Wemple Skewers Maddow Over Dossier, Gullible Audience Jaw Agape w/ Denial, Dissonant Journalists Reap What They Sowed…

Holy cow, what an abject lesson in media-created nuttery this is.  Eric Wemple writes a column in the Washington Post skewering Rachel Maddow for selling her gullible audience on the credibility of the Steele Dossier for almost three years.  However, judging by the reaction to Wemple’s tweet, the left-wingnuts still believe the Dossier is viable and accurate despite the only source, Steele’s primary sub-source, saying the Dossier material was completely bunk; “mostly innuendo”, “bar-talk”, and “internet rumor/gossip”.

Then there’s this:

There’s a cognitive pathology that clings to denial as a survival mechanism at this level.  It’s called cognitive dissonance, or what David Mamet referred to as an inherent need for the collective left to pretend not to know things in order to retain their views.

Let there be no doubt the U.S. media created this.  It might seem odd in hindsight, but CTH wrote about where we would be today, two years ago.

January 2018:  What exactly do you think the American institutional media will do with a Justice department reality, within the real DOJ and FBI story, that factually ends up in a direction 180° divergent from their current years-long travel?

The media have fully invested themselves in eighteen months of narrative distribution in only one direction. Not a single MSM entity has questioned their travel as a result of false leaks and false sources in the totality of time they have covered the DOJ and FBI story.

Nothing within their collective need to will-an-outcome, will change the media’s proximity to facts when the truthful story behind the DOJ and FBI corruption is finally exposed. The media are so far away from the place where this story ends, they have no inherent capability to even begin to travel in the opposite direction, toward the truth.

The only way they could align with the truth is to admit that virtually every scintilla of their reportage over the past 18 months three years was inherently false. There’s not a single media outlet capable of doing that.

We shared a discussion thread two years ago about how the media are enmeshed within the story of the DOJ and FBI corruption. The media engagements with the parties swirling around the FBI, DOJ and Clinton-Steele Dossier are so pervasive they cannot reasonably report on any aspect of the story without exposing their own duplicity.

Michael Isikoff highlighted how enmeshed media is with the dossier story when he admitted his reporting was being used by the DOJ and FBI to advance the political objectives of the intelligence community. Additionally, FBI investigator Peter Strzok and FBI attorney Lisa Page were shown in their text messages to be leaking stories from the Clinton Investigation, the Trump investigation and the Mueller investigation to journalists at Politico, The Wall Street Journal and Washington Post. –SEE HERE

FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe was busted by the Inspector General leaking stories to the media and then lying about it to INSD and IG investigators.

FBI Director James Comey admitted to leaking stories to the New York Times, and even hired his friend Andrew Richman (off-the-books), gave him access to FBI and NSA databases, and then leaked information to Richman along with another friend Benjamin Wittes at Lawfare blog.

Lest we forget, the IG report on how the FBI handled the Clinton investigation revealed that dozens of FBI officials were actually taking bribes from the media for information:

IG REPORT – We identified numerous FBI employees, at all levels of the organization and with no official reason to be in contact with the media, who were nevertheless in frequent contact with reporters. Attached to this report as Attachments E and F are two link charts that reflect the volume of communications that we identified between FBI employees and media representatives in April/May and October 2016. We have profound concerns about the volume and extent of unauthorized media contacts by FBI personnel that we have uncovered during our review.

[…] We do not believe the problem is with the FBI’s policy, which we found to be clear and unambiguous. Rather, we concluded that these leaks highlight the need to change what appears to be a cultural attitude among many in the organization. (link to pdf – page Xii of executive summary)


This is an IG fact-based criticism of the institution of the FBI, not simply a few rogue officials within it.

But wait…. Perspective:

Later it was revealed that Andrew Weissman, Robert Mueller’s #1 special counsel prosecutor, was coordinating investigative efforts with the full support of four AP reporters who were giving Weissman tips. That’s information from journalists to use in his court filings and submitted search warrants. Make sure you grasp this: The AP journalists were feeding information to their ideological allies within the special counsel.

Nuts; simply, well, nuts.

And then there’s Devlin Barrett, Lisa Page and Peter Strzok:

(Source Link – pdf Page #5)

Additionally, Christopher Steele has stated in U.K. court records the person in charge of the Clinton Campaign’s opposition research firm, Glenn Simpson from Fusion GPS, arranged and coordinated for Mr. Steele to talk to several journalists (CNN, The New York Times, The Washington Post, Yahoo News and Mother Jones) while Mr. Steele was also the primary source of information for the FBI investigators (including Strzok and Page):

(Source – page #8)

Make sure you read that full response from Christopher Steele above to see the scope of the media engagements he was conducting.

As more evidence surfaced, the relationship between journalists, Fusion-GPS, Chris Steele and the media’s DOJ/FBI sources blended together. The FBI was using media reports, which were based on Fusion-GPS pitches, to bolster its investigative documents to the FISA court. It is an intelligence laundry operation:

According to the U.K records, Christopher Steele reports this September 2016 meeting with Isikoff was arranged by Glenn Simpson. According to Michael Isikoff on his February podcast, he met Christopher Steele at a Washington, D.C. hotel in Sept. 2016. They were joined by his “old friend” Glenn Simpson, the founder of opposition research firm Fusion GPS, who Isikoff now defines as a “private investigator.”

So Christopher Steele was meeting with journalists, the journalists were writing articles; the FBI was leaking to media and simultaneously citing those same articles as underlying evidence to support their counterintelligence investigations; and all of this was used to validate the investigative documents the FBI was receiving from Christopher Steele; who, along with the leaking FBI officials, was also the source of the media articles.

FUBAR! This is exponentially bonkers.

This is a circle of information, all coming from Glenn Simpson at Fusion GPS, who was the opposition research firm being financed by Hillary Clinton, along with FBI officials who were using their own strategic leaks to validate their own investigation.

Think about the scale of the reporting, and reporting on reporting, and reporting on reporting of reporting, of anonymous leaks, false leaks, lies from “people with knowledge of the matter”, “government officials involved in the matter”, “people familiar with the matter”, “government sources” etc. all going in one unified and semi-coordinated direction – against the aggregate Trump administration.

Now, it actually gets even more convoluted.

Christopher Steele has sworn under oath that he met with multiple journalists (at least eight organizations) in September, mid-October, and late-October 2016: “at Fusion’s instruction“. (pdf page #7)

Overlay upon that sworn admission with what Glenn Simpson (Fusion-GPS) told the House Intelligence Committee while also under oath about his involvement in sharing information derived from Christopher Steele:

(Testimony – pdf link, page #147)

…”without my knowledge and against my wishes”?


FBI Director James Comey admits to leaking his ‘memos’ to the New York Times. FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe was busted for leaking and lying about it. FBI #2 Counterintelligence Agent Peter Strzok and FBI Attorney Lisa Page are caught in their text messages leaking to Politico, The Wall Street Journal and The Washington Post.

…. AND the FBI is caught, in at least one FISA application, using Yahoo media reports provided by them AND their investigative source Christopher Steele to establish a basis for FISA “Title I” surveillance; the most intrusive and wide-open search and surveillance authority possible.

The Clinton Campaign is paying Fusion GPS to conduct opposition research against Donald Trump. In addition to Glenn Simpson pushing that opposition research into the media, Fusion GPS is also providing that opposition research –including information from contacts with media– directly to the FBI:

(pdf link – page #4)

… In addition to using the Fusion-GPS opposition research to underpin their counterintelligence investigation, the FBI then turn around and leak the same opposition research information to the media to create secondary support for their counterintelligence investigation.

Tell me again how the media can possibly write about this now?

The problem is not just corruption with the U.S. Justice System, the DOJ and the FBI; the problem is corruption within the media.

We’re talking about thousands of hours of media TV pundits, thousands more columns written, and almost every scintilla of it based on originating intelligence sources -from the larger intelligence system- that are now being exposed as duplicitous and conspiratorial in the scale of their malicious intent.

This larger story-line has traveled in one direction. The narrative has only traveled in one direction. Each thread converging on codependent trails for collective stories all going in one direction. One big engineered narrative endlessly pushed. Think about how far the collective media have traveled with this story over the past eighteen months?

Hell, twenty-something-year-old “journalists” were so committed to the resistance narrative they were even sleeping with their sources to get any little engineering angle possible.

Over a period of several years it has become increasingly obvious the collective journey, using all that expended effort, was going in the wrong direction.

The media have fully invested themselves in three-years of narrative distribution in only one direction. Not a single MSM entity has questioned their travel as a result of false leaks or false sources in the totality of time they have covered the DOJ and FBI story.

Nothing within their collective need to will-an-outcome will change the media’s proximity to facts when the truthful story behind the DOJ and FBI corruption is finally exposed. The media are so far away from the place where this story ends, they have no inherent capability to even begin to travel in the opposite direction, toward the truth.

The only way they could align with the truth is to admit that virtually every scintilla of their reportage over the past three years was inherently false, wrong, skewed and manipulated by their “sources” distributing the material for their reporting.

There’s not a single media outlet capable of doing that.

