Sunday Talks – Explosive Interview With Devin Nunes…

Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee Devin Nunes appears on Sunday Morning Futures with Maria Bartiromo to discuss the origin of the counterintelligence operation, that began in July 2016, against the Trump campaign.

Last week the FBI released the original “electronic communication” (EC) documents that underpinned the origin of the FBI counterintelligence operation.  The first half of this interview contains some stunning information: the raw intelligence product within the EC did not come through official intelligence channels.

Meaning, the origin of the 2016 counterintelligence operation, which was specifically started by CIA Director John Brennan sharing his ‘raw intelligence product’ with the FBI, was not an official product of the U.S. intelligence community. Brennan was NOT using official partnerships with intelligence agencies of our Five-Eyes partner nations; and he did not provide raw intelligence -as an outcome of those relationships- to the FBI.

The questions, many of which are rhetorical against the backdrop of political motives, become: if the EC is not based on official intelligence from U.S. intelligence apparatus or any of the ‘five-eyes’ partners, then what is the origin, source and purpose therein, of the unofficial raw intelligence? Who created it? And why?

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As we begin to ponder the ramifications and answers to the questions in the first half of this interview, we must remember that CIA Director John Brennan gave congressional testimony last year where he explained how he delivered the raw intelligence product itself.  We spotted this issue, and Brennan’s obfuscation therein, a year ago, when Brennan first gave his testimony.

On May 23rd, 2017, Former CIA Director John Brennan gave very specific testimony to congress where he noted he provided the raw intelligence to FBI Director Comey – FULLSTOP.

Listen carefully to the opening statement from former CIA Director John Brennan May 23rd, 2017, during his testimony to congress.  Pay very close attention to the segment at 13:35 of this video of Brennan’s testimony:

Brennan: [13:35]  “Third, through the so-called Gang-of-Eight process we kept congress apprised of these issues as we identified them.”

“Again, in consultation with the White House, I PERSONALLY briefed the full details of our understanding of Russian attempts to interfere in the election to congressional leadership; specifically: Senators Harry Reid, Mitch McConnell, Dianne Feinstein and Richard Burr; and to representatives Paul Ryan, Nancy Pelosi, Devin Nunes and Adam Schiff between 11th August and 6th September [2016], I provided the same briefing to each of the gang of eight members.”

“Given the highly sensitive nature of what was an active counter-intelligence case [that means the FBI], involving an ongoing Russian effort, to interfere in our presidential election, the full details of what we knew at the time were shared only with those members of congress; each of whom was accompanied by one senior staff member.”…

In the last paragraph of the testimony above, remember Brennan is describing the creation of the Clinton-Steele dossier and how it was used to generate a fraudulent October 21st, 2016 FISA Title-1 Surveillance Warrant against U.S. Person Carter Page.  In hindsight, and against the known facts from research, we can clearly identify the need for the FISA warrant.  The FBI and larger team of co-conspirators needed to have a retroactive legal basis for the political surveillance that was happening long before the warrant was issued.

That unlawful foundational FBI surveillance, which happened prior to October 2016, included the use of unauthorized FISA-702 queries of the NSA and FBI database for political opposition research by contractors.  Again, much like the unofficial origin of the raw intelligence that began the July 2016 counterintelligence op, the FISA(702) abuse was simply more ‘unofficial’ use of the intelligence apparatus.

It was the FBI (Comey) and ODNI (Clapper) generating the intel reports, including the Presidents’ Daily Briefing (PDB).

The CIA provided raw intel, to start the operation, and the FBI and DOJ-NSD (National Security Division) generated the raw monitoring intelligence from the characters identified by the CIA, FBI, DOJ-NSD and approved by FBI FISA warrant submissions.

The FBI were running the counter-intelligence operation and generating the actual reports that were eventually shared with the White House, Susan Rice and the Dept of Justice.  Those reports, or interpretations of the report content, were leaked to the media by political operatives in the IC (and specifically FBI) throughout the deployment of the “insurance policy”.

During the time James Comey’s FBI was generating the intelligence reports, Comey admitted he intentionally never informed congressional oversight: “because of the sensitivity of the matter“.

John Brennan was smartly (and intentionally) positioning himself out of the picture from the perspective of the illegal acts within the entire process.  ODNI James Clapper while rubbing his face and scratching his head had taken the same route earlier.  That would leave James Comey, Andrew McCabe and the small group within the DOJ-NSD and FBI.  The CIA and DNI wanted all fingerprints to be from DOJ and FBI.

In his May 2017 testimony, Director Brennan goes on to say the main substance of those Gang of Eight briefings (2016) was the same as the main judgements of the January 2017 classified and unclassified intelligence assessments published by the CIA, FBI, DNI and NSA (intelligence community).

That January reference was the infamous 17 agencies report, from CIA (Brennan), DNI (Clapper), FBI (Comey) and NSA (Rogers), all who had confidence -except Rogers-  according to the report, that Russia was attempting to interfere in the 2016 election. The intelligence report was finished January 4, 2017, the day before the White House meeting with Comey, Brennan, Clapper, etc. and documented by Susan Rice.

Now, a critic might think that Brennan is informing congress on one thing (Russian investigation), and Comey due to his March 20th admissions (Trump investigation), is NOT INFORMING congress on another.  However, that angle is rebuked by Brennan’s own testimony that his specific intelligence product (CIA) was given to the FBI who were exclusively in charge of the “counter-intelligence investigation“.

What’s happening here in May 2017 is actually John Brennan creating his defense, and positioning James Comey as the primary person who is to blame for any outcome therein.  In May 2017, deploying the “insurance policy” was still plausible – but it was becoming less likely to succeed.  Reader Dan encapsulated what Brennan was trying to do nicely in this paragraph: [Note, this is from Brennan’s perspective as he attempts to exit liability]

[…] Brennan gave Comey the investigative product -which had nothing to do with the Trump team-  and Comey used it to carry out Obama, Hillary, and Susan Rice’s dirty work for them. Of course Brennan was in on the whole thing and is now saving his own skin by saying ” I briefed ya’ll on everything I had with regards to Russia, anything additional that arose please talk to my buddy Comey”.

CIA Director John Brennan was making James Comey own the “Counter-Intelligence ‘Muh Russia’” claims about the Trump campaign. As a consequence, Brennan was trying to make Comey the fall-guy for a Robert Mueller investigative outcome in case everything fell apart and their deployment of the “insurance policy” failed.

Brennan knows there’s no ‘there’ there.

The entire construct of the “Russian Investigation” was the political use of manufactured intelligence, used to create an investigation in order to weaken, perhaps eliminate, President-Elect Trump or President Trump.  This was their “insurance policy”.

