RNC/GOPe Rule Changes and How They Impact The 2016 Presidential Primary…

All current key state polling, including Florida, confirm the viability of the GOPe Road Map “splitter strategy” as it was designed in 2014.  Many people are now aware of the splitter strategy itself, so let’s take a look at the “rule changes” which work hand-in-hand with the GOPe road map itself.

GOP candidates 2 mashup

In 2014 the RNC/GOPe apparatus made modifications to the 2016 presidential primary specifically because the chosen candidate, Jeb Bush, would need more structural support in 2015/2016 than Mitt Romney 2012.

One of the lesser known changes was campaign finance change which the RNC and DNC essentially hid in the December 2014 CRomnibus bill (continuing resolution government funding).  The changes allow the party apparatus to collect SEVEN TIMES more money from individual party donors – SEE CHART HERE.

On the campaign side – whereas Romney’s 2012 Road Map garnered 25-30% electoral support, internal polling (2014) showed Jeb Bush steady with around 15-20% support. As a consequence of Jeb’s weakness the RNC rules needed to compensate.

Reince-PriebusGOP candidates mashup

Change #1 – The RNC apparatus made calendar date modifications where primary elections held prior to March 15th 2016 would be proportionally assigned. (link) This helps well funded candidates (establishment) –in it for the longer term– and is a hindrance to less funded (grass roots) candidates who need wins and momentum to garner money and support.

[…] In 2014, the RNC approved selection rules that govern how each state’s delegates are portioned out from the primaries. Under one of the changes, states holding their primaries between March 1 and March 14 will have their delegates doled out proportionately with election results, a change that will likely stymie a movement candidate.

States that have primaries on or after March 15 will be winner-take-all states. (link)

There are FIFTEEN PRIMARY states between March 1st and March 14th.  This change  makes it very hard to win a majority 50% of any of those early states primary contests. With multiple candidates in the field, and apportioned delegates, the race is extended in favor of the lower-margin/long-term candidate (turtle) who has a lot of money.

Change #2 – With rule #1 in mind. The RNC changed the required number of state overall delegate wins to be eligible for convention nomination.

RNC RULE #40 changed the mandatory delegate total from FIVE state wins to EIGHT state wins. (link)

With proportional delegates in all races from March 1st to 14th (15 States), this makes winning states outright more difficult.

Fifteen state primary races are held under the mandatory proportional rules. It is entirely possible that most, if not all, of those 15 states will not be won by anyone with a margin of 50%+ You can win these states and yet they don’t carry toward the convention (rule #40).

This rule change also extends the race, again favorable to a well-financed long-haul campaign with strong national infrastructure.

Officially, it’s Rule 40 in the RNC handbook and it states that any candidate for president “shall demonstrate the support of a majority of the delegates from each of eight (8) or more states” before their name is presented for nomination at the national convention. (article March 2014)

Change #3 – All state primary races on/after March 15th would be “Winner Take All”. Meaning whoever won the most district delegates wins all the delegates. This is where Florida (3/15/16 – 99 delegates) and Ohio (3/15/16 – 66 delegates) and Illinois (3/15/16 – 69 delegates) become more valuable; all on the same date March 15th.

These rule changes also made Florida GOPe Road Map lynchpin:

Tampa Bay Times – That’s why, after Bush signaled he was likely to run, Republican legislative leaders set the 2016 Florida primary for March 15 — and made the primary winner-take-all, rather than a primary in which several candidates could divide the state’s 100 or so delegates proportionally. It was a gift to Bush, to ensure he could count on winning a big pile of delegates in case he did not dominate earlier contests. (link)

However, none of these rule changes anticipated a dominant base-broadening non-Jeb candidate like Donald Trump.

The rules, like the primary road-map underneath them, were designed with two or three potentially favorable candidates all vying for the non-Jeb vote. Anticipated adversaries were Ted Cruz, Rand Paul and possibly Scott Walker or similar. However, the primary opponent was always going to be a non-establishment candidate (ie. Ted Cruz type).

Jeb’s splitter team strategy was created with these rules and opponents in mind. Donald Trump was NEVER anticipated – hence the urgency: Trump simply must be destroyed.

The biggest factor scaring the political elite regarding Candidate Donald Trump is the scope of the base of support.  He pulls support from “Blue Dog”-type Democrats and conservative Republicans as well as independents.  Trump’s broad appeal is firm for both men and women, as well as socio-economic blocks and educational levels.  He also polls very well amid all races and “other” demographics.

