Today at 1pm local / 4:00pm Eastern, the Arizona Senate is holding a public hearing to accept testimony from the groups and individuals currently undertaking the Maricopa County ballot audit of the 2020 election.
The auditors are expected to deliver testimony and answer questions raised about what the audit has discovered so far. The event is being livestreamed due to public interest. Start time approximately 4:00pm Eastern:
Arizona Senate Livestream Link – Alternate Livestream Feed – Alternate Livestream #2
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I know this whole audit process is frustrating for a lot of folks… but things are gonna get rreeaallllly entertaining over the next few weeks. Looking forward to not seeing the BoS attend this hearing.
Yes. A lot of mischief is afoot. What has been described so far would take an enormous amount of planning.
Obama and his henchmen must have begun planning this year’s ago. Layers…and layers…and layers of corruption.
DD
Suspect the plan to never relinquish power again was hatched in the traitor Obama’s first term, almost had a lock on it until TRUMP stepped in their path.
Obama is pure evil. His eyes…his body language all narcissistic.
Any American that likes this man…and there are a lot who do…are sick individuals that also embrace that level of evil.
DD
And his little wife, too!
Nothing irritates me more than to see Michelle on magazines at checkout line.
Melania was such a gem.
DD
Michelle did keep armies of photoshoppers employed . . .
muh package
You misspelled “Linebacker”.
I turn those mags backwards in the bin.
My thanks. Good idea.
Yes, I’ve felt that way myself. However, when I once found a mag that deigned to place Melania and family on their cover (after the November election…. as a consolation, I presume) somebody had turned over the front cover. Didn’t feel good to see that.
As a rule, I never repeat behavior I detest, EXCEPT WHEN it constructively serves to defeat our political adversaries in some tactical way.
amen to that this has been going on sence old man bush was president.
they could also be deluded as God can send a delusion if people refuse the truth He gives them over for a time. I can’t understand it because I cannot stand the site of Obama and I feel it’s because he is evil. I never watched him after he won and cannot even stand his voice. And he sat down with a church leader Rick Warren and that man Obama lied in church!
So I cannot understand why some highly educated people and especially Christians that like Obama. I cannot.
It will be very interesting to see who all was involved in corruption.Obama? Biden? Harris?
Going to need a couple of volumes. 99% of the UniParty was in on the fraud and corruption.
old man Bush,Bush jr,Both hillary & bill,obama & his wife,biden & harris,nancy.p- chuck S, Soros,bill gates,and also people in Hollywood actors,singers,producers,wrighters,people who own big companys in all areas of the usa,and people in the same places all across the globe.thats how deep it is.
I only hope that when the Communists take over, those on this list are the first to visit the gulags—on a permanent basis!
Don’t forget Zuckerberg and the other tech dictators.
Yes
Serious work on the planning and preparation for the Big 2020 Steal might have gone back to as early as December, 2016 after Trump won in November, 2016.
For all we know, the tools and techniques needed to perpetrate industrial scale vote fraud were given a test in the 2018 mid-terms, with lessons learned then applied as needed for the 2020 election cycle.
It has all gone according to plan, until this month. The Arizona forensic audit is the first serious bump in the road for the Democrat’s Big Steal project. At this point, it is not at all certain how the Arizona audit and its aftermath will turn out as far as putting the Big 2020 Steal on ice.
It’s also possible that a pilot program was implemented for the Democratic primary. Biden lost Iowa, NH, & CO (?) badly, then won in SC and in stunning fashion virtually swept the rest of the states. Yes, other candidates were bribed to get out of the race but some of the Biden wins occurred where Bernie was up significantly in the polls. That smells of election fraud.
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I suspect they had realized that with voting machines an election can be pre-arranged and fixed months in advance. Sure beats the farce of pretending to find votes in a car trunk (the Al Franken method).
The huge dump of mail-in ballots was not the crime, it was the cover-up of the crime.
But in the Iowa Caucus, they immediately found the flaw in pre-setting the winner. Kamala had been all set up to win, and then she dropped out (!). For her protection, they didn’t warn her the vote had been rigged in her favor. So after weeks of haggling and confusion, Buttigieg got the booby prize.
I think we see now why Biden and Kamala barely ever bothered to go out and campaign in the 2020 election. Biden knew the fix was in – he bragged about the extensive voter fraud that had been arranged. So Sleepy and Kameltoe could only hurt their cause with a slip of the tongue.
Biden also stated “I don’t need your votes.” Because, no, he didn’t.
Yes, it’s a real possibility this happened. In fact, it’s more than a possibility given how far we’ve seen the Democrats will go in their strategic planning for gaining and keeping power in America.
Has anyone compiled a list of where every electronic voting system is being used, how long it has been used in that location, and who the vendor is or was at the time any election was held within the last four years?
Here’s another thought about the Democrat’s testing of how well automation assisted stealing of an election can be done successfully.
Biden and Harris were the two weakest candidates any party ever ran for president and VP. And yet they ‘won’ with a fairly large margin in terms of total millions of votes ‘counted.’
If vote theft on such a grand scale can put a Biden-Harris team in office at the highest levels of government, it can put anyone in office anywhere, any time.
I feel you sorely miss the point by using the single term “Democrat”.
IMO it is blatantly obvious that this goes well beyond a single Party.
If you follow #Sundance closely, you see how he points out that everything appears to be controlled by the IC (Intelligence Community).
With their total access to all Electronics Communications via the Raw Data of the #NSA Database, they would have all the Major Player’s “skeletons in the closet” – thus giving them total control of the Institutions leading to this …
https://threader.app/thread/1387911271652147201
Yes, the FBI, the DOJ as a whole, the Intelligence Community — now appears the military is going down (or has already traveled) to anti-American insanity. All three branches of the Federal government…more, more, more! What a frightening state of affairs.
Well ,when they’re all in on it ,it makes it more of a scam…
Bernie is nothing more than a gold digger. How anyone, no matter how young, could have failed to see that he’s a con man, I’ll never know.
