August 2nd, 2017 DOJ Letter From Rod Rosenstein To Special Counsel Mueller Outlining Investigative Authorization…

When reviewing new information against the backdrop of existing information it is important not to get so caught up in the weeds that you miss the obvious.  This is the important aspect to a new information release from Robert Mueller.

Overnight last night Special Counsel Robert Mueller released an attachment as part of a responsive court pleading.   The attachment was a previously unknown letter from Asst. Attorney General Rod Rosenstein to Robert Mueller outlining the specific authority of his investigative appointment.  The letter from Rosenstein to Mueller is dated August 2nd, 2017.

There are several elements to break down, and one of the best ways to review the information is to first ask “why”?

  • Question #1) Why did Asst. Attorney General Rod Rosenstein deliver a non-public outline of investigative authority to Mueller on August 2nd, 2017?
  • Question #2) Why would Robert Mueller be seeking a signed more specific outline of his investigative authority on August 2nd, 2017; a full three months after he was assigned the role of Special Counsel?
  • Question #3) Why would Robert Mueller need to redact the content of an official outline of his investigative instructions from the Asst. Attorney General?

First, it is important to put the Rod Rosenstein releases into context.

On Wednesday May 17th, 2017 Rosenstein announced the following:

Notice no-where in this public announcement does AAG Rosenstein mention President Donald Trump.

Deputy Attorney General Rod J. Rosenstein today announced the appointment of former Department of Justice official and FBI Director Robert S. Mueller III to serve as Special Counsel to oversee the previously-confirmed FBI investigation of Russian government efforts to influence the 2016 presidential election and related matters.

The “previously-confirmed FBI investigation … efforts” is apparently code-speak for the counterintelligence investigation of the Trump campaign confirmed by FBI Director James Comey on March 20th, 2017 to congress.

The simultaneous release of investigative intent then includes a more specific and formal outline, which does include Donald Trump:

(pdf link)

So there we have the three areas of direct authority:  ¹Links or coordination between the Russian Government and the campaign of Donald Trump.  ²Matters that may arise from the investigation of the Russian government and the campaign of Donald Trump. And ³other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4(a). [<- ie. ‘Jurisdiction‘]

So there’s the instructions to Robert Mueller and his team on May 17th, 2017.

Now, as we previously discussed: “Robert Mueller didn’t necessarily appoint or select a team of lawyers and investigators…. the previously assembled team of lawyers and investigators selected him.”  The key player in that assembly was FBI Chief-Legal-Counsel and personal confidant to Robert Mueller, James Baker. (pictured right)

Remember, the “small group”, career officials inside the DOJ and FBI needed to continue their group effort after the election.  Therefore they needed to stay assembled as a group; they needed to stay on task, to facilitate the original intent of their association.  The Special Counsel was merely a way, an approach, a tool for this specific team to continue their efforts after the 2016 presidential election, nothing more – nothing less.

The team already existed. The objectives already existed. The only thing they needed was a willfully-blind leader and an excuse to continue their ideological efforts. Robert Mueller became their selected willfully-blind leader because the small group already knew him and they knew they could manipulate/use him.

Their ideological association is why the same people behind Phase 1 (Clinton Exoneration ’15, ’16), and Phase 2 (opposition research, counterintelligence and surveillance against Trump ’15, ’16, ’17), became the same people in Phase 3, the post-election vast Russian-Trump Collusion Conspiracy; also known as “The Insurance Policy”.  In many ways Phase 3 was/is more of a continued opposition research endeavor, part of the “resistance” per se, with a good dose of self-preservation binding them all together.

Robert Mueller could technically shut down the official Special Counsel tomorrow and for the ‘small group’ nothing would change much. The ‘group’ shifts back out of government work and reconnects with Fusion GPS (or similar).  They inform their media allies to change the official name of their tasks from ‘investigation’ back to ‘opposition research’. Sans Mueller all group tasks remain consistent, and three days from now it’s just another Friday.

If it is a paradigm shift to understand that Mueller didn’t select his team, but rather the team selected him…. then a similar paradigm shift will be found in the following motive behind Robert Mueller requesting Rosenstein to outline his investigation on August 2nd, 2017:

Mueller wasn’t asking Rosenstein to expand the focus of the endeavor; team Mueller was asking Rosenstein to NARROW the focus of their investigation.

Why would Team Mueller be asked to narrow the focus?

Because Inspector General Michael Horowitz just informed him/them of his discovery of the conspiracy behind the DOJ and FBI plan against Donald Trump.

On July 20th, 2017 IG Horowitz gets the Page/Strzok text messages.  Horowitz informs Mueller there is evidence of a conspiracy evident within his team.  That had to be an ‘oh, shit’ moment for the “small group”; and for Robert Mueller.

The investigation was going on for more than two months and the team was already moving on Paul Manafort.  Quickly, the investigative team needs Rosenstein to narrow the investigation.  The last thing the Special Counsel team needed, was an open door to investigate corrupt officials within their own ideological ranks.  Lord knows where that would end-up.

On August 2nd, 2017, Rosenstein does exactly that.

Now, before getting to #3 (why the redacted memo from Mueller last night), and retaining the bigger picture, take a look at a few aspects that need to fall into place within this timeline.

FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe was was interviewed about his media leaks in May 2017.  He denied.  Notice what comes next… “a couple of months later” he was interviewed by IG Horowitz.  And he again denied.  Now think!  That conversation would be around July of 2017.  What happened right after/amid this period?  Answer: Horowitz gained the Peter Strzok and Lisa Page text messages.

  • •May 2017 McCabe denies leaking for WSJ story (to FBI).
  • •July 2017 McCabe denies again (to IG Horowitz).
  • •July 20th, 2017 Horowitz gets Strzok/Page text messages. Proving McCabe constructed the WSJ story and lied to FBI investigators and Inspector General.
  • •August 2017: After Horowitz gets the proof McCabe was lying – McCabe follows up on the two denials sayinghe may have allowed FBI officials to speak with the newspaper”.
  • •August 2017:  FBI re-interviews McCabe based on new admissions.
  • •November 29th 2017: One day before SC Mueller indicts Michael Flynn, IG Horowitz interviews McCabe again.  Apparently this time McCabe admitted to constructing the leak.

Apply Occam’s razor.

Lisa Page is likely also questioned about the Wall Street Journal article and she told the truth. However, now her story conflicts with Andrew McCabe.  So to prove her side of the story, Lisa Page provides the text messages July 20th, 2017 to investigators. That’s where the “Page was already disenfranchised with the SC Mueller assignment” and the “removed earlier” aspect comes from.

Andrew McCabe lied in May and July 2017. Lisa Page likely gave a statement that conflicted with McCabe and used the text messages to back up her side. That’s how IG Horowitz gained the original access to the Page/Strzok messages. The rest is history.

The ‘good guys’ inside the investigative FBI unit have a motive to be angry.

♦Think about it…. McCabe admits to lying to the FBI on November 29th, 2017.  On November 30th, Michael Flynn is forced to sign a sketchy guilty plea for *presumably* lying to the FBI.  On December 1st the media pushes the Flynn lying guilty plea.  On December 2nd *some entity* within the process hits back against the corrupt insiders (around McCabe) and begins blasting out information about Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, Bruce Ohr and Nellie Ohr…  That’s where most people began to take notice.

Additionally, think about the time-frame knowing IG Horowitz informed SC Mueller about Strzok and Page and the potential criminal conduct outlined within their text messages.

In between the time McCabe lied to the FBI (May ’17), and then lied to Horowitz (July ’17), and then attempted to clean up his lie (Aug ’17), and then McCabe’s November 29th re-interview with Horowitz…. Prosecutor John Huber was brought on board.

There’s obviously a history of White Hats and Black Hats inside the DOJ and FBI while the entire operation against Trump was taking place.  There’s White Hats -vs- Black Hats playing out inside the intelligence apparatus (Rogers -vs- Clapper/Brennan). In 2017 there’s White Hats and Black Hats inside dueling investigative units (Horowitz -vs- Mueller).  And with Huber added there’s now White Hats -vs- Black Hats as prosecutors.

So lets look at a few interpersonal and organizational dynamics for examples.  [Forgive my plain-speak].  Taking some cues from inside the text messages already reviewed:

♦DOJ Attorney assigned to the FBI effort, Lisa Page, was willing to go along with the plans in 2015/2016 because she’s ideologically aligned with the political objectives to aid Hillary Clinton.  However, after the election she ain’t stupid.  By late spring she can see the writing on the wall… the intended outcome ain’t working.  Nervous already, with McCabe lying about the media leaks in July, she’s had enough… she shoots down “Andy’s” lies and exits.

♦FBI Asst. Director in charge of counterintelligence, Bill Priestap, was already likely not comfy with the entire scheme, and his #2 Deputy FBI Counterintelligence Agent Peter Strzok was too far out-of-bounds.  Priestap likely never agreed to ‘Phase-3’.  He’s also rich with a well-off spouse and too much to lose.

♦FBI Chief Legal Counsel James Baker did his earnest best to support the operation through Phase #1, Phase #2 and helped set up Phase #3… but after he found out congress was going to subpoena him, the next day something happened and FBI Director Christopher Wray removed him.  The ‘something’ was likely Baker realizing Phase-3 wasn’t working, and began working toward self preservation.

♦FBI Agent Peter Strzok is just all around FUBAR.  He’s busted all over the place… ‘where do I sign’?  Halp.

♦Comey’s former Chief-of-Staff James Rybicki knew his goose was cooked as soon as he saw the Page/Strzok text messages surfacing in December 2017.  But his loyalty to his former boss, and the actual physical risk to life and limb precluded his ability to help.  He quit.

FBI Communications Director Michael Kortan was caught within the media leaks and also inside the spin machine from the Clinton investigation the ‘small group’ intentionally sunk and he sold as valid.  Kortan decides to give the team the last help he can and releases an unauthorized FBI media statement in January, slamming the Nunes memo and undermining the official FBI position.  It was his parting shot to attempt cover for the remaining crew.  A few days later he was resigned by Director Wray.

On the Main Justice side:

♦DOJ-NSD Deputy Bruce Ohr was in too deep.  Demoted twice in between a series of twelve, yes twelve, FBI investigative interviews… Obviously Bruce knew too much, and the collaboration/connection with his wife Nellie and Fusion GPS just put a massive target on his back.    Bruce Ohr and Nellie Ohr connect the activity from the DOJ (national security division) and FBI (counterintelligence division) together with Fusion GPS (Nellie’s 2016 employer, Glenn Simpson) and Christopher Steele (the recipient of the unwashed intelligence product).

Nellie and Bruce didn’t exactly have an option… no doubt that’s why all the FBI investigative interviews from Horowitz and Huber.  Tick.Tock on the IG report.

♦DOJ-NSD Deputy AAG David Laufman sat in on the Clinton investigations and was part of the collaborative effort to construct the fraudulent FISA application.   In his former position, Laufman would have been involved and hold knowledge of the FISA “Title-1” surveillance program initiated on target Carter Page and the “incidental” Trump campaign officials. Laufman would also have close contact with former Asst. Deputy Attorney Bruce Ohr; husband of Fusion GPS employee Nellie Ohr.  Laufman quit in February, 2018.

♦DOJ-NSD Asst. Attorney General John P. Carlin quit in October 2016 immediately after notifying the FISA court of the misuse of FISA(702)(16)(17) database search queries by contractors within the FBI and DOJ-NSD apparatus.  Carlin admitted misrepresentations to the FISA court and then immediate resigned.

