Last night Fox news host Tucker Carlson reported on a whistleblower contact from within the intelligence community who informed him the NSA was conducting electronic surveillance of his private communication (email and text messages). Tonight the NSA responded via Twitter:
Techno Fog spotted something most of us would also note {SEE HERE} the NSA statement is an obtuse non-denial. However, there’s a lot more in that statement that should alarm everyone. I don’t know if I can cover it all here; this is actually serendipitous for a larger framework article I have been working on. But here’s some top-line initial reactions.
First, notice the time of the tweet message. Exactly 8:00pm to coincide with the beginning of Tucker Carlson’s broadcast. That’s typical political operative snark, which wouldn’t be too surprising if it were not the fact this is from the National Security Agency.
Many people in/around the intelligence apparatus have noted and confirmed to me that most of the modern human resources, within the working analytical part of the intelligence apparatus, are immature, solitary and emotionally stunted individuals. Accepting things as they directly appear, this subtle snark is actual confirmation.
Second, “Tucker Carlson has never been an intelligence target of the agency“, is akin to the NSA previously saying the 17 Republican candidates in the 2016 presidential race were not “officially” targets of metadata surveillance; the extraction just happened because, well, it was rogue contractors from our partner agency (FBI) using the facilitation of the NSA database for their opposition research. Oh, well, if that’s all it was… and not official NSA conduct… then, well, okay, move along. Or something.
In essence, TechnoFog’s point is well taken: “there’s something else going on here,” indeed there is.
Third, don’t get too granular to the point where you cannot just see the exhibited political nature of the statement. Someone at a very high level of the NSA wanted to transmit this obtuse denial in order to give the media some framework for an Alinsky rebuttal along the lines of : right-wing ‘conspiracy theorists’ concoct wild accusation by lying about the world’s premier electronic data collection and intelligence operation. It’s the high-minded defense that appeals to an elitist world-view of being above the fray.
The peasants are revolting and our above reproach NSA institution will not be defamed on such matters. The New York Times, Washington Post and Politico will take that framework and run with it.
Fourth, the last paragraph is stunningly false to anyone who has watched the events of the last few years unfold within the intelligence apparatus writ large. “The NSA has a foreign intelligence mission“…. etc etc. Yes, technically and legally that’s accurate. However, if the NSA is exclusively a foreign intelligence mission, then why does the FBI need access to the NSA database in order to conduct surveillance domestically? Additionally, if the NSA is exclusively a foreign intelligence mission, then why would domestic law enforcement operations even be allowed access to that database? The entire NSA narrative in that paragraph is brutally false; obviously so.
Fifth, this is not about Tucker Carlson. This NSA response is directed to the claim by Tucker Carlson, but the NSA response itself is now the story here, not the Carlson claim. This response should alarm everyone. Personally, I would never expect the NSA to be so transparently political in any external communication. The visibility is indicative of a more politically bold agency. We’ve seen that bold ‘in-your-face’ approach a lot recently from the FBI, DOJ, DHS and Defense Department.
As said, I have much more on this subject that will be released in the near future… In the interim this NSA “tweet” only highlights the baseline that Americans need to accept.
There are now officially four branches of government. The modern and corrupt Intelligence Community, the proverbial “IC”, is the intelligence branch that supersedes the executive, legislative and judicial branches.
The Executive, Legislative and Judicial branches of government all defer to, and facilitate, the Intelligence branch.
The Intelligence Branch of government is a public-private partnership that includes governmental agencies and private sector technology groups, Big Tech. The partnership is funded in part by public taxpayer dollars and massive financial interests like BlackRock and Vanguard. The IC Branch is a partnership between the U.S. government and the private sector; that is why various elements within the Intelligence Branch use ‘contractors‘.
Imagine how much BlackRock and Vanguard would be willing to pay for access to the NSA database that collects the electronic data on every single transaction, communication, and record of every entity in the entire country. Imagine how much money BlackRock and Vanguard could make with access to every single bit of private information within the U.S. business world.
Now that you understand the value of the public-private partnership within the newest and most powerful branch of government, the Intelligence Branch; ask yourself this question:
…What would they do to protect it?
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hmmm. Tucker is growing on me…. But Fox…. If this is happening to Tucker, what threats does Sundance face? I’m sure every commenter here is on a watchlist… Keep up the fight Sundance!
Don’t be deceived. Tucker, like Bongino, is controlled opposition.
This is cover intended to make Tucker look like a White Hat so he can spoof us with his bull hockey. Never forget this putz mocked Trump for suggesting fraud may have occurred. Never forget he was once a raving NPR-level liberal.
Carlson is a fraud.
This is gaslighting. They’re trying a bait and switch.
I don’t buy any of it. He’s on their team…
You would have thought Tuck Tuck would have converted when Antifa beat his front door in.
No disrespect to bow ties but Tuck is a pompous self righteous blow hole who has admitted more then once on air that he is a Democrat.
He has? Source that, please.
He was once a libertarian.
Who’s a “blowhole”?
There’s plenty to criticize him for without lying. He’s not a Democrat just because he isn’t a PDTJ fan. Wr need to have a broad array of allies to win.
Rollcon is spending a lot of money lately.
Tucker is the rollcon in this situation. You don’t get to be on Fox News next to the “up next, Lindsey Graham” crew and not be compromised. All of them are compromised. Every single one. They know it and they accept it as part of the deal.
Regardless of the motivations of those who criticize Tucker, they’re correct to do so because he serves the enemy.
Well, if you say so. I dont watch Fox anymore .. I mostly get my news online from TCH and other places. But if this guy is ‘controlled opposition’ then he is telling the world that the IC is their ‘own country’ and can do whatever they want. I’m trying to see where he is going with all of this, and if he is controlled, then… its kind of strange that he has said all of this stuff out loud. I think they are looking for a tiny morsel of something they can blow up into a huge deal to get him off the air BECAUSE he is saying what he is saying.
All Democrats support the Critical Race Theory used in our schools and open boarders.
Tucker Carlson is not a supporter and he is not a Democrat.
His wife is a big time Democrat donor and rubs elbows with powerful people on the Left in DC. He lives in the Swamp so it’s no surprise the Carlsons are tainted.
<His wife is a big time Democrat donor>
Source please.
I couldn’t agree with you more, Jake. Fox is NOT a conservative network, or even an unbiased one. They are used to lead conservatives astray by pretending to be unbiased compared to the insane leftist fools of MSNBC, CNN, ABC, CBS, NYT, etc. They are a) corrupt, and b) wholly owned by the left, and they proved that beyond a shadow of a doubt in Nov. 2020. I have not watched one minute of their coverage since that time.
Anyone who takes Fox as a source of information that will stand up for conservative views is going to be bitterly disappointed. They exist to mislead those who are not crazy enough to believe the straight-out leftist networks’ propaganda.
So Sundance is being mislead?
Seneca,
You don’t remember their comments right after the election, where they roundly condemned everyone who didn’t immediately accept the fraudulent results? I do, and I was both angered and disgusted, while realizing they had finally shown their REAL loyalties, which were not to their conservative viewership.
I suggest you review their comments at that time. That convinced me not to EVER trust them again. What Sundance thinks is his own business.
We are in a war to save America.
Their are new missions every day.
The Tucker Carlson show is Ripping the Democrats.
We need more like him.
He reaches more people than we can and even a sliver of light is nonetheless light.
I believe in absolute truth. That’s Biblical since few read their Bibles Few know or practice this view point. Does Tucker once in a blue moon tell a few truths, sure, that’s how (Trump & MAGA Patriots), hating Murdock gets the ratings up for Fox.
Not entirely. He just gave you a detailed analysis. I’m pretty sure that working for the IC (whether wittingly or otherwise) does not make you immune to their spying. In fact, I’m pretty sure that the IC spies on all their assets, especially on their assets… You won’t let the inmates run the asylum.
No, but I don’t remember Sundance ever saying “Trust Tucker” or “Trust FOX”.
One can still watch FOX and Tucker, just be suspicious cat.
Tucker could be being straight here, or it could be some sort of “bait and switch” or “limited hang-out” from the Intel Community. We have to be less trusting. We have to stop looking for a hero to follow.
FOX news is more conservative then a lot of the posters on this WEB site.