0bama used these methods in 2012 to steal from the pathetic Romney.
Who stole Ryan’s divorce proceeding papers for Obama in Chicago? Who was behind it?
With so many layers of government employees involved many with husbands, sons, fathers and brothers in federal, state and local law enforcement the corruption had to leaking out of every seam! Calling Merrick Garland and Chris Wray? Calling the Arizona DPS Criminal Investigation Division? Calling the Arizona Attorney General? Where are you!!!
This same system was used to elect all communist in the midterms
they have all facts and eveadence.all ready just have to show america what they did and how they did it so it doesnt happen again.trust me there going down.
I think the planning started before 2016, by then Soros-backed secretary’s of state, DA’s, and Sherrifs were already getting installed. Then in 2018 it seemed like the ballot harvesting kicked in big time to get the Congressional seats. Then 2020, ballot harvesting was illegal most places so they had Zuckerberg take over elections in the key cities and pumped up every means of fraud they had. It almost wasn’t enough!
Each election has given them more control. If we don’t fix 2020, we will live in “interesting” times.
Right now, leftists are enjoying the events as their guys are winning and might implement policy they like. They don’t understand that once enough control is taken and there is no way to vote the globalists out, policies they don’t like will roll i. And there will be no stopping it. We’ll all be in the gulags or labor camps together.
I would say it started here as soon after “they” saw how successful dominion was is Venezuela. Many elections ago
What is truly amazing to me is that everyone involved has kept their mouths shut.
Can’t wait for the first birdie to sing, then it’ll be deafening.
Only if they throw their asses in jail. If not why would anyone sing. All they have to do is play STUPID and the Fake News will cover for them.
And our corrupt FBI will not investigate, and our equally corrupt DOJ would not prosecute.
And, they’ll be Epsteined if they do sing.
Everyone was surprised at Epstein’s suicide but no one was more surprised than Epstein himself!
“It was a perfect storm” LOL
not just the FBI BUT THE CIA ALSO.WE SHOULDNT EVEN HAVE A CIA TO BEGIN WITH
All it will take is a little vigilante Justice. They will sing as if their life depended on it, because it will. These traitors want to act like the mafia then punish them like the mafia, not even the family dog is left alive. We have already seen the complete corruption of the courts, DOJ and FBI.
Find the weakest link in AZ and GA and provide them with a helicopter ride.
there all ready on to that they know that they will try and use the media,also there on to joes so cwlled mishabs.its so when they get cought he can clam to be not right in the head.but to tell you the truth.its not going to save biden nor anyone in the senate to claim any medical condition.
Bugs….I have thought the same thing so many times. Quite incredible that they were able to hide this enormous lie for so long…so well.
The media and big tech are the #1 enemy of the American people as they relentlessly hide any truth.
Sites like CTH and CFP continue to grow as people stray from the MSM. I’m amazed at how many guys at work(Ontario) have very solid handle on the COVID lie.
DD
you are so right on the media going to take old medis off the network all new media for news netwoek one this is done.
And completely indicative of their lack of integrity.
they are more scared of the Democrats than they are of the DoJ.
The singing won’t happen. Just like there’s no whistle blowing in justice or fbi. Phillip Haney, Seth Rich.
I think a LOT of people have no idea that there was fraud. Remember, in most cases we’re talking about low-level local bureaucrats with little to no technical knowledge of the systems they use. They can push a few buttons and feed ballots into the machines. If a Dominion “contractor” told them a thumb drive was for normal system admin and “totes legit”, they’d trust him implicitly. If they thought the Dominion employee actions somehow violated election integrity, they’d cover it up simply because it would expose the bureaucrats as incompetent. I would bet in more than a few of these cases that the locals have NO IDEA what was actually done with the votes.
Not everywhere. I think the fix was in and there are people who know what was done. But for something like this to work, you have to keep it small and compartmentalize it like the Intelligence community does. The problem is the “tell” signals are too strong. They all stopped counting (which is never done) at the same time, they all magically produced “just enough” votes for Biden to win outside the margin of mandatory recounts… but not really any more than the minimum he needed. And of course the ballot dumps were absurdly one-sided, 96-4% for Biden, that sort of thing. I could show the election night graphs to a 3rd grader and ask “What do you notice about this?” And I bet the average 3rd grader would point out that the graph goes “straight up” then continues. That profile only shows up in the fraud states…which means a machine algorithm was used.
If you listen to a lot of the bureaucrats, they’ll keep parroting that the numbers match. Never mind that those numbers can be edited after the fact to ensure that they match. A nontechnical person would have no clue.
GREAT points indeed.
Dan, you are right! I believe this goes back years, and each election cycle they have improved their theft techniques until “the big one” needed every dirty trick they’ve ever used in history. My theory (without proof) is that the 2016 was “supposed” to go to HRC which is why they were caught off guard and weren’t prepared for the Trump enthusiasm syndrome. That may be another reason why the venom and hatred for President Trump and his supporters was so intense.
They used every dirty trick they’ve ever used over the years, and I believe that even the Red states, such as the one I live in, had votes stolen from it and fraud occurred.
I also believe (again without proof), that CA is a Red state, but it’s probably one of the “experimental” states where no one expected it to be red, so it has been used as the prototype for others.
I’d like to see proof across all 50 states for the last 4 elections (down ticket as well as locals). I think people would be shocked that we’ve been living under illegitimate laws and officials who were not duly elected, right down to the local school board and city/county commissioners.
Just look at the arrogant bozo’s on the AZ BOS! They don’t answer to the people, do they? They answer to whomever got them elected! Then look at your own county, city and state. Who do they answer to?
and fwiw, i think they threw the 2016 one at the very end, possibly bc their betting positions needed certainty more than they needed Hillary, and that is why she sold the fireworks. And that the whole story of her devastated feelings that night is a lie, and that the Shake Shack detail was a bit of poetic work,that so alliterative detail no one can forget, I say was lies. They threw the election, and yes HRC was devastated but by election night she already knew what was asked of her. For some days or weeks before, the goal was just run up the popular vote to attack and weaken him with later, but not to win, because they wanted betting certainty. My private opinion.
