The long-term motives and plans of the J6 committee and their coordination with the DOJ are starting to come into increased clarity as the mid-term elections draw near.
A key indicator of the strategy from within the J6/DOJ effort surfaced when the quasi-constitutional “committee” sent a subpoena to former President Trump legal counsel Pat Cipollone, then leaked the subpoena, then leaked the testimony, then shaped, edited and broadcast the testimony during their prime-time broadcast. After the J6 broadcast, attorney Cipollene was then subpoenaed by the DOJ and recent reports indicate he is being called to testify before a grand jury.
The legal strategy, hereafter called by what it is, a Lawfare strategy, is now clear.
The legislative branch, specifically the J6 committee, is attempting to use their self-created legislative legal authorities, to fracture long established attorney-client privileges, and then send the results to the DOJ for use against the client of the attorney. This explains the importance of former White House attorney Lisa Monaco taking up her position as Deputy Asst Attorney General.
The DOJ would be shut down by any ordinary court of jurisdiction, even in the heavily political Washington DC system, if they attempted to get a lawyer to give testimony about his legal advice to a client. It is one of the most basic tenets and legal privileges in our system.
Attorneys cannot be compelled to give testimony against their clients, it is a standard long accepted in our legal system. Any attorney who would break the confidence of the attorney-client privilege would lose their license.
Additionally, as the president, other privileges exist for President Trump, specifically the executive privilege to receive counsel or advice -from any person- on any issue that would pertain toward the administration of the executive office. The president needs to be able to receive information in confidence, and the people giving advice and counsel need to be able to speak freely without fear the content of the conversation would later be used by another entity not involved in the issue at hand.
By compelling testimony to a non-court of manufactured quasi-legal jurisdiction, such as the J6 committee demanding testimony from Cipollone, it now appears the resulting information is being transferred to the DOJ for use against Cipollone’s client, President Trump.
This is an example of lawfare at its worst.
The J6 committee demands testimony and asserts the testimony must be offered without conflict because the J6 committee itself has no criminal authority.
As the issue is argued, the witness cannot be criminally charged by the committee, therefore no criminal liabilities exist for the witness, therefore the testimony can be compelled by the committee (the legislative branch). However, what we are seeing is the committee being used as a legal shield and enforcement tool by/for the DOJ who could never -on their own- force the same testimony.
The result is President Trump legal counsel Pat Cipollone being compelled to testify before a criminal grand jury, and within that questioning he will be asked about about his prior testimony before the J6 committee. Essentially, this is one big Lawfare workaround; and likely a legal and constitutional issue that will end up at an appellate court level or higher.
Political elements within the legislative branch (J6) are colluding with political elements within the executive branch (DOJ), to fracture the constitutional protections that exist not only for presidents’ (exec privilege), but also for all Americans (attorney/client privilege).
In ordinary times, this approach would be a jaw-dropping controversy that would come under rebuke from everyone involved in the media and justice system.
What is being described, well, actually what is happening, is what happens in third-world banana republics when presidents of various political regimes take office and then target their opposition using the state police or military. What is being done under the auspices of the J6 committee and DOJ is an identical scenario using a longer approach that works around the foundation of the U.S. political and legal system.
More alarmingly, there is no one doing anything or saying anything to stop this process. The republican politicians in Washington DC are as willfully blind to the unconstitutional lawfare scheme as they are to the victims of the J6 FBI and DOJ targeting operation who are languishing in DC prisons.
No doubt former President Obama and his crew are laughing as they watch this play out, while the media cheer. After all, these are all former Obama officials who are carrying out the targeting operation. [ SEE WHY HERE ] The Republicans and Democrats created the Fourth Branch of Government as a political targeting mechanism. Both parties are now protecting themselves from discovery of its intent.
It’s pretty obvious that both the democrats and the republicans are making damned sure that President Trump will not be allowed to run in 2024. Both parties are corrupt. They obviously know that Desantis will take his place which makes me worry if our beloved Florida governor is really on the level?
