Do they want a civil war? It might sound good around the DC cocktail party circuit, whipped into a frenzy by the Lawfare crowd, but the outcome would not be in their interests.
Given the severity of manipulative politics and DC based media in the past several years, I would not take the Washington Post article at face value.
WaPo represents the interests of the Intelligence Community side of the deep state apparatus.
Everything the WaPo creatures write is part of an advanced and coordinated DC engineering effort that has multiple motives; the face value of the one they present is never the real agenda.
We all know why they want Donald Trump removed as a threat to their echo-chambered system of corruption and governmental graft. The entire DC system, including the Stasi DOJ and FBI state police, is based on financial influence, power, greed and corrupt sales of offices. Donald Trump always represented a disruption to their scheming and conniving systems. That motivating truth has never changed.
According to the Washington Post, the DOJ is now putting witnesses in front of a grand jury to solicit evidence to support a “seditious conspiracy” charge against President Trump for attempting to overthrow the United States government and Joe Biden.
WaPo – […] There are two principal tracks of the investigation that could ultimately lead to additional scrutiny of Trump, two people familiar with the situation said, also speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation.
The first centers on seditious conspiracy and conspiracy to obstruct a government proceeding, the type of charges already filed against individuals who stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6 and on two leaders of far-right groups, Stewart Rhodes and Henry “Enrique” Tarrio, who did not breach the Capitol but were allegedly involved in planning the day’s events.
The second involves potential fraud associated with the false-electors scheme or with pressure Trump and his allies allegedly put on the Justice Department and others to falsely claim that the election was rigged and votes were fraudulently cast.
Recent subpoenas obtained by The Post show that two Arizona state legislators were ordered to turn over communications with “any member, employee, or agent of Donald J. Trump or any organization advocating in favor of the 2020 re-election of Donald J. Trump, including ‘Donald J. Trump for President, Inc.’ ”
No former president has ever been charged with a crime in the country’s history. In cases when investigators found evidence suggesting a president engaged in criminal conduct, as with Richard M. Nixon and Bill Clinton, investigators and successive administrations concluded it was better to grant immunity or forgo prosecution. One goal was to avoid appearing to use government power to punish political enemies and assure the tradition of a peaceful transfer of power. (read more)
One big note of caution on this entire ridiculous narrative… especially as it pertains to the media construct…. Please, keep in mind that Democrats are getting crushed right now by their own constituents. Democrat politicians are deflated and disillusioned as the people are not happy with the current state of the economy or society overall.
Democrats have been reduced to a small section of the most extreme-leftists and blue-haired suburban leftist women riddled with guilt. That’s the base now. Everyone else is demoralized and deflated. Morale in democrat circles is terrible.
With that in mind, this type of narrative engineering by the political media can also be looked at as an effort to boost morale. Not much more.
Personally, despite knowing how over-the-top totalitarian these DC people have become, I do not see them wanting armed conflict with more than half of the country. An attempt to criminally convict President Trump would be the first shot in a civil war. It would not, and will not, end well.
That’s fantastic ha ha ha , Trump will not lose popularity anybody with a functioning brain knows the truth . He’ll be as dominant as ever.
I think their goal would just be to make sure he’s in prison for a while. I wonder if someone in prison could be President. That would be hilarious if they managed to imprison him but he still became President.
Well, I’ll never see President Trump in prison. They will either not be able to carry it out or I will be dead defending him with my life…….and I’m not ready to die just yet.
Amen to your words. I was stationed Schofield Barracks Hawaii 1974-78. I was Lucky to have at One Time a Commanding Officer of C-Trp 3/4,Cav. 25th. Inf. Div. . He would give his Shirt off His Back for anyone of us severing under Him. He never ask anyone to do what he himself would if had to. An an amazing Leader and a Man He was. Those I know whom served under Him, as I did, would Lay down My Life for that Man in a Heartbeat. Same with Trump.
even in prison he’d still be a better president than anyone else!
I did not start out a Trump fan; I voted for Cruz (I am ashamed to say), but President Trump has won me over and like Sundance indicated, even at 75 years of age, I will sharpen the tines on my pitchfork and march to DC to confront the bastards if they harm one hair on President Trump’s famous head or if they imprison him.
There will be hell to pay.
Ah, thats the ambiguous wording.
“that engaged in” not “convicted of” hence they think they don’t have to convict, just blow enough smoke to be able to allege that he ‘engaged in’ insurrection.
However, while they are hoping to exploit that ambiguity, it is that very ambiguity that undermines their effort.
As it is legally unclear what “engaged in” MEANS, in any legal sense, the Courts will detirmine this is a political matter; let the voters decide, rather than the Courts.
That is, rather than the Courts blocking PDJT’s name from being on the ballot, just let the voters decide if he ‘engaged in’ Insurrection.
They are not trying to put Trump in jail.
They are not trying to tarnish Trump, thereby defeating him in election.
They are trying to provide a b.s. explanation for a defeat of Trump—as they cheat again like they did in 2020.
They’re just looking for an excuse that would explain the fake polls that they will commission showing Trump will lose election, and that would allow them to cheat at the vote counting.
I like this theory. Their first excuse for cheating was Russian collusion.
” but using it to keep today’s candidates off the ballot is a long shot.”
Do we live in a nation where the Rule of Law is applied at the highest levels?
No we do not, the Rule of Law has been abandoned we live under a two tier Justice system and a banana republic.
#MAGA
We live in a nation where there is no rule of law.
Curious. What does the constitution say about drop box vote theft?