However, there simply was no ‘there’ there because there’s no substantive evidence to support a “Trump Campaign Collusion Narrative”.  Eventually, all avenues to prove the existence of something, that doesn’t exist, hit a dead end.

Knowing this was a likely outcome, in May 2017 John Brennan realized that someone has focused attention on Comey’s March 20th admission to congress that the FBI intentionally kept congress in the dark during the construct of the counter-intel narrative.

Congress was kept in the dark during this phase because the narrative can only thrive with innuendo, rumor, gossip etc.   The appearance of the investigation itself was the political need; the substance was non-existent and immaterial to the creation of the narrative.

If Comey notified congress, via the Gang of Eight oversight, the counter-intel narrative would have been harder to manufacture as details would have to be consistent.  That’s the benefit to keeping any oversight away while creating the politically useful narrative.

In May 2017, CIA Director John Brennan, facing the looming reality the underlying Russian ‘collusion evidence’ being non-existent, was trying to give the appearance that he briefed congress on larger Russian election interference issues.  However , the trouble for Brennan is his own admission that these issues were the underlying principle for the FBI counter-intelligence investigation.  Brennan specifically says he gave his intelligence product to the FBI.

Brennan was attempting to create plausible deniability for his role in a constructing a political narrative; a false narrative.

Again, May 23rd, 2017, WATCH THE RETREAT:

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It’s not accidental this Brennan retreat is being facilitated by a member of congress John Brennan admits to briefing last year.  Gang-of-Eight member, Adam Schiff.

BACKSTORY

Now keep in mind, with this interview by Chairman Devin Nunes highlighting there was no official intelligence apparatus used in the creation of the “raw intelligence” passed on by CIA Director John Brennan; and understanding the HPSCI is directing investigative inquiry toward the State Department; and knowing that President Trump has just nominated his own head of the CIA to become Secretary of State; …is it a surprise to see the political leadership of the Democrat Party attempting to block Pompeo?

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781 Responses to Sunday Talks – Explosive Interview With Devin Nunes…

  1. AH_C says:

    Boom.

    Let the heads roll. Wonder who will get the Arkancide treatment next?

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  2. JX says:

    Russia Russia Russia is delusion. The Chalupa family of Ukrainian-American extremists suffers pareidolia and sees Russians everywhere, Podesta foolishly fell for a run-of-the-mill phishing e-mail, and Crowdstrike based their report on the claims of a Russian blogger. These delusional maniacs suffer confirmation bias.

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  3. Publius2016 says:

    The fact President Trump opened the MLK JFK Files May be one reason this INSANITY CONTINUES! Makes zero sense how these False Flags continue…everyone knew Obama was protected by the Agency but this is NOW RIDICULOUS!!! President Trump won fair and square…took the Rust Belt going away! 2020 will be even better margins

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  4. So we went from Five Eyes straight to FISA. This is starting to remind me of Homeland.

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  5. MaineCoon says:

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    • “No official intel used to start FBI probe into Trump campaign-Russia collusion:
      Rep. Nunes”

      “We now know that there was no official intelligence that was used to start this investigation. We know that Sidney Blumenthal and others were pushing information into the State Department. So we’re trying to piece all that together and that’s why we continue to look at the State Department,
      …there was no intelligence that passed through the Five Eyes channels to our government. And that’s why we had to see that original communication.”

      1. Nunes ELIMINATES NSA-Database spying suspects from British, Canadian, Australian and New Zealand allies … forcing Deep State to own it or prove otherwise.

      2. Nunes FINGERS Obama’s State Department as Co-Conspirator … STRIKING TERROR into the Deep State who know CIA-Director and Former-Congressman Pompeo knows how to ferret out the PERPS.

      Guess why the UniParty opposes Pompeo’s confirmation as Sec of State!

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  6. covfefe999 says:

    Commenter David posted a link to a Guardian article and I’ve been reading it. It’s dated Apr 13 2017 and it’s full of information. I don’t think I saw it then, and I probably wouldn’t have understood most of it at that time anyway. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/apr/13/british-spies-first-to-spot-trump-team-links-russia

    According to one account, GCHQ’s then head, Robert Hannigan, passed material in summer 2016 to the CIA chief, John Brennan. The matter was deemed so sensitive it was handled at “director level”. After an initially slow start, Brennan used GCHQ information and intelligence from other partners to launch a major inter-agency investigation. In late August and September Brennan gave a series of classified briefings to the Gang of Eight, the top-ranking Democratic and Republican leaders in the House and Senate. He told them the agency had evidence the Kremlin might be trying to help Trump to win the presidency, the New York Times reported

    Keep in mind this article is dated Apr 13 2017. Comey’s testimony was in March of that year and Brennan’s was in May. Who leaked this info to the Guardian? Brennan maybe?

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  7. Obs says:

    Brennan and Clapper are a bridge too far for prosecution….. be satisfied with despising their Deep state born to rule bureaucratic arrogance and resign yourself to repeating itself all over again.

    The DOJ prosecutor is still agonising over charging McCabe. 🙂

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    • Robert Smith says:

      They may have to meet justice black ops style.

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    • Military tribunals as in Nuremberg. Now we see where that was coming from. International crimes. But not related to open war. These would result from a secret war.

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    • Jedi9 says:

      No I don’t think so! Treason can still be brought up as charges on these Two if I am not mistaken!

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    • “Agonising” ?

      Cite your source.
      Britain’s far-left rag the “Independant”?

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    • DrNo76 says:

      “Brennan was NOT using official partnerships with intelligence agencies of our Five-Eyes partner nations; and he did not provide raw intelligence -as an outcome of those relationships- to the FBI.” Perhaps t.he easy explanation is simply this: Reports say that Steele gave his dossier to MI6. MI6 gives same to the GCHC fellow, who gives same to Brennan but telling him explicitly, it is not MI6 or GCHQ intelligence. Therefore, it is neither US, nor Five Eyes material. Its just the dossier Steele cooked up. Also could explain the HGHQ guy’s abrupt resignation 3 days into Trump Admin. He was out of bounds passing to CIA farcical product. And embarrassment to HMS.

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      • Kent Neal says:

        I have always believed that Nellie Ohr was the author of the dossier during the course of her work at Fusion GPS. Steele was just a hired cutout used to disguise the source.

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        • Grassleygirl/Breitbartista says:

          I completely agree with your belief.
          In fact I b4ought this up as soon as I heard she was hired at Fusion,was a radio ham operator and had a backround of some sorts in Russian studies.
          The novel wtites itself.Too bad it’s not fiction.
          She also has the face for radio…Sorry I denounce myself
          I’m sure she envisioned herself as a super secret agent 99.

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  8. Brian Baker says:

    Some people need to go to jail for a very long time for perpetrating this lie on the American people.

