The U.S. Senate Has a Survival Interest in Supporting Impeachment Effort…

….In 2016 a branch of the United States government (Legislative) was attempting a soft-coup against the leader of another branch of government (Executive); by using the Senate Intelligence Committee and designated corrupt agents within the executive branch cabinet… In 2019 the effort shifted to the House Intelligence Committee…

During the 2016 effort to weaponize the institutions of government against the outside candidacy of Donald Trump, the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (SSCI) was headed by Richard Burr and Dianne Feinstein. After the 2016 election Senator Feinstein abdicated her vice-chair position to Senator Mark Warner in January 2017.
While the SSCI was engaged in their part of the 2016 effort Vice-Chair Feinstein’s lead staffer was a man named Daniel Jones.
Dan Jones was the contact point between the SSCI and Fusion-GPS.
After the election, and after Feinstein abdicated, Dan Jones left the committee to continue paying Fusion-GPS (Glenn Simpson) for ongoing efforts toward the impeachment insurance policy angle.
Senator Feinstein left because she didn’t want to deal with the consequences of a President Trump, IF he discovered the SSCI involvement. Dan Jones left because with a Trump presidency the SSCI, now co-chaired by Senator Mark Warner, needed arms-length plausible deniability amid their 2017 operations to continue the removal effort (soft coup).
The blueprint for this plausible deniability process, and ongoing soft-coup effort, first surfaces with Dan Jones appearing in the 2017 text messages between Senator Warner and the liaison for Christopher Steele, lawyer and lobbyist Adam Waldman:

In those March 2017 text message you can see Senator Warner attempting to set up covert “no paper trail” communication with dossier author Christopher Steele. Adam Waldman represented Chris Steele and Steele’s employer, Oleg Deripaska.
Less than a month later you can see within the text messages that Christopher Steele is in direct contact with Dan Jones. “[Chris] said Dan Jones is coming to see you” etc.

(Text Messages Between Feinstein’s replacement, Mark Warner, and Chris Steele’s lawyer/lobbyist, Adam Waldman, noting the importance of Dan Jones)

Dan Jones talking to Christopher Steele in 2017 is critical to understanding what was going on after Trump won the election.
Jones raised $50 million from those who were behind the 2016 stop Trump effort, and the purpose was now the 2017 impeachment effort [SEE LINK]. Jones having left the SSCI (now outside govt.) then paid Christopher Steele and Fusion GPS to keep up their efforts. As you can see from the texts, Jones was now talking in person (“coming to see you”) to SSCI Vice-Chair Mark Warner in April 2017.
[Side-Bar: The role of Fusion-GPS in 2017 shifted, and was now weighted toward feeding a specific media narrative that would aid impeachment (through the FBI, Weissmann and Mueller obstruction angle). Fusion-GPS was now the conduit for arms-length media leaks from the usurping small group still inside the DOJ and FBI. Dan Jones was paying Fusion on behalf of those with larger interests. Fusion was feeding the media.]
So you can clearly see the Republican-led Senate Select Committee on Intelligence was heavily involved in the impeachment effort after the election.
Secondary documentation of the connection between the DOJ, FBI, Fusion, and Dan Jones shows up in the FBI investigative 302 notes of Bruce Ohr, released by Judicial Watch. [Pay attention to the May 8th, 2017, interview – pg 18, 19 of pdf]

The highlighted bottom portion of page 18 (May 8, 2017, interview) shows a heavily redacted text, but holds enough material to overlay with other research.
This is where Bruce Ohr is talking about Dan Jones efforts as they were currently aligned with Fusion GPS: “and had been on the staff of the [Senate Intelligence Committee]”…. “At the time of the interview [Jones] was working with the [Vice Chairman of the Committee Mark Warner]”… etc.
This part is heavily redacted because the corrupt agents within the current DOJ and FBI once again don’t want people to piece together what was happening.  There is an obvious ongoing element within the DOJ/FBI that is working in concert with politicians to protect both their interests.  We see this quid-pro-quo in the Wolfe outcome.
These are not sources and methods being redacted. This is not national security being redacted. This is the trail of the connective tissue in/around the small group plotting what is being hidden by current DOJ/FBI and Intelligence Community officials.
At the top of page 19, the investigative notes of Ohr’s discussion continues.

Bruce Ohr is telling the FBI investigator, likely Agent Joe Pientka, about Glenn Simpson and Dan Jones visiting Christopher Steele sometime after May 8, 2017, and they were in the process of “lawyering up”.
Now before going deeper in the SSCI weeds, let me pause and explain the specifics behind why the FBI was interviewing Bruce Ohr about Chris Steele; by overlaying what was going on in/around early 2017.
Chris Steele wasn’t alone in creating the “dossier”. Heck, the purpose of Fusion-GPS contracting Steele; and the purpose of the FBI engaging with Steele; was the laundry value of having a known intelligence officer validate political opposition research which the FBI could use against Donald Trump. The reality is: most of the raw material and research inside the dossier was from Glenn Simpson and Nellie Ohr at Fusion GPS.
The ‘small group’ inside the DOJ and FBI always knew the provenance of the material; the plan and intent was to utilize Fusion-GPS for their political purposes.
Everyone carrying out this operation, all of the corrupt entities within it, knew the material from Chris Steele was essentially political opposition research. Many of those same people later weaponized the research into the FISA application to give it higher import and value.
That set’s up early 2017 – where the FBI was evaluating the extent to which Chris Steele was willing to remain on public record to support a false framework about the dossier itself. This is the same time-frame where Fusion is being paid by Dan Jones to facilitate the calls for a special counsel. Fusion drives that narrative with structured leaks to media.
Steele’s support was a key issue because the corrupt DOJ and FBI officials were about to hand-off the dossier to Special Counsel Robert Mueller (figurehead only) as the basis for the ‘small group’ and him to launch the special counsel aspect of an ongoing operation.
If Chris Steele suddenly walked away from the dossier, and/or admitted publicly the dossier was political opposition research primarily from Glenn Simpson and Nellie Ohr, the FBI would have a shit-storm on its hands…. and they needed to evaluate the position of Steele. Steele could be a risk if he was not supporting the team playbook. That’s the driving purpose behind all of this “re-engagement” with Steele through Bruce Ohr.
The small group in the DOJ and FBI planned to continue, pass-off and modify the Trump investigation by shifting it to a special counsel. The centerpiece of that investigation would be using the dossier as justification for a need to investigate Trump as a Russian risk. The DOJ/FBI small group needed Glenn Simpson and Chris Steele to stand by the false narrative all of the players had assembled over the prior year.
The wildcard to retain the false story was Chris Steele… Steele was an outside participant, albeit aligned with the ideology and the purpose. Evaluating Steele’s willful participation in keeping the narrative as assembled was the reason for their urgent talks; however, the “small group” couldn’t run the risk of direct talks in the same way that Mark Warner couldn’t risk of a paper trail.
Adam Waldman and Dan Jones were facilitating a plausibly deniable information pipeline from Chris Steele to Senator Mark Warner. Bruce Ohr was facilitating a plausibly deniable information pipeline from Chris Steele to the FBI/DOJ small group. The purposes were the same, everyone needed assurances Steele wasn’t going to back-out.
That corrupt planning activity is what the current DOJ and intelligence officials are hiding behind the Bruce Ohr 302 redactions:
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When you understand what the group was doing in early 2017, you understand why the FBI had to use DOJ official Bruce Ohr as a go-between to contact with Chris Steele.
Now we move on to overlay several data-points that happened throughout 2018 that are connected to a much more troubling part of the overall issues. In 2018 the DOJ and FBI covered-up the corruption evident during the 2017 pre-Mueller effort.
This 2017 and 2018 time period covers Robert Mueller as Special Counsel, Jeff Sessions as AG, Rod Rosenstein as Deputy, Chris Wray as FBI Director, David Bowditch as Deputy and Dana Boente as FBI legal counsel. I’ll lay out the evidence, you can then determine who was powerful enough to have made these decisions.