Slight correction LeftTheGop: Article II Section 1 states that “no citizen except a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN” and have reached the age of 35 shall be eligible. What is a “natural born citizen”? Here is what SCOTUS tells us: 4 SUPREME COURT CASES DEFINE4 ‘NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'(Updated May 25, 2012) >> Four Winds 10 – Truth Winds
Needless to say, this makes Queen Hussein and Kamela ineligible. He having been sired by a British national and she being the fruits of two foreign nationals, Jamaica and India.
Most of the criminals and felons are already IN Congress and certainly in DC! That’s why they are so anxious to brand President Trump with something – anything will do! Because they can’t find anything to “get him” on . They just keep making stuff up!
The DC vipers mean business.
I remember reading how the Patriot Act “sprang full blown overnight from joe biden’s desk ” before the dust had settled after 911.
And now here’s that same clown fronting for a usurped presidency that would appear to be an attempt to bring things full circle and complete their long sought plans to end America.
I think we’d better not let them.
And forcing regular Americans to pay for our own abuse.
I’m tapped out. Would like to see ANY return on investment.
My gold is brass. I’m about to spend a large quantity of it I’m afraid.
K-street is really the ruling arm of the government. That’s why things can “spring and sprang” into life overnight.
If January 6th Had Been a Real “Insurrection”
https://newswithviews.com/if-january-6th-had-been-a-real-insurrection/
There was a real insurrection… by Congress. It was generated by Democrats and the complaisant Republicans went along with it.
I have sympathy with those who have to pay income tax, I really do.
However, at a certain point the criticism of “wasting taxpayer dollars” has ceased to resonate for me.
Sure, $40 million on Mueller investigated, what a waste.
But when they are funneling 100’s of Billions to Afghanistan, Ukraine, etc. and destroying any value the $ has, at a certain point, with the DC attitude of “hey, we’ll just print more!” ,..wasting taxpayers hard earned dollars just doesn’t top my list of grievances.
And, its NOT the Democrats PDJT was and is a threat to its the Democrats with an R after their name that he endangers, and he has already done so much damage, that they can never put the toothpaste back in the tube.
Aka. republicrats.
This makes me roll my eyes. Why yes, Democrats with a D after their name are no threat, but Republicans who are actually D are ?
What kind of perverted illogic is that? If you don’t think they’re both threats then there is no fixing this.
Sure let’s elect more real Ds, that will help out this country 🙄
“I have sympathy with those who have to pay income tax, I really do.
However, at a certain point the criticism of “wasting taxpayer dollars” has ceased to resonate for me.”
Well I do pay income tax, and don’t want your sympathy, but will try to explain why it should resonate with you.
It’s not just that the gov’t cabal has stolen from us, completely destroying the middle class backbone of our nation.
It’s not even they’ve used our hard work to enrich and empower themselves and their foreign friends.
What’s even worse is, that with all the hard-earned money these thugs have taken, they have solved NOTHING. EVERY single aspect of gov’t responsibilty is WORSE.
There should be a secure border.
Police and prisons should be well-staffed and functional.
Social Security should be safe.
Veterans and the mentally ill should not be homeless.
Our food should be safe and abundant.
Medical care should be efficient, affordable, and first-rate.
American citizens’ savings should be worth something.
That’s just a start, but our safety and standard of living have plummeted, the more the jackboot gov’t thugs have robbed us. People are scared and angry. And YES – it DOES matter that the ruination of our way of life has been funded by looting us.
Not only do Democrats suck in general, but they’ve been spending heaps of money and time on a tired witch-hunt.
And these Democrats are squandering taxpayer money to do this, while the rest of us are separating our toilet paper ply, just so we can have the dignity of a clean ass.
But they needn’t worry about cleanliness. Dirty bast@rds.
They deserve to have Ramen Noodles shoved down their throats…straight from the package, uncooked.
Dry oatmeal was never too tasty.
“So the cabal pulls an insurrection and gets away with it and the guy they stole the election from gets charged”
Power by Insurrection has No Constitutional Authority
by Andrew C Wallace
Patriots know we have a faux government put into power by an insurrection, which means it has no Constitutional authority to govern. The Constitutional requirements for voting were not followed, and every conceivable method of cheating was employed, resulting in an insurrection and a faux government.
These evil traitors have total and absolute power without Constitutional Authority. They are ruling against the needs and desires of the American people while implementing a ruthless Chinese Communist style dictatorship in conjunction with the cabal of the super wealthy Democrats and Communists.
But circumstances are much, much more dire and catastrophic than just stated.
https://newswithviews.com/power-by-insurrection-has-no-constitutional-authority/
Seems like since Biden has been installed that’s their MO The good guys get charged and the criminals get let go. They’ve been doing this for almost two full years now and have been blatant about it!As long as we let them get away with this we will go right down the rat hole. So far we have except for a few instances where some people have fought back. But the surprising thing is the silence coming from the republicans. Not all but way too many.
They don’t care about their constituents and supporters anymore than they care about us. They have lost any ability to reason. I’m afraid we are at that step in the abusive relationship where we have packed our bags and are trying to move on but our partner will not allow a peaceful divorce.
Yes, they would prefer civil war to losing an election. If they fear losing control after the mid-term election, then the mid-term election will not be held.
A new crisis must be invented. Get ready.
What exactly do you mean by “civil war”? That states would secede? In my opinion, that would be highly unlikely.
Red team against Blue team
Shirts against Skins
Do you need a diagram?
I’ll bow out now and leave it to Sundance if he wishes to answer in his words
Patriots against anti-American Commies
Normals against The Gender Confused (challenge question: “What is a woman”?)
Content of Character against “Dat bees all raycissssss an’ sheeeeeeeit”
Three Rs against Elementary School sexual deviant indoctrination
Oops, I guess I didn’t bow out after all
At a simplistic level, patriots v Branch 4 and their mercenaries.
