In this video [see below], presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy is essentially describing the “splitter strategy” CTH has discussed and outlined in granular detail for years. Essentially, a process where the billionaire donors, hedge fund managers, corporations and multinationals – what we define as the Sea Island group (SIG), control the private corporation known as the RNC.
On this facet of his commentary, Ramaswamy is correct. However, from there he gets things wrong.
Yes, as we have said, the Chris Christie exit is part of the continuum. Remember, within mutually aligned motives the candidate doesn’t need specifically to be an active participant; they only need to be looking out for their individual interests, usually financial.
When the ‘time to exit’ tap on the shoulder is received, it comes via a key backer saying, “there’s no longer a path.” The money stops, and the candidate suspends their campaign. That’s how the process works.
Did Christie get that tap on the shoulder, at the specific time needed to retain the “never Trump” effort, thereby creating further support for Nikki Haley? Yes, absolutely – again, that’s how it works.
The SIG moved all their poker chips to Nikki after they realized the weird behavior of DeSantis meant he was no longer a viable option. When Brian Kemp began creating distance with DeSantis, that’s when the shift to Haley began.
Immediately preceding the shift to Nikki Haley, and specifically because DeSantis was not gaining traction, the evangelical brothers Mike Pence and Asa Hutchinson also received their tap on the shoulder and withdrew from their Iowa effort.
Within the plan of the SIG, Pence/Hutchinson were only camped in Iowa to pull a coalition of evangelicals together to hand them to DeSantis. But that part of the effort never gained traction. As a consequence, the SIG shifted to New Hampshire, where their allied Democrats could assist.
Ramaswamy is correct in the statement that the billionaire donors within the SIG want a head-to-head between President Trump and Nikki Haley, but only because that’s all that remains of the collapsing roadmap. Where Ramaswamy is wrong is that when Haley loses, the SIG/Never Trump group will shift to supporting Biden (Newsom). That’s the UniParty. Ultimately, in the big picture, the foundational effort is not about supporting DeSantis or Haley, it’s about stopping Trump.
The hubris of Vivek Ramaswamy in this video then makes everything else he says ridiculous, and also explains why he cannot gain traction.
Who is Ramaswamy to say, “our America-First movement“? As if this is something he created. :::spit::: Right there, in that statement, is where we notice who Ramaswamy is. He is trying to co-opt the MAGA Trump movement for his own motives and intents.
There is only one person who holds the allegiance of the American working class and the America First movement. That person is President Donald Trump. President Trump alone will decide later who will take that pragmatic economic-based MAGA movement forward – after his four-year term. This is not that time.
At CTH we accept things as they are, not as we would pretend them to be.
If Vivek Ramaswamy was authentic to his words, if he really wanted to advance the America First movement, he would accept the futility of his position and endorse Donald J. Trump. His unwillingness to do that says more about him, about his [¹]’glowing‘ motives and intents, than anything he might say about Nikki Haley and Ron DeSantis.
WATCH 01:33 minutes:
.
[¹] I have stayed generally neutral on Ramaswamy for a reason. However, he is now sending the exact signals I would expect to see if an intelligence community operator was nearing the end of his usefulness. It’s called ‘Linguistic Programming‘. ie “they will never allow,” etc.
Too much in common with Obama, comes out of nowhere with no real background beyond a few years. His entire history is about 4-5 years. Too smooth talking, nothing rattles him. He has been groomed by some very good teachers but they cannot teach “genuine.” We don’t need another lightbringer.
One BlightBringer was enough.
And enough is too much!
Is Haley qualified to assume POTUS as neither parent was a citizen at her birth. With the Lightbringer, the mom was a citizen. In other words, these illegals coming in through the southern border and delivering a child allows them to become POTUS? That is jive!
She is not qualified.
Nor is Da Vek.
Nikki’s parents were still citizens of India when she was born. A child inherits citizenship from their parents. Nikki is not a natural born citizen.
obama’s father was a British subject, obama is not a natural born citizen, either.
A natural born citizen is one who is born within the borders of the Country to two US citizens. This is the definition by Natural Law — which cannot be changed.
Only man-made law can be changed.
The Constitutional requirements for president can be changed through amendments, but Natural Law cannot be changed.
The Framers were quite insistent that the executive be free of foreign influence.
Are you daring to suggest that Obama was illegitimately chosen (note use of the word, chosen) to act as POTUS? Interestingly, both Hillary and Donald were trying to make that case in 2008.
Yes, I’m daring. Lol. At least with this, I’m daring. I’m more reserved in other regards.
As in other ways, and with other bodies, money and power speak very loudly.
You are correct about Obama’s father being a factor. It was never about a fake birth certificate from Hawaii. Unless of course Barack’s father was not Obama and was Frank Marshall Davis.
Oh, my gosh, you are so correct!!!
The BC was a red herring. The issue was always that obama’s father was a British subject, making obama a dual citizen!!!
People intentionally put the focus on the BC and tried to make it about where obama was born.
You are also correct that if Frank Marshall Davis actually was obama’s father, obama was a natural born citizen. So funny cause the dems couldn’t reveal that.
The result is that neither the dem nor the repub parties/uniparty can make an issue out of the Natural Born Citizen requirement because both parties violated this Constitutional requirement.
“Nikki is not a natural born citizen”.
Yes. Yes she is. Nikki is a natural born citizen, of India. While the laws have been bent enough to give her naturalized US citizenship at birth, because of her parents status at her birth she can claim here birthright citizenship and allegiance to India at any time. This is the scenario that our founding fathers did NOT want to see in someone holding the office of president, thus the prerequisite of US citizenship of the parents before the child is born. The parents would have first severed all claims to another country, this preventing their child from making any claims.
