In this video [see below], presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy is essentially describing the “splitter strategy” CTH has discussed and outlined in granular detail for years. Essentially, a process where the billionaire donors, hedge fund managers, corporations and multinationals – what we define as the Sea Island group (SIG), control the private corporation known as the RNC.
On this facet of his commentary, Ramaswamy is correct. However, from there he gets things wrong.
Yes, as we have said, the Chris Christie exit is part of the continuum. Remember, within mutually aligned motives the candidate doesn’t need specifically to be an active participant; they only need to be looking out for their individual interests, usually financial.
When the ‘time to exit’ tap on the shoulder is received, it comes via a key backer saying, “there’s no longer a path.” The money stops, and the candidate suspends their campaign. That’s how the process works.
Did Christie get that tap on the shoulder, at the specific time needed to retain the “never Trump” effort, thereby creating further support for Nikki Haley? Yes, absolutely – again, that’s how it works.
The SIG moved all their poker chips to Nikki after they realized the weird behavior of DeSantis meant he was no longer a viable option. When Brian Kemp began creating distance with DeSantis, that’s when the shift to Haley began.
Immediately preceding the shift to Nikki Haley, and specifically because DeSantis was not gaining traction, the evangelical brothers Mike Pence and Asa Hutchinson also received their tap on the shoulder and withdrew from their Iowa effort.
Within the plan of the SIG, Pence/Hutchinson were only camped in Iowa to pull a coalition of evangelicals together to hand them to DeSantis. But that part of the effort never gained traction. As a consequence, the SIG shifted to New Hampshire, where their allied Democrats could assist.
Ramaswamy is correct in the statement that the billionaire donors within the SIG want a head-to-head between President Trump and Nikki Haley, but only because that’s all that remains of the collapsing roadmap. Where Ramaswamy is wrong is that when Haley loses, the SIG/Never Trump group will shift to supporting Biden (Newsom). That’s the UniParty. Ultimately, in the big picture, the foundational effort is not about supporting DeSantis or Haley, it’s about stopping Trump.
The hubris of Vivek Ramaswamy in this video then makes everything else he says ridiculous, and also explains why he cannot gain traction.
Who is Ramaswamy to say, “our America-First movement“? As if this is something he created. :::spit::: Right there, in that statement, is where we notice who Ramaswamy is. He is trying to co-opt the MAGA Trump movement for his own motives and intents.
There is only one person who holds the allegiance of the American working class and the America First movement. That person is President Donald Trump. President Trump alone will decide later who will take that pragmatic economic-based MAGA movement forward – after his four-year term. This is not that time.
At CTH we accept things as they are, not as we would pretend them to be.
If Vivek Ramaswamy was authentic to his words, if he really wanted to advance the America First movement, he would accept the futility of his position and endorse Donald J. Trump. His unwillingness to do that says more about him, about his [¹]’glowing‘ motives and intents, than anything he might say about Nikki Haley and Ron DeSantis.
WATCH 01:33 minutes:
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[¹] I have stayed generally neutral on Ramaswamy for a reason. However, he is now sending the exact signals I would expect to see if an intelligence community operator was nearing the end of his usefulness. It’s called ‘Linguistic Programming‘. ie “they will never allow,” etc.
never trusted him
Me, either, but I wasn’t sure why; it was just a feeling . . . .
Trust your gut feeling.
Too slick. Too smooth. Too well-rehearsed with every speech in front of cameras & mics or a mobile device.
Speaks like he’s been with us and cheering on Trump & MAGA since the outset.
But he’s the guy you never noticed before but suddenly he appears and knows you and everyone else like old comrades. He knows our agenda down to the nth degree.
Where’d he come from? How does he know everything in that level of detail?
He seems very smart, intelligent. But Sundance is suspicious cat. And he smells a Deep State deep fake – a plant.
Well…….I expect that another guy knows a fair amount about Vivek also.
Very sharp, multi Billionaire would make anyone a bit cocky. Solid values, loves Dr. Thomas Sowell.
Despite his considerable efforts, he’s facing losing, something he rarely does in life.
We’ll see if he endorses President Trump at some point. Don’t forget he asked for Rona’s head, and eviscerated the MSM.
He’s the ‘Ray Epps’ of the RINO Party.
Popped out of a uniparty bottle that washed up on shore in dc cesspool.
And he was able to instantly get on every single MSM Program, a virtual unknown. You don’t see RFK Jr. on all of these News sites. So why did they all start interviewing VR?
