House Republican Victoria Spartz (Indiana CD-05) is originally from Nosivka in eastern Ukraine. Mrs. Spartz emigrated to the United States in 2000 after meeting her husband who is from Indiana.
During the Republican House press conference today, Representative Spartz delivered passionate remarks about her homeland and the regional war between Russia and Ukraine that is impacting her distant family.
The region in Ukraine outlined by Representative Spartz, is the eastern Ukraine region that has been in a state of constant conflict over the past eight years. The Russian aligned separatists in eastern Ukraine have been fighting the western Ukraine military. The Russian military forces are now supporting the separatists and tilting the outcome of the fight.
WASHINGTON DC – […] “This is not a war, this is a genocide of the Ukrainian people by a crazy man who cannot get over the Ukrainian people do not want socialism, Soviet Union, communism,” Spartz, who represents Indiana, told reporters during a GOP news conference about President Biden’s State of the Union address. “They want to be with the United States of America. They want to be free people. They want to be with the West.” (read more)
Mrs. Spartz also answered questions from media attendees (video below).
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There is a lot of complexity within the struggle inside Ukraine. There are layers of additional motives by outside elements, including the United States government and NATO, that makes that internal complexity exponential.
The conflict as presented by the corporate media boils this complex issue down to a Russia (Putin) -vs- Ukraine (Zelenskyy) issue, and that framework is done purposefully. However, inside Ukraine there are ideological factions just like there are in other nations. The influence by the U.S. and the influence by Russia has been an ongoing back-and-forth for well over a decade.
Similar to how the issues within Syria were never as simple as the media portrayed with the ever-horrible Bashir Assad, the issues in Ukraine are more complex than just horrible Vladimir Putin. When only one side of any complex issue is supported by western corporate media, the truth gets lost, because the truth is different depending on which internal faction you are talking to.
There are many Russians inside Russia who are aligned ideologically with the outlook of New York and California Democrats. There are many Ukrainians inside Ukraine who are aligned with the outlook of DC Republicans. The opposite of both is also true.
Overlay the financial motives of the World Economic Forum crowd atop the ideological motives of the Davos globalist crowd, and you realize just how convoluted these geopolitical battles can become.
Because of the influential position of the U.S. on a global scale, the outlook of Americans is valuable for each party. Therefore, there is a real battle for our mind.
Is Putin all good, no. Is Putin all bad, no. The same applies for just about every leader.
In the U.S. we are currently split about 50/50 on many issues, including -as we have seen- the issues surrounding COVID, masks, vaccinations, mandates, etc. In the battlespace of internet, we can see these differences become more visible.
Historically, our reference points were neighborhood and community based; there was less conflict visible to us, because generally on a local level there’s more unity. However, now with technology we see a much bigger picture of opinion, and with that scale of visibility we see much more conflicting opinion.
In your local tribe, there’s likely nowhere near as much friction as you witness in the social strata of the internet. That reality is why CTH continues to reemphasize the value of fellowship and local contact.
Keep this in mind as you absorb information from all sources, as you are always witnessing more conflict on-line than exists in local reality. That is the nature of this massive interconnected system that has been created by big tech.
In eastern Ukraine there are just as many people who would dispute how Representative Spartz would frame the issues, if not more. That’s not to say her outline of the situation is wrong, it just comes from a different point of reference.
In the larger dynamic, the problem that always existed with “globalism”, and the multicultural utopia they have hoped to achieve, is that in the largest of assemblies there is always more friction. The “new world order” is conflict against freedom. (Think of this as a big picture Western Ukraine outlook)
The smart nationalists have noticed this conflict; they have discussed and studied it and eventually chosen a different direction. Eventually the desire for peace, to be left alone, becomes the fulcrum of why the independent nation state is the best form of government. (Think of this as a big picture Eastern Ukraine outlook)
We in the USA are fortunate because we still have, albeit in a weakened status, a genuine constitutional republic. Meaning, each state can modify lifestyle according to the desires and choices of the people within it. If more nations took that approach, perhaps there would be less civil conflict.
Ultimately, if the United States ever fully dissolves the distinction of states, we will see greater conflict.
Spartz and the other Republican idiots are going to get thousands of Ukrainians killed for nothing with this beer muscle bravery crap. Russia can wipe The Ukraine off the map in one day. Remember the Katusha Rocket barrages from World War 2? Russian artillery and rockets are now pounding Ukrainian cities when this massacre could have ended yesterday with the Russians taking Eastern Ukraine which they already have.
Tucker Carlson’s guest tonight explains why:
Someone made a huge mistake at FoxNews:
How that guy ever escaped the “narrative police” I don’t know? Or is it a trial balloon?
Biden has Trans Team Six ready to parachute into The Ukraine tonight!