Think about a New York Times, CNN, New Yorker, Wall Street Journal, Mother Jones, Yahoo News or Washington Post journalist now having to write an article deconstructing a foundation of three-years worth of lies they participated in creating.

Do we really think such a catastrophic level of corrupted journalism could reconstitute into genuine reporting of fact-based information?



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267 Responses to Wemple Skewers Maddow Over Dossier, Gullible Audience Jaw Agape w/ Denial, Dissonant Journalists Reap What They Sowed…

  1. Dutchman says:

    The same box of their own making, that the media is now in and that Sundance has so eloquently described, is the box the DEMS, and the deep state are in.

    And, both are just as fundamentally INCAPABLE of admitting the truth, and the reality to themselves, or admitting to the American people “we were WRONG”!

    We are talking about, for the most part athiests and agnostics, it doesn’t even occur to them to admit to wrongdoing, on ANY level and seek forgiveness.

    Just as there is no way back for the media, there is no way back for the Democrat party, Congressional leadership of both faces of the Uniparty, or the administrative deep state.

    No way back,….

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    • TarsTarkas says:

      We are talking about cowards. It is cowardice to be unable to admit error no matter how overwhelming the evidence for it. It takes courage to admit you are wrong. Unfortunately in the DC/media complex admitting error is a death sentence and admission of weakness and the hyenas they are instantly go to the attack on seeing that. Hence their paralysis . . .

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      • Pale rider says:

        In the climate of today and the direction of the flow if one dishonest journalist wrote an honest piece and disowned the establishment I say they would cement themselves in a position with America that would guarantee a future.
        Its coming like it or not, they will start to dance for conservative money. Hey, look at Beck.

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      • Dutchman says:

        Put simply, their screwed?


      • SW Richmond says:

        OP: “…cognitive pathology”
        TT: “We are talking about cowards. It is cowardice to be unable to admit error no matter how overwhelming the evidence for it.”

        Cognitive pathology. It is deliberate. They are very dangerous zealots who will say and do anything to achieve their ends. They are perhaps cowards, in that the ones doing the urging have absolutely no intentions of being the ones who do the fighting they so clearly desire. But no one should mistake their commitment and aims: they want anyone who disagrees with them put in a camp. They are almost finished dehumanizing us; their all agree we are bad people, and they all say so publicly and proudly. Would any of them protest if someone were to advocate rounding us up and putting us on the trains?

        You must must must understand how dangerous this is. The 20th century is a display of government excess leading to the deaths of hundreds of millions. These are the people who want to disarm us. Why?

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        • kneejerkreactionary says:

          Occam’s Razor. Simply explain the DC problem: Selfishness. Overcome that and you will defeat the evil that underlies Washington.

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          • Judith says:

            It is basic human nature to put ones own needs first. It is basic human nature to protect ones own from harm. It is also basic human nature to go along to get along.

            When one adheres to higher standards and ideals than those that serve basic human nature, it lifts the bar quite high for others to follow. And those who enjoy the status quo will naturally balk at anything that threatens it.

            To further complicate matters, everybody believes they are correct and blames the other side for all their problems. If we were to treat this situation with the delicacy and diplomacy it deserves , I believe that would break the logjam, as there is plenty of *blame* to go around. And we patriots need all the support we can get. #UNiparty


            • kneejerkreactionary says:

              The easy way to avoid truth is to relativize it. Make it the individual’s responsibility for finding it. What is needed is a realization the objective Truth exists and we are all invited to accept it or reject it. Unfortunately many today have accepted the siren call of relativism.

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      • and honorable among the atheists/Satanists…


      • Roger Holberg says:

        As you are the leader of the Tharks, I defer to you and your insightful views. However, I would suggest that, if these presstitutes can bring themselves to do it, there would be lucrative rewards for them if they would now, rather than admitting the flaws in their previous undertaking, start reporting on what actually went on here. It’s certainly newsworthy and could partially redeem their own reputations, which they have destroyed.

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    • Dutchman, you are right as rain! Even the most perfect evidence would never be acceptable to them. The question is, what will they do next ? Civil war?

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    • Dutchman, you are right as rain! Even the most perfect evidence would never be acceptable to them. The question is, what will they do next ? Civil war?

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      • Dutchman says:

        We are already IN a ‘Civil war’, its just a mostly non shooting, or “cold” Civil War.
        Similar to the 3 rd World War, aka “the COLD war”.
        Actually, whats going on in America isn’t limited to America, witness Brexit, the yellow vests, the rise and successes of Nationalist/populist parties around the World, Hong Kong protests.

        My view is that we are actually experiencing WW4; Globalist Conmunists Vs. The Deplorables.

        Just as the “Cold war” was different from previous Civil wars, THIS one is different, yet.

        And, just as WW1 planted the seeds that resulted in WW2, the end of the “Cold war”, or WW3, laid the groundwork for THIS, WW4 war.
        CCP in China SAW what Reagan did, to dissolve the Soviet Union. And they attempted to try to preempt it happening to them, and in doing so sewed the seeds of their own destruction.

        DJT is, in many ways following the Reagan playbook, on a much bigger scale.

        Those who do not study, and learn from their history, are doomed to repeat it.

        We have been at war, with a coalition of enemies, for 30 years. And no, I don’t mean the terrorists, although islamist’s are PART of the coalition.

        NOW, since Nov.2016, we,are actually fighting back! And, we are winning on many fronts!

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    • Boknows says:


      Your words are truth.

      They are wrong on every issue, but fail to acknowledge any wrongdoing.

      No, I’m sorry what am I saying? Not only do they never acknowledge being wrong, they will act and postulate superiority. It’s as ugly and vile in person. I speak from first hand experience of a son-in-law who is deranged, and I’m being nice…and I’m far from alone in that impression. It’s as if they can’t help being a full blown embarrassment to themselves.

      Their 2020 slogan need be:

      The Democrat Party
      Determined to be Wrong
      Determined to Lie
      We test your Stupidity to vote for us

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      • Dutchman says:

        I know, I have a sister. Bizarre, deranged and insane really are the,appropriate words.

        And yes, the superiority they exude, without any self awareness of how haughty, and “holier than thou” they sound and are.
        They got no platform, beyond give up everything pleasurable, and live in shame over your whiteness.
        They got no Candidates.
        They got NOTHING, and its hard to say who is going to be more shocked by the results in 2020, them,…or US.
        But, one things for sure, from Nov. 4 th on, NOBODY, ever again is going to refer to PDJT’s,support as “65 million”.

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        • Dwayne Diesel says:


          Same here. I think all have them in our family. I have an Uncle and a cousin who paraded for impeachment. I asked for a crime. They only repeated Schiff’s talking points. I asked for proof. Crickets. When I used source documents and facts to counter their wailings they said I was compromised.

          Interestingly, I decided to use crimes by Obama (the spying stuff- they are not up to date on the IG report or the Mueller report or the Flynn case) but replaced Trump people where Obama people were in the story. They became irate. They got mad. Said even more reason Trump should be impeached, hanged even. Talked about arresting Trump’s family. Other politicians (I replaced Warner with Nunes) should also hang.

          After I let themselves get worked up and foaming at the mouth. I said I can show you the source documents so that you can have them at the ready. I first pulled up screen shots of the Warner and Waldman texts. I was directing their site to the text words and not those involved…..my uncle and cousin were irate. Calling for Nune’s head….that’s when I zoomed out and said, oh, I’m sorry that was from Mark Warner to Waldman a DNC operative…and oh, the others involved are all Obama people and Democrats.

          The look on their faces….magically, there tune changed and they became angry at me. I looked at them both and told them they were ignorant hypocrites. I told them it didn’t’ matter which party these people belonged too, they needed to hang. My uncle and cousin though….magically were back tracking from their stance.

          Blind and ignorant. It blows my mind. Both are intelligent people yet eat the BS up.

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          • Dwayne Diesel says:

            Excuse my misspellings and typos.

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          • Dutchman says:

            Good trick you pulled, but proves the point I have repeatedly commented on.

            When you evoke a STRONG EMOTIONAL responce, the part of our brain that engages in critical thinking goes “Dormant”; it simply goes “quiet”.
            Nueroscietists have shown this with PET scans, but con artists and politicians (repeating myself) have known this for ever.
            This why you see intelligent people falling for the email scam, from the Nigerian bank teller. Strong feeling (greed) subsumes and mutes the critical thinking part of brain, that would otherwise say “Hold it,…how likely is it an African Government minister, with 14 million dollars, who died with no heirs, would have MY last name? Gee, SHOULD be easy enough to google, to confirm?”
            But, being silent they fall for this or “lost wallet”, “3 card monte” or other cons.

            It doesn’t have to be GREED, ANY emotion, sympathy, anger, jelousy, A SENSE OF INJUSTICE, any emotion, if strong enough, will silence critical thinking.

            Put simply, a STRONG desire to believe, causes this defensive denial you and I see with our liberal relatives.

            Any time you see people making spescious, illogical arguments, and getting emotional, even resorting to impugning those they are arguing with (“you are compromised”) its reasonable to suspect they are in denial.

            I have seen people attack the LE officer who was telling them a loved one had died, suddenly.