Said something similar before reading the comments (shame on me). I don’t remember ever seeing him around during Trump’s first term. For him to show up with “Hey guys! I’m your buddy who’s been part of your group forever and DEFINITELY on your side!” when our real leader is still ready and able to continue….It reminds me of the “where’s the Fed” memes they posted after J6 showing how they stuck out of every crowd they infiltrated.
We don’t need some wannabe rap Big Pharm dude trying to claim he’s the best thing since Trump, especially when Trump is still eligible for office. If Vivek had any respect for MAGA he wouldn’t even be running.
Yes! Vivek has always said the right things to appeal to MAGA, voters/supporters. So he has decided to try to draw all of our support from President Trump to vote for him. He hast to know that is not going to happen, except for maybe a few who on the margins are disaffected by something President Trump did or said. Some people are single issue, voters, and if Trump comes down on everything else correctly, but does not satisfy them on their single issue, they might vote for Vivek if he *does* support their particular issue.
But I don’t know how he truly expected everyone else to leave Trump, UNLESS he knows something from the shadowy people who are behind him that says Trump is definitely not going to be able to run on the ballot this November..
So either way whether he is sincere, or he is a deep state plant in the Republican primaries, I cannot get up enough feelings of security with him to lend him any support. He continues to agitate my Spidey senses.
Feelings or not, we should not trust anyone who appears out of nowhere and says things we want said but doesn’t get attacked for saying them the way we get attacked for saying them.
Always trust your instincts.
If you don’t know, stay quiet – say nothing. But trust your instincts.
Huh…….very Biblical.
He is slithery
To recognize a con you have to think like one is good advice. I’m waiting for a fly to land on his head.
The obama sign indicating something doesn’t smell right.🦨
…… and a fly lit on Mike Pence, too. Gee, I never realized how smart flies can be.
LOL! So true! Thanks for the humor!
If it seems too good to be true, it usually is. His answers were ALL well rehearsed and sounded too good to be true.
Seriously though – is Vivek Constitutionally qualified? I know the O was not, but I was run out of local “conservative” talk radio for espousing that belief.
He is not.
At least he isn’t married to someone with massive biceps and a lump in their neck and between their legs.
the jabber mouth pretender should stick to rapping
My instincts tell me hes a disrespectful and ungrateful parasite on America who gets great pleasure out of fooling hapless Conservatives who never learn their lesson.
My internal BS meter is off the charts on this one.
ya. bad apple, eve. keep walking.
😂😂😂
I never trusted him because, like The Kenyan, he came out of nowhere and began running for President. Just like “The Kenyan” he says things that people want to hear.
Instead of The Kenyan’s Hope and Change mantra, Ramaswampy tried to hijack the MAGA, America First movement. Both were/are young, slick talkers. Nevertheless, I still don’t know who Ramaswampy really is.
You said exactly what I would have posted,only better. Double Ditto…👍
A consumate controlled constructed concealed conman.
“never trusted him”
Quite literally billions of dollars were bilked by Wallstreet from private, institutional and corporate investors to prop this guy up as a “BigPharma entrepreneur”.
Deep State Manchurians with teeth that white don’t come cheap.
He Reminds me of Obama
He should, he cribbed Obama’s campaign lines and seeks to legitimize his usurping a position available only to Natural Born Citizens.
Bingo.
Yeah, not eligible.
Not one of the western ‘leaders’ who are born of imported stock have shown one speck of loyalty to the country they were born in. Leo Varadkar, Humza Yousaf, Rishi Sunak. All talked the right talk, had the right creds, and given the reins pulled hard left and opened the floodgates for the 3rd world. Anthony Albanese is of the same ilk but had one Aussie parent.
Once again, right words, right connections, sounds on top of things, just happens to be 1st generation native born of imported parents, coincidentally scrubbing past kudos given by WEF. If the current track record across the rest of the Anglosphere unfairly slights him, tough.
Perfect assessment.
Very well said, Mouse. Have been watching this theatre play out in Britain.
The bottom line… is for all to see! Thanks- SD!
<><><> Ultimately, in the big picture, the foundational effort is not about supporting DeSantis or Haley, it’s about stopping Trump. <><><>
{The deep state has been trying to shut down President Trump, since 2015.}
Yes, I still see too many wjo, by their comments just don’t REALLY get the whole Uniparty concept.
The goal is not about personal ambition, its not about one or another faction or party ‘winning’ the WH, its all about keeping “Trump” out.
At this point, they will try having Dems voting for Nikki in open primary States, in order to get her as many “proportional delegates” as they can.
Assuming they can’t keep the nomination from PDJT thru manipulations, they will try to insist PDJT must take Nikki as his VP, in order to”Unite the party”.
Other than the Plandemic, neither wing of the Uniparty has done anything new or different in my lifetime.
