Rather than write 10,000 highly specific and legally granular words to deconstruct the Trump indictment, I will share the opinion of others with supporting analysis and add some substance to the issues. Later I will compile all the various points of analysis into one very granular article.
First, it is important to always remember why this indictment is taking place. The DOJ, specifically Lisa Monaco, are continuing the offensive against Trump in large part to cover for the actions of the Obama administration in the originating targeting of their political opposition. Originating Spygate operations (’15-’16), Russiagate (’16-’17), Mueller (’17-’19), Impeachment #1 (’19-’20), Durham (’19-’23) and Jack Smith ’22-present, are all part of one long continuum of weaponized DOJ and FBI operations. The entirety of the effort is to protect the actions taken by the Obama administration. [Note to congress: Questioning Durham this month is defense key #1]
In this interview {Direct Rumble Link} Jeff Clark gives his opinion of the statutory weaknesses that exist in the case as outlined in the indictment. The first two defense approaches will likely be: (1) the Presidential Records Act supersedes the issues of document holding as noted in the use of the Espionage Act. (2) However, if the Espionage Act [Statute 793(e)] has to be defended, the originating issue of “unauthorized possession” will be the second approach heading to the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals. WATCH:
Granular note, putting aside the fact that classification is irrelevant to the statute being used, within the indictment please notice how the DOJ states 102 classified documents [pg 27], some that were never marked classified as noted in the indictment [count 11, page 30] but defined as classified after DOJ review, were discovered after the Trump affirmation of compliance in July 2022. This is the predicate for the FBI raid. Again, a total of 102 documents were identified as classified by the FBI/DOJ.
They were unable to use classification status as a legal mechanism to attack President Trump; instead, they use the non-production as an evidence enhancement to the ridiculous claim that Trump lied to them (sec 1001); but notice how there are only 31 documents [31 counts] outlined as national defense security issues. This would mean approximately 70 classified documents are memory holed by this special counsel.
70 defined “classified” documents retrieved, no description provided, those documents not a part of any legal contention – they just disappear. I suspect we know what those sets of documents pertained to, and they have everything to do with DOJ and FBI conduct in Russiagate.
CTH has a years-long research library on all of these Trump-Russia investigative issues, including the in-real-time background stories that encompass them, and that library is massive.
If you have a specific question, ask me in the comments section and I will do my earnest best to review and answer.
Tell me what questions you have, and I will do my best.
Be of good cheer, I really don’t think this indictment will past the first defense challenge, The Presidential Records Act.
Trump greatest achievement was kicking Hilary Clinton ass in 2016.
I officially have, “President Trump Indictment Fatigue.” The over reporting is crushing. The only redeeming parts are, it keeps President Trump’s name out there, and displays the left’s verbal venom. How do they look into a mirror???
This is ludicrous; a waste of bandwidth, tax-payer money, and, a crush on our once Constitutional Rights. It’s just so hard to take, especially against a man who stabilized our country.
I’ve already voted for President Trump three times (one Primary and two Generals) and fully intend to do so in 2024.
if, in the meantime, I turned into a lib, I’d vote for him from many different counties, States and from some unnamed graveyard. Alas, I am but one pretty stinking offended American citizen who will crawl over broken glass to vote MAGA!
One man, one (LEGAL) vote. God bless you, President Trump!
They surely do intend to fatigue us, and to blame our Champion for it, but we will not relent!
It is apparent to me that this country is abundantly blessed by people who love it, value it’s people, and the Constitution and what that document means to our culture, legacy and life. By standing firm, bringing truth to power, we the people, with footnotes, insight, and accuracy…we the people are blessed to receive such information. Thank you, Sundance. God speed, be blessed.
I think it is safe to say that the 70 “memory holed” documents were found in Trump’s office. The others in a box, or boxes, in the storage room, and NONE were found in boxes in the shower, bathroom, ballroom, etc. since what was displayed in the chart, found in the indictment, for the 15 boxes surrendered to NARA (197), the (38) surrendered by grand jury subpoena (which only demanded documents with classification markings as set forth in the subpoena), and the 102 found in Trump’s office and in storage room boxes.
I always thought the ones in Trump’s office were the ones declassified and were Crossfire Hurricane documents he used to develop his lawsuit. They were also the ones in the “white bankers box” that David Ferriero saw Trump’s group carrying to Marine One for the flight to AF 1 for the return to Mar-a-Lago. Trump cared about those being packed for the trip. The others were unknowingly packed at the White House, and unknowingly sent to NARA to start the whole thing.
I’m convinced the pictures the DOJ is leaking were staged by them. As meticulous as DJT is, I don’t believe for a second that he stored his records in a bathroom. Especially when you consider that his storage area was inspected prevously and was only told to install a better lock. This is total BS
I have to agree. I think it’s a swipe by the H Clinton people that her bathroom server is being ignored.