As a result of a FOIA release in Mid December 2018, Judicial Watch revealed how the State Department was feeding “classified information” to multiple U.S. Senators on the Senate Intelligence Committee by the Obama administration immediately prior to President Donald Trump’s inauguration:

The documents reveal that among those receiving the classified documents were Sen. Mark Warner (D-VA), Sen. Ben Cardin (D-MD), and Sen. Robert Corker (R-TN).
Judicial Watch obtained the documents through a June 2018 Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit filed against the State Department after it failed to respond to a February 2018 request seeking records of the Obama State Department’s last-minute efforts to share classified information about Russia election interference issues with Democratic Senator Ben Cardin (Judicial Watch v. U.S. Department of State (No. 1:18-cv-01381)).
The documents reveal the Obama State Department urgently gathering classified Russia investigation information and disseminating it to members of Congress within hours of Donald Trump taking office. (read more)

The impeachment program was a plan, an insurance policy of sorts; a coordinated effort between corrupt politicians in the Senate and hold-over allies in the executive; however, because she didn’t want to participate in this – Senator Dianne Feinstein abdicated her vice-chair position to Senator Mark Warner. [Background Here]
This is the pre-cursor to utilizing Robert Mueller. A plan that was developed soon after the 2016 election. The appointment of a special counsel was always the way they were going to hand-off and continue the investigation into Trump; but they needed a reason for it.
The continued exploitation of the Steele Dossier was critical; thus they needed Chris Steele to be solid. And the continued manipulation of the media was also critical; thus they needed Fusion-GPS to continue. [Dan Jones paid both]
While Mark Warner was communicating with Adam Waldman and Dan Jones as a conduit to Chris Steele, the FBI/DOJ team was communicating through Bruce Ohr to Chris Steele (and by extension to Nellie Ohr and Fusion GPS).
Part of Warner’s role was to weaponize the Legislative branch to advance the ‘Muh Russia conspiracy’, a fundamental necessity if a special counsel was going to have justification.
The SSCI, and the security protocols within it, were structurally part of the plan; hence the rapid information from Obama’s State Dept. to the SSCI and Senate participants in the last moments prior to departing.
♦ On March 17th, 2017, the Senate Intelligence Committee took custody of the FISA application used against Carter Page. We know the FISA court delivered the read and return Top-Secret Classified application due to the clerk stamp of March 17, 2017.

(Page FISA Application, Link)

The FISA application (original and first renewal) was delivered to Senate Security Director James Wolfe. Senator Mark Warner entered the basement SCIF shortly after 4:00pm on March 17, 2017, the day it was delivered (texts between Warner and Waldman):
Now, when SSCI Security Officer James Wolfe was indicted (unsealed June ’18), we could see the importance of the March 17th date again:

(Wolfe Indictment Link)

We can tell from the description within the indictment FBI investigators are describing the FISA application. Additionally Wolfe exchanged 82 text messages with his reporter/girlfriend Ali Watkins. The FISA application is 83 pages with one blank page.
The logical conclusion was that Wolfe texted Ali Watkins 82 pictures of the application.
FBI Investigators applied for, and received a search warrant for the phone records of journalist Ali Watkins. Ms. Watkins was notified in February 2018, three months after Wolfe was questioned by FBI investigators in December 2017.
However, despite the overwhelming (public) circumstantial evidence that Wolfe leaked the FISA application, he was never charged with leaking classified information. Wolfe was only charged with lying three times to federal authorities, and he pled down to one count of lying to the FBI.
CTH made the case in mid 2018 that someone at the DOJ had influenced a decision not to charge Wolfe with the leaking of the FISA application; despite the FBI and DOJ having direct evidence of Wolfe leaking classified information.
The logical reason for the DOJ not to charge Wolfe with the FISA leak was because that charge could ensnare a Senator on the powerful committee, likely Mark Warner.
Remember, the SSCI has intelligence oversight of the DOJ, DOJ-NSD, FBI and all associated counterintelligence operations. Additionally, when the FBI was investigating Wolfe for leaking classified documents, according to their court filings they had to inform the committee of the risk Wolfe represented. Who did they have to inform?.. Chairman Burr and Vice-Chair Warner.
D’oh. Think about it. A gang-of-eight member (Warner), who happened -as a consequence of the jaw dropping implications- to be one of only two SSCI members who was warned by the FBI that Wolfe was compromised…. and he’s the co-conspirator. The ramifications cannot be overstated. Such a criminal charge would be a hot mess.
Thus, the perfect alignment of interests for a dropped charge and DC cover-up.
Then, in an act of serendipity, James Wolfe himself bolstered that suspicion when he threatened to subpoena members of the SSCI as part of his defense. [See Here]

[…] Attorneys for James A. Wolfe sent letters to all 15 senators on the committee, notifying them that their testimony may be sought as part of Mr. Wolfe’s defense, according to two people familiar with the matter.
[…] Mr. Wolfe’s defense lawyers are considering calling the senators as part of the proceedings for a variety of reasons, including as potential character witnesses and to rebut some of the allegations made by the government in the criminal complaint, these people say. (link)

Immediately after threatening to subpoena the SSCI (July 27, 2018), the DOJ cut a deal with Wolfe and dropped the charges down to a single charge of lying to investigators. However, someone doing the investigative legwork wasn’t happy with that decision.
Our overwhelming CTH circumstantial evidence that Wolfe leaked the FISA application went from a strong suspicion, to damn certain (after the plea deal) when the DOJ included a sentencing motion in mid-December 2018.
On December 15th, 2018 the DOJ filed a response to the Wolfe defense team’s own sentencing memo (full pdf), and within the DOJ response they included an exhibit (#13) written by the FBI [redacted] special agent in charge, which specifically says: “because of the known disclosure of classified information, the FISA application”… Thereby admitting, albeit post-plea agreement, that Wolfe did indeed leak the damn FISA:

(link to document)

Right there, in that FBI Special Agent description is the bombshell admission that James Wolfe leaked the Carter Page FISA application to his concubine Ali Watkins at Buzzfeed.
We know the special agent who wrote exhibit #13 in the December filing was Special Agent Brian Dugan, Asst. Special Agent in Charge, Washington Field Office. The same investigator who originally signed the affidavit in the original indictment.
So with hindsight there was absolutely no doubt that James Wolfe leaked the 83-page Carter Page FISA application on March 17, 2017. Period. It’s all documented with circumstantial and direct evidence; including the admissions from the FBI agent in charge.
So, why was James Wolfe allowed to plea to a single count of lying to investigators?
Back to where this started….

A branch of the United States government (Legislative) was attempting a coup against the leader of another branch of government (Executive); by using planted and designated corrupt agents within the cabinet…

The problem for Attorney General Bill Barr is not investigating what we don’t know, but rather navigating through what ‘We The People’ are already aware of….

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268 Responses to The U.S. Senate Has a Survival Interest in Supporting Impeachment Effort…

  1. need24give says:

    They’re all so corrupt and WE have the goods on them.