            Some need to see the body, to accept the unpleasant truth, but for some, even THAT isn’t enough, as they insist its a wax likeness.
            I call it the “delta dawn” phenominom, from the song.

            It can be VERY difficult to break thru, and often only the passage of time will work.

            With MASSIVE #’s of people experiancing TDS, and the Media FEEDING it, its hard to see how we will ever cure these people.

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            • Your Tour Guide says:

              I just got back from visiting my parents for Christmas.

              My dad, and especially my 86 year old mother watch
              wall to wall MSNBC. My mother has Rachel Madcow’s
              new book sitting in front of the TV. What Sundance wrote
              above regarding Maddow being outed will never be seen
              by either of them. Just doesn’t fit into their scheme of things.

              I despise with every ounce of my being all the damage to
              what could be occuring in this country due to the MSM. To
              the divisions in families and friendships caused by all their
              elaborate non stop lies.

              The only thing that kept me sane the last few days was that
              I saved up stories about my family and old family acquaintances,
              and would start off with ….
              “Would you like to hear about what happened to…..
              (name person, town, event, old building ).

              That took up a lot of time, and the TV went off. I also managed
              to keep dad away from the TV by having him drive me around
              Dayton to see all the awful tornado damage. Businesses and
              plants tore apart. Hundreds upon hundreds of homes with
              new siding, missing entire upstairs, vacant lots where they
              bulldozed them. Toured Northridge, Trotwood, Stanley Avenue
              industrial area, Butler Township. Saw many old neighborhood
              haunts demolished. The Living Room, a Northridge nightclub
              that’s been in business since the early 70s is gone. A friend from
              high school’s dad had an AMC dealership. The showroom still
              was there long after AMC folded up. It’s completely wrecked
              now. Took pictures to send to some other classmates.

              Anyway, loved seeing my family. Hated seeing what all the
              tornadoes did to Dayton, and kept my parents distracted enough
              that MSNBC wasn’t on in my presence more then 1/2 hour. Total.

              Would love, love, love to see Maddow and others like her
              exposed. Worry, though what it would do to people like my parents.


              • Dutchman says:

                It will be a tremendous shock, if it ever gets to the point of somehow red pilling all the people like your family.

                How will it happen, I sure don’t know.
                Still America survived Revolutionary war, Civil War, WW2. so perhaps we can survive this, and be stronger for it?


                • Your Tour Guide says:

                  It’s gone on far longer then I realized.

                  When I was in high school, we went to our summer
                  place at the lake in Kentucky. My mom was delighted
                  to see that the Lexington Courier and Times? had
                  published the entire transcripts of the Watergate Hearings.

                  Insisted that dad pull over the Kingswood Estate station
                  wagon so that we could buy 2 copies of the paper to take
                  home. One was for my Grandma, who was a die hard Nixon

                  Once we got home, for about a week after dad got off work,
                  the 3 sibling that were left at home that was old enough to
                  read got put to work. Mom and dad would prop themselves
                  up on pillows in their bedroom, and each of us was assigned
                  which co conspirator that we were going to be that night.

                  I vividly remember nobody wanted to be John Dean, We’d
                  actually fight over who got stuck being him. Mitchell was another
                  one nobody wanted to read. Anyway, we playacted out the
                  Watergate hearings in my folks bedroom once the Lexington
                  paper printed them out. I think that “All The President’s Men”
                  and the Watergate hearings were the beginning of their
                  brainwashing regarding the media. It got worse when “The
                  West Wing” came on. Dad never missed it. They’ve
                  regarded the media as the good guy crusaders for so long that
                  it’s impossible to change their minds. Oh, and mom’s in
                  beginning Alzheimers, so there’s that.


          • Jeff says:

            “Compromised.” So basically your own family is claiming that you’re a Russian asset.
            Savage has been right all along. Liberalism is a mental disease. I sympathize with your situation.

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          • Judith says:

            The problem with such people is that they positively crave their Diploma from The Wizard of all Things Sustainable, just as an addict craves his poisoned vein, and dagummit, who are we Deplorables to point out the folly of this meaningless exercise?

            After all, their Emperor has such FINE clothes, mind you, and he has assured them of their OWN superiority, even as they surrender the most basic ability to think and to question. How can they even contemplate that he is as full of hot air, as his pockets are full of bribes?

            After all, nobody is more noble, nobody more intelligent, nobody more selfless than.. drumroll please.. Nancy Pelosi! ACKKK Badda Boom


    • That’s why I never waste any oxygen arguing with liberals. They’re brain dead.

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      • Dwayne Diesel says:

        I try not too. But, I’m only human and lower myself to their standards and argue. IDK why. You can have the actual source docs in front of you, on screen, and they will still deny.

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    • X XYZ says:

      America has become the Land of Denial and the media is just a reflection of that reflexive defense mechanism.

      People who are psychologically healthy are those who are not in denial – e.g. not being afraid to admit when they are wrong. Unfortunately, our adversarial system of law, including courts and government are officially based upon, or at least intensely biased toward never admitting that you are wrong. We might consider this as a trickle down effect, affecting all of society. Just as sewage runs downhill into a cesspool…

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      • Dutchman says:

        Yes, if you are in an car accident, do NOT say to the other driver “I am sorry”, cause it can later be interpreted as an admission of wrongdoing.

        Its a terrible thing, you can’t engage in any interaction anymore, without considering the “legal consequences”.

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    • An important circularity is involved here. Leftists believe themselves to be morally and intellectually superior to others, specifically because of their political positions. But why are those the Left’s positions? Because they are morally and intellectually unassailable — self-evident, and therefore beyond any possibility of refutation. Of course, those who oppose those positions must therefore be stupid, evil, or both. That little chain of “reasoning” cements Leftists into a position that forbids them to admit to error. Such an admission would destroy them.

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      • Dutchman says:

        I accept MOST of your premise, theres just one thing that puzzles me; the #walkaways.

        Either they NEVER really ascribed to the mental circularity you describe, and somehow supported Dem. Policy positions without falling into the superiority trap,…..

        OR, they somehow, at some point REALISED and broke out of the circular “superiority trap”, and now ‘see the error of their ways’.

        Its VITAL we know the answer, ans seriously someone SHOULD be studying this. The answer holds great promise, for curing addituonal millions, as well as this country of TDS.

        IF the first, a screening test for those,who CAN be cured, if the latter, well perhaps there is hope for the likes of my sister!

        SOMEONE needs to get ON this, right away. Start with studying those who HAVE walked away, and go from there?

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        • Ackman419 says:

          I was a lib, but never felt any superiority. Mostly I was anti war.
          When I started my own business and had children, I began my walk away.

          The last steps of my walk were taken at university, where I was surrounded by people who actually hated my conservative views. While I was absolutely crushing my classes, running a business, and raising babies, my so called peers were whining about SJW issues. There paths were anathema to me, but I was respectful regardless.

          I’ll never forget when I voiced support for the Govt shutdown under Obammy back in 2014(?). I was actually booed in class and the professor asked me “what about the poor people who depend on the govt?” That sealed my deal right there.

          Currently, I still run the same “from home” business on a property I purchased in 2016, and am raising my young kids WITH my wife of 8 years.


          • Dutchman says:

            Well, that gets to the heart of my question, I guess. How many #walkaways were never REALLY “with” the Dems, to begin with (such as yourself, based on your comment) and how many are ‘genuine’ conversions; they totally bought into ALL the sjw crap, and then gradually or suddenly realised they were buying crap?

            Don’t know the answer,…probably LOT of the former, but SOME of the latter.

            My longstanding view has been that only MAYBE 20-30% of the American populace are what I would call “hardcore” leftists.

            The rest are either one issue dems, as I would describe you, or dems because parents are, etc.

            MAYBE the hardcore has increased, a LITTLE due to propoganda media and education indoctrination, but I am unsure how much.

            I THINK the 2020 election will tell the tale, as Dems seem to have done everything they can, to drive out all but the most hardcore or decieved.

            We’ll see what happens,….


        • Tony says:

          I wrote a longish reply to your question Dutchman, but it didn’t make it past the censors: not sure why, but I’ll try to be briefer now. I have a lifetime on the left, protesting both Gulf Wars and the Wall Street debacle. To me the neocons were the scourge of the planet. By the end of Obama however, it was completely clear to me that the Democrats were equally compromised, that we had a deep state one party system. The left had been sold a line. I supported Trump simply because he challenged this. My disgust for the liberal consensus is as high as yours. I can corroborate every story here about your zombie mind-controlled liberal friends. I have been hardly able to speak my mind for 3 years on this. However, if normal-sized facts won’t change the liberal consensus on Trump, bigger facts will. I think we’re living in an extended psyop designed to bring this about. It is an incredible process, a worldwide process. I believe it is a human revolution, not a conservative one. But it is a revolution that had to be led by conservatives. “We the people” had to be vindicated so the liberal elite power structure could be smashed. There was no room on our side for the anti-establishment left to achieve this. I think this was historical contingency. When the deeper scandals emerge, the center left and RINO’s will collapse and journalism will have to flip. Human beings will be left: we will still disagree, but the old power structure will be gone. Some on the left understand this and their numbers will grow. It *IS* a revolution. It will be documented. We will be living in a new world where the history books will be being rewritten. Hundreds of new PhD topics. Humanity awakened. I see no other path than this.