♦DOJ-NSD Principle Deputy Asst. Attorney General Mary McCord replaced John Carlin in October 2016 and assisted Sally Yates in Phase-3 along with the Flynn scheme.  Mary McCord accompanied Yates to the White House.  Three things happened right before McCord resigned at the DOJ-NSD in April 2017.  First, Sally Yates was fired.  Second, the #2 re-authorization of the Page surveillance warrant occurred; and Third, IG Michael Horowitz gained oversight over the DOJ-NSD.

Sally Yates had blocked OIG oversight over the DOJ-NSD for the previous years.  In 2015 the OIG requested oversight and it was Sally Yates who responded with a lengthy 58 page legal explanation saying, essentially, ‘nope – not allowed.’ (PDF HERE) All of the DOJ is subject to oversight, except the NSD.  In April 2017 all of that changed.

Not coincidentally the first White Hat arrives at the DOJ-NSD leadership ranks when Dana Boente shows up, also in April 2017, from his prior position as U.S. AG for the Eastern District of Virginia.  Boente acted as interim Attorney General after Yates was removed. Boente left Main Justice in October 2017 and in January joined Christopher Wray at the FBI as Chief Legal Counsel to replace the removed James Baker.

OK, so that’s a long and rather exhaustive summary of the key inside-players without going directly into the White House (Obama), CIA (Brennan) and ODNI (Clapper) roles.

Why is this pertinent to Robert Mueller and the August 2nd, 2017 request to Rod Rosenstein for a clarification/narrowing of investigative authority?

Because Mueller’s team, the small group of political officials and lawyers, know all of these people inside the DOJ apparatus.  These are their peers, their comrades in ideology… this is their crew and social circle.  The last thing their legal endeavors need is to be put in a position of intel or information about their brethren.

And for Team-Leader Robert Mueller, against the back-drop of this information; and with IG Horowitz giving him details about Page/Strzok messages; there’s a strong motive to ask for a signed letter from Rosenstein prior to continuing to investigate the President of the United States knowing President Donald Trump was also a target of this plan – and these details were going to surface at some point.

Lastly, and specifically about Rod Rosenstein, perhaps at a certain point in the spring and early summer 2017 he might have thought there was a substantive way for the assembly to carry out their plan.  Perhaps he even believed the popular leftist narrative and thought there might be something to these ‘Trump-Russia-Collusion’ claims.  Perhaps that’s why he directed the Muller investigative mandate in May 2017 to the exclusivity of President Donald Trump with no mention of any other campaign (Hillary Clinton) contact with Russian entities.

However, by August 2017 with full information coming from IG Horowitz about the likelihood of criminal conduct by FBI and DOJ officials; at the time Rosenstein wrote the more carefully detailed outline; he had to know the investigation into Trump was heading no-where.

 

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929 Responses to August 2nd, 2017 DOJ Letter From Rod Rosenstein To Special Counsel Mueller Outlining Investigative Authorization…

  1. pnj01 says:

    We now know that POTUS is NOT a target. When that was not clear there may have been some reason for POTUS considering the option of answering Mueller’s questions (He and Mueller were adversaries and Mueller needed to hear his side).

    Now that Mueller has confessed that his year +long investigation has still NOT developed evidence against POTUS sufficient to name him a target, the President would be well within his prerogatives as Chief Magistrate of the United States of America to give short shrift to the value of wasting a moment more of his time on this wild goose chase. Even if Mueller (who is just the subordinate of a subordinate of one of his many subodrdinates) would like to resolve some questions through interrogation of the President, tehPresident can decide that he has better things to do with his time. He could direct his subordinates to get on with preparation of a report without his input and that he would take a look at any remaining issues after seeing the current status of the investigation. After all, he is NOT a target and is now just the Chief Executive of the United States.

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    • Concerned Virginian says:

      pnj01
      Washington Post article on Mueller’s statement to President Trump’s attorneys states that the President is not a criminal target AT THIS POINT.
      In addition, the article states that Mueller made it clear to the President’s attorneys that Mueller is preparing a report on President Trump’s actions WHILE IN OFFICE and potential OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.
      So, YES, President Trump WAS, IS, and REMAINS the target of Mueller, the Black Hat actors, and the UniParty. The goal is to remove him from office or at the least. to hamstring the entire rest of his time in office so the UniParty (God forbid, back in control after the 2018 elections) can destroy the President’s MAGA agenda.

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      • itrollpalmer says:

        Mueller aint gonna come down with an obstruction charge without an underlying crime. Thats embarrassing. Several Repubs have come out and said that he better not try it It wont fly. Considering Trump never fired Sessions, Rosey, Mueller, any members of his team, or reduced his budget. He never blocked any witness from coooperating and never handed out pardons. The Comey firing will be explained- “I fired him because of the Russia investigation. I felt that he was not handling it properly or moving fast enough. He was show boating and dragging this out. I knew all along that if I fired him an SC could be appointed. It was worth it. And you did a great job Bob”.

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        • G. Alistar says:

          I think rather he should say, “I fired Comey because I lost trust in his abilities.” Nothing more, nothing less. Article 2, US Constitution. Anything else is fluff and will be twisted.

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      • pnj01 says:

        I am not making this stuff up. If we are to believe the WaPo, Mueller said Trump was NOT a target. And we all know that Robert Mueller is the Incarnation of Vishnu or, at least, somebody equally holy. That is Mueller’s admission and we ought to hold him to it.

        If Trump takes the position I sketched out and Mueller then says: “I didn’t mean it. You actually are a target,” then we’ll have a basis to note that Mueller may not be as non-partisan as he claims. Nothing commits POTUS ever to testify but why not hoist Mueller on his prosecutorial petard?

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        • Kermit says:

          I believe, a key aspect of “…he is continuing to investigate the president but does not consider him a criminal target at this point…” are the words, “criminal target” emphasis on Criminal. As, from an understanding, Collusion is not a crime and from what I have read, The President, being the “Head Honcho” can’t be charged with Obstruction for firing Comey. Everyone keeps leaving the “Criminal” part out whereas that is, to me, key.

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        • cali says:

          @pnj01: Mueller is still targeting the president and the various leaks made that clear as they state that Mueller will push obstruction of justice charges that would end in preachment.
          Isn’t that what they all were gunning for from the start?
          Rosenstein issued this additional memo to his Mueller as they overreached in Manafort case where Mueller/Weismann raided his home in the early morning hours with guns drawn picking the locks of Manafort’s hoe.
          The problem is that that raided Manafort two weeks BEFORE Rosenstein issued Mueller the additional narrowed memo which Mueller provided to the court. Manafort is challenging Mueller.

          The Q-team posted on the 8chan board that this info was not suppose to leak. He has been mentioning Rosenstein a number of times. Yesterday was Rosenstein big reveal being a black hat always loyal to his old friend Mueller.
          The coup against the president is not over by a long shot and at this point the president’s legal team should not trust Mueller as he still wants to talk to the president with the intent of issuing a report. Ask yourself what report and why the need to insist on speaking with the president if he indeed is not under investigation. This stinks!

          In the meantime McCabe’s wife has written an op-ed yesterday explaining the innocence of her husband and president’s Trump cause of heart aches in that family. She insists that McCabe did not involve himself in her campaign and blah blah blah it went. She’s a weasel like her husband. The left is eating up.

          The Q-team also told us that the president will be up all night. they told us that Hussein was involved with rogue actors in the UK planning an assassination during Trump’s visit to the UK ergo president Trump cancelling his trip. The Q-team told us that these rogue actors failed and the plot discovered.
          Must be the same MI6 conspirators who poisoned the Russian spy who wanted to testify that he worked directly with Steele’s consultant and had information how the MI6, Steele and GPS worked together to frame president Trump and assisting in the coup by Obama, Brennan, Hillary et al during and after the election. He was silenced by the MI6 yet Russia is blamed. There is much more but a subject for another day as it does not belong on this thread.

          Sundance – thank you!

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        • nbkilgore says:

          Theory;

          TO: POTUS DJT
          NSA ADM. Rogers
          DOJ AG Sessions

          FR: Allied Country Intellligence
          SUB: TS INV.
          Date: 02/2017

          During the course of some fact finding special on going investigations, our Intel unit uncovered verifiable facts regarding several actors both former and current from the highest branches of your government and have shown these facts for eyes only viewing by your trusted designee. It is therefore agreed that an assembled team from your Intel/DOJ will be joining our Intel investigative team for collection and control of evidence for adjudication in each respective country. Much of the investigation has been ongoing for some time now and the evidence collected will be made available to the classified team under the direction of agreed designee and understand the need for expediting but thorough investigation.

          Allied Country CIC

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      • bookman says:

        Washington Post ?… HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

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      • ATheoK says:

        WashPo and NYT, previously world class news publishers, nowe reduced to National Enquirer bottom feeder rumor chasers.

        Beware those “Obstruction of Justice” faux words. Those words have been bandied about since Trump’s first informational conference with Comey.

        That claim has been progressive leftist fantasy since the election.
        No matter how much the black hats on the investigative team want to twist a law to overcome a President’s assigned Constitutional responsibilities.

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    • dayallaxeded says:

      I think they always say “Mr. X is not a target of our criminal investigation/prosecution at this time.” while they’re investigating everyone to see who they can squeeze to lie in support of targeting “Mr. X.” Imperial FedGov is the worst!

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      • pnj01 says:

        So you’re saying that the statement “you’re not a target” means nothing? I doubt Mueller would try to take such a flip position. He is talking to the President of the United States about a very serious issue (whether the Special Counsel has enough evidence to target the President even after a year plus in which he and Comey had been trying to nail the President without success). Were I the President, I would accord Mueller no regard if he acts in such a high handed way. It’s kinda like saying, that a prosecutor can BS a judge. Even a resist judge would know that is wrong.

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        • Jim in TN says:

          Didn’t lying Comey make similar statements?

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          • Tonawanda says:

            Yes he did, and it turned out to be so misleading as to be a lie.

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          • Newhere says:

            Exactly! They’ve been playing this game the whole time.

            “There is no evidence at this time that Mr. X is a vampire that feasts on small children and other innocents.”

            Hmm, what, suppose, is the intended takeaway? And oh yeah too, don’t think of an elephant.

            It’s basically what Comey said last year, and months later a Special Counsel was appointed for the stated purpose of investigating “Russian interference in the 2016 election” (no specified crime by anyone) and now a year later we’ve listened to breathless speculation about the president’s imagined crimes, and the Special Counsel has amassed an army in hot pursuit of finding something, anything.

            And remember Sundance’s column re Susan Rice’s CYA email on her way out the door? Forgive me if I can’t state it as eloquently — but one of his points, as I recall, was that after the election, the WH and intelligence community had to figure out how to keep things going — to spy on the Trump transition now that they technically were supposed to be briefing Trump, and the IC was about to be reporting and taking orders from Trump. (Remember “keep me posted on any information that would require withholding from the president elect sensitive information pertaining to Russia”?)

            So I believe SD’s speculated that the plan they cooked up for post-election, pre-inauguration, was to tell the president elect *just enough* — Sir, there’s a counterintelligence investigation re Russia and the election, and oh, gee, whiz, there’s this “intelligence dossier” floating out there and so we think you should know about it, but don’t worry, it’s all rumors and YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, ARE NOT THE TARGET OF THE INVESTIGATION.

