The New York lawsuit against the Trump administration -over disqualification of unlawful aliens in the 2020 election- was dismissed today by the Supreme Court [full pdf here] under procedural grounds.
However, that said, there is a clear indication where the outcome is likely to end-up once the court takes up the case next year.
The high court noted no harm currently exists because the census report hasn’t been delivered to congress to begin the representative apportionment.
The ruling was 6-3 on process, with justices Elena Kagan, Sonia Sotomayor and Stephen Breyer signing a dissent on the case. Justice Breyer wanted to fire a shot into the administration by outlining a liberal opinion/perspective of the issue:
…”The plain meaning of the governing statutes, decades of historical practice, and uniform interpretations from all three branches of Government demonstrate that aliens without lawful status cannot be excluded from the decennial census solely on account of that status,” Breyer wrote. “The Government’s effort to remove them from the apportionment base is unlawful, and I believe this Court should say so.”
Beyond the liberal argument this majority part should alarm everyone:
[…] “Everyone agrees by now that the Government cannot feasibly implement the memorandum by excluding the estimated 10.5 million aliens without lawful status,” the opinion later said. “Yet the only evidence speaking to the predicted change in apportionment unrealistically assumes that the President will exclude the entire undocumented population.” (read more)
In essence what the court is saying is they will not support unlawful aliens being excluded from the census and, as a consequence, congressional representation. It is just too early for them to decide because the harm has not been incurred.
This is an alarming position when cast against the recent SCOTUS decisions on 2020 election. Texas has no standing to file suit based on harm from election fraud, the voices of Texas voters are moot to the court; and now the same court is saying any unlawful alien residing in the United States should be granted a voice in government.
i got one last nerve and they’re stepping all over it
SCOTUS is hiding behind, and clinging to, each other’s robes so much that it’s hard to tell which one is which. Proactive or not, SCOTUS’ fingerprints will be all over whatever happens after 01/01/2021.
The Roberts court may find itself between a rock and a hard place with the most precedent setting cases in fifty years being brought before the court, and a part of me forgives them for fearing that the slightest misstep could trigger a revolution, but only a very small part.
The emerging consensus is that SCOTUS fears an uprising from a well organized, well financed leftist revolt more than it fears a rebellion by a rag tag bunch of conservative misfits, and this is the current principle by which justice is defined by the highest court in the land.
Should the court’s assumed interests prevail, and the worst is realized, it will be our patriotic duty to demonstrate to all how wrong-headed their premise was, and to remind the court specifically that ruling from fear never goes well.
See also: Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, tree of liberty, Republic.
See also: trends in firearm sales, 2020.
Indeed StripMall, didn’t the British refer to the Colonists as a bunch of rag tag misfits as well?. Good company to keep fellow deplorables.
The SCOTUS may be made irrelevant if the 60’s left radical wannabe’s have their way.
Precisely my sentiments yesterday. If SCOTUS renders itself impotent for fear of a Left revolt, our Second Amendment will be “We The People’s” paramount protection. POTUS stated yesterday, “I am very disappointed in the United States Supreme Court, and so is our great country!” SCOTUS is displaying moral cowardice rather than upholding our Constitution.
If the Left succeeds with the theft of this election, our Second Amendment is in serious jeopardy. Every instance in history where the government stripped away weapons from its citizens – it led to losses of freedom and liberty. If the Left has the power, this will surely be first on their agenda. We are at a serious precipice. Our founding fathers were smart. They learned from history and set up safeguards for our own protection. They wanted to ensure the citizens had the means to defend themselves from oppressive tyrants – whether foreign or domestic.
If we’ve learned nothing else in the past four years surely we have witnessed the infiltration of both domestic and foreign enemies in our government. With each passing day we see how close we are coming to losing our freedom/liberty.
So, if I follow your logic, Biden, should he be installed, will pack the court for show. After that it won’t matter.
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If they decide that Texas and its citizens don’t have standing but illegal aliens do, then there had *better* be a revolution. Pretty much every one of our governing institutions is broken now, and badly so. We cannot rely on the legal system anymore, and patriots are going to have to take things into their own, extra-legal hands if these institutions are to ever be restored.
seconded.
very true
Thats an EXCUSE, NOT a reason. The reason is because the Justices, at least Roberts and Breyer are compromised, corrupted by CCP, directly or through proxie.
They apperently like children, a little too much and in the wrong way,…devils work, for sure.