    • Content is Queen, Distribution is King

      • need24give says:

        Then start distributing what WE know to our brothers and sisters who don’t. But do so in the most loving and compassionately way possible.
        It’s a tough pill to swallow.

      • need24give says:

        The hardest thing for someone to admit, is being lied to by trusted people.
        Tread lightly.

      • franuche says:

        Content is Prince, Distribution is Queen, Executioner is King… if he can find his own ass with both hands.

        • SSCI is where the red-blue mirage goes to die. If you’re still seeing two robust and discrete parties engaging on that committee, then I’ll have the cocktail you’re having.
          I see content and a scrupulous attention to soundly reasoned analysis getting mugged by a Rush to Judgement/breakneck tempo set by McConnell in the Senate. We’re in the post-plausible narrative phase of Managed Democracy. Half the nation has zero interest in facts. There’s another sizable sliver of nonaligned Americans who are just tired of all the stress and want to get back to watching TV with all their friends in one room again.
          SDNY may also have pitched in something from the Gestapo raid of M Cohen’s office that, regardless of veracity, might be dumped on an 11th hour fire. The Rinos will insist on mountains of cover (and post-Senate perqs) as a pre-req to committing political hari-kari. Expect in an impeachment scenario for some new shoes to fall. But they’ll fall fast to avoid protracted counter-argument. McConnell already has a procedural playbook which’ll favor the Quigley team.
          There’s no reason Barr/Durham can’t deliver a damning investigation post-impeachment. Watch for a sense of renewed urgency on Barr’s part to see if he’s genuinely trying to beat the impeachment clock. Rudy and POTUS may have decided Barr is slow-rolling, hence Giuliani’s relentless pushing of the Ukraine angle which seems to be irritating Barr. Who’s got time to placate Bagpipe Bill? His recent overseas trips may be indicative of true velocity or only MAGA window-dressing/placating. His findings will be well-nigh useless to Trump if they’re delivered with knitted brow and high seriousness in a Pence administration.
          So Horowitz overlooked the tarmac shuffle? They’re keeping Hillary clean and preparing for reentry.
          Romney’s body rejects courage like some bodies reject organ implants. He would never be the forward-attack guy unless he’s been assured he’ll be heralded as a lone visionary in the future. Imagine Romney running as a moral beacon ‘when others wavered for political expediency’ (blech).
          I think they’re gonna try to tamp down the post-impeachment outrage with their fearsome managed consent capabilities. There are rumors of even darker measures ahead should the soma not work on the dissident community. The stakes are simply too high NOT to attempt it and they know 2020 does not favor them at the ballot box. Ironically, it’s the apparent seriousness of the Durham inquiry that’s pushed them to this do-or-die scenario. Otherwise they might settle for just trying to steal the election as always.
          The enduring mystery is how they plan to internally broker the Pelosi vs. Hillary paths to power (impeachment vs. election). Are these two camps at odds or reconciled to a singular way forward? With impeachment, Pelosi has a chance to preempt Clinton. The question becomes what if anything does Nancy have on Pence?
          Trump is Gd’s man. The Red Sea may still yet part. I pray for Trump every day. The future is too bleak without him.

          • Austin Holdout says:

            Graham would love to swoop in and steal the MAGA vote after a few powerful public “I hope you never get it” speeches while conniving behind the scenes to sabotage Trump during the senate trial. I’d like to know where he was when Schiff was confronted in a So. Carolina airport and blurted out “I’m here for a wedding” after no one asked him why he was there. And he had an Aide with him? Who needs an Aide to go to a wedding with him? I wouldn’t put it past Graham to have been there plotting the President’s demise with Schiff.

            • Schiff and Graham were secretly married over the weekend. The aide was in charge of the garter. Yes exactly, Graham wants to be the rightful benefactor of the MAGA vote post-Trump. He will not weep if the post-Trump arrives sooner rather than later.

          • B Woodward says:

            Full Spectrum Domino said, “The stakes are simply too high NOT to attempt it and they know 2020 does not favor them at the ballot box. Ironically, it’s the apparent seriousness of the Durham inquiry that’s pushed them to this do-or-die scenario. Otherwise they might settle for just trying to steal the election as always. ”
            The Democrats are going to create a (second) full-blown Constitutional crisis by stealing the 2020 election that they can’t win honestly. What are AG Barr and the FEC doing now to stop past and future election fraud? They need to prosecute these crimes or else the Democrats will continue to believe that they have a license to steal. We already saw a number of House seats stolen in the 2018 election after the polls were closed (in Kalifornia and other states). And here is an article stating that the Electoral College Vote could be stolen.

    • FPCHmom says:

      But they have the power to remove him from office.
      I still think Romney ran for the senate for this purpose only.

      • Tl Howard says:

        I am sure Bain Capital and Mitten’s globalist buddies pressed him to do this.

      • Deb D says:

        agree 100% on Romney opinion, I live in Utah and the guy is a ghost here. He must have been promised something big, to be grandfathered in by Hatch. My guess is he wants to go bigger then the Senate- maybe S.O.S? Mormon powers that be, would love that… just saying

        • The Third Man says:

          ? Romney is channeling Joseph Smith, arguably the all time world champion charlatan. Smith, the founder of the Morman “religion” is right up there with Mohammed and Obama. (That’s ” I found the secret tablets in the woods.” Smith)

    • bertdilbert says:

      Simply put, Trump threatens their way of life. Both republican and democrat. This Is going to be the final battle. I fully expect any senator not up for reelection this cycle to be pressured for yes on impeachment.

      • Austin Holdout says:

        Not to mention, every Republican Senator who can sabotage the President into removal is a potential 2020 Presidential contender. They can either run as nevertrumpers (Rubio or Mittens types) or fake their disgust with the removal and try to slide into the President’s slipstream (Graham or Cruz types). Graham or Cruz would, of course, be just as “solemn, sad for our country and prayerful” as Nancy Pelosi is about being “forced” into an impeachment inquiry. They’d probably even promise the President’s supporters “to get to the bottom of” who set up the President.
        Other than a few Freedom Caucus guys, WE are the President’s only supporters. We must let our Senators and Representatives know we are onto them and WILL vote for their democratic opponents before we will vote for ANY Republican who votes to impeach. We must give what we can afford to both demonstrate that the President has our support and to give his campaign staff flexibility to run constant ads debunking this Ukraine hoax. We must overcome any squeamishness about public confrontation with screaming Antifa idiots and show up to local or national rallies to show our support. And pray, pray, pray for our President and our Republic.

    • Raptors2020 says:

      Planted corrupt agents within the Cabinet? Has Sundance made this allegation before?
      McCabe and Rosenstein believed they had two pro-25th Amendment votes inside the Cabinet. Their discussion over Rosenstein wearing a wire when with our President was presumably intended to gather evidence to use to bring more Cabinet members over to the dark side.
      Rush speculated today that one purpose for the constant pressure on Trump is to make him physically ill.
      The plotters have been following the Watergate playbook; the rumors about Nixon at that time were that he was breaking under the pressure (drinking/issuing crazy orders/wandering the halls at night).
      I still believe Trump’s resignation was and remains their primary objective. No ugly trials, no controversial votes. Neat and clean. Washington forgets him, and just goes on like before. Message delivered to any other potential Trumps.