Great observation. Thumbing their nose. Add to that Hillary actually speaking up and fund raising off Trump’s Indictment, and you get that this is a powerful intentional statement by the Power that they are fully and totally in charge.
This explains why DOJ and FBI refused to allow Trumps attorneys to be present during the “search”
There is also the thing about so few documents being left (102), with likely 70 of them being the Crossfire Hurricane docs in Trump’s office. This leaves 32. Who in hell would move all those boxes around when all you had to do is find the remaining 32 docs and hide them somewhere. Why move all that around? As they run low on docs, their stories get more ludicrous.
I’d be willing to bet that DJT has copies of everything stashed for reprisal when he becomes President again!
I am thinking the same thing that those pictures were staged by the FBI just like the documents on the floor they released after the raid last year.
… Or on the stage in the ballroom for ALL his guests to peruse while enjoying one of DJT’s many events.
SD, for the sake of this nation’s future, I hope your “years-long research library” is locked down in a SCIF whose address is known only to you (and your dead man switch).
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IF GenEarly take is correct, then ugly is the only way this can possibly go.
Tin foil hat wearers will be vindicated.
But the sounds of “I told you so” will be drowned out by the screams and moans of many, many people dying.
I believe you are lost.
Does Trump still have closed circuit tv of the Mar a Lago raid?…………
Yes. The FBI asked some staff to turn off the video, but it remained on. Apparently President Trump and his family watched the raid as it occurred. Last year the FBI asked him to hold back releasing it saying making the video public would endanger the FBI agents involved.
Oh, I may have misunderstood your question. I haven’t heard that they confiscated it. President Trump has been quoted in interviews about the cc tv video, but you raise an interesting question.
The FBI can gth but the video can always be released with faces pixilated.
The feds have no expectation of privacy when they operate in public. Their faces should be shown.
Time for another booster.
Ever notice how apoplectic Bill Barr gets over the exposure of these documents. BOTH PARTIES WERE INVOLVED IN THE RUSSIAN COLLUSION HOAX DISGRACE & COVERUP. NEITHER PARTY wants these documents to ever see the light of day. Always remember who MADE SURE that LISA MONACO, architect of the Rus col hoax, was confirmed as the #2 at DOJ-MITCH & FRIENDS
It is going to be interesting if President Trump produces a copy of those disappeared documents in court.
Have you noticed how fat Bill Barr has gotten? What is he so worried about?
Food inflation.
(double entendre)
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Could be guilt eating for betraying Trump, if he has a conscience that is.
Barr had the laptop- Barr lied about election fraud.
Then there is WACO- Barr is a traitor.
it is from the huge amount of alcohol he is consuming to calm his nerves about what is going to be exposed about him. That is why he is on the Fake News all the time now.
Bloated Bill Barr and Krispy Kreme Christie have the same affliction:
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Both are striving to look like the RINOs that they are.
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FallRINOs
Flowerbelle,
Thank you, and KEEP REPEATING IT, as often as needed.
The same is true with Bidens corruption; true exposure of Bidens corruption, will expose that McStain and Graham were Mitchs bagmen, in Ukraine in 2014, as well as getting Mitchs cut when Hillary funneled U.S. Weopons to ISIS.
Crossfire Hurricane was not ordered by Hillary; the “insurance policy” to Watergate DJT was concieved and initiated BY Mitch and Paul, and just like IRS/Tea Party, Obama was more than happy to go along.
Very interesting re: paragraph 2.
No it’s one party, the Uniparty.
Bill Barr is a traitor.
I didn’t know Mittens posted here.
So, does a 2009 Executive Order signed by The Kenyan outweigh The Presidential Records Act?
Opinion: I wrote the declassification rules, and they leave Trump largely defenseless
Opinion by Norman Eisen
Published 9:24 PM EDT, Fri June 9, 202
https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/10/opinions/declassification-rules-trump-legal-jeopardy-eisen/index.html
Norm Eisen stayed too long at the fair.
According to CN&N, at least as it pertains to the President Trump presidency, the answer is NO!
“Executive orders and actions pale in comparison to laws passed by Congress”
https://www.cnn.com/2017/01/23/politics/donald-trump-executive-orders-executive-actions/index.html
That is true. The MSM made much of the number of executive orders Trump promulgated. Irrelevant. The only thing relevant is whether or not they ordered constitutional acts. Largely, executive orders are constrained to telling executive agencies and offices how and when to do certain things already authorized/paid for by Congress. For instance, if Congress authorizes money for building maintenance on a military base, the POTUS can issue an EO saying “Paint all the building blue,” because that’s within the scope of something already authorized by Congress. Otherwise, the POTUS can issue EOs based strictly on his authority as it derives directly from the Constitution. Most other EOs are likely unlawful, simply because there are very few other classes of EO that would be lawful. (EOs usurping legislative authority are a good example of unlawful EOs – right off the bat, they would violate the principle of separation of powers, and, in so doing, be an exercise of authority under color of law – because a POTUS has no legislative powers.)