The scope of Trump’s base is a paradigm shift for both the DNC and RNC who are used to micro-targeting, division and special interest voters.   This level of support, if retained, would crush any opponent on the Democrat side of the equation.   As Sean Hannity and Mark Steyn share in this video clip – this is a historic shift in politics:

To aid in sharing an understanding, there are several links to aspects of the overall construct below. 

The rules we just discussed were made/affirmed in 2014 while we were establishing the “tripwires” –  Ultimately who and what the GOP goal was/is trying to do becomes increasingly clear when you identify the consolidation of power within the RNC apparatus.  This appears intentionally constructed to stop a GRASSROOTS candidate from achieving victory.

It’s all part of their GOPe Roadmap.

update-1 Reference and Resources – (links to internal MSM references are contained within prior outlines):

RNC Rule Changes

RNC Rule Battles

  1. Following The Money
  2. The GOPe Roadmap
  3. ♦ The Roles of The Players – “The Splitters
  4. ♦ How each candidate is aligned in the Roadmap
  5. ♦ Arrow #1 Trump Hits The Super-PACs – The GOPe Achilles Heel
  6. ♦ Arrow #2 Trump Hits Bush – Inside The Wall Street Fortress
  7. ♦ Arrow #3 Trump Cuts Off Rubio/Bush switch – The GOPe Switch
  8. ♦ The Rick Perry Tripwire Exposed – DC Super-Pac
  9. ♦ Jeb Bush Super-Pac Will immediately spend $10 Million
  10. ♦ Proving there is only one political party in Washington DC
  11. ♦ Why Support Trump – Part One (The GOPe Ruse)
  12. ♦ Why Support Trump – Part Two (Stop being played)
  13. ♦ Why Support Trump – Part Three (Intellectual Details)
  14. ♦ How To Defeat the GOPe Road Map
  15. ♦ Current Polling Exposes – the Ohio, Florida, Texas, Virginia, New York Splitters
  16. ♦ Rush Limbaugh Discusses/AffirmsThe “splitter strategy”
  17. ♦ The Biden Paradox – Trump Winning Means Clinton Must Be Removed
  18. ♦ Salem Media Communications (GOPe Media Arm) Launches Attack
  19. ♦ Open Letter To GOPe – The Conservative Frustration
  20. ♦ Why The GOPe Will Never Stop Attacking Donald Trump

We have a couple of remaining tripwires which could be triggered any moment now:

1.) Joe Biden entering the race (predicted back in August).

2.) Members of the race who are not vital to the GOPe apparatus dropping out. (Scott Walker, Rick Santorum and/or Rand Paul most notably)

It is quite plausible with all the current turmoil amid the various low polling camps, that between now and October 1st we could see an even more bold contrast amid the Team that is specifically in the race to help Bush (8 remaining party “splitters”: Fiorina, Rubio, Kasich, Huckabee, Christie, Graham, Pataki and Gilmore), and the non-party supported candidates of Trump, Cruz and Carson (although it preliminarily appears Carson has peaked).

Bobby Jindal, Rick Santorum, Scott Walker and/or Rand Paul could slowly drop out, and the GOPe road map would still remain viable for Jeb Bush and his team.  At the very least you could expect some campaign shake-ups.  However, much of this ultimately depends on the Super-PAC financiers.

It would seem the next batch of important polling (due this week) will determine if Wall Street pulls the trigger on Biden’s entry.  If Trump retains a sizable lead, they’re simply running out of time.

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147 Responses to RNC/GOPe Rule Changes and How They Impact The 2016 Presidential Primary…

  1. Shirley says:

    If they push Bush on us, I will not vote for him. Will write in my preference.

    Liked by 9 people

    • CoffeeBreak says:

      Hi Shirley. 🙂 I also will not vote for this third Bush shamefully foisted upon us (many people wrongly equate this to staying home. I have never sat out a vote). Jeb nor the other loser will not get my vote.

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      • Betty says:

        And you have to remember that “this third Bush” is NOT being “shamefully foisted upon us” anonymously – Jeb Bush is behind it.

        He knows he has no support, and has always known it. So he intrigued and colluded to steal the choice from us, the American people. He has a little bit of shame, I guess, since he tried to normalize what he planned to do when he told the world that he might have to lose the primaries in order to win the general. Those traitors who conspire with him against us, the American people: Fiorina, Rubio, Kasich, Huckabee, Christie, Graham, Pataki and Gilmore and Perry, need to know that there is always somebody who remembers, who stored a file, a video or a picture and will bring it out when needed to remind us all afresh of your perfidy.

