost Canadians “a lot of money” as Trump said after Justin’s pompous stab in the back.

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    • John Good says:

      I am a disabled Canadian who has worked for American RV Transport Companies in Indiana, as a Canadian Subcontract Driver & I can say that I have never been treated better or with more respect in my life. Both companies were as professional as you can be in this field.
      I financed a Dually Pkp. back in 08′ & started Hauling RV’s back to the dealers here in Canada & quickly realized that the Canadian RV Hauling Company that I was under contract with, had lied to me in the interview when she stated that I could gross $100,000/yr. I had to wait till they got paid, before they paid me & the only way that I could save my truck from the Bank, was to do a “Consumer Proposal” which took me 3 yrs. to pay off!
      The American Companies give all their drivers a Comdata Card which you could use in any ATM in the US or Canada & they always gave you 50 percent up front to cover your fuel, etc. And when you faxed back the paperwork from the Dealer, you got the remaining 50 percent + expenses paid to your Comdata Card within a couple hours.
      Your President Donald J. Trump was one of my mentors during the 80’s, when I had my Commercial Sign Company here in Canada, so I have respected him as a fellow Business Person since then & am probably one of his biggest supporters here in Canada.
      I feel bad for Canada’s future with these idiots in power & wish that I could be an American citizen instead, because with Donald J. Trump leading your Country, you have a great & prosperous future there!

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      • Cooper45 says:

        John:
        Enjoyed reading your work story to NC.

        We can learn a lot from personal stories and not just dry figures and stats. Hope all is working out for you now. Canadians and foreign tourists have to be careful of the scam artists, car thieves etc in Canada and that is not an exaggeration.

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        • John Good says:

          Cooper45,Thank You for enjoying my comment! I’ll be 65 in August & will be getting my pension & benefits then, so I won’t have to compete for employment anymore, so I’ll be OK. I been studying scam artists, psychics, fortune-tellers, evangelists, cults, etc. all my life, so I am pretty-sure that I won’t fall victim to anyone. I used to love watching James Randi expose guys like Rudy Geller on the Johnny Carson Show back in the 70’s & 80’s.

          I was planning on travelling around the Florida area next winter in a converted Ambulance & going back to Arizona, Nevada & California ( by way of the old Route 66) the following winter
          .
          I hope that the Can $ does not go to 60 cents VS the USD, as a couple of the big banks are predicting recently, if Trudeau & Freeland blow the NAFTA deal with Trump.
          I may not be able to afford to travel in the USA if this happens & I will be an “even more piss*d-off Canadian” than I am already.

          If you want to see “kindergarden in action” sometime, look at our “leaders” behaviour in the House of Parliament. It is a sick joke the way this Country is currently governed & Trudeau is our “White O’Bama”, so I can appreciate what you guys went thru since 08′.

          There has been some talk here in Canada, about Conrad Black who has had some business dealings with your President Trump in the past & they are friends, so MAYBE Conrad Black can convince Donald J. Trump to go easier on us here in Canada.

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          • John Good says:

            Sorry, Cooper45, but I just realized that you are a fellow Canadian. I just didn’t have the time over the last couple nights to read all the posts here closely.

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    • Oren V says:

      For people who hate us, I always wonder why they all live so close to the border and cross it on a regular basis to buy things.

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  9. wildsailor2018 says:

    Dear

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    • wildsailor2018 says:

      Wow…a double space bar posts the note….not what I wanted to do. Here we go again:

      Dear President Trump,

      As Canada escalates this one-sided fight, one avenue of potential response could be to cancel all work permits here in the USA for Canadian residents. Each morning I follow car after car, truck after truck, with Canadian plates, heading into many auto related (engineering and technical) and nursing jobs here in the Metro Detroit area. They stream across the border in droves taking jobs away from USA workers. During our late 2000 recession they kept USA workers from having work.

      I do not mind filling in when workers are short but we are beyond that now. Close the border to these imported workers and employ our citizens instead!

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      • NC Nana says:

        Thanks for the info Sailor.

        I honestly had no idea. So this practice of non-citizens taking American jobs through all the long, hard years of the Obama blunders… When college graduates with unpaid school loans and no job in their field were searching fruitlessly???