Some states have been using computer counting machines for 20 years. The cheating has been going on a long time. I think the computers were programmed to make Hillary win. She was just such a bad candidate and Trump was just so good, that the algorithm was overcome. They learned from this. When again Biden was behind on November 3, they stopped the counting late at night, dumped votes to get him ahead and adjusted the algorithms accordingly to get and keep him ahead.
I think you right. The cheating has been going on a long time. And if we are honest, we understand that both sides have cut the “theft” deals ……for the good of the country, of course.
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Add to that that we also likely won the house and senate.
I personally believe Ozero was fraudulently elected BOTH times (2008 and 2012) to say nothing of Nanzi Piglosi and the rest of the Uniparty covering up that he was constitutionally ineligible to even hold the office….the cheating was a bit more low key as they only had to shift a few thousand here and there in key areas to get the result they wanted…they tried this again in 2016 not expecting the populist wave high tide that swept PDJT into office so then they really had to come up with contingencies…..even then w COVID and their intentional trashing of the US economy they were not prepared for the number of votes in the US population that were essentially fed up with both parties and saw a breath of fresh air where a political candidate actually worked to keep electioneering promises he had made.
You can bet they are well into planing for 2022 and 2024. I suggest they will leave the seven states they corrupted alone, and pick another 7 or more. Look for Soros SoSs in those states.
“Layers and layers…..” What is a smidgen times infinity?
they have been sence 2007
I wanna believe this but Charlie can only kick at Lucy’s football so many times. I can’t imagine the ruling class ever not getting away with it.
This is a sub hunt, not a Mach 3 dog fight.
Just keep listening to the sonar….
…and spin up the torpedoes.?
Operation Downfall: Apt metaphor. Invisible enemies, lurking in the deep.
Just as God rules this world, people will be held accountable for stealing and changing our votes!
Consider what it takes to be on the side of those cheating on our elections. I don’t believe that most of them are in it for the money. They must truly believe that they are righteous and that those who they are cheating (us) are evil. They need to justify in their own minds that what they are doing is right.
In 1856 there was extensive election cheating in the territory of Kansas. The stakes involved whether Kansas would be a free or a slave state. Due to the Kansas-Nebraska Act and the principle of popular sovereignty, large numbers of anti-slavery Northerners flooded into Kansas–a state that Southerners felt should be slave by right. The popular vote was overwhelmingly anti-slavery/free, but Southerners flooded the territory with pro-slavery Missourians, winning the vote. The outcome was so illigitimate that the House of Representatives refused to seat the representative from Kansas. Two competing governments arose from that fraudulent vote. The free-staters were led by Charles Robinson who wrote a book about his experiences. Arrested and charged with treason, he was eventually freed and the slave-state governor fled due to popular sentiments.
What saved the free-staters in Kansas? Sharps rifles and canon, as well as a ruckus in the Northeast against the fraudulent vote and the treatment of Robinson. Yes, the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution was what saved the free-state of Kansas, as well as fear by Democrat Buchanan (one of the worst presidents) that he would lose the upcoming election if peace were not restored in Kansas. The 2nd Amendment may save us too, but we need coordination much like that provided by Charles Robinson. He was no raving maniac. He was calm, long-suffering, but determined. We need a man like him today. Charles Robinson hated blood-thirsty people like John Brown. Truth be told, he thought Abraham Lincoln was too radical–a significant failure to understand the seriousness of Southern treason.
What is the moral of this story? Stay determined. Organize. Never cede a principled position. Make a ruckus and let your voice be heard. Let your Republican representatives know that you will never vote again unless they secure against election fraud. There can be no more electronic voting machines. There must be mechanisms in place to ensure election integrity. This, or the Republican Party shall be no more.
It’s called a ‘seared conscience’. A charred burnt hardened sense of what is right or wrong. In other words, they are EVIL.
Thanks for the history.
Here’s another one to take a good hard look at. Just sayin’
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_United_States_presidential_election
“Truman was widely considered to be the underdog in the race, and virtually every prediction (with or without public opinion polls) indicated that Truman would be defeated by Dewey…”
Just out from the Biden Administration’s Ministry of Truth.
George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and James Madison did not agree on everything, but one thing they very strongly agreed on was that for the good of the country, America must have fraudulent elections, and even more importantly must have fraudulent elections that can never be challenged.
If only the district attorney or state AG had any interest in all of this.
I fell the Attorney General’s in these states do not get involved because it would stop all the lawyers in the states from making a fortune off of the legal proceedings.
The lawyers get filthy rich off all this shyte going on right now.
It is a big club and the citizens have no rights, but the lawyers still get paid.
The third branch of our government still fleecing the tax payers.
The only solution is to stop funding them and go extra-judicial. Our founding fathers did this and I don’t doubt it was an uncomfortable decision. Every screech of ‘lawsuit’ funds the Communist war chest and huge amounts of taxpayer sweat is diverted to specific humans and their political agendas in the name of ‘law and order’. I’m not distracted at all by the unanimous SCOTUS decision on a narrow application of red flag laws at all. Their silence, and the silence of the judiciary in general, except when persecuting patriots, tells me everything I need to know about those humans.
Or alternatively, they are Soros corrupted and/or DS plants.
There are too many people at too many levels of government who desperately need people to believe the fiction that we have free and fair elections in this country. Discovery of massive, well-planned, fraud and the associated cover-up could collapse our entire system. Nobody at any level of government has any appetite for this because that’s the moment people find out they do not live in a democracy…which will be upsetting to many.
Well said.
Remember Sidney Powell. This is an illusion of a Republic
It is almost as if the County has thrown down the gauntlet, playing a game of legal chicken. ‘Go on, send round your Sergeant at Arms. We dare you’
Mind you, with all the lawyers they are claimed to have that is probably not surprising. Lots of lawyer/hour/$ at stake here.