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        • amjean says:

          I never thought of it that way, however, you are correct; the ones who are
          part of the scheme as placeholders for Jeb Bush are traitors to the
          American people and the presidential process. Perhaps initially they didn’t
          realize they were being used. NOW, however, there is no excuse for them
          not knowing. The ethical thing to do would be to bow out of the race.

          Regardless, they should be angry about being used by the GOPe.

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        • dizzymissl says:

          If any of them know what is going on and don’t speak up, they should have no part in Trump’s administration.

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        • winky says:

          You are right …this is not just a scheme but a SCAM …Lets not forget the master planner ROVE and the sleazeball Bush who could only win an election by stealing it. I wonder I this was also a plan with Hillary when this all began because they are one and the same……I liken this scam to an ahlete who is paid to throw a game or a jockey who throws a horse race but millions times worse…….I have mentioned this manytimes here how this needs to be exposed…..I have a dream…..a news conference where trump and Cruz come forward and tell all….wouldn’t that be something?

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          • fred says:

            Winky heres what it is like. In football they bet over an under. There is way more money rolling through Vegas for a game than anything the league has going. Hundreds of millions are bet. Gee think that is enough to change an outcome. Yes but it can’t be obvious. So the favored team still wins but at the end of the game the kicker misses the field goal…accidently on purpose. That means you lost your money as the point spread was 4 but the missed field goal makes it so you lose. Your team wins but you lose your money… The house wins by influencing the kicker to miss.

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    • IntoTheFray says:

      I’m with you Shirley, no more dirtbag politicians.
      Trump2016, one way or another!!!

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    • Charles Collector says:

      We must be unemotional and rational about this–while Bush is not my first choice. I would vote for Minnie Mouse if she was on the Republican ticket rather that see Clinton, Sanders, or Biden in the White House. If all the Republicans who stayed home in 2012 because Romney wasn’t perfect had voted, we would have NOT have Obummer as president now. THINK ABOUT THAT!!!!!!

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  2. Jeff Thomas says:

    “This Trump thing can be explained very simply. He is the alpha male and our country is suffering from beta boy complex.” ~ Julie Brewington

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    • notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital says:

      Beta some as pansy bullies…..

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      • notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital says:

        Ugh. Same….

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      • waltherppk says:

        Beta Boys are wannabee “authentic self” feminist females or proxy “would be” (if they only could be) women, special creatures who shouldn’t be unfairly or insensitively discriminated against just because they haven’t yet been genetically gender transformed or grown female credentials. They aren’t yet purrrrrfect. But hey, at least they’re trying. They keep singing Somewhere Over The Rainbow …..it’s so sad ……everybody have a heart.

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    • doodahdaze says:

      Oliphant article. He is in the know as far as democrats go.
      Exclusive: Democratic donors urge Biden to challenge Clinton in U.S. 2016 race
      NEW YORK/WASHINGTON | BY LUCIANA LOPEZ AND JAMES OLIPHANT

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      • California Trumpeter says:

        “John Maa, a member of the Democratic National Committee’s national finance committee who is among the signers, said he was contacted this week by another finance committee member to see if he would support Biden financially.

        Maa replied he would be happy to raise funds for Biden but that donors were becoming impatient. “Time is precious,” Maa said.”

        Oh yes “Time is precious”. To quote Sundance “It would seem the next batch of important polling (due this week) will determine if Wall Street pulls the trigger on Biden’s entry. If Trump retains a sizable lead, they’re simply running out of time.

        ” The letter’s significance goes beyond a simple declaration of support. It appears aimed at pressuring Biden to decide soon. “We are ready if he’s ready,” they write.”

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    • flyanddive says:

      Is Biden a tell that the establishment is capitulating on fighting Trump? I say this because alone, I don’t see Biden able to beat Trump. This means Biden will be entering the race as a loser, unless the establishment is planning some kind of false flag operation. I think things are about to get very ugly. When the establishment starts to see their power slipping, they will lash out, they can’t control themselves.

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    • amjean says:

      The democrat leadership may have Biden in mind, however,
      I do not think Biden himself wants to run for president.
      He is still grieving over the passing of his son and may not
      have the emotional energy for the campaign. If so, who
      would be up next?