EO 13526 makes the President exempt from “Mandatory Declassification Review.”
In “Navy v. Eagan,” the SCOTUS confirmed that the plenary powers of “The Executive Branch” derive from Article 2. One President can’t change that for his successors.
Operative word: “Plenary.” There aren’t too many uses of that word, but here is one. For the President alone, “there are no rules,” and none can be imposed. Period.
Bingo.
Eisen, what a pompous ass. “I wrote the law” so it is what I say.
What did you expect from “Mr. Color Revolution”?
John Brennan is the Color Revolution strategist leading the pack to denigrate PDJT. This is all about denigrating DJT so voters will flinch and check an alternate box. The voters must stay strong but they historically are sheep.
“The law” cracked me up. It’s an EO.
Almost certainly non-binding. Imagine a president signing an executive order saying a sitting president can’t veto gun control or pro-abortion laws. Obviously, this would have zero effect on a successor president.
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How about never? The FBI is completely compromised.
They should have impeached them a long time ago. When they raided Trump’s home is when they should have started impeachment proceedings.
The GOP is the problem and they always have been. It’s called the uniparty for a reason.
They did not have the House then.
And they wouldn’t technically have it until Jan 2023.
Stop using facts and logic it disrupts from the wild imaginary comings and goings from some folks! 😝
Am I missing something, or am I just my usual dumb self? The court was lied to in order to get the search warrant. The raid wasn’t legal. All evidence collected during the raid is inadmissible. Case dismissed
“The court was lied to in order to get the search warrant. The raid wasn’t legal. All evidence collected during the raid is inadmissible. Case dismissed”
Only in a just system of justice.
Fruit from the forbidden tree is forbidden in court – pretty well establish by law and judicial interpretation.
so was attorney-client privilege until President Trump
If Trump is allowed to have attorneys the DoJ doesn’t suborn, I would expect pretrial motions to exclude all evidence derived from the fraudulently obtained search warrant.
With added emphasis they refused Trump’s attorney request to observe search.
Any chance those 70 documents are revealed as part of the discovery process?
As more and more legal analysts are reviewing the indictment, they are finding holes and deceptive key ommissions everywhere. Despite that, the DOJ was able to make enough of a case, however weak, to get a grand jury in Florida to vote for the indictment.
The “law” and the “truth” do not matter in this case. It is about conviction at any cost, and anything is possible when dealing with a jury pool that was dumb enough to vote for this garbage.
The Star Chamber Court is D.C. – they have to get it there.
I don’t know. There is a recent clip of Kash Patel discussing the prosecutors of the case in Miami that he is familiar with and them having home court advantage there. Maybe it has to do with judges and jury selection, not sure. I find it hard to believe they haven’t planned and schemed it to their advantage somehow.
The judges, prosecutors and lawyers there are all connected in a corrupt web.
As an example my Miami layer was losing all his motions without reason then suddenly one day my opponent got a new lawyer. At the next session the Judge stated to my opponent “ I don’t know why you got a new lawyer as you were winning all your motions“ and following that statement he granted my lawyers motion. The judge and the first lawyer were connected.
Always remember “you can indict a ham sandwich” but getting a conviction is often another matter.
It’s not necessarily about conviction, I think it is more about harassment and distraction. They are throwing everything at him even if nothing sticks. Keeping him and everyone else focused on defending him means less energy available to destroy them. I have always believed that the best defense is a good offense, and so do all these criminals.
Grand Juries are notoriously rubber stampers
That was my experience when I served on a grand jury. Out of twelve there were only two that questioned what we were being told, I was one of them. It made me mad that the other ten just raised their hands. They lacked curiosity. I was not asked to return the next day. Sorry not asked but told not to return.
I would think that is because they only get to hear the prosecutor’s arguments. Especially when they are hearing cases about security classifications and potential national security leaks. Most people’s knowledge of this does not extend pass the last James Bond movie they saw. I am sure the DOJ prosecutor carefully weeded out any potential juror that had any prior exposure to real world intel such as a security clearance while in the military.
I served on a Federal GJ that met weekly for a year and was held over for another year (for sparse meetings). The reason a Grand Jury can indict a ham sandwhich is because the only ones who present the facts of the case are the prosecution. There are 23 members, so if 2 or 3 disagree, the GJ stll has a consensus – they only need 16. In my experience, GJ members take their responsibilities and confidentiality very seriously. They vet you and don’t pick grand jurors the way they pick a trial jury. My GJ peers were mostly engineers, MDs, DMV’s, and other medical professionals, etc.
There was only one case I vehemently objected to and I objected because I didn’t think they had enough evidence for a jury trial. I asked many questions during the presentations of data. When I discussed this with the prosecutor during a break she told me the evidence would stand in trial. It was one of the first cases, if not the first case, of murder conviction for a drug dealer selling lethal drugs to a client. This was near and dear to my heart, since my young cousin died from a drug overdose. I thought the geo-tracking evidence was flimsy and vague and I wanted to see the first case carry real weight. I had no doubt the dude sold the drugs to the client, but the geotracking data they were using did not add up. Sigh…..