            That way they would always have plausible deniability that they were “keeping the president elect fully briefed” without telling him the sketchy things they actually were up to. Meanwhile, they planted suggestive leaks to get the media speculating feverishly — is the president being investigated? — and it wasn’t until Mar. 2017 that the matter finally was set straight, when Comey testified and casually answered NO, after answering for months “I can’t answer that in an open setting.” Of course, by the time he stated the simple answer the mission had been accomplished: they’d manage to whip up a pervasive narrative that something nefarious was swirling around the president, foaming the runway for what we all know was coming next.

            So, no, not inclined to think it’s a good thing when we’re told the president is not a target. It’s part of the game they’ve played the whole time to keep the plan rolling, despite any reasonable, good faith basis or point. The goal is impeachment. There’s no sign whatsoever that any part of it is slowing down or relenting.

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        • dayallaxeded says:

          I’m saying FIB and DOinJ cannot be trusted and while those “buzz words” have some specific legal significance, so should not be meaningless, coming from Mulehead’s and all the other deep stinkers’ mouths, the words aren’t just meaningless, they’re probably outright lies. BTW, if memory serves, a legal significance of stating that a person is not a target of criminal investigation is that they do not have to provide Miranda warnings and the individual may not have the right to have an attorney present for interviews. FIB and DOinJ are bad. Mkay?
          http://gph.is/2bLLJCG

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        • Amy1212 says:

          “you’re not a target” at this point means that you could be a target in the future. It is attorney code speak to get someone to sit down for a chat. PDJT knows better than to trust a swamp dweller. There is NO REASON for PDJT to speak to Mueller. He will not offer the same pre-clearance letter that Killery rec’d.

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        • pnjo1: I don’t believe anyone is saying that “you’re not a target” is without meaning. I believe the nuance missed is “you are not a target for CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION AT THIS TIME”. Leaves a pretty darn big door open. I agree it seems like an over nuanced statement to say to POTUS but he is a lawyer and nuance and interpretation is how they tried (trying) to hang Flynn.

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          • pnj01 says:

            I maintain it was a critical admission for Mueller to acknowledge that Trump was not a target. The World has allowed Mueller to go on for a very long time and YET: he is admitting that he STILL has no evidence sufficient even to “target” Trump, much less indict him. So why should Trump give him the time of day going forward? So his subordinate’s subordinate’s subordinate can put together a bureaucrat’s report? Trump knew all along that there was not enough evidence to target him. Yet he allowed the wild goose chase to continue. He is still allowing it to continue, but he does not need to waste his time while Mueller wastes his.

            Should Mueller develop evidence that requires America’s Chief Magistrate to look at the question again, Mueller can put together a memo to POTUS at least explaining that he has now changed his mind and has targeted POTUS. My first question to Mueller at that point would be: what is your basis beyond pique?

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          • G. Alistar says:

            Isn’t the 90 day extension requested by Mueller for Flynn’s charges about up? Perhaps this date will coincide with the Horowitz report being released???

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    • ezpz2 says:

      POTUS not a target???

      The entire raison d’être for SC Mueller is to (try to) take down a constitutionally elected president by any means necessary.

      Period!

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      • pnj01 says:

        WRONG. Mueller has told POTUS he is not a target. PERIOD!

        Trump ought to take Mueller at his word and conclude that Mueller is just spinning his wheel. As POTUS, Trump need not join Mueller in spinning class.

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        • Sandra-VA says:

          No, not “PERIOD”, “at this time”. Vastly different. What Mueller is saying is that President Trump is not a criminal target at this time… meaning that there is possibility that that could change.

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          • pnj01 says:

            If wishes were horses, beggars WOULD be kings. We, though, are dealing with Reality (a Year’s Plus worth of hard investigation STILL has turned up nothing). In all events, every present tense statement includes within it a limitation to the present. PERIOD.

            So, if Mueller does develop some info in the future that leads him to change his mind on whether Trump is a “target,” he can explain that to his boss’s boss’s boss (a/k/a THE POTUS), who can then decide whether he wants to get involved in what clearly is “at this point” a wild goose chase in light of the new evidence.

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            • Leonard Lane says:

              pnj01. Please do not believe anything that Mueller or anyone in FBI or DOJ says. We have seen over the last 2 years or so how crooked and lying most of them are. Sundance has just indicted Rosenstein and his comments are measured and truthful.
              AG Sessions might be the only exception.

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              • pnj01 says:

                I don’t believe Mueller but I would hold him to anything he said if it suited the US’s interests. Accepting his assertion that Trump is not a target takes the sting out of Trump’s not answering questions. If Trump is not a target, Mueller is just working for him in his execution of his duties as CHIEF Law Enforcement Officer of the USA. If Trump determines that wasting his time (and Mueller’s) going through a GJ interview does not advance the interests of the US, he can simply decline to participate and advise the SC that pursuit of a subpoena is NOT in the US’s interests. Mueller is not the embodiment of the decision-making power of the Executive Branch; TRUMP IS..

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              • gueppebarre says:

                Agree, LL. You lying to FBI – crime. FBI lying to you – standard operating procedure.
                No one in the FBI is to be trusted – PERIOD.

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                • dayallaxeded says:

                  We call it FIB ’round here for that very reason! And it’s DOinJ, ’cause they only work for “just us” not justice.

                  I knew it would take a good while for JBS to get any kind of control over the horribly politicized and degenerated DOinJ. I admit to impatience and frustration, but remain very hopeful that I can soon refer to “Sessions’ DOJ” with respect, rather than the disgust it has mostly generated for the last 50+ years.

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          • NOT one person has PERSONALLY heard a WORD from MUELLER, so to believe MUELLER said President Trump is NOT a Criminal Target at this time, is like believing the LIES CNN SPEWS! Until Mueller is on National TV speaking to the people of this Country I refuse to believe anything the Lying Democrats and their Media says. There is NO Offical letter with Mueller’s signature on it that says that President Trump isn’t a target of Criminal matters. Mueller has NOT made any Public Announcement so why are people believing what the LYING MEDIA tells them to believe?

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        • ezpz2 says:

          They always tell the subjects that they’re not targets in order to get them (subjects) to let their guards down so that they may potentially fall into a process trap like perjury or obstruction.

          Basic Prosecution 101.

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          • pnj01 says:

            Basic Defense 101: when a prosecutor goes on the record that one is NOT a target, run with it.

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            • Exfiltration of Wealth says:

              Hey, pnj…………you know what they call people who believe it when they are told by a prosecutor that they are not a “target” of an investigation?

              INMATES.

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              • pnj01 says:

                Only if they decide at that point to talk to the prosecutor.

                If you had read my posts, you would have learned that I believe Mueller’s statement provides Trump with a great reason NOT to talk to Mueller. Re-read my post and learn.

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            • Electra says:

              Here is an instructive (although hostile) discussion of the meaning of witness, subject and target. http://dailycaller.com/2018/04/04/jeffrey-toobin-mueller-investigation/

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              • pnj01 says:

                I am aware of the difference. Mueller has had plenty of time to develop a sufficiency of evidence to call Trump a target or not. He has not and Trump ought to take that as proof that his testimony is not necessary to dissuade Mueller. Trump is the chief law enforcement officer of the United States, but at the same time he is also the Commander in Chief, etc. He can decide whether his time is better invested in helping a subordinate’s subordinate’s subordinate to write a report. Should he decide his time better spent getting ready to deal with the NoKos, that is his prerogative as the Republic’s Chief Magistrate.

                Should Mueller decide he has found enough to target Trump, it will then be time enough for the President to undo Mueller’s suspicions if he is so inclined to do so. Mueller, though, is admitting that right now he lacks a sufficiency of evidence to deem POTUS a target.

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                • pnjo1: There maybe some arguing “passed” each other. I don’t think POTUS should “interview” with Mueller even IF the SC thinks he has grounds. I agree that his, the SC’s, admission that POTUS is not a target of criminal investigation at this time just provides good political cover for refusing to do so, even though I don’t think it’s necessary.

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            • When was he on Record? I have seen NO signed Letter or statement from Mueller or heard him on TV saying these things out of his own mouth? This is just the LYING MEDIA again!

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        • Amy1212 says:

          Mueller has not been forthcoming He didn’t release the new RR memo until Manafort filed suit in DC to allege Mueller exceeded his SC authority. Why wasn’t that little gem released earlier? Can’t wait to read the unredacted version.

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          • Electra says:

            Yes, I wonder if Horowitz has already seen the letter. If not, Rosenstein may try to argue that it had nothing to do with the IG investigation. That could get interesting.

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            • G. Combs says:

              “… Rosenstein may try to argue that it had nothing to do with the IG investigation…”

              Good luck with that! ONLY AG Sessions can tell IG Horowitz what he can not look at.

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        • 196ski says:

          There are no “PERIODS” when it comes to Mueller and his team, period.

          Mueller can say anything when it comes to these statements. “Mr. President, you are not a target at this time. Today Mr. President you are a target.”

          And what is going to be the response if Mueller does target the President?
          What is the media going to do? Are they going to remind us that one time Mueller said he wasn’t a target? Or are they going to forget that and concentrate exclusively on what ever Trump may or may not have done? They will effectively neuter the President and his remaining term.

          I believe Trump has committed no crime. I also do not trust Mueller based on his history of manipulation, his close ties to Comey and his roots in the swamp.

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          • pnj01 says:

            Mueller is not a king. he must act as the Attorney for the USA within the confines of his appointment. If Mueller changes his statement, Trump can demand that Mueller explain the reasons for his change of mind. If Mueller refuses to explain what has changed so that Trump is now a target, Trump should direct Sessions to haul Mueller into a Grand Jury to get answers.

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          • Apollo says:

            The only “period” comes when his investigation is finally closed–whether that’s by him or for him.

            I mean come on, the guy’s statement even included the ultimate weasel-phrase: “at this time”! This is nothing to hang our hats on, until Mueller is DONE and the Special Counsel’s office is CLOSED. Unfortunately.

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        • NOT one person has PERSONALLY heard a WORD from MUELLER, so to believe MUELLER said President Trump is NOT a Criminal Target at this time, is like believing the LIES CNN SPEWS! Until Mueller is on National TV speaking to the people of this Country I refuse to believe anything the Lying Democrats and their Media says. There is NO Offical letter with Mueller’s signature on it that says that President Trump isn’t a target of Criminal matters. Mueller has NOT made any Public Announcement so why are people believing what the LYING MEDIA tells them to believe?

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      • Let’s face it. Mueller is completely out of control. SD is giving us the best facts and analysis in the entire blogosphere /media and every day it seems like there’s some new outrageous behavior from this creep who thinks he has more power than God. Check out this article from the Daily Mail:
        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5579671/Mueller-probe-raids-oligarchs-private-jet.html

        Looks like Mueller now feels that as part of his investigation he can hijack international travelers and private jets to see if by chance they happened to donate any money to President Trump. What’s next? Are we going to have an international incident when Mueller decides to invade Russia to see if he can find any evidence of collusion?

        In my humble opinion, it is long past time for someone to take down this certifiable maniac before he does anymore damage. Just the stuff that SD has uncovered should be more than enough to put Mueller in a more “defensive” posture.

