DOJ Political Surveillance – From the IRS in 2011 to the FISA Court in 2016…

An assembly of government reports and public records now indicates a political exploitation of the NSA database, for weaponized intelligence surveillance of politicians, began mid 2012.  After an initial attempt to exploit IRS records, the legal tool used to access the NSA database was the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, or FISA.

With research files on the ’15, ’16 and ’17 political surveillance program; including information from the Mueller report and information from the IG Horowitz report; in combination with the Obama-era DOJ “secret research project” (their words, not mine); we are able to overlay the Obama-era domestic IC operations & gain a full understanding of how political surveillance was conducted over a period of four to six years.

The FISA-702 database extraction process, and utilization of the protections within the smaller intelligence community, became the primary process only after a previous DOJ effort ran into trouble. The established record from the 99-page FISC opinion rendered by Presiding Judge Rosemary Collyer on April 26, 2017, helps explain the details.

I would strongly urge everyone to read the FISC report (full pdf below) because Judge Collyer outlines how the DOJ, which includes the FBI, had an “institutional lack of candor” in responses to the FISA court.  Very specifically, the court outlined how the Obama administration was continually lying to the court about both their activity, and the rate of fourth amendment violations for illegal searches and seizures of U.S. persons’ private information. These violations continued for multiple years throughout Obama’s terms.

Unfortunately, due to intelligence terminology Judge Collyer’s brief and ruling is not an easy read for anyone unfamiliar with the FISA processes outlined. The complexity also helps the media avoid discussing, and as a result most Americans have no idea the scale and scope of the issues. So we’ll try to break down the language.


For the sake of brevity and common understanding CTH will highlight the most pertinent segments showing just how systemic and troublesome the unlawful electronic surveillance was.

Early in 2016 NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers was alerted of a significant uptick in FISA-702(17) “About” queries using the FBI/NSA database that holds all metadata records on every form of electronic communication.

The NSA compliance officer alerted Admiral Mike Rogers who then initiated a full compliance audit on/around March 9th, 2016, for the period of November 1st, 2015, through May 1st, 2016.

While the audit was ongoing, due to the severity of the results that were identified, Admiral Mike Rogers stopped anyone from using the 702(17) “about query” option, and went to the extraordinary step of blocking all FBI contractor access to the database on April 18, 2016 (keep these dates in mind).

Here are some significant segments:

The key takeaway from these first paragraphs is how the search query results were exported from the NSA database to users who were not authorized to see the material. The FBI contractors were conducting searches and then removing, or ‘exporting’, the results. Later on, the FBI said all of the exported material was deleted.

Searching the highly classified NSA database is essentially a function of filling out search boxes to identify the user-initiated search parameter and get a return on the search result.

FISA-702(16) is a search of the system returning a U.S. person (“702”); and the “16” is a check box to initiate a search based on “To and From“. Example, if you put in a date and a phone number and check “16” as the search parameter the user will get the returns on everything “To and From” that identified phone number for the specific date. Calls, texts, contacts etc. Including results for the inbound and outbound contacts.

FISA-702(17) is a search of the system returning a U.S. person (702); and the “17” is a check box to initiate a search based on everything “About” the search qualifier. Example, if you put a date and a phone number and check “17” as the search parameter the user will get the returns of everything about that phone. Calls, texts, contacts, geolocation (or gps results), account information, user, service provider etc. As a result, 702(17) can actually be used to locate where the phone (and user) was located on a specific date or sequentially over a specific period of time which is simply a matter of changing the date parameters.

And that’s just from a phone number.

Search an ip address “about” and read all data into that server; put in an email address and gain everything about that account. Or use the electronic address of a GPS enabled vehicle (about) and you can withdraw more electronic data and monitor in real time. Search a credit card number and get everything about the account including what was purchased, where, when, etc. Search a bank account number, get everything about transactions and electronic records etc. Just about anything and everything can be electronically searched; everything has an electronic ‘identifier’.

The search parameter is only limited by the originating field filled out. Names, places, numbers, addresses, etc. By using the “About” parameter there may be thousands or millions of returns. Imagine if you put “@realdonaldtrump” into the search parameter? You could extract all following accounts who interacted on Twitter, or Facebook etc. You are only limited by your imagination and the scale of the electronic connectivity.

As you can see below, on March 9th, 2016, internal auditors noted the FBI was sharing “raw FISA information, including but not limited to Section 702-acquired information”.

In plain English the raw search returns were being shared with unknown entities without any attempt to “minimize” or redact the results. The person(s) attached to the results were named and obvious. There was no effort to hide their identity or protect their 4th amendment rights of privacy:

But what’s the scale here? This is where the story really lies.

Read this next excerpt carefully.

The operators were searching “U.S Persons”. The review of November 1, 2015, to May 1, 2016, showed “eighty-five percent of those queries” were unlawful or “non compliant”.

85% !! “representing [redacted number]”.

We can tell from the space of the redaction the number of searches were between 1,000 and 9,999 [five digits]. If we take the middle number of 5,000 – that means 4,250 unlawful searches out of 5,000.

The [five digit] amount (more than 1,000, less than 10,000), and 85% error rate, was captured in a six month period, November 2015 to April 2016.

Also notice this very important quote:

…”many of these non-compliant queries involved the use of the same identifiers over different date ranges.”…

This tells us the system users were searching the same phone number, email address, electronic “identifier”, or people, repeatedly over different dates.

