Jumpin’ Ju-Ju Bones, Senator Lindsey Graham is Making Sense Again: “This is J Edgar Hoover Stuff”…

Sweet baby Jesus, Senator Lindsey Graham must be thinking about his reelection again because he’s back to making sense mode.  In this interview Senator Graham discusses the second scope memo (August 2, 2017) and actually uses a timeline to outline how the Mueller investigation itself was based on a fraud.  [OUTLINED HERE]

Graham then says today’s declassified scope memo was given to him for release by AG Bill Barr… and… and… you ain’t gonna believe this, but Graham actually, finally, notes the FBI letter to the FISA court on July 12th, 2018, was based on a lie. [OUTLINED HERE]

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Last month – Amid a series of documents released by the Senate Judiciary Committee [SEE HERE] there is a rather alarming letter from the DOJ to the FISA Court in July 2018 that points toward an institutional cover-up.   [Link to Letter]

Keep in mind that prior to this release only the FISA court had seen this letter from the DOJ-National Security Division (DOJ-NSD).  As we walk through the alarming content of this letter I think you’ll identify the motive behind the FISC order to release it.

First, the letter in question was sent by the DOJ-NSD to the FISA Court on July 12, 2018.  It is critical to keep the date of the letter in mind as we review the content.

Aside from the date the important part of the first page is the motive for sending it.

The DOJ and FBI are telling the FISA court in July 2018: based on what they know the FISA application still contains “sufficient predication for the Court to have found probable cause” to approve the application.

The DOJ is defending the Carter Page FISA application as still valid in July 2018.

However, it is within the justification of the application that alarm bells are found. On page six the letter identifies the primary participants behind the FISA redactions:

As you can see: Christopher Steele is noted as “Source #1”.  Glenn Simpson of Fusion-GPS is noted as “identified U.S. person” or “business associate”; and Perkins Coie is the “U.S-based law firm.”

Now things get very interesting.

On page #8 when discussing Christopher Steele’s sub-source, the DOJ notes the FBI found him to be truthful and cooperative.

This is an incredibly misleading statement to the FISA court because what the letter doesn’t say is that 18-months earlier the sub-source, also known in the IG report as the “primary sub-source”, informed the FBI that the material attributed to him in the dossier was essentially junk.

Let’s look at how the IG report frames the primary sub-source, and specifically notice the FBI contact and questioning took place in January 2017 (we now know that date to be January 12, 2017):

Those interviews with Steele’s primary sub-source took place in January, March and May of 2017; and clearly the sub-source debunked the content of the dossier itself.

Those interviews were 18-months, 16-months and 14-months ahead of the July 2018 DOJ letter to the FISC.   The DOJ-NSD says the sub-source was “truthful and cooperative” but the DOJ doesn’t tell the court the content of the truthfulness and cooperation.  Why?

Keep in mind this letter to the court was written by AAG John Demers in July 2018.  Jeff Sessions was Attorney General, Rod Rosenstein was Deputy AG; Christopher Wray was FBI Director, David Bowditch is Deputy, and Dana Boente is FBI chief-legal-counsel.

Why would the DOJ-NSD not be forthcoming with the FISA court about the primary sub-source?  This level of disingenuous withholding of information speaks to an institutional motive.

By July 2018 the DOJ clearly knew the dossier was full of fabrications, yet they withheld that information from the court and said the predicate was still valid.  Why?

It doesn’t take a deep-weeds-walker to identify the DOJ motive.

In July 2018 Robert Mueller’s investigation was at its apex.

This letter justifying the application and claiming the current information would still be a valid predicate therein, speaks to the 2018 DOJ needing to retain the validity of the FISA warrant…. My research suspicion is that the DOJ needed to protect evidence Mueller had already extracted from the fraudulent FISA authority.  That’s the motive.

In July 2018 if the DOJ-NSD had admitted the FISA application and all renewals were fatally flawed Robert Mueller would have needed to withdraw any evidence gathered as a result of its exploitation.  The DOJ in 2018 was protecting Mueller’s poisoned fruit.

If the DOJ had been honest with the court, there’s a strong possibility some, perhaps much, of Mueller evidence gathering would have been invalidated… and cases were pending.  The solution: mislead the court and claim the predication was still valid.