“Everyone agrees by now that the Government cannot feasibly implement the memorandum by excluding the estimated 10.5 million aliens without lawful status,” the opinion later said.
Everyone agrees? I don’t think so. That is a very presumptuous and typical elitist statement.
“cannot feasibly implement. . . “. Easy, those with US citizenship are counted, everybody else isn’t.
We are at war with the Globalist Cabal, both foreign and domestic. That pretty much covers everyone except us Les deplorables. Nothing good comes out of DC. Most there are infected with globalism. I’m old enough to remember when at least several SCOTUS members were railing on judicial activism. That is exactly what the SCOTUS is doing. Has Roberts hijacked the Court?
They mean “everyone on the Supreme Court agrees” they don’t give a crap about what We The People believe! Illegal aliens get precedence over every legal citizen in this country including Veterans! What a bunch of sorry arses we have on the Supreme Court including ACB, Kavanaugh and Gorsuch!
Remember who picked those three you mention.
I’m tired of seeing people constantly cary Trump’s water and keep excusing him for all the piss poor personnel picks he made in his 4 years. He’s done nothing but make the swamp deeper which says to me that either he’s in on this and playing his role as the “outsider” or he is just this bad at judging people and can’t tell that people are going to stab him in the back.
Nice rant but remember Trump does not choose his people if he did half of what you see would nont be there. Mitch the turtle and a few others decide who Trump can have remember he is serving only because Mitch could not kill the election he was all in on Hitlery.
Who should he have picked, armchair president?
Math is hard.. If math is hard they should not be on the SC.
Easy math; should the worst happen, and the Conmunist controlled Congress certify Biden as POTUS, there will be an Inaugeration ceremony on Jan 20, 2021.
EVERYBODY in the Government, will be there.
Top Military Brass, Congress, Dems and Rinos, New administration appointees, and of coarse SCOTUS.
And, within a year, assuming the doddering old fool hangs on, there will be a State of the Union address in Congress, with the SAME audience, or what I think of as a “target rich environment”.
Count me as the opposite of everyone.
I am still unhappy with lobbyists writing our law and not it seems they are also writting Supreme Court rulings. One has to wonder if the payoffs are the same.
Lobbyists SELL the proposed laws. They pay the influential Congress critters. Big Companies write the laws and give it to old rejected politicians called Lobbyists to push through with their knowledge of who’s vulnerable! Lots of dots to connect here! Notice where defeated, old, and re-usable pols end up? Yep, the big payday of Lobbyists. To think I used to think we elected the wrong people. Instead of Legislature being elected, we should elect Lobbyists. Boy was I ever wrong, they should be tried and hung. They are pushing America down the proverbial tubes. Wake up America!
You make a very good comment joebkonobi.
We are going to have to fix the mess our Country is in ourselves, with the leadership of President Trump.
We can not depend on any help from anyone in DC.
The census isn’t ‘excluding’ illegal aliens. It is refusing to use their number to apportion legislators, clearly spelled out in the constitution. The relevant statute is clear as well, that only citizens count and the status of being in the country used to be asked. This census they refused to allow the administration to ask and they have to do it by guesswork looking at other databases.
It is made particularly difficult to exclude the estimated 10.5 million aliens without lawful status when the Supreme Court stated just last year that a citizenship question on the census was Constitutional but not legal. And it was not legal because John Roberts intuited some reason for the citizenship question which was never part of any court proceedings. He just made it up that there was some ulterior motive for the citizenship question. The ulterior motive appears to be that of John Roberts and his effete, elitist snobs who think that they are better than the President and thumb their noses at deplorables who dare question their intellectual snobbery.
So, the effect is that we cannot ask the question that would elicit how many persons residing in a particular area are illegal aliens, a response that would allow easy congressional apportionment based on the number of U.S. citizens. And since we are not allowed to ask (and answer) the question of how many persons are illegal aliens, we cannot base apportionment on representation of U.S. persons. Frigging logic supported only by those who want to allow alien representation in Congress. That is NOT what the framers of the Constitution had in mind, or those who drafted the 14th Amendment declaring: “Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice-President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.”
A 6-3 ruling doesn’t sound like a case that was “dismissed.”
Under Breyer’s logic Texas can secede and still vote for President of the United States.
And why not the entire planet? These people need to be hit over the head.