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        • cozette says:

          Q has been incredibly accurate since first posting on October 28th of last year. Those of us who followed him knew about the shake up in SA, that NK would end peacefully, that FB and then the rest of social media are going down (before it happened) and he always said to TRUST Sessions and Wray which proved to be very good advice. Recently he indicated that Rosenstein was going to be on the hot seat in April. Intriguingly, the only reference to Mueller was made last year when he emphasized that Mueller is a Marine, that POTUS is surrounded and protected by Marines and that Mueller being a Marine mattered. Based on that info plus the fact that POTUS met with Mueller twice, the last time the day before he was appointed SC under the cover of interviewing to replace Comey as head of the FBI which was ludricrous since Mueller was legally barred from serving in that position) I’m going to just sit back and enjoy the show while keeping everyone fighting this war against EVIL in my prayers.

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    • TheWanderingStar says:

      Just some DOJ definitions:

      All individuals coming into the orbit of the federal prosecutor and grand jury fall into one of three categories: witness, subject or target. It is crucial to understand your status in a federal investigation to make the right decisions.

      • Witness: Being a witness in a case involving the FBI, Secret Service, IRS or other Federal Agency does not necessarily mean that you observed or saw a crime happen. You may have information that law enforcement believes might be relevant in a criminal investigation to help prove either the guilt or the innocence of another individual or business. Although you may only be a witness, it’s critical to recognize that if you speak to Federal law enforcement your words are not protected without a proffer agreement and should you make a misrepresentation, you can be charged with the crimes of Lying to a Federal Agent[1] and Obstruction of Justice, each of which is punishable by as much as five years in a Federal penitentiary

      • Subject of an Investigation: The term “subject of an investigation” has a particular meaning within the United States Department of Justice (DOJ). According to the DOJ Handbook[2], a “subject” is: “a person whose conduct is within the scope of a Grand Jury’s investigation.” A subject is somewhere between a target and a witness. A subject has engaged in conduct that may look suspicious or unethical, but the prosecutor isn’t certain that a provable crime has been committed and wants to do more investigating in order to be sure.

      • Target: The term “target of an investigation” is also specifically defined by the DOJ. A person is a target where the prosecutor or Grand Jury has substantial evidence linking him to the commission of a crime. Designation as a target provides a clear warning of a person’s criminal exposure.

      Even though your status as a witness, subject or target may be important in guiding your strategy during a particular phase of a federal white collar crime investigation, the key thing to remember about these categories is that they are ultimately meaningless and offer you no protection. Why? Because even if you’re currently a witness or subject, there’s no guarantee that your status will remain unchanged.

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      • pnj01 says:

        But the President has the right to take Mueller at his word. His word is: “Mr President, I don’t have substantial evidence linking you to the commission of a crime.” Knowing that, why would a busy POTUS waste any time helping his subordinate Sessions’s subordinate Rosenstein’s subordinate Mueller resolve factual issues so Mueller can write a report which will not even link POTUS to the commission of a crime by Mueller’s own admission? POTUS has a lot on his plate and helping Mueller write a report must be pretty far down in the pile. Trump does not serve at the pleasure of Mueller but vice-versa, after all.

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        • dayallaxeded says:

          pnj01, you’ve repeated this same point many times–we understand your idea, but it doesn’t account for the greater political and legal complexities of this situation. The political consequences of any action by VSGPDJT against Mulehead or Rosie the Grifter are highly significant. If they weren’t, VSGPDJT would’ve already fired their seditious azzes.

          Nor are you recognizing how outrageously ruthless, crooked, and manipulative FIB and especially Mulehead are. Mulehead is the true ultra-mega-FIBer–Comey was barely a patch on him. Mulehead’s record shows he’ll do anything–abuse any right, break any law, probably already sold his soul and that of his entire family, neighbors, and co-workers to get a conviction. Any conviction. He could care less about right/wrong, legal/illegal, as long as he gets a scalp.

          I take little comfort in him being an ex-Marine. To be clear, most Marines are Semper Fi–always Marines. But some, notably some who have gone into fedgov, quickly become ex-Marines. I hope Mulehead has fooled me and is really Semper Fi; but I wouldn’t make any decisions affecting my legal standing or liberty based on that hope, “at this time.”

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      • dayallaxeded says:

        The fact that the statement (whether from Mulehead or not) only says “not a target at this time” tends to suggest that VSGPDJT is, then, either a subject or witness and a potential target “at a later time.” The utter insanity/illegality of Mulehead’s SC tenure needs to be brought to a close by them that started it. Pull the plug on “Chucky, Esq.”

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    • formerdem says:

      been thinking about the trap i would set if i were mueller. what i’d do is put the president into a bind so that he had to say something implicitly harmful about a supporter. then i’d madden the supporter to turn him against the prez and betray him and lie.

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      • singingsoul says:

        What gets me is that the dirty cop Mueller and his cabal are being paid by us the tx payers. In the end someone should pay maybe Rosenstein for being a slimy scheister lawyer .

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        • cozette says:

          To create an effective honey pot to attract and monitor the Rats while diverting the media and public from the real investigations required that the SC be convincingly dirty and indebted to the Swamp. Mueller fit that bill perfectly.

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      • Chewbarkah says:

        I think he’s already run that game on Flynn and Manafort (and possibly Page and Papadolous though those two are suspect of being swamp plants from the start). Trump has to turn a cold shoulder to all these guys, making him look disloyal. If he does anything to help them, the OBSTRUCTION! card comes out.

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  2. phoenixRising says:

    Uranium One for Dummies

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  3. itrollpalmer says:

    Is it possible Robert Mueller is a white hat. Rosey is the black hat. The private meeting with Trump always intrigued me. Mueller has taken down some pretty dirty characters in Manafort, Gates, and Flynn. They are the swamp. I dont buy the Flynn propaganda. He was into some pretty dirty lobbying and an alleged kidnap plot. Ask Adm Wolsey about that deal. That is why he pleaded guilty on the lying charge. Dirty lobbying with scummy characters. Lobbyists like Manafort, Gates, and Podesta ARE the swamp. I aint drinking the Flynn koolaid. AS for Mueller, if you were a white hat, isnt this how you would play your cards???
    1- You round up all the anti-Trump lawyers that YOU can control and keep under your thumb..
    2- Those lawyers and even their firms may be blocked from respresenting the FBI traitors
    3- You do any exhaustive examination and distract the media from the FBI treason investigation.
    4- You make sure that no one touches Horowitz or knows what he is doing- .
    5- You have enough on Podesta, but you wait. If you indict Podesta the MSM and the Dems will know what you are up to. So you wait. No need to rush or tip your hand.
    6- You prevent runaway partisan prosecutors from going into area that are off limits- finances, taxes, porn stars.
    7- You drop a report that clears Trump of collusion and obstruction.
    8- Not a single member of the MSM or Dems can criticize you or your investigation after they tossed your salad for a year.
    9 The ball gets handed off to Huber/Horowitcz
    10- Real indictments and pleas deals come down

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    • jnr2d2 says:

      Agree, see my response down below, Except Rosenstein is a white hat.

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    • dayallaxeded says:

      Obviously, I could be wrong and time may tell, but I don’t see any way that Mulehead could be a white or even light gray hat. It chafes me that SD keeps putting Alec Guinness/Lt. Col. Nicholson from “Bridge on the River Kwaii” up as a simile to Mulehead. Mulehead can wish, while he roasts in hell, that he had .1% of the integrity that character shows in the movie.

      Sure, he goes off in a wholly wrong, treasonous direction, but he does it with integrity and for the honor of his men. He is blinded to his treason until his heroic epiphany and end. Mulehead and all the deep stinkers are just a bunch of bought-off crooks and bagmen with no integrity or honor of any kind. It will be a great pleasure to see them scurrying around, eating their own, attempting to get a deal, when VSGPDJT and AG Sessions come down on them.

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    • gda says:

      Mueller has taken down some pretty dirty characters in M…, G…., and Flynn.

      Flynn was a “pretty dirty character”?

      Perhaps your fingers slipped there?

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      • Rich says:

        Flynn did nothing wrong. Please educate yourself Itroll. Or does your name describe your actions?

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      • G. Alistar says:

        To date I’m not seeing that Mueller did much taking down of anyone. Flynn case is open, Manafort, open; the $ 20K, 30 days in jail fine earlier this week (really? it’s budget dust) and a bunch of charges against Russians that won’t be prosecuted. I’d say Mueller to date, has been a Big, Fat “nothing burger.” Considering he has 25 high paid DC lawyers working for him for almost a year, Barney Fife could have done more even IF Andy did not give him a bullet.

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    • Firefly says:

      Mueller seems to be getting things in writing authorizing whatever he does. That doesn’t make Mueller a totally white hat necessarily but he is doing what he’s authorized in writing by the DOJ.

      Deven Nunes requested the EC origination letter on the SC in Aug 2017 and still hasn’t received. Today Nunes threatened to file suit. The Wray and Rosenstein seem to be withholding docs. Let’s see if AG Sessions tells them to release it.

      From what Jack Prosebiec and Laurence Tribe twittered re latest Mueller tidbit is that the DOJ directed Mueller he can’t indict PTrump directly. Mueller has been directed to submit a report to the DOJ and they then decide what to do. Let’s see what Judge Sullivan finds misconduct in Flynn’s case regarding whether exculpatory evidence was handed over properly.

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    • James says:

      IMHO. …. the meeting knew or had with Trump the day before he was appointed special counsel always intrigued me especially since he’d already been FBI director twice and never believed that he was interviewing for the director position it crossed my mind many times that perhaps is a white hat however a narrowing the scope of the investigation on August 2nd letter to Rosenstein it would indicate to me that he’s trying to avoid the investigating getting out of control and looking at all the bad players thoughts?

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    • Helz says:

      “5- You have enough on Podesta, but you wait. If you indict Podesta the MSM and the Dems will know what you are up to. So you wait. No need to rush or tip your hand.”

      Maybe Podesta is the redacted part of the Rosenstein memo?

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    • cozette says:

      Itrollpalmer While I agree with much of what you say I believe you are waaaaaay off in your assessment of General Flynn who I have researched for years. General Flynn is an old school patriot imho who has proven that by his actions and sacrifices time and time again. Woolsey is a Swampy CIA guy. I take everything he says with a huuuuuuge grain of salt. It seems YOU have slurped the MSM propoganda Koolaide about Flynn. Dirty lobbying? Lol. Kidnapping? The people who peddle this are the same liars who demonize President Trump and theyre motivated by the same animus. Anyway, Q indicates Flynn will be cleared soon. Thank God.

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  4. John Q Public says:

    “Notice no-where in this public announcement does AAG Rosenstein mention President Donald Trump.”

    Are you delusional? The “chain of command” which they are attempt to isolate the investigation from is the one that ends in Donald Trump! Not because they believe he’s the victim, but because they believe he benefited. This is so obvious only a blind mind would deny it!

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    • alligatriot says:

      JohnQPublic, I don’t understand your post. The entire lengthy article (indeed the past year and half of analysis about this subject) discusses the reasons for assigning a special counsel, which includes what you indicate in your second paragraph.

      Sundance’s statement you quote in your post is accurate. The public announcement did not mention President Trump by name. The rest of the post is very explanatory.

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  5. NavyDoc says:

    This is how a sting works folks. Rosy goes out to dinner with the silent executioner himself. Rosy thinks everything is cool. He gives Mueller a narrower focus on Trump excluding Hillary et. al.
    Hillary and company think they are off the hook. Rosy has a false sense of security thinking he pulled off the big one. In the meantime, our silent executioner, Jeff Sessions, has someone behind the curtain doing all the heavy lifting as to investigating Rosy and the rest of the swamp creatures.
    When the time comes the trap is sprung and down come Mueller, Rosy and the rest of the swamp creatures. Life is good.