Dead on! The Fox News’ job has always been to fight a holding action by developing meaningless subplots and parasitic narratives to divert resources and attention away from real crimes committed by the intel agencies.
It’s a classic misdirection aimed at preventing desperate people from taking decisive action, all that “tic toc” peddled by Hannity while Trump was attacked by the Intelligence Community. It’s all scripted.
If Hannity and Carlson are not in on this, they must be really really dumb.
Those working inside the IC have committed countless crimes against the American people. Get with that, they are the enemy.
He was a libertarian.
I was once a democrat.
Redemption is possible for all.
He grew up. Most of us do. Years ago he explained his conversion by saying he realized libertarianism is one of those things that only work on paper, doesn’t account for human nature.
T Carlson is the only thing I watch on Fox anymore. Just imo, seems like he may be having a come to Jesus moment lately, re the DC Cartel.
That’s exactly what they want… Now Tucker gave you a spy thriller to watch.
It’s all scripted. We all know what the NSA was and is doing. It doesn’t matter how their non-denial denial was worded.
Who would trust them after all we know? That’s the only valid question.
Highly esteemed Dr. Thomas Sowell was once a Marxist.
What convinced him to change?
Dr. Sowell: “Facts”.
People on the right too often demand purity when no one is pure. They demand perfection when no one is perfect. I’ve never been a Democrat, but I used to be a lot more gullible and uninformed than I am now.
Even now, I understand that those I mostly align with politically sometimes disagree with me. Sometimes that disagreement can be significant. It does not mean that they aren’t right sometimes, just as I am not always right.
We need to grow up and stop the foot stomping. Not everyone on our side is in perfect alignment with us. Indeed, not everyone who agree with us has to be “one of us.”
Imagine this shocking concept. What if people across the aisle from us politically expressed concern and interest in one area with us, such as this government spying and interference, for example. And what if they brought the subject up to us on a coffee break. And what if we didn’t jump down their throat and reinforce that we had been right all along, and say I told you so, etc., etc.
What if we let them talk, asked leading questions, respected their desire to inform themselves. What if we quietly made allies, or at the very least, we didn’t shut down a person seeking answers. What if that one conversation led to more, and that person questioned others in his orbit, and they questioned too. What if the search for truth was more important than our ego, chest beating, and declaration that we were always right. What if?
Great comment and spot on. It’s kind of hard to do that though when you’re 65 and never have “suffered fools gladly”. I’m of the opinion that nothing short of a bloody civil war will get this country back on the straight and narrow. There are far too many godless people who have no conscience which leaves them with no wisdom or integrity.
You may get your wish before this is over.
Exactly, I think 80%+ of the population can agree on 50 to 60% of things. Politicians, the Uniparty, take a few issues and “divide” us: racism, abortion, war (notice how they flipped sides under Trump), climate, etc.
They want us to attack each other on isolated sub-topics. A fractured population can stand together, just as a fractured party can’t stand together.
Kevin O’Leary in an interview said something very interesting. He stated he wasn’t interested in investing in Tesla, but his son did an internship there and told him: “dad, they’re not a car company, but a data company” That changed his view on how to valuate them, he realized the value the data they can gather on their customers can be to future growth and product development.
Just like Apple, I imagine they stopped including the charging power adapter with iPhones because their data shows how many people are actually using the provided charger. They know what percentage of people are using wireless charging devices, they know what percentage of people are using particular software features.
Data is powerful. We need to keep the government out of the data business unless it has to do with direct consumer access, e.g. the IRS knowing what percentage of people eFile and making adjustments to business practices.
That’s all fine and dandy except for one “1” thing.
If you speak to the person in question ( Why are you a Democrat ?) They answer with I was born a Democrat, What would make you proceed?
This was presented to me by my 89 year old lesbian friend some years ago when talking about her friends who are all ? Democrats. She said they won’t talk about politics when she’s with them any more. Background, I’ve done remodeling work for her and her partner who recently passed for over 35 years, strong Conservative ladies. They have had handguns for 25 – 35 years and concealed permits in Michigan and Florida.
They lived in Lansing, Michigan for most of their life ever since she graduated from Michigan State.
Very well said, Menagerie.
Amen.
What a great point all of US have different opinions so WHAT.
We have to stop eating our OWN!
Amen. One of the most important things my parents taught me is the fact that I absolutely must be able to understand. That I can be completely and totally wrong about any subject or topic I have a position on. Sometimes my theories are wrong. Sometimes I misread the data. Or more likely, new data refutes the old. Be aware of your own biases. Conformation bias is a terrible thing, in that it makes me dispute any new information that doesn’t confirm or support my preexisting beliefs. Though I may be inclined to think so at times, I’m not more intelligent or informed than every single person who disagrees with me.
“Seek first to understand,
Then to be understood”
I’m a bit of a step ahead of you. I saw my brother this past weekend for the first time in more than a year. He was shockingly agreeable, maybe simply because I said nothing and only listened. It blew my mind that in the past he has always been a true blue liberal but he was espousing many of the conservative ideas. Somebody got to him. Wow. Best visit I’ve had with him in many years.
I’ve also seen some sense of reasonableness in my liberal friends. My theory is that once the election was over, and Biden took over the administration, they stopped watching CNN and MSNBC and the hate started leaving their bodies, and reason started taking control. Not completely, but started.
Perzactly!!! I’m pretty sure it won’t be long before President Trump is called “controlled opposition” too. After all many seem to believe he is led around by his daughter and son in law…
I agree, but what if a big percentage of people are not thinking clearly because they have been brainwashed, hypnotized, drugged?
I am reminded of the couple that created a scene at Walmart’s yelling at me for not wearing a mask. The man said, “I hope you end up on a respirator.” And when I said, “I don’t wish that on you why would you wish that on me?”, that’s exactly when they completely lost it and went ballistic as heard halfway down the check out lines. My son told me he thought they went so crazy because they believe they are the virtuous ones and what I said put them in cognitive dissonance and they lost it.
I think these two people have been brainwashed somehow, probably by TV talking heads or the like. And I am afraid the percentage of people like this is quite large, hence the people who had covid, then got fully vaccinated, then still wear masks (even multiple masks at the same time.) I know people like this. Someone has gotten in their heads.
Fear is the absence of God. If only these people had God “in their heads,” they wouldn’t be as susceptible to all this Marxist drivel.
Tucker was never a liberal.
He has always been what we used to call a “country club Republican.” The last few years he has been sounding the alarm that that brand of elitism is causing a revolt.
Whether Tucker is sincere or not, his website The Daily Caller was instrumental in breaking the NSA campaign spying story and debunking the Russia hoax. That’s just a fact and I’m grateful.
Here’s a question everyone should ask; is there ANYONE in the MSM who is saying what Tucker is saying, or doing what Tucker is doing?
Could Tucker do more? Sure, he could, but maybe he can’t. Maybe he’s under restraint by his bosses who like the ratings and the revenue, but not so much the content. And my guess is that Tucker is the buoy that is keeping Fox afloat.
Like you, I think Tucker has changed his country-club Republican outlook somewhat.
Re “Here’s a question everyone should ask; is there ANYONE in the MSM who is saying what Tucker is saying, or doing what Tucker is doing?”
What Tucker and some others ‘on the right’ are doing as opposed to what the Deep State media is doing is simply a variation of law enforcement’s Good Cop, Bad Cop routine.
anyone that follows this site and also faithfully watches MSM with the exclusion of (factual conservative) News soucres not on Cable, is a ding bat in my opinion. It’s no wonder they are misinformed and confused as to the absolute real truth.
LOL
Yeah. BEFORE the steal that was true. He was allowed to do any story he wanted and covered the crimes he was seeing from the RIGHT. So he’d vacillate between sparring with Woke professors but then show massive corruption from the very people Trump was fighting on the corrupt RINO Right too. Trump watched nightly and acted as quickly as he could on the corruption Tucker exposed. That was informative and he named names. It was riveting, and we were all learning a lot.
BUT in the run up to the Election he either came under new control OR wasn’t that honest all along. He helped vouch for Hunter and ultimately buried that story.
And after it was all claiming Biden really won and giving fake stories about “why” AND pounding Sydney Powell AND making sure no one on FOX is aware of all the vast evidence of the Steal they caused.