    When exactly is Jeff Sessions going to un-recuse himself from a HOAX?

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  9. Genie says:

    Brennan threw Comey under the bus. Then Comey got up and threw Priestap under the bus on the congressional notification delay. Has Priestap publicly contradicted Comey on this, or are we still waiting to hear it?

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  10. Hmmm... says:

    One other thing to consider is that the overlap between the CIA and the State Department is significant. When Pompeo goes from the CIA to State he is bringing with him the knowledge of the exact composition of embedded CIA personnel. In addition, Nunes going after the State Department for their involvement is in my view the only way to expose corrupt behavior in the CIA since only the parts that overlap would be visible enough to expose. I would guess Pompeo took care of the bad guys in the CIA during his time there but it is unlikely we would ever hear about it. The overlapping corrupt pieces with State are the ones that can be exposed to public scrutiny. Pompeo going to State will be a critically damaging move which explains why it is being opposed so heavily. I also believe this move was calculated extremely far in advance which gave Team Trump time to build an extremely strong case against the Dems for obstructing this critical move (the N. Korea talks).

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    • Hmmm … Brilliant post!

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    • Newhere says:

      I second. Great analysis, thanks!

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    • Mary Morse says:

      Remember the name Jonathan Winer ($tate fixture under Kerry, @ APCO during HRC tenure, William Browder’s attorney)
      https://www.weeklystandard.com/the-weird-tales-of-jonathan-winer/article/2011542

      https://libertyunyielding.com/2017/12/08/russian-organized-crime-mysteries-mueller-democrats-russia-trump-thing/
      …”It was during this period that Winer worked with British intelligence on a Russian crime boss of special interest to Glenn Simpson: Semion Mogilevich. The bulk of U.S. reporting on the case of Mogilevich allegedly laundering money through the Bank of New York, including Glenn Simpson’s, spanned the period 1999 to 2007. As the Guardian report from 1999 indicated (linked above and here), the timeframe of Winer’s State Department collaboration with the Brits on the Mogilevich case was also when the FBI began working with MI6 extensively on it; i.e., 1998-99.That was also when the Clinton administration was putting together the Eurasian Organized Crime Task Force – and Jonathan Winer was helping “develop President Clinton’s transnational organized crime strategy,” of which that task force was a flagship element.”…

      …”In June 2008, The Hill reported that APCO would be lobbying on behalf of Browder “on issues regarding U.S. and international business climates in emerging markets.” (This was before Magnitsky’s death in the Russian prison.) Jonathan Winer was named as the APCO principal for this representation.”…

      …”But what the Winer links show is that it’s not hard to find someone with the opportunity and exposure to know, or know the work of, everyone who was involved with the dossier – and who is also connected to all the other players, because of the nature of the common link between them.”…

      https://phiquyenchinh.org/2017/10/06/the-killing-of-william-browder/
      …”A week later, Amazon’s publishing company, CreateSpace “suppressed” my book, purging it from Amazon.com website and from its Kindle store.
      CreateSpace explained that a third party claimed that my book “may contain defamatory content,” and that to resolve the issues I needed to contact Mr. Jonathan M. Winer, Mr. Browder’s legal counsel.”…

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  11. CinammonBear says:

    Trump tweeted that the Special Council (means group) started with an illegal James Comey leak and asks if America knows what that really means. What is really means is that the members of the Special Council are co-conspirators in the frame Trump efforts. Thus the members of the Special Council have criminal liability.

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  12. Judiciary says:

    This coup is still in operation. We need to see some major developments in its complete shut down and exposure of all perps. Sign me: Impatient

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    • Mickturn says:

      Yep but now we all know what they did and what direction they are attempting to go…more evidence, and another 20 years on top of the 20 they have all earned in PRISON! I prefer public Hangings but that’s just my Vietnam PTSD talking!

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  13. Yeah, what this could mean is that other 5-eyes intel agencies had “contractors” and/or rogue elements doing raw intel database queries and feeding the info to Brennan in the beginning.

    So the whole thing was “back channeled”. So no *OFFICIAL* 5-eyes EC. But UK/AUS IC elements were getting this thing rolling along with our domestic “contractors” (likely Fusion GPS). All feeding the raw intel to Brennan. Clapper is somewhere in this too. And Obama.

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    • Dixie T says:

      Actually, I read recently where Fusion GPS was also a “contractor” of FBI information. I doubt the “5-eyes” even had a part in all of this. I think they were “by-passed” in order to allow contractors of the FBI’s choosing—such as Fusion GPS! The FISA Court ALREADY “chastised” the FBI for allowing outside contractors access to “raw intelligence,” several years ago!!!!

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      • What you said doesn’t make any sense. Why would rogue 5-eyes elements be “by-passed”? Brennan would use them all. In particular rogue 5-eyes, because they can interface directly with the CIA. Domestic intel via rogue contractors/NSA would be harder for CIA to access, and they had to get around Mike Rogers, so that business is likely to have gotten underway later.

        Question being asked is how did it all start? Answer is Brennan. Brennan is open to any and all foreign intel through the CIA. If its all “unofficial” (no official 5-eyes), then we need to be asking whether 5-eyes also had “contractors” and/or rogue agents within 5-eyes feeding info to Brennan.

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        • Mickturn says:

          I’m sure Brennan, unofficially, used everything he had access to, 5 eyes or not, to build the Dossier! Why not make the ‘intelligence’ fit his objective, real or not to Trash Trump and get rid of him. I have one thing to say, here, HELL hath no fury like the American People Scorned! BIG UGLY Perps, wait for it, your time is nigh! The Gallows are being built and the Ropes weaved!

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        • I think what Nunes is saying here there was no foreign intelligence, All the stories about communication intercepted by the Estonians, Brussels, Britain ect between Trump associates and Russians that have circulated in the press were bogus . That is my takeaway .
          The dossier was it

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          • Nunes was only talking about the EC that was used to trigger the initial COINTEL activities through the FBI. We don’t know about surveillance (if any) that was ongoing prior to the triggering EC. Chances are good that Trump was under 5-eyes surveillance or “contractors” tied to 5-eyes long before the originating EC.

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        • TarsTarkas says:

          Brennan would avoid using the 5-eyes because he could not be certain which members who would ‘need-to-know’ would be reliable. Look at what happened when McCabe sat on the Weiner laptop; an FBI agent not in the conspiracy started to demand what was happening to the laptop files, it got out into the open, and as a result the lightning-fast Speedy Gonzalez review of Weiner’s ‘insurance policy’ emails to re-clear HRC which may well have proved to be the tipping point in the election.