They have an old, well worn play book,..actually when the Dems did the Superdelegate #, to take the nomination away from Hillary and give it to Obama, THAT was ‘something new’.
Maybe the R party will try that?
Let them try that and destroy the remainder of the illusion they’ve cast for many years.
Things will likely get much more interesting, in not so good ways.
I, certainly will not submit to one of their preferred choices foisted upon me.
I think ramaswamy is another tool in the uniparty pouch used as needed.
Lawfare from the left….unqualified candidates from the right ( two of them!)…..
Now please remind me about the “uniparty”/s
Time to soon put vivek under Sundance’s high powered luminescence!
In deep with Pfizer, to me that says it all.
Scammed small investors out of millions on an already failed drug his company bought and renamed.
Just before the final report was published, the major backers bailed leaving the small investors holding the bag
(which was now empty)
Not to mention the political original sin – just like DeStablishment – Swampy supported the TPP.
Fast talker — always makes me say “hmmm.” Like he’s trying to pull a fast one.
The footnote – re: IC operator – I think is 100% spot on.
Trust India.
LOL!!!!
He says some interesting things at times,
BUT,
He is NOT Trump.
AND
He is running against Trump.
Not very smart.
Ramaswamy says the right things, haley keeps putting foot in mouth and dapper ron reads a script good but wears uniparty boots that don’t quite fit right.😳
Somebody’s gotta tell Ron! what those boots were made for.
“However, he is now sending the exact signals I would expect to see if an intelligence community operator was nearing the end of his usefulness”
I knew he was too good to be true. Why are conservatives such cheap dates? Some sweet talking fly boy comes along and you’re willing to throw it all away on him. You have a responsibility to play hard to get! You owe it to your children and grandchildren. That’s why I’ve been such a meanie this election cycle. I verify THEN trust.
Eh, Ramaswami never got more than a few percentage points, so I don’t think most conservatives were fooled, but I do think it’s an emotional reaction against the non-stop hostile propaganda, to at least take a look at someone who is (on the surface) saying what conservatives think, only without the in-your-face blow-back and hostility…
Look at it this way; imagine the Debates,…PDJT refuses to participate and there is no VR.
Without VR, the R debates intended to be an opportunity to trashtalk “Trump” would have got no views, at all.
Funny thing that lack of blow-back and hostility,eh? Hmmmmmm.
Swampy is not conservative. He is an Indian snake.
I trust Ramaslamajama as much as I trust Haley, not at all.
I believe their putting the money behind Haley to stop Trump because she can bring the women vote even without being able to put forth a logical agenda whereas a male candidate is going to have to elucidate a plan.
But then, Ramaslamajama can bring the rappers on board. /s
i have to say, rama really nailed the media with some question’s today. there are plenty of boasburgs and christie’s around. rama is just young. i’m not ready to throw him in the bucket with the brennans of the world,yet. i am glad everybody has their radar up ,including trump. it will be a hoot watching who he picks to run the alphabet agencies.
Alright now, will all you Charlie Brown conservatives stop your foolish and short sighted praise over this motivational speaker pretending to run for President. You know who you are. Snap Out Of It!
spot on. he is a motivational speaker. hopefully not a deep state sob.
actually he has brought up the election fraud. he brought up the russia collusion hoax into the face of the drive by media today. along with some other truths.
the Russia collusion hoax is old news and has no influence over the election in 300 days. You know, the one thats for all the marbles. Its called a SHINY THING for the easily distracted. Nobody is held accountable for the hoax because the frauds are being installed not elected.
If Vivek has brought up the election fraud which installed Branden then by default he would be automatically disqualifying his own candidacy.
Trump Won….Remember. Why would anyone run against the rightful President and/or the will of the vast majority of the electorate who want election integrity.
Best case scenario hes a dumb ars self serving election fraud denier.
More likely however, hes part of the pretending team of fake candidates working together to get Trump.
Yes, he has brought it up.
“Why would anyone run against the rightful President…?”
Because there are people who consider themselves to be the real conservatives- and their egos prevent them from seeing reality clearly- (or, their sins have darkened their minds.)
And they know there are other people like them that they might seduce, talking heads and influencers who will help do their bidding.
Did Christie ever think he had a pathway to victory or was he only doing his part for the team? Why are they running?
I think most of these candidates have had a life-long ambition to someday be president and are susceptible to being used by the uniparty to advance the goals of the uniparty, and therefore they are really useful idiots with big egos.
