The ‘Woods File’ is the mandatory FBI evidence file that contains the documentary proof to verify all statements against U.S. persons that are contained in any FISA application. Remember, this is a secret court, the FISA applications result in secret Title-1 surveillance and wiretaps against U.S. persons, outside fourth amendment protections.
The absence of evidence is not necessarily evidence of absence. However, in the case of the “missing” or “reconstructed” Woods file used to gain a Title-1 FISA surveillance warrant against U.S. person Carter Page, the overwhelming evidence shows there never was one. The Special Counsel manufactured the appearance of one ex post facto in 2018.
Here’s how we can tell:
♦ FIRST – Common Sense: Recent reports of the DOJ, FBI or NSD “losing” the Woods file are abjectly silly on their face. Given the specific importance of this specific case there’s no reasonable person who would believe such a critical file of underlying evidence would just go missing and have to be recreated by the Weissmann special counsel.
♦ SECOND – Precedent: In the March 30, 2020, memorandum written by the Office of Inspector General after review of 29 DOJ-NSD FISA applications, the IG noted the absence of Woods Files is not an uncommon occurrence. Factually within the 29 FISA applications reviewed, four were completely missing the Woods File. Meaning there was zero supportive evidence for any of the FBI claims against U.S. persons underpinning the FISA applications. [ie. The FBI just made stuff up]
♦ THIRD – How Would They Get Away With That?: To answer that question it is important to remember the DOJ-National Security Division, the entity responsible for the legal assembly of FISA applications, did not have any oversight. In 2015 the OIG requested oversight and it was Deputy AG Sally Yates who responded with a lengthy 58 page legal explanation saying, essentially, ‘nope – not allowed.’ (PDF HERE) All of the DOJ is subject to oversight, except the NSD.
The DOJ-NSD could get away with the lack of legal requirements because there was no entity providing oversight to ensure the completeness of the legal requirements they were supposed to follow. Not coincidentally this is the exact division within the DOJ that weaponized FARA investigations as the justification for political surveillance. [That becomes important later when we get to Carter Page specifics]
♦ FOURTH – Trish Anderson Admission: The Deputy General Counsel for the FBI National Security & Cyber Law Branch (NSCLB), Trisha Beth Anderson, admitted during her testimony to congress that she never verified the existence of the Woods File, nor its content. Anderson stated she never even reviewed the FISA application for appropriate assembly because it came to her from an unusual top-down process.
In front of a joint session of the House Judiciary and Oversight committees on Aug. 31, 2018, former FBI Deputy General Counsel Trisha Anderson said she was normally responsible for signing off on Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act applications before they reached the desk of her superiors for approval. Anderson said the “linear path” those applications typically take was upended in October 2016, with FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe and Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates signing off on the application before she did. Because of that unusual high-level involvement, she didn’t see the need to “second guess” the FISA application. (link)
Why did she do this? Trish Anderson disclosed why in her previously hidden testimony to congress (August 2018). [LINK]
Anderson said all FISAs need to be signed off on in the FBI’s National Security Law Branch, where she was assigned at the time. Anderson said she was the Senior Executive Service approver for the “initiation” of the Page FISA, including determining whether there is legal sufficiency.
But Anderson stressed “in this particular case, I’m drawing a distinction because my boss and my boss’ boss had already reviewed and approved this application.” She emphasized “this one was handled a little bit differently in that sense, in that it received very high-level review and approvals — informal, oral approvals — before it ever came to me for signature.”
Anderson said that FISA approvals are typically “tracked in a linear fashion” and that someone in the Senior Executive Service “is the final approver on hard copy before a FISA goes to the director or deputy director for signature.” She said the Page FISA was approved outside regular procedures. (more)
Anderson had signed-off on earlier Page FISA applications because they came to her already signed: ex. by James Comey (FBI) and Sally Yates (DOJ).
“Because there were very high-level discussions that occurred about the FISA,” Anderson said she believed that meant “the FISA essentially had already been well-vetted all the way up through at least the Deputy Director [McCabe] level on our side and through the DAG [Yates] on the DOJ side.” Yates had already signed the application by the time it made it to Anderson’s desk.
When Trish Anderson signed-off on the last Carter Page FISA renewal (June 29, 2017) the Special Counsel was now running the DOJ. Andrew Weissmann, formerly of the DOJ-NSD, was running the special counsel operation. Meanwhile FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe was in position and running the FBI.
This was the third renewal where Office of General Counsel (OGC) lawyer Kevin Clinesmith fabricated evidence to hide that Carter Page was working with, and was a source for, the CIA.
Again, Deputy General Counsel Trish Anderson rubber-stamped the application because it came with pre-approval from above. Anderson never saw, nor questioned, any underlying documentation; or the absence thereof. The lack of supportive documentation, a Woods File, passed her review because the application had pre-approval by her supervisors.
♦ FIFTH – IG Horowitz Provides Cover for Institutional Issues: Within his December 2019, IG report on the four FISA applications, Inspector General Horowitz covers for the issue of missing supportive evidence by saying the customary procedure for the Woods File verification is not needed when the evidence involves a confidential human source (CHS):
This description is entirely consistent with the DOJ and FBI using the Chris Steele dossier as a replacement for the Woods File procedures. Under this sketchy justification Steele would be an FBI confidential human source (CHS). Ergo, the dossier served as the underpinning and the only requirement would be for the application to “accurately reflect what [Steele] told the FBI”. That’s how they pulled this off.
♦ SIXTH –Everyone knew it was BS – AGAIN FARA (Remember, FARA via DOJ-NSD had no oversight) this is part of the corrupt process: Senator Johnson’s FISA timeline, citing page 62 of the IG report, states categorically that FBI HQ ordered the New York Field Office to open a Foreign Agent Registration Act (FARA) investigation of Carter Page on April 1, 2016, and that the NYFO did so on April 6, 2016.
Since Carter Page’s alleged Russian agent status (“an agent of a foreign government”) is the critical predicate for the original and three renewal FISA applications [core of the Crossfire Hurricane investigation], how can Crossfire Hurricane team maintain they did not open investigation until July 31, 2016?
Carter Page joined the Trump campaign March 21, 2016, eleven days before the order, and ten days after the Buryakov press release identified him to the Russians as the (undercover employee) UCE responsible for burning three of their SVR agents.
Not only is is incredibly unlikely that Page — who was still on the witness list for Buryakov’s prosecution until his sentencing on May 25, 2016 — was thought an appropriate subject for recruitment by the Russians, even after associating with the Trump campaign… but even if he was, the opening of the April 6, 2016, FARA investigation by the NYFO almost four months before Crossfire Hurricane “officially” opened meant the FBI’s investigation into a Trump campaign associate began long before they say it did.
Add to that reality the fact the FARA order likely came from FBI HQ via Bill Priestap, and there is no way the FBI could credibly believe a UCE they knew responsible for burning three SVR agents had been recruited by the same SVR due to his recent association with the Trump campaign. It was all smoke and mirrors.
