Major Tripwire Alert – North Carolina GOPe Change Primary – Join FL, OH, IL March 15th…

While everyone is busy chasing “shiny things”, and Karl Rove keeps feeding the media for “Operation Hummingbird” the GOPe apparatus is working behind the scenes to usurp the conservative electorate and assist, now modify, their GOPe road map to nominate Jeb Bush.

Forget Rubio and Fiorina, they are the Hummingbirds.  They are only in place to remove the threat that is Trump.  Once Trump is dispatched, Rubio and Fiorina go back to loyal team members of Jeb Bush.  This is Karl Rove at work.  The RNC/GOPe have one goal. The RNC/GOPe have only one goal. Their goal is to deliver THIS OUTCOME:

clinton bush

It is beyond urgent that EVERY PATRIOT GET ENGAGED now more than ever.  There is a good strategy to defeat them (Operation Cold Anger), but everyone must know the severity -and scope- of the RNC/GOPe Machiavellian maneuvering.

We cannot just hope to avoid another 2012 Romney, we must engage with everyone we know to avoid it – this time we have a head start.  However, the Rovian GOPe is relentless.

[ As an aside we have it under good authority that Boehners decision today is partly related to his unwillingness to engage himself in this upcoming inter-party war, which will be WAY beyond the scope of anything we have seen before. This is going to be ugly. ]

We must also understand the GOPe Roadmap. We must understand the GOPe rule changes the RNC/GOPe put into place specifically to support their road map. We also need ground reports to continue coming in from those of you who are aware of the machinations. Colorado has headed off one GOPe assault, Ohio is currently engaged in a similar scheme and fight…. it’s going on everywhere.

PREVIOUSLY […]  In 2014, the RNC approved selection rules that govern how each state’s delegates are portioned out from the primaries. Under one of the changes, states holding their primaries between March 1 and March 14 will have their delegates doled out proportionately with election results, a change that will likely stymie a movement candidate.

States that have primaries on or after March 15 will be winner-take-all states. (link)

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Now to North Carolina – which has just changed their primary date to March 15th (previously May then March 1st ‘proposed/planned’ -Super Tuesday-). This is done to pull out of the RNC/GOPe proportional distribution and into winner-take-all distribution which begins for all primary races on/after March 15th 2016.

This is also done to assist TEAM JEB and his (actually, Roves) “splitter” strategy. Here’s the details:

NORTH CAROLINA – A bill to change North Carolina’s Presidential Primary election date from May to March has been passed by the General Assembly. House Bill 373 was ratified yesterday and today was sent to Governor McCrory for signature.

The House vote was close with 52 Ayes and 49 Nays.  So was the Senate’s vote, which had zero Democrats voting for it. The tally in the Senate was 43-30.

Current law is found under Article 18A of Chapter 163, The Presidential Preference Primary Act. A summary of the changes notes the major changes:

  • Primary moved to March 15th. The original date was in May.
  • Reduces the time that a candidate must be affiliated with a political party before filing as a candidate in a party primary for that party from 90 days to 75 days.
  • Moves the filing period from noon on the second Monday in February through noon on the last business day in February to noon on Tuesday, December 1, 2015, through noon on Monday, December 21, 2015.
  • Requires a candidate’s statement of economic interest to be filed with the State Ethics Commission by February 1, 2016.
  • Requires that the first quarter campaign finance reports are due Monday, March 7, 2016, and include the period through February 29, 2016 and that the report for the second quarter also covers March 2016.
  • Sets the date of to May 24, 2016 (May 3, 2016, for office of U.S. Senate or U.S. House of Representatives). This conforms with existing law, which provides that any potential second primary is to be held 7 weeks after the first primary (10 weeks for office of U.S. Senate or U.S. House of Representatives).
  • Provides that any special election authorized by statute or local act that is set for May 2016 must be placed on the ballot on March 15, 2016, unless the unit of government calling the special election affirmatively changes the date for the special election to another date in accordance with current law.

Additional points to note from the text of the bill:

  • No later than December 16, 2015, the chair of each political party shall submit to the State Board of Elections a list of its presidential candidates to be placed on the 2016 presidential preference primary ballot
  • the filing period for the 2016 primary shall open at 12:00 noon on Tuesday, December 1, 2015, and close at 12:00 noon on Monday, December 21, 2015.

You don’t have to be a genius to see that this date change is being done in order to screw over certain candidates in favor of establishment preferred ones.

The sound bite coming out of the General Assembly about the date change is ‘it will cut costs!’ If you’re buying that as the driving factor, I’ve got a set of experimental education standards to sell you. Don’t worry, Jeb Bush say’s they are great.  (link)

Remember North Carolina was one of the (RNC Controlled) state legislatures last month which was working earnestly to block Donald Trump via the “Loyalty Pledge“.

Today’s change is 100% specifically done in response to the continued successful polling of Donald Trump which has forced the GOPe Road Map to make significant modifications.  The RNC/GOPe is now maneuvering state primary races, yet again, to create blocks of voting.

North Carolina carries 72 delegates. 69 delegates apportioned based on voting.  NC has 13 congressional districts each worth 3 delegates.

The State Chairman shall allocate Delegate positions between the Candidates accurately reflecting the division of votes in the statewide primary.  In addition there are TEN delegates “At Large” distributed based on rolled up district vote totals and 20 “Bonus Delegates” apportioned again by the State Chairman according to the individual percentage of overall vote.

That’s 69 delegates: 10 base at-large + 13 congressional districts (39) + 20 bonus.

In addition there’s 3 “super delegates” or “Party delegates”.  “The 3 party leaders, the National Committeeman, the National Committeewoman, and the chairman of the North Carolina’s Republican Party, will attend the convention as unbound delegates by virtue of their position”.

The date change (House Bill 373) now puts NC into the calendar Tuesday March 15th with Florida, Ohio and Illinois:

  • Florida: 99 Delegates (Winner Take All) / Closed Primary
  • Ohio: 66 Delegates (WTA, or if less than 50% Proportional) / Modified Primary (Independents and Republicans)
  • Illinois: 69 Delegates (Proportional w/ Beauty Contest) / Open Primary
  • North Carolina: 72 Delegates (Winner Take All) / Modified Primary

Every RNC change, every state RNC change, every single manipulative intent has been carefully designed and scripted to deliver a very specific outcome.  If you eliminate Donald Trump, and spread out his support base, the GOPe win and Jeb Bush is nominated.