          • Dutchman says:

            I, too have been disappointed by having Great, cogent and lengthy posts get lost in the ether;-(
            I figure WP is the price we pay, in addition to DONATIONS, for the sublime pleasure of getting to hang out, on this fabulous Treehouse.
            I have long wondered that the extreme liberal base continues to put up with regularly getting shafted by the,Dem party.

            The Uniparty uses,”wedge” issues to divide us into two groups. Wedge issues are issues which evoke a STRONG emotional reaction. Immigration, entitlements, War and National Security, 2A.

            A STRONG emotional reaction causes the part of the brain that engages in critical thinking to go dormant.

            Then, they run Candidates who appeal to those emotions, who take “positions”; that is “talk a good game” ON those issues.

            They use gerrymandering, splitter candidates during primaries, and a # of other election manipulations, to insure the election comes down to the ‘lesser of two weavils’; a mediocre D Uniparty candidate, or a mediocre R candidate.

            Bottom line; they created both ‘bases’, and keep them ginned up and voting, by saying “Hey, at least we,are better than THE OTHER GUYS, when in reality, based on ACTIONS, there IS NO DIFFERENCE.

            Both faces of the two faced Uniparty have the same agenda, as George said “Its a big club, and you ain’t in it!”

            But they overshot, at the 11th hour, have and continue to expose their true nature, and they have no idea how to get us back to say,…10 years ago so they can have a “do over”.

            So yeah, they are dead men and women walking. They blew it, and too many people are waking up to their con, and saying “NO”.
            They CAN’T prevail, long term. 2020 election is going to destroy them. NOT because PDJT will win, although he will.

            But because,WE, all of US, will realise just how,strong we are, and how,weak THEY are.

            THAT is what they truly fear, about 2020 election.

            No one will say “65 million” in reference to PDJT’s support, again.

            So yes, they DO fear Us, the Deplorables, and with good reason.
            I share your optimism, frankly this is a lot larger than whether some people go to jail.
            It breaks my heart, seeing the two sides of injustice so prominent; people being wrongly prosecuted, AND people who SHOULD be hung, walking free.
            But, this is a battle for the future of HUMANITY.
            Its THAT big, and as I said I believe the outcome is certain, how we get there is what makes it interesting.
            Keep the good,spirit my friends, we ARE winning.


    • Phil Bacon says:

      They’re all psychotic. They’ll go to their graves clutching all of these lies to their chests. Resolute, clench-jawed, eyes squeezed shut. No amount of therapy will help. In an earlier time they would be locked up for their own protection.


    • zekness says:

      left dem prog statist HOMOSEXUAL:


      it’s whatever we mean the truth to be.


      • Dutchman says:

        But wait, theres transgender,…gender fluidity,….gender state of mind, has -0- to do with whats between your legs,…..

        So lets have drag queens read story hour in public libraries, and use female toilet/changing facilities.

        What could POSSIBLY go wrong?

        Because truth is what we say it is, and it can change whenever we say it does.

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    • Bobtrath says:

      Their way back is not up to them, it is up to us, including the Rep party. Continuing to play by Rotary Club rules while they use any means neccessary will result in more or worse of the same. That is why Barr, Durham, and regrettably, Lindsey Graham are so important. The question becomes, if they fail us, how do we move on and throw them under the bus also.

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      • Dutchman says:

        Firstly, I would suggest by recognising unpleasant truths.

        They won’t “fail us”, they WILL deliberately undermine us.

        Refute the “Party of Stupid” and “Queensbury rules” explanation for the behavior of D.C. RepubliCON politicians.

        Admit, to ourselves, that the,RepubliCAN party has been disfunctional, at least since the “Rockefeller Republicans” of the ’60’s, and that while PDJT enjoys unprecedented support of the Base, that most of the,Republican party leadership are against him, and in need of purging.

        In other words, quit accepting excuses for the betrayal of the base, by the leadership.

        McConnell and Graham are as much Globalist/elitists, and Romney expresses the true views of McConnell.

        Judge on ACTIONS, not WORDS. Then, throw them under the bus on election day.

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    • moray watson says:

      Power corrupts. And absolute power corrupts absolutely.


      • Dutchman says:

        Absolutely. And, while many focus on GREED, I have,argued here that the,DRAW to D.C. for the top players especially, isn’t GREED, its an insatiable lust for POWER, and the resulting wealth is just a measure, and a tool OF the power.

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  2. Sherri Young says:

    Sorry. The Babylon Bee must be tuned to this wavelength.

    Liked by 14 people

    • mr.piddles says:

      I have to say: when Tucker Carlson or whoever rolls out the weekly Best Of CNN, it is quite entertaining. So… in a weird way… CNN, MSNBC, et al are pretty valuable.

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  3. Bob, Esq. says:

    When Simpson and Fusion GPS coordinate the actions of a subversive law enforcement and intelligence bureaucracy with disloyal politicians and a co-conspiring press, you get full blown domestic psychological warfare—waged by the very institutions we entrusted to protect us—stripping us of our country, home, and sense of self by forcing our retreat into a pit of delusion.

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    • ann says:

      Yes Bob, self evident, yet none dare call it for what it is.

      Intellectual cowards at the top level of command .


      • Bob, Esq. says:

        To “dare call it” for what it is, you need at least two things:

        First, you’d need a legal apparatus both capable of prosecuting the case as well as quarantined from the corruption. The Judge Advocates General is all that’s left. Fortunately, Comey’s actions on July 5, 2016 make a jurisdictional argument possible.

        Second, you’d need to show incontrovertible evidence of scienter, i.e. malice, in furtherance of a treasonable conspiracy to affect the outcome of the 2016 presidential election and thence overturn it through subsequent mutinous measures calculated to remove the legally elected president; thereby subverting the constitution and laws of the United States. The evidence must leave no doubt whatsoever. You’d need something like a tacit confession by the “counselor to the coup” (i.e. James “Mr. FISA himself” Baker).

        Hidden within the carefully chosen words of Footnote 8 is an elephant—the obvious and embarrassing truth that the entire “Russia interfered in the 2016 election” narrative is a hoax sponsored by Glenn Simpson, Fusion GPS and Perkins Coie for their “private client” Hillary Clinton. It is the incontrovertible “documentary evidence of political bias and improper motive” that Horrowitz overlooked. But for a treasonable conspiracy to affect the outcome of the 2016 presidential election, and thence overturn it, Footnote 8 would not exist.


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        • ann says:

          Indeed I am interested, Bob.

          You suggest a path forward within our extant legal system, far preferable to
          my inchoate ‘Che Guevara’’ish proposals. .

          incoherence in law & constitutional matters does not negate my basic point: as currently constructed and interpreted, fundamental principles : checks & balances, citizen control, representation before taxation, are no longer functioning.

          In my opinion, citizens cannot vote ourselves free of a monetised Congress, that was ratified by SCOTUS antiquated equation of money with free speech.

          This powerful surveillance capability also led to a subterranean enmeshment between the three branches, and appears to me to have empowered the JD, DSI to morph into a latter day Praetorian Guard.

          I’m appalled by former & present dept command’s hubris. boasting & crowing about their higher duty, as if their role is designated arbitrars of our fate.

          Something is very wrong, I’ve known this since old enough to vote.
          Heretofore, legal solutions appear (to me) to be cognitive boxes that constrain our ability to rehab.
          This elevation of legal form over function encourages denial of the aversive reality we should be confronting.

          What sane country would even dare propose Hillary Clinton as a viable leader?
          Or deny her citizens the basic right to control our borders?
          Or by decree & judicial fiat, , impose arbitrary funding of illegal migrants & sanctuary states? ,

          Time to look clearly at function, rather than courtroom theory, in my opinion.

          I appreciate your impressively informed input. Thank you.
          And Merry Christmas, Bob, 🇺🇸🙋🏼‍♀️🦅⚖️✝️


          • Bob, Esq. says:

            Merry Christmas to you too Ann.

            I agree with your notion of shifting focus to “function” — but that too requires foundational theory to justify the shift.

            For example, you said:

            “as currently constructed and interpreted, fundamental principles : checks & balances, citizen control, representation before taxation, are no longer functioning.”

            The law of non-contradiction holds that two contradictory propositions cannot be true simultaneously. If what you said is true, and I believe it is, especially as of July 5, 2016; and if the founding of our country is true, then the two cannot exist simultaneously.

            Something happened on July 5, 2016 (when Comey exonerated Clinton based on laws existing solely within his imagination.) That something forms the basis of a jurisdictional argument.

            “elevation of legal form over function encourages denial of the aversive reality”

            It also encourages violation of the law of non-contradiction.

            An American, by definition, exists under a government of laws; not the dominion of bureaucrats—as a Citizen of the United States; not Property of the Deep State. Since truth is the agreement between knowledge and its object, citizens of “a nation of laws” are entitled to be ruled by rational legal principle in verifiable agreement with facts— not, defrauded and dominated by the mere say-so of disloyal fiduciaries entrusted with positions of power over them.