Arizona Senate has absolute control of the election in 2020 per the Constitution. Why they are putting up with this BS from anyone to include the Maricopa County Election Board is a mystery?
Why the Senate has not put the Board, the Sheriff and the AG in jail, takes more understanding than I have?
I agree. The President of the Senate should absolutely stomp on this insurrection being perpetuated in Maricopa county. They need to set an example of these people.
This is a bit of a game of chess, and Maricopa County is reliably making all of the wrong moves.
The State Senate is merely asking procedural questions of the public officials who were specifically duty-bound to ensure that the election was “free and fair.” They are 100% entitled to receive credible answers, and any official who was not “guilty-as-hell” would of course rush to clear his name. The Senate is not (yet … heh…) accusing any individual of
wrongdoinga Felony crime. They are simply asking direct questions about what actually happened on these people’s watch. Questions that both they and every citizenof the State of Arizonaof America are fully entitled to get answers to. Questions that these officials are specifically tasked to be able to immediately answer, because “this was and is their job, as well as their legal duty.”I liked your comment a lot and please do not think I have slighted you in any way.
The have ignored subpoenas that would have landed any regular citizen in jail.
They have destroyed evidence under subpoena just like Hillary did.
I feel like we have flew past the procedural time, and we are at the time that the curb stomping yo begin.
You are being summed by a group, you report to. But, instead, you blow them off. Has the Election Board been told, we will take care of you. Who in AZ is in a position to protect the Election Board?
Always forgotten is the fact that THREATS matter. Isn’t Hillary’s list of dead bodies exceeding 85 by now.? Like Sundance said, there is trillions at stake, and these are vicious, evil people on the other side.
Then their families are fair game….target them and all this changes.
Like you I am very tired of playing by their rules. dirty is mine as I learned it from them and their lies will hopefully be the end of them.
Just saw Dick Morris and Bob Sellers get into it on NewsMax about the Arizona Audit.
And? What was said?
Sellers was probably upset that Jeff Flake wasn’t on defending the MCB and AZ SOS’ office.
If you were in the business of spying or control of high level assets what would you do?
Let’s suppose that the Arizona Senate members were selected by the same voting machines and that they represented some of your best assets in the state of Arizona. How would you move to protect them from exposure?
Would you use them to slow the election audit process even though technically they have absolute control of the process?
If you were such a corrupt or corruptible State Senator, you’d have taken steps to prevent a forensic audit from happening at all. Let alone for it to happen with people wearing color-coded T-shirts to help them be identified by the web-connected cameras that are being watched by the world.
They(The Senate) had to be seen, as doing something to placate the masses. But, the actual auditors appear to have a different point of view.
See the problem for the Senate. Auditors want real results and the Senate and friends do not. After all, they know, they were put into place by the voting machines.
What the letter should say the Senate sends the board and sheriff in Maricopa county.
We received your letter of insurrection today, and our response is below
1. First we find that you are obstructing the duties of legislative branch on elections in the State of Arizona.
2, We find you in contempt of a Senate Subpoena.
3. We also find that you have destroyed evidence that was under a Senate subpoena.
Please turn yourself in to the Sergeant of Arms of the Senate, or face a full scale swat team raid of your whole being broadcast OAN news network.
Raid of your homes
Does the Arizona “legislative” branch really have any “executive” branch LEO’s at its disposal, though? It seems like they really should not have SWATs.
Just a comment made off hand. I do believe they have a swat team.
I do not believe.
It should be well remembered that it is the Arizona State Government which is acting here by its own “plenary” authority. The State Senate has the unquestionable and undeniable right to satisfy itself – by whatever means it alone sees fit – that the laws which it enacted were, in fact, “faithfully executed” by the public officials whom it charged to do so. The Senate has the power to compel testimony – particularly among other state employees – and to issue subpoenas. It can command its Sergeant-at-Arms to round people up and compel them to appear. It has the power to declare anyone to be in contempt of itself, and this is also a felony offense.
ARS Title 16 includes penal provisions which declare “election fraud” to be at least a Class-5 Felony.
This is these criminals’ worst nightmare. This is the one thing that they assured themselves could never happen. A decent lawyer could stop or at least gum-up a lawsuit, but this is not a lawsuit. Perkins-Coie has no power here. This is an opponent they have no power to deny.
The Peoples House and Senate could wipe this shyte clean in 1 day by acting on this, so it never happens again.
Arrest them and place them solitary confinement with no bail. See how they like them apples
A game of chess sometimes takes longer than you might wish. But, when the final move is made, the King has no escape.
Kindly notice that, at this point in the chess game, the Senate is not directly accusing anyone of having committed a crime. It is simply asking questions about what happened, of the people who are specifically tasked for carrying out its laws in Maricopa County. These are exactly the right people to be asking, and they have no power nor position not to answer.
It goes without saying that these people know they are guilty-as-hell of a felony crime, and they know it. But chess tightens the noose around the King rather slowly. And, the very worst thing that these people could possibly be doing right now … is exactly what they’re doing. They’re going to slip up, and do it under oath. They’re going to be confronted with indisputable evidence of their crimes, frantically study the case that has been systematically built against them, and find that there is no way out.
Then, other States will be obliged to start doing the same thing. And so the dominoes will fall. We all owe the Arizona Senate a debt we can’t repay – no one else could be doing this right now.
I am totally in agreement on the debt we owe the Senate for performing their constitutional duties.
I am sick of the Republicans and their timid approach.
Stealing an election of President of the United States is not the time to be timid or play chess. 3D chess bullcrap is not gonna fly here. It is time to teach civic lessons to these communist traitors.
Now is the time of action, not deflection.
The have violated subpoenas already. My butt would be in jail right now. So should they.