Specific people were being tracked/monitored.

Additionally, notice the last quote: “while the government reports it is unable to provide a reliable estimate of” these non lawful searches “since 2012, there is no apparent reason to believe the November 2015 [to] April 2016 coincided with an unusually high error rate”.

That means the 85% rate of unlawful FISA-702(16)(17) database abuse has likely been happening since 2012.

2012 is an important date in this database abuse because a network of specific interests is assembled that also shows up in 2016/2017:

  • Who was 2012 FBI Director? Robert Mueller.  The same Mueller selected by the FBI group to become special prosecutor in 2017.
  • Who was Robert Mueller’ chief-of-staff? Aaron Zebley.  The same Aaron Zelbley, who became one of the lead lawyers on the Mueller special counsel.
  • Who was 2012 2012 CIA Director? John Brennan.
  • Who was the 2012 ODNI? James Clapper.
  • Remember, the NSA is inside the Pentagon (Defense Dept) command structure. Who was Defense Secretary? Ash Carter.

Now it becomes important to remember in 2016:

  • Who wanted NSA Director Mike Rogers fired? Brennan, Clapper and Carter.
  • And finally, who wrote and signed-off-on the January 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment and then lied about the use of the Steele Dossier? John Brennan, James Clapper

Tens of thousands of searches over four years (since 2012), and 85% of them are illegal. The results were extracted for?…. (I believe this is all political opposition use; and I’ll explain why momentarily.)

OK, that’s the stunning scale; but who was involved?

Private contractors with access to “raw FISA information that went well beyond what was necessary to respond to FBI’s requests“:

And as noted, the contractor access was finally halted on April 18th, 2016.

[Coincidentally (or not), the wife of Fusion-GPS founder Glenn Simpson, Mary Jacoby, goes to the White House the next day on April 19th, 2016.]

None of this is conspiracy theory.

All of this is laid out inside this 99-page opinion from FISC Presiding Judge Rosemary Collyer who also noted that none of this FISA abuse was accidental in a footnote on page 87: “deliberate decisionmaking“:

This specific footnote, if declassified, would be key. Note the phrase: “([redacted] access to FBI systems was the subject of an interagency memorandum of understanding entered into [redacted])”, this sentence has the potential to expose an internal decision; withheld from congress and the FISA court by the Obama administration; that outlines a process for access and distribution of surveillance data.

Note also: “no notice of this practice was given to the FISC until 2016“, that is important.

Important summary of this aspect: •The FISA court identified and quantified tens-of-thousands of search queries of the NSA/FBI database using the FISA-702(16)(17) system dating back to around 2012.  •The NSA database was repeatedly used by persons with contractor access who unlawfully searched and extracted the raw results without redacting the information and shared it with an unknown number of entities. •The same people had multiple searches performed against their private information from November of 2015 to May of 2016, the exact time of the Republican presidential primary.

The outlined process certainly points toward a political spying and surveillance operation; and we are not the only one to think that’s what this system is being used for.

Back in 2017 when House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes was working to reauthorize the FISA legislation, Nunes wrote a letter to ODNI Dan Coats about this specific issue:

SIDEBAR: To solve the issue, well, actually attempt to ensure it never happened again, NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers eventually took away the “About” query option permanently in 2017. NSA Director Rogers said the abuse was so inherent there was no way to stop it except to remove the process completely. [SEE HERE] Additionally, the NSA database operates as a function of the Pentagon, so the Trump administration went one step further. On his last day as NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers -together with ODNI Dan Coats- put U.S. cyber-command, the database steward, fully into the U.S. military as a full combatant command. [SEE HERE] Unfortunately it didn’t work as shown by the 2018 FISC opinion rendered by FISC Judge James Boasberg [SEE HERE]

There is little doubt the FISA-702(16)(17) database system was used by Obama-era officials, from 2012 through April 2016, as a way to spy on their political opposition.

Quite simply there is no other intellectually honest explanation for the scale and volume of database abuse that was taking place; and keep in mind these searches were all ruled to be unlawful. Searches for repeated persons over a period time that were not authorized.

When we reconcile what was taking place and who was involved, then the actions of the exact same principle participants take on a jaw-dropping amount of clarity.

All of the action taken by CIA Director Brennan, FBI Director Comey, ODNI Clapper and Defense Secretary Ashton Carter make sense. Including their effort to get NSA Director Mike Rogers fired.

Everything after March 9th, 2016, had a dual purpose: (1) done to cover up the weaponization of the FISA database. [Explained Here] Spygate, Russia-Gate, the Steele Dossier, and even the 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment (drawn from the dossier and signed by the above) were needed to create a cover-story and protect themselves from discovery of this four year weaponization, political surveillance and unlawful spying. Even the appointment of Robert Mueller as special counsel makes sense; he was FBI Director when this began. (2) They needed to keep surveillance ongoing.

The beginning decision to use FISA(702) as a domestic surveillance and political spy mechanism appears to have started in/around 2012. Perhaps sometime shortly before the 2012 presidential election and before John Brennan left the White House and moved to CIA. However, there was an earlier version of data assembly that preceded this effort.