Patriots could, IMO, effectively recruit the scores of criminals the corrupt justice system has been releasing and turn them into cleaners. They hate the government and justice system anyway. Put that hate to good use. The government uses them against us. Turnabout is fair play.
Patriots could, IMO, effectively recruit the scores of criminals the corrupt justice system has been releasing …
Sorry, Dunes, but I don’t think you know much about “the scores of criminals the corrupt justice system has been releasing”
Dey not exactly MAGA material, if you gnomesayin’
What exactly do you want it to mean?
I think it’s starting to crystalize. They are trying to kill our representatives. Example, the Bernie Bro who shot up the ball field. The guy going after Lee Zelden. Openly Hunting SCOTUS members, with DOJ looking the other way. BLM and Antifa, brown shirt violence. Steal an election. Now, they want Trump in a cage. When that happens, it’s the last domino, it kicks into armed rage. They are playing with fire.
What really infuriates me about the Zeldin attack was the fact the perpetrator was almost immediately released.
The only reason I believe he was picked up again was due to the massive negative fallout.
The media and the gutless criminals in D.C. aren’t even bothering to hide their distain for Americans who are pro country.
Asked and answered by Sundance. Helps to read the entire post.
”An attempt to criminally convict President Trump would be the first shot in a civil war. “
Couldn’t get any clearer than that!
This is a great move. It will go nowhere for the Demoncrats, but they have created a new precedent. Team Trump will use this precedent when they prosecute the lawbreaking Demoncrats.
i WILL SIGN MY NAME to SUNDANCE’s STATEMENT, ” THIS WON’T END WELL ”
If the ” BELTWAY ” PERSISTS with this line of ACTION.
I AM PRAYING for COMMONSENSE and PRAYERFULLY REMIND the ” BELTWAY ” that THEY EXIST – NOT FOR THEMSELVES as rulers OVER PLEBS ,
BUT
as CIVIL SERVANTS and REPRESENTATIVES OF the DISTRICT / STATE Listed BEFORE their Party AFFILIATIONS (PERIOD)
POTUS 45 Returned to D.C. Today and Spoke at the America First Agenda Summit about the FATAL ERRORS that Are NOW PLAGUING OUR SOCIETY – WILL HE BE LISTENED TO by Gingrich, Kevin McCarthy, Scalise and THOSE in ATTENDANCE ?
again i Bring to mind the FRANKLY SPEAKING ” The People’s Pundit ” and His Examination of the way the Power Structure in D.C. Operates.
https://rumble.com/v1ce32x-episode-273-inside-the-numbers-with-the-peoples-pundit.html
qrw
I like the principles of MAGA, economic nationalism, fighting Globalists, but allow me to play devil’s advocate for a moment.
I am still wondering if this Trump/Biden series is a limited hangout dog and pony show for our passionate consumption. Like Act 4 of a play, the Return of Trump.
Was Trump so naïve as to allow that monster Fauci and friends to shut down the western world?
If he was that naïve to give CDC and Fauci that mandate, after Russiagate revealed the depth of the moves against him, we still have a problem. Did he simply get the shit scared out of him like many of us experienced, or was he in on it?
Will or did Trump admit he was hoodwinked on the Plandemic?
Pushing vaccines at the late stage after all the fakery was exposed is troubling, he should have come out and said what a disaster they were, or did he? Is Trump playing the role of the “Good Cop?”
Then conveniently Biden takes credit for the most severe violations of Liberty during the lockdowns, masking, mandatory vaccines, etc. Is Biden playing the role of “The Bad Cop With Dementia“?
Too much good cop, bad cop manipulative feel to that whole episode.
I want to believe that Trump can come in there and wipe things up vis-à-vis the deep state, but it seemed like they were running him more than he was running them.
I don’t normally post like this in ways they go against the grain of this portal, but this seems like a starting point for a more serious discussion about what we are really witnessing here with the “investigations“. It feels like they’re recycling the same script over and over. Trump will triumph blah blah blah and he probably will. but that misses my point. Is this a uniparty dog and pony show or not?
is the dog and pony show going to lead to Civil War?that’s a better question assuming it is a dog and pony show.
I know it going against Trump in anyway is going to be rather unpopular in general, but rest assured I’m not trying to troll here. I just wanted to open it up a little bit beyond the bubble thinking.
No, it’s real, and I don’t think our President is on it at all. His strength was dealing with the economics, not Lawfare and how nasty the Deep State is.
Will good triumph over evil? It will in the End, but in this circumstance. They have dragged him through the mud the past five years, will they finally win? It shows how even more utterly corrupt they are, they cannot let this good man who is good for the country win. They want it all to themselves and the rest of us exploited.
7 years (2015-2022).
Hey, Mayhem!
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar
MM,
Taking your comment in the spirit intended,…and summarising PDJT is ‘in on it’; they are putting on a melodrama, much like WWF wrestling,…which PDJT did actually have some involvement.
IF that were the case, seems to me they would have done it differently.
Have Biden come after Obummer, (or Hil, or some other atavar) the point is have the Biden admin POLICIES we have seen.
TRASH everything, economy, energy, foreign affairs, etc…
THEN have DJT ride down the escalator, and do what he did in his first admin.
He’s the Hero, the “great white Hope” and we annoit him King,..and he becomes the dictator.
The glaring contrast between the POLICIES of the two admins, and the exposure of so much that previously was hidden, I just don’t think this is all some elaborate plan in the way you suggest.
I guess its seems like if it was intentional, they would do a much better job of it.
It isn’t Trump they are after. It is us and he is in the way. Remember that.
Risky behavior is their addiction. They’re junkies. They stole an election and got away it. The thrill was euphoric with no negative consequences. Now they want to level up.