          I still firmly believe the Russian connection to the Steele Dossier was simply one of the many cut-outs to create a false sense of ‘foreign’ origin to what was a HRC campaign dirty trick created out of whole cloth. Micturating prostitutes, forsooth! Couldn’t the overgrown kids in charge of HRC’s black ops come up with something more believable than that? Did they think the inclusion of that ‘incident’ was floor-rolling funny? I don’t think they’re laughing now. That addition likely rendered the rest of the dossier less believable even to the gullible.

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          • For the originating EC Brennan would circulate to get the ball rolling, I agree, probably not going to involve “official” 5-eyes. Unofficial channels, with 5-eyes access, perhaps a different story.

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  14. Rob Howarka says:

    Remember to try and archive your/ our findings offline – for later review. It is not beyond capability for retroactive editing (insertion and removal) of information from prior articles/ posts particularly within the media.

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  15. thedoc00 says:

    Interesting summary of an article by Jack Goldsmith, in the Guardian, over on Power Line website about the deep state.

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  16. JAS says:

    Hmmm, Paul Ryan was privy from the get go…..

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  17. rigs1950 says:

    History has taught us no one is going to jail, and prosecutions are highly unlikely. Optimism will be neutered by reality. Democrats/republicans are both criminal enterprises working together to steal us blind, and destroy the republic. Until they’re gone, we’re screwed. We are in desperate need of American leadership. One man alone can’t do it. We need to fire them all and begin again.

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    • Steve says:

      I’m sure Russian dissidents were saying that in 1985. “History has taught us that…” 4 years later: pooooof! There goes the USSR! I think this is so big that even the sit on the fences and plain crooks can’t ignore it. I even think the MSM will start covering it at one point.

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  18. deqwik2 says:

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    • So Downer = Rogue MI6, ex-MI6 and/or “contractor”?

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      • deqwik2 says:

        Downer was on an advisory board for retired MI6 agents group known as Hakluyt. Through this association, he was involved with a lot of foreign governments including China.

        “Hakluyt isn’t familiar to the American public. But what has become well-known in recent days is the role played by one of the London firm’s most visible figures in drawing the FBI into the world of Trump-Russia collusion allegations, a world largely created by Steele in the infamous dossier bearing his name.

        Downer, a long-time Aussie chum of Bill and Hillary Clinton, had been on Hakluyt’s advisory board since 2008. Officially, he had to resign his Hakluyt role in 2014, but his informal connections continued uninterrupted, the News Corp. Australian Network reported in a January 2016 exclusive:

        But it can be revealed Mr. Downer has still been attending client conferences and gatherings of the group, including a client cocktail soirée at the Orangery at Kensington Palace a few months ago.

        His attendance at that event is understood to have come days after he also attended a two-day country retreat at the invitation of the group, which has been involved in a number of corporate spy scandals in recent times.

        It was Downer who told the FBI of Papodopoulos’ comments, which became one of the “driving factors that led the FBI to open an investigation in July 2016 into Russia’s attempts to disrupt the election and whether any of President Trump’s associates conspired,” The Times reported.”

        https://www.lifezette.com/polizette/meet-hillary-clintons-other-more-powerful-shadowy-oppo-research-firm/

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        • deqwik2 says:

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        • What do you make of the two setups, Trump jr & Papadopolous , not making it into Steele’s Dossier?

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          • deqwik2 says:

            Trump Jr was a meeting in US for everyone to see/ hear about.

            They needed an outside source to pass info on Papadop. Something separate from dossier to make it look more real.

            They did link a Papadop friend to unnamed sources in the dossier. Sergei Millian was said to be the source for the golden showers and a FB friend with GP. Millian has denied being the source. I wonder if this was the original intent for using GP but they changed stories after he met Mifsud. It’s too crazy to think about sometimes.

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        • OK Downer was a Clinton crony and also Australian high commissioner to the UK with ties to Hakluyt and Huawei. Got it. Methinks Hakluyt may have had similar access to GCHQ as Fusion GPS did to NSA for the purposes of feeding intel to Brennan.

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          • deqwik2 says:

            Hannigan GCHQ came to US & briefed Brennan. Hannigan’s counterpart was Mike Rogers but he went outside of normal channels & went to Brennan.

            I’m sure Hakluyt had some type of access even if it was old friends that still worked in UK intel.

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  19. Another Scott says:

    “in order to weaken … President Trump.” Maybe the goals of the “insurance Policy” were more numerous than we realize. Remember that hideous budget that President Trump had to sign? Maybe being weakened and expending energy to defend himself from the insurance policy caused him to be checkmated in the budget process…the swamp loves its money more than anything else….

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  20. Justbill says:

    As with any conspiracy with so many actors involved, each participant is going to have their own motives at play. And those actors in turn are going to be influenced by even others. As an example, Michael Flynn had to be taken out for a couple of reasons. The most important was that he was going to reverse the infiltration of our IC by Muslim Brotherhood members and/or sympathizers. Pass this job off to McCabe, who wanted him taken out as payback for defending a former agent who accused McCabe and the department of sexual harrassment. Clinton wanted to take Trump out to assure her victory. And when that didn’t work, as revenge for beating her. In the shadows egging her on is Donahue from CofC, who wants him taken out for entirely different reasons. And so on and so forth. So what you actually have are conspiracies within conspiracies, overlapping with other conspiracies. And because of that, mistakes are made, clues that may as well have a gps tracking device yelling “Here I am!” Lies that are so sloppily told, that make you just laugh at the absurdity of it.
    But it is complicated. It takes time to unravel. It requires patience and thoroughness. It also has to lull the actors into a false sense of safety. Make them feel like they are smarter than the investigators. And bulletproof where they think it’s okay to write a book. Or exchange 50,000 text messages. Or set up a private server with classified information on it. Or hire a Pakistani national and his family to run 50 democrat house members IT networks. And then defend them as they are caught moving vast data, our countries secrets, to places unknown.
    This a complicated investigation. I would be surprised if Huber is the only US Attorney working this. It’s too vast. I would wager there are several US Attorneys and several grand juries, all working in unison. All for the goal of righting this ship called the United States. A ship that very much needed to to be put back on course by the steady hand of an admiral and maybe even a priest.

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    • JX says:

      By now so many false trails have been laid down that it may be impossible to figure out.

      Time Is Of The Essence

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    • Sugarhillhardrock says:

      I’ll bet a lot of money you are right about multiple US attorneys and multiple grand juries.

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    • Mickturn says:

      In other words the sharks didn’t just do the Big Ugly, they were chumming the water at the same time with Media Leaks…

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    • Steve says:

      Excellent comment. Their biggest weakpoint is their incredible hubris and arrogance – and their fear of going to prison. Expect a lot of snitching and backstabbing between now and November.