            The law of non-contradiction says we cannot be both. There are jurisdictional consequences for the deep state’s contradicting our founding principles; which is why JAG not only can, but must take jurisdiction.

            Your avatar links to a blog “notes to self” — I’ll send you my email address there.

            Thanks again for the thoughtful reply, and Merry Christmas,


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            • ann says:

              Regret my long Delay in reply to your erudite explanation,
              shortly after you posted this, unexpectedly my recent knee replacement failed & was redone. ,
              So haven’t been on line until today Jan 5.

              I’ve mulled over your fascinating post , although my lucidity varies. Ha!

              Context was how to go about building a case for “a foundational theory to justify the shift” to applying military code of justice.

              I got diverted by “truth is the agreement between knowledge and it’s object.”
              I don’t dispute that, but if I was a juror ,
              you’d need to walk me through that, in several contexts. .

              not an attorney, but I hear you explaining this following
              The foundational argument is different, a prerequisite, as it were, for applying
              the “ law of contradiction”

              Am I tracking?
              I’m accustomed to thinking and interpreting “truth” as multifactorial, and each variable on a spectrum, with multiple outcomes of probability predicated on raw data & multifactoral interactions ,

              Not intending to be obtuse: just describing , or paraphrasing, w research lingo,
              how I , and most people intuitively reason, assess , decide.

              cognitive functioning is at some level reduced from
              quantified probabilities to
              a 0/1 , as you point out with this law of non contradiction.

              From which flows” the basis of a jurisdictional argument”. There are jurisdictional consequences for the ‘deep state’ , a supra? exo- constitutional operational “Blob” of individuals acting as supra Authorities.

              I fully concur, our state is functioning outside constitutional boundaries: prima faci to anyone listening to the DoJ refuse Congressional oversight,

              the gov & individual actions in just the Clinton Intell breach are compelling evidence to me,

              But I’ve noted Comey, for some reason, draws the ire of attorneys. For me it’s Sally Yates, the overriding indiduals who had the sole authority and duty to say NO!

              Sending you very belated Merry Christmas and highly optimistic forecast for the Year 2020.

              PS. Embarassingly, my notes to self is a bit of a dumping ground I use occasionally for initial outlines random thoughts & rough drafts. My purpose originally was to use the app to write a memoire of my father & our relationship. I then realised the contents are accessible & the WordPress format too complex for that purpose.
              I’ll try to access my email acct & find your address.
              I shall blame the pain meds for meandering on
              Cheers for this fresh year. Bob, Esq. We have come far.

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        • zekness says:

          sign me up.

          this is what is really needed here…some superior legal arguments that look at this entire charade down to its roots..and locate what criminal statutes apply.

          I think this is a very interesting line of justice worth pursuing.

          at the very least, we can begin to understand how the dark left abuses standards of conduct..and what actually insulates that…

          there is something that bothers all of us..this obvious avoidance of the DOJ OIG to dive into the bias are with more vigor. It’s shameful one has to literally read between the lines and examine footnotes rather than getting oral testimony from him under oath, to tie some of this together.

          why the obvious reluctance to just state it in black and white in the top summary?

          I know I know..DOJ OIG has a long history of washing the dirty laundry..I get that.

          so, with that, perhaps it is left to active observers to put it in perfectly clear legal context.

          the key questions: can bias as evidenced in the investigation, supported by material and fact witness be used to indict criminal conduct.

          if so, how?

          if not, what is missing to make that case?

          complicated…? I don’t know..seems pretty obvious to me OIG went over backwards to avoid the subject.

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    • X XYZ says:

      Yes. As I characterized it above, America has become the Land of Denial.

      Liked by 1 person

  4. X XYZ says:

    Eisenhower, who was a TRUE war hero and a great president, warned us of the “military-industrial complex”

    Today, after decades of cultivation, we now have the government-media complex. Same as the USSR did. Except that the USSR only had ONE channel, and we now have many – nearly all broadcasting the same government propaganda.

    Welcome to the USSA: The United Socialist States of America.

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  5. mr.piddles says:

    “There’s a cognitive pathology that clings to denial as a survival mechanism at this level.”

    Digging under the surface, I three specific causes at play.

    1. ) Pure, unadulterated HATRED of Donald J. Trump and what he presents… and probably above all, the people who voted for him. At least the 30+ Million (with an “M”) U.S. Citizens that Hillary Clinton herself, shamelessly and with great self-indulgence, tagged with a particular, hateful pejorative. The hatred is systemic.

    2.) Pure, unadulterated FEAR of Donald J. Trump. Monica Crowley drove home the point three years ago. In so many words: Trump is an EXISTENTIAL THREAT to The Establishment in general, and to the Mainstream Media in particular. Her assertion, IIRC, was that the MSM have lost control of the narrative, and that is their self-effected path to destruction. And haven’t we seen that come to pass? They’ve been exposed as the propagandists that they are. Even Harvard University agrees, to an extent.

    3.) Perhaps above all: all roads lead to the Obama White House… #Spygate. It’s the greatest open secret in Washington, D.C. It’s Eric Ciaramella x 1,000,000,000,000. Everybody knows #Spygate happened, why (see #1 and #2), and pretty much how it was carried out… though the specific details of which Western Intelligence “professors” and which FBI agents and whatnot are really irrelevant to the overall truths of the matter. Everybody knows what Fusion GPS is, and what they do… the RINO Establishment players and objectives… the rampant D.C. corruption… the Weissman/Mueller setup… all of it.

    In the concrete: self-preservation of “The System” as a whole is the ultimate goal. Of course, destroying Trump in the process would be a nice bonus, as it would validate their Elitist-fueled control over the 30+ Million. And since the MSM have ultimately lost control over The Narrative, what we can so obviously see is a combination of desperation, and burying their heads (somewhere) in the hopes that it all… just.. goes… away. Indeed, “denial as a survival mechanism”.

    Don’t look to the MSM for “journalism”… that ship has sailed. And isn’t it so funny that that particular ship is so far out to sea and is currently sinking?

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    • 1 Observer says:

      Piddles my Good man (think plummy/Churchillian voice),

      I would put # threeee as onnne, toooo as onnne too, think chicken or the egg? And onnne as threeee, there’s a good chap : )

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    • GB Bari says:

      It isn’t sinking nearly fast enough for me. Or for most Deplorables, I would assume.

      Liked by 2 people

    • Republicanvet91 says:

      To truly understand how dangerous the media in its current state is, just think about how little it took to push many to vow to resist without regard to consequences.

      The first reporter chased out of the White House Rose Garden for daring to question Duh Won!
      Reporters actually spied on by his administration.
      Inspectors General in at least 4 agencies fired, with one publicly smeared by the White House so he would shut up. Congress yawned hoping nobody would notice their lack of oversight.
      A rodeo clown fired and barred for life from working as a rodeo clown for daring to wear an Obama mask in his act.

      Every time the media helped pile on and happily join in to the destruction of anyone opposing them.

      This grew significantly on college campuses once the little brats figured out they could shut down anyone they disagreed with. It grew into violence in some places, or demands for safe spaces and special treatment so as to not have their ideas challenged in any way.

      By the time of Benghazi and the IRS targeting, Congress was so useless as to be nonexistent. The media helped every step of the way.

      All of this gave way to his little minions doing whatever they wanted to further their goals no matter how big or small, and without regard to consequences.

      It really didn’t take much to push in that direction as long as the media was helping.

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  6. Jase says:

    It’s even worse when you realise that the millions pumped into Fusion GPS, to pay its extensive stable of tame MSM journalists to pump out lies and propaganda, is almost certainly taxpayer dollars looted by Obama and Clinton.
    American taxpayers have not only had to endure three years of a coup, Antifa domestic terrorism and a deluge of MSM agitprop, they’v hab to pay for it.

    Liked by 6 people

    • owtolunch says:

      When you look a little deeper into the money trails it leads to a whole trove of players.. Atlantic Council, Dan Jones, McCain Institute, Lawfare, foreign donors, USAID money, Soros, Banking and financial brokers… Corporate donors and media executives. The tangled web is immense.

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  7. exdeadhead says:

    US establishment media organizations, being a collective from womb (Columbia Journalism School) to tomb (print media, television broadcast media), have collectively become our version of Pravda, power elite sanctioned information. Trump and Trump witch hunt are main streaming awareness of establishment media corruption, a tremendous service for the republic. Walter Cronkite, the most trusted name in news for a while, though not trustworthy, was still able to hold his audience’ trust. Trump has rendered this such deception impossible for the foreseeable future, and the posers are incensed about it. Losing trust, people find their information elsewhere and become open to alternative perspectives.

    Talk to those who will converse, with respect to the greatest extent possible. (I know, hard.) More and more corroborating facts are coming available for use, getting well beyond “conspiracy theory”.

    Aside: Thank you President Trump for this and many blessings. Your story is bigger than life, an American story. Prayers you will be able to preserve this union (politically disembowel the Marxist left).

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    • zorrorides says:

      Not a personal aside, but: I didn’t know a person could be an ex deadhead. What if Weather Report Suite began playing Right Now?