They’ll keep escalating past the point where the excitement turns painful. But that won’t stop them. They’re addicts.
This won’t end well.
insightful
Yeah, they just can’t/won’t stop. They are just so po’ed that Trump won’t just go away. I pray to the Lord to keep our President Trump safe from those who would destroy him in order to destroy the United States of America.
They’re ALL in on C.O.A mode. They know if he gets back in they won’t have swamp spies doing their dirty tricks to subvert his policies to help our country. AND with an awful lot of politicians, alphabet agencies and media going to jail and awaiting trial for treason! The volunteers for firing squad will be like an endless Trump rally waiting in line to get in.
Like the monkeys in the cocaine experiment. They selected the cocaine button in preference to the food button until they starved to death.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/new-york-times-columnist-writes-country-collapse-trump-prosecuted?dicbo=v2-4b02201c46217d5615f911094bbd4ffd
“New York Times columnist writes the country will ‘collapse’ if Trump isn’t prosecuted”
I suppose it might from the point of view of the UNIPARTY and Deep State traitors.
“The New York Times published an op-ed by columnist Charles M. Blow Sunday that called for the prosecution of former president and prospective 2024 GOP front-runner Donald Trump.”
Who? So I took a look. He’s a black man. A divorced bisexual. A man who likes to see himself and all blacks as nothing but victims, and thus a “useful idiot” for the democRAT”ic” party. One of those *journalists* who made the Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown and George Floyd cases into something they weren’t. To incite violence. A man who lauds that criminal Bill Clinton because he appointed a few blacks to high positions. Who lauds Obama because he was black (never mind all the damage he did to blacks economically). A man who ignored Black Lives Matter violence and their burning of cities. Who ignores black on black crime. Who is nothing but a race monger. Yes, he and those using him should fear Trump.
One might counter the writer will be collapsed if Trump’s prosecuted.
Whenever I hear a lefty no matter their color say the country will collapse I assume they’re talking about their little world of sick! The 3% of total weirdos pushing their crap on all of us and our children, and the app. 25-30% who are actually dumb enough to believe anything a democrats says, then year it could colapse. But for real people of morals and higer standards who a God fearing? No it will not collapse. It will be a renewal of the American spirit that is being muffled by the left!
Of course, “mum’s the word” on what the DOJ/FBI/CIA/Etc did from 2016-2019. That was the true conspiracy to overthrow the Government of the United States.
Do it, just DO IT you scumbags!
Somebody else said it better than me:
“Go ahead, make my day.”
And of course, “Do you feel lucky?”
Well… do you, punk?
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Hey!
The DOJ isn’t listening to Mike Pence. He wants to look forward as elections are about the future . . ,
You think the GOP isn’t also behind this effort, too? These 2 parties are not polar opposites. Never have been.
Yeah, that was likely the largest lesson not taught in civics in the 60’s but rather learned from life. Propaganda was strong back then. Skeptics were squashed. I sensed it even as a young person. Didn’t understand the details though.
And we can thank PDJT for exposing what these people are. He may be out, but he’s far from done. This could be the last straw for them.
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Perhaps it is not apparent that ‘facetious’ is my middle name . . .
They got Bannon, they got Flynn….why wouldn’t they go for Trump?
The Obama appointed DC judge, perhaps it will be Emmet Sullivan, will not allow President Trump to use as a defense the fact that undercover and paid FBI assets were in the crowd inciting the violence. And any other effective defense Trump might attempt.
We are now a banana gunboat “republic”.
Get ready for it. It’s here.
Sadly my friend you’re correct! Well, it had to happen sooner of later. Sooner is good for me I just turned 72 yesterday. still good enough not to miss out on history in the making.
I think it’s just more DC s**t-talking in an effort to rally what few supporters the idiots may still have. It would be beyond stupid to actually attack a former President and his supporters at this point. It would be like admitting to the whole world that you’re an incompetent fart who would rather stop the competent than to fix yourself. Something like that cannot end well for the mincy fops in D.C.
It’s their “Battle of the Bulge” Oh, and we won that didn’t we?
Sundance, my heart wants to believe you, but I do believe the Democrats & our Republican leaders will stop at nothing to prevent Pres. Trump from running again.
If you look at how the DOJ/FBI is persecuting rally attendees now with barely a word from Republicans except Marjorie Taylor-Green, how FJB said Capital Police were assaulted & speared by insurrectionsts today or yesterday, or how no Republican can get a fair jury or judge in DC or the suburbs, & with the J6 Committee conducting its sham activities, I don’t think even a former President, especially Pres. Trump, doesn’t get indicted, if for no other reason than still being alive & able to talk. That he”s considering running again almost make his arrest a certainty.
AND why did Democrat politicians all of a sudden get behind the police? Are they anticipating a civil war because they plan to arrest the President???
Why are Schiff & Liz Cheney threatening to impeach Justice Thomas using the J6 Committee?? Are they going after Gorsuch, Kavanaugh & Barrett as well?
What is Fauci up to & why is FJB declaring a medical emergency over monkey pox, readying vaccines AND forecasting another severe COVID outbreak in time for elections.
The Democrats have got away with so damn much lately. They are geniuses at controlling crises, except for economic & financial… Sigh
“AND why did Democrat politicians all of a sudden get behind the police? Are they anticipating a civil war because they plan to arrest the President???”
They’d be fools to think the police can (or will) protect them. Some might arrest Trump, but how many police would be willing to risk their lives and their family’s lives to protect those issuing such orders. Someone needs to talk some sense into these political cretins before they steer the boat onto the rocks of an island that’s surrounded by sharks.
That’s something that’s always bothered the hell out of me.
“speaking on the condition of anonymity”
Well if they’re concealing their names, then they know they shouldn’t be speaking about it. So why the hell are they speaking about it?