♦ CONCLUSION: Taking all the above into proper context, when the office of inspector general announced on March 28, 2018, that he was going to review all four of the Carter Page FISA applications; no doubt the office of the special counsel, Andrew Weissmann; who was previously the DOJ-NSD FARA targeting coordinator; moved swiftly to create the appearance of a Woods File where none previously existed. That led to the Woods Procedure justification as stated by the IG.
There never was a Woods File. The FBI and DOJ relied upon the Chris Steele Dossier as the evidence to support the FISA application. Chris Steele was identified as a Confidential Human Source, and his dossier was qualified as a replacement for the Woods File.
That’s exactly what happened. I guarantee it.
Is Barr going to comment on the lack of oversight in the DOJ-NSD? Will that be permanently repaired by stature or otherwise so there will be future oversight over outrageous FARA cases (eg none were done in the Podesta brothers).
Second, I had asked before- if the CIA purposefully placed an agent (Page) into a position for a FISA warrant and 2 hop wiretap, could they also deem the Woods file unnecessary. What if all those missing Woods files are because they were purposefully inserting agents into other cases? We know various contractors were using the NSA database as their toy. They could see things and try to retrace other paths to pretend it was legally gained material.
Likewise, what happens with the FISA court? No new checks and balances? Because in its present form it’s still ripe for abuse. And Collyer and Boasberg et al certainly did not give any tips on how to rectify that. Chief Justice Roberts is not the answer.
Are there still private contractors mining the database of the NSA using different search terms? Who gave those contractors permission and who are they?
Have we answered who the 4th FISA warrant was for? We heard Wallid Farid say he was the 4th FISA. Has this been verified? Why him?
and where is the woods file on him?
4th FISA?
What are the other ones?
So far we had one confirmed: Carter Page (Original + 3 renewals)
Strzok mentioned another in a text: “DRAGON FISA” which matches the name of a Crossfire-related investigation in EC on interview with Steele’s PSS
HERE:https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/February%209,%202017%20Electronic%20Communication.pdf
Wallid Farid claims he is the REDACTED target in the Aug 2 Scope memo but I’ve never seen anywhere that this has been confirmed.
HERE:https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/SJC%20Scope%20Memo%20-%202020-05-06.pdf
If (perhaps a big if) volume 5 from the SSCI is correct, Carter Page is listed as Crossfire Dragon.
For reference:
…shortly after Crossfire Hurricane started they opened four investigations on:
– George Papadopoulos — Crossfire Typhoon
– Carter Page — Crossfire Dragon
– Michael Flynn — Crossfire Razor
– Paul Manafort — Crossfire Fury
Thanks Drob
I haven’t read that one yet……(still recovering from the last four)
So VOL 5 specifically identifies Carter Page investigation as “CROSSFIRE Dragon”??
Interesting….
Crossfire Hurricane (Umbrella) officially opens July 31, 2016.
The EC regarding Danchenko identifies 3 Case IDs:
“Crossfire Hurricane”
“Dragon”
“Crossfire Fury”
Maybe it’s nothing….but why doesn’t it say “CROSSFIRE Dragon”?
Also why does Strzok in emails (I above incorrectly said “text”) refer to
Carter Page (Crossfire) FISA
AND separately a
“DRAGON FISA”
if Carter Page IS Dragon??
Lisa Page in her House testimony seemed to distinguish between the two as well.
Perhaps the answer is this:
“FBI HQ ordered the New York Field Office to open a Foreign Agent Registration Act (FARA) investigation of Carter Page on April 1, 2016, and that the NYFO did so on April 6, 2016.”
Could this be “DRAGON”?
And it simply got rolled up into CROSSFIRE HURRICANE?
Could they have already HAD an existing FISA on Carter Page (DRAGON FISA) as early as April 2016?
This would mean the FBI had access to way more campaign communications, way EARLIER than October 2016.
US Atty John Bash is looking at “unmaskings” for all of calendar year 2016 into 2017.
Hopefully we get to see what he digs up.
You are likely making good points – as I noted, it’s a big IF regarding the SSCI report. It’s buried – starting with the last paragraph on page 812 and continuing onto page 813 (pages 826 and 827 of the PDF). Footnote 5343 (bottom of page 813) also contained some investigation information. While I didn’t read the whole thing – this was in an area I scanned a little more closely. I made a note of it as it surprised me – I didn’t recall seeing all four of those noted before. It also noted that additional investigations were started, with no timeline given, on Sessions, Trump and 1 or more redacted people. Interestingly, it appears that the code name for the investigation for Sessions and Trump do not contain “Crossfire” although Trump’s does appear to be 2 words.
They note the August memo to the SCO authorized 5 investigations – 4 named (Page, Manafort, Papadopoulos, and Flynn) and 1 redacted. The October memo added at least 3 named (Cohen, Gates, Stone) and and 3 redacted targets. These were supposedly secondary targets related to Manafort, Flynn, Cohen, and a redacted. Shortly after starting, the SCO also took over existing FBI investigations of multiple redacted, Page, Papadopoulos, Flynn, redacted, Manafort, 2 more redacted, Crossfire Hurricane, and redacted (these were disclosed to Burr on 9/5/19).
I was going to post my own main comment, but I’ll just tack one on here:
Sundance wrote, “When Trish Anderson signed-off on the last Carter Page FISA renewal (June 29, 2017) the Special Counsel was now running the DOJ.”
With the non-producing Barr in place, I would say the Special Counsel, alias the coup plotters, alias Barack Obama and his Black Muslim Brotherhood (BLM), are STILL running the DOJ. Someone other than a complicit AG needs to undo Yates’s sheltering of the DOJ-NSD from proper (and stiffly legal, for a pleasant change) oversight. …”Black Muslim Brotherhood” is my new term, for the “Deep State” as constituted by Obama. (…compare that to the “Black Lives Matter, or BLM…which I suggest really stands for “Black Liberation Muslims”).
That’s enough for now. I don’t want to strain anyone’s attention.
If the Woods file was created, it can be found.
NOTHING GETS “LOST” if it was created electronically.
THE ANSWER CAN BE FOUND QUITE RAPIDLY.
If one seeks the answer. The SWAMPIRE doesn’t even want the question, much less the true answer. This task lies with Barr and his teams. Such as they are.
DEPLORABLE JEDI.
Bill Binney has always said that no electronic communications are lost. They are all on the NSA’s servers. Why the hell don’t they get the rest of the Strzok/Page emails and other communication between the coup perpetrators?
What are the possible explanations?
1. Durham has them; time consuming process. (Adam Housley argument.)
2. AG Barr / Durham don’t have them, not serious.
3. NSA is dirty, a State Dept 2.0.
One of the main “HIVES” is located in Utah.
Home of a Mr. Huber. Remember him?
Curious as to what his REAL TASK was.
We should know very soon.
DEPLORABLE JEDI.
They can be destroyed, ask Hillary
Kleen- LOVE ^^^
Chain of command evidence rules:
If the Woods file(s) cannot be produced (ie; cannot be found) then charges against Carter Page in the Courts cannot continue and must be Vacated.