This is not simply a hunch, because that motive also speaks to why the FISC would order the current DOJ to release the letter.

Remember, in December the FISC received the IG Horowitz report; and they would have immediately noted the disparity between what IG Horowitz outlined about the FBI investigating Steele’s sub-source, as contrast against what the DOJ told them in July 2018.

The DOJ letter is a transparent misrepresentation when compared to the information in the Horowitz report. Hence, the court orders the DOJ to release the July letter so that everyone, including congressional oversight and the public can see the misrepresentation.

The court was misled; now everyone can see it.

The content of that DOJ-NSD letter, and the subsequent disparity, points to an institutional cover-up; and as a consequence the FISC also ordered the DOJ to begin an immediate sequestration effort to find all the evidence from the fraudulent FISA application.  The proverbial fruit from the poisonous tree…. And yes, that is ongoing.

Moving on…

Two more big misstatements within the July letter appear on page #9.  The first is the DOJ claiming that only after the application was filed did they become aware of Christopher Steele working for Fusion-GPS and knowing his intent was to create opposition research for the Hillary Clinton campaign.  See the top of the page.

According to the DOJ-NSD claim the number four ranking official in the DOJ, Bruce Ohr, never told them he was acting as a conduit for Christopher Steele to the FBI.   While that claim is hard to believe, in essence what the DOJ-NSD is saying in that paragraph is that the FBI hoodwinked the DOJ-NSD by not telling them where the information for the FISA application was coming from.  The DOJ, via John Demers, is blaming the FBI.

The second statement, equally as incredulous, is at the bottom of page nine where the DOJ claims they had no idea Bruce Ohr was talking to the FBI throughout the entire time any of the FISA applications were being submitted.  October 2016 through June 2017.

In essence the claim there is that Bruce Ohr was working with the FBI and never told anyone in the DOJ throughout 2016 and all the way past June 29th of 2017.  That denial seems rather unlikely; however, once again the DOJ-NSD is putting the FBI in the crosshairs and claiming they knew nothing about the information pipeline.

Bruce Ohr, whose wife was working for Fusion-GPS and assisting Christopher Steele with information, was interviewed by the FBI over a dozen times as he communicated with Steele and fed his information to the FBI.  Yet the DOJ claims they knew nothing about it.

Again, just keep in mind this claim by the DOJ-NSD is being made in July 2018, six months after Bruce Ohr was demoted twice (December 2017 and January 2018).  If what the DOJ is saying is true, well, the FBI was completely off-the-rails and rogue.

Neither option speaks well about the integrity of either institution; and quite frankly I don’t buy the DOJ-NSD spin.  Why?  The reason is simple, the DOJ is claiming in the letter the predication was still valid… if the DOJ-NSD genuinely didn’t know about the FBI manipulation, they would be informing the court in 2018 the DOJ no longer supported the FISA application due to new information.  They did not do that.  Instead, in July 2018, they specifically told the court the predicate was valid, yet the DOJ-NSD knew it was not.

The last point about the July 2018 letter is perhaps the most jarring.  Again, keep in mind when it was written Chris Wray is FBI Director, David Bowditch is Deputy and Dana Boente is FBI chief legal counsel.

Their own FBI reports, by three different INSD and IG investigations; had turned up seriously alarming evidence going back to the early 2017 time-frame; the results of which ultimately led to the DC FBI office losing all of their top officials; and knowing the letter itself was full of misleading and false information about FBI knowledge in/around Christopher Steele; this particular sentence is alarming:

“The FBI has reviewed this letter and confirmed its factual accuracy?”

Really?

As we have just shared, the July 2018 letter itself is filled with factual inaccuracies, misstatements and intentional omissions.  So who exactly did the “reviewing”?

This declassification release raises more questions than any other in recent memory.  Perhaps AG Bill Barr will now start asking some rather hard questions to FBI Director Christopher Wray…. and DAG Rod Rosenstein.

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398 Responses to Jumpin’ Ju-Ju Bones, Senator Lindsey Graham is Making Sense Again: “This is J Edgar Hoover Stuff”…

  1. theasdgamer says:

    The paradigm for Graham is Lucy, Charlie Brown, and the football.

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    • Anonymoushorse says:

      Graham may be functioning as a ‘white hat sleeper’, acting all wimpy and useless until, at the appropriate moment he transforms into The Kraken.