Of all the people I despise most, it’s those who have no personal integrity, never a glimmer of a desire to do the right thing even at personal cost, those who lie and cheat and scam to get what they want, and to whom honor is a nonexistent principle.
But it doesn’t look like it’s going to stop anytime soon, so I guess it will continue to bother the hell out of me.
“… I guess it will continue to bother the hell out of me”
To quote The Outlaw Josie Wales: “I reckon so”
“Well if they’re concealing their names, then they know they shouldn’t be speaking about it. So why the hell are they speaking about it?”
To quote Austin Powers: “I’m sorry, baby, but that train has sailed”
(honorable behavior from Democrats)
Out of respect for Sundance , Add Rem , and all my fellow treepers i just deleted my first comment after taking a minute to review it . In line with Sundance’s post from a few days ago it did not really add to the conversation so much as it was an outlet to vent my cold steel ANGER and HATRED for these people .you all deserve better than what i just deleted so i will simply just add two words to Sundance’s post it would not , and will not end well FOR THEM .
R.D. over and out
“The Swamp™ will ‘JFK’ Trump before they allow him to return as president.”
I thought the person saying this was crazy first time I heard it.
Not so much anymore.
Well that would be certain to get a response from us. They’d better think twice because it won’t be the one who did it who would get the brunt of our ire. It will be those who issued the orders and those who issued the orders to those who issued the orders … all the way to the top … and EVERYONE associated with them, in or out of government. For their families’ sakes, they’d better pray that Trump stays healthy.
And the ones who are and have been SILENT on this last two years.
The Deep State is threatening Trump. After all, they showed Lee Zeldin and the rest of the country just how easily political opponents can realize the same fates of JFK or Shinzo Abe.
In his first go round, it was reported that he had kept many/some/a few of his loyal security staff before and while in the WH.
It was reported, very mildly and then disappeared.
He knows he is hated, intensely, by the swamp.
Yep, he had normal USSS yesterday at the Marquis but I also saw some of his private guys, wearing green shirts, out front where the protests were. Their appearance and disappearance exactly matched his motorcade, which came in to the back service entrance. No doubt he has different levels of private of which that was one.
Back when he become POTUS and I read USSS was annoyed that he kept on some of his personal security I was thinking ‘smart guy’. Trust USSS but only so far. They are part of the swamp.
I pay for his safety.
Well, one thing has become clear, if it wasn’t before…..in addition to the Demoncrat plans to indict PDJT, they brazenly flipped the Colorado Sec of State election with rigged Dominion machines, and this confirms imo that they will do the same in every state that has Dominion machines that are under their control (maybe they don’t even need control; could be pre-programmed?). They have decided to throw away whatever caution remained, and defraud American voters right in our faces, and dare us to do anything about it. This is gonna get dicey shortly, since i’m sticking to my earlier prediction that Democrats aren’t going to just step aside and allow Congress to be flipped to the GOP…. under no circumstances will they do previous.
Those people know a conviction for conspiracy to overthrow the government means either one of two things: life without parole at the Supermax or death.
The bottom line: they want to kill this man. They see no other way to get rid of him, as long as he’s alive and has a tongue and an app.
Does AG Garland not recall what the FBI said in August, 2021?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fbi-confirms-there-was-no-insurrection-on-jan-6/ar-AANxOuQ
Of course he knows. He would just claim that ‘new evidence’ was found by the J6 show trial.
I’ve been in tears since this news dropped. Communist countries pull this crap. We shouldn’t even refer to this country as the USA anymore as it is dead. No one that matters is going to step up to stop this. All the GOP is going to do if they do anything is run to a social media platform(Twitter) that hates conservatives and type strongly worded tweets. No way Trump would ever get a fair trial when not if he does get indicted.
Yes, this is a lame attempt to use a part of the 14th amendment, to prevent PDJT from being able to be on the ballot in 2024.
This was tried, against MTG, laura Boerbert and 4 other MAGA running for reelection.
ALL the cases that have been heard, the courts dismissed. Because there is no case.
And its the same case they are trying to use against PDJT.
14th says individuals can be barred from running for elective office, if they have been previously involved in (not sure if exact wording) an insurrection.
The wording is vague enough that its unlikely that it could be enforced, certainly not without a CONVICTION for insurrection.
Which means they have to “make a case” that PDJT was guilty of Insurrection first, and THEN use this clause in the Constitution to bar him from the ballot.
As the Unselect committee has demonstrated, they can’t make the underlieing case.
Only by twisting and distorting and ignoring evidence, can you make such a case.
As the Impeachments demonstrated, yes in a Grand Jury, you can INDICT a Ham Sandwich,…CONVICTING that Ham sandwich, in an actual TRIAL, is a different matter entirely.
The House Impeachment hearings very much resembled a Grand Jury, where only the Prosecutiin puts on its case, there is no rebuttal, no “other side”.
Which is why a prosecutor CAN ‘indict a ham sandwich’; in a trial, the Defence also gets to present ITS case, and in an actual trial there is no case to be made that PDJT engaged in Insurrection.
Obvious now that the J6 ‘set up’ with false flag operation was planned out ahead of time, and the planners were already planning this lawfare scheme to keep PDJT off the ballot, using the set up as the pretext.
How DESPERATE they are, to prevent a 2nd term.
I don’t foresee this desperate act as being any more successful than the insurance policy, or the impeachments.
You might not “foresee this desperate act as being any more successful than the insurance policy, or the impeachments”, but this attempt is different. They are going for broke after Grassley’s letter to Garland and Wray broke yesterday.
Weismann is driving the narrative and the prosecutorial direction; he did so publicly last week with open instructions to the DOJ.