All FISA warrants against Page are false and therefor invalid.
This should be the end of the story…but the cases are still on going…WHY?
Because an exception was created, accepted and put into place by the deep state via Obama’s administration and later by Special Council Mueller’s team. The basic concept is written below:
Some evidence, (including Woods Files) are so super secret that nobody can
Request them, nobody can View them and nobody can Question their validity
Thus there never has to be any Woods file documentation…
The deep state has fixed the Constitution – all three branches.
Once any of “THE HAG QUEENS” minions hit the SEND BUTTON that data belongs to NO SUCH AGENCY. “OHR…OHR…another government entity with similar capabilities.
Everything can be found if one wishes to FIND IT. Therein lies the problem.
DEPLORABLE JEDI.
Hey easy there smoke Jedi ………. Barr has his priority …………. it’s just not justice.
Barr and many others know in minute, documentable detail what crimes/violations were committed and by whom. He is in quite the quandary now trying to protect his lifelong buddies and prevent the massive destruction of his beloved departments and agencies.
Barr and many others know in minute, documentable detail what crimes/violations were committed and by whom. He is in quite the quandary now trying to protect his lifelong buddies and prevent the massive destruction of his beloved departments and agencies.
Barr and many others know in minute, documentable detail what crimes/violations were committed and by whom. He is in quite the quandary now trying to protect his lifelong buddies and prevent the massive destruction of his beloved departments and agencies.
Barr and many others know in minute, documentable detail what crimes/violations were committed and by whom. He is in quite the quandary now trying to protect his lifelong buddies and prevent the massive destruction of his beloved departments and agencies.
Barr and many others know in minute, documentable detail what crimes/violations were committed and by whom. He is in quite the quandary now trying to protect his lifelong buddies and prevent the massive destruction of his beloved departments and agencies.
One of the MOTLEY CREW in cyberspace I associate with has given a new nickname to our A.G. in lieu of BAGPIPES.
A.G. “SCRUBBING BUBBLES” Barr.
I deem it appropriate at this point in time.
Subject to change when the facts on the ground do.
DEPLORABLE JEDI.
I want to know more about the FISA Judges. At this point in time, these Judges were either complicit, or incompetent. It is glaringly obvious that the Judiciary is corrupted. The actions taken by the entire Washington, DC Circuit Court show political bias against Michael Flynn. Justice is no longer blind. It has now become political assassins wearing black robes, dispensing ideological verdicts, on people who do not agree with them, or threaten their cause. I am to the point that I do not believe we can clean up Washington, DC, or ” Drain the Swamp “. The corruption, and just pure evil, is so wide spread, and permeates every square inch of Washington, that only an act of God could set things right. The Barr/Durham investigations are not promising, all involved in the attempted coup of a duly elected President, are walking around free, as if nothing has, or ever will happen to them. Hillary, and Bill, Obama, and Michelle, are still working behind the scenes, and calling shots, Huma Abedin, Wasserman Shultz, Podesta, and an endless list of the most vile filth on the planet have not suffered one moment, are free to roam, still working to remove President Trump by any means possible, and everything is on the table. So, we have no true, blind justice for all, we have a two tier justice system, where the rich, and powerful get away with a slap on the wrist, and the American People get the whole truck load dropped on them. I am in a bit of a ” Blue Funk ” right now, but still hold out hope that some where, some how, real, and true justice will come to these spawns of Satan.
Who can stand with insight read the signs of the times. I look for some one other than myself because my read is devastating.
Please keep in mind that the FISA system is based on FAITH. Faith that those presenting the evidence to the court are doing so honestly. You will find that a great many things involving various aspects of Federal Law Enforcement procedures are reliant on that faith.
That said, the FBSPY and others involved in SPYGATE did in fact “JUDGE SHOP”. After the first FISA APPLICATION was denied, “THE INSURANCE POLICY COUP CABAL” simply waited for the “ROTATION OF JUDGES” on the FISA COURT.
In the end, the Judges should be the least of those we need to see face true JUSTICE. First things first.
DEPLORABLE JEDI.
stillwater66: You summed up the sordid mess quite nicely and I hope you feel better for having done so. You reach a point where you know all you need to know about what these people tried to do and it can be a Blue Funk, that nothing is being done about it.
I reached that point a month ago and chose to let it go. I’ve followed every twist and turn for three years. I know everything that has been made publically available even though the dates may get a little muddled and I may not remember all the names. Sundance has solved many of the mysteries with his skilled detective work and observations. In the end, we know, so what.
I’m not going to allow these evil people to live in my mind. They enjoy us being angry and frustrated, that’s how evil works. Don’t allow them the satisfaction.
Did Carter Page know and work with Strok and Page while with the FBI as an asset?
I heard he had a prior relationship with them, and if so, then he was INSERTED into the Trump campaign.
Never been any evidence that Carter knew Strzok & Page personally.
According to the IG FISA Report 2019
Their was an EC from 2009 that shows the FBI knew back then that Carter Page was a
“source” for another agency.
“Additionally, Case Agent 1 received an email on August 10, 2016, containing an attachment titled “Carter Page-Profile,” which had been prepared by a Crossfire Hurricane Staff Operations Specialist (SOS). The profile, dated August 1, 2016, quoted the 2009 EC regarding Page’s statements to the FBI about his contact with the other U.S. government agency.”
The FBI had in their own equities evidence that Carter Page had told them back in 2009 he worked for “CIA”.
I’m thinking we all need vaseline.
Crude, but true. ……
Sometimes the truth hurts and is not pretty
For what it’s worth, that has been the case for the last 12 years, since Obama was first elected and the Democrats turned into the Insane Left Cult (as I have been harping on all this time). And I’m thinking it’s well past time everybody understood that, once and for all…the problem is making the Insane Left itself aware of it.
Might want to check on Attorney General emergency orders…in the report period containing Page FISC approvals.
Such emergencies are never supposed to be on US person. But they wiggled everything else…I bet there were emergency orders reported to congress ore EVEN BETTER emergency AG FISC applications NOT Reported to congress.
“the total number of pen registers and trap and trace devices whose installation and use was authorized by the Attorney General on an emergency basis under section 1843 of this title, and the total number of subsequent orders approving or denying the installation and use of such pen registers and trap and trace devices.144”
In RE:
♦ FIFTH – IG Horowitz Provides Cover for Institutional Issues: Within his December 2019, IG report on the four FISA applications, Inspector General Horowitz covers for the issue of missing supportive evidence by saying the customary procedure for the Woods File verification is not needed when the evidence involves a confidential human source (CHS):
Pay close attention to Grassley inquiry to SIMPSON on this. Remember it was Simpson’s wife who went to NYT to say the CHS was Papa that Glenn referred to in his testimony…and Grassley told Simpson’s lawyer…’your client lied’ bring him in and Simpson’s lawyer said NOPE …no idea what wife is talking about.