There is only ONE WAY to defeat this RNC/GOPe plan.  Operation “Cold Anger” begins  on October 1st and we will outline how to defeat this plan.

Defeating the GOPe does not require ANYONE to support Donald Trump – but it does require EVERYONE to get involved in the primaries.

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Just a Reminder, this is an insurgency. – The modern enemy of Wall Street is Main Street vulgarians. The enemy of the RNC/GOPe is not Democrats, it’s Grassroots Conservatives, more vulgarians.

The Republican Party, and the Republican media apparatus, view us as their enemy. We are the enemy they need to protect themselves from:

In 2014, the RNC approved selection rules that govern how each state’s delegates are portioned out from the primaries. Under one of the changes, states holding their primaries between March 1 and March 14 will have their delegates doled out proportionately with election results, a change that will likely stymie a movement candidate.

States that have primaries on or after March 15 will be winner-take-all states.

That’s important because another RNC rule change requires that a candidate must win a majority of delegates in eight or more states before his or her name may be presented for nomination at the 2016 Republican National Convention.

With 18 GOP presidential candidates, for now, it will be that much harder for any candidate to win a majority in any state, let alone eight. (Article July 2015)

GOP-versus-Tea-PartyNow, ask yourself, why would the RNC want to “stymie a movement candidate“? Who exactly does that benefit? Obviously, the “non-movement” candidate, ie “the turtle“.

Isn’t the entire reason for campaigning in Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina etc. to make a movement/momentum?

In addition Rule #40 changed in 2014 from previously five needed state wins, to a newer threshold of eight (8):

Officially, it’s Rule 40 in the RNC handbook and it states that any candidate for president “shall demonstrate the support of a majority of the delegates from each of eight (8) or more states” before their name is presented for nomination at the national convention. (article March 2014)

Again, ask yourself who does this benefit? A candidate can win seven states outright, and still not have their name presented for nomination?

These rules were made 2014 / affirmed in 2015 – Who or what exactly was the GOP concerned about blocking in 2016 that would necessitate such rules? When combined with other rule changes you can clearly identify a consolidation of power within the RNC apparatus intentionally constructed to stop the candidate of the GRASSROOTS from achieving victory.

It’s all part of their GOPe Roadmap.

update-1 Reference and Resources – (links to internal MSM references are contained within prior outlines):

RNC Rule Changes

RNC Rule Battles

  1. Following The Money
  2. The GOPe Roadmap
  3. ♦ The Roles of The Players – “The Splitters
  4. ♦ How each candidate is aligned in the Roadmap
  5. ♦ Arrow #1 Trump Hits The Super-PACs – The GOPe Achilles Heel
  6. ♦ Arrow #2 Trump Hits Bush – Inside The Wall Street Fortress
  7. ♦ Arrow #3 Trump Cuts Off Rubio/Bush switch – The GOPe Switch
  8. ♦ The Rick Perry Tripwire Exposed – DC Super-Pac
  9. ♦ Jeb Bush Super-Pac Will immediately spend $10 Million
  10. ♦ Proving there is only one political party in Washington DC
  11. ♦ Why Support Trump – Part One (The GOPe Ruse)
  12. ♦ Why Support Trump – Part Two (Stop being played)
  13. ♦ Why Support Trump – Part Three (Intellectual Details)
  14. ♦ How To Defeat the GOPe Road Map
  15. ♦ Current Polling Exposes – the Ohio, Florida, Texas, Virginia, New York Splitters
  16. ♦ Florida Polling Exposes – Donald Trump defeating Jeb’s Florida Strategy
  17. ♦ Rush Limbaugh Discusses/AffirmsThe “splitter strategy”
  18. ♦ The Biden Paradox – Trump Winning Means Clinton Must Be Removed
  19. ♦ Salem Media Communications (GOPe Media Arm) Launches Attack
  20. ♦ Open Letter To GOPe – The Conservative Frustration
  21. ♦ Why The GOPe Will Never Stop Attacking Donald Trump

 

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234 Responses to Major Tripwire Alert – North Carolina GOPe Change Primary – Join FL, OH, IL March 15th…

  1. mikesylwester says:

    Thanks for all your work in keeping us informed about this. If I didn’t read this website, I would be completely ignorant about this, and I consider myself to be well informed about politics.

    Liked by 7 people

    • Les says:

      I’m not very political, so I’m very thankful someone takes the time to do this. It’s good to have everything in one place. I’m getting old, so I need to look stuff up more often.

      Great public service given by Sundance and crew. I hope they get invited to the inauguration. They have earned it. Maybe even a ride on that helicopter…

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    • It seems most important that Mr. Trump sees this. Some one with a Twitter acct please send him a link. Also send to Sen. Cruz.

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      • Trump can win.Cruz won’t come close.the one thing the GOPe isn’t seeing are the DEMS that are switching party to vote Trump in the primaries and general.They only poll Republicans. Trump is going to win in a landslide.If i were Trump i’d watch my back with the so called outsiders they’ll use. If the used take the bait that is. They might if they want to take out Trump badly enough(Carson,Fioriana and Cruz would be the 3;most likely Carson.See who the sweetie is on Fox each month.That gives a heads up).

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  2. clash108 says:

    Jeb Bush is like Governor Lepetomane and Rove is like Hedley (That’s Hedy!) Lamarr from Blazing Saddles trying to protect their phony baloney jobs.

    [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTmfwklFM-M]

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  3. Juan says:

    I don’t see how this is of any help to YEB! In fact I’ll be surprised if YEB! can even hang on until March 15th. His energy will be sapped by then … along with getting drubbed in the earlier primaries.

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  4. bleep21k says:

    @Sundance – I find myself waiting during my work day for your next very informative post. A wealth of necessary “intelligence” (literally!)…

    Thank you…I for one do appreciate your diligence!

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    • Piper says:

      I also run home and check here before doing anything else, (my poor dog), I am new to the site, I am trying to spread the word about CT and “Splitter”. I have a question that may seem dumb but here goes…
      Q. Why does Rove think ANY conservative will come out to vote for Jeb? I would just stay home and damn the consequences. From what I’m seeing and hearing EVERYWHERE, no one wants to vote for the dynasty candidate, why don’t they get this?