I agree. When dealing with corruption in this magnitude, our ducks must certainly be lined up correctly. We have to lead this down a certain path, and have clear and convincing evidence that wrong was done. There is an emotional feeling to swoop in and arrest everyone involved, however, we cannot put the cart before the proverbial horse. We have to give these people enough rope to hang themselves. It will happen. They will make a mistake. The truth will come out. However, we must do this in an orderly, thought out, and clear manner. We must leave NO room for error. Our case must be ironclad.
They are in contempt of 2 subpoenas right now.
This is gonna turn into full blown mockery of the audit and then the audit is sunk.
we’ve been going down this road repeatedly since 2016 (at least). We have a mountain of evidence (maybe even a mountain range of evidence) to put these people away for a very long time. We should not need to make the mountain any higher. We have ‘gun’ at their heads and no one is willing to pull the trigger.
Exactly
It seems everytime we have the evidence, it starts with the be patient, do not organize, just sit back it will handled for you.
Don’t be lulled into this line of crap anymore.
We need to organize, Johnny, but we need to be patient too. Having an organization ready to act is an important tool to convince the ruling class that they must change. By all means, organize, but let that be a big stick supporting a soft voice. Let us organize, just as BLM and Antifa have organized. Let them fear us, but we will act judiciously. We are “The Sons of Liberty”. That is our organizational name. Form a company, but await orders.
And be aware that your company will probably include a paid government actor.
When Viola Liuzzo was murdered, one of the men in the car of murderers was an FBI informant.
Documents from that era show one out of every ten KKK members in the 1960s was a government informant? What if Wray isn’t lying… when he says that “white supremacists” are a threat. He doesn’t have to mention who is paying and scripting his actors
Amen Mike.
As they could in Georgia and elsewhere, but dominoes and reasons!
Could that ” election fraud” charge also be used to prosecute Soros, Zuckerberg and a few others ?
A judge just ended the Antrim County MI audit. He is saying an audit was already performed. He’s lying, a recount is not an audit. The evidence of fraud is overwhelming. But like Sundance says, there are no more checks and balances, the entire government is controlled by the Deep State IC.
It is beyond me when it is the state’s duty to audit why a judge can just override “we the people”. Elections belong to us not courts and corrupt judges and SOS.
They can not.
The only reason they getting away with their judicial tyranny is because we the people, the only owners of all 3 branches of government is because,
Wait for it
We are allowing it
What really bothers me is the fact that all those Patriots who voted for Trump in Michigan are sitting on their collective asses and doing nothing. WHY? Why are they allowing this. There should be a million people marching on the State Capitol. This is why we get beat all the time.
Has anyone from Michigan posted any first hand account on CTH? The one IT witness is running for an office, but are Michiganers doing anything else there?
Look at how passive Michiganders have been with that witch of a governor.
I know, I can’t believe they let her get away with what she is doing.
And all of us in DC? They need to know we are not happy with stolen elections and we need to make them uncomfortable. They think the Guard and nasty fences can keep the people from them, not if we REALLY want them they will be brought out.
Yes, nearly 20 yers ago 2 black men snipers put DC on it’s knees for months taking pot shots and killing, time for another who dunnit. To shake em up.
Esp when the highest court of the land won’t listen to the case.
Time for that judge to be removed by any means necessary. Send the message loud and clear
Yes, but the state laws of Michigan do not say that “only one” audit can be performed. Election records must be retained for a period of at least two years.
The most critical difference in Arizona is that “this is not a lawsuit.” This is the Arizona State Government, acting on its own plenary power and authority to satisfy itself – any way that it wishes to – that its laws were followed by state officials who were specifically tasked to do so. At 2PM it’s going to commence what ought to be a perfectly ordinary administrative hearing where it asks the responsible officials to explain what actually went on under their official tutelage. Questions – about procedure, not directly about peopole – which any honest official would have no reason at all to fear . . .
Mike you sound like you have strong background in legal aspect of this.
I respectfully, say the procedural time has ended. We the people have attempted numerous times to go the judicial route to no avail.
This is now the time for decorum and timidness to end.
They are in contempt of 2 subpoenas right now. Do not allow the liberal machine to make a mockery of this treasonous affair.
Lock their butts up. We are not frigging playing by their rules.
i think mike is right and the haste you are counseling would seize defeat from the jaws of victory
I think the trust the plan bullcrap is over.
No more.
Then, the people should surround his house, everyone take a cell and video the peaceful protest, and they should carry signs that read, “This judge has misapplied the meaning of the legal election word, ‘audit.'”
They should begin the process of removing him from the bench and make his name very public and put him under pressure to resign.
Play HARD BALL.
The judge is PRETENDING not to UNDERSTAND.
Amen, play the liberal games
Although it sounds like it can and will probably be appealed:
Elsenheimer indicated that he expects his ruling to be appealed, wishing Bailey, DePerno and the Attorney General’s office, which represented Benson, good luck with the case “going forward.”
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2021/05/18/judge-rules-against-legal-push-targeting-michigan-election/5149036001/?fbclid=IwAR1lCmhwP6cUGgbPI9XN52e0vuxcB3Yqca0x_bBje69vNYYx78zqEmMk-ro
Not only that, the fact that he decided that the MI SOS conducting an audit counts as “any citizen can request an audit” is pretty ridiculous and good grounds for appeal.
It is obvious that State Government Officials were not what the MI legislature had in mind when it said “any citizen”.
I knew that judge was a weasel/compromised when I listened to the zoom meeting they had last week. It was obvious how he was going to rule. Total weasel.
Right when Logan started to talk about his qualifications, they lost service. All others same or not showing it.
I’m afraid I can’t allow that, Dave.
After a question about “blue pens ?”
My live stream sounded like mystery science theater.
People talking over each other
The audio could have better , louder .