Political spying 1.0 was actually the weaponization of the IRS. This is where the term “Secret Research Project” originated as a description from the Obama team. It involved the U.S. Department of Justice under Eric Holder and the FBI under Robert Mueller. It never made sense why Eric Holder requested over 1 million tax records via CD ROM, until overlaying the timeline of the FISA abuse:

The IRS sent the FBI “21 disks constituting a 1.1 million page database of information from 501(c)(4) tax exempt organizations, to the Federal Bureau of Investigation.” The transaction occurred in October 2010 (link)

Why disks? Why send a stack of DISKS to the DOJ and FBI when there’s a pre-existing financial crimes unit within the IRS. All of the evidence within this sketchy operation came directly to the surface in early spring 2012.

The IRS scandal was never really about the IRS, it was always about the DOJ asking the IRS for the database of information. That is why it was transparently a conflict when the same DOJ was tasked with investigating the DOJ/IRS scandal. Additionally, Obama sent his chief-of-staff Jack Lew to become Treasury Secretary; effectively placing an ally to oversee/cover-up any issues. As Treasury Secretary Lew did just that.

Lesson Learned – It would appear the Obama administration learned a lesson from attempting political opposition research through the IRS database. The timeline reflects a few months after realizing the “Secret Research Project” was now worthless (June 2012), they focused more deliberately on a smaller network within the intelligence apparatus; and through “contractors” they began weaponizing the FBI/NSA database. If our hunch is correct, that is what will be visible in footnote #69:

How this all comes together in 2019/2020

Fusion GPS was not hired in April 2016 to just research Donald Trump. As shown in the evidence provided by the FISC, the intelligence community was already doing surveillance and spy operations. The Obama administration already knew everything about the Trump campaign, and were monitoring everything by exploiting the FISA database.

However, after the NSA alerts in/around March 9th, 2016, and particularly after the April 18th shutdown of contractor access, the Obama intelligence community needed Fusion GPS to create a legal albeit ex post facto justification for the pre-existing surveillance and spy operations. Fusion GPS gave them that justification in the Steele Dossier.

That’s why the FBI small group, which later transitioned into the Mueller team, were so strongly committed to and defending the formation of the Steele Dossier and its dubious content.

The Steele Dossier, an outcome of the Fusion contract, contains two purposes: (1) the cover-story and justification for the pre-existing surveillance operation (protect Obama); and (2) facilitate the FBI counterintelligence operation against the Trump campaign (assist Clinton).  That became more important after the election when the same players needed to get a special counsel. An insurance policy would be needed.

The Steele Dossier becomes the investigative virus the FBI wanted inside the system. To get the virus into official status, they used the FISA application as the delivery method and injected it into U.S. person Carter Page; a former Trump campaign advisor. The FBI already knew Carter Page; essentially Carter Page was irrelevant, what they needed was the FISA warrant and the Dossier in the system {Go Deep}.

Fusion GPS was not only hired to research Trump, the intelligence community was already doing surveillance and spy operations. The intelligence community needed Fusion GPS to give them a plausible justification for already existing surveillance and spy operations.

Fusion-GPS gave them the justification they needed for a FISA warrant with the Steele Dossier. Ultimately that’s why the Steele Dossier is so important; without it, the DOJ and FBI would be naked with their FISA-702 abuse as outlined by John Ratcliffe.


“Mistakes were made”, is the ridiculous excuse.  The FBI knew all along the Steele Dossier was garbage, but they were dependent on using it… Their willful blindness was by design; they needed the dossier to get to the Mueller phase:

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223 Responses to DOJ Political Surveillance – From the IRS in 2011 to the FISA Court in 2016…

  1. litlbit2 says:

    “The operators were searching “U.S Persons”. The review of November 1, 2015, to May 1, 2016, showed “eighty-five percent of those queries” were unlawful or “non compliant”.

    Why is all of these investigations just surround President Trump?

    Just maybe with all the contractors(?) using FISA, think AG Barr, Bush clan, Soros, Obama, before President Trump. I have always thought this is bigger than President Trump. Just like Russia Russia was used against POTUS to cover Swamp/DNC crimes, it is also on steroids to cover their previous illegal activity. How bout looking before 2015 say back oh 2004. Or previous corruption at the alphabet government agencies doing FISA searches, spying 👀

    IMO, President Trump is the only one to expose this evil, “…or we will all hang”. Would like to know from 2000 to date which FISA judges approved the most FISA searches, what months were most searched, what years? Who was doing the searches? Are all those queries “redacted” also? Why just the President Trump years 15,16,17? Oh well I ramble. Yet only one Judge steps up, Collyer? Oh sorry Barr and Durham are on it?

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    • As a man thinkth says:

      Were these contractors ” harvesting data” by the truckload and depositing the data in the Hammer? I am not even sure the Hammer exists, but if it does, and the Deep state actors were using it prior to 2016, the whole FISA scam could be an attempt to cover up the actual source of this Harvested Data…The entire Dennis Montgomery (Hammer) story has not received much attention….

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      • litlbit2 says:

        “An assembly of government reports and public records now indicates a political exploitation of the NSA database, for weaponized intelligence surveillance of politicians, began mid 2012. “

        Opening statement in the article. Yet today we only discuss the criminal activity trying to take down President Trump? Does anyone else consider Bill Barr also part of the problem along with McConnell? Furthermore how was Durham invited on board? Yet this is a investigation by conflicted persons that will render a corrective solution? Considering the above as well as many others now exposed. Without President Trump election and re-election would anything be seen? Only two FISA Judges put forth any daylight on the years of corruption. Then wrote it in code. What a organization.