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      • Betty says:

        Jeb said at the beginning of his campaign “I might have to lose the primary to win the general”. That statement baffled me so I watched him closely – I believe that Jeb and the GOPe planned to cheat him into the GOP nomination and then to win the general by beating Hillary on her own turf and to heck with the grass roots. To do that he needs you and others like you to stay home out of disgust. So don’t do it !

        If it comes to it who would you have to deal with in the White House – an enemy you know hates you, or a liar who will stab you in the back?

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    • daughnworks247 says:

      Me too. Sundance is “habit forming”.

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  5. Voltaire's Crack says:

    From the most recent NC poll I was able to find from PPP, published on August 19.

    Raleigh, N.C. – Last month when we polled North Carolina and found Donald Trump
    leading the Republican field, it was the first poll by anyone anywhere to find Trump out
    ahead. He was at 16%. Our newest survey of the state finds that Trump’s momentum has
    just continued to grow. He’s now at 24% to 14% for Ben Carson, 13% for Jeb Bush, 10%
    for Ted Cruz, 9% for Marco Rubio, and 6% each for Carly Fiorina, Mike Huckabee, and
    Scott Walker. Those folks make for a pretty clean top 8 in the state. Rounding out the
    field are Rand Paul at 3%, Chris Christie and Rick Santorum at 2%, John Kasich and
    Rick Perry at 1%, Jim Gilmore, Bobby Jindal, and George Pataki with less than 1%, and
    Lindsey Graham with literally no supporters.
    Trump’s 8 point gain gives him the biggest momentum in the state over the last month.
    The other two candidates with upward momentum are Carson and Cruz. Carson’s gone
    from 9% to 14% as people’s first choice. Beyond that he’s 21% of voters’ second choice,
    making him the clear leader on that front. And his 66/11 favorability rating makes him
    the most popular of the GOP hopefuls in the state. Cruz has gone from 6% a month ago
    to his 10% standing now.

    Pretty dated though.

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    • Dixie says:

      This makes me wonder how wise we were to raise so much h3ll with the NC republican party when it was threatened that they would refuse to put Trump on the ballot. I’m wondering if this was another method which cropped up after we ganged up on them and they assured citizens by the official website that they had no intention of doing any such thing and that it was a rumor. (Liar, liar, pants on fire) Maybe they withdrew to the back conference room to come up with another plan. But I think we would have been between a rock and a hard place either way.

      I guess I’ll move on to my other plan to work on the Convention of States just in case. But, of course, first of all, we await Sundance’s Cold Anger plan.

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      • Looking hard says:

        Yes please join us on the Convention of States Project. Its a longer term effort but its the only (peaceful) way we can rein in the over-reaching federal government.

        I will vote for Trump and I am looking forward to see the strategy of Cold Anger too, but we still need to use the solution our Founders gave us in Article V of the Constitution to impose fiscal restraints on the federal government, limit is power and jurisdiction, and get term limits for Congress, Supreme Court justices, and federal judges.

        http://www.conventionofstates.com

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      • skipper1961 says:

        Dixie, Something tells me that Cold Anger is going to be EPIC!Remember : “The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese”

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  6. John D says:

    Screw the GOPe and their machinations. I predict they’ll backfire on them. I, for one, will not vote for a cuckservative GOPe candidate. They do NOTHING for us, even when elected. If it’s not Trump or Cruz, I’ll be voting write-in.

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  7. VVV says:

    If the GOPe succeeds in getting Bush through the primaries then Trump goes independent. Bush loses.

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    • parteagirl says:

      Trump could go write-in. Worked for Lisa Murkowski in Alaska.

      (I remember that Alaskans had to spell her last name exactly right or it didn’t count, and a conservative website spelled it differently each time it came up. I laughed every time.
      Trump, fortunately, would not have that problem!)

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      • judyw says:

        Murkowski won only because GOPe supported her. She lost the primary but slid in with the GOPe supported write-in campaign, went right back to her leadership position for Republicans in the Senate…..

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    • Sentient says:

      Bush loses, Hillary (or Biden) wins. Uniparty.still wins.

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      • R-C says:

        In the end, the GOPe is only truly interested in ONE thing: maintaining its power over the party. That is the bottom line; Job Number One.

        If Bush wins (or any handy Bush clone), they’ll be overjoyed. If a democrat wins, they won’t be too upset–they’ll still be holding the reins of power over the republican party (with all the perks of power), and they get along fine with their buddies in the democrat party.

        But if Trump wins–it’s curtains for them; total disaster. They lose their grip on the party; they lose their perks; they likely become pariahs in DC–and they might have to get “real” jobs because they will not be very useful as lobbyists since Trump will never play ball with them.

        The GOPe simply can’t let that happen. That is why they’re fighting like a wounded badger caught in a bear trap.

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  8. prescient11 says:

    SD,

    Is this change just to front load the March 15th date and create more burden for a non GOPe candidate? Cruz probably has enough $$ to shoulder the burden. Trump does as well obviously.

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    • sundance says:

      It definitely means more money, and more campaign expenses. Yes, this change also favors Jeb financially.

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      • prescient11 says:

        Gotcha, thanks. I thought it would just be more burdensome but didn’t see anything else that was alarming.

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      • jello333 says:

        Hey Sundance. You know I’m not a Republican (though I no longer consider myself a Democrat either, although I haven’t yet made it official at the Clerk’s office). And I gotta admit that all the other Repub candidates (and the Dems too) turn me off. But Trump… that’s a different matter. If HE wins the Repub nomination, come November of next year I’ll probably be voting Republican for the first time in my life.

        Anyway, what I’m wondering is between now and then, what can I as a NON-Republican do to help Trump that the average Republican might not be able to do?

        (By the way, you and this site can take a lot of credit for the fact that I’m feeling this way! 😉 NEVER would I have expected this.)

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        • Doodahdaze says:

          Who here is still a Republican Jell? Nobody. We have all had enough of them.