The half-breed Blightbringer’s father was not a British subject. If you look at photos of them side-by-side you will understand that Frank Marshall Davis, communist, self-proclaimed journalist, amateur photographer, family friend of his maternal grandparents, is in fact his real father. I suspect that had he been sufficiently vetted to the point that his eligibility was in danger, he would have generated a birth certificate that admitted as much.
Many say this. If true, it would mean obama was a natural born citizen. It would also destroy his so-to-speak ‘legend.’ He would just be another biracial kid, one of many in this Country.
Agreed.
He was in Pharma….that says enough for me.
You omitted the really big part that he has in common with Obozo, that being, he is not eligible to become president due to his citizenship, though Obozo did have a slightly better claim due to the fact that his mother was a citizen. Nikki is in the same, an anchor baby with a big ambition!
Be it good or bad Much smarter than obama.
Like many others here I have always been suspicious of Vivek. When a young, charismatic, lively guy comes out of nowhere and says all the things you wanna hear it’s probably a trap.
What sealed the deal for me though was seeing that old town hall type event pop back up. The event was for some democrat. I forget who the event was for but there in the crowd were Vivek and ol Pete bootygig. Not only were they there but they were chosen to ask questions of the candidate. Now you tell me. What are the chances of two young men both being picked to ask their question to a major candidate on live tv and both those men later run for president themselves? There are no coincidences in politics.
He’s a plant.
Edit: just tried finding the footage and I made a mistake. They were both picked to ask their question but at different events. My conclusion remains though.
Trump came out of nowhere (politically) and said all the things I wanted to hear and ALL the things we NEEDED to hear.
Trump had a track record of career and philanthropy. He’d been in the news and on tv for 20 plus years.
And he’d previously run for president.
At least 40 years.
He was photographed with Hillary at his wedding.
Everything people are saying about Vivek was said about PDJT in 2015-2016.
Vivek is saying all the right things and he is getting young people to notice the issues and pay attention. That’s a good thing.
He knows he has no chance to win. He is helping get the policies on the ballot.
He’s been at it for a long, long, long–did I mention long?–time.
Donald Trump at 1991 House hearing on U.S. Economic Recovery: Depression vs. Recession | C-SPAN.org
Trump’s life has been an open book for the world to see for many decades.
Ramaswampy, not so much.
Trump had his toe in politics since the 80s. He was on a minor party Pres. ticket in 2000.
John Glenn, Ronald Reagan, Al Franken, Fred Thompson…
Trump was testifying in US House in 1991 about fixing the economy.
I was suspicious of Trump too. He was on good terms with the Clintons, had donated to tons of Democrats, and looked to be wrecking the GOP for Hillary the way Perot wrecked the GOP for Bill.
It took me a while to figure out that he WAS wrecking the GOPe AND Dems, FOR us, not AGAINST us.
Came out of nowhere?
No, no, no.
Even his presidential musings were known back in the ’80s.
A pharma-bro who tried to sell surveillance software to the gubmint?
Hard pass.
Freemountainman, I would love to see the footage of Vivek, asking his question!
Here’s a news segment that covers both questions.
That first paragraph you wrote sounds like my ex husband 🤣
Indian mob.
Why not take the Oval Office? They’re taking every other industry with visas…
I firmly believe that Vivek is gearing up for a 2028 POTUS run and getting his positions staked out early. In 4 years he can learn a lot and polish his deliveries.
All the more reason to wake the hell out of those that refuse to stop slobbering over him.
Look at Vivek’s company Roivant. The financials show losses for the last 3 years and no taxes. Is that the kind of business leader we want? Vivek is a spinner, his values are a MAGA mile wide but only an inch deep.
He still will not be able to run for president according to the constitution.
Ramaswampydingdong
Was that necessary?
I,believe it was and a good one too!
Lol
We all knew Vivek was using parts of Obama’s and Trump’s speeches in his speeches and he was just ‘too smooth’ for me, but I kick myself for not seeing what SD surmises. In hind sight, Alpha-Agency all the way. Thank You Sundance!
Wait a second..
I don’t think Sundance or anyone else, (me included), has not even suggested that Vivek is a plagiarist; “using parts of Obama’s and Trump’s speeches”..
I’m just going to relax, sit back, watch and wait.
Like I wrote earlier, the truth always comes out, whether wanted or not.
Vivek is good at drama; he’s very smart and talented. He thinks quickly on his feet and can talk his way into and outta situations.
Doesn’t mean he is a winner.
We know President Trump is a winner and I’m not tired of winning, winning, winning, YET!
He did copy Zero’s shtick about being some skinny guy with a funny name, back to back they sounded verbatim, and, of course, nauseating.
I never said SD suggested Vivek was a plagiarist; I came to that conclusion all on my own by watching Vivek’s speeches, having viewed many of O’s speeches and all of Trump’s speeches. Anyone with ears and a memoey can come to that conclusion on their own.
Globalist American Empire doesn’t know what to do about the Chud’s getting all uppity.
Seems to me that Vivek is more of a Trump surrogate than a Trump opponent. He’s been there at every turn blasting every one of those cowards, bloodying his knuckles allowimg Trump to chill and focus on his rallies and the dog and pony show that the lawfare clowns are propping up for the masses. Not sure why people don’t just sit back and watch the show? You can root for Vivek and vote for Trump when the time comes. We all know who’ll be the last man standing if the commies don’t find a way to destroy the entire country beforehand and we don’t have massive terror attacks across the country to take the place of the BLM Spring that occurred in 22. Or a new disease doesn’t pop up, Or the Chinese invade Taiwan, or the Russian nuke the Ukraine, or Hezbala nukes Isreal or the dollar collapses or illegal aliens take over and run us out, or China decides to let us know they’re really running the country or another Obama pool boy dies or….