    • arsumbris says:

      It’s funny how they thought they would “all hang”, and yet, after so much has been revealed in these last three years, its been nothing but dropped charges, gaslighting, official denials, and nothing, nothing, nothing.

      I guess if you’re going to commit crimes, do them at the highest level of power, make sure as many people are stained with guilt or made to look bad, just make sure that your crime is “TOO BIG TO PROSECUTE” and you’ll walk free.

      Not sure what’s left of the Republic after that, but nothing lasts forever.

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      • litlbit2 says:

        Makes one realize very quickly how strong an individual President Trump and a few other good men are with all the garage around him. We are truly blessed and do not forget Sundance and friends.


  2. John-Y128 says:

    Both the IRS & FISA political surveillance(s) abuses were by our 1st black president’s, most transparent administration ever. Great history book entry for the democrats, [forever]. Meanwhile AG Barr is covering it up as fast as he can!

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    • Jederman says:

      Yes indeedy. Without the corrupt media behind him he probably wouldn’t have been elected in the first place.

      If, on the other hand, they were objective they might note that he was elected in IL by obtaining private, confidential, personal information on his opponents, then using it to neutralize their candidacy.

      No, it wasn’t the strength of his ideas, his natural leadership skills (cough), his vast wealth of successful previous experience that got him where he is today.

      It was cheating, and the apparent lack of any moral code what so ever. But that’s what teleprompters are for.

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    • Obi-Wan says:

      “The IRS scandal was never really about the IRS, it was always about the DOJ asking the IRS for the database of information.”
      Now it makes sense why Lois Lerner dropped her bomb in that 5/10/2013 ABA meeting, after which she got sidelined and made her “escape”.

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  3. digleigh says:

    Fisa knew it, gang of 8 knew it, investigators knew it, Barr knows it, even horoscope Q team knows it…ZERO ACCOUNTABILITY since 2012. Corruption and coverup abounds…Abortionists/depopulationists ( Bill Gates) continues spilling innocent blood on the ground, corona pandemic panic/economy crashing (the borrower shall be a slave to the lender/ usury abuse)”never let a crisis go to waste”….Get on your knees, America! Repent( turn away from your wicked ways)..Deuteronomy 28, and II Chronicles 7:14…God will no longer be mocked….

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    • digleigh says:

      ” ..the whole world groans for the revealing of the sons of God…..” (scripture)..Human diploid cells are ingredients reflected on the inserts…..plain evil…..

      Liked by 1 person

      • digleigh says:

        Bill Gates ( friend and funder of child molester /blackmailer for Mosaad Epstein after conviction….) is funding an at home corona test kit…Can we surmise why? Follow the money trail….

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  4. Mathias says:

    Welcome to the “interagency consensus.” That is the Deep State’s Constitution we live under.

    “THE” Lieutenant Colonel Vindman, after thorough consultation with the “interagency consensus,” and a back rub from his twin brother, has decided that in our next meaningless “conversion therapy” war with unconvertable sand people, we should stage an attack, filmed by CNN, in 3-d, where the created hero is a short, fat, soy boy, beta, immigrant, with tranny surgery aspirations. That is what our “interagency consensus” thinks is our most pressing military objective, to achieve max wokeness. “THE” Lieutenant Colonel Vindman, as our “low-T” saviour.

    This great article must become common knowledge. It is critical now, before it is too late, that CTH abandons the obfuscating legal system excuses of Barr and Durham immediately and takes the strongest digestible core evidence, exposing simple thundering conclusionary thesis statements, on the Obama administration, the Deep State and especially the “gang of 8” McConnell/Ryan uniparty collusion in the coup plan from the start. Use the model CTH used years back with the OAN “scheme team” series, but this time get Lou Dobbs and Tucker, to build it in to recurring “A” or “B” block segments. (Heck, President Trump should also get a tight, over-arching 15 minute script, to
    weave in & become a staple at rally speeches. The coup needs to be explained with some repeatable catchy taglines, that cement the Deep State crimes, into the political consciousness of the nation and as a key part of President Trump’s re-election campaign. I guess I’m saying, what is the coup equivalent of “lock her up!” What is the best wording in cadence, for retelling “the snake” poem, with the more relevant “coup snakes” poem. I want schoolkids to know every line. We should maybe crowdsource/contest the best script?) The goal at this point is on educating, not prosecuting. Even simplified, the story is captivating.

    Durham is going to stall, until a few months from the election and then use that as an excuse to disappear Huber-style. CTH is the one proven leader, with the source knowledge to inform the greater public, with known rock solid evidence, that will force the hand, so that the incriminating redactions and documents are exposed.

    Or, I suppose President Trump could just go over to the NSA and ask them to search query “donald trump” and let us know what came up?

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    • StanH says:

      Agreed. This needs the Madison Ave touch. Buzz-words, taglines, easy to remember phrases like “lock her up!” Perhaps give the answer “why lock her/them up?” The good news, we have a top shelf marketer as President and I would expect some incredible ads as 11/3/20 approaches. He plays to win.

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    • ann says:

      “The coup needs to be explained “; “”The goal at this point is on educating, not prosecuting.”

      Agree with your realisltic approach , Mathias.

      Collyer’s 4-29-17 Justice Dept, Compliance Review Is a roadmap of the operational epicentre of this corrupted, rogue ruling order that self -presents as partipants in a legitimate state. . .

      In my life, no a candidate before Donald Trump had the integrity & sheer guts to clarify in vernacular, to fellow Americans that we no longer had a functional law abiding state.