          Liked by 8 people

        • moogey says:

          Check your state election rules. Register as a Republican or Independent and vote in the primary. Just because you vote Republican in the primary doesn’t mean that you can’t vote Democratic or Independent in the General, and you could assist America by being one of those who want to see Trump in the General.

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        • sundance says:

          Hey Jello, do y’all think you can get someone other than Hillary in the Dem primary? (I don’t remember your state – d’oh) Anyway, regardless, if you would vote for Trump in the general election my question would be why not do everything to see him succeed in the primary?

          Does that question make sense? I mean, I’m certainly not trying to tell you what/how/who to vote for – but if you find yourself leaning toward the views, ideas and goals of Trump, then what’s to lose by doing everything needed to get him into place.

          You see, essentially the PRIMARY is the biggest fight in this election. For all the reasons you carry personally, there are millions more like you/us who feel the same way. I call us the “common sense coalition” who just want govt to get out of the social engineering crap, and focus on allowing America to be exceptional.

          What’s wrong with having a well earned ‘swagger’ about ourselves as we engage globally. We have every right to be proud to be American, not embarrassed by it – or apologetic because of it.

          Sorry, long answer. but sheesh I love America yeah, warts n all.

          My answer then is really a question. If you want to see Trump make America great again, then he/we need you more in the primary than in the general. Trump will crush anyone in the general election for all the previous reasons you cite, and because there are millions who carry your same heart.

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          • jello333 says:

            Illinois (Yay! or Boo! depending on how you look at it, eh?)

            Anyway… yeah, I think I see what you’re saying. I guess I should watch the state Rep. primary polls and see where Trump stands. If it’s close, and looks like Donald will need all the help he can get to win (against Bush or whoever) then… yeah, maybe registering as Rep. in order to be able to vote for him in the primary? You know me well enough to realize that feels pretty weird to me. 😉 But seriously, though, if that’s the best way to help the guy… yeah, I may just do that.

            (I just told my wife about this, assuming she’d be like “Are you crazy?” Nope… she says “Yeah, me too.” Whoa! “Hearts and minds”, and all that.)

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            • New Vulgarian says:

              Go for it! We need you!!! I’ve thought so many times about leaving the GOP due to establishment control, but to be able to vote them out, I HAVE TO BE IN! Registration doesn’t cost anything. And don’t give the GOP any money (as if this were a temptation). Register soon to avoid being shut out by deadlines, then leave immediately after casting your primary vote for Trump. It’s kind of like being an undercover agent. This is warfare, and we need every warrior in our little rag-tag band. So I say, “Welcome aboard!” I bet you can stand us just for a little while. 🙂 It’s for a good cause… (And you don’t have to tell anyone, except those who might be persuaded to do the same.)

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            • Fradet says:

              I am a lifelong democrat too – I am changing party so I would be able to vote for Trump in the primary. I am doing it even if he is ahead in polls. I want my vote to count for something.

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            • “You must register to vote at least 27 days before the next election.” (not sure how it works for the primary)
              http://www.dmv.org/il-illinois/voter-registration.php#Register-to-Vote-in-Illinois

              But I say go register as a Republican now anyway and vote for him regardless even if you’re outnumbered. Get out and talk to everyone.

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            • chili palmer says:

              Jello333, maybe you can suggest what, if any, paths exist to communicate with die hard Democrat voters. Most of my relatives are liberal Democrats. All 4 of my brothers married liberal women who are also Catholic and they now have liberal kids. I try to tell them that both parties are in business against the people. They’re happy that I say the GOP is bad, but they won’t consider for one minute not voting Democrat. I’ve tried to explain global warming fraud, but they won’t listen. I wonder if I should just move on to more receptive people. Thanks

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              • jello333 says:

                Most of my friends (outside of this site) are liberal Dems too. But the funny thing is, even if they supported Obama in ’08 (most did), they now all hate him. So while I see some support for Sanders, I see NO enthusiasm for Hillary or the possibility of Biden. When it comes to Trump, they make jokes about him, but I’ve yet to hear any of them outright state they would NOT consider supporting him. I think they’re kinda in disbelief that they’re starting to realize they don’t hate the guy, as they presumed they would. So really, it might not be as hard to get them to come over to the Trump side as it might first seem.

                (By the way, not gonna get off on a tangent, but I personally think global warming is real… HOWEVER I’m not at all convinced that it’s primarily man-made.)

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            • justfactsplz says:

              Make sure you check how far ahead before the primary you must register as a Republican in order to vote Republican in the primary. S.D. is right. The primaries are crucial for Trump.

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            • R-C says:

              Jello, your post made me smile and feel a bit of pride that we Americans aren’t finished quite yet.

              We, all Americans, need you–and those like you/us–to step up and rescue our society. before it’s too late.

              Good on ya!

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          • Dixie says:

            Sundance, I’m registered unaffiliated and can choose my ballot in NC, but it occurs to me that if they can, they wouldn’t be above changing that at the last minute too. Can they do that, change the state from open to closed or modified at the last minute?

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          • kinthenorthwest says:

            SD that is one of the only reasons I stay registered as a Republican…even though the word Republican makes me ill

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          • skipper1961 says:

            SD, If it were not for this blessed site, and your good works, I would have changed my party affiliation to Independent by now. I feel rather foolish for considering it, but either way THANK YOU!!!

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        • Ivehadit says:

          To help here’s what to do: You MUST register as a republican and vote for Trump in the PRIMARIES. That is ALL that counts. 🙂

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        • rufusrumpus says:

          Sounds like me but I have changed to “independent. ” Will change to Repub. to vote for Trump and will write him in for the general if necessary. Being former Dem I’ve always been too self conscious to comment. Last Refuge is a great and reliable source of information.

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        • facebkwallflower says:

          Don’t wait for general election. Get registered as republican and vote Trump in primary. Without this, Trump may not get nomination. Let go and Live Free.

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        • justfactsplz says:

          Are you able to vote in the primary, Jello in your state? Do whatever it takes to be able to vote for Trump in the primary. He won’t be in the general unless he comes out ahead in the primaries. My DH is an independent but changed to republican in order to vote for Trump in our closed primary.

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        • ctdar says:

          You know Jello, I was just wondering that. I bet there are plenty disgusted democrats & independents pizzed they are expected to vote for Clinton. how many might take advantage of the open primates and cast a vote for Trump?
          I bet alot.