Miami– mostly Dem city
Never forget Bill Barr’s role in all this – he is tainted and completely untrustworthy.
His role is key, possibly more so than that turd Jeff Effing Sessions.
By the nature of his comments in recent interviews, Barr seems to have played a key role in crafting the indictment and developing the DOJ’s overall case strategy. He definitely has insider knowledge that could only have been obtained by being involved. If that is the case, a total conflict of interest and a total betrayal of Trump. This case is entirely political and is about conviction at any cost, no matter how dirty.
In the end, I wonder what Clarence Thomas is going to do as he oversees the 11th circuit, and Florida is in the 11th (along with Georgia, with the 2020 election tampering indictment forthcoming). This historic travesty of justice might require a brave historic action by Clarence Thomas to put an end to it.
That is so good to know.
Yes and I’m very sad about that.
Context: This was a reply to a deranged troll, then that post was removed.
I call such posts as the one you just explained “orphans.”
Deranged trolls get picked off and our responses to them either disappear entirely or land as orphans, all alone by themselves, leaving folks scratching their heads and wondering who you’re talking to.
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You and I have been thru this a few times, haven’t we?
I don’t mind as long as ‘they’ get gone
Yeah, the one just up thread of you is our very own Slimer, see how he whines!
Reported, I suspect this one is his sock puppet of the one that got nuked at the top of this sub-thread.
I really think it’s moot at this point, they want Trump gone, they won’t allow him back into the WH, they will imprison/arkancide him to reach that goal
One of our number dubbed such a posting the musings of a Nostradoomer.
She was far too kind.
I think that’s obvious at this point. People don’t want to accept it. It’s maddening to watch people on our side argue the merits of this nonsense as if there is any legitimacy to it.
Now it is time to discusss WHY they want this so badly – that is the curse upon our country and our form of governance.
Why do unelected government bureaucrats want Trump destroyed?
We need to know the full consequences if they succeed in this relentless effort.
He interrupted their massive corrupt feeding trough and removing their “feed”. He is a danger to their entire corrupt construct. His very existence at his job exposed their corruption. Corrupt Republican and Democrat alike want him gone.
On the good side we can rest assured that everyone fighting against him is likely to be a corrupt POS.
God works in mysterious and unexpected ways. No matter how much they want Trump gone, the people want Trump back. The people pay the bills. The congress works for the people. Congress MAY need a reminder. Perhaps the purchase response to Dylan on Bud Light will suffice, perhaps they need to be voted out of office. Then, when all else fails, there is the final power of the people. They do not want to resort to obvious illegal means, they still want plausible deniability, the cover of law.
I seem to recall President Trump mentioning how Millie came to him once with a stupid plan to invade Iran, and that he possibly told Millie an invasion wasn’t happening. Anyone else recall this?
If so, might this be the “map” Pres. Trump is alleged to have shown to unauthorized parties? I know this is kind of a nit, but the media are in a lather over this allegation.
This is what you’re looking
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/06/another-leak-biden-regime-leaks-alleged-trump-audio/
They are saying that at a meeting with Meadows biographers he waved around a document and said “this is it, this is what Milley, wanted to do, which shows that he lied.“
Perhaps he was waving the cover page of a plan which would have shown Milley was a liar. Anything which shows the deep state as liars becomes a national security document.
No photographer takes one picture. Can the others be obtained, Sundance?
Is this what you are asking about?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/obamawhitehouse/albums/with/72157632418300447
This staged photo was taken allegedly Sept 11, 2012. When Obama went missing in action when Benghazi was under attack. Where was Obama between 16:00 and 22:00 on Sept 11, 2012?
No one is still talking. Yet, the world changed during those hours and innocent people were killed and the Benghazi CIA cover-up began.
I created a graphic novel indicating what I think happened that night.
The entire Russiagate hoax was staged because of the server coverup, starting with Benghazi.
https://directorblue.blogspot.com/2013/12/benghazi-comix-is-this-what-happened.html
Also, I have a complete timeline of Benghazi here:
https://directorblue.blogspot.com/2013/05/damning-benghazi-timeline-spreadsheet.html
Have you read Sundance’s Benghazi Brief?
Definitive, not to be missed.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/09/11/the-benghazi-brief-nine-year-anniversary-of-september-11th-attack-in-benghazi-libya/
According to Bongino’s Fri podcast you might not be off the mark.
That’s the photo which enabled us to read the back of the dementia patient’s notes. If I remember correctly, it was very illuminating.