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      • phaedrus cj says:

        Nope The appropriate moment to do the right thing is to do it at the moment you know what the right thing to do is.

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        • John Obidienzo says:

          Graham is really good when “The Club” draws the line and declares,”Here We Shall Stand!”as he did with Kavanaugh. Otherwise he’s out there just surfing the wind.

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          • Bert Darrell says:

            “… surfing the wind” while counting how much money is left from the kickbacks he had received from the Ukrainians -along with his former mentor and head ruffian John McCain- for which both received state medals from the grateful dictator who had received his own “cut” and was duly complying with the previously arranged money laundering plan.

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        • sturmudgeon says:

          phaedrus cj: EXACTLY!

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      • If wimpy and useless is an act, he deserves an Oscar!!

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        • Chip Doctor says:

          Man is known by the company he keeps. McCain was a traitor. Lindsay Graham is a snake in the grass. A total Swamp rat. Always was, always will be.

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      • Dwayne Diesel says:

        He aint turning into no Kraken…a slug maybe, a slug surrounded by a circle of salt. He’s just trying to figure the safest way across that salt circle…….

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      • PatrickS says:

        At first glance I read that as “…transforms into the Karen.” Makes sense both ways I guess.

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      • theasdgamer says:

        Graham has been “sleeping” for three decades now.

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      • Amy2 says:

        If he hasn’t had a “Kraken” moment by now, I don’t think he every will. His MO is to say he’s going to do something about something, do nothing, then ride in on the coattails of whoever DID.

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      • James Strates says:

        Is that you Lindsey ?

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      • Mr. Morris says:

        Lindsay Graham did transform into the “kraken” when he demanded the appointment of a special independent committee to look into Donald Trump and Russian interference in the 2016 election, and then demanded and received a Senate vote that the special committee headed, in name only by Robert Mueller, should not be fired.
        Of course Lindsay Graham knew of the nefarious dealing of his long time friend John McCain who attempted to derail the Trump campaign and later the Presidency of Donald Trump. Of course he knew McCain was working with Hillary, the DNC, and the spy agencies to torpedo Trump. Lindsay is not a dumb man.

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    • berniekopell says:

      Exactly. He said he was going to hold hearings, yet again. Lyndsey = big bad wolf, with no bite. He will huff and puff and blow the little piggies house down. Wake me up when that part actually happens (the FISA abuse hearing part, not the blowing).

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    • SUBVET says:

      Don’t forget ms. lindsey’s sidekick….”hot start”….both part of the swamp..

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  2. Somebody's Gramma says:

    This is like a really bad divorce (as shown on TV), where the two sides battle it out over the years with very expensive lawyers, slinging mud, making up outrageous claims, to appear innocent or to defend honor or to protect a share of the “estate”. And in this case, it’s also a custody battle over We the People. At some point, both sides “settle”, but what happens to We the People? I think we’re of age, as they say. I think we can divorce the parents (the government) and simply carry around our legal agreement (the Constitution and Bill of Rights) and completely ignore the government. I’m done. The swamp is so deep and so wide, and they think nothing of robbing us of millions of dollars every day. While some here in the treehouse propose marches, I propose non-compliance en masse. I wish I were a Constitutional lawyer and could find a way for We the People to immediately fire the entire government, federal, state, and local and retain only “essential services” SUCH AS, those armed services to protect us from foreign threats WHILE WE SORT this all out. Local vigilantes would serve us well during this process – at least in the Red states. Then, we spend 6 months (no more) having our own local town halls where citizens make the case for who should represent us, with NO ADVERTISING, NO SUPER PACS, NO FUND RAISING, NO INFLUENCE CAMPAIGNS. I know, it sounds like I’m talking about elections. As it stands right now, our elections are just a series of “leveraged positions” with millions pumped into it. Somehow, we need to START OVER.
    Burn.It.All.Down

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  3. ccrabill says:

    Graham is a slimy little weasel. McCain’s pathetic little side kick. I appreciate when he has spoken out – but make no mistake, it’s all about saving his own skin.

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    • kris2025 says:

      Don’t trust Lindsey. The guy is secretly hoping Biden wins. Be very careful of this guy. He’s gone from introducing Senate legislation to protect Mueller investigation so he cannot fired to calling the whole thing illegitimate. What changed? He had same info then and now. Be very careful about this guy – I smell a rat.