      The fact based historical reality was KNOWN but unspoken. .
      Hence: all out war, by proxy, against P. Trump, but the real target is US,.

      A bitter Irony: our attackers are cloaked as sworn defenders and arbitrators of law,,

      DoJ’s upper hierarchy tries to project their in-house endemic,deviant antisocial culture as normal, or at worst, to minimise the culpability of their top command .
      Bah, what nonsense!

      DoJ/Bureau are the principle power holders. By refusing to be transparent, their institution enables the continuation of our failing state’s veiled top down authoritarian regime”.

      In my long held opinion. 🇺🇸🦅🔨

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  5. History will repeat itself once again. Only the spilling of blood of the evil ones will atone for the wicked acts they have freely engaged in. God is not mocked.

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  6. StanH says:

    Oct 29, 2016 · Hillary said: ” If that f -cking bastard wins, we all hang from nooses!”

    We now fully understand Hillary. And Hillary, you were correct.

    “The Patriot Act” served up to a bunch of 60s radicals, what could possibly go wrong? “The ends justify the means.”

    We The People demand that our 4th Amendment rights be restored and now!

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    • As a man thinkth says:

      The Weather Underground morphed into the Lawfare Group…and yes, they hide billions of dollars within the coffers of select universities…If you really want the stir the pot just AUDIT the universities…audit the grant money…follow the research data out the back door and straight to China…Top Secret Sandia Research Laboratory in New Mexico is managed by University of California at Berkeley…go figure…

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  7. Mike in a Truck says:

    Its make greatest hope before I depart this earth to see Eric Holder in a Federal penitentiary.

    Liked by 5 people

    • Retired USMC says:

      Swinging on the end of a rope, leave his body hang as a bird feeder. Prison is too good from the likes of him.


  8. Doug Amos says:

    “unlawful searches for repeated persons over a period of time that were not authorized”; fire Barr today and lock Obama and Holder up in jail before sundown. Anything less is failure to protect the American people.

    Liked by 5 people

  9. sparel says:

    It is all buried now. Time to move on with a world crisis. Nothing will ever be done about the scandals in Washington. They have effectively buried it.

    Liked by 1 person

  10. After only a year or so, Patreaus was conveniently caught in an FBI honey-trap in 2012 and Morrell was put in as a place-holder for Brennan in 2013.

    In 2008, as a private citizen, he broke into the State Dept.’s computers several times for Obama’s birth certificate. Was it friendly or used as leverage?

    As Director, he broke into Chairman Feinstein’s computres and threatened to jail her staffers when they protested. He apologized when caught red-handed. Now he lectures the President on separation of powers and abuse of power. After all, he’s the expert.

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  11. Mongo Mere Pawn says:

    Just a thought. If the Obama administration was conducting political surveillance through FBI subcontractors, who “contracted” with the subcontractors, i.e., who signed off on giving these subcontractors unfettered access to the NSA database? Where is the paper trail? Where is the work product? Where are the receipts for payments made?

    Also, if the Obama administration was conducting political surveillance on their opposition, where are the results? Some speculate that the Chief Justice changed his Obamacare vote since that appears to coincide with the initiation of the NSA database abuse per Collyer. But what about the inordinate number of Republican incumbent retirements over that period of time? Could very well explain the refusal of Boehner and Ryan to defend the House.

    Again, did the audit ordered by Admiral Rogers reveal political surveillance not only on Candidate Trump, but any other Republican candidate for president? There is an answer to that question. The fact that we still do not know the answer 3.5 years after the audit means that the coverup is ongoing.

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  12. 335blues says:

    The part that makes us all furious at DOJ and FBI is when they say “mistakes were made”,
    they are referring to ‘GETTING CAUGHT”.
    There is no contrition on their part.
    There is no intention to stop the illegal behavior.
    Their only plan is to not get caught next time.
    This is what makes Barr’s
    ‘PRE-CRIME’ plan so scary and dangerous.
    Barr seems intent on perfecting the nationwide surveillance state that obama was dreaming about.

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  13. islandpalmtrees says:

    It looks like we can now read all but the portion directly after [apparently in place]

    Access granted to [Prism] contractors
    [Inspector General] compliance report in 2009 declared
    CTH believes that redacted date is 2012

    [CIA] access to FBI systems was the subject of an inter-agency memorandum of understanding enter into in [2012.

    *******Back-up for the 2012 MOU date – follows*****
    You don’t need a MOU without the NSA Database, fully operational, March 2016
    Obama’s illegal initiative labeled “Operation Hammer” was in full force in March 2016

    You can’t run the NSA Database, without the contractors, June 2013
    Meet the contractors analyzing your private data
    Private companies are getting rich probing your personal information for the government. Call it Digital Blackwater
    JUNE 10, 2013

    *****hundreds of longtime NSA employees left their government jobs one day and walked in the next morning wearing their green badges from CSC and its many subcontractors.****
    Hayden was relentless in shifting NSA from an agency that relied on in-house experts for its technology to one of the most privatized agencies in government today. His first action, a project known as Groundbreaker, outsourced all of NSA’s internal communications system. In one fell swoop, hundreds of longtime NSA employees left their government jobs one day and walked in the next morning wearing their green badges from CSC and its many subcontractors.

    As you can see below, on March 9th, 2016, internal auditors noted the FBI was sharing “raw FISA information, including but not limited to Section 702-acquired information”.