Give a clip of something helpful from him. He does the lab leak stuff which Jon Stewart was ok with. He’s 5 months behind the border stuff and shows images of the flying around of the illegals which is interesting but we heard about it over a month ago.
The only part I thought was helpful which was him pounding Abbott for not sending in Nat’l guard was outed by some commentors as a red herring too which I’ll let those more informed than I explain.
But he is a lying, controlled opp misdirection master trying to racialize this story too so you won’t notice FOX and the business community are working together with Enemedia to ALWAYS HIDE WHAT THEIR WORK AND CONDITIONS AND ABUSE (SEXUAL AND OTHERWISE) OF THE ILLEGALS ARE
AND THE WAY THEY ARE USED as cover for the vote stuffing
If the Left are compassionate, and everyone needs 15 bucks an hour and a life of luxury for bagging groceries why aren’t they curious about labor and sex abuse of a massive neo-slave operation?
If Tucker is so concerned about our border wide open, and shows “separated kids” flown about WHY isn’t he showing how red states ALSO ennable massive welfare fraud AS they benefit from the same slave labor and chaos the Left is?
He gave the same friggin lie. “They are welfare seekers with a lot of criminals too.” Yes, but the full story is the welfare scams are another way the UniParty shovels and smears money around for easy laundering AND they get millions of warm bodies who they can use for all kinds of things from Woke Military to sweat shops to the sex houses.
And in general it’s the same crap.
Because I see the okey-doke where 1) they install Biden. 2) HELP him do trillions and trillions in damage every day and commit mass and daily damage then 3) We’re supposed to act like now FOX is the great place to LEARN what THEY are doing and 4) Now go and vote and donate to the RINOs who are the great solution.
I’ll be at Bannon. FOX is Enemedia, in on the crime. And the cover up. And now more crime.
Being principled and pragmatic is sort of like chewing bubblegum and walking at the same time–its not really difficult unless you make it tough.
Or, as I’ve said on these pages and elsewhere; Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
when did Tucker make this racial? I guess I missed that ..
You know what makes the bubble people change? When they realize that they no longer sit above the fray. When they, like it or not, realize that they themselves are *in* the fray.
What does it take to snap out of the bubble? Who knows? A beat down by Antifa goons? Bioweapons unleashed in your community?
Useful idiots always enjoy that bubble life, however briefly, until they aren’t useful anymore. Then they can no longer enjoy the luxury of ignoring reality.
And now he is instrumental in keeping you NOT talking about the only thing that matters, that YOU have no power to vote anymore, to the extent you ever did. That FOX was ground zero for setting off the steal, that Tucker was put in the lead of telling everyone the election was legit and “WHY” Trump lost. OK, this mofo blamed it on white men. AND tried to keep everyone divided by claiming that Trump’s mass appeal was a BAD thing. So the other thing was HE BLAMED TRUMP FOR DOING OUTREACH to every community.
WHY? Why aren’t they happy that Trump actually got a mass exodus of white voters from Dem to GOP across vast swaths like Wisconsin, OH, PA, energized the base to historic highs, AND got the massive increase of unity and working together WITH blacks, Latinos and so forth.
He’s really, really helpin’ ya? Have you ever seen the footage of the BALLOT STUFFING CAUGHT ON TAPE, AT THE GA SPORTS ARENA, then covered up by A “REPUBLICAN” governor, Lt. Gov and Sec of State?
If you have it wasn’t at any of these controlled op outfits (FOX, Drudge, Breitbart, Mann Coulter) designed to KEEP you focused on the WRONG things AND divided racially whatever else works.
FOX is poison because for years they have used everyone’s patriotism, love of military and stuff like that to do the OPPOSITE which is get us stuck in for profit sand trap wars blowing up the patriots who trusted them the most.
And now they are in the race divide game. And the distract from any real issue game (right now the real main issues are they have stolen our ability to vote and are ennabling a globalist takeover with a massive influx of slaves here AND they are in cahoots using China as the foreign center of slave labor that helps their rise).
What is so cynical, dirty, underhanded and GROSS about the new Tucker-Breitbart-UniMedia racial divide tactic is for the LEFT the racial division comes out of cultural Marxism.
But for the RIGHT this is old “stoke white racial resentment” tactic that Tucker and Joe Scarborough used to talk about back when they were colleagues. Scarborough claimed he’d been part of using it in the “Redneck Riviera” when he and Tucker both worked on FOX, then again when they were “poorly treated” “Conservatives” at MSNBC .
But still Left and Right media are working together on the same objective.
If you actually watched them work together on the Steal (FOX lead fake calls, hid all evidence of fraud, now distracts with “white resentment” pieces and does all the same stories they do with the Con twist) it’s ridiculous you’d go crawling back to your batterer with your black eye and bleeding lip swearing he’s the one who loves you and this time the love is for reals.
I for one do not care if Tucker Carlson is being spied upon.
I thought Snowden put this issue to rest, we are all being spied upon by the NSA.
I care only about the Arizona audit (and the auditing in other states). But I am thinking they will not allow us to know the result without UFOs or alien landings or some such distraction.
I made a list of conservative talking heads who accepted the obviously fraudulent election, and said, “move on, nothing to see here” and I haven’t listened to them or turned them on since. I see clips of Tucker here only.
Well said, and I agree. Our real President even resurrected ‘The Snake’ at his first official rally since the treasonous coup.
Is this just a cute fairy tale he likes to share from time to time, or is he trying to warn us about the deceivers? The last time I heard him recite The Snake was before the 2016 election.
Even a blind squirrel occasionally finds a nut. I’m not letting Tucker back into my good graces. Waiting for the other shoe to drop……waiting….waiting.
Fox news host Tucker Carlson is exposing the Critical Race Theory used in our schools.
Useful information for anybody who wants to learn about our Democratic controlled schools.
When Tucker talks about Critical Race Theory he is a white hat.
BRAVO!!!!!! TUCKER SUCK, NEVER WATCH THE FOOL MYSELF. NOR FOX OR NEWSMAX. This is more of the watch this over here, and not what is really going on over there behind the curtain. Anytime someone say something and in the middle or mid stream of said statement they add the word BUT or words that are the Equivalent to But, you can be assured the whole statement is BS.
“This is cover intended to make Tucker look like a White Hat so he can spoof us with his bull hockey.”
OMG. Paranoia will destroy ya’.
It’s impossible that anyone other than Sundance is sincere, right?
One of the key strategies of the CIA and FBI is to develop exactly that sort of division within groups opposing the wishes of the oligarchy.
It looks like they’ve succeeded in spades.
Yep
if the guy is ona national show, like Tucker and Bongino, they are frauds.
How many times are you gonna fall for the banana in the tail pipe?
Ingraham, Levin, Jesse, etc.
If they were a real danger, they would be deplatformed.
Not paid millions.
BJ, Tucker may be controlled opposition, but lets not make the perfect the enemy of the good. To the degree that Tucker is getting information out which NO other MSM journalist is should not be discounted or disparaged.
I’m not saying Tucker isn’t controlled opposition–I don’t know, no one truly does. But what I am saying is that even if he is, then, as the saying goes, half a loaf is better than none at all.
I won’t watch Tucker until he leaves Eddie Muenster’s Faux news. None of his stories are news to me anyway, because we have Sundance to throw sunlight on these issues of the day.
If tick-Tucker’s broadcasts help bring the lo-fo’s up to speed, then great. Let us hope they aren’t too thrown off, though, by the dis-info and gaslighting that always goes hand-in-hand on faux news.
Judith, I don’t think anyone quibbles with your TV news viewing choices. However, ask yourself this; why does Sundance occasionally reference Carlson’s show (and twice in as many days this week)?
I applaud Sundance for taking one for the team. I don’t know how he does it. Once my trust in somebody (or faux news) is shaken, it’s not that easy to earn it back.
IDK about Bongino, but I’ve had my doubts about Tucker since the night he came to the aid of Hunter Biden, saying that Hunter had been a neighbor of his and that Hunter was a nice enough guy, or words to that effect. It’s difficult to tell when these TV personalities are being sincere, but regardless, Tucker’s positive comments about Hunter Biden were inappropriate and unnecessary, unless they were meant to tamp down criticism of Biden’s son at a critical juncture.