  2. Can you spell
    “Congressional Coup”

  3. It’s past soft coup. It’s treason. And there’s a remedy for that.

  4. AG Barr: Can you follow the Sundance breadcrumbs?
    We know you can do it.
    But will you?

    • Zorro says:

      I agree the info is all documented here and needs to be seen by the right people. IMO, Sidney Powell has taken into account info from CTH for use in the Flynn case.

    • SpotTheSpook says:

      I have ZERO doubt that people in his circle read here regularly.

    • jmarshs says:

      Unfortunately, I’ve become convinced that Barr has dirty laundry that he does not want aired before the Public.
      Anyone who spends a significant amount of time in DC becomes corrupted. The reason that the Republican members of the Gang of Eight don’t lower the boom on the corrupt Democrats is because they know that they too are susceptible to charges of corruption.
      The reason that so many member of Congress have “retired” to “spend more time with their families” is because they know the legal jeopardy that they face if this all blows up.
      DC protects it’s own in a Mutually Assured Destruction pact.
      The great irony of the last 3 years is that the one honest man in DC is Trump.

      • law4lifeblog says:

        Jmarshs, please share the evidence of the “dirty laundry” Barr is hiding. What’s your basis for accusing him of being corrupt? Not everyone in the DC arena is corrupted.

        • icanhasbailout says:

          Virtually everyone in DC is corrupt. I saw it with mine own eyes.
          Between the Bushes, the Clintons, and the Obamas, the entire thing has turned into a massive pay-for-play operation. Everybody is there to get a share of the looting of the nation.

          • littleanniefannie says:

            How did the Obamas afford the new summer vacation house on the Cape if he didn’t take huge amounts. It’s not like he was independently wealthy before getting into politics. She managed to have the bigger salary while he was out community organizing but we aren’t talking millions. Yes he won a Nobel for being elected while black. Still not enough. His salary for the 8 years never exceeded a half million a year (at least not legally). We don’t know the amount of the Iranian kickback, nor the Soros “contribution” to his retirement fund, nor the Netflix deal that they made (with zero qualifications), nor his or her books.
            Wow! Just wow!!

      • icanhasbailout says:

        There is another – Rand Paul.

      • Amy2 says:

        Why would Barr come BACK into public service if he was compromised?

        • FPCHmom says:

          I agree. He didn’t need to. It would have been much easier for him to remain out of the spotlight.

      • George 1 says:

        jmarshs, it is also true that Barr was, after all, approved by the swamp.

    • joeknuckles says:

      Breadcrumbs? This is more like a precision GPS device.
      This can’t possibly be entirely by deduction. SD must have some damn good sources and, if he has sources this good, the white hats must have them, too. I find this very encouraging.

  5. FPCHmom says:

    They will only survive if their constituents allow them to live.
    If republican senators turn against the president, they will be lucky to be able to walk out in public without round-the-clock security.

    • I don’t believe this will even make it to the senate, the whole thing is falling apart. John Solomon reports tonight on Lou Dobbs that the “whistleblower” signed a false attestation on the form that he/she had firsthand knowledge. Perjury. Game over.

      • bertdilbert says:

        That is meaningless if he states “I was told” or “I heard” or “I read”. Apparently there was no claim of first hand knowledge other than as expressed above..

        • Bertdilbert, but what Solomon is claiming is that the WB checked the box on the form saying he/she DID have firsthand knowledge. (Sorry if that wasn’t clear)

          • Should also mention that there are so many discrepancies between WB form and transcript of call, NO way WB could have been firsthand.

            • bertdilbert says:

              But it there is no claim in the complaint it is irrelevant if he singed the complaint that he had first hand knowledge. If he said “I heard” then it is excluded from first hand knowledge regardless of what he signed on the bottom. If the complainant states this throughout, then there is no crime to prosecute. You have a big bag of nothing and nobody goes to jail.

              • Austin Holdour says:

                Hard to believe the cabal would go to the trouble of changing the rules and forms to allow hearsay just to have the WB check the wrong box.

              • littleanniefannie says:

                “I heard” is not admissable in a court of law, then again, law and this impeachment have very little in common!
                The Democrats screamed and screamed about Trump shutting Mueller down. Guess what they are doing? Trying to shut down Barr and Durham. Horowitz too. The Republicans didn’t shut down Mueller, nor did President Trump. The Democrats in Congress know too much about what the Obama IC did to the President from the morning after the election and, through SES plants, are still doing.
                Time to blow up the IC and go to the military.

    • FrankieZee says:

      I would not want to be in a RINO’s place if he or she votes against Trump. There life will never be the same as well as their families.

      • The Third Man says:

        FrankieZee is correct. It’s at that point now.
        Was it Yosemite Sam…”I can’t stands no more”?
        Joking aside, 10s of millions of level headed Americans have had it up to here (gesturing). 1972 redux.

  6. Bogeyfree says:

    The Shake Down Syndicate is wide and deep.
    It is impossible to get off the cheese once you have partaken
    Even after retirement!

    • crazydogdog says:

      After all Bruce Ohr was one of the heads of the DOJ’S Organized Crime division! The irony isn’t lost by me at all!

  7. redhotrugmama says:

    As always another excellent write up SD! This is truly some complicated stuff so many someone’s did so many somethings it becomes so hard to track and understand. I read all of your postings and I read other sites as well. I get about 70% of this stuff. How is the average American to understand all of these layers of complexity??
    Sadly I don’t have much faith in AG Barr and I am losing faith in the Senate Republicans. It is a very sad state of affairs when we have United States President that has so little staff he can trust and a majority of his party working against him behind the scenes. I envision Mittens along with a few others getting other RepubliCONS to vote against PDT when this impeachment goes to trial in the senate. I feel as though our country is on the brink!
    We need more than the hastily organized Women for Trump march planned for 10/17. We need millions in orange vest to march and surround all DOJ’s in all major cities or something along those lines. If I was a younger person and not disabled I surely would love to coordinate something.
    I fear the RepliCONS are just that.

    • jus wundrin says:

      Flake is out there calling for impeachment, so I think another good name for the (R) party is the ‘flakes party’, which sure does fit.

    • dscottv says:

      It is complex and convoluted. I too have read and re-read and rely on others to connect dots. Makes me very envious of those who easily comprehend and absorb it all! What is like to know is who specifically hatched this whole thing and how did they plan it? Was Comey the “master planner?”

  8. jus wundrin says:

    Except for perhaps at the state level, I will never vote for another (R) again. Let the dems win, and then try and rebuild from the ashes……with term limits.

    • A Moderate Man says:

      The corruptness of politicians will never be eliminated without term limits… so I am with you jus wundrin’… three 6-year terms for senators, four 4-year terms for congresspeople and one 8-year term for President.

    • bertdilbert says:

      Term limits fixes nothing. All it would do is rearrange the way they take the money. If you want to tix the problem you have to fix the money.

      • A Moderate Man says:

        I disagree bert… term limits will work… here is what I would favor… three 6-year terms for senators, four 4-year terms for congresspeople and one 8-year term for president. The president would never have to raise money. Also, then move the entire legislative branch towards algorithmic policy making and dynamic, real-time people voting by 2032. Reduce the number of elected officials and have them work from their home districts exclusively.