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  21. Deplorable_Infidel says:

    Maria is on fire and right on track.

    I notice she did not get the “suspicious cat” treatment ! No pose this time?

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    • Raven says:

      Yes, Maria was methodical as always.

      But what struck me more was Nunes.
      He came across as very confident – much more than previously. In the past he’s skirted around sensitive issues and often been careful with his answers.

      Not this time. He plainly answered questions and seemed to have an air of ‘let’s call a spade a shovel’ about him.

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  22. AKM says:

    I interpret Brennan’s May 23rd testimony differently. He seems to be proudly saying that he initiated the investigation. He genuinely seems proud of the fact that he initiated things. In fact he is crowing about it, as if it was clear as day that Russia was involved in the US election. It is almost as if he is polishing his medal as a hero, nobly, and valiantly fighting back against those nasty Russians. I think that he and other at that stage were still thinking they were covered and the Russia story was still being bought. At the very least, he is committing perjury, lying brazenly to Congress, inventing events that did not happen.

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    • I remember when Comey wanted to go public about the Russian menace in an opt ed in July 2016 and Obama overruled him . Maybe Brennan and Obama had the FBI believing the info . Obama could have put the tampers on Comey to protect the wiretaps and keep the Hoax going’
      1. Russian Hoax
      2.. Y2 K
      3..Charlottesville
      4. Orson Welles War of the Worlds
      Greatest Hoaxes in last 80 years all perpetrated by leftists

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  23. ablefox says:

    The Blumenthal is off the Russian Ruse.

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  24. JX says:

    Joseph Mifsud (allegedly with Clinton Foundation) tells Papadopoulos tells Alexander Downer (Hakluyt/MI6) tells Hannigan (GCHQ) tells Brennan.

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    • KevinUK says:

      And don’t forget to mention that all of the above (excluding Brennan) have known links to me M16. IMO it’s therefore fair to say that the UK Secret Services have been and no doubt continue to be complicit in interfering with (and attempting to cover up that interference in) the lawful election of a United States President.

      IMO in the fullness of time it will also be shown that (honoured by the Queen) Pablo Miller of the FCO, Sergei Skripal’s handler was Nellie Ohr’s main source of the ‘salacious’ aspects of the Steele dossier. Perhaps this is also why the UK went to such embarrassing lengths to stage a ‘hoax’ poisoning of the Skripal’s with an alleged nerve agent ‘of a type developed in Russia’.

      https://www.thedailybeast.com/pablo-miller-the-mystery-man-who-recruited-putins-poisoned-spy

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    • bayoukiki says:

      But if Pap tells Downer in London, shouldn’t it have come through the Five Eyes that truly was the event that sparked the surveillance? Help me out here — I’ve been watching this very closely but this is starting to give me a huge headache!!!!!!

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  25. So the investigation *was* started by Papadopolous, but the info didn’t come through proper channels? Interesting new lead, but I still have my doubts

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    • covfefe999 says:

      One thing that makes me feel better about this: Nunes knows what started it. I wish we did. Nunes had received the initial briefing by Brennan in the fall of 2016. (I hope he made some Comey-style memos!) And Nunes has now seen the EC.

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  26. Everett Miller says:

    A lot of smart people did some really dumb things being blinded by their leftist ideology–all justified in their minds by the false assumption that no one on the ‘outside’ would ever know about it. Then,
    Along came the VSGDJT. He has done so many things so brilliantly that we can see, how about all the things we cannot yet see? Was Sessions as AG one of these brilliant moves? Does he distance himself from Sessions as his own kind of ‘insurance policy’ so that when the stuff hits the spinning blades the lefties are unable to fall back on blaming the prosecutions as being political persecutions instead–for the unassuming ever trusting American public?
    Either way–Sessions need to make public some headlines about the impending doom, followed quickly by some perp-walks with handcuffs and cameras. The Grand Master is not well-served by total and complete inaction and silence, nor are we.

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    • covfefe999 says:

      I’m thinking about the layer of co-conspirators like Schiff who didn’t cause the problem but perpetuated it because of their rabid anti-Trump sentiments. Schiff probably never at any time questioned the “intelligence” info he received. None of it seemed suspect to him because his judgement was clouded by his extreme bias

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  27. bullnuke says:

    This whole witch hunt fiasco is based on lies and everyone knows it. I was convinced that the SC was a joke when the premise of the investigation wasn’t looked at from the beginning. Mueller should have been the one to ask to see the EC and proceeded from there. He should have discovered the sedition by those involved. Instead he chose to go off on tangents that hurt this president and his agenda. I pray that Sessions is doing his job and those responsible rot in jail.

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    • covfefe999 says:

      I pray that Sessions is doing his job and those responsible rot in jail.

      This is what I’m hating. We have all of this evidence than many people engaged in serious misconduct if not criminal acts. We should be confident that justice will be done. And yet because the AG is severely compromised we are reduced to HOPING things will work out right.

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      • Donzo says:

        Cofefe, I’m also concerned that, like Mueller, Huber/Horowitz may focus only on process crimes and not expose the purpose behind them. I am referring to Horowitz’s first report about McCabe’s “lack of candor” and not the underlying reasons for his repeated lying. Andrew McCarthy recently wrote an excellent article on this. It’s crucial that Horowitz’s internal investigation results are given context by Huber. The Deep State’s story of how it tried to rob the American people of it’s democracy must be exposed and made plain for all to see.

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        • JX says:

          McCabe has yet to be charged. Perhaps we’ll have “reforms so something like this can’t happen again”… which is wholly unacceptable. JS is allowing Wray to take years for document production, also wholly unacceptable.

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        • ImHopeful says:

          Completely agree. Crimes such as McCabe’s lack of candor are the easy stuff – provable through the review of Lisa Page’s texts and the transcripts of the McCabe interviews (under oath, with 2 agents present) – a proverbial slam dunk.

          I have to believe that the reason this is taking so long is the peeling down: cross-checking, countless interviews and making sure that as each new conspirator is identified that their contacts and activities are also researched. The investigators “sell” it to the prosecutor, the prosecutor packages all the pieces together and “sells” it to the Grand Jury. Without the background, the reasons, the story that weaves it all together – it would be difficult to prove anything other than those “process crimes”. Otherwise it’s just some isolated criminal acts with no real purpose. I’m not an attorney, but even in it’s simplest form, you’d want to show the motives to get your prosecutions.

          If you were an investigator (especially one who is mad about what went on in your agency giving you all a bad name), wouldn’t you want to give every shred of info to the prosecutor to strengthen the cases and allow him/her to make all your difficult investigative work worthwhile?

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  28. Mickturn says:

    It is pretty obvious that Brennan concocted the information in the middle of the CONSPIRACY with his Obama Thug Friends to GET TRUMP. The BIG UGLY now has VALID evidence of their treachery!