Today on Bannons War Room Patrick Odonnel author of “The Indespensbles” appeared
to give an account of those facinating heroes that ferried Washingtons army across the river in a raging snowstorm when others failed. They’re incomes destroyed by the British and friends shanghied to serve on Man Of Wars they had enough. This was the forerunner of the Navy. Soon all of us will be called upon to be Indispensables. The Conflict is coming to take our Nation back. The injustices we will be forced to endure are reaching the boiling point. The choice we all have to make: Indispensable or Shitbird?
We are “Sons of Liberty”
FOX screwed up the opening. Big surprise.
100 Percent Fed Up reports – Matt DePerno, the attorney for William Bailey, the plaintiff in the Antrim County election fraud case, was dealt a big blow today when Judge Elsenheimer squashed the lawsuit. DePerno has worked tirelessly to gather evidence of voter fraud. DePerno has uncovered multiple ways in which the election results could have been manipulated or compromised in the November 2020 election.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/05/breaking-breaking-video-antrim-co-mi-judge-makes-stunning-decision-voter-fraud-case/
DePerno’s judge was predisposed to dismiss the suit to avoid “chaos that would ensue” if EVERY citizen demanded their own audit.
And, though his arguments were sound, DePerno only managed to demonstrate how fraud COULD have occurred, but not how it DID occur. But, without access to ballots and voting machines, DePerno did all that was humanly possible.
Mark THIS one as a “W” for the bad guys.
What say you know, you PRICK CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS? The SYSTEM DOesn’ts work and you know it.
You only have to show security in an election is such that the outcome COULD have been changed NOT had been changed to invalidate an election…..that is why when you show a number of fraudulent votes in excess of the delta results you do not have to KNOW how the votes were reflected each candidate but that there is enough uncertainty that the election is no longer valid.
That’s laughable considering more than 5,000 votes were flipped from Trump to Biden and Antrim County had to change it’s initial reporting of 10,000 votes for Biden to 5,000 votes for Trump to the exact opposite. Fraud was proven right there. DePerno showed that it DID occur and how it occurred.
Oh this is a big surprise.
So what if AZ finds anything. Another POS judge will dismiss it for what ever reason they can pull out of their ass.
I am so sick and disgusted with every single aspect of the Just-us system. Legal folks ought to be real proud to be part of that profession.
Me personally, I have more respect for street walkers.
You are speaking truth
I started watching a little late. Why are there only two senators present? Are there others participating virtually?
The election systems, not supposed to be connected to the internet or any other network was connected to the sheriff’s office? What the?!?
Now they are saying “the routers just deliver data… they don’t keep it.” That’s not ALL that’s on a router. Routers contain routes! They contain ACLs and other permissioned forms of access (VPNS?!?!) configurations. With that in mind, what do you think they were hiding????
timestamps for all packets origination IP and MACs destination IP and MACs ERR on all the packets duplicate packets sent to replace corrupted packets etc.
I read somewhere that the Feds are threatening criminal charges against the auditors? Insane.
If so, then the state police “should” handle the fed interlopers.
Attorney Matthew DePerno of the Atrium County, Michigan election audit had his office broken into.
Also the Traverse City VFW hall where he was going to have a press conference on May 17th, 2021 called at the last minute and told him they would not allow the conference at the VFW venue due to “threats.”
Good thing General Patton and Brigadier General McAuliffe were not afraid of “threats” from the enemy!
Traverse City VFW Hall Phone# 231-946-7317
Woah! They have the database recovered! Oh crap lawsuits are about to fly!
Wowza!!! Deleted data recovered!!!!
You mean, they forgot the cloth?
Hillary would be horrified at their cleanliness
Their lack of cleanliness.
Yes thank you
I stepped out for a few minutes, is that what they said? Wow that would be awesome.
Yes.
The critical information they need is the percentage of scanned ballots sent to “adjudication” and the adjudication speed per ballot.
In their snarky written statement, the MCBoS sneered at the slow speed of the auditor’s manual ballot adjudication. But the auditors have actually set the benchmark speed for doing it right.
If during the election large numbers of ballots were sent to adjudication and the adjudication speed per ballot was higher than the auditor’s, then fraud is proven.
“verizon wireless cards in machine” – the county cant validate these werent in their machines, which by definition would make it connected to internet.
“deleted database directory” – we follow a very strict forensic system. there were 6 drives (2 for operating system in mirror config meaning anything changed would be reflected here; the other 4 drives were data drives, an in 1+ 0 configuration – volume can be mirrored and data redundancy) – county did not provide redundancy config to expert had to scan it all – and during this identified master file record (shows where file is loccated) – in this is shows clearly the database is deleted. HOWEVER “I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO RECOVER ALL OF THOSE DELETED FILES”
It sounds like the auditors were able to recover the deleted database.
This should be interesting.
yes ma’am. =] as in they don’t need to argue about anyone finding it or if it was deleted.
phase 2 – switched to calling the audit (false data uploaders – or a “sham process”)
I think they have deleted data in a county in Georgia, also. God, help all of these “white hat hackers” etc. that are working all over and every day.??
only breach of security was someone posing as a member of the press..
when he couldnt product credentials he was denied access. he later returned as a designated observer by the secretary of state’s office and allowed on floor to observe.
Yeah, the secretary of state seem’s like a real swell gal.
To summarize…
The auditors requested the routers and the logs. (these are not the hard drives)
The county said that it would be difficult.
Auditors: We can look at them, in place, so they don’t have to be moved.
County: We’ve already removed them, and replaced them at great expense to taxpayers. We’ll send them with everything else on the 21st.
Auditors on the 21st: Where are the routers and logs; they never arrived.
County: We never removed the routers from our system. You can look at them virtually.
Auditors: Fine, when can we start?
County: You can’t look at them virtually because it will expose citizen social security numbers, and police data.
Auditors: What? None of that should be on there, and if it is, then the routers would have had to have been connected to the internet which you claim they weren’t. Are you saying that the routers were illegally connected to the internet?