In other words illegal immigrants have standing in the United States but neither Texas nor President Trump have standing according to the Supreme Court? Yes, I do see the law and legal logic to follow that decision! LOL
This is why Supreme Court justices should not be lawyers. The US Constitution is an easy document to understand. As such common men and women who are not lawyers are not burdened by seeing the legal Constitutional forest for the trees.
Remember, there is no Constitutional requirement that Supreme Court justices be lawyers; just as there is no Constitutional requirement that the Speaker of the House be a sitting member of the House of Representatives.
So, essentially, they’ll wait to see which way the wind blows. So much for the rule of law. Quite frankly, if they’re not concerned about following it, why should we be?
P.S. Someone should start looking at these judges’ bank accounts!
Better yet, someone needs to find out exactly what Obama has on John Roberts that he is using to blackmail the Court. The six ways to Sunday (those on the court who don’t kowtow to every Obama whim had better beware because they) forbode not only blackmail but massive smears (Kavanaugh should know, he’s already had the “pleasure” once) because Obama wants to rule the world and will do anything necessary to get what he wants!!
Its NOT Obama; he is just one of the many “tools in the toolbox”; its the CCP that is attacking our country, directly AND through their proxies, …these TOOLS of the enemy.
The CCP’s goals is to destroy America, because it is an inherent impediment to World Domination.
And, a healthy and large middle class, along with the rule of law, and the Constitution, are its pillars of strength, hence ALL are under attack, and have been for 30 years.
They are out to eleminate the Deplorables, because we are in the way. Its true, they are after US, and PDJT was just in their way.
Yes, the true enemy is the Middle Class. This is literally the ENEMY of the Communists.
They call the Middle Class, “the bourgeois.”
These are the people who have property and families.
If you have property and a family, you are an inherent obstacle to the Revolution because you have something to lose.
Read the Communist Manifesto. Marx says, “What do we want? We want the destruction of the family and the destruction of personal property.”
No one is allowed to own anything more than anyone else.
And when you have a family, you have a natural desire to give property to your children.
This is unfair, it causes privilege.
So, your family must be destroyed.
They have already mostly destroyed the families in the black community.
Now they want to destroy all of them.
This is at the root of the push for homosexuality and transgenderism.
It’s not about equal rights. It’s about communism.
YES!!! And that is one of the main points of the COVID “lockdowns”…the destruction of small, independent middle class businesses! All of the “Big Box” stores have been deemed “essential” and Amazon, Wal-Mart, Costco, et al are achieving record profits because people are being forced to shop there. And if all the small businesses go under, then the government and a handful of multi-national corporations control the supply chain for ALL of our food, all of our medications, all of our basic necessities and we are then “dependent” on them. And if people who criticize the government are not given their allotment of food, which they need to feed their family, I suspect that very few people will have anything negative to say!
This SHOULD be alarming. For decades Americans have been told how critical the Presidency is because of who they nominate to the highest court in the land. I ask, why? I don’t see any moral courage out of any of them, with the exception of Clarence Thomas, do you? And does anyone remember what they did to him in his confirmation hearings? It was a travesty.
It’s becoming painfully obvious that the “Supreme” court hates POTUS and will stop at nothing to thwart his efforts on behalf of we the people.
I have two words for all of them. And it’s not Merry Christmas.
Makes me wonder now about all those lower court judges Mitch got through without so much as a blush from the evilcrats….
At some point they all better watch out for the Delivery man ringing the doorbell. In NJ a Fake Fed EX driver rang the doorbell of a judge’s home. Her husband answered and was gunned downed and killed. Evidently the killer was hoping it was the Judge who had opened the door. You think their decisions are shitty right now, wait and see what major harm they do to us if Biden is ever elected.
I guess attempted murder isn’t a crime either then right?
And by the way, where was the “harm” demonstrated when the census issue was raised?
‘less than candid’ FedEx doorbell ringing without intent to deliver..
So basically, the plaintiffs had no standing?
Okay – I am kind of confused here because reading the Epoch Times article it sounds like this decision is a good sign that the Justices are 6-3 in FAVOR of the President having the right to include the question AND exclude illegals from the count but that they won’t make their official position known until after the Census is complete?
https://www.theepochtimes.com/supreme-court-green-lights-trump-removal-of-illegal-aliens-from-census-count_3624432.html?utm_source=news&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-2020-12-18-3
https://normalamerican.com/posts/2020/stumbling-toward-national-divorce/
fwiw, this is an excellent read.