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  14. islandpalmtrees says:

    TYPO You don’t need a MOU without the NSA Database, fully operational, March 2013
    Obama’s illegal initiative labeled “Operation Hammer” was in full force in March 2013

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  15. OhNoYouDont says:

    WILLIAMS: Well — well, as a policy matter, why — why not open an investigation on a thin pretext? I guess, on the one hand, you could say it’s a presidential campaign, it’s very sensitive, you need better evidence. On the other hand, you could say, it’s a presidential campaign, we have to be very careful, there could be a threat to our political process.

    BARR: Well, I think — I think probably, from a civil liberties standpoint, the greatest danger to our free system is that the incumbent government use the apparatus of the state, principally the law enforcement agencies and the intelligence agencies, both to spy on political opponents, but also to use them in a way that could affect the outcome of the election.

    As far as I’m aware, this is the first time in history that this has been done to a presidential campaign, the use of these counterintelligence techniques against a presidential campaign.

    And we have to remember, in today’s world, presidential campaigns are frequently in contact with foreign persons. And, indeed, in most campaigns, there are signs of illegal foreign money coming in. And we don’t automatically assume that the campaigns are nefarious and traitors and acting in league with foreign powers. There has to be some basis before we use these very potent powers in our core First Amendment activity.

    And here, I felt this was very flimsy. Basically, I think the department has a rule of reason, which is, at the end of the day, is what you’re relying on sufficiently powerful to justify the techniques you’re using? And the question there is, how strong is the evidence? How sensitive is the activity you’re looking at? And what are the alternatives? And I think when you step back here and say, what was this all based on? It’s not sufficient.

    Remember, there was and never has been any evidence of collusion. And yet this campaign and the president’s administration has been dominated by this investigation into what turns out to be completely baseless.


    AG Barr: Trump’s 2016 Campaign “Was Clearly Spied On,” Why Didn’t FBI Talk To The Campaign?
    Posted By Tim Hains – On Date December 10, 2019

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  16. Orson says:

    I think you can probably lump in potential Supreme Court nominees into that 85% illegal search ratio. I don’t think Ford showing up was serendipity. I think she was recruited using meta-data to determine who was at Kavanaugh’s school at the time and in what social circles.

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  17. islandpalmtrees says:

    You don’t need the MOU without the NSA Database
    You can’t run the NSA Database with the contractors.
    It looks like after [apparently in place] is [2013]

    Obama’s Illegal Spying on Americans Labeled “Operation Hammer” Will Soon Be Exposed
    May 19, 2019, by Jim Hoft

    Maxine Waters slipped up during a 2013 interview with journalist Roland Martin. In this interview Waters said –

    …I think some people are missing something here. The President [Obama] has put in place an organization that contains a kind of database than no one has ever seen before in life. That’s going to be very, very powerful and whoever …and that database will have information about everything on every individual in ways that it’s never been don before.”

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  18. Superb piece. You make a complex issue easier to understand. I’m happy to have a forum where I can chronicle and share your extremely important work. Our timelines wouldn’t have near the meat to them without your stunning research. You’re an important and very necessary voice, Sundance.

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  19. askandgettruth says:

    look at these 2 traitors. the face of evil commies. holder once called people of this country cowards, well you ain’t got the balls to tell it to a vet face to face. some day you will answer to the BRAVE american people. do both of you hate anglo americans ???

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  20. thedoc00 says:

    SD needs to add that the level of classification of ALL the searches and results were declassified (as in national security type classification) on the spot by an AUTHORIZED US Federal Officer. Thus, not a single bit of this can be claimed to be a security violation.

    President Obama, as the originating authority for all things classified and clearances, delegated authority per Federal Code to allow removal of classification and materials. Heck he could even have delegate authority to grant clearances needed by the contractors.

    It would be a pleasant surprise of allow of the material mined or even records of that material is even around to be examined as its destruction or removal would have been easy to “LEGALLY” arrange.

    This is not rocket science folks. This in a nutshell is why there will be very few legal actions taken by AG Barr or any of his fellow bagpipers, because it was ALL TECHNICALLY LEGAL. Throw in judges who are suddenly sympathetic to the TECHNICAL COMPLIANCE and the FISC can sit on their thumbs over every single scandal exposed 2009-2017.

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    • Beau Geste says:

      Doc, I do not understand how, or who, specifically, the 85% illegal spying was declassified. If so, isn’t it available by FOIA (even id redacted in part, the material must be produced in response to FOIA and lawsuits for denial of civil rights?


      • thedoc00 says:

        Just because its declassified, does not mean it has to be released and materials that become releasable under a FOIA request may not even exist any more, other than a document title if even that.

        Being declassified does not automatically equal releasable to the public upon request.

        Again, as I stated the really damaging materials are n longer in government hands or have been destroyed, nice and legal as authorized by President Obama.


        • Beau Geste says:

          I doubt there is an official obama Executive Order to destroy illegal spying evidence. Destruction of government records, and destruction of evidence of criminality are illegal. (obama sent his self-incriminating records to his ‘library’, where they are allegedly protected by statute from inspection or release)

          Destruction of evidence and government records is a simple, very easy prosecution. Durham and Barr know this, but have done nothing. Disgusting.

