In the lead-in to the Russian invasion of Ukraine, all of the U.S. involvement in the country was operated by bureaucrats and politicians from the U.S. State Dept, CIA, Intelligence Community and Senate. The Pentagon played a far lesser supportive role.
As a consequence of that previous investment, the current U.S response to the Russian “special military operation” has been spearheaded by the same DoS officials, intelligence agencies and politicians. The Ukraine engagement is a political operation using NATO and western allies. As we saw in the Afghanistan withdrawal, the Pentagon is a tool for the politics.
The division between the two interests (Pentagon vs State Dept) surfaces most quickly and easily when things SNAFU, and the blame casting begins. That’s when the division becomes noticeable to the public. The important point to remember is this… despite the involvement of NATO in the current Ukraine response, it is not the Pentagon calling the shots, it’s the state dept.
Earlier today, Army Gen. Mark Milley, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told the House Armed Services Committee “[Ukraine] is a very protracted conflict.” Milley anticipates many months, if not years, of combat fighting inside Ukraine as Putin carves out the eastern side of the country permanently.
According to Milley, “I think it’s at least measured in years… this is a very extended conflict that Russia has initiated. I think NATO, the U.S., Ukraine and all of the allies and partners supporting Ukraine are going to be involved in this for quite some time,” he said. The nature of Milley’s remarks outlines what will likely become an insurgency/proxy war funded by the United States for years against Russia.
As much as JC Milley is a political figure, Milley is operating his role under the assumption and direction of what the State Dept is creating. As a consequence of that long-term conflict prediction, the Pentagon is recommending several new rotating military bases for U.S. troops in eastern Europe.
It is also critical to recognize what is not being said by those same DoS and U.S. intelligence officials. The absence is deafening. What is not being advanced is any discussion of a diplomatic resolution or negotiated settlement. Milley’s defense request is predicated on a position that no diplomatic solution will be advanced. This is a key part of both General Milley and Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin’s testimony.
Ukraine cannot fight without the United States sending money and weapons. Combine that with Austin and Milley’s statements about Ukraine, and what you quickly see, albeit undiscussed in media, is that a long-term war is baked into this cake. The United States will not allow Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy to enter negotiations with Vladimir Putin.
When we review western media statements about Putin not willing to enter “peace talks” with Zelenskyy, keep the testimony from Milley and Austin at the forefront of your mind.
Why would Putin enter any negotiations with Zelenskyy, knowing the U.S. position is to carry out a long-term insurgency war in Ukraine against Russian military forces? What would be the purpose of Putin talking with Zelenskyy when the U.S. is openly saying the Ukraine military will be used by the State Dept. to maintain a conflict against Russian forces?
Russian President Putin knows the only group he could negotiate with are in the United States. However, that truth would expose the puppet strings, so the United States government must play the pretend game.
The position of Volodymyr Zelenskyy as a puppet to the U.S. State Dept and Intelligence Community interests, is inherent in the Pentagon position. If Zelenskyy was free to make decisions, Austin and Milley could not be so assured as to put a timeline on the Ukraine conflict.
This context becomes increasingly important as we look at how the media are positioning all resources to support a protracted war. Anyone who is not 100% pro war in Ukraine, for whatever length of time the DoS/IC determine is needed, is immediately cast as a Putin apologist.
This war emanated from the bowels of politics via U.S. political influence in Ukraine to the extreme. This level of U.S. involvement in Ukraine ultimately triggered Putin to say enough, and he started the “special military operation.” In many ways the operation is not so much against Ukraine – but more against the U.S. involvement in supporting Ukraine against Russia.
Because it started from political origins, the Ukraine conflict will continue to be run from the nerve center of U.S. politics, the U.S. State Dept, the U.S. Senate, and CIA operations. The actual Pentagon involvement will be transport and logistics for State Dept military operations.
Do you remember when the DoS Benghazi mission was attacked, and the Pentagon had no idea there was even a U.S. operational mission taking place in eastern Libya? That same “Operation Zero Footprint” disconnect is what I am describing above. It’s likely the Pentagon has very little idea what the State Department and CIA are doing in Ukraine right now.
This context is also why the propaganda around Ukraine in the United States has been so critical and important. We will see this level of propaganda continue so long as it is the DoS/CIA running the western response to the war.