Or an emp etc etc.
A smorgasbord of deadly options. Time to prepare!
Been a lurker on the site for YEARS so I’ve seen a slow creep.
I think folks are moving from support/concern to some degree of paranoia. There is nothing to indicate that Vivek is anti-Trump or pro-establishment. There is nothing to indicate that your “gut” feeling is correct. The simple fact of the matter is that as the walls close in on Trump (unjustifiably so, in my view) people are getting more nervous, enraged, and….paranoid.
Do I believe Nikki is an establishment tool designed to try to wrest control of the GOP from Trump….absolutely.
Do I believe Trump is a better torch bearer than Desantis at this moment….of course.
But it appears clear to me that Vivek believes the following:
1) Trump is going to be the GOP nominee one way or the other
2) If Trump wins he will play a vital role in this adminstration
3) That there are forces aligned against Trump that seek for him to be eradicated from public life.
I think he is trying to do 3 things at the same time:
1) I think he wants to be the MAGA standard bearer when Trump gives that role up
2) I think he wants to create backlash against the system by alerting voters to the danger Trump is in, because it is much better coming from him than Trump himself (Trump has to maintain total confidence that everything is going to be ok). In other words I think he is the tool in the body used rally the white blood cells to protect Trump from the establishment infection.
3) I think he wants to be a big part of any future Trump Adminstration.
And from that framework EVERYTHING he has done, since day one, makes total sense.
To me Vivek says the things Trump wants to say, but can’t because of perception and political reasons. I think Vivek is like Trumps
Trump= Id
Vivek=Ego
Tucker= Super Ego
Don’t get me wrong, I disagree with him on certain things. I also think he had some wrong takes on a few things where he has changed his mind. But I’m trying to take him in totality.
Not that it should matter, but I am a 2 time Trump voter and of course will vote for him in both the primary and general
But remember when the lamp was rubbed 3 time ramaswami popped out of nowhere like obambi.
What’s that old saying?
“Just because I’m paranoid it doesn’t mean they’re not out to get me”
What was deemed paranoia a few years ago, now it’s the truth.
I actually don’t disagree here with the idea that what was deemed paranoia once, has been proven.
The difference here is that you need some sort of evidence. Lets take COVID. There was ample evidence prior to, and during, COVID to believe that:
1) there was a lab leak….
2) to believe that this death concoction wasn’t actually a “vaccine”, and
3) to believe that this was being used as a political tool.
We had evidence of all of this. And what we were told was to ignore that evidence. As Sundance says, we were told to pretend.
In Vivek’s case it’s the opposite. What we have is evidence that the man is:
1) generally aligned with Trump in philosophy
2) deferential to Trump as movement figurehead
3) positive in emotion an deference towards Trump
that now we’re being asked to ignore THAT evidence in order to believe he’s some sort of establishment plant.
And it is the request we ignore THAT evidence that makes it paranoid to continue to believe it, when there is nothing to point to which backs it up.
I’m much more open to the idea that Pence was there to sabotage Trump than I am to think Vivek is. Pence actually did things that hurt Trump. Vivek hasn’t. His only real critique of the President is that Trump isn’t Trumpy enough. Frankly, of all the ways someone could be “critical” of Trump….that’s the best possible scenario. It’s the least harmful critique possible, and frankly one that he’s generally RIGHT about. Trump should have been more Trumpy the first time around.
What I think is more likely is that Trump wanted a dual strategy.
1) He is a former President and he understands the power of presumptive formality. He understands that if he assumes he’s won, we’ll ALL assume he’s won and that’s that. So he stays above the fray, which I think is why he isn’t going to these stupid debates. But he also realizes he needs to get his message out….
2) Enter Vivek. Vivek is essentially a Trump surrogate running to spread the gospel in places Trump doesn’t want to lower himself to going
He enters the race preaching, essentially, MAGA. His first target is Desantis who was polling very highly at the time. After the first debate I think we saw him shift to Haley and if you notice he started going in on her pretty roughly…and continues this to this day.
Now what’s more likely? That Vivek has cut a deal with Trump, to behave this way, or that he’s playing 9th-dimensional chess and is fooling everyone in such a way that after this election he guarantees he’d have ZERO political careers….at the age of 38? Cmon. He has his own money, he doesn’t need establishment money. If Trump is so smart and smells a rat, why isn’t he torching Vivek daily in the press? Why is Vivek the only guy Trump seems to go VERY VERY easy on? Because he’s stupid and he doesn’t know how the game works? No. Trump isn’t stupid. Vivek isn’t stupid. I think they’re playing a game together. They might not be direct tag team partners, but they sure as hell are going out of their way to avoid any conflict. And that’s not because Trump is being fooled by this kid.
Again, relax.
This is paranoia. This is a group of people (those of us who voted Trump), who have been through so many fights on behalf of Trump, that we’re starting to see things that aren’t really there. Like a boxer who has fought so many times, he thinks you’re holding up 4 fingers when you’re only holding up one.
I’m open to changing my mind in light of evidence. I’m not seeing it….
vivek is a tool, a well rehearsed and slippery one at that
Trump needs him as a wingman like i need gout
President Trump stated Vivek seems to like him. He said maybe it’s one of my character flaws, but I tend to like people who like me.
I believe President Trump knows the score and knows exactly who Vivek is. President Trump plays the game of being able to benefit from what Vivek says (trashing the other candidates) while not fully embracing him. He’s enjoying the benefit, while still keeping him at arm’s length. He can dump him at any time if and when Vivek pivots. I believe President Trump knows there will eventually be a pivot.