Ahem…
why the above is important…SIMPSON knew how they were going to actually name as the CHS
per last part of essay:
There never was a Woods File. The FBI and DOJ relied upon the Chris Steele Dossier as the evidence to support the FISA application. Chris Steele was identified as a Confidential Human Source, and his dossier was qualified as a replacement for the Woods File.
Why have Anderson sign it at all if it was just a rubber-stamp? What is she affirming? That a Free-Floating Evidence-Free Rogue Police State wanted to conduct its own Coup against the President of the United States?
You know–the Way the Framers Intended(tm).
the ‘living constitution’ urged by USA-haters and creative justices without ethics
HER CONTENTION is that she didn’t have to do due diligence, because her bosses wanted it done?
But she signs off for the veracity, truthfulness, & content. Right?
I call BS.
Her assertion is very easy to understand, since it is a typical example of human frailty.
In the usual scenario, the underlings do the verification, so that when the FISA Application is presented to the high superiors (eg., Comey/Yates etc), the high superiors just rubber stamp it, and sign off, without carrying out, any independent and personal verification.
In this case, since the FISA had already been signed off by the high superiors, she thought that they had already done the verification, such that there was no need for her to personally check and verify.
In other words, most of the people who sign off on a FISA Application, do not carry out personal vetting/checking etc, they merely rely upon others, usually underlings, have carried out the necessary and required checks/verifiactions etc.
This is what Rosenstein told us in his recent testimony. FISA is a farce, and there is no point in having multiple people signing off on it when those people do not individually and personally vet and verify the process.
And to top it off, the process is ex party and the Court itself does not carry out any individual verification. Perhaps the Court should be presented with the Woods File, and charged with verifying the Applcation against the Wood File, and where appropriate seek evidence supporting what is in the Woods File. Perhaps the FISA Court should be the final chack and balance and be charged with a positive role in the verification process, and not simply take at face value the FISA Applicatiuon which is headed ‘Verified’
Nah, she’s the scapegoat, already set up with an excuse…
Well she described it as “high level” so she probably figured just sign off. Either 1. I’ll lose my job for making a stink, 2. No one is going to know about this anyway… 3. Both. I’m not justifying her actions, but put yourself in the moment. The bigwigs are going to get what they want either way.
Deniability at all levels. Anderson says she didn’t review it because her superiors already approved it. Whoops! McCabe says he didn’t review it because he expected Anderson to do the full review. Whoops! Comey says McCabe told him that Anderson was going to review it. Whoops!
Remember, they designed all the laws as well as “clarifying” rules and regulations. Our whole legal system is designed to provide cover and plausible deniability for the deep state’s abuse of power. This is why Barr won’t be able to prosecute those in charge of the coup because in most cases the top dogs didn’t actually do anything illegal. They kept their hands as clean as possible with “mistakes” occurring at every level. E.g. It’s not illegal for Obama to order an investigation of Flynn. It’s unethical and immoral. Trump has the same power but can’t exercise it because the media would lie to the public about what he did. It’s a two tier system.
Eyes Opened: You have made a very important point here, and I hope people pay attention to what you said. We should make every attempt to change it, but it’s spilled milk, and crying over it does no good. Let’s devote our energy to seeing this is changed.
“Our whole legal system is designed to provide cover and plausible deniability for the deep state’s abuse of power. This is why Barr won’t be able to prosecute those in charge of the coup because in most cases the top dogs didn’t actually do anything illegal.”
In Hitchcock films, the MacGuffin was the plot device (a document, a briefcase, a person etc. ) to get the plot moving, to lend motivation. Often the MacGuffin was abandoned halfway through the picture.
The CIA/FBI asset Carter Page was sent to join the Trump Campaign to justify obtaining a FISA warrant to spy on the entire campaign. He complied, and Carter the MacGuffin, his small but crucial role complete, was abandoned. They couldn’t even be bothered to stick a few trite documents in a manila folder and scribble his name on it (a “Woods” file).
Carter Page eventually had one more part to play: to go on Fox News and pretend to still be relevant to this story, as if the FISA warrant process had ever been real.
Love Hitchcock and your reference.
Page would be perfect in his films- he could appear guilty until the very final reveal. His artfully crafted word salad language makes him appear guilty but possibly guileless until the very last minute.
Carter Page is smart. He is nobody’s fool, and knows more than he reveals.
raptors2020. to the point and In a nutshell. Grammy
Where are those seagulls when you need them?
Raptor- I think you got it exactly right. The proof of all this is that NOTHING ever happened to Carter Page for his “crimes”. The guy is just too weird for me.
I just hope that once this election is over and our President Trump gets his second term, that he will immediately take decisive action against all of the thug/ criminals who perpetrated this massive conspiracy.
Seneca:
Most people still don’t grasp, that with the 2-hop rule, a FISA warrant is a permission to spy on everyone you know, and everyone they know.
People saw Carter Page on Fox and asked themselves “who is this doofus, and how could he possibly matter?”. Brilliant.
Ditto.
Depends on whether or not SGPDJT has the coattails to carry Congress. If yes, then the House of Cards falls. If not, 4 more years of the last 4 years.
Vote as if your life depended on it.
Ralph: I believe he does. We lost the house because of Paul Ryan, the SC Investigation and media’s endless Russia collusion message. People know the truth now and have seen how those “moderate” democrats vote for every crazy, Marxist idea they can.
But we can dream, right?
Ps- I hope we save Peach from Bowser…?
What can we do?? We know the truth. Wtf can we do?????
Wake up. No matter who wins, we will see a major revolution, and it’s passed due.
What happened to the Sundance plan to brief willing citizens on the BIG UGLY evidence whereupon the persons briefed would brief 10 other people? Was that cancelled/suspended or is that ongoing? I am confused.
I have family and friends asking “ what ever happened with your blogger who was going to release the info on government corruption ?” I have no answer. It was all so specific and promising. Release to press, 24 hours later release to public, each one teach 10. Time for action!
The whole damn Government is corrupt, both parties are on the take.
Yes, my husband asked me the other day. I didn’t have an answer. I don’t know how Mr. Sundance keeps digging without some hope!
See this post: https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/09/02/we-are-the-people-we-have-been-waiting-for/
So now we have to wait till ‘after the election’. And what happens if PDJT looses his 2nd term due to massive mail in ballot fraud by the Dems?
Then what? I’ll tell you what. Then America, land of the free, home of the brave is ruled by corrupt Dems forever.
A two tier justice system, corrupt to the core DOJ, CIA and FBI and a senate full of corrupt scum.
No time left and we are short on manpower. We must concentrate on the Election with everything we’ve got.
So the game keeps rolling as is? The tactical overcomes the ethical and legal.
That seems to be an acceptable outcome for the Swamp.
The crooks we are trying to catch are the ones who have been in charge of the agencies for decades and they made the rules we are questioning. They made those rules so they can get around them. These are lawyers, judges, investigators etc.
They wouldn’t create rules to stop them from doing anything, those rules were meant to facilitate their moves, yet make us think they are being good people and trying to do things right, notice they all have big smiles on their faces.