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      • notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital says:

        Biden should honor his son by not running.

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      • My theory? They boxed themselves in on Jeb and Hillary. They HAVE to go with Biden, who can’t beat Trump once Biden’s senile carcass is rolled out. So they have one last option.

        Psy-op. It’s the only thing Biden has managed somewhat successfully.

        If the pre-election operation fails (guaranteed it will involve guns, possibly Latinos), and Trump is elected, expect a second operation before January 2017. Given that Sandy Hook I was targeted to arrive in an election-proof window under Obama’s control, and needed considerable preparation to exploit, this does, too. I believe the anti-Trump actor recruitment is key. They need people who will never talk.

        This will be Obama’s final abuse of the government. Patriots inside and outside .gov need to do the right thing, when the bad orders come. Consider getting in on the ground floor IYKWIM. But get ready. Biden is far more of a desperation move than most people realize.

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        • woohoowee says:

          The thought has flitted across the back of my mind that those in control now would see the whole country in flames before they will step aside. Just how many Ferguson, MO’s and Baltimore, MD’s can TPTB can instigate and manipulate all at the same time?

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          • One thing is for sure. They’ve tested the waters. They inched forward with Trayvon, and pushed it from there. After #BLM met with Jarrett just recently, I expect they’re beginning coordination of their big event.

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  3. Primary voting is key! Get yourself & all people in your state to register Republican & cast your Vote for Trump!

    Go Trump!!

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    • Jeff Thomas says:

      like
      !! some states have open primaries . I just moved to SC and they have an open primary . Formerly from occupied territory of Maryland !!! there the primary is not open .

      GET all you can to be able to vote FOR TRUMP in their perspective primary . People are lazy so stay on their assets .

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    • Cameraman says:

      Someone registering a domain name is a sign of someone registering a domain name. It takes 3 minutes and 3 dollars to do it.

      I assume this 3rd party team would only be announced if Trump’s nomination seemed certain? In which case it would be dismissed as simply being a Trump hate group and, if it ever got that far and if they are lucky, would poll roughly around Ralph Nader levels.

      I’m assuming there’s lots of quotes from Dick Cheney and Tom Cotton on how they are excited to be betraying their party? Last time I heard Cheney he seemed 100% on board with Trump on the Iran deal and defeating ISIS.

      The truth? Trump upset Kristol and he’s throwing his toys around the playpen.

      Outcome? Non-event.

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      • wanthetruth says:

        Tom Cotton represents some people here doesn’t he? He’s so staunchly a patriot would he ever go along with this?

        Does anyone know what his opinion of Trump is?

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    • JRD says:

      Fact: Cheney’s heart could never survive what is needed to run an effective presidential campaign.

      Who is Kristol kidding?

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  4. TwoLaine says:

    Interesting letter from the FEC to Keep the Promise I about the mysterious $500k disbursement to the iCarly Campaign.

    http://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/fecimg?_201509160300004892+0

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    • Meyer says:

      Thanks! Looks like we won’t get any semblance of an explanation until 10/21/2015 . . . and even then I am sure it will be cloaked with political double-talk verbiage.

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  5. California Trumpeter says:

    Every time a tripwire is crossed I hear this song:

    Oh, look this “Democratic Donors Urge Biden to Challenge” Hillaryhttp://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Democrats-Joe-Biden-Hillary-Clinton/2015/09/18/id/692305/

    and the tripwire goes “Bing, Bing, Bong Bong” ..

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  6. Dora says:

    LIVE STREAM . . .

    Donald Trump Speech at Urbandale High School Homecoming in Iowa, Sept. 19, 2015

    Watch live video of Donald Trump’s speech at Urbandale High School[] homecoming in Urbandale, Iowa on Saturday, September 19, 2015.

    http://www.shallownation.com/2015/09/18/video-donald-trump-speech-at-urbandale-high-school-homecoming-in-iowa-sept-19-2015/

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  7. nwtex says:

    Fat chance…but whatever.

    ~~~
    “This is the ad that could sink Carly Fiorina’s campaign”
    September 17

    In 2010, Fiorina was running surprisingly close to California Sen. Barbara Boxer (D), who was struggling in a strong election cycle for Republicans nationally. Then, Boxer ran this ad focused on Fiorina’s time at the helm of HP.