But, I think Ramaswamy is different- I don’t think he’s been chasing a lifelong dream. He co-opts his message and appears to be a suck-up vying for VP, yet he is running against Trump. If he’s not merely a useful idiot, then is he a conspirator with the uniparty to sabatage a Trump presidency-Pence 2.0? Every challenger has self-disqualified for the very reason of the question you pose. Excellent question.
Thank you for putting into words what is instinctively known about what Mr. Ramaswamy is attempting to do;
saw similar ploy in the elections after the tea party became a thing. Here in Nevada Harry Reid had some of his people come out of nowhere and insert themselves (co-opt) into the home grown movement and their antics made it impossible for actual tea party (forerunner to America First) candidates up and down the ticket to win any seats.
The swamp does know what it’s doing.
Bottom line is the swamp is stealing elections to install fellow WEF travelers. They’ve always done it and they plan to keep right on doing it.
The only difference now is that they are under heightened scrutiny. So what they’re doing with their fake polls and their fake candidates and their fake news, is inventing the reason -any reason- that will make the next *steal* seem a plausible outcome.
Just like inserting some people on J6?
Time tells all the truth.
It always comes out, every.single.time.
You just have to wait, watch and listen.
Yes, believe your lyin’eyes.
I watched President Trump tonight with Bret and Martha.
He was so impressive.
His stature on that stool emphasized his physique and stamina in that position.
Go back and check the video of that town hall.
He sent a very clear, but subtle message to the Murdoch’s and Paul Ryan…it was all there.
Proud of President Trump; he gets better with age.
he was superb.
He looked great physically. Maybe lost a few pounds. Loved him giving it back to fox as only HE can do
Big fail, all bluster and deflection, little substance, unless you like to recall his “great” COVID response again or what a great guy Sean Hannity is. Unwatchable. It’s not that he’s not capable. The only impressive part was his body language. Maybe too much on his plate right now, and who could blame him, but what was the point? That he doesn’t need them or their entire broadcast audience?
“Did Christie get that tap on the shoulder, at the specific time needed to retain the “never Trump” effort, thereby creating further support for Nikki Haley? Yes, absolutely – again, that’s how it works.”
Then why didn’t he endorse her?
Timing? Waiting to get past the hot mic news? Waiting til whatever dribbles from his mouth to have the most anti-Trump impact with the media?
It’ll happen.
I don’t think he liked getting the tap. Hence the hot mic moment. He isn’t the kind of guy who likes to hear that we are done using you.
He’s still mad that they made him get out before the New Hampshire vote.
He got the tap openly by Sununu a few weeks ago but didn’t like it.
He doesn’t have to endorse Nikki. They are in the same anti Trump establishment lane. It is expected his supporters in NH will likely move to Nikki.
There was an “Anyone but Romney” mentality amongst readers at Human Events in 2012. Christie supporters will go “Anyone but Trump.”
I am weary of all the latest pushing that they will stop at NOTHING to get Trump. It is like they are programming people to be accepting of such a thing. It is one thing to be aware of their evil and another to keep pushing that agenda.
Exactly.
The Derps work hard at injecting fatalism and voter suppression, we see it here every day.
If you suppose omnipotence you grant omnipotence.
I’ve only supposed conceit from these sociopaths.
Hubris before nemesis. A familiar tale interwoven throughout all of history.
That’s exactly the reaction I had when I watched this earlier. If he’s America First, then drop out immediately. But he doesn’t. Smacks of an op. Time for another rap performance.
Bring out the hook that pulls him off stage!
“Our America First agenda cannot end, our movement, cannot end, with Donald Trump, when they take him out from contention. And if you think the system is gonna let this man get anywhere near the White House, we need to open our eyes.”
Arrogant hubristic operator programming minds to accept the thwarting of our President Trump, to accept the Omnipotence of the Derp State, while pretending that such a system would permit him himself to achieve just such a thing.
That last line of his quoted here is straight from the disinformationalists seeking to inject despair into our hearts and fatalism into our minds, and is nearly verbatim regularly spouted here in our forum by some for most certainly the same purposes.
Noticed a lot of new posters here recently. Going to get “busy” closer to election. I’ve had to bite my tongue and “fingers. “
Indeed.
We’ve seen many waves of influence agents, but his year will be absolutely bonkers full of ’em.
Whooee! That quote does it for me. No way No how No Trust in Vivek!! That is a mouth full of deception. It’s like the trolls who say I like Trump BUT, or I voted for him , BUT….Can it be any clearer that we’re hearing a decepticon crapweasel?
When they tell you who they really are, BELIEVE THEM.
“[¹] I have stayed generally neutral on Ramaswamy for a reason. However, he is now sending the exact signals I would expect to see if an intelligence community operator was nearing the end of his usefulness.”