“makes me worry if our beloved Florida governor is really on the level?”
What makes you think he isn’t?
Skull & Bones?
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I don’t think he is, and I believe he’s playing a Trump type character to get elected. Its all an act.
If it’s an act, it’s a good one.
… lets hope he’s gonna keep on actin’!
Just like your acting like the “right to reply” grants gravity or credence to sophomoric pseudo-Socratic postulations? Oops.
“pseudo-Socratic postulations?”
That’s my phrase for the day!
Exactly! Why it’s downright sesquipedalian!
The damage DeSantis is directly inflicting on their entire agenda is very real, and no act would present any measureable resistance upon the advancement of their agenda, let alone crush critical foundations they have to have in place to bring about their totalitarian asperations like lock-downs, masks, jabs, CRT, and the Grooming of children, et al.
DeSantis is laying wasre to their entire agenda, like Godzilla taking a stroll through Tokyo.
So, you’ll have to forgive me,becuase the math just doesn’t add up, and with all do respect, lacking rudimentary discernment.
Love the Godzilla reference, made me smile, thanks!
Everyone seems to forget before running for our governor he spent 6 yrs as FL 6th district rep in the swamp. He returned to Fl intact and replaced Rick Scott.
Have had to hold my nose 3 times to fill in the circle next to Scott.
Sea Island – I’m concerned.
It’s pretty obvious that both the democrats and the republicans are making damned sure that there will never again be an honest election of any consequence.
They are in too deep to back down.
Wouldn’t be surprised if soon we are simply and openly presented with a vetted slate of candidates from which we will be permitted to ‘vote.’
Arizona just turned them back.
Not yet. Wait till the general.
Desantis is on the level, this comment is questionable
Just wish DeSantis would cease using WinRed to handle his campaign donations. That tells me the cash I send may be being diluted by the GOPe.
I agree….WILL NOT use WINRED. Have mailed (with an archaic check) contributions to candidates that we like and added a note why. Have had winred take money from our credit card months down the road without authorization. Good thing we monitor “card not present” activity
It’s an important question that should be asked about every candidate and elected office-holder. One of you reminded me he already served several terms in Congress and didn’t ‘turn.’ My sense is he’s for real. But we can’t afford to trust anyone blindly, not even on the school boards!.
In general, it’s usually kind of obvious when a governor is not on the level. There are exceptions of course: As far as I know, John McCain didn’t become a Dem Trojan horse till late in his second senate term or early in his third. (I was out of the country from 1987-95 so if I missed something, someone chime in and correct me.)
But more commonly, you can spot the posers with a little bit of study.
Gov ‘Grabbit’ in Texas is an example: He’s got a keen sense of when the wind’s is changing. He’s usually able to get out in front, and fool enough stodgy grassroots voters into thinking he’s for real. That’s how he won the primary this year. But everyone paying close attention knows he’s a RINO at heart.
Ducey, the lame duck gov in AZ, is identical in character but he lacks Grabbit’s keen instincts, indeed any instincts at all. For example he appears to have no clue how widely despised he is. Consequently he didn’t realize that his endorsement of Robson would backfire badly and help hand the election to Lake.
*when a governor or national office holder is not on the level.
Glad someone brought this up. Attorney client privilege. Also the J6er whose son was used to jail his dad, there is this little clause which says a child or spouse can not be forced to testify against the father, spouse. My question is, was this kid covered or managed into this scheme.
If it’s the son I think you’re talking about, that whack job was bragging about turning in his own father after seeing his dad’s videos from inside the Capitol. He’s a Marxist pig and social media darling because of his betrayal. He was not “compelled” to do anything, he volunteered.
Spouse privilege does not extend to the parent-child relationship, anyway.