        • MNcarrypermitholder says:

          I hate to say it, but experienced politicians are the only checks we have against lifelong deep-state operatives. Term limits for elected officials cannot come before term limits for senior management in the beast. Several states have had bad experiences in exactly this way – the deep state knows that they only need to BS for a few years and then whoever is onto them will be gone.
          Start with unelected executive employees at the decision-making management level. Three two-year terms at that level. If you get promoted to the head of some agency, add one more term. At least 10 years away from government (including elected offices, W-2 employment, and 1099 contracts) and government contractors when term-limited out, and the second ride limited to two two-year terms. President can fire at will for any reason without limit.
          (This is actually my second choice – I’d much prefer that we fire about 90% of non-military government workers, store nuclear waste in the basement of the now-empty office buildings, then implode the buildings, entombing the waste and also making it impossible for the next President to just re-hire.)
          And if Congress is to be seated in their own districts instead of going to DC, return to the 1 rep per 30,000 people scheme of our founding. That would take about 10,000 reps, but who cares? They don’t need to meet in person. That is too many people to buy, so most forms of corruption would be eliminated. Also, ban them from buying real estate outside of their district while in office and for 10 years after (waiver available only under special circumstances.)
          And repeal the 17th Amendment.

          • MNcarry, I don’t know whether term limits help or hurt, but a few executions for treason would do more for ensuring this cabal crap doesn’t happen again than anything. Public executions, as a lesson for the youths.

          • littleanniefannie says:

            Term limits for elected officials cannot come before term limits for senior management in the beast.
            This is where so much of the corruption lies. Couple this with the ease with which they can “transfer” between agencies and you have mega corruption. All the more reason to move the agencies away from DC and away from each other. No 2 agencies in any one state or maybe in contiguous states. Will this eliminate corruption? No. But it will at least make it a little tougher and a little more noticeable. Moving across states is a little more inconvenient than moving across the street!

      • bofh says:

        Term limits also would increase the incidence of “lame ducks”, and we’ve seen how destructive they can be. Trying to get re-elected is one of the few things that makes them responsive (at least occasionally) to their “constituents”.

        • A Moderate Man says:

          … maybe but getting re-elected is also what makes politicians suck-up to those who offer graft and more importantly, the time commitment to work on reelection supersedes any effort for meaningful legislative action.

        • littleanniefannie says:

          Mandate financial disclosure annually, including for management positions in government. Data must be publicly accessible. Any one found guilty of hiding “income” would automatically be sentenced to 25 year prison term and fine equal to or exceeding hidden amount.

      • jus wundrin says:

        Political office was never meant to be a career, and career politicians become corrupt politicians.

    • Garavaglia says:

      Why would they implement term limits?

      • Garavaglia says:

        They won’t even respect our vote..they are pis#ing on us and laughing while they are doing it. Does anyone really believe these same people would endorse term limits. Come on, that’s fantasyland.

    • trialbytruth says:

      Well then I guess impeachment guaranteed.
      I have another plan I will do what the man I hired to be President recommends.

    • Tl Howard says:

      Oh, that’ll fix things all right–democrats. Wanna try that again?

    • underwhelmingposter says:

      Agree 100% with term limits now. This it seems is the only way to drain the swamp. Even swamp creatures cannot win every election.

    • jebg46 says:

      What ever we do, we can’t allow demo-socialist-communists to win the presidency or have congressional power. We must save our Republic.

    • steph_gray says:

      Anybody suggesting voting for DementoRats as a solution against corrupt Republicans is in RolCon territory.

  9. PCS says:

    So, they’ve run their mathematical models, brought in the best game theorists and behavioral psychologists and decided that dumping Trump as quickly as they can is their best play? That the repercussions are worth the risk?
    Maybe they’re right. After all most people don’t have a clue there is a war going on. I would not bank on their plan working and I reckon the blowback is going to be a very long and drawn out fugly.

    • Sentient says:

      Home Depot sells machetes.

      • joeknuckles says:

        And high capacity nail guns.

      • cthulhu says:

        So does Harbor Freight, at 1/6 the price…….but you should buy all 6, ’cause they’re only good for one or two uses each.

        • underwhelmingposter says:


        • Dad's son says:

          I have a couple of those Harbor Freighters, and you’re safer and better off grabbing the business end and using it like a club because the chance of the handle’s shattering on the target with bonus hit points is higher than that of cutting yourself on the “blade….” (Of course they work great with some “aftermarket” improvements) 😉

      • icanhasbailout says:

        Something about the irony of buying rope from Amazon tickles my fancy.

  10. Tl Howard says:

    Wish Burr would resign, but there’s a Dem governor of North Carolina.

    • Tl Howard says:

      So, doesn’t that give him some leverage over POTUS revealing his perfidy?

    • Ordinaryman says:

      I sent Senator Burr a letter two days ago asking him to Retire now and not wait until the end of his term. Our Democratic governor has to appoint a Republican which in this state another RINO like Burr and Tillis. Even the appointment of a Democrat would be better than Burr who is totally corrupt. I have sent him Sundance articles for the past two years.

      • Dekester says:

        I remember watching a show sometime last year when Burr was in the company of PDJT ( and others) PDJT gave him a look, and Burr was Shi**ing himself.
        I don’t remember the details, but the look of fear on Burrs smarmy face is something I will remember for a long time.
        God bless PDJT

      • rsg says:

        appointment of a Dem. would be better Right. There goes a vote for Trump’s judicial nominees.

      • littleanniefannie says:

        Cooper is such an idiot he would likely appoint himself—he’s that corrupt himself. The people of N.C. voted to institute Voter ID and he and some Democrat rogue judge ruled the vote of the people unconstitutional. And remember, Cooper has cozied up to Rev. Barber, the guy trying to be national NAACP leader. Burr is horrible but there could be worse choices. Durham and Barr need to kick it in gear.

  11. Merle Marks says:

    Sundance….you should receive the Nobel Prize for sleuthing…that blog post was nothing short of amazing…we continue to salute you for your patriotism and hard work…

  12. Revenant says:

    This mostly implicates Warner (though Burr is almost certainly involved too). And, by extrapolation, perhaps other members of the SSCI.
    That’s a different question though from the GOP Senate majority being able to politically justify the removal of Trump after a Senate trial.
    I don’t trust the “Decepticons” either — but if they take down Trump any of them up for re-election in 2020 will lose, easily. In such a scenario, its unlikely that the GOP itself would survive — there would be a full fledged voter revolt. That’s not survival. While some probably don’t care (e.g. Romney, Burr), others certainly do (e.g., McConnell, Graham).
    I don’t see a Senate conviction as being in the cards, unless something develops that turns the GOP voting base strongly against Trump. (And I don’t see that happening).

    • Tl Howard says:

      I suspect the Deep State was hoping they could insert Mittens as Secretary of State.

    • underwhelmingposter says:

      Perhaps a third party-the MAGA party. If the Repubs do not stand strong for PDJT, how about a Conservative Party. No small donations for the Repubs. Only the big bettors! All the rest to the new party.
      Has anyone here heard of grassroots conservative start-ups around the country. Like Independents. Just wondering.
      Like others here, the information is sincerely fantastic. But, and it is big for me, it seems that all the energy, focus, activism, and “successes” are by the Deep State. We waited forever for Horowitz. That has come and gone. Now our hopes are with Durham. And finally with Barr. That is it!
      It just appears that the DS already knows all that Durham and Barr are doing and are unafraid. The DS operatives have their strategy worked out to numb (in the public’s eyes) the damning information that could come out.
      How on Earth could HRC wield so much power that this plan would go on for three long years without stopping and with all DS participants unafraid?
      It would be helpful to me if some of the wiser souls here could shed some light.
      I get the truth of what I read hear here and at other sites, but I am left with knowledge (not wisdom unfortunately) and great fear over the outcome.