“The Government’s effort to remove them from the apportionment base is unlawful, and I believe this Court should say so.”
I’m not a lawyer. Stephen Breyer is a sitting member of the USSC. Let me break down what he said.
Essentially we are obligated to enumerate, and pay and service, invading enemy combatants.
So, if Red Dawn occurs, we have to count their troops in our census too? hmmmm
What should be a “no-brainer” turns into legal mumbo jumbo. What a ridiculous court.
I am coming under the impression that they are using Law of the Sea jurisdictions where it is not ruling on the people but on the ship’s cargo as CISIP numbered berth certificated by the dock human resources.This would give them jurisdiction in disputes over the ships cargo and the health of the cargo, whether or not it had breeding capability, it’s training indoctrination. Could they not have proper jurisdiction in the Texas+ case because that is actually under the Constitution for the United States and their explicit jurisdiction is the Delaware corp est. 1871 The Constitution Of The United States, Inc. There is much skullduggery and misdirection afoot.
Yay!
I get to create another folder to file the Treehouse articles to that I save!
I think I’ll call this one the “Post-Constitutional Apocalypse.”
Hopefully I’ll be able to delete it on 1/20/21!
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“When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with one another….”
Unpopular among conservatives, but the only remedy for this is a National ID.
If you are stopped by authorities for any reason, and you are not in the National ID database, you are deportede and PERMANENTLY banned from ever entering the US again.
Oh, if you can’t produce a National ID card with status as “Citizen”, you cannot vote.
5 – 8 should be sub-bullets of 4
Not just unpopular with conservatives, but anyone with a love and understanding of the U S Constitution. You are buying into the Police State mentality that the Socialists want to implement.
Pretty sure the Real ID, which everyone will need and is part of getting drivers licenses, passports, etc. renewed, is the first steps in creating a national ID. Think even that people cannot get on airplanes without having one of these Real ID’s.
Bessie2003: Americans air travelers will still be able to pass TSA and board flights with a U.S. Passport. The Real ID requirement will apply to state drivers licenses. I think implementation of the requirement has already been pushed back at least once. Naturally, governments cannot meet their own deadlines.
Democrats would never agree to only two sexes. They may compromise down to 14 or 15.
🙂 existing tourist visas usually 3 + months. You need to rethink 21 days.
A national biometric ID is FAR too dangerous in the hands of liberals.
It would help with the illegal problem as you say, but the unintended consequences would be very dangerous.
It seems PDJT appointments to Institutions, Bureaucracy and Judiciary just can’t wait to reveal with a big smile that they are really agents of some faction of the establishment Deep State. I reckon Ric Grenell was the onlyTrump supporter ever appointed to anything in the last 4 years. I must be wrong but seems that way.
They pat us on the head and wonder in amusement that we don’t understand the US can be no other way.
SCOTUS would rather a fraudulently “elected” Joe President than do anything about it.
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Hypothetical if one state has 10 million legal citizens and no illegals but another state has 10 million legal citizens with 2 million illegals that state with the illegals gets more Federal dollars and more representation in Congress than the state with no illegals? So the state that can’t manager their borders gets more Federal goodies, rewarding poor performance! Someone explain how that makes any sense? It would behoove states to get as many illegals as they could to get more dollars and more representatives? Where am I going wrong?
Bubby: Thus its a feature and not a flaw. You are spot on brother.
the Supreme Court’s new , made-up “Unequal Protection” clause
In the spirit of the 2020 Supreme Court…
Washington refused Cornwallis’ surrender on the grounds that engagement was not sufficient and neither side had suffered significant casualties. Washington remanded General O’Hara back to the siege with orders to engage the fight or else.
When asked by Fake News afterwards why he refused to accept surrender and claim victory in the Revolution against England, Washington said, “We’re all about process and procedure here, not ends. Sure, we could notch a victory and claim our freedom and all that, but that wouldn’t be sporting. We have to suffer first. Only then would it be gentlemanly to accept a surrender. I mean, can you imagine the humiliation that Cornwallis would have if he just let it go like that? No, there are procedures for these things.”
Solution: exclude illegals by sending them from our shores. Would they have standing? Not until they have been relocated, but by then they are neither resident nor citizen, so they have no nexus to the USA. Leave it to the court to find standing somehow regardless.
Bet we all just can’t wait for the huge border surge that is already starting, funny cartels watch the news and is sure Joe will let them in and they are sadly right.