    The commercial notes that Fiorina laid off 30,000 workers at HP while feathering her own nest (the ad’s narrator says she tripled her salary) and buying a “million-dollar yacht” and “five corporate jets.” It went up on TV in the middle of September and effectively ended Fiorina’s chances

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/09/17/this-is-the-ad-that-might-kill-carly-fiorinas-campaign/

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    • notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital says:

      Start spreading the news…..

      Liked by 1 person

    • Uniparty’s left hand stabs Uniparty’s right hand!

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    • judyw says:

      Thanks for posting…it is a great memory jogger for some like me who had totally forgotten her real story w/HP…I knew about it and followed it during her rocky tenure there but lost those details over the years that she was not anywhere close to my radar. Reading here resurrected those memories and inspired me to research her overall history…and lose the favor I was beginning to grant her in my candidate considerations as I listened to her “revised history”.

      I think this ad speaks directly and specifically to what Trump meant as her “persona”. Put in context of seeing Carly on TV and knowing what he knows about her HP history and likely much more, it is reasonable to believe he was looking way deeper than physical attributes into what she represented.

      The RS reporter wrote that Trump saw Fiorina on TV and remarked, “Look at that face! Would anyone vote for that? Can you imagine that, the face of our next president?”

      Another conversation with Trump’s description of his plane as bigger than Air Force One and it being featured on the Discovery Channel as the world’s most luxurious jetliner, the reporter wrote turned out to fact check as not being bigger than Air Force One and was featured on the Smithsonian Channel. Neither of these were a big deal and just shows he deals in generalities when appropriate and likely focuses attention on specifics only when they matter.

      He also wrote that in this, as in much of what Trump says, it’s more about the broad strokes than the details. For me that is the key to the “face comment”. The media got very busy, very quickly to pull that out of what I considered a great article written from the perspective of the reporter following Trump closely for 10 days.

      Instead the MSM could have focused on this paragraph from the article which sums Trump up pretty well but they obviously saw in it the conflict with their agenda:

      “In all the hysteria, however, what’s often missed are the qualities that brought Trump here. You don’t do a fraction of what he’s done in life — dominate New York real estate for decades, build the next grand Xanadus for the super-rich on the far shores of Dubai and Istanbul, run the prime-time ratings table for more than 10 years and earn a third (or sixth) fortune at it – without being immensely cunning and deft, a top-of-the-food-chain killer. Over the course of 10 days and several close-in encounters, I got to peer behind the scrim of his bluster and self-mythos and get a very good look at the man. What I saw was enough to make me take him dead serious. If you’re waiting for Trump to blow himself up in a Hindenburg of gaffes or hate speech, you’re in for a long, cold fall and winter. Donald Trump is here for the duration — and gaining strength and traction by the hour.”

      Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/trump-seriously-20150909#ixzz3mCbhOLUC

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  8. stringy theory says:

    I will never, again, pull the lever for Bush, regardless of his opponent. And ditto for any GOP candidate unless he has a “proven” record of being conservative. I’m done with that party. Fortunately, this time Trump is going to kick the GOPe’s backside and also the dem’s. Go Trump.

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  9. Dora says:

    I don’t think he will be laughing much longer!

    Carson jokes about Trump dropping out of race

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/18/politics/ben-carson-donald-trump-muslims/index.html?eref=rss_latest

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  10. GumboPot says:

    I love these updates. TYVM

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  11. I’m noticing more people pushing Rubio. Case in point:

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  12. The RNC rule changes are deeply concerning, but so are changes made to election laws in certain states, regarding how candidates can get on the ballots in the first place, or be excluded from the ballots as 3rd party candidates should they fail to garner a nomination by a major party.

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  13. New Vulgarian says:

    http://atr.rollcall.com/rand-paul-makes-first-payment-kentucky-caucus/

    Rand Paul probably won’t be dropping out any time soon. Just a couple hours before the deadline, he paid his required $250,000 deposit on a Kentucky Caucus to be held on Mar. 5.

    This caucus severely restricts voting access to KY GOP, shortening voting hours from 12 to 6, and cutting number of polling places drastically. Some voters will have to drive to another county to be able to vote. This plan also increases filing fee for candidates to $15,000 – expensive for Kentucky’s 8 (I think) delegates.