What we the people know it’s what they want us to know. But inside the agencies it’s all about secrets that we will never know. There will always be a loophole and unknown details that allows them to do what they did.
The coverup is not so they don’t go to jail. Nope!
It’s just so we don’t find out how things REALLY work in their system.
They are not going to on TV to lie so they can get away with crimes. Nope!
They are controlling the narrative so we don’t find out what they did is business as usual and they have rules in place to be able to do that.
So as long as you can come up with a CHS willing to say what you need, you can spy on anybody.
Great.
President Trump’s second term would benefit greatly from Sundance’s involvement.
Even if PDJT wins there might not be a second term.
“Over the summer a story was deliberately leaked to the press of a meeting at which 100 Democratic grandees, anti-Trump former Republicans, and other ruling class apparatchiks got together (on George Soros’s dime) to “game out” various outcomes of the 2020 election. One such outcome was a clear Trump win. In that eventuality, former Bill Clinton White House Chief of Staff John Podesta, playing Biden, refused to concede, pressured states that Trump won to send Democrats to the formal Electoral College vote, and trusted that the military would take care of the rest.”
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/coming-coup
Dear Cruiser55:
That Zero Hedge article is scary as hell.
Keep your powder dry.
Who attended the wargaming?
There’s a huge assumption in all of this: that the public will quietly and subserviently abide. Not likely. How will they govern? What assumptions are being made?
Some things begin to make sense however. Recall during the early years of the Obama administration the controversy over Napolitano organizing government focus and resources against right wing militia groups? The effort to dry up ammunition? The effort to resource Federal agencies with their own para-military forces and weaponry? The urban control exercises using military personnel in Texas (actually initiated during the Bush adminstration) contra Posse Comitatus? ALl of this starts to make sense in context.
Transition Integrity Project is the name of the ‘war games’, and in at least one scenario Biden was played by John Podesta.
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/7013152/Preventing-a-Disrupted-Presidential-Election-and.pdf
That’s where President Trump’s Deplorable Army comes in. It’ll be time to mach on the swamp in force. Protect our president and drain the swamp in one fell swoop.
Giant cauldrons of tar percolating with the pungent smell wafting across the mall. Feathers in abundance slowly drifting through the air with rails stacked in rows waiting for the next swamp rat and his or her ride out of town. Unlike the dull-wits presently stinking up the blue hives around our beloved land, demolition companies roll in demolishing K-Street down to it’s foundations, while lobbyist flee praying they’ve stowed enough money in the Cayman’s to maintain their parasitic existence.
Think Tanks converted into homeless shelters for any wayward swamp rat and we turn them into guarded autonomous zones where all the free booze, drugs and guns you want. This is so the swamp rats can experience Portland.
Once it’s complete, we clean it up and restore that Shining City on a Hill to real beauty inside and out. Nail a note on the door of House of Representatives that states very simply “don’t make us come back” and to really piss them of “God Bless America!”
The same can be reported around the country at many state capitals and universities where patriots use one litmus test and simply ask, how many genders are there? We all know the right answer.
Note: Private jets were noted taking off all around the country, but the one that got away was Soros and his criminal family heading off to join Tom Hanks and family on a island in Greece with no extradition treaty with the USA.
Yea ………… try to get that past the Chi Com McConnell.
Their biggest fear is not going to jail.. Nope! They are not worried about AT ALL.
Their biggest fear is being exposed for having a 2 tier justice system.
Their worse nightmare is to have POTUS knowing and then talking about what they did. Exposing that it was actually legal in their own system and it goes on all the time.
Exposing the agencies for spying on all of us anytime they want and terrorizing anyone they want.
This has been going on for decades and they need that to stay secret.
Given Barr’s recent pronouncements they have dropped any pretense of being concerned about a two tiered system of justice. They have just formally acknowledged it as SOP henceforth.
After the election, if Biden wins the anarchists will go even more out of control because they know Biden probably won’t do much to stop them.
If Trump wins, the anarchists will go even more out of control because they will be enrage with Trump’s win.
Either way, no one will be paying attention to the Durham investigation.
YOU are exactly correct. There is no doubt of a bloody revolution. It has already begun by Antifa, and BLM, both MARXIST ORGANS . It will spread into the suburbs, and into the rural country, but they will be defeated. Now, us patriots will respond to Victory. Liberty.
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Why are they running the clock?
They need Trump not knowing that what happened is not illegal in the swamp’s own legal system.
They can’t have Trump finding out that what happened to him was business as usual and they do it to everyone all the time.
Exposing their secrets would bring down the house.
They need POTUS and us thinking there’s an investigation going on.
Now they are conditioning us to accept nothing is going to happen (Gowdy) … we will be mad about the “corruption” but nothing we can do about it and they will make it go away.
What they don’t want is to be exposed, have all docs declassified and published and then having to make stuff up as to why they are not in jail when what they did, would be considered crimes outside of the swamp. Also they have been assuring the public they don’t spy on Americans, that too would be exposed as a lie.
But inside the swamp is business as usual, they do that and much worse all the time and it’s what goes on. They all participate in it and benefit from their own hidden system.
They know everyone is involved, therefore no one will expose anything.
Carter Page joined the Trump campaign March 21, 2016
“FBI HQ ordered the New York Field Office to open a Foreign Agent Registration Act (FARA) investigation of Carter Page on April 1, 2016, and that the NYFO did so on April 6, 2016.”
It is likely that the politically crooked NYFO was using the “plant’ carter page investigation, for ‘multiple hops’ through the NSA database 702 unmasking scheme, to spy on the entire Trump campaign and DJT’s family.
If durham is honest, he has all the 702 spy records, showing that page was not the real target.
If durham is barr’s dishonest coverup agent, this would not be investigated, as would no other NSA database contractors or illegal political spying targets.
Wait for Huber to finish his investigation , just be patient it takes time. Just wait.
Then… Huber is finishing his investigation and “sources” said nothing will come out of it.
Then Horowitz… wait for Horowitz, it will be devastating! The swamp is so scared.
Then… Sources say he found some irregularities but… meh… he didn’t really have access to some important docs/people. So, we can’t expect little crimes to be dealt with. Let’s wait for the big ones.
Let’s wait for Durham, he is real deal, just keep waiting. Then… oh well, no charges for some obvious crimes, I guess he is working on the big ones. Wait for the big ones.
Clinesmith is just some low level guy, Durham has more important crimes he is working on, just wait.
Well sources don’t think anything will happen. It’s too close to election… so, we just have to accept that we ran out of time.
Kleen: You summed it pretty well. The only thing I can think of you missed was just wait… Steath Jeff, the silent executioner is going to arrest them all.
I have never put much faith in Barr doing much. Number one, he was first appointed by H W Bush. Two, he has been in D.C. all his life and openly acknowledges these people are his friends. Three, there is only so much he can do when laws were not violated, only rules and procedures. That’s where most of the activity falls. It was wrong, it should be illegal but no statute was violated by most of these people.