Fox news host Tucker Carlson is exposing the DEMs open boarder disaster.
He gets a thumps up for his coverage.
Useful information for voters.
Possibly Tucker needs to be removed not for any apparent sin. Possibly now he is less useful there or the time slot could be needed as a reward for a young loyal up and comer (who could that be?). Of course as a water carrier, he may not agree with that and as such the survalence could be used as a reminder of his significance, sort of like a refresher course, no intention of using the stick just showing it. Tucker now demonstrates a bit of resistance by making it public, like a dog shredding the rolled up newspaper that was used for discipline. I would bet there are other forms of discipline that can be applied.
You realize that Tucker has the #1 top rated cable tv show don’t you? Needs to be removed my rear end. None of them are perfect, just like the rest of us.
OK. So “everyone is the enemy”? Is that the message here? Also? Is the message “stop thinking and start panicking”?
I believe that after Tucker’s explosive reportage about Jan. 6, IC simply wants to know how he came to know the truth about the slobs in power!
The nonsense about being, or not being a ‘target,’ is something IC foisted on the entire public during The Russia Hoax (including President-elect Donald Trump) as a despicable tactic to deceive us, him and the entire Nation. Here, it sounds like NSA may be surveilling possible leakers (targets, in IC speak) that may have contacted Tucker about his Jan. 6 reporting, and possibly on other explosive stories of late). Of course, these would be leakers of the patriotic variety, people who today should be in leadership, while those currently in leadership should doing twenty to life.
Moreover, it is highly likely this surveillance is also of the Russia Hoax variety in order to be used for a host of purely political purposes, alleging legitimate motives as subterfuge for their usual and expected cravenness.
Remember it was Glenn Simpson that set up the Russia meting in Trump Tower. I would assume this was a pretext for spying at that location. You never know who might have set up Tucker in a similar fashion.
Yeah, I am replying to my own post. Just easier. I appreciate the skepticism around Tucker. Controlled Op? Maybe. DS trolls on this thread? Maybe. But that just sharpens the lesson: be a critical thinker. All of the replies I see indicate exactly that. Which of course is why we come here.
Perhaps the more important point isn’t what any of us think about Tucker, but instead what it means if either 1) he is genuine, or 2) he is controlled op (knowingly or not – “bless his heart,” willingly or not). Both lead to the same place I think….
And my concern regarding Sundance/CTH remains… To put it lightly, Skynet!
Appreciate you all. MAGA
This certainly is an interesting and very serious subject we are discussing today. At this point the old trust but verify does not even work for me anymore.
There are times when people will say the right things do the right things and we assume they are on our side but then WHEN IT MATTERS MOST wham they will take the opposite side and trusting people will believe simply because they have been conditioned to trust that person . I’m sure the opposition knows this and uses this to their advantage because I do believe conservative people are more trusting and and much more easily lead than the opposition . I believe time will tell with Tucker with his exposed spying by the NSA
In these time nothing is as it seems But remember Romans 8:28. Grammy
Who’s on a ‘watchlist’?
Good post.
That’s for sure.
Thanks, there are some hilarious memes at fdrinhell.com…
Just two of them:
Arizonians will get this:
LMAO!!!!
Re Whittaker Chambers extract,
This is such a massively important little excerpt (three short paragraphs), that almost tempts one to commit it to memory, so richly would it reward the effort!!
I don’t expect anything much from anyone any more particularly talking heads on tv. But, I do appreciate hearing the truth when it is spoken. Listening to some of the folks attacking Tucker and joining in like a pack of wolves reminds how despicable the human race can be.
Maybe some of the more outspoken ones here should get their own slot on tv and see how well they fare
All of that . And they can’t find anything on our great President Trump. Wow.
Haha Tucker. Watch out. What they are doing is illegal but they have done it to others. President Trump, for one. Michael Flynn, another. Link yourself to the bigger story is my advice.
I cannot help but wonder still why Michael Flynn had lawyers from Covington. After all, Eric Holder worked for that firm. Why would someone so hated by Obama hire a firm that had employed Obama’s wing man? No wonder he was financially broken and on the verge of a life in prison. Then there was Michael Cohen using Lanny Davis. What sense is there in either of these cases?
I think Michael Flynn didn’t know the side his bread was buttered on and had a rude awakening.
Dunno about Gen. Flynn. As to Cohen, he was financially stretched to the max. His wife and all her friends were (are?) staunch Dems and staunchly anti-Trump. I strongly suspect they paid his legal bills (directly or indirectly) provided he hired someone like Lanny (who was only too happy to accept this one!) I know some of those friends, and they said they were helping Cohen and his wife.
“It can happen to us”
It is happening to us everyday and you can bet your bottom dollar everything said here is well noted.
SD, I still wonder if this entire whistleblower vignette was a setup by NSA to have Tucker put the country on notice to keep us serfs in line.
I doubt it most people who watch Tucker already know the extent to which these jerks will go to spy on people illegally, Sharyl Attkinson, President Trump etc. Hello this is not new can you say Edward Snowden?
Yup. It’s not working though.
SD, your last three paragraphs gave it away. 😉
If you have a public / private feeding frenzy of sensitive, highly private, extremely detailed meta data on nearly every person in this country (and soon, if not already, on the globe), the financial incentive would be in the tens of trillions.
That is a world-ending financial incentive.
I occasionally leave a postscript on my emails, with very offensive insults directed at those who are unconstitutionally reading my correspondence.
I smile and wave to them all the time.
??Every breath you take
Every move you make…
I’ll be watching you ??
I always hated that song because it is about voyeurism and obsession. Guess what? The FBI and NSA are very much into that.
If you want to see an egregious example of FBI / Intel. Community malfeasance, check out the latest Jeffery Epstein documentary: Epstein’s Shadow: Ghislaine Maxwell
You should see how many women informed the FBI about Epstein and they did absolutely nothing (even mocked the callers) and actually covered it up through the DOJ/Intel. Community.
If you consider yourself an honest American, you would have to be out of your mind to contact an Alphabet Agency, talk to them, work for them, believe in anything they say or believe in any “evidence” they produce.
I am at the point of where if I had to serve on a jury where the FBI / Intel Community was in anyway involved in a case, I would vote for immediate acquittal.
Look back at the history of ghislaines father Robert Maxwell
And you will have your answer.
Government is serving oligarchs
Mueller at the FBI made Epstein an informant so he would be protected and they could blackmail people together. That comes from the FBI Vault 7 leak.
A British comedienne mocked Hollywood at the Golden Globes about Epstein as one of theirs operating in plain view.
Its not about the $, exclusively,…or even mainly.
For those addicted to POWER, $ is just an easily transportable and transferable form of POWER.
And for such addicts, a thimblefuls too much, and a barrels not enough; they are never satiated in their lust for power.
Thing is, while they congregate and work together now, to amass power, ultimately they will fight amongst themselves, as “Sauron does not share power”.
Dutch,
Ceasar would agree.
The NSA posted that at 8pm because they wanted to get ahead of whatever Tucker said in his show tonight, which as you said, proves their motives.
Tucker was notified and he called them out. The little weasels of NSA need a smack down.How to do it?
Have a legitimate election, get Trump back in there and then on day 1 fire everybody in the FBI, CIA, NSA and State Department. Kick his feet up on the desk, and let the media howl.
It’s the old banana in the tail pipe trick.
Suckers fall for it every time.
A potato works better. Stelter is who ya want there.
Are you calling Sundance a sucker?
Big Jake is paying attention. Is anybody else?
Thank you, Jovu. Perhaps I have paid too much attention to Col. John Boyd……..but I smell a rat.
Let’s see. Tonight we have Sanajc, Big Jake, Jovu, Ackmann. Fun to watch you guys work!
I don’t really know anyone that takes a news source at face value. News bits are analyzed individually and not swallowed wholesale based on the presenter.
Reading this thread I found myself wondering if I was on ZH or CTH.
Tucker is either being false or not. What is the difference in the end game? It is merely a level of degree…. Unless of course Tucker says he made it all up for ratings and in so doing discredits all DS skeptics… And if that’s the case skeptical cat will make an appearance.