Not a lawyer here, but I’ve heard of spousal privilege many times, along with attorney-client, physician-patient (extended to therapist-client), and priest-penitent (confessional privileges (extended to pastor-parishioner even though Protestantism has no rite of confession, we are all supposed to confess to our fellow co-covenanters if we have sinned against them).
I’ve never heard of a parent-child communications privilege. A reason I can imagine for this is, husbands and wives are supposed to freely communicate with each other, which often involves discussions that their children are not privy to. But again, I’m noot a lawyer.
In the Cipollone case, attorney-client privilege cannot be breached by Congress, nor anyone else. For example if, in talking with my attorney, I asked him about another client’s confidential communications, my attorney would tell me that information is privileged.
I think Sundance may be conflating two things: a person who has immunity from prosecution, e.g. he has been acquitted of a crime, he can be forced to answer questions in a subsequent civil suit that would have been incriminating in his criminal trial, because now double jeopardy would apply; or if a “little fish” been granted personal immunity for admitting committing crimes with a “big fish”, and the prosecutors’ target is the “big fish”. But unless, Cipollone was conspiring with Trump to commit a crime, which is a non-privileged criminally-punishable communication, neither Congress nor DOJ/FBI can require Cipollone to disclose his and the President’s lawful attorney-client communications.
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Well sure are making a good imitation of one,
“Not a lawyer here”
1st: Cippilone *was* compelled by Congress via J6 committee.
2nd: Sundance didn’t conflate anything. He accurately describes the deliberate, conspiratorial process by which Congress and DOJ are penetrating atty/client privilege.
And, perhaps, his memory is faulty, not being able to recall anything.
They have always treated President TRUMP this way, staring with Michael Cohen, then Rudy G, and now Cipalone.
Cipallone should sue to quash grand jury subpoena. Trump should too.
These people are so crooked that it is almost unbelievable that it has gotten to this point of rampant, blatant, and unadulterated malfeasance in office.
AZ Military showed a page from Gephardt Group Government Affairs, Ltd. showing that Nancy Pelosi’s foundation has received more than $3 million from Taiwan institutions between Feb, 2018 and April, 2022. Makes you wonder if she was touching base with her donors to hit them up for more money when she visited Taiwan.
https://t.me/azmilitary11/12858
I thought foreign contributions were verboten. Silly me, she’s a dem!
The Cheneys, McConnells and Bushes likely enjoy a similar exemption on funding sources.
Now there’s an array of self-important stuck up narcissistic grifter scumbag loser bought and paid for moron Constitution soul-selling cretinous reprobate professional liars and thieves.
FILTHY LIBERALS.
I really enjoy the Rap tune-“BLAM BLAM, BLAM TIL THEM FALL. I guess we’ll wait until they put President Trump in Prison. Then, we will maybe think of possibly sort of doing something. Meanwhile, I await the BLAM BLAM..FJB
I don’t understand why he can be “forced” to testify. Do they even have the authority to demand that?
the simple answer is yes, the law provides exceptions..in this case it would appear the exception deals in the area where the attorney and client are engaged in present or future criminal acts. example: client tells attorney, yes, I shot the man a year ago. That is actually protected by law. However, if the attorney and client are communicating in this way: “I am going to shot the dude tomorrow and I would like your advice on how to get away with it” that is not protected and there is no priviledge.
But here is the conundrum and even SCOTUS cases have had a difficult time navigating this situation:
how does law enforcement KNOW that a crime or an intent of crime occur between an attorney and client?
In the cohen case for example, the basis of the raid on President Trump’s attorney was not (strangely) not related to a visible crime but some other matter. The court ruled that any communications between Cohen and President Trump would not be allowed heard as evidence UNTIL A COURT MASTER WOULD REVIEW THE MATERIAL AND MAKE A DETERMINATION WHAT IS PROTECTED AND PRIVILEDGED AND WHAT IS NOT.