What she says goes against what everyone else says are facts on the ground. Who’s right? Maybe she’s just lying. She had better produce evidence, because it’s hard to believe it with all the other evidence.
it’s not so much that it’s propaganda. it’s that it is not really in the u.s. strategic interest to execute the foreign policy it has been doing since it got involved in vietnam. as ike warned, leaving things up to the mic, and more recently the likud mossad and its u.s. sayanim and assets, is not a wise policy. it will be tough to reverse but the world changes and likely end to the dollar’s reserve currency status the u.s. response to the u.s. instigated russian invasion of ukraine will bring will give reform and the rule of law some help.
Why don’t these people notice, if what they’re saying is right, that it’s weird that:
All of these things are consistent with a war being waged by a military that is wearing the kid gloves, not by one that is perpetrating genocide. A military waging war with kid gloves on is consistent with what Putin said his war goals are: not to conquer Ukraine, but to neutralize it, remove a regime it considers dangerous to it because it has sought membership in a military alliance aimed against it, and to rid it of Neo-Nazi militants who have been waging an 8-year-long war against separatists who declared independence from Ukraine after a US State Department orchestrated coup that ousted a president they had overwhelmingly supported.
Putin doesn’t want Ukrainians to hate him or Russia because that would make it difficult to impossible for him to achieve his war goals in any meaningful, lasting way, so he isn’t going to inflict mass death and destruction on them if he can help it. Everything we can actually see coming out of Ukraine confirms that he is waging war accordingly. Meanwhile, Ukraine, whose army is significantly smaller and substantially inferior in all important classes of arms, has only propaganda on its side. Their only hope is that foreigners will intervene on their behalf. Thus, they have an incentive to create propaganda depicting the Russians as barbarians who deliberately slaughter innocent civilians. If the Russians decline to kill civilians, expect the Ukrainian government to kill its own civilians and blame it on the Russians.
so true. and note the radical difference between russia’s treatment of ukraine and the u.s. treatment of the indochinese, the afghans, the iraqis, the libyans, the ukrainians (in ’14, mossadnik vicky nuland’s nazi-assisted putsch), and the syrians, all of which left nearly six million innocents dead in their homelands which never attacked the u.s.
the u.s. and its allies badly hanged (small hole, short rope) a dozen nazis for “aggressive war” (which all the above wars certainly were) in nuremberg gymnasium at the end of ww2.
victors write the history. somehow it seems increasingly less likely that the u.s. will be writing the history of the world starting just about with the nato-instigated russian invasion of ukraine.
You can also find videos of Russian peace protests, in Moscow, and see that the uniforms are treating the protestors much more kindly than did Trudeau’s RCMP treat the truckers. Might be time to rethink who, exactly, are the 21st century fascists.
How can a Ukrainian immigrant (or any other immigrant) “represent” the people of Indiana?
Same way Ilhan Omar represents Minnesotans. Being foreign born is only a restriction for being President. Thus, the Obama birth certificate controversy
This US representative appears to be under the impression that Ukraine is threatened by the Soviet Union, the aim being to impose communism on the population.
The Soviet Union has not existed for thirty years, and the Russian Federation is not a communist state.
This person makes Kamala Harris look like a geopolitical mastermind.
If looks could kill, this lady would’ve killed a bunch of people during the SOTU.
I’m tired of the nagging, spoiled children and their ‘bitch’ face look.
You’re not tough.
You are not a warrior.
Bombing non-stop? Surely with all of that, they can record fresh media rather than recycling old media from prior activity.
And with all the non-stop indiscriminate bombing of civilians, how do they manage to keep the infrastructure working? They must have some very impressive stuff there…. out here in the US, we get a little freezing and the power drops. It’s pretty fragile.
Like most foreigners that come to America, this woman does not give a sh*t about our borders or country and spews her one sided ethnic views. Ukraine is not our business. Let her move back to Ukraine and make speeches there. People like her have put us in the situation we are in now. Nothing is made here. We depend on Russia and opec for energy. Our so-called representatives, busy stuffing their pockets, put us in a situation where we have no leverage anymore. All we have is our “story” (gag!) and not a very good one anymore. Either we clean house or we will have empty shelves and brute squads beating us with pig bats as we starve in the “land of the free.” Will will have to change our national anthem.
I am not sure why you did not mention the papers the Russians gave to the US and NATO in December saying – no more NATO expansion into Ukraine – which expansion includes the possibility of nuclear weapons being placed in the country next store to us which is known to have a Nazi government. That might have explained the motives of Russia.
Think nuclear weapons in Mexico or Canada. How would the US like that?
Lizzie: Are you as old as me? Do you remember how JFK reacted when a more bellicose Soviet Union placed nuclear-tipped missiles in Cuber?
More propaganda and bull shit, too little too late. Where were these politicians the last two years when they need military hardware? I don’t believe any of this the uni-party crap anymore.