Let’s be clear: The cherry on top is an actual conviction but they all know the objective of this desperate measure is to smear him and eliminate him from running. They think he thinks like they do. Jokes on them. Trump is a fighter that does not give up. He’s very intelligent and understands the field. If I’m Trump, I use their smear against them: “yes! I’ve been convicted several times, I’ve been investigated several more times, I have been impeached TWICE! ALL an attempt to prevent the American public from having representation at the table when it comes to decisions that affect their lives in this country. Everything, ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING that either comes out of their mouths or actions therein are in bad faith and lies. They will smear, ridicule, marginalized, character assassinate, and indict me to self preserve their corrupt ways.”
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This is nothing but an attempt to over the coup d’eat that was perpetrated on our country.
A Question for you Sundance: Is there a documented chain of custody for EACH ONE of these documents?
If not, how do we know what documents were packed and, specifically by name, which individuals did the packing in DC? Same question for Mar A Lago, who unpacked what documents; who refilled those documents into which box?
And the bigger question: Who, by name, at the FBI unpacked, reviewed, entered into evidence and preserved each one of these documents? If Trump’s legal team and/or the courts are not allowed to view which documents are in question, how can we be sure of their origin unless a documented chain of custody? Especially at the FBI? If I were Trump, I would certainly want to include a Trump official as witness at the unpacking.
At this point, I do not trust the NARA, the FBI or DoJ as far as I could throw them. The battle to prohibit a “special master” only heightened my mistrust and only confirms their fear of past corruption being revealed.
Rosco,
I believe Sundance addressed your question in an early posting.
The prosecution is insusting the documents are classified, and are therefore refusing to identify to Trump legal team, or even the Court, exactly what the alleged documents ARE.
The absurdity of the tautologic arguments is readily apperent.
You are guilty because we say so, and because you are guilty you cannot learn why.
The prosecution rests its case.
I have often wondered if the FBI did not purposefully plant documents during the raid, so they could find them. Only a handful of agents, not more than 2 or 3 tops would have to be involved. Then rank and file agents who were not in on it could find the documents. They then could have also removed any really embarrassing documents for Bidden and Obama that may or may not have been classified.
Can the federal Prosecutor not show the classified documents in open court that are the basis for his charges? Can he make the argument because of their level of classification the jury can not see them and they just have to take his word they are classified? Do you think a jury would convict on this basis? Would a reasonable judge allow the unseen documents to be accepted as evidence?
They’ve been completely in their control for months, they could do anything, in the dead of the night if they wished.
Excellent points, trust nobody.
Seems to me that the Lawfare operation created a basis for the charges of not returning documents deemed a “danger to the national security”, by directing the National Archives to pursue return of the documents. Did the National Archives call out any specific documents as “national security” dangers when they negotiated with Trump about returning documents? If so, how did the NA determine that documents met that standard? If they didn’t, how was Trump to know which docs met the standard? How could he willfully refuse to return such docs if he does not believe tham to be danger to the national security?
Whether the docs are dangers to national security or not, when that was determined, by whom, and who gets to make that determination are likely to be major issues.
My free advice to Trump is to subpoena and depose numerous National Archives personnel, demand all their communications and records with any relationship to the case, subpoena, depose, and demand all communications from past and present FBI and DoJ personnel about this — especially Andew Weinstein and other Mueller alumni, Comey, McCabe, Brennan, Strzok, and Clapper. Someone created the idea of how to get Trump and conspired to produce events they could fit to the statutes, wth the non unrealistic expectation that Trump would play into their hands. Showing that the feds conspired to create the whole case might create an impression on at least a few jurors.
I believe it has already been established that the White House asked the NA to start the investigation process, which is not the normal process.
Cherebarkah,
IMHO, you fall into the mental trap of focusing on fighting these rediculous lawfare attacks legally.
They are NOT genuine LEGAL atracks, they are PR attacks, and you FIGHT them ON THAT BASIS.
They are attempting to “file their brief” in “the Court of Public Opinion” and so, while you do take into account the legal arguments in the case, you keep your focus on “the Court of Public Opinion” and get your responce “filed” in that “Court” quickly, loudly and repeatedly; THATS how you counter the “Lawfare” strategy.
I am calling the entire prosecution a “Lawfare” operation, from its conception to setting Trump up, to the indictment to the court case. If you think exposing that would have no effect on the legal case or the court of public opinion, that is your prerogative. Trump needs to win in both venues.
The danger may well have been against the Obama administration playing fast and loose with protected “government secrets”. Like the government data files Obama let his political cronies have access to.
Any documents which expose them as corrupt liars automatically become a “national security documents“ and become relegated to secrecy.
Sundance
The picture of Biden’s hand holds a picture that could be read clearly, if scanned. Do you have a scanned copy?
Dates on any pictures you find could be useful?
What is the name or names of the photographers?
This has already been identified by Sundance as notes taken by Biden during a phone call with Bibi Netyanahu during or shortly after the Benghazi fiasco.
That should get you close on the date.
Sept 11, 2012. When Valarie Jarrett desperately did not want a Blackhawk Down incident to mar Obama’s re-election chances, so they let Benghazi burn and abandoned US personnel to their deaths.