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      • Abolition Man says:

        Zorro, I saw the Dead at Altamont and saw Janice Joplin sit in with them for a set up in Santa Rosa just a few months before she died. Went to every Dead concert I could but I started losing interest after Ron Mckernan (Pigpen) died. The sound changed more over time until I hardly recognize them anymore. After a few years of no concerts I even quit doing drugs but I still haven’t overcome all the harmful effects. The CIA was able to get tens of thousands of naive Americans to take part in their mind control drug experiments by INTENTIONALLY introducing key opinion and entertainment leaders to drugs like LSD. I would say that there is a strong connection between the drugs and the current state of our nation; too many folks have their heads so far in the clouds they can no longer see the reality on the ground. If you want your head in the clouds I recommend climbing a mountain; it’s much easier to get back to real life afterwards!

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        • zorrorides says:

          Hello A-Man! You WERE there for the beginning of it all. I understand what you’re saying and I too show a little flak damage. I really appreciate you commenting to us, and blessings all over exdeadhead also. I grew up in Oklahoma and never saw Ron lead the band. More time, and he could have been America’s greatest rock singer. Think about Pigpen with a side band in the era of Outlaw Country. Aww man.

          I always wondered – Ron sang as himself of course – but I always thought he’d also sing for/as if he was Jerry (but better at it), at times for/as if he was Bob (but better at it).

          Seems like most everything we do before we’re thirtyfive has has a way of costing us when we are older. But I’m told God has another life for us later without the death mixed in. And for us in the aggregate here, I believe God loves America, even if we mixed up the Dead and politics into it.

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  8. Doug Amos says:

    Got at least 100 relatives and friends who believe President Trump is a racist and would vote for Hilary Clinton again; in a heartbeat. They believe in Russiagate, impeachment and are voracious for their daily climate change update. Viewing habits consist of Maggots N N; reading, the N Y Slimes and they worry that their children are not learning enough about the impending doom that fossil fuels are bringing. All of anything they know about politics is media created and sustained. if you told them Nancy Pelosi has a net worth of $238 million without ever held a job in her life that paid $400k/annum they would say you are a liar. They are joined to the media at the hip and there are millions like them. They are unconscious, incoherent and extremely dangerous.

    Liked by 11 people

    • mr.piddles says:

      I don’t think folks like those relatives need FNYT and the like for “information”… they just need it for confirmation of their inherent biases.

      Liked by 1 person

    • BobR says:

      The cultural attitude that has to change is the non prosecution of the law breakers.

      Liked by 4 people

      • joebkonobi says:

        Yep, prosecutions, convictions and sentences must happen in a big way. Otherwise the media (co-conspirators) will never be forced to admit to their false facts and outright lies They will never accept any evidence unless and until it is validated in a trial. Even then, they will likely not accept it and blame it on a partisan AG, Prosecutor, Jury, etc. in the tank for the Orange Man.

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        • jeff montanye says:

          i think there may be a role for truth commissions as was used in south africa after the fall of apartheid. if not, the trials, should they come, must be scrupulously fair, sort of like an anti-impeachment inquiry.

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    • bessie2003 says:

      I got relatives and friends just like that; and your last sentence is exactly spot on.

      Liked by 1 person

    • Amy2 says:

      My sister was here for the Christmas holiday. I was telling her about all the “Epstein didn’t kill himself” messages/pictures that are on Facebook and Twitter. She made a comment about (President) Trump being involved with him. When I started to explain about Clinton being on the manifest, and Trump having booted him from Mar-a-lago, she didn’t want to hear it. She WANTS to believe that PDT is a scumbag and Clinton wasn’t…..unbelievable. I feel your pain.

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    • theirs minds is more polluted than average Russians some 60 yrs ago…Dough Amos.. unbelievable what dems/school system/msm accomplish…

      Liked by 1 person

    • X XYZ says:

      “Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.” – George Carlin

      Liked by 2 people

    • Dennis Leonard says:

      I must say,you have quite the extended family?”Got at least 100 relatives and friends “


  9. GuessAgain says:

    Question: In page xii of “above” IG report: “We will separately report on those investigations as they are concluded………” Did that happen? OR did Wray bury it???


  10. Paul says:

    Cancel your cable subscription and out them out of business, otherwise you get more of the same


  11. Don McAro says:

    Hands up don’t shoot


  12. Herbert Kroll says:

    Ali Watkins: a modern day ‘honeypot’. I wonder who she was working for, spending her time with James Wolfe. It is not known to the public that Watergate started off as an investigation of a Washington honeypot spy ring. “Sexual blackmail reached its apogee during the Nixon years, and may have played a key part in triggering the Watergate scandal. A theory first seriously advanced by investigative reporter Jim Hougan in his 1984 book, ‘Secret Agenda’,holds that employees of the Democratic National Committee spent time during the 1972 Presidential campaign setting up dates between Democratic officials and classy call girls who operated out of the neighboring Columbia Plaza apartments. He speculates that the CIA was keeping tabs on the many dignitaries and high-level officials who patronized the prostitutes; also monitoring them, in all likelihood, was a private eye employed by James McCord, head of security for the Nixon re-election campaign. Watergate, wrote Hougan, ‘was not so much a partisan political scandal as it was, secretly, a sex scandal, the unpredictable outcome of a CIA operation that, in the simplest terms, tripped on its own shoelaces. His theory was amplified by authors of the best-seller ‘Silent Coup’ and endorsed on the speaker circuit by Watergate burglar Gordon Liddy. They hold that when details of a Columbia Plaza prostitution ring became known to local law enforcement after the chance arrest of one major participant, White House Counsel John Dean sent the burglars into the DNC to learn more – either to blackmail the Democrats, or to discover what they knew about the involvement of his fiancée with one of the prostitutes. Dean then led the entire Watergate cover-up, hoodwinking not only prosecutors but his fellow White House colleagues, who never suspected what he was up to.”

    The least you can say about Jonathan Marshall’s historical overview of ‘Sex scandals and sexual blackmail in America’s deep politics’ is that it’s most definitely a great read!

    Click to access lob73-scandals-blackmail.pdf

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  13. Jury Nullification says:

    One option is to put the brunt of it on the hell ravaged shoulders of he who shall not be named (except to say, Songbird) and pile as much blame as possible on a dead Republican (INO) in the hopes of saving the Big D brand.
    It wont work, but nothing they have tried has up to this point either.


  14. Bob, Esq. says:

    Simpson’s company, Fusion GPS, spells out the organizing principle and mechanics of the counterintelligence state it sustains as well as the Russia collusion coup that it spawned.

    • “Fusion,”
    • As in Fusion center. Fusion centers came into vogue after 9/11 when deep state bureaucrats used a terrorist attack to knock down the wall between NSA omniscience from FBI omnipotence.

    • As in: “We put together a fusion center at CIA that brought NSA and FBI officers together with CIA to make sure that those proverbial dots would be connected.” — John Brennan, 8/18/18

    • “GPS,” as in navigate.
    • As in “plan and direct the course of”
    • As in control—God-like control.

    Fusion GPS: The Fusing of (NSA) omniscience with (FBI) omnipotence while coordinating deep state action with circular reporting by a co-conspiring press to engineer fraudulent narratives capable of directing the course of the nation any way they choose. Fusion GPS is tantamount to domestic CIA thinly veiled under “private contractor” status for the purpose of waging psychological warfare against American citizens for the benefit of its wealthy clients.

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    • J.Thomas says:

      Excellent, Bob.

      I have wondered aloud here if the Halper ring was originally contracted by Perkins Coie…either secondary or primary to Fusion GPS. Was Halper working for Hakluyt?

      Did his spy ring coordinate with the CIA, NSA, and FBI while working as private contractors for Hakluyt and then get passed over to Gaeta at the FBI and whoever coordinated w/ CIA?

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    • Judith says:

      From what you describe, the fundamental problem here is that sheeple are so easily led astray. No backbone. No moral compass. No conviction.

      And whatever happened to our critical thinking skills? Our “culture” seems to have intellectually gone the way of the dinosaur, except it happened over several generations. A meteor would have been preferable.

      I blame the “collective.” And the internet has raised our connectivity up into the stratosphere. It is a
      psychological axiom that people are less likely to follow their own hearts when pressured to conform to the group. We default to groupthink. Deep
      State knows us all too well.

      For what it’s worth, my dad was a disillusioned Goldwater Conservative. He taught me to jump the fences that corral less discerning sheeple. I have been on the “outside looking in” for all these years, wondering how my fellow Americans came to be so naive and foolish: Have we really decided to abolish our Constitutional Republic, or is this another illusion, more Enemedia smoke and mirrors?

      The good news is that more are awakening each day to the sad truth that nothing is ever as it appears, and never was. Apparently, it takes a helluva lot of abuse to get to the breaking point.

      The one thing I can’t fathom is *why* Deep State Globalists would desire to kill the goose (us) that lays their golden eggs? That is truly a puzzle, as a strong American economy has buttressed other nations for so many years. Without *our* tax dollars and without *our* consumerism, the global economy collapses.

      Can’t have socialism without other people’s money, either. And nobody works harder than Americans. So *who* is the genius behind this *New* World Order thingie?