What makes this conflict a little more interesting, is the need for the U.S. to control the information. We have seen the initial first phases of their control with Big Tech saying they will not permit anything that does not follow the official U.S. government narrative on social media.
Additionally, the State Department launching their own cyber-control division is an extension of this same intent. They are planning for the long-term usefulness of Ukraine as a proxy battle against Russia.
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Websites like CTH, who talk honestly about the background of what is happening in Ukraine, may eventually need to start using coded language in order to share information. There are trillions at stake, and the people who control the events are not going to permit too much exposure.
FMM🤨
(F*ck Mark Milley)
Maybe it will gain some traction.
Yeah, I’m no fan of Mark Milley, either. He’s the main one pushing wokeism in the military, and basically threw the weight of the military against the people who fought against the coup that took Trump out of office.
Yeah, Imagine that?
Woke Tubby-Tundra parroting his bitch masters propaganda. He’s a phony pos that supposedly spent his career fighting communism, totalitarianism, fascists, and the like.
Now he gleefully joins the very group of scum he swore an honor to defend us against.
No lower form of human than this valor devoid patsy. So very sickening, evil sickening.
I don’t believe anything that Milley or anyone else in this fraudulent cabal says. They are always flying by the seat of their pants, trying to get at the $$’s and more power.
Putin knows what he is doing (like him or not). He is not stupid, mentally ill or anything else that has been bantered about.
There is little to no doubt in my mind that PDJT knows exactly what is going on and understands Putin’s motives, intentions and expected results.
However, I firmly believe we have been living through an information world war for several years.
I do not underestimate PDJT.
I do not underestimate Putin.
Putin’s War will be over much sooner than Milley or anyone else wants.
Putin spelled out his intentions the day that military action started. These perfumed generals will be surprised to see things wrapping up now as the main objectives have been met. And Fake News liars would have us believe that the whole world is against Russia.
A visiting basketball team from Serbia refused to join their opponents in holding up a ‘Stop War’ banner before a Euroleague game on Sunday. Crvena Zvezda players were booed by the home crowd in Lithuania as Zalgiris players held the banner on their own before the game. In a statement, Crvena Zvezda confirmed that the players were instructed by club officials not to hold up the banner because of the use of the Ukrainian flag colors. The Serbian president, Aleksandar Vucic, won re-election on Sunday and has fostered close ties with Russia, refusing to impose sanctions against Moscow.
Good for them. Just let them play a game and not become political props.
This is interesting as there is a significant Nazi presence in Lithuania and there is zero love loss with Russia.
That’s the feeling I get. The Trump / Putin Showdown is on its way, folks. We’ve been hopeful and disappointed for years now expecting these low life to receive their punishment. There would be whistleblowers at the starting line impatient to offload their stories to the world. Then there are the mongrels who will be fun to watch turning on their mongrel mates. Is it possible to dream that countries return to being sensible successful sovereign nations doing their own thing without coercion from the WEF, UN/EU, Bankers, Corporations including the Climate Change and Covid losers. And, may ALL countries have DECENT medical, housing, education, jobs/wages and infrastructure.
If it wanes too early the Nazis will just kill Puke-rainians and blame the Russians, kinda like this most recent city in ruins they keep blathering about.
“They are always flying by the seat of their pants”
Looks like plenty of that to manoeuvre on
Now my analogy is more precise. North Korea is to China as Ukraine is to US.
Make this war stick to these commies like super glue. Don’t let them squirm out of it when US deaths and billions are going there. Iraq and Afghanistan started long enough ago when we thought (or only few really knew and I wasn’t one of them) it was all MIC and money laundering and we couldn’t see the puppet strings.
This Ukraine “war” is really the first when the vast majority of people should now see and understand what is really going on. They have no excuses now. It needs to stick to them like glue. The plandemic triple mask folks are the same as the Zelensky (not Ukraine) fans.
Sorry, missed some parts of that sentence above. When we thought it was for a good cause (and i was one of them) when it actually was MIC and money laundering. Internet was much more infant then. Now noone has any excuse for not knowing reality.
I have been following Ukraine for decades. I believe the OUN-B has been infiltrating Western governments for at least 80 years. This is the article that got me interested in Ukrainian Nazis in tandem with German. I was 16.
https://www.villagevoice.com/2020/02/26/to-catch-a-nazi/
Fake generals. Fake president. Fake White House. Fake war. We’ve never been at war with Oceana.