        Then the non-citizens return to their home country at the end of the day not even spending their earnings in America for goods and services, paying property taxes etc.??? Not contributing to the economy in any way??

        If they get 10 years of quarters in America will that mean they will collect Social Security from the US while living in their home country?

        Unbelievable thoughts! How could this happen?

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        • Niagara Frontier says:

          The United States has bilateral Social Security agreements with 26 countries. Often referred to as Totalization Agreements, the purpose is to eliminate dual Social Security taxation, the situation that occurs when a worker from one country works in another country and is required to pay Social Security taxes to both countries on the same earnings.

          Some basics here:
          https://www.ssa.gov/international/agreements_overview.html

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          • NC Nana says:

            Niagara, your post name implies you may have an understanding of such things as the bilateral Social Security agreements between 26 countries. I will take the time to read your reference, but not tonight.

            During the Obamacare years we had a hospital close in our area putting many nurses, technicians etc. out of work. (The doctors landed on their feet and a couple retired.) We knew a number of people who lost their jobs and the residents who then had to drive a distance for hospital care.

            During the years aircraft was fleeing California my husband worked in an engineering field and was laid off. So Sailor saying non-citizens were coming in taking jobs (nurses and technical field) when they were needed by Americans struck a chord.

            It is also concerning that the people Sailor referenced are not even cycling the money earned here through the American economy to give Americans jobs. According to Sailor they are going back to their home country at night. Until very recently the workers of our country have been struggling to keep our head above the water. Those earnings could have given Americans jobs if spent here.

            I will read the Social Security agreements because I think this thing will go on with Canada for a long time. I believe the PM and Minister have become stubborn. They have let pride get in the way of doing business. You know what that means. Pride goes before a fall.

            It will undoubtedly be a shake up and people will have to go back to thinking outside the box. In the end I believe it will work out. I believe Americans and Canadians are very self reliant people. What’s that song about picking yourself up by the boot straps?

            Oh well, time will tell. Thanks for the info about the international agreements. Given all the changes in relationships I think it will be worth knowing.

            Have a good night.

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  10. Binkser1 says:

    Hoping for all our Canadian Treepers that this will be your Obama/Trump moment: where your current president/Prime Minister is so terrible (Obama/Justine) that it wakes up enough people so Canada will elect their own version of President Trump. Praying for you guys and gals.

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  11. SwampRatTerrier says:

    Did those 2 kanucks star in the film Dumb and Dumber?

    Hey kanucks welcome to you new Democrat Party style Plantation
    Y’all es all slaves now.

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  12. Iamacokecan says:

    Eventually we will have to build a wall on the north border.

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  13. Robert Smith says:

    In the pic, they’re all protecting their crotch as Trump takes a penalty kick…and SCORES!

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  14. Minnie says:

    First question to the Weeble concerning former PM Harper visiting the WH and meeting with Kuddles – she responded as all lefties do, with obfuscation.

    There is nothing “illegal” about the tariffs imposed in Canada.

    But they are imposing “retaliatory” tariffs commencing 7/1.

    Yet, that is her talking point.

    They know not what they do.

    Sad.

    I pray for the good decent citizens of Canada.

    They deserve better.

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  15. ecmarsh says:

    In my younger years I did work off and on in Alberta and Ontario. Really enjoyed my visits. The towns and cities were so clean compared to many of ours. Canadians were friendly and seemed to be a very moral people. The men loved to camp, hunt, fish, Bar-B Que, and drink massive amounts of beer and hated the French.

    Wife and I went to Montreal once to see what could be their issue. It was a most dilapidated dirty city.

    My last trip was about 3 months after our 911. I Flew into Edmonton and got accosted by their customs. Some woman took me in the back and started giving me the third degree. I said I was visiting a friend (true) and she said I was coming in to work (which I had in times before). Well I then say I am coming in to work. Well, that must be wrong, caus she accused me of making a false statement. The whole time she is sitting there with her legs gaped open in my face. Thank God she had pants on.

    Finally got out of there and headed North to my destination. After that trip I never crossed the border to Canada again.