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        • Kim Southworth says:

          I registered Republican to vote for Trump in the Primay in my state. We have a closed primary. Trump is a Republucan, I will be Republican.

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      • Ziiggii says:

        you just answered my question from my long winded post below! TY

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  9. Alfred E. Neuman says:

    Reblogged this on The Lynler Report.

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  10. This is my take on the game. LOVE IT!!!

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  11. MissButterfly says:

    I’d vote for any GOP candidate over the Dems, but if Karl Rove’s plan works, and we’re offered up Jeb Bush, I’ll either vote for Hillary or not vote. They’ve insulted us enough.
    Go Trump!

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  12. TwoLaine says:

    Devious Ba$tard$!

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  13. cheekymeeky says:

    “Operation “Cold Anger” begins on October 1st and we will outline how to defeat this plan”.
    Reporting for duty from Ohio with a little army ready to roll.

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    • yohio says:

      Cheeky meeky from Ohio if need my info let me know willing to help may have others willing too. Let me know

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      • jeans2nd says:

        count me in

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        • cheekymeeky says:

          I don’t know what’s being asked of us but it’s so great that we’re all biting at the chomps to do whatever needs to be done. I’m in NE Ohio 30 miles outside of Cleveland.

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          • yohio says:

            You near lorain county that’s me. I’m all in for this and trump

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            • cheekymeeky says:

              I’m in Portage county, do you have a local Tea Party in Lorain? My local chapter is Akron which is headed by Tom Zawistowski who is the bomb. He has a national radio show and if you sign up for his emails they are quite informative.

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              • yohio says:

                Not sure of any local tea party in area. I have questions about primary too. We are all registered independents do we need to switch too republican? I have family who are not registered and haven’t voted, so not understanding part about need to vote first before primary as a republican or independent,what does this mean? If don’t can’t vote in primary? Thanks for.responding

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                • jeans2nd says:

                  There are several different ones in Lorain County, different cities. Centinel2012 is in that area, try his blog centinel2012.com/about, full profile.

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                • cheekymeeky says:

                  You can stay registered as an Independent but you may be challenged by the poll worker. If you are challenged or if the poll worker tells you that you can only vote using an issues ballot, you need to state that you support the Republican party and would like a Republican ballot. As to the new voters, they need to register by February 16 as either R or I and they will be able to vote in the primary. I’m no legal eagle so I hope I got this right.

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          • jeans2nd says:

            Encourage folks to register or change to Indy and vote in primaries – you know the common sense of North Coasters. Keep an eye for the “special election” to replace Boehner, which Kasich will decide. Kasich has also made noises about changing date of primary. WHLO TP talk Saturdays around 10 a.m., Isabella WNIR 7-10 p.m., listen to the Dems – great info, Local media helps alot. Primaries first, tho. What do you all think?

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            • cheekymeeky says:

              Are we certain Independents can vote in the primary? I ask this because a couple of years ago I wanted to switch to Indy and the poll worker told me that I could only change party affiliation on primary day and that I would only be able to vote on issues, not candidates. There is no info on the SOS website that I can find so I sent them an email asking them to clarify. I started searching the ORC and so far all I’ve found is this:
              3503.011 Qualifications of electors for primary elections.
              At a primary election every qualified elector who is or will be on the day of the next general election eighteen or more years of age, and who is a member of or is affiliated with the political party whose primary election ballot he desires to vote, shall be entitled to vote such ballot at the primary election.
              Effective Date: 03-23-1981
              I need to find the written law so I can squash the misinformation I’m seeing on a local forum:
              Q. I never voted in a republican primary but I really want to support Trump!
              In Ohio can any register voter vote in the republican primary? Or do you have to be a registered republican?
              A1. You have to be a registered Republican.
              A2. In Ohio you must vote in the primary of the same party as your last primary vote.

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  14. sundance says:

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  15. SouthCentralPA says:

    Okay, two things:

    1) There cannot be a Clinton v. Bush. There will be no Clinton v. Bush bcs there will be no Clinton.

    2) I cannot say enough about how little turnout support there was last time for Romney. In my darker moments, I wonder if the CofC is deliberately trying to set up the GOP for failure so they can have the Donk/Corporatist candidate they really want.

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  16. Doodahdaze says:

    If Trump whups em all it will do them no good. They are flailing now.

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  17. Rebekah Seibert says:

    Thank you for your website! It’s very informative. Trump 2016!!

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  18. Doodahdaze says:

    The media will probly refuse to air Trump ads.

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  19. Doodahdaze says:

    Hard to even get a good feed.

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  20. Ziiggii says:

    My NC Treepers, make sure to follow LadyLiberty’s blog (I already have) and support her like we support our Treehouse. There are other, probably even more devious things in this HB373 that I missed that she points out….

    “Remember, Team Bush in North Carolina is being led by Congressman Patrick McHenry”

    Yeah that Rep. McHenry; the same one that has been rumored to have been running around the state during the August “vacation” of Congress to find someone to oust Rep. Meadows under the direction of Speaker Cry-My-Eyes-Out!

    And not to be out done by that oversight on my part an even bigger read between the lines…

    In order to make this date change more ‘effective’, one has to have the right pocket-lining measures in place. And so it comes to pass that HB 373 also amends Article 22A of Chapter 163 of the General Statutes to add a new section, § 163-278.8B. Affiliated party committees.

    Here’s the main thrust:

    “The leader of each political party caucus of the North Carolina House of Representatives and the Senate may establish a separate, affiliated party committee to support the election of candidates of that leader’s political party. The affiliated party committee is deemed a political party for purposes of this Article.”

    Interesting. What I read above is ‘the Tea party has to be cut off’.

    This ‘affiliated party committee’ addition has a serious stink to it.