    Rand had said a couple months ago that he had already given the KY GOP this $250,000, but the money didn’t seem to be anywhere. He would not inform anyone where the bank account was that supposedly held this donation. Paul also claimed over a month ago, just before the state party central committee voted on the caucus plan, that he would be getting another $125,000 from a big donor, which he would turn over to the party to further cover the $500,000 cost of the caucus. The state party only has $170,000 to their name and can’t afford this mess. The state party is supposed to be supporting Matt Bevin in the governor’s race, wihich will be decided this November. But Bevin is an outsider, and beat their establishment candidate in the primary by 84 votes, so they aren’t too concerned about siphoning off money and effort to help Rand.

    If Trump doesn’t want to spend $15,000 to get on the KY ballot, who should I vote for to further the Trump cause?

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    • On what do you place your concerns about Trump not being willing to spend a paltry $15k to get on the KY ballot? That’s “Trump Change” for a man who has BILLION$ in his personal fortune.

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      • California Trumpeter says:

        I think he (or lady vulgarian lol) means it as a joke, as in: Throw some money to run against Rand for his own senate seat in KY .To beat him at that special caucus just set up for Rand so he can run in both elections. Not the Presidential primary ballot.

        I would suggest writing in “why are you not giving the money you’re wasting on this money to Matt Bevin?” but that might not fit…

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      • New Vulgarian says:

        🙂 “Trump change”… I like that!

        Rand has become a real freak show, but Paulbots will walk on broken glass to vote for him. And the caucus format gives them a format to try to bully others into doing the same. Rand’s counting on a low turnout in which only his loyal followers show up. He’s wearing pretty thin around here, and Trump will make mincemeat of him, IMHO.

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    • Sentient says:

      I don’t understand this, but hope that Sundance can opine on whether Trump is – or will be – on the ballot in all states.

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    • JeremyR says:

      John says she’s a moderate, but that’s only true if she is compared to Bernie Slanders, Hitlery Clinton and Barry Soetoro on one side, and McInsane and Gramnasty on the other.

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    • Betty says:

      That is a great link. Here is some of the information I stored for use when ever I get a chance:
      Fiorina: Master’s thesis advocating greater federal control of local education

      Carly Fiorina’s oft-repeated claim to be a “lifelong conservative” was only plausible in the universe of NRSC staffers who recruited her in the first place.
      …She endorsed Federal funding of embryonic stem-cell research for “extra” embyros.
      She endorsed the California DREAM Act, which grants in-state tuition to illegal immigrants.
      She refused to endorse California’s Proposition 23, which suspends the job-killing AB 32 climate-change law.

      Fiorina also strongly supported Marco Rubio’s amnesty plan that even he claims not to back anymore, endorsed cap & trade and attacked Ted Cruz for being willing to shut down the government to stop Obamacare.

      How do you trust Fiorina on immigration, small government issues, taxes, pro-life issues, global warming or to even try to kill Obamacare after that?

      None of this means Carly Fiorina is a bad person, a liberal, a stalking horse or anything else. If you like Carly Fiorina, support her, but at least know what you’re really getting. If you’re backing Carly Fiorina, you’re backing a 0-1, establishment moderate who was an epic failure at the one thing that is supposed to qualify her for the presidency. On the other hand, Fiorina does seem to be pretty good at debating.

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    • jeans2nd says:

      And so it (the takedown) begins…

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  14. Kauf Buch says:

    I wonder…if the document “The Rules of the Republican Party”
    can somehow be interpreted as a contract
    (NO snark reference to Da Pledge) so that,
    in the unfortunate event the GOPe does a dirty number on Trump
    in the backrooms/bowels at the Convention,
    Trump could sue the living daylights out of the RNC,
    as he did with Univision.
    Although I would hope Trump could surpass all the required hurdles by that time,
    THAT would be Popcorn Time!

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  15. JeremyR says:

    I have not read all the rules. My question is this, using Florida as an example. If say Rubio won Florida 27%, Trump second 26%, Jeb third 16%, if Rubio later dropped, would Florida go automatically to Trump, or if Rubio endorsed Bush wold his delegates then go to Jeb?

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    • kinthenorthwest says:

      From what I understand they can throw their votes to whomever.
      H3LL just look at what the DNC did in 2008—Obama didn’t win the primary even with the pre-convention games the DNC played.

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  16. kinthenorthwest says:

    Trump says he’s not ‘morally obligated’ to defend Obama against claims
    Washington (CNN)Donald Trump on Saturday said it is not his job to correct supporters’ claims about the President, defending his decision not to take issue with a man who disparaged Muslims and said President Barack Obama is not an American.