How does law enforcement get knowledge of and evidence of any kind of criminal communications between attorneys’ and clients?
that Answer will be shocking to most Americans: The court is very liberal in approving warrants. These warrants can be seen as door openers to what should otherwise be a firewall to prevent a police state from jackbooting citizens.
But that is exactly how our justice system operates. This was predicted long ago, when the courts and rulings gave way too much confidence in law enforcement to set limits and be self regulating.
Now it a rubber stamp: we need a warrant because he looks funny. Court: here you go…have at it. If we hit a snag, we’ll figure out how to get to the next step in conviction.
this is NOT the America I identify with.
We are innocent until proven guilty.
no warrants should be issued until a crime has been proven with evidence of said crime.
attorney client privacy with firewalls prevents a tyrant police state.
and that is exactly what we have.
I am not surprised congress has openly declared war on the rule of law.
there are law breakers after all.
This will not end well for these DC idiots. They are about to open up a world of pain for themselves…each and every single one will pierced on this petard and that seems to be lost on these morons.
God Bless America
TY
So I’ll ask the question again. Where is a Conservative, counter organization, that will fight the Lawfare octopus that virtually controls our legal system? Isn’t there anyone out there who isn’t afraid to go ahead to head with a lefty, progressive Tribe member, Oberlin College hack like little Benjy Wittes???
Stephen Miller. Former Trump advisor now running America First Legal.
https://www.aflegal.org/
Also ACLJ to some extent.
https://aclj.org/
Yes!
It would be far easier if an army of Peppermints handled this.
It’s difficult to fight when the courts refuse to hear your arguments. That has happened more so than not to Trump and his team and then liberals always proclaim there was no evidence to support trump or his teams position but the problem in most cases was that the court refused to look at the evidence. How does one defend against the crooks if the courts refuse to to even pretend to do their job?
my understanding (limited but informed regardless) of the attorney client privilege is actually
A RULE OF EVIDENCE.
It’s not simply some tradition, nor it is simply some arbitrary invention. It is ancient and it is crucially consistent with constitutional law.
Here is why:
It prevents lawyers from testifying about, and from being forced to testify about, their clients’ statements. Independent of that privilege, lawyers also owe their clients a duty of confidentiality.
This is a fundamental cornerstone of the entire justice system.
The purpose underlying this privilege is to ensure that clients receive accurate and competent legal advice by encouraging full disclosure to their lawyer without fear that the information will be revealed to others.
Again, this is a rule of evidence.
There are a few exceptions: chief among them that the communications itself was IN PURPOSE OF COMMITTING A CRIME.
Where is the crime? What crime has the attorney and the client committed?
crickets.
this is an attempt to muddy the rule…congress is attempting to claim subpoena power to go fishing for evidence of a crime that the attorney and the client committed IN COMMUNICATION.
the only problem with that (a very big one)?: there is no evidence that any crime WAS committed.
If this were not true, the DOJ would have certainly already charged the attorney and the client with a crime.
But the DOJ has not done this. Thus we can be sure there is no evidence of a crime.
the purpose of this manipulation of the law is to provide the DOJ with access to communications it would never have and no court would ever allow.
How can a person receive due process, to be held innocent until PROVEN innocent when the attorney representing them could be compelled to provide testimony that would invite criminal evidence towards the client?
historically it appears to be first recognized in the 16th century.
Only a few nation states do not recognize attorney client privilege. The few that do not have the same common denominator: tyrant regimes, oppressive communist and lawless third rate shitholes. Now, you can add congress to that list of knuckle draggers.
This was one of the reasons why many terrorists were released without charge just 20 years ago. The FBI was recording live communications between client and terrorists. Rather than PROVE the cases in a court, the FBI flipped the law on its backside and did the unthinkable. Every single one of these cases were reversed. Surprisingly, not a single FBI agent was held to account. Think about that: sabotaging what would otherwise be a relatively easy case to prosecute and find a terrorist guilty, but spying on the attorney communications to do what? save time? make it a slam dunk? it’s stupid and it’s unlawful. What a wasted effort. We have dozens of terrorists who never were held to account simply because the FBI decided to behave like criminals!