Vivek came out of nowhere, is well polished and well spoken (like others who were groomed), made his money in Big Pharma pump and dump schemes. Big Pharma is a cesspool that needs to be cleaned up as much as the DC swamp. Big Pharma was exposed during Big Covid.
I don’t trust him, but I enjoy the show he is putting on. I can do both at the same time.
I tend to drop the first letter of of “pharma”.
I just can’t get him being named a Young Global Leader by the WEF out of my head!!
it is my understanding that he is NOT WEF, but he did accept a college scholarship from George Soros’ brother when he was in school. Apparently WEF puts people’s names on its list and then you have to sue to have it removed if you do not accept.
There is no way I would ever equate Vivek’s quick authentic wit with some groomed pre-programmed political operative. That’s sn absurd comparison
I don’t equate Vivek’s quick wit with some groomed pre-programmed political operative.
I equate my belief that he is a groomed pre-programmed political operative with my comment that he is a groomed pre-programmed political operative.
A quick review of his background reveals all I need to know as many commenters here have pointed out. He’s from the club.
I take what he says as meta data that the club knows everything about MAGA and they have programmed him to say it. It’s similar to what we saw with DeSanctus.
They know MAGA. We know they know. Still, they pretend not to know.
Agree. Some of the same people also saying the same thing over and over.
I am glad to see someone other than Trump fight for MAGA. Vivek schooling reporters on their ignorance and bias is a Masterclass in how to fight back.
Food for thought, that Ramaswamy is actually part of Trump’s arsenal, having an underlying agreement with Trump to continue to vocalize MAGA principles. Frankly, you really couldn’t ask for a better spokesman…he’s sharp, bright and articulate.
Vivek looks like an opportunist to me. All about Vivek, no solid principles.
We’ll “relax” when WE decide to relax whether it’s now or never. Long winded appeal you’ve got there…be a shame if we just used our own common sense and discernment.
Wow Barb, angry much, Cowgirl?
The man is literally running against Trump.
Quit your gaslighting.
Open your eyes.
Quit denying the reality in your face.
Stop disparaging others because you refuse to see.
Right back atcha Jim in TN, right back at ha
Thankyou PTC, I could not have explained Vivek any better than you just did. I believe Vivek is a rare combination of brilliance and common sense, and someone who has a clear vision of how things exist in reality.
Vivek knows he isn’t going to win in 2024, but he’s getting his name and his beliefs out loud and clear. He never speaks negatively about President Trump, and repeatedly says Trump was the best president of his lifetime.
He is a self made billionaire, he doesn’t need any one else’s money. He has no reason to take bribes or be forced to do or say as others tell him. None. Therefore he is a very authentic person. Like him or hate him Vivek is Vivek.
Vivek has a huge and important political future, and when Trump’s next four years are over (Pray he wins) Vivek is the only one I see at this point in time who has the same vision and the same wiley intelligence as Trump to carry our torch forward and permanently disable the deep state. And he has said in no uncertain terms that dismantling the deep state is absolutely critical for our constitutional republic to survive.
Blah, blah, blah, blah.
Influence operations are futile!
Thank you PTC. Very cogent analysis.
Personally I am neutral on Vivek. I will watch, watch, and watch some more.
For me the proof is in the actions, not the words.
As far as “coming out of nowhere” everyone has a first day some time or other.
Exactly! And what I was trying to relay. Vivek is polling below the current establishment pick for emperor and below the 2nd choice. He has 0 chance of gaining 30 points to even come close to Trump. He will most definitely not be the nominee. This guy is a genius and he knows what I just said because I barely graduated high school and he not only runs but builds billion dollar tech and bio companies. Some actually help the people and go against the grain of the globalists. Do you think this guy is going to waste his time and money on a losing game? Seriously? He’s got better things to do if that was the case. This guy is the youner more articulate MAGA representative who is leading the war on the establishment
While the real Commander in Chief coordinates his campaign from the top. It doesn’t matter where he came from at this point. He’s not going to be the nominee, end stop. But he is answering the questions that the establishment throws out against Trump and does it in a positive way. Like PTC said, Pence and the rest are full blown traitors to this country and The People, that evidence is clear. Vivek has done absolutely nothing to hurt Trump and props him up at every opportunity at this point. The neysayers are muting the messenger plain and simple. As long as Vivek stays on this path and in the end endorses Trump, he is Trumps message and his voice to the masses that are not quite sure but want the country to get get back in the game of leading the world instead of passing the baton to China. Take into account that Trump had a seriously strong relationship with India and he was shifting the China trade to them and it kinda makes sense. Also, Trump needs to reach that younger social media addicted generation, what better way to do it? So just sit back and enjoy the chess game that the MAGA contingent is playing, because it’s all we got beside the destruction of our nation to pay attention to.
And if Vivek was not running he would have no platform or exposure to make the speeches
that he has been making – speeches in which he is making very cogent and relevant points.
I agree with MAGA minuteman when he says,
‘I don’t trust him, but I enjoy the show he is putting on. I can do both at the same time’.
I need the t-shirt.
Hello fellow kids!
🙂 You know you are over the target when…..
Lol. Beat me to it. You are the master.
Is there a new approach to the treehouse, no other opinions need join the conversation?
Nobody said you could not join the conversation, just expect country club Republican thought to be challenged. Meaning most of us have been going along to get along for 50 years and seen things get nothing but worse.
V.R represents the unholy union of the academy, and financial interests using the power of the state to rob the rest. What you are witnessing is a complete collapse of trust across institutions rolling slowly across a lifetime.
🎯
It is said that the freaks come out at night.
So do ‘spooks.’
I was just reading the comments and thinking the same thing. You seem to have a lot more paid trolls in the comments nowadays as compared to 10 12 yrs ago. You know YOU’RE over the target when your blog has assassins lurking amung the Treepers🇺🇸🦅😂
“I think folks are moving from support/concern to some degree of paranoia.”