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  4. John says:

    Golly! It appears that a few mistakes were made by the FIB and the DOJ.
    There are going to be some serious letters of reprimand sent to some personnel files.
    Time to move on and put this silly stuff behind us.

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  5. Margaret Berger says:

    Ccrabill, I will go you one better. Graham was in it up to his eyeballs and is trying to survive as long as he can praying that a miracle (Trump loses) will save his sorry butt.

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  6. McCain haunts Lindsey .. some days worse than others

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  7. Margaret Epstein says:

    She is a shill for the plutocracy / the oligarchy / the Deep State, and only makes the right noises when elections are approaching. Her electorate needs to kick her out; she does not represent the rank and file public or its interests. Jettison her and elect something with testicles.

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  8. revarmegeddontthunderbird says:

    They’re running scared now. Miss Lyndsey Graham Cracker is threatening hearings again that he will never have. Lyndsey is a career fence straddler walking the rail until he sees an opportunity and then jumping off the fence to the side at the time that is best for him. Then he’ll get back on the fence rail again until he sees another side to pretend to take. Eventually he’s going to slip, like all fence straddlers do and bust his balls…..if he has any.

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    • Alephnull says:

      President Trump knows Graham is a weasel. I think he “trusts” Graham because of the old adage.
      “Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer.”

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    • Reggie says:

      You nailed it. The media needs another spokesperson and eliminate the self-serving Graham. Sick of him.

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  9. HB says:

    “I didn’t know.”

    Lindsay didn’t know because he cared not to know.

    But the Senator’s actions and interviews are like plucking grass to check the wind direction. Maybe things will swing our way with increasing speed.

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  10. Nikola Ivan Babic says:

    THE COURT RECIEVED INSUFFICENTLY CANDID INFORMATION.

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  11. T2020 says:

    He’s so FOS. He’s neither hot nor cold, but lukewarm…

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  12. Gunner says:

    Important story? Yes. Painting this windbag as playing a positive role in it? No…a total waste of time and ink! He’s the personification of deep state politics, and a walking advertisement for term limits.

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  13. Richie says:

    Grahamnesty pretending not to know anything. tick tock run out the clock mission accomplished

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  14. Elle says:

    On the second document shown above, the last line of the first paragraph (regarding source # 1 Steele) says “it is common in Fisc applications not to identify by name human sources or other non targets”

    No need to add “or other non targets” there but… ok whatever …so he’s a human source but he’s not one …. everything they do is so nonsensical….

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  15. willthesuevi says:

    Careful Lindsey. You are dangerously close to actually accomplishing one of your hollow promises to the camera.

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  16. Dr Franklin says:

    In Mexico they have what is known as the manana culture. Manana doesn’t mean tomorrow, it just means not today. Senorita Graham is always going to do something manana.

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  17. James Strates says:

    Is that you Lindsey ?

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  18. Bonitabaycane says:

    Sorry, but I have no use for Lindsey Graham.

    He is all talk, no action…..

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  19. mugzey302 says:

    Let’s just repeal the Patriot Act ~ not that J. Edgar Hoover needed it to spy on American citizens he didn’t like. The IC took out Kennedy and have tried to do the same to Trump on multiple levels. We need to burn down the house.

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  20. thomas says:

    I can say a lot of words also but he actually has power to not just say things to do things… Let me know when he does that..

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  21. Revelation says:

    Lindsay is still smarting from being taken to the woodshed by Maria B.

    The butthurt is evident.

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  22. Chilidog says:

    We play a drinking game at my house when Graham is on TV. It’s very simple. You have to drink any time Graham writes a letter, threatens to have hearings, or vows “to get to the bottom of it.” I got hammered last night.

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  23. I think Lindsey was compromised early on by being one of GOP rival candidates that initially used Fusion GPS. Hillary may be blackmailing him. Graham may have been in on the corruption in Ukraine. Again crooked Hillary may be blackmailing him. Trey Gowdy supported Grahmn also. maybe Trey can only go so far.

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  24. MAGA Scoop says:

    This could NEVER have been started except with the explicit help of…… JEFF SESSIONS!

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  25. harleyd says:

    I’m ashamed to say I used to trust this chameleon. And in saying that I apologize to well meaning chameleons.