“Fake” is so 2020. We use “trans” now. As in… “trans”- generals, “trans”- president, & “trans”- White House.
Oh and “trans”- news of course.
See how it works?
This was a test Winston. It seems you did not update the thought and speech manual for the citizenry in a timely manner. We need to have a little talk.
Did I miss Alexander Vindman in that picture? How can “High Heels” Milley and “Affirmative Action” Austin expect to plan a strategy without the help of the wise 🤣 “Ukrainian” hero Vindman? Unthinkable 🙄
Perhaps he has been more than useful and is not needed now……he will be back out in a flash as needed.
Money printer goes brrrt, right into the defense contractors’ pockets.
+10% for the big guy!
What is the world going to do about food? Ukraine is a huge corn and wheat supplier and their ports are blocked. Russian wheat exports and fertilizer exports from Russia and Ukraine are threatened. We’ve already seen food riots in Sri Lanka and Peru. This had better be a short war. The Ukrainian military (not the government) has a say and so do the Europeans.
Very good article here on countries worldwide doing desperate workarounds to try to buy grain.
https://m.economictimes.com/news/international/world-news/the-120-billion-global-grain-trade-is-being-redrawn-by-russias-war-in-ukraine/articleshow/90657559.cms
In America at least, considering the epidemic of obesity, we could prolly go a full year on half rations with no ill effects.
Does that apply to the obese lardchonkers being towed to safety across the Rio into the USA as “refugees” and “asylees”? I have never seen such obese lardchonkers in my life as these illegal aliens “fleeing” their lardchonker homelands.
Poor fat people are a relatively new phenomenon if you think about it. I am beginning to take this seeming indifference toward the Invasion and Deluge Of Hard Dope coming from the People of Texas as a major F— You to the rest of the Country, since most of the BS seems to end up here in Florida. I posted the other day that I used to respect Texas and Texans for their sand. “Don’t Mess With Texas” has lost it’s teeth. Abbott is on the Cartel Payroll.
How about the Us step up and start planting
Yes!
Start in your backyard.
We can’t rely on this administration.
Crops in the US are already planned, seed, fertilizer, and other needs are bought. Financing was completed last fall. Farmers cannot just change what they have planned for this year.
Sounds like a lot of civilians being killed in Mariupol by Azov.
And the globalists satanic genocidal scum are having wetdreams !
I better start reading comments more regularly to get the codes that will be coming soon! I think Sundance is right – it will need to become code…
Many of us already speak in code and get harrassed for having poor grammar and bad spelling.
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The fake poster grammar Karens just. don’t. get. it.
Pig Latin. We used that growing up in the 60’s
There is a war going on for your mind . Some call it an InfoWar.
The side effects of forced mRNA JABS by Milley and Austin will increase exponentially and there will be no US military to force the WEF policies
Though it is lamentable and terrible for the servicemembers and their families, it is best that we DON’T have a cadre of mercenaries to be used as corporate cannon fodder for the Big Guy and his minions to make bank by meddling overseas. It is hideous that our “leaders” make bank off of the blood of US servicemembers who are being abused around the world to make the US oligarchy richer. Those men and women in uniform signed up to defend the USA, not the Big Guy’s 10% and Raytheon’s shareholder’s profits. This is unnecessary and regrettable.
Miley is just wishcasting for Raytheon/GE etc, tilling the soil for the next stage of the Forever War.
Putin can short-circuit them by striking a cease fire with Zelenskyy. I believe he will do so, even to Z’s advantage, just to assert control of the situation. Assuage his epic ego as well.
We must evaluate the timing of the Bucha false flag, which is of great importance and will give us major clues as to the real unfolding of events behind the curtain. It is no coincidence that the single largest mass surrender of the conflict so far occurred literally in the latter part of the same day of the false flag, there is a clear connection, here’s the surrender video for those who haven’t seen it: JUST AS THE MAY 15TH PROPHECY HAS PROCLAIMED WITH 100% ACCURACY! https://www.bitchute.com/video/aEanhNSwYPoR/
Milley who I’m sure can’t pass the Army pt test must be experiencing “white rage” and resign. Maybe punch himself?
How much bad is this guy a part of or has done to still be there?
If the Real President we elected were in the WH, this would not have happened.