Are you talkin’ to me??
There’s just something about being a pair of noids that feels really healthy!
Please. The guy acts like a snake and smells like a rat.
You can appreciate his crafted “helpful moments” and still know him for what he is.
He’s a deceiver, cloaked in light. Lots of them around, with varying levels of skill.
Trump’s supporters already know he is in danger. There is nothing to warn them about. Vivek would better spend his time on warning independents/etc. about this threat he mentions, but he is not. Instead he keeps going on about how he needs to stay in the race to prevent Haley from being the nominee. How does this help? He describes the splitter strategy, which has been used before, which is obvious, while conveniently ignoring his plea with Trump supporters aimed at doing the same; Trump’s delegates aren’t going to magically go to Vivek if something bad happened to Trump.
He knows this. That is why Trump already knows his VP choice, and it ain’t Vivek.
i have seen clips of some of his campaign stops. The crowds are Bidensized without circles. He has no grassroots support. So who is throwing the money in the ring for him, MAGA folks? Nope.
you lurked for years and a mere sentence in to your debut post you accuse everyone on the board, including SD, of paranoia
sometimes is better to keep silent and let people think you a…
shoot, i forgot the rest
Absolutely in agreement.
Go back to your home planet then. The locals can deal with our politics as we see fit.
Wolverines patrol the perimeter. And are good at sniffing out weasels.
It’s cuz he’s brown. Yea I said it. If he were a white dude name Vince Rodgers you wouldn’t see half the badmouthing.
Oh sure, “a white dude” like Mike Pence. That’s some white to trust there. haha
Or maybe you meant to use /s.
Freud was a fraud and a pervert, so using his perverted theories (i.e., there is no id, ego, or superego) throw out your whole comment.
Acceptance of reality, not what one wishes for reality is wisdom. But Vivek in most circumstances, has enhanced Trump’s position in his enlightened opposition to Haley and DeSantis….both of which are part of the deep state anti-Trump crowd. Regardless, it will all shake out soon.
Contrary to Sundance (I don’t quite believe I just said that), I thought Ramaswamy has been doing a good job as a henchman – attacking Haley, Ron & others, more-or-less on behalf of PDJT.
“At CTH we accept things as they are, not as we would pretend them to be.” I’m pretending, but it wouldn’t surprise me if Ramaswamy has been planted for a purpose.
My objection to Vivek Ramaswamy has always been, if he is such a fan of Donald Trump and Donald Trump’s policies, why is he running against Donald Trump?
It made me very suspicious of him, even more so with his background in Big Pharma, Democrat votes, and his Soros Foundation Scholarship.
Was he attempting simply to take votes away from President Trump? Or was he flattering PDJT with hope of a VP or other position in his administration to be an embedded trap for the future?
Exactly 💯 Belle
👉There should be NO other Republicans running against President Trump and those that have and are prove there is an antiMAGA motive whether it’s money 💰, power 🔋 or protecting the Globalist, their running against President Trump is the ultimate proof 👈.
Yes. Especially at this point, why doesn’t he drop out and support Trump? No, we aren’t paranoid. We’ve just learned the hard way not to trust everyone who says they’re on our team. Something feels off with Vivek and his history doesn’t reassure me. There’s nothing wrong with trusting your gut until more substantial evidence proves otherwise.
He will drop out after Nikki and Ronnie drop out
Because there’s a non-zero chance that Trump isn’t alive on election day. And if God forbid that happens, we want to be able to pick from one of the candidates that ran. He is that guy. If Vivek wasn’t running, he wouldn’t be that guy. Get it?
That’s right, if he wasn’t running he wouldn’t be in the position to be a future candidate
If Vivek thinks we MAGA patriots will “pick” one WEF-approved spook who apparently made his fortune in Big Harma, just because he sounds swell on the TEE VEE, he had better think again.
Vivek is *not* even a natural born American citizen. He is constitutionally ineligible to be President of the United States.
again, not claiming I know, but according to previous talking points, both his parents were naturalized citizens when he was born – not sure if that makes him a “natural born” citizen, but it seems to
No, they were not.
Immigrated in ’83, had this kid in ’85, no possibility they were naturalized.
Ineligible.
If he weren’t running in the primary “against “ Trump, no one would know who he was. He is dealing major blows to the other candidates while being vocally supportive of Trump. He has an important future.
Not every single person running for office is a phony POS, just most of them. And mostly those that haven’t made it in the real world
Liz Haley called him scum, she got a dead cat bounce.
His wife is currently on a charm offensive looking for the same.
A dead cat bounce is a temporary, short-lived recovery of asset prices from a prolonged decline or a bear market that is followed by the continuation of the downtrend…. It is an example of a sucker’s rally.
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/deadcatbounce.asp
My former Republican Club just rebranded as America First SWFL Caucus as a result of the Republican Party of Florida changing the state charter while removing Christian Ziegler from office.
There is a belief there will be a wave of clubs doing the same as a result of the changes enacted. Among the changes Florida Republican clubs can no longer publish voter election guides.
Perhaps the biggest demand is the member contact information that they demand.
The actions taken at the state party level also carry the threat of taking control of club finances if they do not fall in line.
I am proud of my club’s officers for the action taken and the club members for standing shoulder to shoulder against the RPOF.
Sundance is way off base here.
Ramaswamy in no way insinuated or suggested that he “created” the MAGA movement.
This is the man who didn’t hesitate for a moment when the candidates were asked at the first debate, whether they would support Donald Trump if he were the nominee.