This was one of the first moments when I realized that the scale of lawlessness with central government. And trust me, I have no fondness for terrorists. But that is exactly how you burn a case! And they made little effort to conceal the spying. It was lawless and sloppy.
Now we have CONGRESS AND THE DOJ OPENLY DEFYING this privilege! Refusing to abide by it. Openly!
These corruptors are not only treating OUR PRESIDENT like a terrorist, they are literally burning down the constitution to remove him from the political world.
This is not the America I identify with. We have impostors who have staged a coup and now are attempting to destroy the very fabric of our constitution.
That alone makes them my enemy.
And I will not rest until every single one of these scumbags gets a hard lesson, a street lesson, in justice.
It will be painful, and it will be brutal and it will be televised.
It’s coming…stay frosty.
God Bless America
From what I’ve seen from Attorney Cipollone and Peter Navarro, after they come before this corrupt J6 committee, committee members will pack up and ship themselves off to their own military tribunals.
Oh, be still my beating heart! THAT would make my day, and should be declared a national holiday, if true!
l hope you are right. I’m waiting – pitchfork at the ready.
It’s late, (in more ways than one), I’m not even reading any comments, as I normally do.
Just reading this piece, and the research I have done over many decades, my gut feeling (which my psych professor always said to trust 99.9% of the time…that was before WOKE)..
Donald J. Trump the man and President Donald J. Trump knows all of the above and has for a very long time, (many years before 2015).
Why do you think he is doing what he is doing? Anyone here sitting on a limb really watching daily and paying attention to what President Donald J. Trump is doing? Do you pay attention to what he is saying? Have you been receiving his messages?
I’m not at all concerned.
Pat Cipollone knows what is going on, as do all the other Trump administration officials who are now being targeted for persecution, just as the J6r’s are being persecuted…this is all lawfare political persecution and they are all well aware of it.
There is a certain way of handling these types of persecutorial cases, I believe.
However, they (the victims of this 3rd world tactic) are NOT going to give away their hand and they are NOT going to give in or give up.
From my perch here, they seem to be ahead of the game, ahead of schedule and underbudget.
I will never get tired of winning, winning, winning!!!!!
They must have realized this was a potential action from the uniparty after Nov 2020 and acted accordingly as every attempt against them has fallen to the wayside.
But they are certainly stoking anger among the populace and maybe that is a feature, not a flaw, of their “plans.”
So, trust the plan?
I believe there is a DC grand jury looking into J6 and President Trump’s role. Since DC is swamp central and loaded with Democrats it’s easy to see an indictment coming down from the grand jury and if that happens then President Trump will be trapped in the corrupt DC Circuit Court which is run by obama Judges. It’s also easy to see a jury of Hillary and obama lovers who just happen to be President Trump haters convicting no matter the evidence it’s called the “Lawfare strategy”!! Taking control of the DC Circuit Court by Democrats and the deep state has already shown its political viciousness, vindictiveness dealing the J6th trespassers!! They would love to give President Trump the same treatment!! I hope and pray it doesn’t come to this but if Kari Lake’s win holds up the Democrats and deep state will become ever more desperate!!! God help us! Hosanna!
What about the USSC, for what it’s worth?
Remember when Senator Harry Reid packed those DC courts by throwing out the long standing voting requirements for all “but the Supreme Court”? Then the liberals went bananas when McConnell ignored the dems rules and allowed a simple majority to fill the supreme court seats. Boy did they howl Bloody Mary then.
True but control of the DC District Court by activist obama Judges has lead to the J6 protesters being jailed and convicted of felonies for basically trespassing and now is a problem for President Trump! The Democrats and deep staters who love to perp walk President Trump like they did to Roger Stone and the activist obama Judges will gladly oblige!!