The circus residing in DC is pure evil and the rest of the world is laughing at the freak show unfolding.
Pure unadulterated evil. These people have ZERO credibility and everything they touch, they destroy.
Milley’s been wrong in all of his predictions so far.
I wouldn’t bet money on his predictions. Remember, the enemy gets a vote too.
If I were Putin, I would keep going to the UN, making speeches about wanting peace except for the evil USA blocking it.
He’ll put the pressure on the administration and they might cave.
perhaps. but the u.s. strategy thus far has been so abysmal that the best and the brightest this time could be wrong yet again. russia may be rather close to destroying the opposing fighting forces, especially the asov battalion and fellow travelers. there are likely to be elections in the u.s. and if polls, social mood, electoral history, the covid experience, and the likely path of inflation and growth mean anything, november may be difficult for brandon and company.
and there may well be consequences.
President Trump is 100% correct- milley is incompetent and in my estimation a coward like his boss austin who, like colon powell, was put in as a poster child for affirmative action- in Desert Storm it was General Norman Scwartzcoff who won the battles and the war not powell!! And after Afghanistan both Austin and milley should be fired – especially for the death of our 13 military personnel – it was thru the incompetence of Austin, milley and that babbling cowardly resident at 1600 Pennsylvania avenue!!
Molley and austin took no responsibility whatsoever for the cowardly retreat from Afghanistan and the middle east!! Milley is a traitor and totally countermanned President Trumps policy with regard to Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria and the middle east as well as striking deals with the chicom chinese commies – in my book that is treason!!
Milley should have been charged with insubordination, failure to carry out a lawful order by no less than the Commander in chief thereby weakening the U.S.
The right man for Secretary of Defense would be General Jack Keane but he did not take any if the DoD positions because he knew the backstabbing, sellout crud he would have to deal with!!
General Keane has been of more value to President Trump and America than those other piece of human excrement- the non existent civilian chain of command was and is just as bad!!
With any luck maybe the whole lot of this tratorious scum, and their entire families, will contract an ebola pox to the American traitors and oppressors in hope they will suffer and die a horribly painful death!!
Milley years ago lost the battle against the biggest, bushiest and most evil eyebrows for the real estate north of his eyes.
Since surrendering against those eyebrows Milley surely could not even fight his own way out of a wet paper bag…
That map is so true!!!
One of the protracted Afghanistan war generals second guessing his comrades from another nation from his very incompetent experiences.
D.MacGregor talked about this protracted proxy war scenario. He thinks the Western European countries will not allow this to play out much longer due primarily to energy needs and regional instability. I tend to agree. DoS will none the less push as long as they can. I wonder how long it will be before we begin to hear Putin calling out the very facts Sundance presents? After all, the Western People have a higher distrust for what their political heads are telling them.
Remember….if there are no wars…..then there is no need for General’s
Thoroughly modern Milley. What a freaking joke.
I don’t think Milley gets it as far as Russian strategy goes, and I find that disturbing.
He’s just another fossil left over from the Cold War who can’t accept that Russia is not and never was the Soviet Union. Their ignorance puts us all in jeopardy of getting nuked.
Gosh……He’s been so ‘Spot On’ on so many OTHER things….
No matter what I won’t trust Mark milley is too socialism political,
Joint Chiefs Chairman, General Mark Milley, Self Admitted Traitor To The USA and Duly Elected President Of The USA…..
General Malaise Milley sh!t the bed in Afghanistan, and a couple months later, we are in a proxy war with a Nuclear Power to protect a Georgy Schwartz funded puppet, who was installed to protect our “leaders” money laundering operation, using U.S. funded Azov Nazis. How will this end well?
Looks like Lybia, Afghanistan, Iraq and all the “fight for democracy” money laundering operations, to me.
I wish we could get PDJT back in office with some sensible and supportive people in his administration, eliminate the CIA, the FBI, the DOJ, the DoS and remake the Pentagon into a peace keeping organization. Turn us gray to match the rest of the civilized world.
I hate the people who are pulling the strings on the US government. Too bad it ain’t us.
Your last paragraph. Yes sir, SD, it’s coming and you knew it before you wrote that paragraph. Honestly, how long before ISPs begin blocking access to certain URLs based on “Values”?
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/04/04/state-dept-launch-new-division-to-support-u-s-values-associated-with-cyberspace/
My lawyer mind immediately says: “Define U.S. values.”