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      • Bob, Esq. says:

        Judith, it’s nothing more than an animal drive for domination. Just like communism, the ideology is nothing more than the lies they tell themselves and others to justify satiating their desires.

        When Glenn Simpson says Fusion GPS is a research company that “[provides] people with factual information,” he doesn’t mean “facts” as normally understood—i.e. something with objective reality that can be described, verified and demonstrated with evidence by other people.

        To the contrary:

        MR. GOWDY: Do you draw a distinction between facts and allegations?

        MR. SIMPSON: Certainly.

        MR. GOWDY: What is that distinction?

        MR. SIMPSON: Well, I mean, a fact is something that’s subjectively verifiable to all reasonable observers; and an allegation is something that hasn’t been confirmed.

        Try as you might, you will not find the word “subjective” in any definition of “fact.” Then why does Simpson define “fact” in terms of being “subjectively verifiable to all reasonable observers?” Simply put: Fusion GPS isn’t in the business of collecting objective facts for their clients. They’re in the business of fabricating subjective verification of client-favorable beliefs.

        A belief covers maters of which we have no objective knowledge, yet provides sufficient confidence to act upon it. There’s nothing in the belief itself indicating whether it’s founded in objective reality.[1] Two different men may say “Donald Trump colluded with Russia.” Yet, either man, if challenged, could produce no objective evidence for his claim. It’s merely an idea they accept as true because of the inherent trust they place in the source of their belief—i.e. our most trusted “reasonable observers.”

        To wit:

        · **those who write our laws

        · **those who execute our laws

        · **and those upon whom it is incumbent to truthfully inform us about our government and the world in which we live.

        To wit:

        · ** Elected politicians

        · **FBI/DOJ

        · **Papers of Record (e.g. New York Times, Washington Post)

        [1] John Dewey, How We Think, Ch. 1


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      • Bob, Esq. says:

        Because we never imagine that our most trusted “reasonable observers” would ever betray us, we invite their information into our minds and accept it as factual—especially when verified between them. At that point, it slips into our unconscious and becomes “part of our mental furniture;”[1] a shared subjective reality.

        Glenn Simpson and Fusion GPS deal in perception management; i.e. coordinating government action with manipulated media coverage of it to create and control public perception of reality through narrative engineering. They’re the tail that wags the dog. Put another way, Fusion GPS is a “propaganda shop” with enough “high-level relationships in government and the media” to turn fraudulent narratives—i.e. having no grounding in objective reality—into commonly held beliefs by coordinating subjective verification of them between our most trusted “reasonable observers.” In a word, Fusion GPS can make pink elephants real within the American mind.

        [1] Id.

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      • Bob, Esq. says:

        For example: If a congressional investigator claimed Putin was breeding pink elephants for the purpose of attacking American democracy, we might question his sanity.

        However, let’s say people like Glenn Simpson and Fusion GPS—as in “you tell us what your problem is and we’ll customize a research solution”—were given the power of omniscience through “private contractor” access to the FBI’s FISA database. No longer restricted to mere “open source” or “public records” information, these “modern research” specialists—equipped with the infrastructure and administrative resources needed to analyze massive amounts of data—construct a phony intelligence dossier from raw FISA information curated from the FBI’s FISA database.

        Among its obvious smears, the dossier contains anonymous hearsay accusations, allegedly drawn from high-level Russian government sourcing positioned to know,”that Putin mounted “a massive attack on the American election system and that, you know Donald Trump and his associates might have been involved.” One of the dossier’s memos alludes to Russia’s use of specially cloned pink elephant hybrids specifically bred to establish “a surreptitious channel of communication” for colluding telepathically with Donald Trump—like Aquaman, but with pink elephants.

        To create the illusion of authenticity, Simpson hires Russian specialists to craft the narrative in ‘Russian style” broken English; fortifying it with obscure but confirmable specifics embezzled from the FISA database—i.e. “accurate names and events that, while not totally secret, [are] pretty obscure [and turn] out to be on target.”

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      • Bob, Esq. says:

        Simpson & Fusion then hire a Rent-A-SPY to launder the “intelligence” marshalled by an incestuous web of perfidious bureaucrats while giving the “Pink Elephant Dossier” all the cloak and dagger appeal needed to for papers of record to justify front-page above the fold stories.

        The true violation occurs when Simpson and Fusion GPS engage in psychological warfare through the tactic of echo-chambering. By “[giving the Pink Elephant Dossier] information to FBI and congressional investigators and then telling reporters that authorities are investigating those leads,” they create the illusion that pink elephants exist through intersubjective verification. By coordinating government action based on fantasies within the pink elephant dossier and stories planted in the press, the compel acceptance of the existence of pink elephants.

        Since Americans would never suspect their government and media of committing fraud against them, Simpson and Fusion GPS can easily coordinate deep state bureaucrats, politicians and the press to defraud the nation into a snipe hunt for evidence of the president’s telepathic treasonous collusion with Putin’s pink-pachyderms—a slow motion coup that continues to this day.

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  15. Jus wundrin says:

    That’s why I call them the ministry of propaganda. There is such a gold mine to be had for a young journalist who would just dig an inch into the truth.

    Are they too afraid of going against their masters rules, or just too indoctrinated to think for themselves?


  16. kleen says:

    They are disinformation agents. Their job is not really about promoting something that exits. That would be propaganda.

    Their job is to make up stories that don’t exist, lie, smear, destroy, harass, stalk, spread their communist ideology and punish opposition.

    That’s disinformation, subversion. Pravda, Soviet Union style.

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    • X XYZ says:

      Propaganda is all-encompassing.

      Propaganda (definition from Webster’s New Collegiate): “the spreading of ideas, information or rumor for the purpose of helping or injuring an institution, a cause or a person. Ideas facts or allegations spread deliberately to further one’s cause or to damage an opposing cause.”

      The spreading of leftist (cultural Marxist, Communist, etc.) ideology is something that exists. They *are* doing that, as well as punishing their opposition. So to put it in a succinct term, it IS propaganda.

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  17. Texian says:

    I’ve figured it out..

    This hypothesis explains the rabid unhinged hatred towards Donald Trump and their inability to come to terms with it..

    All elections are rigged.. always have been..

    He beat them at their own game..


    • Judith says:

      “All elections are rigged.. always have been.” We’ve been slow on the uptake as it relates to redistricting, our federal dollars subsidizing new “workforce housing” developments aka sanctuary cities, turning red districts blue.

      And how did we allow those new Soros voting terminals with hidden algorithms to flip votes and no audit trail? Or vote harvesting (CA) after the polls have closed? Or no voter ID laws, with millions of foreigners streaming across our border illegally?

      How did we allow all this to happen?

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  18. kleen says:

    Propaganda is a see also of disinformation.
    As nouns the difference between propaganda and disinformation is that propaganda is a concerted set of messages aimed at influencing the opinions or behavior of large numbers of people while disinformation is the dissemination of intentionally false information to deliberately confuse or mislead

    MSM are disinformation agents. Pravda.

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  19. Mary Morse says:

    Very interesting story of the sub source’s sub-sub sources.
    Thank you for sharing.
    Crossfire Hurricane team interviewed sub source in Jan 2017. Washington Field Office interviewed sub source in March 2017.

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  20. roddrepub says:

    that dozens of FBI officials were actually taking bribes from the media for information
    I often wonder how many ordinary citizens know this? Also I hope Durham gives one press conference after numerous arrests of all these people. As soon as they say what do you say to the American people this was politically motivated. I hope he rams down their throat all of the bribes and back door dealings that go on between the media and government officials.

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  21. Von Henry says:

    “an inherent need for the collective left to pretend not to know things in order to retain their views.”

    I call it wilful ignorance.

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  22. Hans says:

    I recently watched Glen Becks Hydra video. I learned a lot..

    Today as I watched PBS reporting on the present day riots in Iraq I got it all. The rioters wanted a new constitution, no previously politicians allowed to run, they were the youth …the commentator was from the Atlantic counsel… it had George Soros all over it..

    I finally get it.. Time to put an end to the GLOBAL reign of terror that he once described as FUN.


  23. evergreen says:

    When Clinton was given “debate” questions in advance, did the various participants to the ploy think that they were adhering to a code of ethics? Clearly, no. They were doing what soldiers do when they storm a beach: move with deliberate force to overtake an objective. Is there an NFL referee standing on the beach calling fouls? No. Silly thought, right? Well, then dispense with the notion that journalists are honorable people pursuing level truth; they are not. They are advancing their agenda and aiding their stormtroopers by softening the beach head. That’s what journalists do.

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  24. spoogels says:

    TRUMP WAS RIGHT! In 2018 President Called on FISA Judge Collyer to Call in Comey, Yates, McCabe and Rosenstein and Press Criminal Charges


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  25. andy says:

    The problem is that the left is still in some ‘you cant disprove the dossier’ fairy tale when the reality is that the OIG report tells us that the FBI’s one lead dead-ended with the ‘sub source’ and they neither removed the allegations from the case or informed the court, AND they continued to seek fisa warrents. Good and well, with the benefit of the doubt, until they altered the CIA query regarding Carter Page.