Wouldn’t this also suggest he is NOT playing for a role in a President Trump cabinet?
One would think the IC would want a plant to at least end up somewhere as an administration troublemaker.
Pretty sure the Derps would look elsewhere for phonies to push for the cabinet.
I can’t imagine why any one of us would suppose a contender against Trump was seeking such a position, let alone worthy of it, yet many did.
On the contrary, I think it suggests he IS playing for a role in Trump’s cabinet precisely because he IS a plant.
DeSantis is the problem with the Republican party. Just another sellout, willing to roll over on our guy. His cowardly silence on the raid on Mar a Lago said it all.
Just another politician scumbag working purely for self-interest. No love of America or her people to be found there.
He used Trump’s endorsement to get elected, then knifes him in the back. What a guy!
Two things:
1) Like him or hate him, Ramaswamy can embarrass the media.
2) Haley got decimated by DeSantis in their debate tonight. Hard to see her getting much traction after sounding like an angry shrew and screeching about her anti-DSantis website all night. Might not help RDS in the overall picture, but it has to hurt Haley.
Haley can self destruct all day everyday but it likely doesn’t matter. Since she’s the current selection of all of the GOP never Trump world, she could stay in her basement and still be the darling of the globalist trash. Hopefully New Hampshire doesn’t use Dominion voting machines. With Dims padding her totals plus Dominion switching votes, it might be closer than the 10 votes she should get.
Exactly. Everyone hated Hitlery. She showed utter contempt for the people of this country and wasn’t healthy enough to be president. The shrew was literally passing out and getting tossed in the back of a van.
Still managed to get the nomination. Don’t even get me started on the rest of the failed nominees in the last two decades.
Yea, kinda hurts like 1% Kam-ala Shazam calling Biden a racist then being chosen as Dr. Demento’s running mate.
Ramaswampy says towards the end, “Our America First agenda cannot end. Our movement cannot end with Donald Trump when they take him out from contention. And if you think this system is going to even let this man get anywhere near the white house. We need to open our eyes.”
Swampy always appears to me to be hanging on the sidelines eagerly waiting to jump in and take the reigns because he thinks our fearless leader PDJT will be taken down. Way to eager beaver for me. Not authentic.
He’s a clown running to the head of the parade in hopes folks will let him lead it, as if they were all following him all along.
Da Vek will never curry favor with me.
Agreed. Well said Maquis.
I see what you did there. 🙂
Maquis way to go . Giving wordman a run for his money . On a side note i don’t care what ramaslimey has to say means nothing to me my horse is sixteen hands high has a blond mane and came in first in the last two races and is all set to win the triple crown . there is nothing and i do mean NOTHING that will stop me from voting for PRESIDENT TRUMP . Have a great night treepers love you guys
R.D.
Besides, there ARE those who will be the future of MAGA, but they aren’t out there proclaiming it, because they don’t Have To,….they just ARE.
WE saw this exact same “but what is the FUTURE of MAGA” and “but suppose something HAPPENS to Trump?” arguments here in our comments section, as arguments for DeSantis.
Months ago, my gut instinct dubbed him Ramaswampy.
I wouldn’t ask that Vivek exit just yet, he’s still a voice that does call things out and whether it’s his motives or not, he’s still a voice that gets heard.
As if PDJT doesn’t get heard?
Da Vek’s voice is what the Derps want heard.
A chipper chatty conman charming the chumps, a Political Pied Piper.
I don’t disagree Maquis, but if none of us have noticed… 98% speak badly of PDJT and so another voice that call their BS out is okay in my book.
President Trump has never lost my vote.
I happily call out all who pretend to support PDJT.
That they co-opt his words and our hopes only makes me hate the fakers all the more.
i could ask him to exit. and go full time against the drive by media. i WOULD ask him what he thinks will happen if ‘they’ take trump out of contention. it won’t be pretty.
Proverbs 1:
10
My son, if sinners entice you,
do not consent.
?? That was the Verse of the Day for Wednesday, (01-10-2024).
The Spirit leads.
He does have the quickness, refreshing, and enough for the role. Extraordinary verbal skills, Likely a language school graduate as well. Yeah, quite possibly an asset. More skilled than Papadopalus or Page.
He sounds like he was on the debate team.
Much better than that.
And along as he stays one uses his voice. I think he is helpful to our movement
What’s the most prominent language school ?
Look it up. It’s in the LIEbrary.
Linguistics is a highly desired skill in see aye aaaa recruiting.
Never trust a culture with a caste system.
“The hubris of Vivek Ramaswamy in this video then makes everything else he says ridiculous”
Even “assuming” he is overflowing with hubris, that doesn’t make everything else he says ridiculous.