      • Dad's son says:

        I think that HRC’s power may stem from pervasive, decades-long blackmail of powerful people, beginning the day, soon after Slick Willie’s inauguration, when she sent a former Arkansas bar bouncer to the FBI to grab a bunch of file boxes and bring them back to the White House for safekeeping.
        Just my $0.02

    • littleanniefannie says:

      This mostly implicates Warner (though Burr is almost certainly involved too).
      You mean the Siamese twins attached at the voluminous cranial void?

    • steph_gray says:

      Revenant, this is exactly what I would have said, if in my duly-diligent read through of all comments, you hadn’t already nailed it, and well.
      Yes there are plenty complicit in the R Senate in wanting PDJT gone and working towards that end – probably most. But my guess is only some of them – clearly Burr and Warner, and my guess again, a number of others on whom we don’t yet have the goods – have moved their personal goalposts into indictable and convictable territory.
      This will become a scramble NOT to let impeachment go through once the worst of them have been picked off by Barr and Durham. Again, my guess.

  13. dustahl says:

    On the other side the Senate has a motive to scuttle the impeachment , to dodge a trial and having more come out

    • Magabear says:

      Very good point.

        • jmarshs says:

          Yes. So many members of Congress are corrupt – on both sides. Rubio has been looking, for the last several years, like he’s expecting the “other shoe to drop”. Graham is up to his neck in Syria and Iran. Why did “rooster head” Gowdy retire? Ryan?
          I don’t trust the Republican members of the Senate to not impeach Trump – if a motion is brought to the floor.

          • icanhasbailout says:

            Down here in South Carolina we’re mad as holy hell and have lit a roaring bonfire under Graham.
            It’s working, too. He’s been on the news shows unambiguously on the right page all weekend, and you can tell from his eyes he’s getting no sleep.
            Getting his fundraising emails, I reply telling him that if the CIA is calling the shots then representative government is a farce and he’s just play-acting as Senator.
            But as a person of good faith, if he comes through, I will come through with that campaign donation I promised as a reward for proper representation.

        • Mr. T. says:

          Isolation415, McCain is dead, thank goodness. That’s coming from someone who lives here in Arizona. I actually voted for the SOB, but not his last reelection. I left that portion of the ballot blank. As a Veteran, I can tell you as a matter of fact, that the VA healthcare system, at least here in the Phoenix area, where the VA scandal started, right here in McCain’s backyard, is running very smoothly. The only time McCain ever talked about the Vets was when he was running for reelection. He did NOTHING to help the Veterans in this state and this country. Now, and for quite some time, and THANKS to President Trump, I have no problem getting appointments at the VA with just a very short waiting period until I can be seen by my primary care physician. Same goes for when I need a referral to go see a specialist outside of the VA system. Tricare/TriWest has been really good about getting me to where I need to be and in a timely manner.
          So, this fixation you have with McCain’s legacy still having clout in the Senate, well it doesn’t. He was a nasty SOB and I have no doubt that there are many in D.C. who are glad that he’s no longer around. He wore out his welcome a long time ago. As for here in Arizona, I assure you, he’s not the topic of conversation anywhere, except for maybe up in Cornville at the McCain estate. One thing we will NEVER forget about that SOB, he sold us out when it came to repealing Obamacare. He gave his word while he was running for reelection last time, that he would work hard to repeal it. We all know the outcome of that false promise. He cast the final vote to keep Obamacare. That was the final straw for many who tried to be supportive of him. He stabbed us in the back and did the same to the President. No love lost here and I and so many others are glad they stuck him in the ground at Annapolis, instead of out here. He doesn’t deserve to have a final resting spot in a state that he betrayed.

        • thebigharry says:

          Over the target Sundance, over the target.

    • Tl Howard says:

      Dem to Rep : “If Durham/Barr goes after us, we’ll point the finger at you as well.”
      Thus, we’re back to wondering if Barr will take down some people at FBI and DOJ, maybe even State, while not touching elected officials. They’d all out each other. The chaos might just be worth it.

      • littleanniefannie says:

        Will they be willing to sacrifice those no longer amongst their ranks? Brennan, Comey, Clapper, Hillary, Biden? I don’t think they would ever agree to Obama, even if it meant saving their sorry a$$e$. The sacrificial lambs may be farther down the food chain.

    • underwhelmingposter says:

      It is sad to say the reason to not have the impeachment is dirt on themselves is not revealed. Nothing about virtue, conscience, service to the country, right a wrong, show true fairness. Only about self-preservation.
      Perhaps PDJT should one-up them and demand an impeachment trial in the Senate. That would require the House to vote, which I do not think they want to do. But just for grins, is there a way to push it and Demand the Senate trial, and demand the release of ALL documents on everyone, and be able to mount a defense unlike any seem in years. Perhaps Sydney Powell could be on his team.

    • mark says:

      Not according to the turtle.

  14. Julian says:

    The Republican Party has a survival imperative by rejecting conviction and removal from Office.
    Why would anyone vote for the Republicans in 2020 if Trump was to be removed from office?
    Maybe if he was removed after the November Election in the 2020 lame duck period?

    • bofh says:

      If you’re looking at possible criminal actions of yours being revealed and prosecuted by an exonerated and re-elected Trump administration cleaning house, all of a sudden simply losing your seat in an election doesn’t look like such a bad fate. Besides threatening them (“leverage”), the CofC probably will offer sweet golden parachutes in return for career-suicidal cooperation in removing PT.

    • Raptors2020 says:

      Surely the opportunity to bargain with President Trump appeals to many Republican Senators? A definitive this you may have, this you may not, that applies for the rest of his Presidency? In exchange for his political life? Now there’s your Quid Pro Quo!

    • littleanniefannie says:

      Mm9ght work except for those up for re-election in 2022. And 24. And 26.

  15. Magabear says:

    Critters like Burr who is retiring might be onboard with impeachment, but any republican who would vote that way would be retired by their voters. Self-preservation is what guides most of them.

  16. California Joe says:

    What’s truly amazing is that IG Michael Atkinson sees a three year attempt by the FBI, DOJ and CIA to frame the President of the United States for a crime that not only he didn’t commit but a crime that never even happened using intelligence agency personnel and sources such as the illegal unmasking of hundreds of Americans, FBI and DOJ officials making false statements on sworn affidavits to the FISA Court, masquerading American sources overseas as Russian agents, allowing Samantha Power at the UN to unmask opponents of Palestinian autonomy and Atkinson does nothing about any of it. On the other hand he bends over backwards to facilitate a coup on President Trump who spoke to the Ukrainian President about cooperating in an OFFICIAL investigation by AG Barr. Didn’t Atkinson bother to contact AG Barr and verify the legitimacy of Barr and Durham’s investigation before deciding the whistle-blower was “creditable”…..?

    • underwhelmingposter says:

      Does anyone know about the WB being in fear for his life? If he/she did this for the cause, he/she would not be Arkancided. And no one has ever taken a bullet over a problem with a Repub that I am aware of. So this is a ploy I guess to find a way to hide his/her identity. PDJT is correct when he says he has the right to confront his accuser.

      • littleanniefannie says:

        Joe, is there any doubt about which side of the fence Atkinson is on? Check his bank account!
        They want the BSblower to be shielded from memories of what happened to CBF. They convinced her that she would be a hero. When she didn’t deliver, they dropped her like a hot lava rock. Personally, I think all the “protect the BSblower who fears for his life” is just a way to cast blame on President Trump when Arkancide befalls him!