Didn’t Kevin McCarthy have a big say on who sat on this kangaroo committee ? He is in big trouble in the future if he could have stymied this shit show.
McCarthys in on it but likes to try to seem like he isn’t.
Can’t he simply respond to every question with “I am not at liberty to answer that”?
Or, “I can’t recall.”
Turnabout is fair play after all!
Hate to be one of the doomsayers on here, but it’s very hard to read this and not think that we’re headed into a terrible tough time in this country, there’s just no way this ends well. And no, we’re not going to vote our way out of it.
Their biggest problem was and is that DJT hasn’t done anything wrong. He is the cleanest man to ever reside in the swamp. Every aspect of government has been trying to find dirt on Trump since he entered the primaries. If there was anything questionable in his background, they would have found it.
Think Lavrentiy Beria.
Jonesy, you know history. Glad to be one of your students here.
You are more than kind, Yinzer, my friend. You have made me smile and I thank you.
What legislative purpose is served by forcing a president’s attorney to testify? Or by examining the phone records of a radio host?
The fact that the GOP is not LOUDLY condemning these abuses tells you everything you need to know about the GOP. They’re 100% A-OK with the abusive garbage coming out of Pelosi’s committee. It’s incredible destructive.
I grow ever more convinced that this will end only one way..
Thank you, neocon globalist Dick Cheney, for proclaiming Trump as the biggest threat to our country in over 200 years.
That is the highest endorsement for Trump’s continued success.
Cheney is the ultimate globalist, war monger profiteer. How many deaths is he responsible for ? How many American service members were blown up and maimed so this piece of human excrement could profit?
Bring it on.
As president:
Only one man represents the people. Only one man proved his total support for this country.
Look at the patriots who just won elections —
MAGA candidates!
God bless Donald Trump!
God bless the USA!
Remember all the reports of people who foolishly went bird hunting with Cheney only to come out scared to hell with bird shot in their clothes as Cheney had no real regard for their safety and shot over their heads, and in front of them. That tells you a lot about the character of Cheney – it’s all about him.
When I heard that ad, I was reminded that when a person of Cheney’s ilk says “our democracy” he is not referring to our American Constitutional Republic but instead a globalist “democracy.”
I am also encouraged that so many at this time who are paying attention have also learned this and only see the propaganda.
With Lake’s victory, the criminals will get more desperate. See Sinema’s timely agreement to vote yes on the spending bill. How they will stop Trump, I’m not sure but they most definitely will. DeSantis is a true warrior, in my view, but if and when he fills the space vacated by a disenfranchised Trump, DeSantis political shelf life will be cut short as well. If the criminals can somehow manage to hang on, then a full on board master-slave relationship will replace our republic. We must save ourselves. There is no Calvary coming….
And PRAY!
You know what would shove law fare into oblivion? MOBS!!!
Republican politicians need to look at who swept the board on this week’s elections.
After donating to the RNC for years, it was quite clear that the Republican Party increasingly does not support the peoples interests.
Additionally, the cheating is not being ignored in these elections —even where MAGA candidates won.
Either represent us, switch to the party you truly align with, or lose.
We are watching. We see who you are.
Look what happened when the British Empire took on Mahatma Gandhi. Making a martyr out of Trump will not make his followers fade away. We are increasing in number. We are fighting for our country. We are fighting for freedom.
I have only donated directly to candidates for over two decades now. Never really thought donating to “the party” was really in my local interests.
I can not believe the Republicans are going along w/ this…Almost makes me think they are in on this process also!
You are a little late to the party, John.
The Uniparty!
America is a banana Republic – no different than Venezuela and Iran. Dick and Liz Cheney are directly responsible for trashing America.
It’s coming….
Keep playing scumbags….
Our time approaches..
And when it’s upon you…..
NO MERCY!
DECLARATION:
“It is their right, their duty, to throw off such a government…”
“Throw off” = by force, legal or lethal.
Exactly!