Sundance is guilty of the very thing he cautions against. He’s pretending the man is some sinister “intel plant” instead of accepting him for who he is and what he actually says. I haven’t seen or heard Ramaswamy say anything to suggest he’s anything but a genuine and sincere America first patriot.
Just like clockwork . . .
And always in pairs…
Funny how they keep coming as three-lettered accounts….
Kinda like fed, dhs, fbi or CIA!
Symbolic pattern recognition.
Amateurs posing as professionals.
Mine’s not!!!
Sorry BFD, Sundance is a gift that keeps on giving! I don’t believe Haley is eligible for POTUS, not sure on Vivek’s status either. We heard the smooth talk from the Lightbringer!
Sundance isn’t on first, second or third base because he’s already a home run champ ! Don’t bet against him.
I hope I live long enough for Sundance to be on the wrong side of an analysis. Pretty sure I won’t see it happen.
I believe that WWreddit, the Ukraine invasion, was not a perfect prediction by Sundance.
But he is the best analyst of events that I have found.
He is ALL in on TPP. How is that America First?
He’s not “all in” on TPP. He said he’d like to see us re-enter it but on fairer terms that put us in a stronger position from a trade perspective vis-a-vis China. That’s it. He’s never suggested that we subjugate our interests in any way.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Panic in DC (Langley)?
You tell us “Black Knight”.
You seem to enjoy mocking those who express their opinions, but rather short when it comes to facts. I think we may have actual case of the pot calling the kettle black.
If you want the brutal truth, your use of the laughing emojis is a dead giveaway. It’s a juvenile tactic commonly used by agency trolls and low intelligence leftists unable to justify their positions on the merits.
Ramaswamy is filing an amicus brief with the SC in support of keeping Trump on the Colorado ballot. Please explain what motive an intel plant would have been doing that.
Suckering the plebes of course.
I think BK offers up a lot of facts and I’m not short.
Don’t you love trolls lecturing us on how to spot trolls as they troll our long-faithful Treepers?
Yep. So easy to spot. AS SD says, once you see….
I haven’t known what to think about Vivek since the early vetting exposure reveals.
So, i definitely have trust issues on some policy issues with him.
However, I don’t think everyone is necessarily a “control player”. Sometimes they are just who they are.
I don’t have any instincts about Vivek….but, I hope he isn’t a control player and an eventual Trump backstabber. We need all the help we can get…amd so does Trump.
He doesn’t have to be a control player to act as one. However, it’s his knowledge of the game that gives it away.
game
All Your Base Are Belong To Us
Politics attracts the worst of us. I had an old friend since passed that said he would never want a politician as a friend. They are not good people and my friend was a good person. Normal people judge Polictical people like they judge their friends and neighbors. Judging people like Vivek like you would the rest of us is a mistake. The political types have a bit of rot or a lot of rot inside them. Trump is a generational and maybe biblical character. He is unique. The only stain Trump has is superficial. Those that stood up to run against him in the Republican Party are ROTTEN TO THE CORE. Vivek included.
I have read multiple comments on multiple threads on this site alleging that Haley is an ineligible presidential candidate due primarily to issues with her parentage. Surely, IMO, if such was the case, she would have been publicly disqualified long ago by other candidates, the media, and SD.
Can someone cite an authoritative source, preferably a credible political reporter/authority, not merely a casual citizen or election observer, to unequivocally affirm or refute the allegation? In the meantime, I will presume she is a legitimate candidate.
Thanks in advance.
There are conflicting reports on this for sure. I believe this is accurate but I cannot say with certainty
https://www.villagenews.com/story/2023/03/09/opinion/does-nikki-haley-qualify-as-a-natural-born-citizen/72444.html
I learned in school “natural born” for the purpose of presidential eligibility meant born to 2 citizen parents so their allegiance is to the US and not the country the parents are from.
Two links, somewhat overlap
https://amgreatness.com/2024/01/01/the-constitution-absolutely-prohibits-nikki-haley-from-being-president-or-vice-president/
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/01/analysis-legal-scholar-asserts-u-s-constitution-disqualifies/
There is NO accepted definition.
There once was an accepted definition, but that has never been put into law. A very early immigration law amended the definition. That law didn’t last long. And it did not state the original definition.
Over the years, things have been changed as to citizenship. At one time it was by law based on your father’s citizenship. And at the time, it only took two years for a white male immigrant to be eligible.
And the Civil War amendment fixing the color discrimination has been twisted into the anchor baby amendment. Which sort of changes the sexist discrimination without explicitly doing do. All that matters is mom’s location, not mom’s or dad’s citizenship.
Kamala Harris was born here to immigrant parents. Her mom quickly took her to Canada and raised her there. Her dad became a citizen long after she was born. No clue about mom’s citizenship. Yet she is V.P. A heart beat from being President. And supposedly required to fulfill all Constitutional requirements before becoming VP.
But the real kicker is that there has never been an enforcement mechanism. Not for any Constitutional requirement. We are seeing some of this in the attempt to disqualify Trump. The courts routinely hold that individuals don’t have standing and states don’t have authority.
In the end, it comes down to Congress installing whomever they please. If someone dares to question it, Congress could then decide that the person elected by the people does not qualify. That would be a big deal.
I would like to see how courts and congress deal with the age limit. At least an enforcement mechanism could arise.
But I fear we are treading down the path of a future naturalized citizen as popular as Arnold Schwarzenegger becoming President. And nothing will be done to require the Constitution be followed. Maybe enough people will do so with their votes. But all who try to make it an issue will be demonized like they were with Obama.
Trump tried to get Obama’s birth certificate, and we still don’t have it. I have mine, and I’m older. You think your media buddies are interested in anything other than flinging birther epithets at people who respect the law? I don’t.
You could always try reading the Constitution. 🙃
💥
Lightbringer lowered the bar.