    [emphasis mine]
    I did read this part of the bill and the wording did not sit well at the time, but shrugged it off as “legal speak” and me not being well versed in the “legaleeeze” language. Reading further from Section 3 of the “Conference Report”:

    An affiliated party committee would be treated like a political party for purposes of the campaign finance laws. Under current law, the contribution limitation of $5,100 per election per individual does not apply to a political party, and political parties may accept contributions from registered lobbyists. For limited purposes, if the funds are segregated, a political party may accept contributions from corporations, which other political committees may not do. By definition, a political action committee excludes a political party.

    http://www.ncga.state.nc.us/Applications/BillLookUp/LoadBillDocument.aspx?SessionCode=2015&DocNum=6393&SeqNum=2

    I may be completely wrong here but that reads to me as if these “affiliated party committees” would be able to take money in a way that no other political committee would not be able to do. In essence they are able to create a “new” political party subverting the State election laws of how a political party is recognized and by law, have the ability to put whomever they want on the primary ticket. One last little nugget at the end:

    EFFECTIVE DATE: Sections 1 and 2 of this act are effective when this act becomes law and apply only to the 2016 primary cycle. The remainder of this act is effective when it becomes law and applies to contributions and expenditures made on or after that date.

    Someone help me out here with all the above and interpret. Am I tracking or no?

    I feel like I need to say “Mea Culpa” to the Treehouse! All this time of sitting on my branch I have been looking out at all the “big” trees (the national stage) and lost sight of how my branch (my local community) connects to the bigger trees. I now know my personal roll in the up coming “Operation Cold Anger”. The UniParty gained it’s power(s) by doing this exact thing all over the country; subverting and then establishing their “rules” at the local (State) level and I’ve (ME no one else) been to caught up in the “view” to pay attention whats going on under my own nose.

    I now get what Sharon stated in the Boehner thread:

    “Intellectual and big picture boots-on-the-ground-time is here.”

    It just hit me like a ton of bricks!

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    • Doodahdaze says:

      It is this. The establishment is suffering from a very simple problem.

      The law of diminishing returns is an economic principle stating that as investment in a particular area increases, the rate of profit from that investment, after a certain point, cannot continue to increase if other variables remain at a constant. As investment continues past that point, the return diminishes progressively.

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    • Dixie says:

      I’m just as guilty Ziiggii and I called myself watching and waiting for them to do something devious. I didn’t even know this HB373 was in the works but I don’t think we could have done anything about it anyway since they probably did it quietly so we wouldn’t know. I’m slowly changing my mind about McCrory and his chain gang republican mobsters. Including that one we sent to Congress, Thom Tillis. It didn’t take him long to join the dark side.

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      • Ziiggii says:

        Read the article posted below. It connects Tillis and McCrory to Rove through a PAC called Carolina Rising.

        I am admittedly am guilty for not staying with HB373! I was on it but wasn’t focused on it like I should. I was posting info and updates, but then quit a few weeks back when it went to conference committee. I know my roll now in “Operation Cold Anger”. I’m gonna do better at staying up on local political things to flesh-out in the Tree and see how/if there is any connection up the line.

        There are wolves in the flocks here which are even more dangerous than I ever thought they could be.

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        • Dixie says:

          This is unbelievable….and traitorous. Since that one part mentioned it was just for the 2016 primary, there is more there that we are not seeing.

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          • Ziiggii says:

            Section 3 (affiliated party committees) does not fall under the “only in 2016 primary cycle” it stays forever right now. Meaning the field is set for the next election as well as this one.

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          • R-C says:

            The members “in good standing” of the GOPe are utterly devoted to ONE thing:

            Remaining in power.

            Nothing. Else. Matters. Not “duty”; not “honor”; not “country”. They crave to retain personal power, at OUR expense, and to the detriment of our country if necessary.

            They aim to WIN, at all costs.

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    • Ziiggii says:

      I should ADD: this little “affiliated part committee” thing will live on AFTER the 2016 primary cycle. That Section 3 has no connection to the dates in the first 2 Sections. Section 3 will live on to be the foundation for all election cycles into the future.Seems the GOPe is not leaving our Old North State.

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    • Dixie says:

      ….applies only to the 2016 primary cycle….

      That’s the part that stinks to me. There is more there than meets the eye.

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  21. DancesWithDems says:

    GOP is sending a subliminal message here. Anyone know what is significant about March 15? I’m being coy 95% of this site’s readers are well read enough to know.

    “Beware the Ides of March” (March 15)
    -Soothsayer to Caesar

    Seems fitting as it will be their candidate that is on track for betrayal. Thanks to the likes of observant Treeper’s. Love you all. Sundance you rock.

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  22. splat! says:

    This bill was sent to the Governor for his signature. . . but did he sign it today? Can NC voters contact the Gov this weekend to discourage his approval?

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  23. Dora says:

    Marco is getting ready for the battle.

    Marco Rubio Is Finally Ready to Fight Donald Trump. He Better Hope He Wins.

    http://trumpstump2016.com/2015/09/marco-rubio-is-finally-ready-to-fight-donald-trump-he-better-hope-he-wins/

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  24. Bofh says:

    IANAL but my gut says you’ve stumbled onto something potentially extremely nasty.

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    • Bofh says:

      Bah! This was meant as a reply to ziiggii’s post of 8:25pm!

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      • Ziiggii says:

        This is a message that went out from the NCGOP late last night… I missed it.

        “POISON PILL

        However, a surprise “poison pill” has been added to the bill. The specific section is § 163-278.8B. Affiliated party committees.

        Should this section become law, the majority and minority party leaders of each chamber will be permitted to set up competing state Republican and Democratic Party committees. These party committees run by caucus leadership will be able to accept unlimited party PAC money traditionally directed through the state parties. Caucus leadership will be able to spend this money; however they see fit, unbound by the party rules traditional party leaders are constrained by. They will be able to insert themselves into primary contests. These committees will enjoy the right to use the names, abbreviations and symbols of the state parties and generally exercise trademark rights. It is an outrageous addition to the bill.

        CALL TO ACTION

        In a word, these “affiliated party committees” aim to make the state political parties irrelevant. This is an 11th hour addition inserted by caucus bosses […]”

        http://tarheelteaparty.org/?p=17836

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      • DancesWithDems says:

        Don’t fret. It was even better in and of itself. Any level of frustration at this point is understandable. “Boehn” there done that is gone by Halloween? I want someone to give this MF a DARN GOOD REASON TO NOT SHOW HIS FACE AGAIN. OR ELSE. PERIOD. How deceptive is a guy that plans his retirement on the deception of his voters? Eff you Has Boehn. And don’t you cry tonight.
        -Axl

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  25. Cameraman says:

    Interesting poll featuring only Trump, Bush & Carson.