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    • fanbeav says:

      I hope you are right. I was furious when I saw that picture of them at dinner!

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      • G. Combs says:

        ” I was furious when I saw that picture of them at dinner!”

        Perhaps this older comment might help.

        rashomon says:
        March 30, 2018 at 12:14 am
        Sessions has an overwhelming job to do combating the destruction that has taken place, not only over the last eight years, but since the G.H.W Bush administration when the NWO kicked off its campaign with Bush’s speech acknowledging the plan. Control over the DOJ has been critical to their march toward its goal of international law far removed from the individual rights so valiantly fought for by our American ancestors.

        I have family in Alabama who had to face the wrath of Jeff Sessions. They were in the wrong and rightly judged, but totally bamboozled by the gentleman as he appeared so benign. Ha! My Northern relatives who are attorneys still laugh about it.
        I doubt if he has changed his stripes, so personally I am being patient.

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    • Summer says:

      Do you have a shred of evidence to support your claim or is your scenario based on faith and Twitter prophecy? Just curious.

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    • dayallaxeded says:

      From your keyboard to God’s big, beautiful monitor! Would love to see Mulehead et al. in pink jumpsuits in a “tent city” jail, even though they really belong in front of a firing squad, on gallows, or at least under the jail.

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      • singingsoul says:

        From history I have read that good people can be so mind bend that their ideology clouds all ethics. The means justify the end.
        I think we have that with Mueller Rosenstein and all the others who engaged in lawless behavior. Reality will hit when they are being charged .

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  6. kinthenorthwest says:

    Interesting Hmm
    Lawyer Said Rosenstein Gave Mueller “Secret Authorization” To Target Manafort Behind Sessions’ Back
    https://conservativedailypost.com/lawyer-said-rosenstein-gave-mueller-secret-authorization-to-target-manafort-behind-sessions-back/

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  7. deplorablehummer says:

    Question: in the memo, though the letterhead is shown as Deputy Assistant General, his title is shown as Acting Attorney General. Why? is this because AG Sessions recused himself?

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    • phoenixRising says:

      delusions of grandeur…
      Sessions recused himself ONLY from campaign matters, muh Russia…
      This was done BEHIND AG Sessions back.

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    • Sandra-VA says:

      Yes, in this matter he is the AAG because Sessions recused.

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      • phoenixRising says:

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        • Summer says:

          All these respectable gentlemen assume DAG Rosenstein “usurped” AG Sessions power without AG Sessions knowledge and approval.
          Following this logic, AG Sessions is a bumbling idiot oblivious to the fact that his powers are being blatantly misused and usurped for months (!) “behind his back.”

          Apparently Honorable Rosenstein bin Integrity, peace be upon him, is able to unconstitutionally usurp his boss’s powers (that secret letter was written EIGHT months ago, and who knows how many other secret letters he produced), appoint special counsels, sign bogus FISA, delay and impede Congressional investigations and FOIA requests, and yet enjoy his boss’s full confidence and approval…

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          • G. Combs says:

            How do you KNOW AG Sessions was not aware of what Rosenstink and Mulehead were up to? Did he tell you?

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            • Chewbarkah says:

              I think Summer is implying that Sessions was aware all along. It’s out in public view now. If Sessions has a problem with R or the Aug 2, 2017 memo, it’s in his court to say and do something about it. Has he?

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      • PS says:

        Yes, but did Sessions recuse himself from investigating something that happened to Manafort in the 2010-2014 time frame? That’s when that dude was President if the Ukraine that Manafort is accused of unregistered lobbying. Sessions is the one who should be authorizing that investigation.

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        • Chewbarkah says:

          The Anti-Trump Russia conspiracy theorists would connect the dots like this:
          A) Yanakovych was a puppet of the Russian government, and that Manafort’s work for him was in essence work for the Russia government, via Putin cronies and SVD operatives.
          B) Manafort was further involved in deals with businessmen/oligarchs in Putin’s orbit, and hoped to collect millions of dollars from a deal gone bad. In other versions, Manafort owes them millions and needs a way to square it up.
          C) Manafort used his association with Trump to peddle influence and potentially leverage big bucks from those connections.
          D) Assuming Manafort had influence over Trump or could establish connections/deliver insider access and information the Russians desired, it could compromise the POTUS and US security, even if Trump had no idea what Manafort was up to.
          Because of all the above, Manafort’s past business connections with Ukraine/Russia are completely relevant to the 2016 campaign. Since Sessions had a role in that same campaign, he would have a conflict of interest investigating related matters.

          Whether any of that is true, that’s the basis for looking into Manafort’s old business affairs (and it has some plausibility). The original SC authorization allows pursuit of crimes that are found while looking into Russian election interference and collusion with the Trump campaign. And lo and behold, with the exception of not registering as a foreign lobbyist, the charges against Manafort are all about money and tax evasion. Nothing so far indicates Manafort was influencing Trump to favor Russia, selling access, or colluding about the election. All that was just an excuse to open the can.

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  8. phoenixRising says:

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  9. phoenixRising says:

    twitter thread https://twitter.com/ElizabethleaVos/status/981611247455166464

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    • G. Combs says:

      “….All Russiagate Roads Lead To London….”

      Oh, yes! It was the UK (City of London Banksters) that interfered with our elections NOT RUSSIA .

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    • Electra says:

      Very interesting stuff. Thanks for posting.
      I’ve seen suggestions that the dossier stories may have originated with Latvian intelligence officers who were alarmed by their perception that Trump didn’t support NATO. Supposedly, they then funneled their concocted stories to the UK intel people. Anyone have a take on that? And no, before you all ask, I don’t remember where I saw it.😞

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      • singingsoul says:

        What we begin to see is that there is a international crime syndicate that supports the globalist ideology and Trump did not fit their paradigm so they used the intelligent services of UK and USA to oust President Trump. Very nice Not..( very angry)
        We have the equivalent of KGB running our FBO and secret service and DOOJ. This really sticks. What get me once a criminal is appointed as head dirty cop he can do what he wants and even hang crimes on a President. No checks no balance nothing. This is criminal !

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      • cozette says:

        The Uk Was one nexus of the plot to keep Trump out of the WH then when that failed, to remove him. Another was the Soros funded Atlantic Council which HATES Putin. Latvia is a member, so are the Ukrainians who forged dirt on Manafort then led a social media psyop to frame Putin for the DNC leak and then to frame Trump as a traitor. The author of the fake Crowdstrike report falsely claiming Russia hacked the DNC is a Putin hating member. So is McCain who gave the dossier credibility and launched Congressional probes into Putin and Trump. Also Evelyn Farkas who pushed the Russian collusion narrative with her Mika interview about trying to save the “evidence” before Trump came in and destroyed it and shut their operation down. The Atlantic Council is a vipers nest and a key player in this attempt to destroy our Republic.

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  10. dayallaxeded says:

    It is not obstruction of justice to resist, stop, or prevent unlawful conduct by a so-called law enforcement official. This is how topsy-turvy the imperial fedgov stasi is–they think any resistance to their sick, perverted will is criminal obstruction. But in any other context, the resistance would be the party acting lawfully. Most fedgov “law enforcement” needs to be disbanded and the job of criminal law enforcement, along with a lot of other things, needs to be returned to the states and locals, as the Constitution intended.

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    • Sandra-VA says:

      He is going to state that the President tried to impede the SC with his tweets. He already telegraphed this in a footnote on page 14 of his response to Manafort’s motion to dismiss.

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      • Stormyeyes says:

        You have to impede/obstruct something. If there is no crime, you cant obstruct it. Conspiracy is not a crime. No crime, nothing to impede/obstruct. May have annoyed Mueller but isn’t illegal. President is entitled to free speech, performing his job duties, etc.

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        • Sandra-VA says:

          I am just relaying what Mueller has already telegraphed. I didn’t opine as to validity/legality of it.

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        • Sandra-VA says:

          Here is the footnote I am referencing:

          6
          The Special Counsel also has “the authority to investigate and prosecute federal crimes
          committed in the course of, and with intent to interfere with, the Special Counsel’s investigation, such as perjury, obstruction of justice, destruction of evidence, and intimidation of witnesses” and has the authority “to conduct appeals arising out of the matter being investigated and/or prosecuted.” 28 C.F.R. § 600.4(a). Those authorities are not at issue here.

          From page 14 of his response to Manafort’s motion to dismiss:

          https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/4429626/4-2-18-US-Oppo-Manafort-Motion-to-Dismiss.pdf

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        • Sevenwheel says:

          The way i explain it is that my co-workers and i may decide among ourselves to order a pizza for lunch. We may have colluded and conspired to order a pizza, but because ordering a pizza isn’t a crime, neither is conspiracy to order a pizza.

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          • dayallaxeded says:

            And if you rant throughout the ordering process that you want anchovies, though the rest of the co-workers don’t, you may be irritating, but you’re not obstructing their order for an anchovie-free pizza. Fun analogy, though the Pavlovian effects are troubling.

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    • William F Buckley's Ghost says:

      Then 99% of economic criminals would escape punishment because the local police have neither the time nor expertise to investigate, prosecute and convict them. Furthermore, criminals in Florida ripping off victims in Seattle would never even be arrested because Seattle isn’t going to send a cop to Miami and Miami doesn’t care if anyone in Seattle is getting ripped off. That’s the reality of law enforcement today.

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  11. and
    Mueller asked for expanded powers after he illegally raided manafort’s house

    SO Rosenstein coverd up for MUELLER::: ya think ?

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  12. Firefly says:

    MUELLER, ROSENSTEIN, AND COMEY: THE THREE AMIGOS FROM THE DEEP STATE
    Roger Stone
    22 June 2017

    “There is a longtime and incestuous relationship between the fixers who have been tasked with taking down President Trump, under the fake narrative of enforcing the law.  James Comey worked in the DOJ directly under Mueller until 2005. Rod Rosenstein and Mueller go even further back.”

    “Lisa Barsoomian works for R. Craig Lawrence, an attorney who has represented Robert Mueller three times, James Comey five times, Barack Obama forty-five times, Kathleen Sebellius fifty-six times, Bill Clinton forty times, and Hillary Clinton seventeen times between 1991 and 2017.”
    https://stonecoldtruth.com/muller-rosenstein-and-comey-the-three-amigos-from-the-deep-state/

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  13. conservalicious says:

    I have always loved Sharyl Attkisson and this tweet perfectly sums up the unfair way Clinton/Trump investigations have been handled.

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    • pnj01 says:

      Sharyl’s second item repeats the oft-told story that Hillary’s subordinates have been granted immunity. Maybe, but I have also heard that Comey never actually took this case to a Grand Jury. How could he have gotten grants of immunity (presumably under 18 USC Secs. 6001-05) without DOJ involvement and if the Grand Jury was not involved? Or maybe this is a swamp legend?

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      • Jim in TN says:

        Reports at the time said the DOJ denied the use of a grand jury and also made the sweetheart immunity deals to obtain evidence and testimony.

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        • pnj01 says:

          “Sweetheart immunity deals”? What statutory authority?