    But Trump did not dispute the man’s allegations made at a town hall event this week, and added that if someone criticized him to Obama, there would be “no chance” the President would come to his defense.

    “Am I morally obligated to defend the president every time somebody says something bad or controversial about him? I don’t think so!” he tweeted Saturday morning.
    http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/19/politics/donald-trump-obama-twitter/index.html

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  17. 2x4x8 says:

    thanks for putting it together SD, so easy to just send out one link to the public and its all there for the searcher, now time to do our part

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  18. Josie says:

    This splitter strategy is interesting. Thanks to Sundance for explaining it so clearly. I have a hard time wrapping my head around why they think it would ever be successful in the general. Has it ever? I recall Yeb saying he had to lose the primary to win the general. He knows he has very little support amongst the voters.

    I recall several million republicans didn’t vote at all last time leading to Oby’s win. This strategy has been used at least since McCain (didn’t work), then Romney (also didn’t work). So, why do they think we are going to run out and vote for Yeb this time?

    I have never heard people be so committed to not voting for Yeb than I heard them say it about Romney or McCain. Yeb will not win the general. It’s a foregone conclusion to me that if Yeb gets the nomination, even more people than who sat home for Romney will sit home against Yeb. I will be one of those people for the first time in my life. I’ve voted in every single election and attended every caucus since I was eligible to vote. I will sit home this time. I’m done. I’m not alone.

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    • doodahdaze says:

      The GOP is compromised. First the communists took the democrat party. Now they are an inch away from taking the GOP. The Pope is communist. The UN is communist. What to do? The outlook is not good.

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    • doodahdaze says:

      I would vote for another party before I sit it out. There are many of them. I always vote.

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      • Josie says:

        I am having difficulty with my vote being a sign of support to the corruption of the RNC. If Yeb wins, we win nothing different than if Hillary wins, with the exception of fewer crimes committed. But who cares anymore? No one gets prosecuted or held accountable in any way. And, the corrupted are rewarded for their corruption. I hear yr point and I mostly agree. I’ve just never felt so taken advantage of by people who claim to have my best interests at heart. They don’t.

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      • Kauf Buch says:

        ABSOLUTELY!
        NOT voting makes your “voice” as silent as those who don’t give a hoot and those with their heads in the sand.
        In certain cases, a “protest vote” is a legitimate alternative, be it write-in or third Party.

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      • Trust No One says:

        I agree. There will be too many down ballot issues I feel I need to vote on so I won’t sit it out. I’ll just vote another party. Probably Libertarian or maybe that wacko Green Party out here in LaLa land. Not that my measly vote counts for anything here. These fools never see a Tax or a democrat they don’t vote for.

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    • So, why do they think we are going to run out and vote for Yeb this time?

      Like I’ve said before….they don’t. They know Jeb is a loser, just like they know giving democrats 30 million new voters via amnesty is a loser. They are perfectly fine with democrats controlling things because they don’t really disagree with them on anything, but as long as dems are in control,repubs can get what they want without getting the blame. They are every bit as invested in fundamentally transforming this country as Obama and the dems.

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  19. kinthenorthwest says:

    Sorry if posted prior
    This post-debate poll will horrify the GOP establishment

    http://www.vox.com/2015/9/19/9353865/republican-poll-debate-fiorina

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  20. jeans2nd says:

    “If Yeb wins, we win nothing different than if Hillary wins” this is the whole point. Take some time and read more of Sundance’s writings. The whole point is to arrive at Hillary-Jeb, precisely because Jeb is Hillary is Jeb. Both benefit the CoC, Wall Street, et al. Mr. Trump is the only way to break the equation. Their predictable outcome – which is in the math – is upended only by Mr. Trump, who thankfully appears to be a patriot.

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  21. itsy_bitsy says:

    We are watching the “Obamazation” (using his same tactics) of the Republican National Party! They want total control from a central force. That force will strike out and squash anyone who does not go along with their policies of “the day” (which seem to change on a whim of the leadership).

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  22. Cameraman says:

    Even Mark Steyn claims Fiorina is an outsider candidate. Shouldn’t he be a little better informed?

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  23. Gag.