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  16. Troublemaker10 says:

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  17. Deplorable_Infidel says:

    “Both Canada and Mexico have structured their economies to import goods from Asia, mostly China, and use their access into the U.S. market to trans-ship their final goods.”

    OOPS!

    I guess they don’t like the old advice about “not putting all your eggs into one basket”.

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  18. Troublemaker10 says:

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  19. rrick says:

    Literally, everything that Canada has America has more. Everything but the eh. Does Trudeau et al think they’ll even make a dent? Apparently, yes. Imagine the chutzpah to think 1/10th the economy would achieve the goals of such fantasy.

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  20. Gary Morton says:

    Trudeau will be gone in the spring elections. His popularity is at bottom. His losing trade war is just another symptom of his party’s lack of economic vision. Trudeau and Freeland are part of the old globalist order and controlled by the EU, and to some extent China.
    In Canada, since the 1800s it was the Conservative Party that was against free trade and for building Canada’s internal economy.
    It was a mistake to gut Canada via NAFTA and turn it into a vehicle for other nations to dump goods into the USA.
    Canada has to return to its own industry and that can’t be done without some pain. Though Trump will speed it up if he decides to mop up the floor with Trudeau in a trade war.
    In the long term it is better for Canada to get walloped and then build a real economy.

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    • wheatietoo says:

      Pres Trump is only doing the same thing to other countries…that they have been doing to the US.

      So why didn’t people call it a “trade war” before now?

      Canada has been waging a ‘trade war’ against the US, for decades.
      Mexico has been waging a ‘trade war’ against the US, for decades.
      China has been waging a ‘trade war’ against the US, for decades.
      The EU has been waging a ‘trade war’ against the US, for decades.

      I could go on. The List is long.

      But only *Now* are people calling it a “trade war”…when the US starts doing the same thing, that other countries have been doing to the US.

      I’m sick of hearing about a ‘trade war’.
      Because the entire developed World has been waging a trade war against…us.
      We just haven’t been returning fire.

      Pres Trump did *not* start this ‘trade war’.
      He inherited it.
      He is just the first President we’ve had, since Reagan…to fight back for us.

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      • Cooper45 says:

        wheatietoo:
        “Pres Trump is only doing the same thing to other countries…that they have been doing to the US.”
        This is a salient fact that is rarely mentioned by anyone other than Trump (or SD) and if any country’s trade rep was to admit it they would be fired. The only difference to your comparison is that the American negotiators that arranged the early trade deals were either incompetent or didn’t care about trade deficits, millions of lost jobs etc. due to their alliances with special interests in the USA or abroad that profited from these unfair deals.

        The other countries had the upper hand in the “phony trade wars” (it was more a deliberate sell out of some Americans) of the past due to the shortcomings of the American negotiators as Trump often says and not because the other countries stole anything.

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        • Cooper45 says:

          Wheatietoo:
          I failed to mention that your comment “We just haven’t been returning fire.” summed up my entire verbose post in 7 words. I need to learn how to edit and condense.

          One of Churchill’s cabinet colleagues said, “Winston thinks with his mouth.” Sounds like me only not as articulately.

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    • Sunshine says:

      Sorry but his favorable ratings shot up some 16 points over Scheer that had been leading in the polls. Even if Scheer wins the election, he’ll be a weak leader.

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  21. rrick says:

    I have some serious questions.

    -Will Canada’s response to the ‘trade wars’ create a depressed economy within their country?

    -What will happen when the CA government finds they can no longer sustain their retaliatory response?

    -What will happen to the workers, the working families, the youths just entering the workforce?

    -Who will CA turn to for relief?

    -What, if any, aid could be expected from the UK?

    -If pictured as a vacuum, who is likely to fill that vacuum?

    -Given CA’s currently existing economic alliance with China, may we expect that China will play a larger role in CA’s economic recovery?

    -Will CA become more of a proxy between China and the USA then it is currently?

    -Will USA accept an increase in immigration from CA?

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    • rrick says:

      If it is true (and I have no reason to disbelieve him) what zerodarkthirtyblog is saying about the ‘I’m sorry’ state of the Canadians and that many actually like Trudeau, and that sparkles is a committed socialist who apparently from a point of pride and bruised ego has decided to go ‘all in’ in retaliatory tariffs; and that to the south, Mexico has gone even further off the rails with the impending election of the communist…what will the next, say five years have in store for the United States?