Playing it forward, what’s in it for who?
So, you don’t give us credit for being able to sort out what to believe and what not to.
I can take care of myself, thanks.
Boy, each night Tucker brings out a lot of folks late at night to post here. Hmmm.
And he’ll be immediately impeached and they’ll claim a mental disorder.
The conventional route would be 4 years of CONSERVATIVE appointments by Trump to DOJ, then 4 more by DeSantis.
Fire FIB WFO? Cut the State Departments budget?
Cut the budget of almost every department. Once done, it will be easy to see which agencies are absolutely corrupt. They will continue their wicked ways and let go the real American needs. This should become painfully obvious, even to the Marxists in the Deep State support groups.
Add the CDC to the list. No more lock downs, funding of gain of function research gifted to the Chinese, etc.
.. funded by the Dept of Defense and DHS, among others.
Can we fire the howling ENEmedia too?
“Tucker Carlson has never been an “INTELLIGENCE” target of the NSA.”
So, what kind of target was Tucker Carlson? A political target? A blackmail target? A criminal target?
Sounds like the Potomac Two Step!
He’s not a target, he’s a teammate. They’re doing this to make us “trust” him as one of “us” when he’s anything but.
After the circus we’ve witnessed by the IC and FBI over the past four years nothing would surprise me!
I agree with you Big Jake. I believe that they tried to get Lou Dobbs to join the team and he wasn’t playing, so Cavuto cancelled his show.
Cavuto–now there’s a real journalist! He flip flops more than Fauci!
That’s what I was thinking. Fox doesn’t need the NSA to get rid of Tucker’s show, Eddie Munster can do it, like they did to Lou Dobbs! I also think “they” are trying to get us to think of Tucker as a “deep state victim.” Maybe Tucker is one of the few remaining shows the deplorables watch anymore.
Lou Dobbs, HERO.
Here’s the thing. We knew at the time that thank God Trump was actually fighting because it was going to show us what was corrupted and what was not.
Bad news: turns out every institution we believed in is quite lost, UniParty has UniMedia, the cabals and tech giants are against you.
Odd WHO the good guys are
1) Mike Lindell is a warrior. I am sorry but that is so shocking and wonderful. I liked him but if he’d been an opportunistic infomercial type I would not have been surprised. THAT HE IS SO LEGIT IS THE SURPRISE OF ALL TIME and HE is the real deal.
What people are claiming Tucker is, fooled so easily I don’t know why, Mike Lindell ACTUALLY is.
If you want the ACTUAL truth, listen to a Lindell interview certainly never FOX noise prime time line up of liars.
2) Maria Bartiromo. Beauty, brains AND truthful? I’m so impressed with her.
3) Lou Dobbs is on my Mt. Rushmore now, I’ve now seen him refuse to bend to TWO corrupt outfits, CNN AND now FOX noise.
All this wasted time on controlled op Tucker should be spent trying to find out where Dobbs is because that is a Mt. Rushmore of integrity.
We should be trying to elevate Lindell, find Dobbs, be more up with Project Veritas, keep an eye on Bartiromo.
More Bannon and friends.
And lots of betrayals were sad shockers.
I think Tucker was bribeable for the same reason Joe Scarborough was. They just want to be t.v. stars so badly and have the mansions and yachts that if I had to guess the Achilles heel for both of them, it was that.
Imagine being Tucker. You have spent half your life bouncing around t.v. shows, always the guy on the outside. Then you are off t.v. for years and have to put together some blog to get by.
Suddenly FOX noise gives you a t.v. show and you’re the star–NO CO-HOST, no direction you just cover any story you want however you want.
You do that and it’s (for cable) a huge hit. The president watches, you’re making money hand over fist. At midlife your dreams have come true and you’re old enough to know this is rarer than getting hit by lightning and you are still young enough to want that for the long haul.
THEN your network turns out to be controlled op? Are you going to stick to your principles like Dobbs, tell the truth?
Or be a well paid star? You’ll now put the approved spin on things. But the dream doesn’t end. You’re a player now.
We’ve now seen 99% of politicians are bribeable, all of Hollyweird has been on the casting couch for fame, is it really a surprise all our talking heads are bribeable too?
The ugly truth is we’ve found out the Lindells and Dobbs of the world who will sacrifice everything to help and undo the globalist hell are RARE.
Why do we need to trust him?
Exactly. Trust him or don’t trust him. The real story is that this entire situation shows the medium information “voters” / viewers how corrupt the IC really is and that they can do it to anyone. This brings a percentage of the population to a more red-pilled reality. Don’t alienate them during their red-pill journey or they may slip back to blue. Think about it as a high school date and jumping from 1st base to third if that helps. Not the way to go. Of course most folks here are not about to slip to blue so have at it but if you do this outside of places like this people who are coming around to the truth will just throw up their hands and quit altogether because they won’t have anyone to trust.
@ Lafayette: “Trust him or don’t trust him. The real story is that this entire situation shows the medium information “voters” / viewers how corrupt the IC really is and that they can do it to anyone. ” Yup. see my comment upthread. Either way, result the same
Got it. Thank you
So why is Sundance treating it seriously?
Get off of it, for Pete’s sake. We heard you the first time up thread. So you think Tucker is just a Trojan Horse, so be it. Since you know this- then act accordingly and keep a close eye on him. Right? Friends close but enemies closer. And if you know, he’s a Trojan Horse, just keep him outside of your gates.
Ta-da……problem solved.
I enjoyed his posts. Why can’t you scroll by him? Ta da. Solve your problem.
Different people notice different things. I learn from their angle and didn’t see all the posts so I appreciate it. If he’s responding to different people that’s how it goes.
Those who like Tucker are allowed to repeat that though? Interesting rule there.
I feel this way whenever some “official” has a public tussle like a bitch slap on their front lawn, a dingdong ditch or -Heaven forbid- an interrupted meal.
Talk to me when your car blows up with you inside it or you get suicided with two shots to the back of the head. These are the real “whistleblowers.” The rest are posers, doing exactly as they are told to avoid Arkancide.
Implying he is a dummy who has no “Intelligence? ” Doesn’t rate with what the NSA does and has?
Perhaps he wasn’t a target – but he was definitely a subject.
Apparently not one of Tucker’s colleagues stood-up for him today or even mentioned this story. No mention of it on Fox and friends. Nothing on Hannity . The head of Fox news Jay Wallace declined any comment. They must be terrified of becoming a target of the NSA so are keeping their heads down. Disgusting cowards.
I have no doubt that what Tucker says is true. He said the whistleblower had details of an upcoming segment he is working on so there can be no doubt that they have been reading his emails and texts. There is no way Tucker would make up a story like this. He would have to be insane to make up a lie about the NSA.
I agree. I don’t understand the people who think Tucker is “controlled opposition”. He has taken too many courageous stands against the deep state to be considered controlled opposition. Tucker is literally putting his life on the line with the positions he is taking lately.
Now Sean Hannity with his ever present FBI lapel pin – that’s what controlled opposition looks like!
‘They must be terrified of becoming a target of the NSA so are keeping their heads down.’
They are already targets of the NSA, they already know it. ?
Sounds like it’s not just the NSA if this is happening because some of these exact same wording is used by the NSC when they were spying on PDJT
Let’s not beat around the bush — the United States descended into fascism on October 26, 2001 with the signing of the Patriot Act by Dubya. It may or may not have had a quasi-functional government prior, but PATRIOT Act combined with Citizens United (and McCain Feingold being crushed) made the age of oligarchs inevitable. Tech made it happen faster, sure, but it was already on the way before Facebook was even a clever idea stolen by a jew in a Harvard dorm room.
All that is left is the fire. And that’s coming quickly.
IT is actually PATRIOTS Act as the “Patriots” part is a long acronym like the military and Congress like to use that has some neutral sounding euphemism
Even a beer distillery sees the fire on the horizon. They’ve named themselves END OF DAYS BEER DISTILLERY. They are in Wilmington, NC
If Carlson was controlled op he wouldn’t be going into such detail exposing the DeepState. He seems legit and his days on FOX mainstream NEWS may be numbered. The fake news networX don’t really care about ratings they care about one thing: propaganda!
Great reply!