Remember that the progressive left always tells you what they are going to do before they do it.
Garland is signaling that Trump will be (falsely) criminally charged with seditious activities and attempting to prevent a peaceful transition of power.
God help us all.
You might not “foresee this desperate act as being any more successful than the insurance policy, or the impeachments”, but this attempt is different. They are going for broke after Grassley’s letter to Garland and Wray broke yesterday.
Weismann is driving the narrative and the prosecutorial direction; he did so publicly last week with open instructions to the DOJ.
Remember that the progressive left always tells you what they are going to do before they do it.
Garland is signaling that Trump will be (falsely) criminally charged with seditious activities and attempting to prevent a peaceful transition of power.
God help us all.
As soon as we reclaim Congress, defunding, or disbanding, DOJ and the other alphabet agencies, is top priority action.
Convicting Bannon was only the opening salvo.
Criminally charging Donald Trump for sedition and conspiracy to overthrow the government are strangely analogous and perhaps equivalent to the 1861 Battle of Ft. Sumter.
Prosecutors have DC juries to rubber stamp any conviction of patriots. Oh, and they better not steal a presidential election. It will not end well.
I would not be surprised if Merrick Garland tries to charge Trump with sedition. Garland is a Neo-Bolshevik who is descended from Bolshevik’s who were kicked out of Russia. Unfortunately the United States gave refuge to his Bolshevik ancestors and to thousands of other Bolsheviks.
Of course Garland knows that if he arrests Trump he will be firing the first shot in a civil war but that is exactly what Garland wants! Remember that the Merrick Garlands of the world have gained their enormous power and influence from the old divide-and-conquer strategy. Merrick Garland would like nothing better than a civil war which would give him the authority to kill hundred’s of thousands if not millions of white Christian Americans!
There is no greater enemy of the American people than Merrick Garland. He is a far greater threat to America than China and Russia put together!
On the subject of grand juries, Mike Pence’s low-life top aide Marc Short was on Bret Baier last night and revealed that he had testified before the grand jury investigating Trump. Short declined to reveal any of his testimony to Baier.
A witness who is subpoenaed to testify before a grand jury is free to discuss their testimony in public so I don’t know why Short is being so coy about this . I suspect Marc Short would do all that he could to get Trump charged so as to clear the way for Mike Pence’s presidential run and I bet Short told Garlands grand jury prosecutor everything he(she?) wanted to hear. Of course none of this is happening without the knowledge and approval of Mike Pence.
On Monday Marc Short appeared on MSNBC and accused Matt Gaetz of underage sex trafficking. Gaetz is one of the top America First politicians and a loyal Trump supporter. For Mike Pence’s henchman to make despicable accusations against Gaetz in public tells you how vicious these snakes are. If I were advising Trump I would tell him to take the gloves off and really go after Pence and his henchman Marc Short. No need to play nice with these traitors any longer.
“Democrats have been reduced to a small section of the most extreme-leftists and blue-haired suburban leftist women riddled with guilt. That’s the base now.”
Only if you are looking from the bottom up.
Their base is — Congress – including the Republicans – DOJ, FBI, CIA, NSA, State Legislatures, Courts, Prosecutors, Academia, Entertainment, Labor Unions, and so on…
In 2020 – everyone kept pointing to the Massive Crowds supporting Trump – unlike anything in my lifetime — + the TINY “rallies” for Biden – also unlike any other POTUS campaign in my lifetime…
Did it make a difference…………………………….?
I kept telling people — they have prepared to steal the election!!! It is going to be the biggest Election Fraud in US History + they don’t care how obvious it is going to be because they have the centers of power that could stop them locked up…
Nobody would listen…….. Nobody….
I harp on this frequently because – I can’t think of a single reply in Social Media that agreed Trump was going to have the White House stolen from him + nothing would be done about it…. Instead, I got kicked in the balls by other Trump Supporters…
Yes — Average Democrat Voters are demoralized + worried ———- because even they can’t recognize ———– what decades of effort has built for their desires to revolutionize our current civilization…
Let me illustrate it this way —–
What % of College Students are —– Conservative or Progressive or Centrists + so on…?
In most places, Conservatives + Centrists + Libertarians greatly outnumber the Far Leftists.
Does that make a difference ——- when study after study has found, when it comes to the Professors, non-Progressives are a statistical irrelevance.
In the South during the worst of Segregation, did it matter how much evidence was stacked up against a White Suspect who committed a race-related crime against someone Black?
Poll #s tell us nothing about Political Power in the United States today….
The Republic is dead.
I don’t like it.
But I can’t help but recognize it…
You better be prepared with more than this,
“But I can’t help but recognize it…”
What will I need when even the majority of Trump Supporters can’t admit to themselves this much?
Throughout 2020, the most common scoff about my prediction the election would be stolen in a huge, obvious theft was ——- the Patriots would never stand for it. That it would wake up the sleeping giant + then that would be the end for the Globalist Cabal.
Is that how it played out….?
I’m not going to thump my chest with bravado like I’m An Army of One…
I’ve been getting ready for the worst since Dec 2019 when I backed of a contract to go back overseas because my best guess was that —– the Globalists were for real + they were going to flush Civilization down the toilet for real. That they were no longer just talking about it – they had pulled the trigger on doing it….
But my prep + warnings didn’t prevent Trump from being robbed.
Even I thought the anger over the Theft would lead to far more obstruction against the Globalist than has occurred —– I’m stunned by how much they got away with it + with slaughtering millions worldwide the past two years…
I will not surrender. I will not comply.
But I won’t hide my eyes + pretend either….
Not that I’m suggesting anything violent, but waiting around for more third party elected losers to move the patriotic needle is stupid. The constitution was never going to outsmart actual sedition. No founding documents can know the distant future, much less prevent Luciferian takeovers like ours.