“…excluding the estimated 10.5 million aliens without lawful status…”
Estimated…because they can’t be/aren’t counted. It’s a protected demographic that doesn’t “officially” exist.
“without lawful status” to be counted? means “illegal alien” in coup-speak.
much like “less than candid under oath” instead of intentional criminal Perjury in coup-speak.
Not counting illegal aliens for the census and reapportionment means less money to the states who tolerate these invaders. These states would have to fork out money for medical, housing, education etc. so they were less tolerant of them. Next they will demand extra federal monies to fund their vote buying schemes.
They would destroy this check and balance.
The DemoNazi globalist Justice Roberts visited pedophile island – that’s all you need to know.
Nice……….
Should states that encourage illegal immigration (ie CA) get more representation in the House due to their unethical behavior? AND it’s been 11M illegals for 30 years…yea those are believable numbers….
Longer than that, Im older but is was 11 million in 1978.
ArmstrongEconomics post: “Should the Supreme Court Be Sanctioned?”
FTA: Chief Justice Roberts swore an oath to defend the Constitution. He has abandoned that oath and is a disgrace to the nation. He has condemned the country to the rise in civil unrest that may even rise to the level of breaking the country apart. Civilization = rule of law. He has abandoned countless centuries of precedent which distinguishes tyranny from civilization.
More than 2000 years ago, Thrasymachus warned Socrates that there is no justice. It is always the will of those in power regardless if it is a democracy, aristocracy, or a tyrannical form of government. Justice Roberts is a disgrace to the entire Western Civilization. He should step down. He has violated his oath of office and is no longer qualified to sit in that court! He should go down as the second Justice to be impeached. The only Justice to be impeached was Associate Justice Samuel Chase in 1805. The House of Representatives passed Articles of Impeachment against him; however, he was acquitted by the Senate. He acted like a prosecutor rather than a judge. Nonetheless, the impeachment raised important constitutional questions over the nature of the judiciary. It was the termination of a series of efforts to expand judicial independence under the Constitution. The dispute also defined the limits of the impeachment power. What Chief Justice Roberts has violated was clearly the prohibition of the judiciary from engaging in partisan politics and confined judicial independence which Roberts has ignored.
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/rule-of-law/should-the-supreme-court-be-sanctioned/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS
Where are my rights!
Great article explains another reason why states like California love their illegals.
They need them to make up for all the people that are leaving the state.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/12/18/fleeing-californians-could-cost-state-house-seat-electoral-vote/
The very thought this is even debatable, that illegals should be counted for allotment of Congressional seats and benefits, is insane. Is there any other country that does this?
Whatever our progressive left demands, the Supreme Court gives them: open borders, welfare and drivers licenses to illegals, free school, welfare, and now illegals have political clout. All at direct odds with US Citizens.
If the Executive branch is Biden-Harris, this will all be moot. They will count everyone for all purposes, a reversal of Trump policy. So, by denying standing, SCOTUS effectively kicked the can down the road never to see the case again, unless the current politics takes a dramatic turn by January 20.
You forgot the “right” to an abortion. I’m still trying to figure out where that particular clause is found in the Constitution.
Illegal aliens are illegal.
“Illegal” still means “AGAINST THE LAW,” right?
Yes, this is a significant case. But it seems to have been built on an “unfortunate” practice that the federal government has let exist for quite a number of years, such that people are getting conditioned to accept it.
This is the concept of SANCTUARY CITIES / STATES — i.e., giving succor to folks whose first act here was to break the law.
The thing that puzzles me is I thought it was illegal to give government sanction and protection, and taxpayer-paid benefits and services, to those who criminally came into our country. I mean, isn’t government’s job to remove illegals?
So how could government’s job be both keeping aliens out and welcoming them?
But if telling illegals they aren’t illegal isn’t illegal, then it must be legal, meaning illegal means legal?
And legal is illegal? Hey, I think I’m getting the hang of this!
After all, places like California and New York surely wouldn’t be lavishing our hard-earned taxes on folks who oughtn’t to be here.
Were SANCTUARY CITIES / STATES to be actually wrong, illegal, and acts of insurrection by the government officials sanctioning, enabling, and promoting sanctuary status, those elected and appointed officials could be rounded up and imprisoned like the illegals themselves.