It’s true. Today’s communist circles have money galore. Non-profit, don’t ya know!
Then why did we just get THIS story posted here a few days ago? A story claiming 16 other Leftwing journalists call him their “great source” and essentially work together.
“Fox News personality Tucker Carlson, who routinely rails against the mainstream media, is reportedly a secret and frequent source for reporters in the very organizations he attacks, according to The New York Times.
“Mr. Carlson, a proud traitor to the elite political class, spends his time when he’s not denouncing the liberal media trading gossip with them,” wrote media columnist Ben Smith. “He’s the go-to guy for sometimes-unflattering stories about Donald J. Trump and for coverage of the internal politics of Fox News (not to mention stories about Mr. Carlson himself).”
Carlson’s willingness to dish is an “open secret” in Washington, according to Smith.
Smith said he trades messages with Carlson himself, and said 16 other journalists from outlets other than the Times had all said Carlson has been a source, with three calling him a “great source.”
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tucker-carlson-secret-source_n_60d01ab7e4b0e08c64bc5158
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Sites were trying to help Tucker, we were supposed to be “mad” and horrified that journalists outed their “source” Tucker against all tenets of journalism.
When in fact it just shows they are all still working together calling each other to trade notes, gossip, unflattering stuff about Trump and in the end figure out what the fake “competition” is doing for a good feel for how to shade the narrative for your audience.
If you remember “Journaliste” they did this by email until someone got in. Now same damn thing only faux news now in it too AND via phone calls instead.
Alarming Yes. However, I have absolutely no sympathy whatsoever for Sucker Carlson, also known as Little Lord Fauntleroy, who completely ignored all of the election fraud.
That he did! But then we knew he was wrong, and now we know he is right! What’s important to you?
Yes, he’s just like all of the CongressCritters whining about being shadow-banned and/or cancelled by tiny tech. This is what happens when you don’t do your job.
Not only that! He was hardly on the ‘Russian Hoax’ nonsense going on since 2015.
He is Mr. Milquetoast in my book – the tragedy is that at this moment in history this is the best we got!
Neither his performance at the beginning on the covid fiasco regarding PDJT and his responses to Jan 6 were not sterling, either
Also, what has happened to Mark Steyn appearances??
Sounds to me like the demons who imagine themselves masters of all they survey, are worried…
Every long serving dictator had to purge his closest advisors now and again. That is the way you stay in power. Trust no one. Donald Trump was played as was all of us and they aren’t going to give it back without a fight. So argue all you like about the local school boards and mayors, but real change will not be gentle and ending NSA spying ain’t going to happen.
Just lay down and take their crap and die you suckers. Great advice tax2much..
I think you misunderstood tax? I think they are saying there will be no changing it through radical federalism but only by bloodshed.
There is so much speculation and so many theories about what is going on. My suggestion is to do three things.
“face value”
yep
I see a lot of “controlled opposition yada yada” noise on this thread
But I’ll tell ya, I see more truth-per-minute on the Tucker Carlson show than I do from most any other source except Conservative Treehouse
Day after day:
— absolutely withering coverage of border issues
— absolutely withering coverage of the Jan 6 fiction Dems are attempting
— absolutely withering coverage of Critical Race Theory and other perversions of our schools
You get the idea
Today he covered the buses and airplanes funneling illegals into the heartland
He called out Texas Governor, basically “why HAVEN’T you deployed Texas National Guard to seal the border? It’s Texas’s border too” … said Texas Governor wouldn’t come on the program to respond
He’s broken this current story about NSA surveillance wide into the open … that doesn’t make him look like the Biden administration’s lap dog to me
— where else has America heard about NSA surveillance of Americans if they don’t read Treehouse or other conservative sources?
— how many Americans are aware of FBI/NSA-database surveillance of Pres Trump and his campaign
So if he’s a ‘controlled-op lapdog’ of Biden and the Left, I don’t see that they’re getting much for their money’s worth, given that he exposes and embarrasses them every day
Nimrod, I agree.
Today (Wednesday), Tucker needs to seize the opportunity presented by the NSA here:
He can now go back in time and present to those who don’t know how the NSA, FBI, and CIA spied on Trump. Read the Collyer letter. Put out in the public square all of the stuff we have at CTH already know. Show the public the government docs. Show how they swept the spying under the rug. Show the rest how they used contractors to usurp the system and then tie it to the deals the JoeyB regime just made with FB, Twitter, YT, etc., regarding a coalition between government and private businesses to spy on us- including using the post office.
So many still do not know about any of that stuff.
Dwayne – I agree with your suggestions for Tucker. Lets see what he actually does??
I, while not writing Tucker off, am VERY cynical about his desire or ability to carry things thru’ to conclusion. He is a gadfly.
Remember all the drama with the Hunter Biden business assoc, Tony Bubulinski – today it is tho’ none of that ever happened.
Now he is on about the buses taking illegals into the middle of the USA – this is exactly what Obama did
during his rule, why does Tucker not mention that and tie the two things together? If I as a housewife in some cowboy town in Western Canada knows this why doesn’t he????
As I said before, the tragedy is that he is the best we got on TV – thank goodness for sundance, Warroom, Raheem and Gateway for picking up the slack as best they can.
Tucker isn’t the only person under surveillance. Each and every single one of us, to some degree is under government watch. Big brother is here and becoming more and more efficient in their purpose every day. The creation of the internet has many positive aspects. But like all things it’s a two sided sword, it cuts both ways. I believe that the government’s internet intelligence programs are based on 24 / 7 monitoring of every email and the sites Americans repeatedly visit. They also use our phones to track our movements. They use out newer cars to do the same. Did you know that years ago, for the benefit of insurance companies. Your car’s computer had the ability to record your speed and if and when you applied your brakes just prior to your car being involved in an accident? This information was then used to place the blame on the driver at fault. How many home computers and televisions have cameras and auto capability? They know who we contact on the Web and for how many minutes. They know the TV programs we watch. They know where we repeatedly travel to, and the time we spend at one given place. Their social media method is very basic in design. They have a list of trigger words that when used automatically separates the message and the person sending and or replying to the text. That message is automatically analyzed and either dismissed or filed for a more comprehensive analyzation. The list of so called domestic terrorists, in other words Americans who believe in the Constitution, love America and our way of life. It’s all down hill now folks. There’s no political party or country out there who will save us. In other words there’s no more Americas like we, the used to be leader of the free world. At one time we were the powerful nation that saved the world from Hitler and his evil brethren. We were the force that held the socialists and communists at bay. WHO WILL DO IT NOW???????
The government does not need the NSA to spy on us. They just use social media.
Something tells me that the FOIA process is going to be a bit more difficult, or slower, at least for the next few years.
Any wagers on how long it’s going to be before we see the relevant 702s, if ever?
However: VSGPDJT’s wonderful speech in Ohio had my household cheering. The many thousands attending there had us cheering, too. We’re irrepressible.
The Donald is back, bigly; the Jared isn’t. The DC plutocrats must be sweating bullets even as they do their darnedest to carry out their dark agenda. I remember a MAD Magazine from decades ago featuring a panel titled “The Best-Splayed Plans of Mice and Men”.
Carlson isn’t “controlled opposition” for general purposes, rather there are certain positions he cannot take publicly and still work for Fox News, chiefly that the election was stolen. He knows it was but he knows he cannot say so and retain his multimillion dollar gig. But I see no reason to distrust him on the issues on which he is free to speak the truth.
“He knows it was but he knows he cannot say so and retain his multimillion dollar gig”
Yes – all too true
There’s another aspect that strikes me, and it has to do with the difference between news reportage and opinion
Carlson’s show is a combination of the two. He’s giving a lot of news coverage of key issues in addition to offering his opinions on them and the proportions vary from story to story.
On the issue of stolen election, I don’t really need his opinion on that, there are plenty of other outlets (Gateway Pundit for one) and individuals (Mike Lindell’s group, Sidney Powell’s group, Rudy awhile back) offering evidence and testimony and opinion
But the key matter is still speculative until demonstrated convincingly in some forum that is widely respected
Courts wouldn’t provide the forum
So it’s now the Arizona audit that will be the first ‘convincing demonstration’ of what we all know
I’d cut slack to Carlson and any other journalist to “report the news” on the stolen election issue and not get out in front of the story with their opinion. Different journalists will draw different lines on that distinction. There are news reporters and there are opinion commentators and everything in between, and the roles shift from issue to issue.