    Of GOP voters:

    Trump 37%
    Carson 28%
    Bush 25%

    With all candidates it comes out at:

    Trump 30%, Carson 18%, Bush 10%, Fiborina 8%

    It’s by IPSOS – which is a reputable pollster – Sept.19 to Sept 23. More details on Breitbart.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/24/poll-establishment-25-percent-support-gop-15-percent-among-swing-voters/

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    • Doodahdaze says:

      They know. They are in deep Kim Chee. They will bury this one.

      Liked by 2 people

    • Bofh says:

      If accurate, wouldn’t this suggest that the splitter strategy is costing bush more votes than it is costing the “outsiders”?

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      • Sentient says:

        Looks like it to me. I’d like to see a GOP poll with only Trump vs Bush.

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        • jello333 says:

          I’d like to see a poll dealing with the General election, with some of the possible match-ups.

          “If the General election was between any of these pairs of candidates, who would you vote for in each pairing?”

          Clinton vs Trump
          Clinton vs Bush
          Clinton vs Carson
          Clinton vs Fiorina

          Sanders vs Trump
          Sanders vs Bush
          Sanders vs Carson
          Sanders vs Fiorina

          Biden vs Trump
          Biden vs Bush
          Biden vs Carson
          Biden vs Fiorina

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      • SharonKinDC says:

        Hence Walker’s plea for others to fall on their sword and remove themselves from the race.

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      • sundance says:

        Bofh, what you have to keep reminding yourself (took me a long time too) is that the GOPe plan was schemed LONG BEFORE Trump entered.

        Meaning, when you look at these types of results you have to look at them and think about “what if Trump wasn’t in”?

        Remember they created this plan in 2014 without even a sniglet of consideration that Billionaire Donald Trump would actually do this. So if you take Trump out of the polling, where would the race be today if he never entered.

        After that kind of thought, then you look at the current situation and say: ok, well this is where it is now, what will the GOPe do to get BACK on track?….

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        • Elspeth says:

          Sundance,

          Since my post from this thread is gone, I’ll ask you a question:

          The net result of Trump, so far, is to have knocked out of the race two of the four strong candidates: Walker and Perry. Do you think Walker and Perry would still be in the race if the GOPe plan had gone on as planned, without Trump scooping up all the votes? Do you think Cruz would have much higher numbers at this point without Trump?

          I believe that, without Trump, all four of those candidates–Walker, Perry, Paul and Cruz–would not only be in the race but would have had higher numbers by now than they have had or currently do. Your analysis of the GOPe plan makes it clear that a popular candidate with early momentum was deliberately obstructed by the GOPe flooding the ballot with party players (splitters) and by holding proportional primaries early on. This was to cause Walker, Perry, Paul and Cruz to run out of steam and money by or just after Super Tuesday. Then, this left the field open for Jeb to score with “winner take all” primaries on and after 3/15/16.

          Trump has only accelerated the GOPe process, not prevented it from moving forward. The strong candidates are dropping off before a single primary, leaving only the splitters and party players on the ballot. If Trump stays in long enough to get Cruz (and the struggling Paul) to drop out, the field of play is entirely under GOPe control. The leadership can play with these positions at will.

          My belief is that Obama/Jarrett are smashing Hillary with the email scandal for primarily personal (and perhaps some political) reasons. Wall Street/CoC read the writing on the wall and is having the GOPe use Trump to absolutely insure that no one but Jeb will get the GOP nomination now that Hillary is on a downward spiral. The safest way to do that is to get the “dangerous” candidates out before the primaries begin. This way the delegates can be apportioned in whatever way the GOPe likes.

          If I am correct, my tripwire will be Trump withdrawing from the race just after knocking Cruz out.

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          • keebler AC says:

            Walker and Perry are not strong candidates in of themselves. These two were also never going to make it against Jeb and the GOPe. Don’t blame Trump.

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          • R-C says:

            I’m sorry; I just don’t see Trump playing “2nd Fiddle” to anybody. Nothing in his entire career points to that–he is a “go for the throat” fighter, and winner. Trump intends to win the presidency, convincingly, which is how he has lived his entire life.

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  26. joanfoster says:

    I will say it once again. Never in my life of voting Republican have I seen the leader of the pack so maligned and excoriated by the national party. Now, N.C. has fallen in line with a Republican controlled legislature. Well, I know some of these clowns and they will have to answer in the general election. I am disappointed, shocked, but honestly not really surprised that Mr. Spend Your Money Large, Gov. McCrory, also former mayor and big spender in chief in Charlotte, who found himself in the back pocket of every interest group, professional sports team owner i.e., Jerry Richardson and Michael Jordan, et al., and float the fluff grifter in NC would back the Rove roadmap. Hope Trump spends more time in N.C. He is spending lots of time in S.C McCrory, like Bush, never saw a spending bill he did not fall head over hills in love with.

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    • Ziiggii says:

      McCrory is so GOPe and you are correct in his spending here in CLT while Mayor. The light rail in the southern part of the city is jokingly known around town as the “McCrory Line”. It’s official name is the “LYNX Blue Line” and is all of 10 miles in length at a cost of… “Revised estimates by early 2007 called for the project to be completed at a final cost of $462.7 million, more than double the original estimate of $227 million.”

      Nothing says GOPe like big government spending!

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    • Dixie says:

      INFINITY

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  27. jeans2nd says:

    Should any still doubt the Uniparty –
    Columbus (Ohio) Dispatch – “Through the first half of 2015, the two biggest political action committee donors to Ohio Senate Republicans…were unions.” http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2015/09/10/unions-hedge-bets-with-gop.html

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  28. dsp says:

    Let us know what can we do.

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  29. dsp says:

    Trump is going to have to get up off of his money at some point and buy some legal help.

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  30. Belle says:

    @SD
    The Washington State Republican Party would like to move our Presidential Primary from May 24, 2016 to March 8, 2016. The deadline to make this decision is October 1, 2015.

    “The Washington State Republican Party has been pushing for an early Presidential Primary in order to give the voters of our state an influential role in the presidential nomination process. In the past 20 years, the Presidential Primary has always been moved to February or March – so why not this year?!” Susan Hutchison-State GOP Chair

    Thanks for all that you do!