Why? Kamala Harris is an anchor baby and should never have been allowed to run as VP… but it happened.
NONSENSE, a piddly argument and ego chest thumping saying “our movement” as if no one can join. . Trump cant change the swamp on his own; look at what happened in his first 4 years. Trump will only have 4 years in office. Swamy has always backed Trump.
I just read some article that Vivek has/had ties and backing from Peter Thiel/palatir which is big into digital surveillance stuff and with links to Israel.
They were all big Covid intervention pushers. Including Israel !!!!
They want to control our lives!!!! Israel has sold the systems to China to use on its people!!!
I’m totally done with all of the above. I thought Israel was about freedom… they are not!!!!
I understand that Ramaswamy has no path to the White House. But I also appreciate some of his opinions, and particularly how he vocalizes them in a very effective way. I would suspect that he knows he has ‘no path’. I also expect that he is not getting a tremendous amount of outside funding, and that, at some point, he will drop out and endorse Trump. Maybe he remains in the race, vocalizing, as he wants some kind of political position from Trump. Nevertheless, he is vocalizing a lot of what needs to be heard, and is getting the coverage so that it gets into the public arena. I may be naive, but I don’t view his continued presence as a threat to the MAGA movement.
Edit: In reading some of the comments here, I begin to wonder….is it possible that Ramaswamy actually has some kind of backroom agreement with Trump? Ramaswamy is sharp, intelligent and articulate. Surely this would be someone you would want as a ‘soldier’ for your cause….???
He’s saying some things that might ingratiate some Trump supporters, yes. He outright fails on TPP, which may indicate his true leanings. It does for me.
I doubt Trump has cut any deal with him. 4D chess would absolutely preclude that right now, and perhaps forever. Some schmoozing? Always.
Remember Trump sitting with Haley as she was quitting the fake UN job, to run for president and backstab him? He knew it, and he still sat there and smiled and schmoozed her. He stroked her like a lap cat, and she glowed and purred. Masterclass schmoozing, and the accompanying 4D chess has turned her into an irrelevancy. Well, we did most of that, but you know he envisioned it and allowed natural forces to work for him. He’ll sniff out Vivek similarly, if needed.
Harry Potter was a parsel tongue. Look it up. All these ego maniacs are. Sit back, relax and enjoy what is to come, by living your best life. Stay in prayer, praise God, love Jesus and give thanks. For all that happens is for his glory. In Christ—to all my treeper friends…..
VR is rehearsing his 2028 campaign.
I knew it the first time I saw him and heard him speak. Vivek is a younger Obama.
He will stay in to the end for 2 reasons. 1: there needs to be a palatable alternative in the event thatTrump gets disappeared. 2: Someone needs to make use of the national pulpit; the truths he speaks from inside the press cocoon created by the race itself gives guaranteed exposure to what was once called conspiracy theories. Without him speaking about J6 in the national press, only Trump would remain.
“….sending the exact signals I would expect to see if an INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY (IC) OPERATOR was nearing the end of his usefulness.”
Whomp, there it is!
When you say “op-er-ator,” you’ve said it All!
Sundance bringing it, as usual.
My man!
❤️ it!
🎯😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
[¹] I suspected this all along
Trump likely has Rama’s number, whatever it is. The Uniparty has contingency plans, and Rama as VP would be an obvious one. President elect Trump could be removed within a few months, then. Trump has to make the pick, and not be forced to settle. It will be a rough 4 years, and he’ll have to fire many of the first cabinet the Senate foists upon him. He can’t have a backstabbing mole as VP, too.
In the old Jungle Jim movies, the bad guy/witch doctor was always named “Ramaswamy” or something close to it.
I had no idea who Indian Eminem was until months after he decided to run for president.
I don’t ever remember a time seeing him helping or even in the vicinity of President Trump during any portion of his term.
For him to claim a movement he was never a memorable part of is despicable.
I disagree.
Anyone who is (1st) America 1st MAGA and (2nd) supports DJT’s MAGA agenda/principals can join the movement and call it ours. I can use the sentence…”Our America 1st movement must win in 2024!, and it is not an attempt to usurp DJT. Vivek is standing in the shadow of DJT and he appreciates that.
But he HASN’T joined it; he’s running against it. It already has a candidate in the presidential race, Trump.
Therefore IF Vivek had JOINED the movement he would stop running against the movement’s candidate.
And that my friends is why Sundance called him a DECPTICON. The Swamy is a slick tongued phony scumbag
I felt like Vivak was implying an assassination attempt on Trump and that he would stay in as a replacement if that should occur
Exactly so.
I have never trusted him! All part of stopping Trump 😠
Vivek is another Elon Musk – Fraud and Liar…..
Still out there watching GOP politics and hoping they are being sincere or not trying to sabatoge the country or being sneaky how they do it. Still confused how Mitch can be working for the other side and Ronna is prepared to lose. Maybe your waiting for that new speaker to do the right thing and not side with the Dems. Maybe your praying the Congress will stop the destruction of the country and close the border. No the truth is the GOP is coorupt and not afraid to show it. Your team hates you so how can you be like the battered wife and keep coming back to them hoping your situation will change. Until this group is put on notice you will remain the victim and the beatings are getting worse. Your gonna need those German farmers if you keep participating with the GOP hoping for a miriacle.
Vivek actually stated to some supporters (or at least some people attending one his “rallies”) last weekend that he would Pardon President Trump and have him as an advisor in his cabinet. Really?!!
Very good analysis especially of Vivek – could never be in PDJT admin in any real capacity, another Trojan horse .