Have you read The Benghazi Brief?
The definitive account, exquisitely documented.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/09/11/the-benghazi-brief-nine-year-anniversary-of-september-11th-attack-in-benghazi-libya/
Where is dear Valerie these days? Surely not still living with the Obamas ?
Allegedly this curiously staged photo was taken during a phone call to Netanyahu on Sept 11, 2012.. when Obama went missing in action between 16:00 and 22:00.
This is the same time period while Americans were getting killed in Benghazi and Cankles and Susan Rice trotted out the “video made them do it” excuse for their deaths, repeating it many times for public consumption.
While covering up what appeared to be an illegal gun running operation to Syrian rebels at a very large CIA base in Benghazi, disguised as a “consulate”.
I’ll not add to comments on the indictment but will recall that Donald Trump plays three-dimensional chess with a mind that leaps well ahead of the current positions.
Thinking now that he is focused on winning in 2024 with an appropriately timed release date of crucial data and named players. Heck, he may already know where the Biden money box is hidden.
So, remember that Wilbur Ross, Secy. of Commerce under Trump, was vice-chairman of the Bank of Cyprus in 2015. So many money paths flow from Russia through Cyprus it looks like an L.A. freeway.
I do have a question, but I do not want to put it here, that could give the dems a clue.
Email address at the top of the page.
Put your name in the subject line with your purpose to help them pick it out of the spam.
Welcome to the party!
To add to Maquis – don’t expect a quick reply or even a reply directly back to your email.
It could come days later as a post or subsection (think paragraph, sentence, graphic or comment) of a post.
Happens all the time.
SD can be a little sneaky sometimes. 😜
Thank you all for your advice, but I think Sundance would not develop it for the same reason, before the end of this prosecution. I mean, the subject is about some deal the parties may conclude to put an end to the witch-hunt .
Sundance is a great information sponge, even if you don’t see where it goes, if you feel it has value it’s never wrong to offer it.
Should the coming monster MAGA vote be able to overcome the uni party ballot fraud in 2024, job one will be fire or send home with pay (when not possible to fire) every last person in FBI, DOJ, CIA, NSA and whatever assorted criminals that reside in DC.
Lock the office doors, shut off power to the server farms, and confiscate all government-owned electronic equipment. In short, go scorched Earth on the unconstitutional fourth branch. Whatever good they still do is 1/10,000th of the bad.
The States can handle the FBI and DOJ roles until we figure out how we can constitute a brand new FBI and DOJ many years later.
The DOD with its ‘outward-focused’ military intelligence can cover the ‘legitimate’ CIA/NSA job, minus the unconstitutional secret police state function that is close to 100% of its apparent focus. That is when they aren’t destabilizing governments and creating unnecessary wars. I’m not sure if we ever want to have another CIA/NSA?
Oh and speaking of unnecessary wars as well as a primary funding mechanism of using foreign aid for offshore bank account kickbacks, the ‘entire’ State Department also needs to be fired and the doors locked. The State Department that reemerges should be less than 10% of the current size and budget, with zero foreign aid capability.
This issue is way beyond the point at which even an uncorrupted court system could solve, let alone a complicit and corrupt one.
Job 2 will be to get rid of the corrupt election system and go back to in-person, ID-checked, hand-counted, paper ballots nationwide. Any State that doesn’t comply will have all Federal funds withheld immediately.
The few remaining absentee ballots must have notarized signatures postmarked on or before election day to be counted.
It will take an invocation of the Insurrection Act to clean out the deep sh8t statists. Anything less will fail to root out the domestic enemy within…
The Trumpster had better be ready…
FDC,,,
FJB
Assuming the 70 or so disappearing documents pertained to, and they have everything to do with DOJ and FBI conduct in Russiagate and further assuming Trump declassified these same docs in Janaury of 2021 before he left office why did Trump not release these documents to the public in the 2.5 years since then?
Expanding on an earlier comment that Donald Trump plays three, four eight leaps ahead and may even know where Joe Biden’s money is parked.
On being confirmed as Secy. of Commerce, Wilbur Ross resigned as Vice-Chairman of The Bank of Cyprus, the cross-road of the world for Russian Oligarch money. It is not unreasonable to think that a name like “Biden”, crossing his view, would be notated and developed.
Just sayin’ a bank has to know where the money is going and The Bank of Cyprus could be the key.
If they took 101 documents and are only charging him with 31, perhaps the judge could ask the DOJ to return the rest
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Rep. Jim Jordan says Joe Biden is interfering in the U.S. Presidential election by censoring Robert F. Kennedy Jr and indicting Donald Trump:
“The White House is working to censor their primary election opponent. Now, they are going to indict their general election opponent. All while Joe Biden has classified documents at four different locations. All while Joe Biden’s family took millions of dollars from foreign nationals. And then, of course, there’s the comparison to how they treated Secretary Clinton.