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  24. czarowniczy says:

    2016 – the Battle of the Entrenched Dynasties – and I do mean nastys.
    The RINO Elite had Trump sign an agreement that when they screw him he won’t say ‘OUCH’, leaving me to wonder if he’s actually agreed to their transparent, self-serving perfidy or he’s just taking the heat off until he opens up come convention time. They’ll be sippin’ on that Chivas Regal Royal Salute and apuffin’ on those Cohibas expecting their personal picks to rule over the lite beer and cigarillo crowd. Meanwhile The Donald storms the floor with his supporters in tow and marches the RINO establishment off to the blocks. OK, sort of a far reach but it does help one sleep more betterer…

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  25. jakee308 says:

    I doubt that after sinking a quarter mil to be able to run for both Senator and President that Rand Paul will drop out. Too bad as he’s a waste of space.

    The more I read of the road map, the angrier I get and the more likely that I will have even less to do with the Republican Party after 2016. Only until a 3rd party is formed will it be necessary for those willing to buck the system will the designation of R be useful to enter a race.

    More needs to be done to birth and support a 3rd party to create some competition for the effectively Uniparty we have now.

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  26. Juan says:

    As I understand it, RNC Rule # 40 was changed at the 2012 convention. The originator of the change came from Romney’s councel at the time, Ben Ginsberg to protect Mitt’s 2012 convention & to protect him (wishful thinking) for his re-election bid in 2016. The rule can & will be changed prior to the 2016 convention since it’s doubtful any candidate will have a majority in 8 states. It’s possible, but certainly unlikely any of the GOPe candidates can even come close. Unless the field is pared down to just a few, the “winner take all” after March 15th will be a moot point. It’s unlikely any candidate will receive the 50% + in those states to capture all the delegates & they will be doled out proportionately.

    With all that in mind, you can see what a tough row to hoe it will be for Trump to lock up the nomination under the current rules. That’s why it’s imperative for anyone that supports him to register & vote in the GOP primaries. He may not prevail under the current rules, but should be able to finish well above any of the also-rans. This would make it nearly impossible for the RNC to manufacture a rule change to get their establishment candidate of choice nominated. The convention should be packed with enough Trump delegates to thwart any RNC hanky-panky. If enough people become mobilized, Rove & his whiteboard along with his cohorts can be sent packing for good.

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    • sundance says:

      Yes, rule #40 was changed in 2012. However that change (by Team Romney) was to assign 5 states as the threshold for automatic national delegate entry into the nomination.

      Rule #40 was later changed/modified during national RNC meeting in 2014 to increase the mandatory national delegate assignment from 5 states to wins in 8 states.

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  27. Ron Hyatt says:

    I am voting TRUMP. GOPe UNIPARTY, you have a problem,..

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  28. Ron Hyatt says:

    Just to be clear. I am not voting for ANYONE ELSE BUT TRUMP. I WILL BE AN UNDERVOTE ON THE TOP OF THE BALLOT AND WILL WRITE IN TRUMP. No money to GOP. Death to the GOP. You have done NOTHING for me. FU.

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  29. Ron Hyatt says:

    Hey, Rinse Pussy, you have a Major Problem.

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  30. conservalicious says:

    Question for Sundance,
    Can the GOPe make further changes to benefit their chosen candidate or are things locked in now?

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    • sundance says:

      National party rules must be changed prior to the end of year. However, I believe that States can change party rules even after primary elections because the election designates delegates who then go to state assembly (some caucus) and then the national convention. The rules governing the delegates can be changed willy nilly.

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  31. fb274 says:

    In 2012 at the Republican Convention it was Romney, Boehner, the RNC Pre-bus with Romney’s attorney Gingsberg who came up with the proposed changes for 2016, as Sundance indicated, to restrain the grassroots movement, but more specifically to make certain a particular Governor by the Name of Sarah Palin would not have the financial means to launch a grassroots campaign on limited resources and win in the early states. Oh yes, the GOP elitist/establishment plan way ahead. In 2012 they were not aware of Sen. Cruz’s ability to win against the Establishment’s favorite Dewherst, which the Bush, Rove, Perry and their clans all backed. They were certain Dewherst would win. Now, in pops Donald Trump and has upset their apple cart.

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  32. I am curious as well, conservalicious. But my joke response would be that they should give TRUMP the steering wheel, or sell deck chair spots and ice cube salads at 3 dollars each!

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  33. davidfarrar says:

    If JEB can’t pull out of his death spiral by mid-October, he and Fironia will switch places by Florida.

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  34. RINOCRAT Watch says:

    The fully Demorat infiltrated RINO party is ramping up the liberal swing of running 60’s Moderate/Liberal Democrats and outright fall guys like Dole and McCain.

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