          And, what does it take to get the ‘missing’ hillary emails, and the ‘missing’ strozk-page texts ‘accidentally destroyed’ by mewler’s cellphone ‘cleaning’? Why can’t these records be obtained by Durham or Barr, or the Senate by simple ‘unmasking” of NSA files, or FISA Warrants, or senate subpoena?

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    • As a man thinkth says:

      By the Book…


  21. islandpalmtrees says:

    CrowdStrike was founded in 2011, just in time for the NSA Database creation of 2012.

    CrowdStrike was co-founded by George Kurtz (CEO), Dmitri Alperovitch (CTO), and Gregg Marston (CFO, retired) in 2011. In 2012, Shawn Henry, a former Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) official, was hired to lead sister company CrowdStrike Services, Inc.

    Crowdstrike is funded by Google, the arms industry, NATO, the US Military, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, and another Ukrainian oligarch who donated $10 million to the Clinton Foundation named Victor Pinchuk.

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  22. islandpalmtrees says:

    The FISA Database was never build to follow the law. Would the MOU prove it?

    Why would the NSA employees be made private contractors because of the MOU? Certainly anything they do as private contractors doesn’t have to be released under a FOIA request. So why go to the extreme measure of moving hundreds of employees from a government job to a private contractor.


  23. Rick says:

    “We can tell from the space of the redaction the number of searches were between 1,000 and 9,999 [five digits]. If we take the middle number of 5,000 – that means 4,250 unlawful searches out of 5,000.”
    You say five digits in brackets yet your mathematical demonstration shows 4 digits. If it really is five digits, then aren’t we looking at illegal searches between 10,000-99,000?

    “Specific people were being tracked/monitored.”
    Like Republican candidates, Judges, Justice Roberts…, most politicians…

    Could one ‘identifier’ be Russian connections to Trump and his campaign? Like as an operation to ‘take down Trump with his bromance for Putin’ was documented in a Dec. 2015 Podesta email and later operation “swift boat” was discussed in a February 2016 email between Joel Johnson and Jennifer Palmieri advocating an urgent need to “Swift Boat Trump.”

    Here is the most dangerous and stunning fact of all:
    “Additionally, notice the last quote: “while ***the government reports it is unable to provide a reliable estimate of” these non lawful searches “since 2012***, …”.
    If the Gov. can’t track all the unlawful searches, then they can’t track who performed each of them.

    We’ve heard much about Obama/Brennan/Clapper’s ‘Hammer,’ But little in the way of how it was set up to perform anonymous searches which would account for the inability to count the number of illegal searches… Somewhere some time ago I read that William Binny’s? code for building the NSA database was raided by the FBI sometime after he turned in a pile of HD’s showing illegal surveillance and claimed whistleblower status. The article claimed Brennan/Clapper used the code to build an anonymous database. Supposing that is true, apparently they were not able to strip information revealing access to the database itself, but were able to reach their objective of making anonymous searches. I’d like to see some clever sleuths here take a dive into that…

    “On his last day as NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers -together with ODNI Dan Coats- put U.S. cyber-command, the database steward, fully into the U.S. military as a full combatant command. [SEE HERE] Unfortunately it didn’t work as shown by the 2018 FISC opinion rendered by FISC Judge James Boasberg”
    And this brings us back to the illusive ‘Hammer…’ Where is it now? And are illegal, unaccountable searches still happening?

    “(June 2012), they focused more deliberately on a smaller network within the intelligence apparatus; and through “contractors” they began weaponizing the FBI/NSA database. If our hunch is correct, that is what will be visible in footnote #69:”
    Admiral Mike Rogers shut down Contractor access in 2016 and yet the 2018 FISA review by Judge Boasberg showed a continued high rate of illegal, even anonymous searches of the nsa database. So shutting off contractor access hasn’t slowed down the illegal searches…

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    • islandpalmtrees says:

      You can not give a reliable estimate on a none existing NSA database. Reference my posting above. NSA database construction started in 2012 and completed in 2013. See it now?

      ***the government reports it is unable to provide a reliable estimate of” these non lawful searches “since 2012***, …”.


  24. OhNoYouDont says:


    The scope of Durham’s investigation has been characterized as wide-ranging; Barr confirmed earlier this fall that Durham has been conducting foreign outreach as part of the investigation. In October, it evolved into a criminal investigation, which Barr confirmed Thursday.

    “He is looking at other agencies and also private — departments, and also private actors. So it is a much broader investigation,” Barr said of Durham’s probe. “And also, he’s not just looking at the FISA aspect of it. He is looking at all the conduct, both before and after the election.”

    Part of what Durham has been examining, Barr explained, included dealing “with some of the various theories that have been thrown out and show one way or another whether they are valid or not. So the fact that you are looking into certain allegations does not necessarily mean you give them credence.”

    He added: “And the media understood that when Bob Mueller was doing his work, and they should bear that in mind when they are watching Durham.”

    While Barr reiterated that he was letting Durham run the investigation “as he sees fit,” he did not shy away from doubling down on criticism of past leaders of the Justice Department and FBI for their handling of the probe that was ultimately taken over by special counsel Robert Mueller.

    He argued that former Attorney General Loretta Lynch or former FBI Director James Comey should have provided Trump with a defensive briefing when authorities received a tip that a campaign adviser George Papadopoulos had disclosed his knowledge of Russian-held “dirt” on Hillary Clinton in 2016.


    Barr: Durham report on Russia investigation won’t be ready ‘for quite a few months’
    “He is moving very diligently,” the attorney general said.