This is ridiculous what’s going on, and the country understands that and sees clearly that they’ve been out to get Trump in 2016 when it was the Trump Russia hoax, the Crossfire Hurricane, the 2018 Bob Mueller, the 2020 impression of the Biden laptop story with the 51 intelligence officials, and now this.”
Cont…
(Video linked in tweet)…
“Jim Jordan says……. ”
(IMHO)
Always precedes more soundbite material for donation emails and letters.
But
Never precedes any real action that results in changing the score.
Since these approximately 70 classified documents are (by the DOJ’s own admission due to their exclusion from the indictment) not pertaining to national security, is there a way to release them to the public or for the defense to purposely get them entered into the trial record?
Excellent points by Jason Chaffetz
Question?
A key right of the accused is to face your accuser in court.
The prosecutor is using these ‘classified’ documents to support their case and yet ‘nobody’ can see them.
How is that not a clear violation of the accused fundamental rights to examine and challenge any and all evidence presented by the prosecutor?
I have a question. The affidavit for the Raid on Mar-a-lago (which I don’t ever recall seeing) and the warrant would have to explicitly state the things to be searched and seized.
Will the affidavit and search warrant be released now?
Sundance…don’t the feds have to turn over to the defense the 101 doc in question…how can they prepare a defense otherwise????
“Be of good cheer, I really don’t think this indictment will past the first defense challenge, The Presidential Records Act.”
This could be true if we believe that our judiciary and SCOTUS are not corrupt, but then what is the likelihood of that?
Any comment on Dershowitz’s statement:
This indictment is stronger than I anticipated in one respect and in one respect only.
It has the text of a conversation between former President Trump and a writer in which Trump says: Look, I know these documents that I have in my hand are secret. I could have declassified them. I didn’t. Here, I’m going to show them to you to prove my point.
That does seem to be evidence that at least there were some documents that President Trump knew were not unclassified. He had them in his possession.
I consider that statement about Trump’s alleged conversation to be about as truthful as Adam Schiff’s recited transcript of telephone conversation PDJT had with the Ukrainian leader.
In other words, completely unreliable and most likely fabricated.
It almost feels like the Fla indictment is a throwaway!…..the big one will be seditious conspiracy out of DC….I expect they will seek to hold trump in jail prior to trial….I think fla just seems too easy….good venue…good judge ..weak case….thots???
Question. What is their “insurance policy” this time? They can’t rely on conviction because this is more about the constant attacks to cover the actions as you say. I believe they do not want quick trials or convictions. They want never ending investigations and trials so that most judges will never allow disclosure, firing of Wray or Garland, testimony of anyone involved, or any shutting down of any department or agency reform, because, “ongoing investigation” or trial in progress.
And even if republicans hold majorities after 2024, most will be too afraid of “obstruction” to do anything. All the left has to do is start more false investigations late 2024 and this never ends.
How does one shut it down without obstructing?
longtime reader here…just quietly sitting and absorbing all of this amazing information
thank you so much to sundance, as well as many of the regular commenters
my first question is this:
can you explain how crossfire hurricane was ultimately an undercover STING operation?
I’m going to answer my own question.
crossfire hurricane originated back in 2007 as a simple research project. I was tasked to look into the background of barack obama, and simply observe the people and events surrounding the 2008 presidential election.
in 2009, I was recruited to take down a global sex trafficking ring (although I didn’t know this was the reason at the time). I was simply tasked to look into a number of high-profile people in US government, and see where my research took me.
it would not be an understatement to say that I spent nearly 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days-a-year on this. as of may 2023, my research and analysis is complete.
it took me 16 years.
16 years. there’s no person on this planet who could have done this as quickly, as efficiently, or as thoroughly as I have. I lived and breathed this project.
it was kind of like putting together a massive 3D puzzle with thousands of pieces, without knowing what the actual puzzle looked like.
in the meantime, crossfire hurricane was quietly put in place as a highly-complex undercover sting operation.
what’s an undercover operation? it’s a project that’s secret to all but those who are involved.
what’s a sting? a sting is a bit different. it’s an undercover operation put in place to legally gather evidence about a criminal activity. it also includes the recruitment of both law enforcement and regular people who play different roles, such as a “criminal” or “victim”, to help collect information.
here’s what got me thinking that crossfire hurricane was a sting:
I recently learned about the fbi’s black market phones. not too long after, I noticed that dozens of people were being indicted in connection with cryptocurrency. then I read john durham’s “speaking indictments” of igor danchenko and michael sussmann.
along the way, it suddenly dawned on me about the name of the operation itself.
crossfire hurricane = circular firing squad
what’s a circular firing squad? it’s where a group of people surround a target, and in their effort to “shoot” that target, end up “shooting” themselves too. they don’t realize it until it’s too late.
given all I now know, in hindsight, it’s actually kind of funny.