    GET A BUNCH OF FREEKIN ROPES, WE have a hanging party to attend to!

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  29. Zippy says:

    The dots connected: there was illegal, top level transfer of Five Eyes ECHELON intel which could not be used, but which initiated the PARALLEL CONSTRUCTION effort via the Steele product:

    ——–

    Int’l Spy Agencies First to Spot ‘Suspicious Interactions’ Between Russia, Trump Team
    13 Apr 2017

    https://www.commondreams.org/news/2017/04/13/intl-spy-agencies-first-spot-suspicious-interactions-between-russia-trump-team

    Excerpt:

    According to one source, Robert Hannigan, who at the time was director of GCHQ, “passed material in summer 2016 to the CIA chief, John Brennan. The matter was deemed so sensitive it was handled at ‘director level.’ After an initially slow start, Brennan used GCHQ information and intelligence from other partners to launch a major inter-agency investigation.”

    ——–

    ‘Concrete evidence of collusion between Trump team and Russia’ handed to official investigation – New evidence comes as sources reveal British spy agency GCHQ played pivotal role in uncovering interactions between US President and Russian operatives
    14 Apr 2017

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/trump-russia-investigation-now-has-specific-concrete-and-corroborative-evidence-of-collusion-a7683386.html

    Excerpt:

    Spy agencies, including GCHQ, were not deliberately targeting members of the Trump team but rather recorded communications through “incidental collection,” CNN reports.

    ——–

    Robert Hannigan quits as head of GCHQ
    Chief of UK’s electronic intelligence service has shaken up its work
    23 Jan 2017 (On the Monday after Trump was sworn in on a Friday)

    https://www.ft.com/content/f8a77910-e189-11e6-8405-9e5580d6e5fb

    Excerpt:

    In a letter to Boris Johnson, the foreign secretary, sent on Monday, Mr Hannigan said it was “the right time to move on”. Sources close to Mr Hannigan, 51, said the decision was taken for personal reasons.

    ——–

    Dark Side
    Secret Origins of Evidence in US Criminal Cases (used via “Parallel Construction”)
    January 9, 2018 – Human Rights Watch

    https://www.hrw.org/report/2018/01/09/dark-side/secret-origins-evidence-us-criminal-cases

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    • Zippy says:

      And, of course, it was Obama’s State Department which aided the parallel construction:

      Gowdy: Former UN Ambassador Samantha Power claims others unmasked in her name

      http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/18/gowdy-former-un-ambassador-samantha-power-claims-others-unmasked-in-her-name.html

      Excerpt:

      Former President Barack Obama’s ambassador to the United Nations has testified that others made so-called unmasking requests in her name, House Oversight Committee Chairman Trey Gowdy said Tuesday.

      “Her testimony is they may be under my name, but I did not make those requests,” Gowdy said of former Ambassador Samantha Power during an interview with Fox News’ Bret Baier on “Special Report with Bret Baier.”

      Power is among the Obama administration figures who made requests to identify Americans whose names surfaced in foreign intelligence reporting, known as unmasking.

      Last month, Fox News reported that Power was unmasking at such a rapid pace in the final months of the Obama administration that she averaged more than one request for every working day in 2016 – and even sought information in the days leading up to President Trump’s inauguration.

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      • Lurker2 says:

        Unmasked in her name? Isn’t that illegal to try to cover up who is making the unmasking request? Horribly unethical at the very least! I thought you-know-who wanted to play “by the book”.

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  30. covfefe999 says:

    Does anyone else find it odd that Nunes was briefed by Brennan in 2016, and so were other Go8 members, but when Rep Stefanik asked Comey if they had been briefed he said ‘no’? Surely the GOP questions were coordinated in advance. Couldn’t Nunes have told Stefanik he had been briefed and just not disclose the briefing information?

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  31. Mickturn says:

    I think ‘Commey’ was answering as to HIS investigation…he thought he was above the law as he has proven numerous times. The fact that HE didn’t brief the Gang of 8 is a major flaw in this whole Big Ugly Charade! He took Brennan’s pile of Sheet and, given his obvious Bias, ran it up to what it is now. That includes his releasing classified memo’s to his buddy to push to the NY Slimes to force the Mueller thing. Rosenstein is either a Traitor or idiot to have set that up! This all proves INTENT as well as actions, all ILLEGAL as Hades! I want to See Commey HANG…the first of many!

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    • Lurker2 says:

      Comey’s testimony came before Brennan’s. I think you might be right, Comey himself did not brief anyone. Brennan later said he did. But surely Comey was aware that Brennan breifed the Gang of 8, no?? I mean, I know Comey was FBI and Brennan was CIA, but surely they do a little bit of communication ON THE SAME INVESTIGATION, don’t they?

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  32. SteveO says:

    once Pompeo [aka Mount Vesuvius] joins the State Dept the house of cards comes down. the DNC lawsuit is a smoke screen. Adam Schiff is freaking out. this goes right to white house. listen to this interview 10 times. “no official channels”…Clinton cronies and Kerry are busted.

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  33. Padric says:

    OK, so in the interview Nunes states that there was no 5 eyes intelligence. That’s good. But then he goes on to say this:

    “So what we found now, after investigators have reviewed it is that, in fact, there was no intelligence.”

    Wait. Wut? What do you mean there was “no intelligence”? Nunes then goes on to talk about Blumenthal and the State Dept. Why go there? Here’s why, from https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/apr/13/british-spies-first-to-spot-trump-team-links-russi:

    Instead both US and UK intelligence sources acknowledge that GCHQ played an early, prominent role in kickstarting the FBI’s Trump-Russia investigation, which began in late July 2016.

    One source called the British eavesdropping agency the “principal whistleblower”.

    and

    According to one account, GCHQ’s then head, Robert Hannigan, passed material in summer 2016 to the CIA chief, John Brennan. The matter was deemed so sensitive it was handled at “director level”. After an initially slow start, Brennan used GCHQ information and intelligence from other partners to launch a major inter-agency investigation.

    “Director level” isn’t the norm and 5 Eyes is not supposed to spy on each other’s citizens and Nunes stated there was no 5 Eyes intel in there.

    So, given the fact that Nunes said there was “no intelligence” in the EC and there was no 5 Eyes intelligence, Brennan likely used the info as/is that was given to him. But it likely contained info which would be the sort of stuff that would normally be handled by the State Dept but is not considered actionable intelligence, Hence Nunes bringing that Department up.