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  25. OhNoYouDont says:

    This interview was conducted the same day as the House impeachment vote December 19, 2019.


    Barr publicly split with Horowitz earlier this month over the inspector general’s conclusion that the Russia probe was adequately predicated, and pushed back on that finding once again Thursday.

    He agreed with MacCallum when she characterized the publicly stated origin of the probe — the Papadopoulos tip — as “really a very thin thread to go on,” arguing Papadopoulos’ boast “had very little probative value” based on “rampant speculation” to that effect in political and media circles.

    And when it came to renewals of FISA warrants on Trump campaign aide Carter Page, Barr contended, “I just think that by the time the president entered office, around that time, it was becoming clear that there was no basis to these allegations.”

    Still, he said he would accept Durham’s eventual conclusion, whatever that may be.

    “I certainly will rely on John,” he said, explaining that his decision to appoint Durham stemmed from his “sterling” reputation “as legendary within the department.”


    Barr: Durham report on Russia investigation won’t be ready ‘for quite a few months’
    “He is moving very diligently,” the attorney general said.


    • But one key thing to remember about Durham is that he, unlike Horowitz, is a Federal prosecutor. His role, purpose, power and scope is entirely different from that of the Inspector General. A prosecutor does not merely “report.” A prosecutor prosecutes.

      But also: every detail about what a prosecutor is doing, what he might be “looking into,” who he might suspect, any Grand Jury activities, all of this … is secret. Because every person is entitled to wear “the glowing robe of presumed innocence” unless and until an actual indictment is unsealed against him. (And then, only the text of the indictment is public.) Professionals like Durham and Barr know these things implicitly and will not “leak” … anything whatsoever.

      If indictments are unsealed on [x] morning, you will find out about it for the very first time on [x] morning. And not one moment sooner. On day [x-1] you won’t have a clue of what the morrow would bring.

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  26. Cocoon says:

    It should be insisted those whose personal info was viewed wrongly are notified and given an opportunity for retribution.
    Anything short of this will lead to future incidents.


    • Beau Geste says:

      Absolutely. It should be part of the FISC scaleback, that anyone illegally spied on be notified, and given cause of action and jurisdiction to prosecute civil suit for damages via a free government-provided attorney with classified info clearance.

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      • sturmudgeon says:

        Would this mean those ‘wronged’ could sue/go after the INDIVIDUAL evil crooks, or are they protected because they are ‘in government’?


        • 1nikao says:

          I should think any person who has been investigated by the FBI would have a case that would have cause to be re-examined. They have been shown to unreliable and lacking candor.
          If I were in that boat, I’d be talking to my lawyer and seeing if there were any lawyers ready to start a specialty firm.


        • Beau Geste says:

          yes, personal liability if their actions were ‘willful”. Otherwise, just demotion or firing and loss or security clearance (a career stopper).


  27. Bill says:

    Stop messing with Idi Amins presidential record….


  28. Merkin Muffley says:

    Remember: FBI and IRS information has been shared with the Democrats since Louis Freeh and Bernie Nusbaum in 1993.


  29. islandpalmtrees says:

    Sundance, do I have this right?

    I have John Owen Brennan is a former American intelligence official who served as the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency from *March 2013 to January 2017.

    Memorandum of Understanding was likely signed at the same time Brennan became CIA Director – March 2013?

    FISA Judge Rosemary Collyer didn’t pick the year 2012 out of thin air when she noted the government’s unreliable “non-compliance rate” since that time frame. In essence, based on admissions to the court, the FISA-702 contractor database search abuse began at the same time Brennan became CIA Director, and likely the same time as that FBI and CIA (or ODNI and TTIC – matters not) Memorandum of Understanding.…-bac-the-cias-involvement-in-the-coup-attempt/


  30. rebelinme2 says:

    It irks me that whenever we were attacked for real, these agencies had prior knowledge of intent to attack from within or without and nothing was done to prevent it. But, they were way busy carrying out these corrupt nefarious spying on private citizens and inventing all kinds of ways to frame our chosen President. Crowdstrike seems to also tout catching people hacking into the Democrat activities multiple times, but nothing about protecting anyone else from hacking… Pentagon, DOJ, CIA, FISA, and FBI keep trying to give the impression that one hand didn’t know what the other was doing, but they sure managed to send info efficiently to support the ousting of Our Duly elected President. I am not buying that any of them were just making innocent mistakes or unfortunate innocent ommisions. Barr is a fixer from way back, and I think he is there to protect these systems and brush away the illegal activities. Durham reports keep getting pushed back leading me to believe what I suspected all along… they are all working together to drag this investigation past the point that criminal charges can be filed and they will all be off scott free.I hope I am wrong.

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  31. hoosiertruthfan says:

    Thank you, Sundance, this verifies my gut instincts about all of this mess going back to 2012. Fundamental transformation by the Obama administration indeed.

    All of this reeked, the Fast and Furious handling, the IRS scandal that seemed to vanish with no ramifications, the arrogance of the IRS officials in front of Congress, the spying on journalists, all of the scandal laden secret dealings and manipulations that were blatantly askew and yet nothing happened. There were so many tips that things were out of whack and yet it wasn’t getting better, it seemed to be getting worse.

    I’m hopeful that President Trump is getting enough of the right people into the right positions to bring us back on track but I’m not optimistic.
    Think of how many people have been a part of this and not been held accountable! There have to be penalties for subverting our republic.

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