County: ‘crickets’
To me, these county excuses are cover for criminal activities. They sound like criminals with these lame excuses.
pedophiles have exploring hands with children that have no parents.
with the political establishment abandoning america – we have no “people speaking out for us anymore “.. so the hands will get grabby knowing their is NO PUNISHMENT, cause HUMANS DONT FIGHT GOVERNMENT these days.
1776 was your hint. it was the ONLY REASON why mankind did a hockstick shape growth of economy across all of mankind. It was AMERICA breaking free.
google hockeystick growth global trends. – see if they are to stupid to see the deciding factor was the birth of America.
Re: hockey stick growth – One of my favorite videos ever:
Thank you!!!
Ha… This sounds like dialogue from Hitchhiker’s Guide To The Galaxy…
You have to stick a fish in your ear to understand it.
Good one. You are a kindred spirit. 🙂
Recovered the deleted files, but not one word about who deleted the original files and when, to say nothing of why?
When is known. Just days before the machines were transferred to the auditors.
We can speculate as to why:
1. Hiding an incredibly high rate of adjudication.
2. Hiding the percentage of Biden only ballots in the late counting. (Being trucked in from Runbeck election services).
“Adverse consequences might result from disclosure
(such as compromising the investigation or endangering others). “
these guys are good.
everytime they explain a breach of the system(their audit systeM) – the example always ends with them catchign and preventing, or catching and identifying the person as authorized.
it means thy ARE WATCHING FOR PEOPLE trying to hack or disrupt their operation.
As they should and must! Most important to do that, than any other task that they have been brought in to accomplish. MUST have a clean room before beginning the audit. Great to hear this!
Bennett’s presence is troubling and here is why. According to Dr Frank this cheating has been going on for decades. Why would a Former AG want to be present for the previous cheating. This speaks volumes in terms of reliability.
Interesting, do you posit he’s like a Barr, a fixer? Nothing would surprise me these days. He did come across as very smooth and convincing during the 30 minutes or so I was watching.
All of these people were coming across as fixers. I suppose, when you have been in enough meetings this is something you learn to pick-up on. This was a staged event for the viewers(us).
FYI the lady talking is this lady, about that topic
the guy talking, is this guy
well done.
count to be completed by end of June barring interruptions.
Petersen wants to talk about future audits. This is the typical behavior of someone wanting to get past what is in front of them now without addressing the current problem. Promises of doing better in the future, but nothing about what has already been done.
Folks, this is coming across as a cover-up
Nothing wrong with learning how to defeat an adversary, the County.
That was the most professional non partisan hearing I have ever seen.
The most challenging part of self-governance in our Republic is Accountability.
Few people want to do it, to take the inevitable slings and arrows.
Dark Forces have no limits to their willingness to defy and obfuscate accountability.
We are seeing this in the Passive Aggressive nature of their resistance. It’s still aggression.
“We hope to be able to work with the BOS moving forward.” Are you kidding? Get the routers, get the passwords and get out of the way of the professional auditors.
The Senate Present is already addressing her concern about the previous, un-aduit, audit instead of saying what must we do to address this audit correctly now.
Folks, this is coming across as a cover-up. I have seen this type of behavior thousands of times.
They (BOS ET AL) have to be hiding something. Actually, I think a lot of somethings. I’ll conclude with a quote from one of my favorite movies, Body Heat.
I got a serious question for you: What the f*** are you doing? This is not sh** for you to be messin’ with. Are you ready to hear something? I want you to see if this sounds familiar: any time you try a decent crime, you got fifty ways you’re gonna f*** up. If you think of twenty-five of them, then you’re a genius… and you ain’t no genius…”
my favorite quote from that movie also!!
Wow, I am so impressed with President Fann. She’s handling this very professionally and seems to know that this audit is historic and will set a precedent for future election accountability. I hope her constituents appreciate her courage and integrity in tackling this audit. She’s clearly doing this so that all Arizonans can rest assured that their elections are secure – her motivations really do not appear partisan. It’s really quite sad that the Press, the SOS and the Maricopa County Board of ED do not have the same altruistic motivations.
FUBAR
This audit isn’t necessarily looking for fraud it is looking primarily at processes to make future elections more secure. . Accurate vote counts is paramount in determining if the processes are secure. If they find fraud, well then that would need to be looked into.
I don’t think we are going to see a lot of critical info coming out of these briefings until it is over. What these briefings are good for is squashing misinformation, or this case that the files have been recovered. But no info about why and by who deleted the files.
It is way too early for that. Keep the BOS shitting in their pants. They can’t figure out what they have found or haven’t found.
That hearing made the BOS look unhinged. The questions the senate had were reasonable and the BOS intentionally conflated the question about chain of custody. I understood from the senate’s letter they were referring to chain of custody between November 3 and the date of the audit request, not from date of request to delivery at the current venue. Also, the explanation of duplicate ballots and the missing corresponding original ballots was VERY telling. The BOS response to this in their letter was to dismiss the auditors as not knowing what they were doing. The demeanor of the questioners and respondents was very tempered. It really makes you wonder what’s being hidden.
My guess- The Dominion machines were using the county’s internet router.
The establishment controls all the federal apparatchiks. It’s up to the individual States to perform these audits and prosecute when election fraud has been found. Then there will be a long drawn out prosecutorial process. None of this can take place until the final audit results are written up. In some States it may have been machine driven fraud. In others mail in ballot harvesting. They hit on all fronts. The republic is in dire straits.
Is it true that Loyd Austin has ordered that all members of the Armed Forces who support the audit in Arizona, or anywhere else, be sent to Leavenworth for life unless it fills up and then they are to be shot?
sounded like a session of crossing the T’s and dotting the I’s to me. I get it’s a process. It’s a frustrating one for those of us that want and crave election justice, but I guess it has to play out this way.
I sure hope they double security on the ballots and machines. The liberal terrorists still have almost a week to act.
This is not going anywhere.
If FBI/DOJ can spy on a Presidential candidate and the successive Administration, and all who were two clicks away and nothing, nothing happens, you think a few hundred thousand fraudulent votes gonna meet the road?