Trusting in 1776 is going to get you killed. These reptiles aren’t playing by 1776 rules, they want population reduction and they intend to start with us.
Think, pray and educate.
For now, it’s in God’s hands. Is this just another of the cycles where large chunks of mankind suffer hideously after running so far away from God that He withdraw’s the Holy Spirit’s Restraining Hand?
or is this finally the last of the End Times?
I see no hint of a real revival in seeking God. Probably least of all in the formerly Christian nations.
So, a lot more suffering is highly likely.
If this is the last of the End Times – we’ll witness Persecution of Christians on the scale of Nero + Jews on the scale of Germany 1930s-45 + it will look like Evil is right at the line of Total Victory —- before Jesus + a heavenly host arrives to rid the Earth of them for 1,000 years…
What do they call it when 2/3 of the governed country decides the government needs to go…….dead or alive? Is that sedition, revolution or house cleaning?
I think the men who established our Republic said it was an inherent, inalienable human right.
Personally,I myself have nothing to lose,so lets roll.
On April 19, 1775 the govt tried to disarm Americans. Today on July 27, 2022 the government will try again by voting (House) on Jerry Nadler’s Assault Weapon Ban that in reality, bans every single semi-automatic rifle in the country.
“Stand your ground. Don’t fire unless fired upon, but if they mean to have a war, let it begin here.”
~ Captain John Parker, Lexington Green, MA, April 19, 1775
House to vote on Nadler’s Semi-Automatic and Assault Weapon Ban.
I believe the vote may be today, 7/27. The bill would ban all AR15’s…..AND…..every single semi-automatic rifle that accepts a detachable magazine. That’s virtually every single firearm made and sold in America. The more House Reps that vote against this act of sedition, the better chance the bill dies in the Senate.
Gun Owners of America is the pit bull in the fight against the anti-gunners; much more so than the NRA. Use their site to send a “vote NO” message to your House creature:
https://www.gunowners.org/na07252022/
Always interesting to me that they don’t touch NFA and the real weapons and destructive devices of war.
I can only surmise that ID, 200 buck tax stamp and thousands invested are deemed sufficient deterrents from returning those items to their previous service of efficiently killing humans. Scores of them exist around my state, from machine guns to tanks, and that’s a Commie-run state.
Three Felonies a Day, good book. America the real.
This would be very simple for the Democrats. Push some bogus charges through a leftist DC Grand Jury, send it to trial in a DC court with an Obama-appointed judge, and railroad a guilty verdict past a Democrat jury. They could do this to hundreds of Republicans in America. In the meantime, Chuck Schumer made threats against Supreme Court justices to get them to vote the way they want.
“Do they want a civil war?”
Short answer? Yes.
Ordo Ab Chao. Once you see THOSE strings, you can’t unsee them.
Every time President TRUMP went on an overseas trip, the fake news media dropped some bombshell b.s. to try to demoralize him and bring him down here and on the world stage. Yesterday he went back to The Swamp and they did the same thing. Pure and simple.
The article says “two people familiar with the situation said“, however yesterday morning on OAN it was just one, Mark Short. Judas Pence’s dude.
So, the President of The United States wanted 10k National Guards there to keep people safe and his request was flat out ignored and denied? Sounds a lot like seditious conspiracy to overthrow the TRUMP Presidency to me.
“The second involves potential fraud associated with the false-electors scheme or with pressure Trump and his allies allegedly put on the Justice Department and others to falsely claim that the election was rigged and votes were fraudulently cast.”
Isn’t this exactly what ILLary Clinton did? Claimed the election was rigged, sent her peons in to the FIB/DOIJ to pressure them into an investigation, wrote a book about her loss by theft, yada, yada, yada. And they all carried her water and all we heard about for years was Russia-Russia-Russia. And still do.
Can Trump be successfully prosecuted?
By The Dershow
Published July 25, 2022
https://rumble.com/v1dkwkj-can-trump-be-successfully-prosecuted.html
HINT: Dersh says the answer is NO.
“seditious conspiracy and conspiracy to obstruct a government proceeding”
I’ve said this before here and I will say it again. This is actually what happened when the votes were being counted. That was a gubt proceeding too. Remember they threw lawful observers out, called the police on them, bullied them, kept them 100 feet away, put up cardboard on the windows, put up fake columns to hide their thefts, etc….
THAT was the real coup!
“An attempt to criminally convict President Trump would be the first shot in a civil war.”
Sorry, but this reads more like, “They’ve broken my right arm and both legs. But just watch if they try breaking my left arm. I’m really gonna get pissed.”
It’s as though MIC-financed Hollywood has convinced Americans that they really live on screens.
Frankly, the Canadian truckers, French Yellow Vests and Dutch farmers have shown more John Wayne swagger than the American Right which vastly prefers putting on Brighteon talk shows and airing low-production impersonations of Faux News. Everyone’s working on their best knitted brow, wanting to be the next Tucker Carlson.
The Deep State is betting, rightly I suspect, that they have nothing much to fear from serious domestic pushback. Bad television and endless alt-media froth is a far cry from charging San Juan Hill. The kids are dying in their bunks at Ft Bragg. Charging hills and myocarditis don’t mix.
If Trump’s stolen election, the Op Warpspeed clot shots, the Afghanistan debacle et al et al didn’t coax the first shot, then the People’s barrel is empty.
America is LOST in a hall-of-mirrors. Media is not a verb. ‘First shot’ is a literary device, a metaphor. It’s not a real bullet. Do you even know the difference anymore, America?