Barr’s appointment was approved by the corrupt senate because things had gotten too out of control and the SC was coming up empty and running roughshod over innocent people. They had to have someone restore order. That was his mission. He has done that, ended the SC, gotten rid of the coup plotters in doj & fbi and is supportive of the President’s policies. In short, he is running the doj in a responsible manner.
If we do get more, I will be thrilled, but I’m not counting on it.
Does anyone know if Jay Sekulow reads CTH? He could be invaluable in helping to weed out the swamp from within…
So what.
Where’s the info we were supposed to disseminate?
More and more proof and no action.
Rabbit holes.
Yes. I was looking forward to trying to educate some dem family members to the depths and extent of the criminality of obama’s regime with some well-organized material, but. . .
Same old pass the buck defense whether it is Rosenstein, Yates or Anderson. All singing the same tune from the same broken record: “I was duped;” “I relied on others” “assumed it had fully investigated” “would not have signed if I had known…..”
No one held accountable for illegal FISA applications to try and take down a President. Just sickening that such in your face criminality going unpunished.
And they all sing from the same page too.
lacagle. There is no law passed by the congress that provides punishment for obtaining a fisa warrant using fraudulent means. You might want to call your senators and representative and ask why that is the case. The fbi only has rules and procedures for the fisa warrant process. You can’t indict someone for breaking a rule or not following a procedure.
It’s been fixed that way, I wonder why?
The unbelievable outcome (To me) of all this is… Wow DJT is sooooo clean.
While they can get away, because they cover for each other, DJT does not have that luxury, quite the opposite – this fact is the incredible story of CH, not the fact that liars lie.
My love of DJT grows taller and wider every day.
Trump reminds me of Francisco in Atlas Shrugged. He allowed others to think he was a playboy or a wastrel though he was clean. He also reminds me of Hank in that he was brought up on phony charges. I hope no one looks into my background the way they did DJT. I haven’t done anything wrong but I’m sure they could manufacture something that I could not defend myself against the way the president has. How many others are in Federal prisons due to our corrupt DOJ/FBI?
Ayn Rand told us all about it 70 years ago in “Atlas Shrugged”, the “Fountainhead” (Atlas Shrugged lite), “We the Living” and more…
So did Orwell with “1984” and “Animal Farm” and more…
There are many that have warned the world…The world has had it’s own ideas.
We the Living was so shocking and repulsive, I set it down for several months before finishing it. In the end, it was a vivid portrayal of life under communism. We have indeed been forewarned. The book reads like a first novel, but it is still valuable.
The only thing I can think of that could blow this thing open in the short amount of time we have left prior to the election is for Julian Assange to testify to what he knows.
Why not have Trump demand his team go interview him in prison ? Don’t send Barr or Durham, send a B team of close associates, maybe led by Giuliani. Make it public and in their face. Strategy should be fine-tuned for maximum effect.
Yeah, the Brits would block and kill Assange if necessary, but at least everyone would see what’s up, and Trump could warn them against it ahead of time. Although it would quickly follow that Trump is a conspiracy theorist and lost his marbles, etc. Just thinking out loud. Would make for great popcorn sessions at least.
Rohrabacher tried. He was targeted by convicted tax fraud William Browder, who testified to Lindsay Graham that the Russians paid Fusion GPS for the dossier.
Congressional Testimony: The Russians paid Fusion GPS to generate the golden shower Trump dossier
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/07/27/congressional-testimony-the-russians-paid-fusion-gps-to-generate-the-golden-shower-trump-dossier/
Rohrabacher relayed whatever info he gathered from his meeting w Assange to deep state actor Gen Kelly when Kelly was Trumps Chief of staff. Need we know more? Time for Rohrbacher to try again to get the presidents ear.
Bill Bowser’s mane sure comes up a lot. Wasn’t the Trump Tower meeting a bait and switch which was supposedly about dirt on Hillary the Maginski Act? By that Russian female attorney? And he’s wanted in Russia, and travels in British finance circles? And a Trump-hater? I haven’t heard someone put it all together yet, like us subsuming all these loose facts under a deeper insight.
Bill Bowder, spelling errors.
Funny you should mention that C2C. Saw on Fox & Friends First this morning that Assange’s extradition trial begins today and that it is expected to last a couple of weeks.
John J McCloy [on JFK assassination Warren Commission (coverup)]
…. [we must] “show the world that America is not a banana republic where a government can be changed by conspiracy”
…but DC is certainly such a town.
For the sake of time .
So What!
What ya gonna do about it?!
If Spygate involved a girl and a cigar, everyone would pay attention. However, FISAS, 302’s, etc.
elicit big yawns from the relatively few who even hear about them. That is why the Washington establishment will have no qualms about covering all of this up. They know most of the country has no clue what is being covered up.
But it did feature golden showers. Notice how both scandals had that tinge of British Tabloid about them, seems like a popular method, maybe it suggests something about who was behind it?
First, we should thank Sara Carter for this revelation (Sept 1, 2020, http://www.SaraCarter.com).
Why the revelation now? Clinesmith talking? Or …
Under your “FIRST” breakdown, you write: “…a reasonable person who would believe such a critical file of underlying evidence would just go missing …”
But we’ve seen exactly this happen – routinely – with the Deep State & Democrats.
– Lois Lerner miraculously had multiple hard disks crash – mathematically impossible.
– HRC had a trail of PCs, phones, & blackberries destroyed, erased, and “bleach bit”.
– Anthony Weiner laptop missing?
– FBI / DOJ phones erased, reset, and some destroyed
– original Mike Flynn 302s still missing (2)
– multiple exculpatory documents not turned over to defense counsel Sidney Powell (Mike Flynn case)
– foot dragging on dozens of other documents; untold how many documents destroyed.
(- where is our NSA?)
I am still hoping Barr / Durham deliver, and that AG Barr isn’t a blowhard. Sessions & Huber just hid and did nothing.
Don’t forget Epstein…
pretty sure you meant https://saraacarter.com/
but the other site is pretty cool as well
This is like dressing up in your best formal, curling and dressing your hair and dabbing on perfume, knowing your dream date will be pulling up outside any minute. An hour passes, then another and another until the grandfather clock chimes midnight.
It just doesnt matter anymore. Our dream date is not coming. We may look and smell like Jayne Mansfield, but it’s only for the mirror.
It just doesnt matter anymore.
Of course it matters.
Sundance, you are brilliant, excellent research, I believe you are right.
But we need a “blue dress,” a piece of singular, positive evidence to gain the attention we need to make the case to the outside world.
Can you distill this out of the chain of events?
I thank you for all that you are doing.
I have long wondered how the discipline has been kept in a conspiracy involving such a large number of people, spread across so many governmental offices, branches, and private companies. Generally speaking, it is really hard to keep so many people in line! I am wondering if it might pay to identify someone whose finger is tenuous in the dike, and pass this information along to those you have briefed. We need a “blue dress” confessor person, methinks.
People frequently argue that you can’t have a huge conspiracy because there will always be someone who won’t be able to keep it a secret.
WRONG!