    Sorry for the yelling. im just frustrated as anyone….

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  26. Republicanvet91 says:

    A clear example of how the media cannot move towards the truth is their treatment of John Solomon, which sometimes becomes public.
    I don’t recall where I read about it, but it was within the past 2 months in which some talking head readily accepted as credible by the left was smearing Solomon as being like a conspiracy kook.
    I think sometimes that at some point the media will recognize which way the wind is blowing and try recover. Then I read about Solomon, or remember how they ostracize others like Catherine Herridge, Sharyl Attkisson and a few others.

    On a side note, Sundance, I wish you would put names to every media type like Devlin Barrett who happily worked as tools for this spy operation. I know AP is a pathetic leftist operation masquerading as a news wire, but knowing WHO are willing participants helps whenever readers come across their byline. Certain people at the NY Times, WaPo and elsewhere are exposed by as much as what they DON’T report as what they do.

    Expose them all!

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    • J.Thomas says:

      Its time to strategize a way to deal with the MSM.

      These people are given broadcast licenses. They are very clearly abusing their licenses. They are giving incredibly valuable political in-kind political contributions in the form of oppositional propaganda.

      If there ever was a time to do this, it’s now. Its time for NBC to lose its broadcasting license. Make an example of them and the rest should self-correct.

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  27. armie says:

    You know, what’s really emerging with great clarity is how the timeline in some of the events is a tell that the storyline was already prepared and they were just waiting for an opportunity to use it. It was first obvious in the accelerated reporting on Trump’s joke about the news story that the Russians might have the “missing” Hillary e-mails. That was instantaneously spun into “proof” that Trump was working with the Russians. The story didn’t evolve over a few days period as one normally would, with reporters seeking comments, the other side replying, etc. In retrospect it seemed to be slotted into an already prepared narrative. And, on review, his comment wasn’t really a close fit with that narrative.

    The same thing happened with the Ukhrain phone call. The story line that Trump was going to misuse his office was already in place, the method to exploit that story line was also in position, they just needed him to do something that resembled their prewritten tale they could exploit. I think the Biden mention was just a stroke of good luck for them, that’s why the facts surrounding the call never matched the actual call and they had to keep finessing the language.

    Looking back over both of these incidents, it’s becoming really clear how extensive the battlefield preparation was. Once “Trump worked with the Russians” became widely believed, everything else was that much easier to sell.

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  28. Kay Sadeeya says:

    The left-wing fake news media (CNN; MSNBC; ABC; CBS; NBC; Public government subsidized propaganda) want to make it a hate-crime and racist to target their audience in telling them; Trump is not guilty of any crime; there is no Easter Bunny, or Santa Claus; the earth isn’t flat; and man hasn’t caused “global warming”, which now to them is hot and cold weather, to any critical extent which has effected mankind’s survival. Pelosi, Schiff and Nadler are expected to introduce this legislation in exchange for jobs at these media outlets for voted-out congress people in 2020 who voted for impeachment. (That is all the sarcasm I have tonight)


  29. MNBV says:

    A tiny hint for Justin: be careful when you finally p*ss off a patient President. Even if he understands your character problems, he might just use you to make an example. And you know what happens to examples, don’t you Jus?


  30. There is a key footnote in the article. Remember that WaPo is heavily left. They claim correctly everything about the Dossier, but then they pivot and say “all good points”, one of them being that Trump was not spied on. They will stick the knife in each other, but that’s the story they MUST keep under wraps because it implicates Obama big time.


  31. Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

    70% confirmed eh???
    Why keep playing hard to get and simply tell us WHICH PARTS?
    Cause it appears nothing has changed from this Richard Engel Blast from the Past…

    “This has been bouncing around for several months……
    So if I’m picking up what you’re laying down Dick……. these “allegations” reside somewhere in the
    and actually haven’t RISEN enough to even earn the distinguished media title of

    And the IG Report and Bill Barr himself……now say it never even got that high.

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  32. CharterOakie says:

    My hunch has been that Sessions, Barr & Co. (i.e. Team Trump) have all the evidence they need to indict and convict a number of deep state actors, including former and current members of Congress. The delay in dropping the hammer is in order to build the case against journo-listers and media companies as a whole while installing ever more ethical and constitutionally minded federal judges.

    Perhaps the FISA judges were instructed to sit tight for now, while also approving legitimate and well-documented FISA applications vs. many, many bad actors.

    Objective: keep the dragnet open in order to catch as many of the little criminal fish along with the big, bloated, corrupt fish (from whom they parasitically feed). Then hoist the net above the surface for all the world to see at the optimal time, exposing and destroying the corrupt Dem/Media racket prior to the 2020 elections.

    Seems quite plausible to me, and Trumpian in audacity and magnitude.
    We shall see.


    • Judith says:

      But doesn’t “destroying the corrupt Dem/Media racket prior to the election” count as election interference? At least it does when Hellary ain’t involved, which brings us right back to square one: Orange Man Bad. /s

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  33. Gary Lacey says:

    “”David Mamet referred to as an inherent need for the collective left to pretend not to know things in order to retain their views.””

    What we call ‘stupid’.


  34. Mass Psychology 101. Just remember Hitler’s Mein Kampf, which is a textbook of such things:

    “All this was inspired by the principle—which is quite true within itself—that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods.

    “It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying.”

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  35. Matt Bracken says:


  36. youme says:

    “The lies and distortions by the hatchet men at Fusion GPS”

    Fusion’s founders target me, as then-counsel to Grassley, for supposedly “pulling the strings” that led to outing their secret. They had promised never to reveal who bankrolled the project. Why? Their book concedes a “more strategic reason” to stonewall: They wanted to control the larger political narrative.


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  37. kneejerkreactionary says:

    To sum up what we have been witnessing over the last three years, Sundance presents a carefully crafted timeline of the drama with the roles played by the key characters.

    We know who the major figures are in the MSM, but Fox News should also be looked at with a jaundiced eye. It seems to be more concerned with its status as the #1 News Network than presenting the real issues in a fair and balanced manner.

    Will we ever be able to trust media again?


  38. Please says:

    Regarding the Glen Simpson/Fusion GPS arranging Chris Steele meetings with the media to leak the fake Russia/Trump…Is it possible that the orders for that action came from DNC/hrc because the FBI wasn’t acting fast enough or publicly enough for hrc and to cover/deflect for the MYE results and chatter?

    hrc (never capitalize the criminal) must have also been a “…wants to know everything…” kind of corrupt leader and may have been involved with decisions/orders like this in the process.


  39. IGiveUp says:

    The mainstream media and the various state security services naturally operate in the service of the Establishment–in this case, the liberal-progressive establishment which took power in the 60’s.
    All of this huffing and puffing and pearl clutching obscures that reality. How about we take the Establishment back and use ALL of the institutions of the culture to our purposes, as has always been the case. Too Machiavellian? Wake up.

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    • J.Thomas says:

      That’s what needs to happen.

      Phase 1: Sever the International Money Ties.
      – its time to make examples of offenders: George Soros, The Clintons, Google, Carlos Slim, Facebook, etc.
      – win the trade wars

      Phase 2: Eliminate the Privileges that Buoy Establishment Media.
      – deregulate the airwaves or replace longstanding broadcast licenses with content as conservative as NBC is left wing. Issue 3 conservative licenses to every one liberal license. Flip media in the extreme to balance out years of inequality…use their own logic against them.
      – fine movie companies with FEC violations. Use their own rules against them. Pay them back with what they did to Dinesh D’Souza. Get punitive.

      Phase 3: Change law enforcement focus to target violent leftist groups


  40. Billh34 says:

    Thank you for an excellent article, which I will be sharing. My hope is that new media can somehow beat MSM in this death race. If anyone ever wondered why some folks fought so hard to control the internet, this shows why. Kudos to all who fight the good fight.


  41. LandonK says:

    Excellent article. Interesting how so much of our fate depends so much on Barr and Durham. Their place in history is being written right now.


  42. Ludo says:

    Sundance!! You’re on a roll, man…

    Discovering CTH was the best thing to happen to me – starved for intellectually honest news & analysis – this year.

    Merry Christmas, God Bless, and Happy New Year to you all. ❤

    Regards, former liberal.

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  43. arsumbris says:

    The Marxist Media’s insistence on discredited sources is pure CYA (cover-your-ass) at this point. Media corporations are going to start pruning the individuals who did work based on lies, as their own sort of CYA, as we approach charges and trials from Durham’s work.

    The people whose sources get named as defendants will be the first careers to end. Expect to see tons of “I finally saw the light” routines from these liars at that point, since it will become completely impossible to keep pretending the Steele Dossier was credible just because the likes of Comey were telling reporters it was. All of the media completely rejected it at first, then tried to pass the buck off the Intel Community’s insistence on the lie.

    The deeper cognitive dissonance was the belief that Trump was just a fluke, that his support would collapse if they pulled out all the stops attacking him for a few years. That was a Kamikaze pact they made with their own lies.

    You’re going to see a lot of “come to Jesus” moments from these liars, both in the Marxist media and from the RINO side. Never forget who the liars were. They’ll try to salvage their credibility one day with false confessions.


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