  17. After all of this poor behavior by both elected and appointed officials will anyone be brought before a judge to answer official charges? I hope so but won’t be holding my breath!

  18. Dekester says:

    As much power and corrupt influence the Senate has, they evidence that is being compiled and compounded upon will overwhelm them.
    Have they ever had to deal with PDJT a President that is not beholden to any of them.
    PDJT won an election, that looking back on it, is hard to fathom how he won. ( short of a divine intervention)
    He and his supporters are not going to back down, and the whole world is watching this farce.
    The U.S.A. will get this right. Is there really any other option.
    Giuliani and Sekulow were on fire tonight..
    This is great to see.

  19. Constance Morrow says:

    IF President Trump gave the order for every possible declassification of every possible involved document to be published ASAP would that enable Barr or whoever to get the criminal Dem cabal locked up and stop impeachment? If so why doesn’t he do it already?

    • FPCHmom says:

      The intensity of the Trolling is directly proportional to the fear on the left.

      • icanhasbailout says:

        The one thing that Robert Mueller and his band of merry hitmen proved beyond any reasonable doubt is that Trump is clean as a whistle.
        If there was anything on him it would have been out there long ago. There’s nothing. He’s clean and not blackmailable.

    • Bluto Ruffian says:

      Constance Morrow:
      In short, NO.
      Legal stuff takes time to make it bullet proof.
      Deepstate sh1t will take a little longer but, is happening…
      The entire US Government (except for a few Republicans and outside interests [Judicial Watch, etc]) are aligned AGAINST President Trump.
      The swamp is a GLOBAL thing and only one man is trying to drain it. Who else is trying to drain the swamp? ANYBODY?
      If you think the President isn’t doing enough to get it done, just walk ONE INCH in HIS SHOES!

    • Lack is not all says:

      Are you talking about President Trump? When did you lose your marbles, isolation? Maybe too much isolation was detrimental for your brain health.

  20. Burr needs to be replaced ASAP. But turtle won’t do it.

  21. Archimedes Claw says:

    “…by using planted and designated corrupt agents WITHIN THE CABINET…”
    Now who would that be?

  22. Kleen says:

    Good luck with that survival tactic.
    If they allow Trump to be impeached I hope the GOP dissolves as party. End, go extinct.
    I will vote for Trump.
    If he is taken out, we need to take out the GOP
    Nunes, Jordan and a few others should form a new party.
    The GOP is contaminated by Democrat plants.

    • jebg46 says:

      What ever we do, we can’t allow demo-socialist-communists to win the presidency or have congressional power. We must save our Republic.

  23. So. Who will bring the real news to the people ? The people who for years have been lied to by the lib democrats in the current lame excuse for the “news” ? Who will tell them and how ? Most of the people we know who are clueless get the info that left them in that state from the liars in the msm………How will they be brought up to speed ?

  24. fangdog says:

    Though most think there is nothing affecting them personally if Trump is gone. They are wrong when it comes to their personal economics. Even the homeless will feel the pain as more “new” homeless join their present domain.

  25. JoeMeek says:

    Jeff Flake just put out another hateful op-ed … … … surprise, surprise … … against Trump.
    I think most of it was probably written by Mitt Romney though.

    • MakeAmericaGreat says:

      This is their last chance, and they know it. So all the dirtbags are climbing out of their sewers to aid the cause and try to make things seem “bipartisan.”
      Flake, Cindy McCain, Scarmucci, Paul Ryan, Mitt, etc.
      The only way to have a successful impeachment (removal) is to get GOP voters on board (or have don’t-care-about-their-political-futures Senators sign on). That’s where Flake and other RINO NeverTrumpers come into play.

    • littleanniefannie says:

      Flake and Romney—the “Southwest” Twins with identical hatred (for ,b.our President. Jealous. Both of them.

  26. Gort says:

    It’s beginning to look like impeachment is a fait accompli. The dems have to do it to distract from Wm. Barr’s investigation. But it will take 19 turncoat Republican Senators for removal — that’s quite a few, especially since it will be an act of political suicid for any Republican. I’m not sure the deep state has that many.
    Richard Burr: for sure, he’s retiring in 2022. I would say Mitt Romney: likely. Any others?

    • JoeMeek says:

      Isn’t that 20? 47 democrats + 20 republicans to make 67 ? Also,Manchen of West Virginia may split with the other dims.

      • Gort says:

        You are right, it’s 67 — and it would take 20 Republican Senators. Unless VP Pence gets a vote: that would make it 68. I just don’t see the deep state pulling that off.
        If Trump survives, there will be hell to pay.

        • GB Bari says:

          IMHO, Mitch McCorporatist probably wouldn’t let any Republican vote to convict (and risk that seat the next election) unless he has enough total votes (20) to convict.
          But, backing up….
          If the House votes to Impeach on the flimsy crap they’ve got now, I personally don’t see the Senate willing to risk their seats to go along, not matter what some of them have done as part of the coup. This entire case is purely political. As of yet there’s no proof that any crimes were committed by the President.
          So… I agree with Dustahl’s observation upthread. The trial will reveal a lot of corruption that most of those CorruptiCONS would rather not be aired in public.

        • underwhelmingposter says:

          Pence votes to break a tie.

          • wcmcgirt says:

            There cannot be a tie in the Senate impeachment vote. It takes 67 votes to convict. Sixty-six won’t do it. Pence will not have a vote.

    • Tl Howard says:

      No, it’s not.

    • farrier105 says:

      Who knows why those jackasses decided not only to impeach, but use Ukraine as an issue after Alexandra Chalupa of the DNC (and probably CIA) was the first to use Ukraine in favor of Hillary in 2015, before Trump was even nominated, and Manafort, before Trump even hired him? In a fair system, they wouldn’t dare try this since the Democrats were the first to use the Ukrainian government as their clearinghouse for Opposition Research about Donald Trump. The fact that they think they can get away with this is what is alarming. In normal times, no plotter would come up with an idea this moronic. There is no way normal people, in normal times, would even try something that actually points the finger at their entire organization as committing the same violation they claim their target, Trump, of committing, using Ukraine to get dirt on an opponent. This is just beyond stupid. It is the most BRAIN DEAD scheme they have ever tried. Trump-Russia was just incompetent. This is certifiable.

  27. montanamel says:

    Blk Night Rider:
    IF they don’t do their jobs and hang these followers of Satan …. WE, the People, will…
    Check-6 and order some more ammo and popcorn, eh?…

    • JoeMeek says:

      So one day the DNC and GOPe will view Satan’s Tree
      And all hang from it the same as he

    • GP says:

      Hi montanamel-This is will not go over well here…but for all the “cold anger” and “bring rope” and “check-6” stuff I read here, I am reasonably sure they could march Trump out of the WH and no one would show up in DC-oh maybe a few geriatric motorcycle gangs but nothing like Hong Kong.
      I hope I’m wrong or don’t have to find out.

  28. Kleen says:

    Horowitz appears to be a biased leftist who has a pattern of letting his fellow crooks walk free. His wife a typical leftist idiot.
    Zeenzee Graham said the report should be out in a couple of weeks.
    He has a hard time pretending to be mad at the coup plotters.
    He tries… but is always very careful with his words as if he doesn’t want to offend them in any way. He just can’t! He tries to play mad but can’t do it right. Terrible actor!

    • Tl Howard says:

      Most of those senators feel they’ll be there for decades longer. I’m sure Graham thinks he will. They know a POTUS’ time in DC is limited.
      Graham also knows that there won’t be another Trump.