But – on the stolen election – for news reportage – it ain’t news til it’s news
Soon it will be
a better phrasing:
‘I’d cut slack to Carlson and any other journalist TO WAIT TO “report the news” on the stolen election …’
.. meaning wait to report until the steal is clearly shown in a respected and accepted forum
… an exhaustive audit such as Arizona’s would be such a forum
Soooo true
The problem is…….you can’t do anything about the IC now, it’s too late.
An honest politician (say a President) couldn’t even dismantle the IC because as soon as a dismantling is announced, there will be false flag op after false flag op of terror activity on US soil. All thanks to this “honest president who is dismantling our front line defences.” You get the picture.
I’d say you would need at least 2 terms with an army of patriots who know how DC works to even make a dent in the criminal enterprise that is the US IC.
The US socio economic system has become the bastard child of two of the most nefarious models of the last century Fascism and Marxism. I believe it’s the Fascist model which dominates with its strong regard for it’s crony capitalist means. Marxism is the ideology though. There’s an old adage “politics make strange bedfellows.” Well this is about as odd as it gets.
If you want more clarity I suggest you look no further than China. Hmm they are essentially a Communist regime but have satisfied the requirements to be Fascists too. Look at their corporations and industry. Not sure how important it is to make the distinction? I reckon it’s good to understand the enemy. Whatever the answer we are heading down a dystopian path toward totalitarian control.
Don’t want to black pill or depress anyone. Sometimes the odds see insurmountable I know. But that’s also got a lot to do with how they want you to feel. They want us to feel isolated and hopeless. And you know what to do or what to think when they push a narrative…..do the opposite. It’s good to see people fighting back. It’s good to see Trump back taking shots at them.
Fraud will be proven. They are looking at the layout if voter demographics. For instance you don’t have to drive to far to realize your ballot is different from your friend’s who lives 5 miles away (dependent on local candidates). Being able to break this down gives a truer sense of the numbers and who cast the vote. If proven I suspect the right will be plenty pissed and have a good excuse for it. The truth has got to be sensible and explainable to brainwashed sheep. You know Trump has really started to accelerate and I promise this isn’t accidental. This is going to be an interesting couple of months.
They just messed up their election steal in NYC Mayor race and had to retract it, didn’t get the steal right the first time or something:
NYC Mayoral Race Devolves into Chaos After Board of Elections Retracts Vote Totals Due to a “Discrepancy”
Yes, they scanned “Test Ballots” according to their excuse. Test ballots….give me a break.
Why there that many test ballots to begin with? Why on the floor when starting to count real ballots? Why? Because it’s all BS.
Just another example that indicates fraud but will be ignored….just like the MSM is ignoring the fact that the political hack out of NY is not pursuing the case against Trump……now that the story has run its course and all political equity has been used up.
The eye of sauron,
maybe has ” 5 i’s ” ?
i.e.
via apparently unadmitted backdoors in its curious political / media statement,
the us intelligence can spy on us citizens
via coordination with partners or contractor (overseas, i’s etc.).
(with its supposed intelligent data gathering combined with twists and spins to untold ‘make a crime’ on any person(s))
To whom would a department of mis-information, be honestly forthcoming…?
I do not know.
Do they know?
Whom is ‘they’?
p.s.
(canadian that got arrested for being in church, helping people)
Pastor Pawlowski spoke on frankspeech.com with Brannon Hawse,
is traveling the U.S.
and ringing the warning bell of tyranny on the forefront.
[ he has seen it before,
in Poland (germany) ]
Canada (Trudeau) does not follow its countries constitution – unless it favors his agenda (tilted by tyrannist$).
[ there currently are, untold, but practiced, double standards in adjudicating laws, even worse than in the U.S., so far… ]:
Favored?: elites (elected or appointed, wine and dine), chinese (fly planes in canada), muslims (no mosques were closed during pandemic, but churches and synagogues were..)
Not favored and persecuted?: christians, or anyone disobeying pandemic guidelines (not laws).
2020 speech in Calgary:
There is an opportunity for Learning from the past (and current)
to help to make for genuine better tomorrows.
Love thy neighbors
The Judge Collyer 99-page judicial finding. 30% redacted. Likely tens of thousands of unauthorized, illegal searches.
Maxine Waters opened her trap, claiming President Obama had created the most powerful database ever.
Shipwreckedcrew, a former 22-year Federal prosecutor, said AG Eric Holder politicized the DOJ, hiring exclusively far-Left zealots (my term). He himself saw the writing on the wall, departed, and hung a shingle w his pension intact.
The NSA uses ‘Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon’ to spy on Americans.
I.e., Tucker Carlson’s Acountant’s, mechanic’s brother’s, barber’s, babysitter’s husband has a green card; which makes him a foreigner. Hence it is totally legit. ?
Interesting indeed Sundance. And some very spot-on analysis.
And for those of you who can’t see the forest through the trees in SD’s analysis, I’ll give you the “For Dummies” version:
The fact that the NSA even responded is the issue- why? Many people say the government is watching them but this time they had to respond and they had to respond at 8pm. And, they never denied it. They just admitted they are spying on Tucker.
I think it is important for Sundance to highlight and comment on what is seen on Tucker Carlson, Carlson has a major platform that talks about the big issues facing the GOP (not necessarily just conservatives and/or MAGA). It really aggregates most the stories that are talked about in lower circulation media tiers and delivers them with emphasis in a place that’s easy for someone to tune into. I’m sure that the show is subject to editorial decisions and guidelines restricting what he can talk about. Same for Dan Bongino on his new show. I generally only watch posted Carlson clips, and haven’t seen Bongino’s new show.
I stopped watching FOX the moment they pulled Judge Napolitano off air for stating that 5 Eyes intel assets had been used in SpyGate, and came back on after break having Shep Smith declare some smug retraction. After that suspension, Judge Nap didn’t go off the script FOX gave him and had what you might call an attitude adjustment. For me, having followed Spygate so closely, that broke my trust.
I’ve said this before but John McAfee put a stupid virtual card trick on Twitter (yes I still fell for the trick even though the cards were digital) and explained how it worked. There were two major observations. McAfee said “wake the eff up” and ask why certain people show you certain things. What is the motivation and the payout for them? Second, people actually argued with McAfee that they saw their card, even though they could rewind the video and watch the trick again. That second part is actually scary, because you have to think that people are so conditioned to accept the trick or the lie that they irrationally and emotionally reject any attempts to show them, even with evidence, that they have been tricked.
I think the motivations for Carlson, Bongino, Sundance, and other political news commentators are complex. Go watch the Ben Shapiro interview of Tucker Carlson (showed up for Shapiro, stayed for Klavan [on culture]), he tells you he is part of the social elite and what his motivations are. I think Bongino is an earnest patriot, but he obviously has some loyalty to the Secret Service and I think deflects on negative overage of the agency even though he might know or strongly suspect the SSAs involvement in covering up Lord knows what. In a sense it’s like arguing with Andy McCarthy about the DOJ. I think we all have blind sides for the things we are a part of and have an investment in.
Bottom line, you’re going to have to assess your sources of commentary, like Sundance, that continuously give you verifiable information or info that comports with a measurable outcome. I look at multiple news aggregators that are conservative, and some I mostly trust to digest things and get me the important stories. Sundance stands alone in that why there might not be quantity, Sundance delivers in a deeper analysis.
Nice explanation, JC, thanks
Yeah I describe Sundance as an analyst to others, that seems to be one of his main attributes
I’ve got a couple nephews who get excited about some of the more radical and speculative shouters but when I send them a Treehouse article I tell them “this guy Sundance is careful and doesn’t get out over his skis, you can bank on what he says; he’s solid, not fringe”
The fact that the nsa responded, at all, regardless of it being about t. carlson, via twitter.
This entire incident, the totality of the responses, and what is said in them is stunning and very revealing.