“Who is Ramaswamy to say, “our America-First movement“? As if this is something he created. :::spit:::”
Anyone can say that and the more the better, not the fewer the better. It doesn’t just belong exclusively to Trump, nor does he want it too.
What if Ramaswamy said “our Constitution“, would that be “As if this is something he created. :::spit:::”?
(btw, clearly Trump likes Ramaswamy, so why are we suppose to hate him?)
“clearly Trump likes Ramaswamy, so why are we suppose to hate him?”
no need to hate him or love him. Just see him for what he is – a Wallstreet/IC whore. It is easy to discover. Just follow the billon dollar money trail through Harvard, Yale, Wallstreet hedgefunds, GSK, and Roviant.
Far from any of us typing here to extrapolate Trump’s network of political chess pieces. Heck, Trump endorsed Lindsey Graham – yet try to find a Patriot who doesn’t hate that warmongering, pantywaist traitor.
I don’t think Vivek is part of the IC game to takedown President Trump!
In the first debate Vivek disassembled Tim Scott, Nikki Haley and Ron DeSantis along with 18 months of Neocon and news media lies about the Ukraine and the much hyped Russian invasion of Ukraine. Vivek’s analysis was sharp as a knife and equally as devastating to the Uniparty narrative.
1: Ukraine is not the paragon of democracy.
2: Ukraine has banned all opposition parties.
3: Ukraine consolidated every news media outlet into one state run agency.
4: Zelensky is a comedian in cargo pants.
5: Zelensky canceled the next election.
…and the final shot into the Uniparty was. “The region that the Russians entered hasn’t been a part of Ukraine since 2014! ”
The dumbfounded looks on the faces on Tim Scott, Nikki Haley and Ron DeSantis was absolutely priceless. It was like they were standing on the debate stage in front of millions of people…totally naked!
Vivek continued his attacks on the Ukrainian debacle in the 2nd debate just as effectively.
“I have stayed generally neutral on Ramaswamy for a reason. However, he is now sending the exact signals I would expect to see if an intelligence community operator was nearing the end of his usefulness.”
Thank you Sundance!
I keep waiting for him to say yes we can
हाँ हम कर सकते हैं!
Str8 from the gates, anyone who threw their hat in the ring against Trump has shown us what kind of creature politics attracts. Power and money hungry, self centered, corrupt sellouts who love stepping on backs to advance ahead. I’ve had more than I can take of politicians and term limits is way past due!
The thought had crossed my mind that Vivek was actually in touch with the Trump campaign and was saying all the things to Nikki and the MSM on behalf of them, and for that he would be rewarded with a position in the administration in 2025.
Clearly, Sundance has a very different take on him and I will have to defer to his judgment, since he is right far more often about these things than I am!
Slightly bummed because I felt like he was making inroads in bringing the under 35 crowd into the GOP, which is a long overdue emphasis, IMHO!
However it was, or wasn’t planned out, Vivek has clearly been a surrogate for Trump in the debates, and a very good one..
But let’s trash him anyway.
Exactly! The guy was Trump on steroids when it came to the fake news on Ukraine and Russia. Vivek said things that President Trump wanted to say but couldn’t…because he would only antagonize the MIC even more.
It was like Vivek is President Trump’s surrogate. His “pinch hitter!”
Being in the age group you mention, in my circle Vivek is universally mocked. Opinion is divided wildly about Trump; they either love or despise him. I have yet to speak to anyone 18-40 who has been swayed by anything Indian Eminem has said, but many who are repelled because he underscores their previous belief that the GOP is a bad joke.
Thank you for replying! That’s very interesting to hear – since I am well above the aforementioned age group, I was making assumptions that he was resonating with younger people, in the way that Barack Obama did in 2008 or Bill Clinton in 1992.
The Republican Party has long struggled to appear relevant to the college age /young adult voters (often for good reason) so I was curious if Vivek was changing that, but I guess not! 🥴
I think if he was younger he would be more appealing to younger generations, but I have siblings and cousins a decade and a half younger than me (18-25) and they almost universally find him hilariously unserious. They view him similarly to how we (my demo) viewed Trump, when we wanted him to go in a blow up everything the old guard was pushing on us. They think Indian Eminem would be an amusing trainwreck and the only people I know willing to vote for him are the ones who don’t believe the US will survive much longer anyway, so why not have a laugh on the way out.
Haley, DeSantis or Biden, Newsom doesn’t matter. 2 x 0 is still zero. Vivek can get on the Trump Train or get left behind. After all the back stabbing trust is in short supply.