Centurylink and my old as heck Goolag Chromebook already warned me that using DDG, and CTH could leave me open to “hackers”.. True Story, Not a Joke..
Hey Miley –
The only headline I want to see is
BABYLON THE GREAT IS FALLEN!
The good news is, he’s never been right about anything. A short rope would do him a world of good.
Another one on the Ukraine linked here
https://newcatallaxy.blog/2022/04/06/donbass-2016/
Perhaps James Taylor will play a tune at the Milley court-martial and gallows event.
I just realized it – “ General “ Miley is the “Dr” Fauci of the military – Ukraine / Covid – both will last for years and years – they will soon merge – blue and yellow Ukraine 🇺🇦 colored masks – and then the fake pantomime will be complete
“Do you remember when the DoS Benghazi mission was attacked, and the Pentagon had no idea there was even a U.S. operational mission taking place in eastern Libya? “
So the U.S. military is 3rd in line for information, after the CIA and State Department. Sorta like their war fighting ability–third rate.
really? milley thinks that? hell, it’ll be over next week.
This war is no longer about Ukraine. It’s about the reserve currency, the US dollar.
Putin/Russia have been getting away from dolLars for some time. Now, with sanctions upon Russia/Putin, they have tied their currency to gold.
How come we don’t hear this thru the MSM?
Milley is just stating the obvious, this will be protracted as Putin is determined while the western world will squeeze him and all around him until there is a change. Meanwhile, Russia is spending monies on an 100k+ army in a foreign land. And it’s unpopular within and outside Russia.
The question we should all be asking is if Putin had considered the all the possibilities and determined he could outlast the fall of the dollar.
Putin has 81% approval of the Russian citizens.
If you have kids, do not let them join the military. We need to withdraw our support for the evil the US does around the world.
These people are not only cool with getting hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians killed they have no problem sending US troops to die so they can get richer along with their puppet masters.
The US is responsible for so much of the evil and destruction that has happened around the world since WWII.
This is exactly what America wants – another nice, protracted, lucrative “war that goes on forever.” But, this is not what Russia wants, nor will it be what Russia will have. They have specific objectives, and plans and a schedule to achieve those objectives. And that is exactly what they will do.
Neither NATO nor the USA will actually intervene. Europe knows full well that Russia will shut off the gas again if they do.
If the above is correct, there is a great possibility, if not an inevitability, that this rather open war (with the “proxy” aspect becoming smaller by the day) metastasizes to all areas where we have troops. If the regular Russian troops are a target, moving forward, Russia may want a eye-for-eye strategy against our troops. This is a terrible prospect since regular troops are not trained to fight in the shadows. More American sons and daughters will be slaughtered for the sake of the elites’ interests in Ukraine. Please dissuade anyone from joining the military at this time–soldiers have no sponsorship in this government.
When you despise your own military leaders…
The news media/ Hollywood propaganda is a real indication who’s a tool of the D of S and SeeIAy .
I’ve not had television/cable since 2004 but my family members have the cable news on 24/7 and are all whipped up.
There is absolutely nothing that I can say to shake them out of this hypnosis.
Bravo! I cut the cord in 2005. Like taking a big dump! Cheers!
I think it’s time to reprise this little ditty (based on the 60’s movie, so only those older than dirt, like me, might remember it…):
Thoroughly Modern Milley
Everything today is thoroughly woken
(Check your white supremacy)
Everything American just has to go
(Better face plurality)
It’s not rank tyranny, says Vanity Fair…
In fact, it’s prudent to throw West Pointers in solitaire…
Have you seen the way we cancel their culture?
(No longer metaphorical)
Pull those MAGA hats right off of their brows
(Crush all the deplorables)
Goodbye to my duty, boy
I’m changing and how!
So muffle the drums, ’cause here comes
Thoroughly Modern Milley now!
It’s been a long term battle for centuries!
Evidently teaching history isn’t part of the WOKE curriculum.
The good news is, Mark Milley is usually wrong about everything. He’s a deep-state sock puppet.
Austin opened the door to the proxy war with Russia in his testimony. Milley is simply providing the Secretary’s game plan.
Both should be removed from service.
Guest stars in front of a firing squad.
Whose going to do that? Still waiting for his resignation for aiding and abetting China. Caught in the act and still nothing happened.