Victims or volunteers? Note the dates
LIFELOG DEAD | Military.comhttps://external-content.duckduckgo.com/ip3/www.military.com.icohttps://www.military.com/defensetech/2004/02/04/lifelog-dead
LIFELOG DEAD. 4 Feb 2004. The Pentagon has pulled the plug on LifeLog, its stunningly ambitious effort to build a database tracking a person’s entire existence.Run by Darpa, the Defense department
Facebook is a social networking service launched as TheFacebook on February 4, 2004.
Wow that open my eyes never thought they were that far ahead. Do I think they cancelled it NO not the deep state. Their Daddy Satan want to be God. How to achieve that better but to kill off those that resist you.
Victims or volunteers? Note the dates.
LIFELOG DEAD. 4 Feb 2004. The Pentagon has pulled the plug on LifeLog, its stunningly ambitious effort to build a database tracking a person’s entire existence.Run by Darpa, the Defense department
Facebook is a social networking service launched as TheFacebook on February 4, 2004.
Here’s where my mind goes. Given the tools the NSA has in their belt, how does one snitch on them? I was trying to imagine what route I would take to contact him? Clandestine meeting? Burner phones? How?
The initial contact would be the hardest. Writing a letter snail mail? It would have to be a very convincing letter with some proof and a means of confidential reply. Of course, we’re talking about the nsa. If they don’t know how to be clandestine, who does?
If you worked for NSA you would know their methods and how to circumvent them, I suppose.
You can’t. If you work in the NSA you work on a team doing a specific thing, with access only to the data needed by the team.
Every access to every piece of data is meticulously logged. As I said above that access is tightly controlled. This is all inside the NSA.
If someone is looking into anyone and it gets out, my bet is the “whistleblower” info came from an NSA “customer” with access through the CSS.
Yeah, like how did Snowden know Greenwald could be trusted?
And why go to the guy getting surveilled?
I have always assumed that the NSA captures everybody’s emails. And then runs them through some sort of algorithm.
“Tucker Carlson has never been an intelligence target of the agency.”
Rather, he was/is a target of intimidation for political purposes, illegally using the resources of a secretive federal agency.
Socialism Democrat and Big Tech and porpaganda news medias i wonder where they came from and why hate so much American?
All about the ratings and the Benjamins
Fox is only giving Tucker a little rope to pull us back in. Tucker is for Tucker only
DO NOT BUY INTO FOX IF YOU WANT TO WATCH tucker you can on You Tube
Obama weaponized the NSA
“why does the FBI need access to the NSA database in order to conduct surveillance domestically? ”
Someone just stepped on their own yang, didn’t they? Our neo-Gestapo needs to be reined in. Why does the CIA not have a budget but has unlimited spending power? Why is the CIA involved in ANY domestic issue? At what point do each of us need to decide whether we want to have a free USA or assume the position of the pre-80s USSR? When, exactly, did the NSA (by virtue of its existence) have the “right” to access all of our communications without a warrant? It is time for each and every member of Congress to submit themselves and their families to the kinds of “investigation” that is being undertaken by the IC Gestapo–full financial disclosure, true values of net worth (not these $50000-500000 range sliders), communications with any lobby groups/corporations seeking political influence. Someone stated a few years back that every member of Congress needed to wear NASCAR-like suits to let the American electorate know to whom they are indebted. It is time to make that law and violation of that code should include removal from office, confiscation of wealth and imprisonment.
The NSA is not only a politicized arm of the IC, it’s grossly incompetent. The CCP has flooded our country with spies and have also released a deadly manufactured virus on our people. They are like Sargent Schultz “what I know nothing “. Given this I would say they are co-conspirators.
Not allowing just anyone not on their approved list is also a big tell as well.
The NSA can issue a statement like that and get away with it because of the way it is structured.
Let me put it this way:
The NSA is like a giant grocery supermarket that imports goods from every corner of the planet and beyond, including the USA.
AND IT DOESN’T SELL ANYTHING!
For selling the goods, it wholy owns a subsidiary that only has one takeout window. And only for very exclusive customers. That subsidiary has a name that is not well known for good reason. It’s called the CSS short for CENTRAL SECURITY SERVICE.
So, if you go around saying “I got these apples from the NSA” they will say “we don’t sell apples” and it is “technically true”…..
Very clever, and it’s all about deniability.
So maybe Tucker should counter with a live interview with registered whistleblower Dennis Montgomery and let him speak to the American public about the Hammer Program?
Or better yet maybe Tucker should ask the FIB where are those 47 hard drives that DM turned into them back in 2015 when he said this…….
“I produced 600 million pages. If you printed out each page it would be thirty miles high stacked one on top of another. The information is very sensitive information. They collected google searches, credit cards, phone retcords, images, pictures, anything and everything, and they did it for one reason: LEVERAGE. They didn’t know when, but they knew sooner or later they would need that information to use for leverage against a person … The amount of information is mind-boggling, and I gave all of that to FBI Director Comey’s office.”
IMO Tucker has a huge opening and opportunity here and I hope he steps up and takes this “denial” head on.
NSA: And furthermore we promise we will never do it again!.
“With limited exceptions (i.e. an emergency) NSA may not target a US citizen without a court order that explicitly authorizes the targeting.”
Clearly, they have a court order with Tucker’s name on it. Where did it come from? Why? Who asked for the court order.?
Ah but who does the IC work for? They take their orders from groups like the CFR. Who does the CFR work for? The Fed?Who does the Fed work for?
Carlson looks like he is being put into a position to have his show pulled. Like him, or not, they want him to look like Alex Jones. When is Hannity’s turn?
And now with the NY mayor race becoming another fraud, who really in America trusts these idiots anymore?
They are obsessed with cheating. It’s in their blood like a rabbit dog!
They appear to have corrupted virtually EVERY agency in every branch of government to the point that the majority of Americans no longer trust any words from any agency within DC.
What Tucker Carlson is or isn’t means absolutely nothing. What matters is Tucker Carlson has been targeted by NSA and the same can happen to any of us.
I thank Tucker Carlson for making us aware and sharing his experience he is having with NSA. People getting petty about Carlson is for another day, time and place.
And remember this quote from Maxine Waters back in 2013?
“The president has put in place an organization that contains the kind of database that no one has ever seen before in life. That’s going to be very, very powerful. That database will have information about everything on every individual in ways that it’s never been done before.”
So ask yourself, how does one get information on every individual if there is no spying?
Just more common sense questions!
Spying and buying. They built in the denial with how they purchase data from FB, Twitter, YT, Google, Etc.
The NSA collects data. And then they use the purchased data as a ruse to cover for their spying. They already have the info in a system they can search and now they “buy” cover.
The NSA Director (Admiral Mike Rogers) published a report stating those FBI contractors were running unauthorized queries against the political enemies of the Democrat Party. Obama cabinet members unmasked those mentioned in the transcripts and redacted names US-Person1, etc. were named.
That is all public knowledge. I look forward to Sundance’s detailed reports. The NSA has collected data for decades but lacked the computing power to properly analyze it and connect the dots. Big tech also has a wealth of data and they are better at accessing it and using it. They have been helping the NSA and the NSA likely has access to their data as well. At the same time, big tech has been helping the CCP to do the same on their own citizens. God help us when quantum computing comes of age.
Tucker, agitprop.
What is obviously missing? “The NSA did not collect Tucker Carlson’s electronic communications.”
So, what can we now surmise?
Amazing what 6 simple sentences in an NSA tweet will reveal.
“It wasn’t incidental”
Why not? It easily could be via the allowed two-step from the actual FISA target and, in the end, it doesn’t make a difference as far as results are concerned anyway.
The people using the sophistry and chicanery e.g. these carefully crafted evasive statements by NSA, are so hubristic, they think they are fooling people but they actually reveal themselves.
The greater DC area has a relatively high literacy rate, there are a lot of people skilled in “language arts” practicing this there.
The image of Sauron’s eye over DC nails it.
Well, golly dinga danga do do do. They just, aw golly, just can’t fathom us. ha ha, common folk ever understanding their sophisticated language. Hee, haw, shuckity shucks….we just be too stoopid.
Of course, there is no possible way that the NSA could have concluded an investigation in 24 hours into whether Carlson was illegally targeted by NSA employees or contractors. It suffices to say that no investigation was done.
In conclusion, Mr. Carlson’s allegations stand unrefuted.