COVID-19 is a worldwide conspiracy involving health officials around the globe, Bill Gates,Fauci, Birx, the marxist director of the WHO, the crooked heads of the FDA and CDC, their staffs, doctors, nurses, hospital administrators, universities, university professors, marxists, anarchists, police, corporate CEOs, sleazy politicians, the MSM, etc. Literally 100’s of thousands or more are in on the conspiracy, in that they know that the pandemic and death counts are no justification for any of this.
There are millions of useful idiots that follow the conspirators blindly.
Many people have spoken the truth about the covid-19 fraud, but it has changed nothing. The powers that be, just ignore the truth and persecute those that speak the truth and call them conspiracy theorists.
The bigger the lie, apparently the easier it is to propagate.
Great analogy Joemama- nailed it. And we can see this being played out not just on ‘spygate’ or covid plandemic, but multiple other notorious examples such as global warming, population bomb, oil depletion and so many other examples.
And we have a clear understanding of why so many are deceived :
“because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.”
Massive worldwide deception going on spawned by the father of lies and his legion of fools doing his bidding – wide is the road that leads to their destruction.
Some, many or all involved in this coup attempt may escape justice in this world but be not deceived, God is not mocked and His judgment will come. And it is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
Praying Sundance keeps the pressure up on those who can do something about it.
Joemama:
They had one, they had swinesmith and barrjangles wrapped him in cotton wool and let him go.
Remember
Within JFK they killed the patsy
Then they killed the story.
Now
Today
They all write books.
Everyone has a book and goes on “cable news”.
“Cable News”
Yes. Dorothy Killganen was murdered to make the “story” go way. She knew who hired Ruby.
Yet again, SD’s exposure of the deep and broad governmental corruption in our country is grounded in facts, supported by high-order cognition, and reveals additional criminal intent demonstrated by the nation’s primary intelligence, investigative, and judicial entities.
Equally unfortunate as SD’s revelation is the high likelihood that no one who has followed the multi-year progress of this travesty is surprised.
But what if the CHS is paid by the political opponent and the Acting “president” (obama for [sic] America)
When the CHS is fired, is not the FBI/DOJ required to inform the FISA Court and review or remove the information? When he disclosed animus?
If this is the standard then there is no standard and FISA reauthorization should be blocked.
As a federal agent for 24 years (not FBI!), I’m absolutely amazed this flew. Equally amazing that numerous high ranking agents and attorneys didn’t question it or become whistleblowers. Appalling.
It flew because everybody was in on it. It was a conspiracy.
It would take a damn clever prosecutor to convince the jury it was not bureaucratic incompetence and finger pointing claimed by all the defendants. I am not sure DOJ has those kind of caliber lawyers that can win (or want to win) the case. Therein is the problem.
Exactly doyouseemyvision! Not sure why no upvotes but you nailed it – and I think most treepers DO see your vision and concur with your post.
So, was there a crime?
There was no Woods file because they expected Hillary to win and nothing would have ever been investigated.
I think that is what ultimately will undo them, if anything actually does.
All actions before the election were based on a premise that it would all be covered up. They didn’t need anything other than a shallow smokescreen of correct process.
They lost.
Everything after the election is mad CYA scrambling, especially the ‘transition’ period when they knew the gig was up but still had control over the clean-up.
The last act was the ‘by the book’ email then it was cross fingers and hope that everything was deleted, cleaned or covered up and the traps they managed to lay for the incoming team would be sprung, enough chaff and countermeasures were in place and a compliant and corrupt media would play their part.
Sadly, so far it has all worked a treat.
Quite so.
It is the old age adage, how do you investigate the investigators? People in control investigation their own, never works. The Deep State knew that there was all but zero prospects of being held to account, so long as the Deep State did, and controls, the investigation.
Very much like the Left’s ‘vote by mail’ gambit. They will create so much paper chaff flying around and deep state lawyers filing motions that the public will quickly be totally lost on trying to understand what the hell happened. Plus, if Trump would win, it establishes a foundational narrative to continue the un relenting attacks on him and America.
I’m dreaming, and hoping, that Barr and Durham know that after Labor Day people start paying much closer attention to Presidential politics. That would be the ideal time to outline the ‘whole story’ and then begin filing charges. Do it before October so it can’t be dismissed as an ‘October Surprise.’
FBI director Wray should then be forced to personally hand carry, from his office through Mayor Bowser’s D.C. after 11:00 P.M., all the documents that have been requested of the FBI through FOIA and Congressional committees over the last four years that have been stonewalled, lost, delayed, or redacted. He would also be required to carry a sign that that says; “Seth Richards Life Mattered.” If he runs into any difficulty he can try 911. All involved names should then be declassified, including those in Congress who furthered this travesty.
But then I woke up – gotta cut back on the late night snacks.
Barr and Durham could prevent all that you say if they would do the right thing. But if they don’t they are gonna own it, the fallout of all you described above will be on them .
The thing with Barr who himself said he was going to go into retirement, why the hell did he want to be AG? I never trusted him when he was before the senate answering questions, but to me it now seems clear as Gods’ bright sunshine, he wanted to fix his beloved institutions, no stain on them and fix it sweep shit under the yuge rug, and with his tough talk the citizens would believe he is the man to bring dark to light , expose corruption, the evil ones would be indicted and in jail. Haha, Barr wouldn’t dare or how else would his wife and Mulehead’s wife continue to go to Bible study together, drink tea, and he and Mulehead continue with their friendship and enjoy belonging to the cocktail parties for their ilk. I always say God sees all, if there is no justice now, I pray they all enjoy the lake of fire. God Bless PDJT General Flynn Sidney Powell. All I can pray for is Boze Sveti pomozi. Holy God help us.
The insurance policy discussion in August suggests that some pre-election actions were designed to continue the investigation after an unlikely Trump victory.
If the FBI and DOJ believe that a legitimate Sensitive Investigative Matter might be scuttled by an incoming administration, they can probably be forgiven for taking reasonable steps to ensure it will survive.
Durham’s investigation is in that position now. AG Barr has openly disclosed the existence of the inquiry, knowing full well a Biden/Harris administration would likely sweep it all under the rug if they could.
Barr’s DOJ and Wray’s FBI have done a pretty good job of getting sunlight on just enough information to keep us interested without the ugly taint of election tampering and without leaking classified information to the press.
Lynch and Comey, on the other hand, made a deal with the devil and lost control of their star “Confidential” Human Source because too many people were aware of the DNC/HRC provenance of the Steele “election-reporting” dossier. This darkness spread like spilled ink over the entire Obama administration. Their fingerprints are everywhere.
Despite the many disparaging remarks I’ve seen in this blog and elsewhere, I believe that the Rule of Law must prevail regardless of where we are in the election cycle. The fact that there have been no leaks and no indictments leading up to the election in November gives me confidence that the DOJ/FBI under Barr and Wray are striving to correct the mistakes of their predecessors.
The legal process is in place and should not be rushed by politics (or riots) to accomplish a predetermined outcome. The same holds true for the process that continues to play out in the District Court with Gen. Flynn. The truth abhors darkness but it has no timeline for finding the light.