Actually, Trump has the constitutional authority. It’s right there, enshrined as the Supremacy Clause:
Article VI, Paragraph 2 of the U.S. Constitution is commonly referred to as the Supremacy Clause. It establishes that the federal constitution, and federal law generally, take precedence over state laws, and even state constitutions. It prohibits states from interfering with the federal government’s exercise of its constitutional powers, and from assuming any functions that are exclusively entrusted to the federal government.
And the President is the one charged with protecting national security and national sovereignty.
Regarding the federal government’s constitutional powers:
U.S Constitution – Article 4, Section 4:
The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.
Wouldn’t the INSURRECTION ACT be just the ticket to remove those governors and mayors complicit in SANCTUARY CITIES / STATES?
Didn’t a whole lot of Presidents invoke the INSURRECTION ACT for far less serious crimes?
The INSURRECTION ACT is not only still on the books but has been continually updated over the years.
Insurrection — an organized attempt by a group of people to defeat their government and take control of their country, usually by violence.
The INSURRECTION ACT was originally signed into law by President Thomas Jefferson in 1807 and 12 Presidents have used it, from Jefferson himself to John F. Kennedy to George H.W. Bush during the Los Angeles riots.
10 U.S. Code §?253.Interference with State and Federal law
The President, by using the militia or the armed forces, or both, or by any other means, shall take such measures as he considers necessary to suppress, in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy, if it—
(1) so hinders the execution of the laws of that State, and of the United States within the State, that any part or class of its people is deprived of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law, and the constituted authorities of that State are unable, fail, or refuse to protect that right, privilege, or immunity, or to give that protection; or
(2) opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws.
In any situation covered by clause (1), the State shall be considered to have denied the equal protection of the laws secured by the Constitution.
The President has the authority to safeguard the constitutional rights of United States citizens within the territory of the United States where the state and/or local governments fail those United States citizens.
Past Presidents have invoked the Insurrection Act 19 times, both with the request of the governor of the affected state, and without their request.
Prior to the 1807 Insurrection Act, President Washington used his federal authority to personally lead nearly 13,000 militia to put down a rebelion on the enactment of an excise tax.
Along with the INSURRECTION ACT, President Trump can invoke the Communist Control Act of 1954, which was an amendment to the McCarran Internal Security Act of 1950 to outlaw the communist party and its members.
Excellent breakdown Northwoodswatcher! I think your post should be a ‘sticky’ at the top of the page so everyone gets it. Kudos!
I wish our three new “conservative” justices appointed by President Trump had as much moxey as the three Bolsheviks! You never see the Bolsheviks stray off their agenda and they always vote in a solid unified block. No matter what the issue or the law is the Bolsheviks always side with the criminal, illegal immigrant, refugee, Muslim, Black, Hispanic, Gay, Transgenders and of course other Bolsheviks!
Your comment is an example of why Liberals are so effective in gaining ground culturally. They simply do not waiver from there positions… “they pretend not to know things” They are zealots.
Also, liberals are the neediest segment in our society by far.
So in spicy times who are the first three to hang? Asking for a friend.
The most disconcerting aspect of this whole matter is that it is judges, justices and politicians that are “legalizing” this coup d’état by perverting justice. Wicked people are mocking justice because they have no fear of consequences. If this succeeds, it will cause great harm to the citizens of the US, their children and grandchildren. While there will one day be a final judgement, sadly certain people will continue to inflict great suffering on others for selfish and ideological reasons. For them that day will be a terrible one.
Conversely, if a conservative should rise up and act out in “peaceful demonstrations” in a manner akin to their leftest adversaries you might see him/her in twenty years with a dreadful case of prison pallor.
The court allowed the lower court’s ruling to stand, but it could have taken the case and cemented the exclusion of illegal aliens from the census. That they chose not to do so with a most inartful dodge telegraphs their intentions.
The Simpering Cowards of the Unamerican Socialists strike again.
Can someone drag roberts out of the court? Legalese is not more important than patriotism.
If Hoodlums and Professional Thugs, now determines the directions of the Country, and NOT the Constitution, why we need the Supreme Court Justices just pretending to work on behalf of We the People? If Justices are afraid and too chicken to enforce their duties, they should do the American people a good deed…Quit or Retire. It is the Right, Fair and Noble thing to do. I hope the Justices find Courage sooner than later, to uphold the Constitution, to do their job with Integrity and Creibilty, and not to turn over the Country to the people that have made scary cats out of them.
And the next obvious step, is “allowing” illegals the legal status to vote.