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  34. David R. Graham says:

    So best I can see at this point, the question stands: “Who started the tale-to-become-intel (‘from all 17 IC agencies’) and could make the Deep State feel comfortable running with it?” I think that question is akin to: “Don Tommasino, who could give the order for that massacre, and still pressure the Vatican deal?” Or, in our context: “Who would think they could “cook up stuff” against someone whose very being threatens to expose them as a common thief and also credibly threaten Deep State functionaries if they do not develop the story as told to do?”

    Put another way, of whom are James Comey, Andy McCabe and Robert Mueller and minions afraid, really, truly afraid? Who is NOT in the daily news? Mention of whom did Robert Mueller remove from FBI training manuals? Who is sitting silently and alone in a chair across the room from the argument, controlling the arguers?

    I doubt it is Hillary Clinton, even with their knowing her associations with dead bodies. The Clintons are, always have been, bad-tempered servant-class.

    The Moslem Brotherhood consider themselves, from their start, a revolutionary vanguard, which concept is a Leninist construction. So thinks of itself the Salafi-Shiite Jihad generally. Smaller formations, such as Black Panthers, Black Lives Matter, Media Matters, Democracy Alliance, armies of NGOs and foundations, also consider themselves, mostly for self-flattery, revolutionary vanguards. Now a teen named Hogg says he is one.

    Thus the confluence of Leftist and Jihadist lines of attack as from the late White House occupation. And the foregoing question, contemplating a person’s name, stands. Who would think they could transform a sovereign nation, The USA, into a piggy bank for global governance functionaries, starting with themself, and believe, truly believe, they could make it happen without negative effect on their person or associates?

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  35. Impatient says:

    The real message from Nunes is that the Brits gave Brennan nothing! It was all a charade! All those articles in the Brittish newspaper about “stumbling on to evidence of collusion” – all made up! The Brits hated Trump because his “America First” nationalism was fueling the Brexit movement! That’s why Harrigan resigned.

    Incidentally, the Brittish equivalent to our NSA was built by us, and 80% of it’s work is as a subcontractor to us. They are heavily indebted to us – they have a state-of-the-art facility that cost them practically nothing, and the subcontracts from us practically pay for the operation of the facility. That is considerable leverage that Brennan may have used to get them on board, in addition to the fact that they hated Trump.

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    • Lurker2 says:

      Look at that Guardian article linked to in prior comments. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/apr/13/british-spies-first-to-spot-trump-team-links-russia

      “GCHQ’s then head, Robert Hannigan, passed material in summer 2016 to the CIA chief, John Brennan. The matter was deemed so sensitive it was handled at “director level”.”

      So apparently this info from Hannigan was routed through a back door and not in the normal manner British intelligence would be passed to the US. And it was probably done so purposefully because it was crap and Brennan knew it! And then came additional sketchy into from other countries that Brennan lumped on the pile and then presented to the Gang of Eight as if it were all legit and all came through accepted intelligence channels.

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      • SteveO says:

        and spoon fed it to Harry Reid that pressured Comey to act on it. just needed appearance of investigation to muddy the campaign coverage and elect HRC…all this goes under the rug if HRC wins. oops.

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        • SteveO says:

          http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/is-there-more-to-the-flynn-story/

          “It also explains how and why the investigation [Flynn] proceeded as aggressively as it did: information derived from a major foreign intelligence partner could not be easily dismissed or ignored and would have to be acted upon.

          Hannigan’s exit is almost certainly more than it seems, and the Flynn dismissal also would appear to have aspects that have not yet surfaced and, in truth, might never see the light of day. It is not unreasonable to argue that it can all be connected. Aggrieved senior officials closely tied to the outgoing White House might have surreptitiously sought assistance from a “special relationship friend” in a foreign government to make a case that would humiliate and ultimately bring down an unlovable and abrasive incoming national-security advisor. Of course, one still needs to learn who those senior officials were and consider whether they should be allowed to walk away from what they have done.

          As for Hannigan, did the Trump White House discover what had occurred and did it back channel to British Prime Minister Theresa May demanding that someone’s head roll? Or did May learn of the maneuvering independently and respond appropriately? “

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          • SteveO says:

            https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2017/05/did_brennan_collude_with_foreign_spies_to_help_hillary.html

            “Could it be that Brennan himself is the leaker of classified information? There are reports suggesting he is and isn’t that what is going on in Washington these days — bogus investigations based on reports of collusion with the Russians and other shenanigans? Could that be any crazier than investigations triggered by the Steele dossier, a classic work of slanderous fiction? Two things we do know — that the only crime is the leaking of classified information to the newspapers to damage Donald Trump and that Brennan is wrong on who the Russians wanted to win.”

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            • Lurker2 says:

              I see good evidence that Brennan is indeed a leaker. I actually think he leaked that info in the Guardian article. It’s bad enough that FBI had direct hotlines to the press. CIA too? Clever to choose the British press, not the usual classified info receivers. Probably was done that way to further imply the source was British. But here’s what the article says about the source:

              “a source close to UK intelligence said”

              Brennan was close to UK intelligence, especially after receiving crap from Hannigan that was so crappy that they couldn’t use the normal method of conveyance and had to keep it a secret.

              “According to one account, GCHQ’s then head, Robert Hannigan, passed material in summer 2016 to the CIA chief, John Brennan. The matter was deemed so sensitive it was handled at “director level”. After an initially slow start, Brennan used GCHQ information and intelligence from other partners to launch a major inter-agency investigation”

              Handled via back channel. Hidden. And when the FBI didn’t leap on it, Brennan then made it look more legit. That’s how I’m reading this now that we know what we know here in 2018.

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              • Impatient says:

                In this case, I don’t think that Brennan leaked – he fabricated! There was no data behind those articles of collusion in the British press – total fabrication. Hannigan flew over, he and Brennan had dinner, and he flew home. Brennan said “I got it from the Brits” and this gave his fabrications legitimacy, like Fusion GPS feeding Sid Blumenthal’s fiction to Steele to give it legitimacy.

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              • steveO says:

                Chris Steele was close to UK intel

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        • Lurker2 says:

          and spoon fed it to Harry Reid that pressured Comey to act on it.

          Your comment made me gasp. Yes. That seems totally reasonable.

          It just gets worse and worse. The more we know, the more horrible the situation looks. A whole lot of people were involved in this attempt to ruin Trump with bogus “intelligence” from shady sources. Wow. This is waaaaaay worse than Watergate.

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  36. CNN_sucks says:

    Sessions wake up. Either resign or arrest all these bad actors.

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  37. So the investigation was started without tangible evidence….so what? Not to be a party-pooper, but what happens now? The media does not care; nor does the GOPe, nor do the Dems and obviously Mueller wants no part of it. Obviously Rosenstein has his new cuff links so he does not give a rat’s rectum. Where does it go from here? And if it does move faster than McTurtle, how long will it take? Never mind.