But remember that this sword cuts both ways. When either Trump or DeSantis gets into office is 2025 and the GOP takes both the House and Senate, this will be the precedent to go after Obama, Biden, Clinton(s), Pelosi, Harris, Schumer, et al. With Trump’s proposed revision to the Civil Service protected senior employees, they can install hard-core MAGA supporters that will use the power of their collective offices to lance the pustule of The Swamp.
one of my great-grandfathers and several great-uncles were stone masons/bricklayers – they would from time to time, due to the nature of their work, with the straps of the overalls rubbing on the shoulders, would get dreadful boils or what they used to call ” carbuncles” – but great-grandma had a ready solution for that – she would get a pan of boiling water going on the stove (the pan used for sterilizing jars for canning, I think) . . .
she would plunge a Coca-Cola bottle (or similar glass bottle) into the hot boiling water and then take it back out again with her tongs, wrap a thick towel around it and then press the mouth of the bottle against the carbuncle – whoosh! the entire thing would be sucked out and into the bottle – core and all – not even any lancing. Very nice.
My grandmother did that also, heating on her wood stove (in the 1950’s mind you).
Depends on who leads the two houses. Look how bad Mitch has been so we must get better house snd senate LEADERS put in place instead of the dirty old RINOS.
They (the Uniparty ) has gotten so bad and so bold they are now doing exactly whatever they wanna do right out in the open.
And then our state department got the nerve the audacity to call other out other countries.
I refuse to be loyal to this sorry mess of a government
It doesn’t in any manner represent who we really are as a people.
This is not gonna end well for anyone in this country if they don’t back off on MAGA and Trump.
Quite frankly I’m so ready to burn Washington DC to the ground and all parasites destroyed.
Everlasting fire infinite punishment sounds just about right for these vermin.
How long, how much longer ???
Must be careful what you post; more so these days than in the past. They tabulate your likes and agreement with statements and other posts. I’d upvote a lot more but due to this I often refrain.
DOJ isn’t after Trump, per se. DOJ is after YOU and your FREEDOM.
They want you to become their subject, serf, and tax paying slave.
I’ve read that if Trump is arrested and Americans don’t exercise their 2A rights to target everyone in every organization that had a hand in such treachery, then America as we knew it is over.
Why do you think so many of the agencies are arming up?
the great Sundance buried the lede here: at the end of this missive he makes the most important point:
“republican politicians in Washington DC are as willfully blind to the unconstitutional lawfare scheme as they are to the victims of the J6 FBI and DOJ targeting operation who are languishing in DC prisons”.
Anyone supporting the rank (pun intended) and file (R) traitors holding office in DC simply must be considered a Traitor along with those whose silence and inaction equals assent and complicity. Commie-Mitch (who has gotten wealthy from the CCP kickbacks to his wife) and Moron McCarthy–his toady in the House–and their minions are the true enemies of WE THE PEOPLE, far worse than the Dems who are blatantly honest in their efforts to destroy our Nation, while the (R)s lie about their intentions and the Evil in their hearts.
The R’s are not willfully blind – they are participating in the evil.
AMEN
We are looking at a J6 panel of CRIMINALS subverting the rule of law and our Constitution. They deserve a firing squad.
Was yesterday’s lightening strike on the White House a message sent by Someone with a Higher Power?!
One can only hope.
When evidence or testimony is challenged in court as having been obtained unconstitutionally (fruit of the poisonous tree) it may still be allowed if the prosecutor can show that it would have inevitably been obtained through the course of police investigation.
Often, the thread connecting that evidence with a known piece of legally-obtained evidence is tenuous, at best.
There could be a big gap between the possibility that it could have been found and the likelihood that it would have been found.
It all hinges on the investigators being able to connect the dots.
However, it’s much easier to connect the dots when you first have the whole picture.