S is right about SIG – they were ALWAYS going to support the Dem in the end – beware of Murdoch et al ~ Coordinated efforts against PDJT just beyond belief
President Trump alone will decide later who will take that pragmatic economic-based MAGA movement forward – after his four-year term.
Ergo, Ben Carson.
And yet if Vivek was actually working with Trump as a Trojan Horse, what would he be doing and saying any different? He certainly has been Red Pilling anyone asleep enough to be still wasting their time and watching the “debates”. And maybe he’s telling us that he is working with Trump with the “our America-First movement”. In any case, as long as he keeps on with his red pilling, he’s ultimately supporting The Great Awakening plan, whether it’s intentional or not.
He may be running out of “red pills” as S infers and what does he do after that ? That is where S leaves it ….with any strings perhaps coming into view? TBD
And remember when Chris Christie was the hero back in 2015 for red pilling Rubio the Robot at the debate stage that night –
“f Vivek Ramaswamy was authentic to his words, if he really wanted to advance the America First movement, he would accept the futility of his position and endorse Donald J. Trump. His unwillingness to do that says more about him, about his [¹]’glowing‘ motives and intents, than anything he might say about Nikki Haley and Ron DeSantis.”
EXACTLY!!!!!!!
I would think the Sea Island group was pleased with Rumy running, whether they placed him there or not. Trump will not waste his time or ours debating the fools Nimrata and DeSavior. He appears as their Trump proxy in the hope to discredit Trump and MAGA with the in their eyes very stable, and safe looking candidates they assembled to stop Trump. Backfired regardless of who Rumy really is.
I have detested him since the first time I heard him speak. A little research showed what he was (though that info may have been scrubbed by now–he did pay to have that done). He did it again, warning us “they will stop at nothing.” Me thinks the prophet talks too much. Sounds like a wish yet to be fulfilled.
Is he in a car like a Tik Tocker? No time to watch these fools or desire to hear their blather. Mydorkis/Obiden/ WEF’s millions of new real estate investors will be jacking this guy’s stuff soon enough.
Long time reader, first time commenting. I have a deep concern that the SIG will partner with the DNC to use their vast election fraud machine in the Primary Elections to deprive President Trump the nomination by stuffing the ballot box/manipulating the electronic voting machine tallies, etc. They did it in 2020 to deprive President Trump a second term. They did it in the 2022 midterms to prevent Trump endorsed candidates from being elected. If they really wanted to deal a death blow to the America First movement, I fear they could manipulate the Primary Election to a degree that only one of the SIG approved candidates is left standing at the time of the GOP Convention, which would essentially remove President Trump from the national conversation for the General Election. I do not have the answer, but I am praying that I am dead wrong.
My grandfather spent many years in India between ww1 and ww2. He always said “they” are all “nice to your face, but when your back is turned….”
I don’t trust him
Saw him on Roseanne Barr. Superficial and glib. He ain’t MAGA.
Isn’t it kinda strange that there was no discussion on Making America Great again? America First people! We are One Nation Under God and in God do we put our trust period. Nothing was mentioned about the great accomplishments of President Trump in steering this Country in the right direction. Of course not. The uni party is only interested in being in power. A D or R means nothing to them. The SIG is just another instrument of Satan. They think they are more powerful than Almighty God!
I thank God that Sundance is an instrument being used by God to help bring this great Country called America back on track with the divine vision set forth by our founding fathers. Daniel 12 :10 explains everything!
The problem that these Mega donors have and cannot understand is that the MAGA people cannot be bought like these Rino scum running for President.
Two points here:
— Knowing that Donald Trump is certain to win the primaries, it makes sense for the UniParty working in cahoots with the RNC and even with the IC to keep Haley and DeSantis in the wings under a plan where Trump is denied the nomination through one means or another after the primaries are over; e.g, through RNC rule changes or possibly even assassination if it comes down to that.
— Regardless of what Vivek Ramaswamy’s true reasons are for running in the primaries, if he drops out he no longer has a platform for pushing his opinions, whatever his motivations are for speaking those opinions.
Vivek is a quick study, but he is young and just hasn’t had enough time to grasp all of this yet.
People who have been in government all their adult lives still don’t get it, so I can’t say I blame him.
Ramaswampy is a Uniparty member, he will throw on whatever color the Uniparty tells him to, he will say whatever the Uniparty tells him to. He’s had the likes of Daschle and Sebelius on his company’s board, but McCarthy has promoted him also. Notice when Ramaswampy called out Nikita on stage about not knowing three provinces in Ukraine, Nikita smiled. Nikita wasn’t outraged that Ramaswampy was calling her out; she smiled. All parts of their rehearsed roles. Except for Meatball, who is just too stupid.
Ramaswampy is injected to plant seeds. He will play his role.
Reminder that Kamallamadingdong called Joey out on stage for her “riding one of those busses,” and, yet, “We did it, Joe,” as if they’ve always been a team.
Look, squirrel!
I am ambivalent about VR in the extreme, but I will say a couple of things.
With Trump not attending the Republican debates, who among the candidates was expressing “America First” ideas on the debate stage, to people who may not even have voted in the last election (18-22 year olds)? How else would those young voters hear about those ideas, to learn to want them, and by extension, Trump?
When Trump is finished, who is going to run for President after him? His 2024 VP only? Whomever that is, there will be a primary in 2028. Do we expect no one other than Trump’s VP to be a contender?
This is politics. People who have ambitions to be President generally start out long before they are elected. VR is just another person who wants the office. This election is a trial run for him, and he knows it.
Watch to see where Trump puts him in his administration, if anywhere, and watch what VR does for a while before making up your mind. I for one remember Jeff Sessions, Pompeo, and a few others who seemed promising, and turned out bad. But I also remember Ben Carson, who ran against Trump, and is my number one wish for VP in 2024.