I have a theory about humans – they tend to be creatures of habit. and the longer you allow someone to repeatedly get away with something (criminal), the easier it is to prove intent.
one time can be an accident. twice is not really a “coincidence”. and three times or more is absolutely intentional.
so, yes. the crossfire hurricane operation was a sting – very complicated, decades-long, with many, many layers, and multiple stings within the sting.
in this case, a group of known ciminals are continually given the opportunity to break the law; they’re also given targets to attack…and while the group seemed to get what they wanted, it never really turned out the way they expected. all they ended up doing was shooting themselves in the foot…over and over…while law enforcement collected all the proof they could ever possibly need.
QUESTION BELOW. But so having memory holed the 70 documents, they have a win. That this was worth the further trashing of the DOJ’s reputation, speaks volumes to what those 70 documents contained.
And anything Jack Smith gets, is merely gravy.
QUESTION– The move to Florida was necessitated by tge desire to avoid DC judge Amy Berman Jackson’s 2012 PRA sock drawer ruling being a controlling decision, which it is if heard in DC. Correct?
Questions:
Right now the focus will be on Trump’s latest trial. The Prosecutor has just thrown everything he could think up against the wall to see if something will stick. Most juries will give him a conviction on something on the basis that if all these charges were brought the defendant must be guilty of at least one and if they can convict on one they get to go home.
If you just focus on the charges and trial then you miss the big picture. Back off and look at the big picture to get an idea of what is really happening. To quote a famous fictional detective; ” the game is afoot”. Start asking questions.
(1) Why are the democrats so panic’ d over Donald Trump? Talented Populist have been elected before or risen to positions of power and influence and not caused the degree of panic we are seeing now. Usually the have their day in the sun and the establishment just ignores them or tosses them and their supporters a few bones then go own with their plans.
(2) For a political amateur Trump came into office extremely knowledgeable about what was really happening and what needed to be done and who was really pulling the strings. Granted at times he was brash, too outspoken (marks of a political amateur) and a typical New Yorker man on the street who bluntly tells you what’s on his mind, but what he told you was almost always right.
(3) What really motivated him to run for office? What did Trump know about that the public didn’t that caused him to give up a private life of wealth and comfort for the White House and the ire of the political left wing establishment and the MSM? Why has he chosen to run again? He could have retired from public life and just been a king maker but he didn’t. Is it all just ego or does he believe there is a serious threat to the republic that transcends money and politics that most of us don’t realize is out there or at most see only hints of?
(4) How did Trump come by his knowledge of these things? Ever wonder why he chose General Flynn as his first choice for Chief of Staff? How did he even know about him, he was definitely not a well known high profile person, who ran in Republican political circles? Why were the democrats and their mouthpieces in the MSM so determined to get Flynn before he even got started? Is Trump under attack by the Intel community or just the FBI, Justice department and Democrat department heads that have been appointed by Obama and Bidden?
(5) How did Trump a so-called crude loud mouthed political amateur manage to negotiate a treaty between multiple Arab states and Israel that no one had ever done before? How did he know to use special forces to drive ISIS out of northern Iraq soon after they took over without offending Iraqi sensibilities and their sense of nationalism? Trump apparently had successfully negotiated with the Taliban to stop attacks on American and Afghan forces so he could start a phased pullout from Afghanistan, Why did the democrats let Bidden blow this by simply pulling the military out immediately, leaving equipment and civilians? Granted Bidden is a senile old fool but surely Miley and the Pentagon saw the folly of this. Was it done to try and make Trump look bad alone or was it a deliberate act to sabotage US foreign policy?
(6) Why did the democrats risk investigations, possible jail time to steal the 2020 election? Why did COVID come along at just the right time to get massive mail in voting which makes the election fraud much easier?
You can focus on whatever the MSM is hyping at the moment and pretend all of this is just a conspiracy theory, stick your head in the sand till the steam roller of history flattens you or back off and look at the big picture, no mater how scary and dark it is.
“[T]he Presidential Records Act supersedes the issues of document holding as noted in the use of the Espionage Act.”
You dodged EO 13,526 and there is no contradiction to PRA.
“[T]he originating issue of “unauthorized possession” will be the second approach heading to the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals. “
Those who are in the know are aware of this key question since ten months!
“Tell me what questions you have, and I will do my best.”
I am missing your take to Counts 32-37:
Since the case will probably not be finally decided before the elections, it does not affect a possible candidacy [4]
“Note to congress: Questioning Durham this month is defense key #1”
As J6 indictment is looming, I see 1st priority for Speaker McCarthy to release the full library of J6 footage in order to destroy the Democrats’ narrative.
[1] The President Executive Order 13526 | National Archives
[2] Jim Trusty was a prosecutor three long decades and was appointed by Govenor Larry Hogan to serve on “The Task Force to Study Maryland’s Criminal Gang Statutes.”
[3] trump warrant unsealed – Document Viewer : NPR
[4] For those interested in curios year long cases: Plame affair & United States vs Scooter Libby is one!