Even if SCOTUS ultimately holds that the J6 committee’s use of compelled testimony was an end run around attorney-client privilege, the DOJ may still be allowed to use information obtained through committee questioning IF they can show a connection to other lawful investigatory material.
They know this.
They will keep digging (illegally) until they find something that they can connect (legally) to use against PDJT.
People on this site understand the real enemy of We the People are the small group of super wealthy central bank and corporate owners. They have been pulling the strings in government and corporate board rooms for many decades (centuries?). The only way We the People remain free is by working together protecting each other’s rights and liberties. The small group has decided the rise of populism challenges their position on the top of the food chain. So if we wish to continue enjoying ‘ordered liberty’ we must prevent the erosion of the rule of law and turn the tables of injustice against them. How through free and fair elections and if this fails hen through exercising our second Amendment rights. I am open to othe rideas but I see no other way.
Dick Cheney said in his commercial it is about stopping Trump. Liz Cheney said it is about stopping Trump.
Play your stuipd game and feel like a winner now. Come January when there is no affordable home heating fuel for the Americans this Washington crowd hates so much, I suspect our elected liars R’s especially, will be less comfortable in their home districts while barrell fires are lit in the streets to keep the proles warm at night.
What is happening here will eventually go to SCOTUS. But that will take more time than we can afford. An election will be held and completed, and all will be for naught.
No court in our land, no judge, no appellate panel, and possibly not even the highest court in the land, can be trusted. None. It may well be over.
A truly excellent explication of the Lawfare process going on here. This is why I call the Republican Party the Stupid Party. They really are! Republican politicians never do stuff like this because they are: too stupid, too timid, too feckless, too meek and too cowardly.
DemocRATS get away with this stuff because they own the culture. WHAT IS GOING ON HERE IS THE DIRECT RESULT OF THE GOP ESTABLISHMENT REFUSING TO DEFEND IMPORTANT CULTURAL INSTITUTIONS FROM THE INSIDIOUS LEFT WING/NEOCON CANCER.
They are all more concerned with getting their portion of the graft than doing the right thing.
It will be interesting to see whether a court would admit evidence adduced through the J6 Committee’s complete violation of legal historic jurisprudence norms.
At the end of the day, the DOJ won’t prosecute President Trump because no facts remotely give rise to a criminal offense and the DOJ doesn’t want to be a tackling dummy on the highest profile case it’s ever brought.
After practicing law for 40 years and not needing to continue to do so, a complete destruction of the attorney-client privilege may be enough to trigger me to retire.
So how is this going to be shut down? And by whom? Eventually the leftist scum will get someone to trip over their own words, on record. Then the D-controlled Congress will have an opportunity to create a legislative barrier to any future Trump candidacy.
Lisa Monaco is also an Andrew Weissmann protege and yet another of the villains in my book LICENSED TO LIE: Exposing Corruption in the Department of Justice available at SidneyPowell.com
She was implicated in all kinds of misconduct in the Enron Broadband cases. DOJ and O’Biden have been a revolving door for the worst of the worst prosecutors. Lawfare is right.
Good to see you back Counselor.
I doubt that the UNIPARTY can stop Trump from running. I do not believe that DeSantis wants to run in 2024 as he wants Trump to clean DC first and then he will come in 2028. I believe more and more of the RINOs are going away as I have 2 senators in my state and I am not voting for them. They have done nothing for me or my state, when I have tried to contact them I get nothing from them, and in all they are sending our money to overseas and not clearing debt.
The Republicans better get off their keisters and shout it loud and clear. We’re watching.
They don’t care.
I’m sure he can’t recall a thing!
Scumbags!
It’s pretty clear that from now on, all witnesses should plead the 5th. The claim from the committee would be that the 5th Amendment doesn’t apply because they are not a court of law but if the goal is to get sworn testimony to be used by the DOJ in a criminal investigation, the 5th should accrue to the committee hearings.
I hate those people! What a bunch of disgusting slime balls. No morals, no conscience, no character, no honesty. I hate them.