Hey, now, we had Freedom Truckers, too, except the US media blacklisted them whereas they covered the Canadian Freedom Truckers. No R politicians met or spoke with them, from what I could tell. It fizzled on the airwaves? Why? The Uniparty didn’t want to give it any oxygen, they didn’t want to position a sympathetic group who represented the righteous frustrations of the many.
So, how many other American voices are denied oxygen? How many work tirelessly for liberties, but are hardly ever known? I’ll give you just one (of many): The Institute for Justice. Look them up and you’ll see that much of the corruption in this country is at the state and local level, but we’re too busy looking at the federal. The feds could only dream of exercising the kind of power that abusive local governments have. It’s shocking. And The Institute of Justice is battling it out in court, year in, year out.
The patriots which arose from the ashes of TPC were in front of the Marquis yesterday squaring off with the anti-Trump protestors and are living full time, with a regime-granted protest permit, on the National Mall.
I’ll bet practically zero people here know about them. The video streams I post usually get one like at best, zero mostly. I can only surmise no one cares. Same with the state movements going on all over the country.
It’s OK not to care. I’m learning. It’s essential for preparing for war since the taking of human life is repugnant to most God-fearing people. Getting past that is hard, but necessary when engaging the soulless cretins we’re currently faced with.
There is a feeling of being alone, isolated. Nothing new though. Felt that same coldness in the 60’s. We’re nowhere near that era’s level of violence, yet.
YES!!!! And we hang the RINO scum first.
#MAGA
In the real world, if you just beat your political opponent with 81 million votes you would beg him to run again. That tells you everything you need to know.
Bingo!
These people are insane.
Kamala Harris stated yesterday that, “I am a woman sitting here wearing a blue dress.”
Dementia Joe has deteriorated to the point that he has to be hidden —while obviously spliced, prerecorded messages are televised.
This insanity has to stop.
The insane are attacking the sane.
Attacking rational citizens will not nullify this rogue beast’s illegal stranglehold on America.
It looks more and more to me like the entire Democrat-Media Complex are now reduced to a fast-shrinking group of ‘Baghdad Bobs’, but with a huge megaphone.
“Do they want a civil war?”
Yes. The Mandarins do want that.
Martial law is the only thing going for them to disrupt the midterms.
And, this is what it’s all about.
But, who on their side will/would fight? The parasite welfare class won’t. Karen and Dick in the burbs won’t. The college students/gamers/LARPers everywhere won’t. The dopers won’t. The gheys and others won’t. Clearly, the politicians won’t. The military might try but every civilian with a rifle is at designated marksman level or higher–unlike the military–every blade grass.. Who does that leave…Antifa? BLM?
I suppose those blue check Twitter armies will have to put down the smartphones and script sheets and go outside in the sun and weather and smoke and smell of cadaverine.
So, what would make that a “civil” war?
We would be fighting targets of opportunity in this game, and they know it.
Foreign armies would join the DC cabal.
That’s very possible. Hence, crippling the air transport industry would be job #1. The good news is there are millions of us working in it, not to mention conversant with it at all levels. Richard Russell wasn’t an anomaly. He just decided to use an airliner to kill himself. No rocket science there, just a ramp rat on a mission. Mission profiles vary widely.
I just don’t see how Trump can be kept off the ballot after telling everyone to make their voices heard ‘peacefully and patriotically’, and then telling everyone to go home. Did any Democrat ever take to the podium during the summer of love and tell the rioters, the smash and grabbers, the destroyers, to GO HOME??
But then I didn’t think there was any way in hel Joe Biden, who held his “rallies” in high school libraries would win in 2020, and with even more votes than the Black Messiah!!!
If any did, the media didn’t broadcast the message.
They are so panicked that their actions are very reactionary and obvious. Lizzy, Shifty, the turtle, et al.
Devolution makes so much sense to me. I dont think that they are fully in charge so they just flail about striking when able. I guess that makes me a conspiracy theorist. Ok.
I want all if the pedos dealt with to the fullest extent of the law. That is my main focus of prayer and thoughts.
THIS IS WAR
TURN FOX OFF NOW
FFN
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/07/26/fox-news-airs-pences-speech-not-trumps/
I strongly for President Trump 2024 save American,
our country is in Trouble for everything,
we need Trump 2024,
So far they have gotten away with whatever they want. I think they will push their agenda.
Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition…
It’s two fold…yes… they do want him in jail in a January 6th political prisoner cell. He poses a serious threat to their money laundering and graft scheme…not just for Dim’s but for R’s.
Second is to intimidate any other R that if they take on the DS they will suffer the same consequences.
They do mean business and don’t care about repercussions.
Armed conflict is EXACTLY what they want. It is the last last chapter of the Marx communist manifesto; After infiltrating family support pillars of religion, media, government, etc. Thereby weakening the the foundation of the society, the final attack IS that of ARMED conflict. As Lincoln paraphrased Jesus Christ: “…a country divided against itself cannot stand…”
I think we’re overlooking, so far anyway, one important weapon that doesn’t involve munitions, that being money. Are we willing to go to the mat with that weapon, using the lessons that PDJT taught? I’m not seeing signs of it, though I did see a small but effective use in Canada a few months ago. Effective enough that it changed government tactics.
The critical hinge point is as you noted, the ‘foundations’. Our ability and will to communicate, coordinate and act in unison on a common mission. Without that, at any level, from peaceful redress of grievances to outright war, we will fail.
This is where I believe the 1776’ers have it right; it’s not a ‘left’ or ‘right’ issue, it’s American patriots against invaders and destroyers of our freedoms. They’re in D.C. right now, this morning, after suffering a chemical attack overnight that sent one to the hospital and found the fire department on scene handling the chemical dispersion.
That’s what America is.
I keep praying this will end like the story of Haman in the Bible – hoisted on their own petard!
Book of Esther.