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    • Robert Smith says:

      They will sell themselves to the Chinese.

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    • wheatietoo says:

      China may have their own problems…with their own economy, keeping it afloat.

      China may not have the extra cash to go pumping money into other countries, like they have been doing.

      China might have to start selling off some of their foreign investments…just to keep China’s people from taking to the streets and revolting against the current regime.

      As far as “what’s in store for the United States?”
      I would rather be the country that has Jobs, a growing economy and people with money in their pockets…than any other country on the planet.

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  22. Jim Kin says:

    Please let me add to WildSailor’s post. President Trump also should cut out the B-1 visas for the Canadian Ice Hockey Players. This would allow huge numbers of American players to get a chance in the minor professional hockey leagues in the United States.

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  23. scott467 says:

    “Chinese central government, as well as Asian and EU corporations, pay Canada and Mexico (through trade agreements) for U.S. market access. Essentially Mexico and Canada are trade brokers or pass-throughs.”

    __________________

    They are like thieves standing at the back door to a residence.

    They don’t dare rob the place themselves, so they tell all their criminal pals about the opportunity for an easy score and then stand there at the door with their hand open, collecting a cover charge from all the other criminals as they pass through the back door to rob the place.

    The ‘place’ being OUR COUNTRY.

    That’s what Canadia is doing.

    Just like the narco/terrorist state formerly known as Mexico on our other border.

    Great friends.

    True allies.

    Beacons of virtue.

    Pillars of the ‘community’.

    The criminal community, that is.

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  24. Don L says:

    What if we played the game like Mexico and shipped all our illegals north?

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  25. Lady Sid says:

    I am looking across Lake Erie at “Middle Island,” the southernmost point in the entire giant country of Canadia. This flyspeck is inhabited only by greasy cormorants, a fish-eating duck which creates a nasty poop everywhere it lands. Not good for much else. The Canadians who visit our shores are a sulky bunch, coming over in their small craft, carrying cases of Molson’s/Labatt’s, so they don’t have to spend a “loony” on any US purchases. Sunday mornings at our village docks, the Canadians can be depended on to leave garbage bags full of empty beer cans on the docks as they depart to head back to Kingville or Windsor or whatever depleted ville they came from. Tipping is an alien concept to them. They get a $20 roll of US quarters before they leave home and parcel these out at the various restaurants and bars they go to.

    Heaven help you if you are involved in some legal dispute/boating accident with them. Try extraditing one of these clowns if there’s a serious problem, like there was a couple of years ago when a young Canadian driving his power boat under the influence, cut another boat in two, killing a couple of people in American waters (off Kelley’s Island OH). He fled the scene. Nice.
    Their passive-aggressive nature — oh, hell, let’s just call it what it is — ENVY, shows itself during our national holidays, such as Independence Day, coming up in a couple of days. I heard one Canadian boater mutter under his breath, but loud enough for me to hear, “Oh, right, run up the flag, have a parade, why don’t you?” Really a sour crowd. Not good for much.

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  26. Kris says:

    I love the way they look at each other during the question like “oh shit, who wants to answer that” and then after, nodding their heads like, “good job, that sounded like a really good answer”!!! 😀

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  27. Gary Thomson says:

    That group standing there looks like the college of clowns.

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  28. Instructor says:

    Can Canada out dumb itself.

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  29. Maggat says:

    “Brilliant ‘eh!” No, damn stupid to say the least. I do hope Americans realize just how close they came to a similar political disaster. I hope not to much damage is done to Canada before we can rid ourselves of our nitwit and his band of merry idiots.

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  30. Keith says:

    Kinda weird to me , went to Canada last year, for about 4 weeks. Camped across the country entered from Main. Border Comtrol was nice, told them I had too much wine, he asked how much. I told them he laughed and sent us on. Prince Edward Isle was lovely, trans canada highway was rough as a cob. Quebec was beautiful , folks were pleasant. Hate they have to put up with soy boy Trudeau.

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