          Before an AUSA or DOJ Special Attorney can get an immunity order (at least under the authority of 18 USC Sec. 6001-05), the authorization of a high level DOJ person (specified AAG or higher) is necessary, and that requires a memo from the requesting attorney that shows how the grant would advance a DOJ goal (e.g., “get to Mr. Big”). If Comey had already drafted an exoneration memo, it would be hard for anybody working for/with him to draft an acceptable request for immunity authority (“we want an immunity so we can be more positive about our desire to exonerate Hillary” does not compute).. I have never seen the relevant immunity requests and wonder whether they exist. Just asking….

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  14. phoenixRising says:

    from Sundance’s twitter a/c

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  15. Paul Killinger says:

    Interesting Questions…

    1. Did Rosenstein tell Sessions IN ADVANCE that he was expanding Mueller’s probe, as the AG would NOT have been Recused on any subject outside of Trump-Russia?

    2. And why hasn’t Rosenstein expanded Mueller’s probe to include Dems-Russia, unless he ALREADY KNEW that would entail Mueller’s team investigating THEMSELVES?

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    • Chewbarkah says:

      Presumably the answer to your Q2 is that Sessions has not recused himself from matters regarding the Dems, because he was not part of the Dem campaign. So Dem crimes are not in Rosenstein’s portfolio, unless Session’s court delegates the work to him.

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  16. If and when anyone uses Jeffrey TOOOOOOOOOOOOOBIN as a reliable
    resource, they are not even close to reality or facts

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  17. Firefly says:

    Jack Posobiec Tweet:

    Scoop: I’m told Rosenstein has instructed Mueller to follow DOJ rules and not submit any direct indictment of President Trump

    Mueller can only prepare a report, and Rosenstein will then determine next steps: Release, deliver to Congress, or do nothing

    Still 1-2 months away

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    • Stormyeyes says:

      I was under the impression that you could not indict a sitting President.
      http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/can_a_sitting_president_be_indicted_the_constitution_doesnt_give_a_definiti

      to impeach requires “high crimes and misdeamenors” and a 2/3 majority. Won’t happen unless something serious occurs in the future

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      • Firefly says:

        That’s the point. Sounds like PTrump won’t interview with Mueller. Since Mueller can’t indict he hasn’t subpoena PTrump. So Mueller writes a report of his findings and the DOJ takes it from there. As it stands now Mueller is calling PTrump a subject not a target. With his approval rating IG so high no way they can impeach- unless serious as you point out.

        In the meantime all this other stuff comes out – and maybe Judge Sullivan can finds enough misconduct by Mueller gang on the Flynn case.

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    • I think they’re trying to convince Trump to come in for questioning on his own so they can get him on record like they did Flynn. If he doesn’t, Mueller will concoct another avenue and try to build an “obstruction of justice” case around the Comey firing.

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  18. SteveO says:

    come on, man! report this:
    https://canadafreepress.com/article/rod-rosensteins-wife-represented-bill-clinton-shortly-after-rod-cleared-hil
    it’s nowhere else but HUGE conflict yet to be revealed in main stream. scoop ’em, Jackson!

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  19. Paul says:

    MUELLER AND ROSENSTEIN ARE VERY WORRIED

    There WILL be Grand Jury Investigations, Indictments, Prosecutions and Punishments; either through a Special Prosecutor OR Department of Justice.

    SESSIONS AND WRAY HAS TO PROSECUTE;
    As stated over a year ago; Sessions/Wray has to prosecute because there is a Mountain of Evidence that is everywhere and has been seen by everyone. The Evidence points to the Largest Criminal Organization in United States History. Just naming a few Criminal Acts; Treason, Sedition, Subversion, Espionage, Racketeering, Perjury, etc.

    SESSIONS AND WRAY WOULD BE AIDING AND ABETTING
    Sessions/Wray would be aiding and abetting in all Criminal Acts, if they do not use Common Investigative Policies and Practices and follow the evidence. Session and Wray would become a James Comey, who allegedly was corrupted by the Clinton’s Power (Clinton Foundation). Comey was the Top Law enforcement official in the World and allegedly aided and abetted in Criminal Acts. Again, the evidence is everywhere and is seen by everyone. I can’t imagine there being 3-in a row; corrupted highest law enforcement officials in the world. Session and Wray would destroy themselves.

    SESSIONS AND WRAY WANTS THE GLORY
    I have to believe that Sessions/Wray wants the glory to be known as one of the Greatest FBI Directors and Attorney Generals throughout history; by saving the Rule of Law, the Constitution and the United States. My Gosh; you would think they worked/wished there entire life to have this opportunity to Save the World.

    P/Trump will make sure there will be Grand Jury Investigations, Indictments, Prosecutions and Punishment. P/Trump knows he is holding an unbeatable hand by using the Criminal Code to Win this Civil War and he knows the criminal code will gain him 30 million more voters. P/Trump also knows MAGA would all be Reversed in 8 years by the Globalist/Elitist if he does not destroy them. Remember P/Trumps snake story.

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    • Jenni says:

      Rosenstein’s consistent actions look like he is part of the Conspiracy. Now there is documented proof that Rosenstein gave Mueller broader power than anyone knew; Immediately they try to hedge by saying the Investigation is not against P/Trump…they are trying to buy time so P/Trump doesn’t go Nuclear with the Criminal Code.

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      • Paul says:

        Just like James Comey’s hedges; Opens an investigation into Hillary right before the Election to throw everyone off track for his own protection, and then stated Lynch told him to call it a Matter (Sounds like an insurance policy for a plea-deal).

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        • Jenni says:

          P/Trump 2nd Nuclear Option
          PTrump has the Authority of the Constitution to demand the RELEASE of 1.2 million documents in the name of Justice. P/Trump has the authority to ask the DOJ/FBI directors to investigation Crimes and to give the President a detailed report of the findings which can be reviewed independently to validate the findings. Therefore, if the President wants to fully investigate the Alleged Crimes for the Past 8 years; he has the Authority and Power Granted by the Constitution (AGAIN HE HAS A DUTY TO OVERSEE THIS). The FBI and the Justice Department is not a separate Universe. P/Trump knows this….

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  20. Firefly says:

    Business Insider Reporting:
    Mueller is putting together a report in the obstruction case that could be as damaging to Trump as an indictment

    There was talk about Mueller being able to indict a president. The DOJ is instructing Mueller to submit report to DOJ and not indict directly. The talk about not being a “target” just means they want to interview PTrump first before making a decision.
    http://www.businessinsider.com/mueller-trump-obstruction-of-justice-report-could-be-damaging-2018-4

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    • pnj01 says:

      If he is not a target, it should be up to him whether he wants to waste his time getting involved with a bureaucrat’s “report.” That is his prerogative as Chief Executive of the USA. Were he a target, perhaps, Mueller might be entitled to haul his Presidential butt before the GJ. Without potential criminal liability, though, a President is entitled to decide how much he will get involved in any of the billions of issues he has delegated to his subordinates.

      Of course, if Mueller was just BSing his boss’s boss’s boss, and he wants to go back on the record and let Trump know that he does consider him a target (whether because he had been lying or because he’s developed new evidence), then Trump would have to reassess his decision. Of course, after 20 months worth of investigation, Mueller should have a heavy burden to claim that he has suddenly developed evidence that he and Comey hadn’t had until then. Were I POTUS, I would want some proof that the wild goose chase was now a more serious one.

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      • Firefly says:

        I don’t think Mueller can subpoena PTrump for GJ because Mueller can’t indict him. DOJ apparently directed Mueller he can’t indict directly – he gives DOJ a report and they take it from there.

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    • jnr2d2 says:

      Liberal Rag

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    • gda says:

      My, these folk are quite fearful now, aren’t they?

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  21. Timolin says:

    The excellent analyses provided by SUNDANCE are invaluable. Twists and turns are yet to come, but one side appears to be doing all the twisting at the moment. A group that has a lot to hide has plenty to fear, particularly as the President grows stronger. The hunters have become the hunted – and the last minute action against McCabe was a harsh demonstration of timing. Those who are not completely compromised will break ranks. Some have doubtless hoped Mueller would save them but that prospect has dimmed.

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  22. thedoc00 says:

    Problem is that no “legal” findings are necessary when it comes to evidence used at an impeachment. So, this is plainly indirect attack on Trump via his campaign subordinates and gathering information to be used if an impeachment motion is carried forward..

    How can Sessions allow Rosenstein to assign a prior criminal investigation to the special council and then use it as the “crime” to justify the special council, is the question to be asked.

    Any and all actions taken against the “small group” will not save Trump if the democrats and uni-party Republicans carry the day in November. They have Mueller’s “evidence”, declassified evidence removed by Clapper and Brennan that will resurface soon on TV as well as public wrong doing like the infamous “Charlotte Riot Statements” and crimes against female-hood past. Its all about rules of evidence in each legal venue.

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  23. phoenixRising says:

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    • covfefe999 says:

      Oooh, good article! Turley says McCabe was more interested in presenting himself as a victim than in the actual necessity of any legal defense fund–and that the entire fundraising campaign was premised on the false narrative that McCabe was losing his pension.

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  24. jnr2d2 says:

    Sundance, Consider this.Here is a reason for Rosenstein/Mueller possibly being white hats. Everything hinges on Uranium One. Let’s say that Rosenstein as the managing DOJ attorney and FBI Director Mueller at the time were unhappy that AG Holder was rope-a-doping their efforts and stringing out their investigation. And when Holder came back from CFIUS meeting he says that all seven other members approved of the action(State, DOD, Energy, Commerce, Trade Rep.,etc all agreed unanimously), so what could he do as the Rosenstein/Mueller investigation at that time had not “matured” sufficiently.
    They, in hindsight, have been bothered by those actions, and possibly others, so that they were the perfect duo to tackle, and clean up, the corruption mess. Remember Rosenstein, Huber, and Boente all were retained by Trump when all others were dismissed. Thus Rosenstein for DAG and Muller for SC. Muller. By agreement w/ Rosenstein and Trump , Muller would investigate “all” the mud , regardless of ridiculousness, surrounding “collusion with Russia.” And since Mueller is unanimously supported by Demo and Repubs, when he exonerates Trump and others, he will be believed by most everyone except the mad dogs(especially also because of all the Demo Donors on Mueller’s team).
    The whole SC investigation is a classic Counter-intel op to smoke out the conspirators by giving them a false sense of security so as to gather enough evidence to convict (by other prosecutors). But Mueller needs to drag it out till the trap gets sprung. Thus, the minor plea deals to process crimes and light sentences. Except the for the Foreign Agent reporting issues, that have been a source of aggravation in Law Enforcement and National Defense circles for some time. So, thus Flynn/Turkey, Manafort/Ukraine/Russia, and Podesta Group/Ukraine/Russia will be prosecuted. And why Flynn may stay with his plea bargain if he and his son avoid charges for that — and get a minor days plus dollars. Trump may pardon Flynn then, maybe. As a separate issue, Rosenstein/Mueller will become witnesses in the Uranium One case. You have to build up doing the law right inorder to re-establish the reputation of DOJ/FBI. And that is what Sessions is doing. And especially so if you want to go after Lynch, Rice, Brennan, Clapper etc , up to, and including Obama. By all political sides it must be considered legitimate in the end. This will actually be good for the Demos, eventually, as they cleanse and change players on their team — but will be in the wilderness for at least another six, if not ten years.