“We”
It is Vivek or Kari. We nee a firebrand as VP to carry the torch in case Donald gets Kennedied. If Ramaswamy wants it to be our America First movement, fine. It needs to be a big tent.
Kari has absolutely NO bona fides to be a VP. She royally screwed up her own campaign for one thing.
How did she “Royally screw up her campaign?
By trashing McStain? Az does NOT like McStain or the machine with his name on it.
By being SUCH a threat to the Uniparty, that they HAD to run a primary candidate against her, financed with $30 million and in the General have such a huge lead they had to steal the election with everyone watching?
She has far more bono fides, more POLITICAL experience that DJT had when he descended the escalator.
And, she has the Insurance policy quality, and no other potential VP has that.
And notice she DID NOT run, unlike RDS, NH, etc. in the primary for POTUS.
There you go. An excellent observation. I hope it means something big.
Like Trump, she had the entire Democrat machine AND the entire Republican machine working to keep her out of office, along with a corrupt judiciary to rubber stamp it, and a continually lying press to provide cover.
It’s amazing she did as well as she did. Mrs. MAGA.
Only if you believe it takes machines many days to count votes, and that it’s completely random chance that over 90% of the broken machines happened in Republican areas….and that a no-personality SOS overseeing her own election is of the highest moral character….
Oh and teeny bopper Katie sounds likes she is 12 years old. Just ABSOLUTELY AWFUL!!
TPTB need their guy in as VP before they can Kennedy trump. It’s the only way they can get the WH. VR isn’t qualified so they need another Pence.
To slick and Polished aka fake
The b team bench is getting smaller and smaller.
All this stuff is a rear guard action. The big move was supposed to be the indictment. That indictment increased Trump’s support, and he did not play by Government Party rules which require “indicted” candidates to give a tearful exit from the stage. Indictments 2, 3, and 4 were unleashed with progressively worse results. They convinced millions of Americans that the whole thing really is a fraud.
That’s why Pence/Hutchinson didn’t work. Well, that, and Pence is a provable traitor and Asa Hutchison is a complete joke. No sane person leaves Trump for the guy who stabbed him and the country in the back or the guy nobody heard of.
They’ve given up on IA. Nobody is talking about it. Trump probably wins NH by 30-40%. Then he trounces Haley in her “home” state. This is basically over by Super Tuesday, and they can’t count on Jack Smith to deliver his kangaroo trial by then.
They’re also out of time to insert Youngkin. Kemp is a Pence-like figure who covered up election fraud.
All of this strategy was predicated on the indictments breaking Trump’s bond with voters. You hear it in Christie’s whining, “We know we are right, but they (MAGA) won’t listen.”
It hasn’t dawned on any of them that they are horribly, spectacularly, gloriously, wrong. On everything and at every level.
And keep in mind voting hasn’t started yet. Trump will massively out perform his polling. I bet by 10% or more.
We just have to do our part. This isn’t just about winning. This is about DESTROYING THEM.
Get your revenge. Vote Trump. Even if you’re in a non competitive state, vote. They have to believe with every fiber of their being that we intend to wipe them out.
and if possible, if not too late in everyone’s individual States, volunteer to work the polls, whether early voting, election day, even counting, as many eyes and ears as possible, let the ‘system’ know we citizens are all over this.
Good suggestion. For us it would be camping out in front of the county clerk’s office for a week, making sure every employee walking in or out got a solid look in the eye since, well, we have no polls.
And take digital recorders, as body cams (to wear) and even ball point pens to leave lieing around,…
PREACH IT, brother or sister! Amen.
That comment is going into my ‘Hokkoda’ file tout de suite!!
I am not ready to boot Vivek to the curb. If put in charge 0f draining the swamp, I believe he will do a better job than Trump did in his first term! It is not his time but would like to see him in a critical role in Trump’s cabinet with responsibility to drain the swamp, starting with DOJ, FBI and CIA. Vivek is detached from the DC swamp and has the knowledge and balls to get the job done!!
“DOJ, FBI and CIA”
Lessor drainers can do that. I would sic him on the DOD.
Irrespective of Ramaswamy, I believe any American can lay claim to “our American first movement.” It hit me wrong criticizing him for that. I don’t own it, you don’t own it, even Trump doesn’t own it. “America First” is bigger than even Trump.
Now. You want to criticize Ramaswamy? Go for it. I’ll never vote for him, but he’s very likable. Is he a deep state plant? I don’t know. He’s not going to be President, I know that much.
He came out of nowhere, and is running for president. May not win this year, but in the future? Deep State plays the long game, remember.
I love it!
Vivek gets a big platform on talk radio. Alex Jones has him on frequently. Beck and several others have succumbed to the fast talk. My guess is he’s in the ring for reasons we may never know about. But an IC operative makes sense to me.