Defacto right, becomes legal right. The SCOTUS Reynolds vs Sims decision in the 1980’s, first recognised the right to vote as a Fundamental, Constitutional Right,, just like those enumerated in the Bill of rights, and even explained WHAT the right is, and the two ways Government action or inaction could infringe upon it: Dissenfranchisement and Dissolution.
Unfortunately, it defined the right as “One man, one vote”, a strange wording since women had had the right to vote, for many years prior to the decision.
A more LOGICAL wording would have been “One CITISEN, one vote”, but they didn’t “go there”, leaving the opening for the arguement, whhich you KNOW is being made, that since “undocumented” (illegal) aliens LIVE in our country, and experience the consequences of public policy, they should “have a voice” in public policy, by being allowed to vote.
SCOTUS is as dead to me, as the Republican Party.
Conmunists, all.
Are they an actual tort law court or forking activists, so the highest court in the land is okay with foreigners deciding America’s future. I cannot believe this, are they all being black mailed? Asking for a friend.
In case you haven’t notice, SCOTUS is not infallible; witness Dred Scott decision. It took a Civil War to right that wrong and end slavery; that plus the 13th Amendment … and even after all that, the Democrats were ticked off for the daring of the Republicans to take away (in current dollars) trillions of dollars of valuable property. It was only with FDR that they realized the path to power lay in the power of the state … turn the whole populace into an army of abject slaves, forever dependent on the state.
As for illegal aliens, the court is (or will be) ruling that we have always counted them in the past. Crudely put, it’s part of U.S. Common Law; this is the way we’ve always done things so we’re not going to change. Probably the only way the courts will change is in the face of violent social upheaval … riots or another civil war.
Hard truth … democratically elected and run republics aren’t pretty creatures, but they are better than the alternatives.
We have the worst form of government….except for all the others.
W.Churchill (paraphrased)
Texas has no standing to file suit based on harm from election fraud, the voices of Texas voters are moot to the court; and now the same court is saying any unlawful alien residing in the United States should be granted a voice in government.
Think about it like this…..
If I give you something worth nothing…..what exactly have you gained?
They see our voice in government as silent and worthless, and our vote as well. What do they care if illegal aliens are counted or allowed?
So think about this…if you follow the logic of SCOTUS…. if China invaded the year before a censu, they are beings on US soil though, so we should count them and give them representation in Congress.
That is where their logic leads.
Let’s not forget Roberts’ previous opinion re DACA.
You’re S…ting ME!!! Are you SERIOUS??? What’s next…allowing someone from ANY country vote in our elections as well? Let’s send those Mail-In Ballots all over the world while we’re at it. WHEN DOES THIS STOP????
The legal guild continues to fail the US Citizen and taxpayer.
Dr. Steve Turley’s video re: the SC’s “thrashing of a challenge to PT’s Plan to exclude illegal aliens from being counted in allocation congressional districts”. He labels the video: “Supreme court gives trump HUGH WINS as John Roberts Accused of FEARING RIOTS!!! (starts @ 1.30).
“If you don’t have a border, you don’t have a country.” –Donald Trump
As I said earlier today, the cynic in me see’s right thru this decision. It sounds like a win, but it’s really a club hanging over our heads waiting for the right time to whack us
Supreme Court? More like Supreme weasels.
New Zealand had a census when I was visiting, and EVERYONE participated. Once I got to the question asking if I was a citizen, I marked no, and was done. The liberal coalition, and I had no problem with it.
Marxist dims need votes.
“No quantifiable harm ….”
Not that US citizens actually have any standing in the eyes of the Supreme Court vs immigrants (legal and illegal) but the Federal and Local Governments (municipal and state) can quantify every one of these issues:
Cost of housing and Medicaid.
Cost to Education System.
Cost to unemployment benefits.
Cost the IRS can provide for fraudulent tax returns.
Cost of crime in terms of money, theft and causalities, the FBI can provide as well as corresponding cost of insurance claims.
Cost of higher insurance premiums that the Insurance Industry can provide.
As a note of interest, litigants taking President Trump’s administration to court on immigration issues always cite economic costs to immigrant and community as part of their defense.
So by the same reasoning an illegal alien who voted for Pres Trump and the GOP will have standing in the SCOTUS?
Quick find an illegal alien who did just that and promise him/her a million bucks to do just that about how the election was stolen by DemScum cheating