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    • I have had similar thoughts. The only dog I have in this fight is POTUS as we need him to prevail. Several things just don’t seem to line up right. And if someone can unburden me from these questions I’m all ears.
      1) It seems like pure BS that RR and Mueller go to the WH to consider Mueller for director of the FBI. Mueller was the FBI director and Comey’s direct predecessor. Mueller wants to “look into POTUS’ soul” or an arrogant F.U. to POTUS or “strategery” (sic).
      2) The very next day (Not a couple of days, or a week) Mueller is named SC. Really? The next darn day? (The biggest flag for me)
      3) After over 10 months of investigation, all there is, is 3 lying to FBI (one sentenced), 2 indictments for money laundering and other financial misdeeds (with one cutting a deal to a nothing charge) and 13 Russian trolls indicted with no hope of actual prosecution.
      NONE of this has ANYTHING to do with POTUS or his campaign.
      Seems like a whole lot of theater. Is it to be a drag on POTUS’ admin and agenda as commonly discussed here or a shiny object to keep the MSM and public distracted while the actual work is being done.
      POTUS tweeting about “witch hunts” and his disappointment in Sessions keeps the distraction at eye level and raises Mueller’s and Session’s standing in the Trump hating world so that when the MOAB drops there is no one to criticize and no credible allegations of partisanship..
      The weasels on Mueller’s team are the single biggest hurdle to the distraction theory unless it is, as you say, to keep them pinned down where they can do little harm.
      Sessions/Horowitz/Huber are a good argument for the distraction theory. Look how much they have done under the radar that is just now beginning to come to light.

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    • Tonawanda says:

      Paragraphs! Short paragraphs!

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    • jnr2d2 says:

      Then there is the counter argument that Rosenstein/Muller are targets in Uranium One. And thus the old adage of “keep your friends close and your enemies closer.” Thus let them add a cover-up and conspiracy charges to their crime. It would still be a counter-intel op. The case I made above is more plausible, while this one is Machiavellian!

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  25. Bethany Beach says:

    Many commenters, plus their attached information, seem to support the belief that Mueller, Comey and Rosenstein are all linked by years of past interaction, are supportive friends and are all Black Hats. This seems reasonable to me, but I do have one question: Why did Rosenstein write the letter to President Trump which provided the rationale for dismissing Comey? Was Comey going to “take one for the team” in order to ensure that Mueller was going to be appointed as Special Counsel. My only concern is that in doing this Comey was placed in a very precarious position, from which he might charged with one or multiple felonies. Doesn’t seem like the best of ideas.

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    • covfefe999 says:

      Rosenstein said Trump and Sessions intended to fire Comey but wanted his (Rosenstein’s) input. So Rosenstein wrote the memo. And then Trump used it as the reason for Sessions firing Comey which IIRC made Rosenstein angry. That memo seems to be the only good thing Rosenstein has done. Maybe during the interview process he was like “sure sure, we should get rid of Comey”, and when confronted with the request to provide rationale for the firing he couldn’t say no.

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      • cozette says:

        Q has always said TRUST Sessions and Wray. He never said that about Rosenstein. He recently said Rosenstein would have a bad April. How true. His only comment on Mueller was made last year when he said Mueller was a Marine. That the Marines backed POTUS and to note the many Marines surrounding him. He said the fact that Mueller is a Marine was significant.

        I encourage everyone to pray, enjoy the show and get busy so all Democrats are defeated in November. Retaking Congress is the Swamps last chance. That includes the GOPe Swamp. Forcing the RINOs back to Congress as an overwhelming majority will be the worst punishment possible for those Rats. They’ll be naked and exposed and have no excuses not to fulfill their promises. POTUS can use one tweet to destroy anyone who gets out of line just like he did with smug Corker and Flake.

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    • Matthew LeBlanc says:

      From the beginning I have believed the letter to dismiss was a set up of sorts. It covers all the necessary legalities and precedents but is political in nature not legal just like the SC. My belief was the Rosey knew the firing of Comey and his “leaks” as designed would lead to the SC which was the insurance policy the entire time. At this point besides justice being served the most intriguing thing to me is the string of events that lead to Rosey being nominated, confirmed, and then the SC. Either it was the biggest gaff in political history (Sloppy Steve says the firing of Comey biggest political mistake ever) or part of a high stakes and dangerous game of cat and mouse.

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      • G. Combs says:

        Jeff Sessions asks dozens of US attorneys appointed by Obama to resign

        “…The attorney general, Jeff Sessions, has asked for the resignations of 46 US attorneys who were appointed during the prior presidential administration, the justice department said on Friday.

        Many of the federal prosecutors who were nominated by Barack Obama have already left their positions, but the nearly four dozen who stayed on in the first weeks of the Trump administration have been asked to leave “in order to ensure a uniform transition”, a justice department spokeswoman, Sarah Isgur Flores, said….”

        It was President Trump that stepped in “…Only two prosecutors were held over….“The president called Dana Boente and Rod Rosenstein tonight to inform them that he has declined to accept their resignation, and they will remain in their current positions,” spokesman Peter Carr said in a statement.”

        The article goes on to say, “It is customary, though not automatic, for the country’s 93 US attorneys to leave their positions once a new president is in office. The Obama administration allowed political appointees of President George W Bush to serve until their replacements had been nominated and confirmed.”
        ………..

        So AG Sessions booted all 93 but President Trump decided to retained Dana Boente and Rod Rosenstein.

        Interesting that it was Yates, Boente, and Rosenstein who signed the FISA, title 1 application and renewals to spy on President Trump.

        Oct 21 2016 (initial) — Yates
        Jan 21 2017 (first renewal) — Yates
        Apr 21 2017 (second renewal) — Boente,
        Jul 21 2017 (third renewal) — Rosenstein

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  26. Stormyeyes says:

    VERY interesting thread on the matter, well worth reading the tweets!

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    • Kaco says:

      If Manafort was a “plant” then why did he ensure Pres Trump got his delegates? The whole point was to “stop Trump”.

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      • At first the Dems/Hillary thought Trump would be easy to beat. They wanted to face him in elections. That changed quickly after he won.

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      • gda says:

        Perhaps at that point they still thought he would crumble, they were over-confident, and they never really took him seriously. And besides, the fix was already in – this was a coronation and he was just the jester.

        They thought they had plenty ammo with which to “f**k Trump”.

        These people ARE stupid!

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    • jaxshamik says:

      What exactly is worth reading in all that liberal BS?

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    • MACAULAY says:

      Some of the remarks in the thread you pointed out, establish the existence of a parallel universe in this country which has been obvious for sometime.

      I think The Strzok/Page Texts are damning and may be this century’s Watergate, or perhaps its Deep Throat.

      But, some of these Liberals have barely ever heard of them….and the ones who have, dismissed their comments as lover talk.

      Somebody, some political faction (and the factions are the worst since 1859) is going to be grossly disappointed…shell-shocked actually.

      The material facts seem to be on the side of the folks who post on this board–the White Hats. But, the facts unfold at a glacial pace, when Time is of the essence…and the Mainstream Media has the power to determine which facts are “material”.

      Not everybody reads the Treehouse. And even when they do–note that even Sundance doesn’t seem to know whether Rosenstein is a Black Hat or a White Hat. If anybody has seen whether he/she has said…one way of the other in the last couple of days…I would appreciate a reference to it. I admire his rational, reasoned approach; his Sherlockean inductions.

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  27. Alison says:

    Thought just occurred to me, Sundance, regarding those huge blocks of redacted material in Rosenstein’s Aug 2 memo – what’s to prevent him from filling in those redacted portions at a later date with whatever he deems necessary on that later date? In other words, reserving space to ‘evolve’ the memo but preserving its Aug 2nd release date.

    Who vouches for ANYTHING that is redacted and later released in order to confirm it hasn’t been changed?

    They obviously screwed with the timing vis-a-vis Manafort with this memo. I don’t trust it won’t be done in the future if they figure out how to screw POTUS!

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    • Chewbarkah says:

      I see your point, but doing that would incur unnecessary risk of detection, and the resulting firestorm of criticism. Since Rosenstein obviously believes he has the power to “clarify” the authorization whenever it pleases him (and he’s probably correct), he could just issue another memo.

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    • TheWanderingStar says:

      Alison – if I were Mueller I wouldn’t want something filled in after I signed it or accepted it. Kind of like a blank check.

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  28. Donzo says:

    Why was Mueller picked? He definitely has skin in the game. As we all know Mueller was the enabler of Uranium One. As FBI director, it was he who turned his head thr other way making it possible for Hillary and Co.to profit by failing to indict the conspirators and despite a wealth of evidence. Uranium One is the case the can bring Hillary and Mueller down, particularly Hillary as she sold out American national security for personal gain. It was Hillary at her gangster worst. Mueller may be fighting for his freedom hoping to bring Trump down.It would be the surprise of the century if he’s a white hat. Having said that, Rosenstein is the bigger mystery.

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  29. Stormyeyes says:

    So much info to be checked out today. Lots of homework! Many things opening up!

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    • Leapin says:

      But, but she wiped her server with a cloth….

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      • G. Combs says:

        AND it may have been Peter Strok who picked it up.
        applejello‏ @apple_jello says in that twitter thread
        “I believe he says something to Lisa Page in one of their texts about picking up the Datto node.”

        I sure hope that is NOT the case!

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  30. Stormyeyes says:

    Of course! Great tweets

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  31. Impatient says:

    I would like to throw out a guess at what the redacted portions of Rosenstein’s letter says: “We know that your team is compromised. We are not going to shut ypu down, but you cannot interfere with the Horowitz/Huber investigation.”

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  32. albrevin says:

    If Mueller and Rosey are going forward with some kind of ‘report’ (not charge) accusing POTUS of obstruction of justice based on tweets, that is laughable. Their whole charade should be laughed out of America. If anything, POTUS should be charged with OBSTRUCTION OF INJUSTICE!

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    • Leapin says:

      A report would nothing short of creating a new circus in concert with the MSM. The MSM will just chuckle and say “hey we were a little bit zealous with our stories about Trump, but no harm done, look at this report”.

      If it gets to the point of a press conference by Mule and Rosy to announce their “report” that would be an excellent time to hand them their indictments.

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    • They CANNOT go forward with a charge against POTUS. The constitution forbids that.

      All they can do is come out with a report that they hope the House of Representatives will act on.

      Only the House can indict a sitting president…… Won’t happen.

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    • there is zero crime

      cannot “obstruct” zero crime

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  33. Donzo says:

    When I wake up tomorrow I want to hear that Mueller was arrested in an early morning raid, that Hillary was fitted with a straitjacket and that Obama is being chased down the LA freeway in a Ford Bronco. As for Brennan I will have to think about that one.

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    • Leapin says:

      Brennam stoped at the airport trying to make his way to Cuba for asylum.

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    • cozette says:

      Donzo thats not how justice happens in our Constitutional Republic. By the way, I’m surprised that youre ambivalent about Brennan one of the head Rats going back decades but so certain about Mueller. Very odd. Anyway, thank God you are not going to get your wish.

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      • dayallaxeded says:

        Actually, that’s exactly how it works under our Constitution–when LEOs have probable cause, based on solid evidence that a person has committed a crime, they arrest them, detain them appropriately and pursue them, if they attempt to abscond in an old white bronco. G. Combs solves the question about Brennan–“Brennam roped by Zinke and dragged down Fifth Ave.”

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  34. Niagara Frontier says:

    I apologize if this was already answered in terms of Mueller being forthcoming with the President about the investigation.