What an arrogant…condescending underbite
I have really liked a lot of what he says but I have no idea who he is because there is no history to back up his words.
We all know who President Trump is and what he has done. Results matter.
And stop calling the Speaker of the House MAGA Mike…
it is disgusting even to hear those words spoken.
I see that disgusting term used on CFP all the time, which makes me wonder about the veracity of that website.
I got banned from there for posting the truth on DeLoser 🤣
After that, it seemed the support for him quieted down quite a bit. 😊
Then, no more comments, always wondered what happened with that…
Too much DeLoser bashing? IDK
This is why I said only vote for Trump, no one else.
Never even gave him a thought. There are ZERO politicians (professional liars all) who can be trusted.
Donald Trump is NOT a politician, he is one of the very few candidates in history who cannot be bought off or bribed. And any so called republican who is not backing him 100% is most likely taking orders & bribes from the deep staters.
It’s either Trump Wins or America Loses. Beat The Cheat 2024, Vote Trump or F-off!
First time I saw the splinter strategy was Ross Perot. He was slick with his charts and similar ‘matter of fact presentations.’
This will be as successful as ‘Dumb and Dumber To’, which also starred two Anti-Trumpers as well.
Some of Vivek’s proposals are even more sweeping and reformative over/against the DS than Trump’s. So Vivek states that “they” will never allow Trump back in the White House. If so, then why does Vivek think they’d let HIM into the White House????
The only logical answer I can come up with is that Vivek is decepticonning, and doesn’t really intend any of these uber-Maga proposals. If someone can suggest a more charitable answer, I’m open to hearing it.
I never trusted Ramamaswampy and he never got much support from the patriots across this country.
BUT what I really enjoyed was him calling out members of the media and slamming the Bidens, the left wing blowhards and their destructive policies, as well as his ripping into left wing politicians, and his sharp wit in tearing up the communists and leftist reporters.
That has been fun.
He very well could be an intelligence asset.
He may not be though – how the hell do we ever find that out?
Now, all that said, Ramaswampmaster has one very good point. What do we do if Trump is not allowed to run? What if the deep state removes him Kennedy style? What is our back-up plan?
We need a backup plan. Failing to prepare is preparing to Biden / Newsome (fail).
Back up plan!!! You know something I don’t? My plan is for PDJT TO BE SWORN IN AS THE NEXT POTUS.
^^^This
And lots of 🙏🙏🙏
It doesn’t matter to me HOW it happens. Either PDJT enters the Oval in Jan 2025,…or he doesn’t.
If he doesn’t, we move into a new territory where politics ceases to matter, at all.
Hence, VR’s suggestion that we need a plan”B” and that he is it? Forgetaboutit!
They deprive US of our second term of PDJT, and look at whats going on in Germany right now, thats what our plan “B” looks like.
We SHUT IT DOWN.
That is a good backup plan actually dutchman.
It’s probably how things will go down after all is said & done.
The deep state will pull out all the stops to prevent Trump from re-gaining the presidency.
So barring a Trump victory where he actually takes office, the Germany method / plan looks to be our plan B at the moment.
Who is Ramaswamy to say, “our America-First movement“?
He knows he will never beat Trump, so he’s playing for his next best option, sucking up to a shot at the VP position. Starting his ass kissing early, gambling that the VP slot will be filled as it has in the past, by selecting from the field of candidates who showed well in the primaries. Good luck with that, Mr. Wall Street.
No, the VP slot has been filled by whoever the RNC dictated to the Nominee that he must take.
I’m pretty sure nobody is going to be dictating a damn thing to Donald Trump.
We do need other people to lead the MAGA movement. I thought Kari Lake showed promise, and then the voting shenanigans happened again.
Vivek is young, highly successful, and a tiny bit full of himself.
I listened to some of his interview w Dr. Jordan Peterson. He claimed to have unique legal insight that allows the chief executive to conduct mass layoffs (worker protections for one don’t supposedly translate into protections for hundreds or thousands). And he claimed his wife is one of the top doctors in the country / world in her area of expertise, yet she’s just a few years out of Residency? Please, she’s no Dr. Ben Carson (yet).
Chalk this up to youthful exuberance. At this point, I don’t see him as an intelligence asset. We’ll see.
P.S. Some think he’s VP material. Sundance has suggested 2 possible African American VPs for President Trump.
At his Townhall meeting on faux,PDJT announced he has selected his VP. Didn’t want to announce it yet…
IMO, he’s not eligible for VP, let alone President.
His parents were not citizens when he was born. Can you say anchor baby?