    In fact, I went out of my way to find his interviews and virtually hung on his every word. I thought once he was no longer under the spell of McCain he would come forward and lead the charge toward truth.

    Shame on me.

    I believe he is worse than a Swamper. At lease Swamp creatures are consistent in their treasonous behavior.

    Lindsey plays both sides, sometimes in the same sentence.

    No one who wants this swamp drained, and the swamp creatures brought to justice, should even look at or listen to this bottom feeder again.

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  26. hokkoda says:

    Holy shit!

    Mueller prosecutor withdraws from Flynn case after questions surface concerning his compliance with court order

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mueller-prosecutor-removed-from-flynn-case-after-questions-surface-concerning-his-compliance-with-court-order

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  27. Mr e-man says:

    July 2018 was too soon to end the investigation. They had to use the investigation to steal the midterm elections. If they could continue to lie to the public about Trump being a Putin stooge and Russia stealing the election for Trump, the public wold easily vote for a Democrat led House to be able to investigate Trump. If Republicans were in charge, they would let Trump get away with it.

    So first, they tried to influence the 2016 election, when that failed, they tried to completely undermine the new administration so he would not be effective at implementing any Republican policies, even though the R’s held all 3 branches. When that wasn’t working due to Trumps effective leadership, they had to steal the midterm elections. From there, they almost succeeded in removing him from office but certainly thwarted his ability to govern, to pick SC justices, and to conduct foreign policy, at every turn.

    Most people would have wilted under that pressure but Trump stood strong and withstood it. Now they are trying to delay the truth past Nov 2020 so they can try to steal that election too. With the slow pace of accountability and the help of the corrupt media, they are almost there.

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  28. TwoLaine says:

    Rush is butchering the story right now.

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  29. cocamars says:

    AP Exclusive: Justice Dept dropping Flynn’s criminal case

    https://apnews.com/ae1ad252bb13490db2ceffc5d17b6d92

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  30. dawg says:

    Look! Squirrel!

    Textbook distraction stuff going on here, trying to keep us placated by suggesting new developments and that something is happening on that front. Throw someone the F in jail and maybe Ill pay attention.

    McConnell acting like he just found out Russiagate was a conspiracy against Trump.

    None of this is “news”.

    Meanwhile, the CDC is chiming in on “mail-in-voting”. The CDC!!!!!!

    If we take our eye off the ball right now, they are going to STEAL 2020 and this country is officially DONE.

    I cant believe Im saying this but at this point, the administration and the DOJ better put ALL that noise on the back burner, and focus on the current attempted takeover of this country, the suspension of our fundamental God-given rights so that we can have a fair election.

    We have to stop mail-in-voting dead in its tracks and get a handle on voter fraud.

    Then, once we win, PT will have free reign to burn it all down.

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  31. Jeffrey Coley says:

    Oh, yay, Lindsey went on TV and said some stuff. Again. Anything more to come, or just another viral video to be passed around?

    Magic 8 Ball says, “Ask again later.”

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  32. Slowkid says:

    Like my pa used to say. Full of gas no go.

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  33. ChampagneReady says:

    Graham is the little boy who yelled Wolf.

    I’ve heard so many “gonna’s” from him that I just roll my eyes now and ignore him. He’s an insult to the title of Judiciary Committee Chairman.

    I don’t even watch him when he’s on spewing his wash-rinse-repeat pablum with Maria Bartiromo anymore. Which is constantly ! He makes me long for the good ole days of Chuck Grassley.

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  34. Eric W. says:

    Lindsey Graham is like Lex Luthor in the Superman movie. Only when it is clear that Superman has defeated the bad guys does Luthor try and convince Superman that he was working with him all along! Just like in the Kavanaugh situation, Graham didn’t lift a finger to help until he realized Kavanaugh was not going anywhere and would fight it all the way. That’s when we got the “heroic” speech by Senator Graham coming to save the day. What a putz.

    Eric W.

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  35. WDS says:

    Meanwhile in the real world 1 “Oh Sh*t” still cancels 1000 “Atta’ Boys” not the other way around.
    2.Zero has nearly 2 decades of aiding & abetting the left to answer for…..

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  36. Gnerd Phynque says:

    Nothing Lindsey Graham does ever makes sense. The man is a phoney!!

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