    My question is whether or not Frazier v. Cupp, 394 U.S. 731, 1969 applies here? That’s the Supreme Court case that ruled that use of trickery and deceit by investigators can be permissible (depending on the totality of circumstances) provided that it does not shock the conscience of the court or community.

    If it applies, why then would anybody believe anything Mueller says about this investigation as it relates to the President?

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  35. trumpmaga says:

    Great work SD. God bless you.

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  36. Massachesetts Deplorable says:

    I am not a good analyst for all of this, so this question might seem naïve to many. But is it possible that Mueller has enough integrity that he is cooperating fully with IG / Huber. If he doesn’t have the authority to investigate Clinton / Russia and ( perhaps ) Podesta’s brother’s involvement in work similar or duplicating Manafort’s – then maybe he has willingly provided IG info.
    Perhaps he has encouraged Sessions to appoint Huber.
    He has to be a smart guy and anyone with integrity would resent being used in what amounts to REALLY, REALLY, REALLY dirty politics and corruption.
    I hope we will later find out this is the case.

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    • watching from all sides Mueller verified he will persecute anyone
      for a headline. HE has zero morals or values, he will torture anyone for
      any reason::: Flynn is just 1 example.
      MUELLER has zero integrity:: he is NOT a white hat and will never be
      his entire career is littered with serious fraud.

      Mueller would light the gas chamber.

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  37. jeans2nd says:

    We have covered much ground and many people in the past year plus.
    Mueller (and Rosenstein?) seems to have gone from using the Steele Dossier to find someone – anyone – to prosecute, to protect mode, to protect first of all the Small Group, and, perhaps more importantly, protecting the FBI/DOJ at large. imo

    There are many Congressional committees covering this, and we have seen, and heard, from all of them. All, that is, except one. The Senate Intel Cmte. Why?

    Listening to the confirmation of Lt Gen Paul M Nakasone for NSA Dir/US Cyber Cmder, 3 Apr 2018 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7t-LFOC6Uy8, our fav armchair senator Sen Richard Burr let a little something slip in the last 3 min of the hearing.
    There was virtually no one at this hearing; only 5 or so Senators showed up for questioning.

    01:02:55 “The relationship between this committee and that agency (NSA) is, has never been better than it is right now, and I think that that’s because it’s been earned on both sides, the agency (NSA) and the committee.

    01:03:09 “The agency (NSA) has provided us an unprecedented access to its products as we’ve worked for the last fourteen months through a very difficult investigation which is distinctly different from the oversight role, traditional oversight role of the committee. And I would ask you as long as that investigation continues that it’s important on your end that you distinguish the requests for the investigative portion, from the oversight, ongoing oversight, real-time oversight of the committee, because it will require us to see products that we wouldn’t historically ask for, and if we did we would probably be refused.”

    01:03:57 “But it is essential for this committee to do a thorough and complete review of what has happened to our election system…”

    01:04:22 “Our ability to understand that and to not only enhance our defensive capabilities but to begin as the Vice-Chairman says frequently, to form a strategic outline of options that we have, both defensive and offensive, is absolutely important.”

    01:04:48 “We put a tremendous amount of emphasis on our ability to get this right, and in large measure that’s because of the access that the NSA has provided us. And I’m sure that under your leadership that will continue.”

    (talk about run-on sentences…this guy puts me to shame)

    What are these people up to, the Senate Intel Cmte? A cover-up of the cover-up? You sure Mark Warner was alone in contacting Oleg Deripaska (sp?) to speak with Christopher Steele, that the others only found out later and agreed to keep quiet? Or were they all in on it and Warner volunteered for glory?

    Otoh, if Adm R is cooperating with Rep Nunes, Sen Grassley, IG Horowitz/Huber, and AG Jeff as much as Burr says Adm R is cooperating with the Senate Intel Cmte, which does seem likely, then perhaps we may see a satisfactory end to this after all.

    stay out of the weeds.
    aye aye Cap’n. (cannot help it, the sea is in my blood…)
    have a cigar you’re gonna go far…we call it Ridin’ the Gravy Train…

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  38. Manafort tried challenging whether Mueller had gone beyond his mandate from Rosenstein. Mueller pulled his ace in the August memo showing Rosenstein explicitly granted him jurisdiction over Manafort’s tax evasion from his work in Ukraine.

    Perhaps Manafort would have been wiser to challenge Rosenstein’s ability to grant such jurisdiction. Sessions’ recusal only covered matters relating to the Election.

    Also, the initial letter laying out the special counsel mission stated he’d be picking up the counter intelligence investigation already under way. But what’s missing? The DNC servers. If this were a real investigation that’s the first place you’d start. Was it a hack or a leak? If it was a leak, was there coordination with the leaker? If not, investigation over. If it was a hack then you have your first crime. But it’s unlikely Mueller would ever be able to establish that crime because the FBI never saw the servers and cyber attribution is a nearly impossible task. So again, Investigation over.

    If he were able to prove attribution, then indict the hacker., Then maybe he could explore whether they coordinated with the campaign. But I think we can safely say he hasn’t traveled very far down that road, at all.

    Starting with years old tax issues that were already looked into previously is completely backwards. This notion that he’s trying to ‘flip’ Manafort is absurd. He doesn’t even know a crime was commited, much less whether Manafort has any information about it. No one’s ‘flipping’. Mueller’s just trying to get skins on the wall for their PR value. See Van der Zwaan.

    It’s clear to any impartial observer that Mueller is overseeing a farce investigation. On these grounds, it should be shut down immediately. If he then wants to issue a counter intelligence report full of caveats and squishy “assessments” like the ones we’ve already gotten, he’s free to do so and it won’t mean anything.

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  39. CB says:

    Is it just me or does anyone else want the straight dope on Rosenstein? The information about his actions has not been forthcoming. He seems to be a vital part of the ongoing charade and we never get to know how exactly he fits into FISA , the FBI operations, and Mueller’s outline.
    Why does the American public have to guess about what our government is doing?
    Comey makes a mockery of the public almost daily and it makes us feel like fools for paying his salary. Same for McCabe. Rosenstein may not put himself out there but I’m wondering if he’s just a Comey who doesn’t want publicity?

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  40. BigTex says:

    This fiasco is a bigger clown show than P.T. Barnum ever could imagine.

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  41. RICHARD CANARY says:

    These investigations, interviews, firings and quittings are almost too much for me to keep in view at any one time. What really sticks with me is that I would not trust Mueller with the time of day or any declarations he makes. He is acting as a political hitman.

    Right now, I think Mueller is having a hard time finding investigative avenues that can keep the heat on Trump throughout the summer and into the fall so that maximum damage can be dealt to conservative candidates.

    The democrats are scared stiff over the impending elections, and they are counting on Mueller to come through with a gut-punch to Trump with which they can revive all the lies they were hatching
    throughout 2016 and 2017.

    If Mueller can tie even the weakest of knots between Trump and any person in his campaign or entourage for illegal actions with or without Trump’s awareness, the democratic party and its media can blast it ad nauseum to do damage to many GOP candidates and to do double duty as it enrages the leftists’ base.

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  42. Willie Elbel says:

    Can anyone identify any other western first world country that has a system to allow endless government sanctioned attacks with no crime identified on an elected official?

    There may be one but this sanctioned attack by Mooler means the Constitution is really null and void and this country is like a dead man walking on the verge of collapse.

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  43. Mueller is sinister
    he cannot be trusted
    he is engaged to frame TRUMP any way possible
    that is his ONLY agenda

    20 million from Tom Steyer verifies that .

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  44. jeans2nd says:

    Y’all know i luv ya. Almost more’n my puter. And would never ever argue with y’all. much
    But collusion is not a crime, and conspiracy is durn hard to prove, is it not?

    Y’all subscribe to Occam’s Razor, which is commonly used and is very good.

    Some of us crazy people tend toward Hanlon’s Razor. “Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.” As described by RationalWiki – “Assuming intent is a pretty big assumption, but we all know that (other) people are idiots.” Iow, stupid. https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor

    Let us look at some questions in this post –
    “FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe was was interviewed about his media leaks in May 2017.” Interviewed by whom?

    ““a couple of months later” he was interviewed by IG Horowitz” So not initially interviewed by Horowitz. Who interviewed McCabe May 2017?
    “May 2017 McCabe denies leaking for WSJ story (to FBI).” Who in the FBI? Why?

    McCabe was interviewed by the FBI “Leaking” Task Force, initiated by AG Jeff Feb 2017. “Soon after I arrived here in February, I initiated a review of our leak investigations and prosecutions…” https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/attorney-general-jeff-sessions-delivers-remarks-briefing-leaks-classified-materials

    AG Jeff was using Eric Holder’s “National Insider Threat Task Force” that was established in 2011. AG Jeff leads this task force with DNI Coates “Together, we lead the National Insider Threat Task Force that was established in 2011…” https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/attorney-general-jeff-sessions-delivers-remarks-briefing-leaks-classified-materials

    AG Jeff confirmed this 26 May 2017, coincidentally at a time when AUSA John Huber was in D.C. “We have already initiated appropriate steps to address these rampant leaks that undermine our national security.” https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/statement-attorney-general-jeff-sessions-leaks-following-manchester-terror-attack

    Was unable to reconfirm the May 2017 Huber visit (could not find it again), but AUSA Huber was in D.C. again 28 June 2017 and actually briefed Fake News on Kate’s Law at the Press Beating “Statement by U.S. Attorney John W. Huber on Kate’s Law and the No Sanctuary for Criminals Act…Today, at the White House press briefing, U.S. Attorney John W. Huber gave the following statement…” https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/statement-us-attorney-john-w-huber-kate-s-law-and-no-sanctuary-criminals-act

    The leakers were warned a third time (tol’y’all they were stupid…), 4 Aug 2017 “Soon after I arrived here in February, I initiated a review of our leak investigations and prosecutions. I reviewed how these cases were being referred and handled…For the past several months, we have already made changes and are seriously ramping up our efforts. ” https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/attorney-general-jeff-sessions-delivers-remarks-briefing-leaks-classified-materials

    Returning to our questions –
    Question #1) Why did Asst. Attorney General Rod Rosenstein deliver a non-public outline of investigative authority to Mueller on August 2nd, 2017?
    Question #2) Why would Robert Mueller be seeking a signed more specific outline of his investigative authority on August 2nd, 2017; a full three months after he was assigned the role of Special Counsel?
    Question #3) Why would Robert Mueller need to redact the content of an official outline of his investigative instructions from the Asst. Attorney General?

    One might posit that all three questions might be answered with the easiest law infractions to prove – leaking and lying. Confine the non-public info to Mueller’s team, the “small group.” Iow, Black Hat Hunting.

    You said it yourself – “Michael Flynn is forced to sign a sketchy guilty plea for *presumably* lying to the FBI…On December 2nd *some entity* within the process hits back against the corrupt insiders…” The White Hats outed the leakers, then outed the liar(s), after the leakers/liar(s) had already been caught.

    “Why would Team Mueller be asked to narrow the focus? Because Inspector General Michael Horowitz just informed him/them of his discovery of the conspiracy behind the DOJ and FBI plan against Donald Trump.” ???

    Conspiracy? Nah. These people are just Stupid. Very Stupid people who watch way too much tv and thought they had a “Very Smart Plan.”

    They are just a bunch of sneakin’ connivin’ lyin’ leakers, who happened to run up against a bunch of Very Good White Hats and got caught. imo
    they always underestimate the quiet ones

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