    AMERICA 1st – Forever

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    • steveO says:

      Await the IG report. All will be clear and criminal referrals will be forthcoming immediately thereafter. It’s needed to avoid perception of political bias. See McCabe.

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  38. jeans2nd says:

    From Brennan sanctimony [13:35]
    “Given the highly sensitive nature of what was an active counter-intelligence case [that means the FBI]…”
    Just FBI? Perhaps not.

    “In August 2017, Pompeo took direct command of the Counterintelligence Mission Center (at CIA), the department which helped to launch an investigation into possible links between Trump associates and Russian officials.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Pompeo#Committee_assignments
    Only counter-intel reports directly to Dir Pompeo.

    24 Aug 2017 WaPo – “Pompeo has attributed his direct supervision of the counterintelligence center to a desire to place a greater emphasis on preventing leaks and protecting classified secrets — core missions of the center that are also top priorities for Trump.”
    Exactly what Pomepo has been saying from the first day he took office.

    “People have to watch him (Pompeo),” an unnamed CIA official told The Post” gee, wonder who said that?
    and this
    —>>>”an FBI official serves as head of the center’s counterespionage unit.” my my my
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/at-cia-a-watchful-eye-on-mike-pompeo-the-presidents-ardent-ally/2017/08/24/18c1d716-7ed0-11e7-9d08-b79f191668ed_story.html?utm_term=.6de7eab79f52&noredirect=on

    Brennan himself told HPSCI where to find the originating intel.

    04:48 “I’m going to defer to current agency officials to be able to further provide to you information related to that, but my understanding is that this committee has access to the documents that we provided to the Bureau.”

    Does not HPSCI have oversight of CIA? Nunes has said several times they have whistleblowers talking.

    No one of Gowdy and Rooney’s experience would ask a question without knowing the answer. Nor allow Chair Nunes so to do.
    If the CIA has no intel from Five Eyes, yet there is intel, then from whence came the intel?
    CIA counter-intel team? Around this time is when Adm Rogers noticed the odd searches.
    wars, and rumors of wars…NSA…CIA…Wikileaks…
    Chair Nunes knows the answer, which, odds are, did not come from FBI/DOJ. Pompeo

    Further, which may be irrelevant –
    “the meeting that Donald Trump Jr. held in June with a Russian lawyer…Mueller can’t do anything on that without the agency (CIA, counter-intel).”
    ibid. WaPo article

    Reading through the Papadopolous charging doc https://www.justice.gov/file/1007346/download
    Pg. 4 Item 6 “On or about March 21, 2016, the Campaign told the Washington Post that defendant PAPADOPOLOUS was one of five named foreign policy advisors for the Campaign.”

    Item 8 “Following his March 24, 2016 meeting with the Professor and the Female Russian National, defendant PAPADOPOLOUS emailed the Campaign Supervisor and several members of the Campaign’s foreign policy team…”
    There are many more emails cited in the Mueller charging doc. The Papadopolous stuff all started March 2016.
    (Mueller obtained the emails from the Trump Campaign, who are cooperating, even though Mueller originally received the emails illegally).

    How else would Brennan follow Papadopolous other than electronically? The FBI was not involved in early 2016, except through their guy in CIA counter-intel, yet Brennan says more than once CIA was following circa March 2016. The rumored Manafort FISA had run out.
    Someone knows the source of the CIA EC. Brennan. Pompeo.

    Wikipedia made a point of mentioning that Pompeo was Tea Party. Thought the Tea Party was dead? lolol

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    • Mickturn says:

      One thing everyone must know, in relation to: “How else would Brennan follow Papadopolous other than electronically?”

      When doing forensics on any data it is necessary to have tools that put all the pieces together ‘Chronologically’ or by ‘key words’, for Libs, that means by time/date stamp or document creation/modify or time/date on emails in a trail or subject searches to derive patterns and other relationships of information.

      Given that tool driven deciphering of information one can easily derive the total trail of the information/email traffic and who it was sent to and by whom, by date/time or subject.

      This is very powerful in that it puts lots of disparate pieces together out of millions of items. You can then correlate each batch of information across many other sources (with similar tools). That is how it is done.
      Where am I going you might ask…well since the CIA and FBI (and NSA etc.) have these tools they can do months of work in minutes putting together a picture of what transpired.

      Most people have no idea of the power of the forensic tools that are used to analyze things. Suffice it to say, those that are looking at ‘electronic’ data can do this very rapidly. The excuses you hear that it will take months are simply LIES.

      This can also be used when coupling phone calls translated into text for searches like the above. Typically there is so much data they must have sophisticated tools to do the searches like I mention above…and don’t think these are ‘all the tools’ they have, this just scratches the surface.

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      • Mickturn says:

        Follow on to the above data analysis points….There is an old Australian case (1980’s) where phones were tapped, records made. The primary purpose was to track Mafia like drug sale interactions. From the phone records a map was made of all calls from suspected Mafia types, top to bottom. The criminals (and our enemies, foreign and domestic) typically think if each person only knows of one other in the organization they are not discoverable past one link…in the phone record analysis, the organization’s members placed calls to their next up/down in the chain…however when the person called then called their next up in the chain, now there are 3, and so on. Analysis of any form of date, emails, phone calls etc. What came out of all of it was a total organizational map from bottom to top, arrests followed etc…

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        • Mickturn says:

          This is typically why, when documents are provided, especially with ‘redaction’ they are printed. That makes it much more difficult to do any forensics.

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  39. Deplorable_Infidel says:

    Dan Bongino evaluates:

    April 23, 2018: Ep. 704 A Bombshell Interview You Must Hear

    https://www.bongino.com/april-23-2018-ep-704-a-bombshell-interview-you-must-hear/

    In this episode I address the multiple bombshells in Maria Bartiromo’s weekend interview with Devin Nunes about the Russia investigation. I also discuss the Left’s hooliganism and their attacks on a country singer and a conservative woman.

    News Picks:

    This is a must-see interview that questions the entire premise of the Russia investigation.
    Here’s video of my fiery debate with a Clinton acolyte and mouthpiece.
    The Southern Poverty Law Center blinks in response to a lawsuit.
    A major setback for Mitt Romney in Utah.
    This story is bigger than Kanye West.

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  40. Impatient says:

    Just ran accross this
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/03/david-cameron-should-reach-out-and-apologise-to-donald-trump-his/amp/

    No wonder the Brits were happy to throw Mr. Pappadoplis under the bus – he had publically called for David Cameron to apologise to Trump.
    It is no wonder that they went along with the “drunken” comments in a bar about the Russians having damaging stuff on Clinton – although I believe that story to be a creation of Brennan – Downer is now refusing to verify that it happened.

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