I mean really?
I have seen this illegal behavior before, recognized the crazy substantiations for actions, saw no individuals were held accountable and realized there is a many tiered law enforcement.
Oh ok.
So no need to pay any attention or to fill these pages with doubt and negativity. You have been heard.
Now, let the rest of us follow and continue to see what is being done.
YES. The best activity guided by the best information to change our situation is job one. Our personally obtained wisdom is the best guide. Review, revise and continue.
I am not sure why you would bet against them after the frame up or Spygate with nobody held responsible and all of the facts available but not highlighted by the media. That was proven to have happened and there were no consequences . . . this has not even been proven yet (although all you need is to have watched election night/next morning and looked at the Benford analysis — that is all I needed)
i would imagine that if a massive fraud or corrupt dominion machines is revealed,the repub voters in arizona will come unhinged, forcing the authorities there to do something, thereby making your comment wrong.
Have you written your state legislature yet? Send them all a certified letter and demand a forensic audit. Make them deal with the actual letters, not just e-mail.
you do mean MILLIONS right? unless you have seriously bought into Slo Joe getting anywhere near 80M+ votes….the basement campaigner had far more votes than the Dimms’ Black Messiah
A government that is willing AND capable to push Russia, Russia, Russia for 3.5 years is capable of doing anything.
Except tell the truth. They are incapable of telling the truth on anything.
The Senate in Arizona was put into place by the Dominion Voting Machines. Would you derail the same company, that put you into office?
Would believe a Senator who said, I didn’t know I owned my office to a machine, and to those who controlled it?
Remember, Dr Frank. He estimates this has been going on for two decades.
Would I, as an Arizona Senator put in place by a fraudulent Dominion machine, insist that any forensic audit take place??
Question: Insist that any forensic audit take place??
Answer: Perhaps the better question would be. How many Arizona Citizens does it take, insisting that I investigate the Dominion machine fraud, before I insist on the investigation to avoid being removed from office by those same Arizona Citizens?
Answer: How many signatures does it take in Arizona to recall a Senator?
This might be why so many politicians are resisting audits. AZ’s legislature resisted very hard but the people wouldn’t let it go. Be a squeaky whee in your state! They should all feel the heat. It’s unlikely any election in the country was clean.
I get weary of complaints about the Big Bad Democrats. Just tune in to today’s Maricopa news to be reminded that it was Republicans who did Trump (and us) in.
MSM had had a heyday today touting turncoat Republicans in today’s stories about what an affront to Democracy the Maricopa audit is.
RINOs make me sick.
Communist make me sick.
And the Democrat party have gone full blown Marxist. Rinos are traitors.
Exactly.
Democrats are now pushing a federal elections bill, H.R. 1, which they claim will eliminate “racist” state laws.
This legislation sabotages state voter ID requirements.
Democrats claim voter ID laws are RACIST.
A RINO is no better than a DEMOCRAT.
MSM touting turncoat Republicans is 24/7, so what?
I just watched some MSM coverage on the Maricopa audit.
I had to laugh a the spin.
Turncoat Republicans are just afraid as the DEMS.
What could possibly go wrong?
This goes to prove the old adage: “Never trust a man with a crooked smile and a proclivity to sniff hair.”
Ok, I just made that up… but I think Biden is making it a thing.
Wow! Maricopa Country refused today’s meeting with the AZ Senate to work out the issues. They also emphatically stated they will no longer be even responding to the AZ Senate.
Then – at the meeting – the bombshell. Cyber Ninjas, the expert team contracted to do a lot of the technical work, announced that despite the main voting file being deleted, they have RECOVERED the deleted database.
This is looking to me like it is going to blow the whole election fraud situation wide-open, nationwide. As it should be!
I think some people are crapping their pants now. Someone may not be able to take it and ask for a deal.
I don’t think anyone is crapping in their pants. Many here love to project, yeah, THIS one will finish them off! Yet, it doesn’t happen. We all thought the Michigan case was ironclad. Nope, effing RINO judge dismissed the case leaving the Republicans in Michigan without recourse.
Maricopa Country IS NOT Michigan.
A turncoat Republican on MSM claimed the expert team contracted was incompetent because the file was never missing ..
“it’s was there all the time”, he said..
nutty people are funny.
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Does the current file he can access match up to what Mr. Cotten has recovered, is the $64,000 question . . .
Arizona Caught Hiding Key Evidence From Auditors… Board of Supervisors Doubles Down To Stop Election Audit
https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/arizona-caught-hiding-key-evidence-from-auditors-board-of-supervisors-doubles-down-to-stop-election-audit/
I have a hunch that there is a smoking gun in that Coliseum and everyone, from the County to the police to the National DNC and DOJ, wants to get it before the auditors get to it first…if they have not already found it.
Sounds like the ninjas beat them to it. They just keep acting more and more reckless. They are in deep trouble and they know it. They can’t control all 50 states and so this is just the tip of the iceberg. I expect lower level scapegoats will be offered up for sacrifice to save the high level players very soon.
Doesn’t this meet the standard for RICO?
That’s my reasoning, too.
Meanwhile, in Michigan, judge unsurprisingly tosses suit and says corrupt feminazi SOS can do whatever kind of fake audit she wants.
Michigan politicrats have all benefitted from the corruption and ballot manipulation for too long. No one with political power is going to allow a challenge to their system.
I really believe aside from an act of God (of which I always pray for and have faith in), there is no avenue for Michigan to audit or clean up their voting game.
The people of Michigan have had plenty to yell about. Haven’t heard that they’ve done so even while Gretchen puts the screws to them.
Maybe it suggests why Ohio STate has been whipping them for years now. No fight.
There has been fight, disobedience, and protests. But the politicrats and media have ignored it and punished it.
A lot of thr Michigan population is very conservative, but there is no representation or political consequences anymore. Politicians fixed that. If it takes politicians to end election fraud, then it just isn’t going to happen.