And, thankfully, the outcome of the election will be based upon the merits of the candidates and their starkly contrasting visions of America, not a corrupt investigation promoted by an elite cabal of career politicians and bureaucrats that think they are above the law.
Hope you right, gotta say it sounds good though
Not arguing against what Sundance says, and have never read the steele BS, and don’t even know if it has been published in full.
My question is was Carter Page ever mentioned in it ?
shipwreckedcrew hardest hit.
Good work Sundance. The “smart set lawyers” are off staring at the bark in an obscure tree on an outer region of a forest, and insulting us for pointing out how silly they are. Here, you strip away all the deadwood and point to the heart of the matter: the FBI/DOJ is a criminal organization who’s head, weissman is a goddamned liar.
God bless you.
You will read this expose of Weissman lying about the Woods file only here. Sundance has done an incredible job digging it out. But this hidden information is not unknown information. The DOJ/FBI criminal enterprise has acted as if they are unaware, but they are not. Barr knows this. Wray knows this. They just are not talking about it. Barr/Wray intend to do exactly NOTHING about this.
Here is how all these bad players escape justice: Recall the Watergate period. Do you remember the phrase “dirty tricks”? How does one prosecute another for doing “dirty tricks’?
Within that simple phrase one can easily “skate away” into the sunset. Dirty tricks are not necessarily against the law, they live in the grey area of the law.
And how many of our players–those who created/ordered/did the dirty tricks, have been educated at a law school? How many have asked practicing lawyers (quietly, of course!) if their dirty tricks can be considered a legal violation, either before the trick is executed or after it takes place? Or, how to avoid a legal quagmire if employing a dirty trick?
Who doesn’t like playing the role of a “trickster”? Recall how Barr came out and said Obama, etc. are not targets.
Is that Barr’s dirty trick?
“There never was a Woods File.”
That’s what I tho’t! We have hired a bunch of criminals who think paperwork and backups and procedures and laws do not apply them them. They have “higher powers”.
AND……………………………. They never tho’t they’d get caught! Spying on everyone under the suns, persecuting and blackmailing them hasn’t stopped them yet. They have all sorts of insurance policies they have deployed using the power of the U.S. gubt against us deplorables..
Thanks Sundance. Ever article you write exposes the corruption in the Justice Departments as well as other alphabet agencies of a very corrupt den of sick individuals.
IMHO, it also exposes the mindset of the Bush Administrations and the administrations that followed until President Trump became President! From that stench, through a Funeral came the latest “Don” to protect the swamp at all cost! Under the lies from Bagpipes to rebuild the FBI by selecting Durham for the coverup! Old Circus quote, “a sucker born everyday”
“If I had not intervened there would be nobody left”! All in due time they will be able to keep it hidden but will be allowed to totally destroy themselves! Seen the DNC, Roberts or China lately?
Seventh – There never was a Woods file because Lisa Page admitted that herself. IIRC buried somewhere in Lisa Page’s testimony is her statement that they didn’t actually have a Woods File, they had a “Woods like” document accompanying the FISA application. This “Woods like” document was most likely the spreadsheet that contained specific allegations found in the Steele information and the result of the FBI’s investigative efforts to corroborate that information. They used the technicality of a CHS providing the information to avoid creating a true Woods file because FBI procedures allowed them to. Hey, if you’re doing it ‘by the book’ and the book says you can get away with it, why not?
It’s been so long ago that I don’t remember who reported on it or where I read it, but wasn’t it true that about 80% of the leads contained in the spreadsheet ie the Woods File, that they followed up on where found to be inaccurate or patently false? Strzok’s recent interview highlights the difficulty they had in verifying the information (simply because it wasn’t true), but that little fact didn’t stop them because they were absolutely positively convinced that if they looked long enough and hard enough they’d find something.
Sundance is right, there was no Woods file because they didn’t need one. As far as I know no one that’s been asked about verifying or signing off on the Woods file has ever admitted to actually even seeing one with the FISA application. They didn’t sign off on it because it didn’t exist, the spreadsheet took the place of the Woods file.
I know the ending, so here it is in a nutshell:
Barr holds a press conference. He says “….there were weak procedures in place, which enabled some people to take their political animus, using it to hinder the Trump administration. This should never happen to any President. I have put into place new procedures to keep this from happening again. While there were actions taken that could merit prosecution, the likelihood of a conviction for such complicated matters is low. However, we are announcing indictments against a junior associate of Clinesmith and a law clerk at the FBI. I am confident this type of horrible action will not happen again.”
He will go on to thank the many tireless investigators who did such a wonderful job for our nation.
Sadly, every gatekeeper is compromised. They knew Barr wasn’t “dirty, per se”, but knew he valued his precious institutions over and above justice.
Barr to President Trump and to all of America: “Forget it Jake, it’s Chinatown”.
I think this is what the situation is in Mike Flynn’s case as well.
IF I have managed to keep up with everything, Sidney has never rec’d the 302s either. They never existed. The have tried to recreate them as well, unsuccessfully.
Reminder: Brandon Van Grack, who hid evidence in the Flynn case, is now
Chief at Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA) Unit, U.S. Department of Justice, per Linkedin.
Notably, Van Grack’s job was counsel to John Carlin in the DOJ’s NSD division, during the relevant period when NSD was deceiving the FISA court about unauthorized access to data.
I can’t believe he hasn’t been sequestered in a small room with no outside communications. Hello, AG Barr? Are you there?
Carnac The Magnificent –
A: “Absolutely nobody.“
Q: “Who is going to be held responsible for the past and ongoing coup attempt against the President of the United States of America?”
Hypothetically, let’s say there are 50,000 employees in Gov. just in DC. Can anyone name more than 25 who are not crooked? If these numbers are even close it equals 0.0005%. Now you can see what our President is up against. Tear it all down!
Bottom line (and it truly sucks):
Everyone will be able to say that they did nothing wrong; it was the system’s fault. Fix the system and all will be swell in the universe. Durham will probably end up with a finding of lots of abuse of power, but nothing to charge anyone with and some recommendations for prettying up the system. The only lose end remaining is Flynn and then it will all seem like a mess that everyone just wants to forget.
It well and truly sucks.
Another example of one of those “systematic” instances that’s been floating around the news recently. The “System” was corrupt and they were prevented from doing the right thing. I’d bet a lot of people are going to get a letter in their file, or maybe even a good strong “talkin’ to” after all of this.
The problem with Barr-zini is not his in-action, but according to Tom Fitton and Sydney Powell his DOJ is working against them in their respective cases. So the fact that we have seen virtually no results from Durham should be no surprise. Barr-zini was brought out retirement to smooth over the many loose ends in the coup. Much like the corrupt Wray Mueller were brought out of retirement.
Why does his DOJ not file injunctions against the various blue states sending out mail in ballots instead of crying to Wolf Blitzer?
The major problem We The People have now is Barr-zini pulling a Comey and saying before the election or his firing “the evidence we have accumulated during the Durham investigation will not be enough to convince a jury of wrong doing.”