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    • sundance says:

      Yeah, most states have the same statutory date of October 1st for primary date changes. That’s partially why we can’t fully engage a counter action until after that date.

      In the interim if Washington State changed to March 8th that puts y’all in the “proportional” primary window. I’ll have to dig around your legislative stuff to see how it impacts, but from broad overview all the proportionals lend to help Jeb Bush.

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      • kinthenorthwest says:

        Sadly the west side will overload the east, and then who is to say how many of the Illegals will try and vote illegally.
        H3LL Columbia Basin College just got a 2.5 Million Dollar grant for Hispanics, which I can assure you are probably over 90% anchor &/or illegals. .

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      • Sentient says:

        Maybe Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Oklahoma, Tennessee & Texas can all move theirs back to March 15th. 😉

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      • Sandra says:

        Yes yes, proportional helps Jeb because it makes it more difficult for any of the other candidates to fulfill the Rule 40 requirement and it also makes it more difficult for any of the other candidates to reach the 1,236 delegate threshold to win the nomination outright, therefore it increase the possibility of a brokered convention. We must avoid a brokered convention!! Fortunately brokered convention is the only way Jeb’s going to win, and if Trump’s popularity during the primaries is anything close to what it is now, the chance of a brokered convention will be quite slim.

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      • deedee says:

        This is why Sarah Palin didn’t run as a Republican cause the fix is in

        She is going to run 3rd party

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  31. mossback says:

    I would not give the RNC a bottle of year old goat kurine, let alone any money.

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  32. mossback says:

    I would not give the RNC a bottle of one year old goat urine let alone any money.

    Liked by 1 person

    • joanfoster says:

      “One year old goat urine”? Why mossback, in some cultures that’s comparable to the finest Chardonnay California has to offer. Man I just love the visual.

      Liked by 2 people

    • kinthenorthwest says:

      I think I just very nastily told off one of their Robo caller people. He had a Very heavy foreign accent & once he said something about computer I figure it was the same sham that calls me at least once a day. Teach them to outsource the work. .
      Still might be, but is says the number is RNC.

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  33. The Boss says:

    The RNC arguably is a continuing criminal enterprise. I’d love to see Reince being perp walked on his way to appear before Judge Roy Bean IV.

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  34. Ziiggii says:

    Here is a huge connection between McCrory and Rove
    Carolina Rising is McCrory’s “hitman” on senators

    The PAC was originally set up to counter the anticipated drive-by bias against the new GOP regimes on Jones Street and Blount Street. But it managed to get deeply involved with the Thom Tillis Senate campaign AND Karl Rove-associated operations in 2014.

    The interesting thing in this latest case? You have a PAC, funded by conservative donors looking to defend GOP gains in Raleigh, now attacking GOP incumbents in the legislature.”

    http://dailyhaymaker.com/?p=11998

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  35. Curry Worsham says:

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  36. sundance says:

    What’s wrong with this tweet?

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  37. jameswlee2014 says:

    Try as they might, it’s not going to work. They could move the voting booths to Saskatchewan and Jeb would still only get 6%. These are the same geniuses that managed the McCain and Romney campaigns. They aren’t that clever.

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  38. UpsideDownFlag says:

    Trump Instigram

    realdonaldtrump An updated POLL tracker (with all polls thru the weekend) reveals I maintained a double digit lead at 34.8%. Not only that, my poll #’s are double that of 2nd place candidate.

    See the poll chart here:

    GO TRUMP !!

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  39. Trust No One says:

    What’s wrong with this tweet?

    Conservative Outsider Leader

    Outsider??? Wrong.

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  40. b says:

    Trump has NC in the bag. He probably knows, but maybe he will swing by.

    Dear Trump, go a little ways out of the city to any venue that can accommodate so you get the real people and not CARY, Containment Area for Relocated Yankees

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    • Sentient says:

      60% support is “in the bag”. 30% is still tenuous when there are 14 weasels who can drop out and support the GOPe candidate (like Walker did).

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    • Dixie says:

      b…if you are from NC, go back upthread and read what the NC Legislature has done. They passed a bill HB373 to make some underhanded changes to the General Statutes, specifically affiliated party committees.

      In a word, these “affiliated party committees” aim to make the state political parties irrelevant. This is an 11th hour addition inserted by caucus bosses. Lots more info above.

      It has been passed but not signed by McCrory yet. We are going to email him and ask him to veto it.

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  41. California Trumpeter says:

    For all the effort to try and get JEB elected I see things like his tweet today and I think he is actively trying to lose…

    John Boehner dedicated his life to public service. Bringing the Holy Father to Congress was a fitting cap to a great career.— Jeb Bush (@JebBush) September 25, 2015

    //platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

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  42. RINOKiller says:

    This is like wrestling storylines back in the 90s with the NWO……..change the rules if things aren’t going your way

    Karl Rove has become today’s modern day Eric Bischoff!

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  43. What am I missing here? If Trump can maintain a solid lead over Jeb and Jeb’s vote is split by Rubio, Cruz, et al, doesn’t Trump benefit from those winner take all states?

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  44. Father Thyme says:

    The primary date change in North Carolina was put into play by Walker’s people ( long before Trump got into the race) to help him overcome losing in Florida. Of course if Trump runs the primary table, and that looks increasingly likely, none of these maneuvers will help anyone…except Trump.

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  45. Plain Jane says:

    How is Carson fitting into this whole plan.

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  46. mel alvord says:

    Sundance, when the 2016 election is over and Trump becomes our President will you tell us who you really are if it is not to dangerous for you and the crew? Hope so!

    Liked by 1 person

    • jello333 says:

      Actually it’s gonna be risky for Sundance and others of us here to EVER “go public” if for no other reason than the GZ case. As George himself found out with crazy Apperson dude, there are still plenty of Traybots out there who will NEVER stop hating people like us.

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  47. Steve says:

    great job thanks for awesome info

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  48. Monday, September 28, 2015, everyone one who apposes HR 373 need to call Governor McCrory at (919) 814-2000 and tell him that you want him to veto this bill! He is aware of the fact that the majority of the county parties are against this bill, but it’s time for us individual citizens to stand up and tell him to, “Just say NO” to it!

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