  29. Gaius Gracchus says:

    Round them up! We either clean house or lose the country.

  30. Pedro says:

    Trump needs to implicate both DemoRats and Republicans on Twitter. Let the world that the corruption is widespread

    • FPCHmom says:

      Why would he do that if they hold his fate in their hands? They have the power to remove him from office.

  31. roddrepub says:

    I keep thinking the closer we get people (mainly DAD) will say we’re going after our the other side, but I look forward to seeing Warner and Burr going out together in handcuffs. I hope they get what’s coming to them! DAD = Dumb 4ss Democrats

  32. Moe Grimm says:

    Two words (2) need emphasis. Richard Burr “-R” (NC). This fraud is even lower than Warner, his dominatrix. There is nothing worse than those like Burr. At least Warner doesn’t hide his contempt for the cult marx contempt for the Country and president who will one day be recorded as one of if not the most effective President in U.S. history – if there’s anything left. but burr is a stealth slithering coward and Warner is his dominatrix.
    Here in Texas we have one just like Burr – that’s Cornyn. He has many Texans thoroughly duped. Yes the Duped Dope Contingent lives here too. He’s up for re-election next year as well, and the DD-Dope Contingent will send him back for yet another unopposed run at the pig trough. Cornyn is the one with the concerned look on his face always appearing as Michelle McConelle’s second head, left side or right, wherever he can elbow in enough standing room at one of Michelle’s press appearances. Cornyn like Burr is not only a fraud – he’s a dangerous fraud.

    • Kleen says:

      Yes and we watched the witch hunt against Paxton.
      P. Bush is another snake. But the sheep keeps voting for them.

    • Moe, up until now, swampy Republicans could hide under the “R” banner. Since PDJT, they are totally exposed… either they don’t represent the Republican Party, or we don’t. And if we don’t, I’m OK with that… I just hate being part of a party that includes us both!

  33. MakeAmericaGreat says:

    I believe that Obama made a trip out west in spring 2017. Think he stopped in Omaha (Buffett) on his journey, or around the same time.
    I believe Obama would not discuss the purpose of the trip(s).
    I felt, at that time, the Obama was going to fundraise for the Dan Jones/Fusion/Steele operation.
    Speaking of Obama — he of the Hawaii, New York and Martha’s Vineyard residences and whose youngest daughter just went off to college — why is he still in DC now? I thought the cover story was he was going to stay in DC until the younger daughter graduated high school.
    So why is he still there?
    I think we all know why.
    Mitch should take the SSCI chairmanship away from Burr. Isn’t Burr retiring when his term is up? That’s the exact kind of person who could go kamikaze on POTUS now, knowing he never has to face the voters again. Kind of like McCain and Obamacare.

  34. Kleen says:

    I’ve joined the Tea Party years ago hoping to primary out the RINOs
    I’ve volunteered in many campaigns, did the block walk thing, tried everything.
    RINOs go nowhere!
    We still have Cornyn here in Texas. He is adored by the sheep. They think he is a Republican for real. We still have P. Bush.
    They are here to stay!
    It would take Trump at his rallies to expose these Democrat plants.
    But I know he can’t do that right now.

  35. QCM says:

    If done for a legitimate reason, agreed, the country would understand and heal. However, play political games and remove a duly elected President for illegitimate reasons (like a haircut) and a sizable fraction of the people who voted for him may rise up. Not a good idea to play with that fire.

  36. Brutalus says:

    The people know…everyone knows.. the liberals know….but no body talks about it in the open… Political Facebook posts get 2 likes because everyones afraid to get into it…even out here in supposed liberal California, my neighbors and I have driveway conversations where everybody talks out of the side of their mouths about how rotten the deep state is…you’d have to be in a coma not too have absorbed how awful the Kavannaugh hearing was, the omelette on the face mueller flame out…now this Trump just sidestepping this Ukraine trap…it’s cumulative, just like Trump has rolled it out, just in time for 2020, three strike and you’re out…the funny thing is Trump has been running an outrage trap of his own…and now, hopefully that trap is sprung…the people know

    • Brutalus, I think PDJT’s most important accomplishment is IDENTIFYING the Deep State. Now that it’s been exposed, it will be easier to target the RINOs. In this impeachment charade you’ll have to decide if you’re with him, or against him. Both sides can’t and won’t win.

  37. “Oh, what a tangled web they weave, when they endeavor to deceive …”

    “Book ’em, Dano …”

  38. schizoid says:

    The constitution says “Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors,” not “any reason.” We don’t have no confidence votes in America.

  39. Kleen says:

    I keep forgetting “we” have the Senate.
    What a scam!
    We went out of our way to give them the privilege to represent us, and they are in it for themselves.
    Right now they are pretending to be useless. They try so hard to pretend to be mad at the left.
    They just sit there and let the left rule the country. The GOP agrees to anything the left impose on them. They gladly obey.
    Graham goes on Tv and does his best acting of being so mad at Democrats… terrible actor! So fake, nervous, uncomfortable with having to try to say any thing negative about his fellow cowards.

    • Kleen, Graham is a limp noodle that bends whichever way the wind is blowing. When President Trump wins this, he’ll be Trumps biggest supporter, but we’ll NEVER forget.

  40. curator55 says:

    As most of us have been saying in our own words for sometime, P Trump and A/G Barr need to release the “truth and the whole truth so help me God” or something similar.
    Bannon in the clip below is right about getting everything out to the public starting from 2015 and onward including evidence outlined in this article about some of the corruption in the Senate so Pelosi and Schiff can no longer be the main spearhead propagandists and P Trump the responder in this ongoing saga. The Dems and their friends have to be the ones responding to genuine allegations and proof.
    How to get it out to all the people is a difficult problem given the media corruption. Now Kamala Harris is demanding Twitter suspend Trump’s account because his words could harm people. (Breitbart)

  41. Kleen says:

    Convention of States?

  42. MustangBlues says:

    The American elite rulers’ seditious coup to persecute, to drive from office or annihilate President Donald J Trump, can
    occur ONLY under the respect for a functioning rule of law.
    To violate the common law to follow a pernicious ideological application of the law, is the death knell of civilized culture. Chaos and mayhem will follow like night follows day.
    The first to go will be the security personnel of the elites, fleeing to save their own from the revolt of the masses. The elites next, having now the direct fighting of their own battles, now painfully physical under tribal barbarian rule. The fury of the people to betrayal of government will ravage mercilessly until the lust is spent.
    No one will escape that justice, the unequal shall never rule the equal.
    Educate yourself what is coming–there is nothing new under the sun:
    Read about the causes of consequences of revolt and revolution:

    • underwhelmingposter says:

      McCain embarrassed Arizona. Ryan embarrassed Wisconsin. McCain married into the Busch distribution powerhouse owned by Cindy McCain’s father. Ryan let down people who thought he was a hard working honest servant for the public good. Flake embarrasses everybody. There is a reason he lives in Snowflake. It’s in the name. Someone reached Scarmuchi (sp?) and told him where the treasure maps are and he will have his own if he abides by the ???? powers that be. So many more, so tired fingers!

    • underwhelmingposter says:

      “It was the best of times, it was the worst of times”

  43. Mr. T. says:

    Wow, Sundance. That was a lot to digest. My head is spinning. Good Job, but then, you always do a good job. Thank You!

  44. Parker Longbaugh says:

    Your rules only apply to Republicans. You can impeach a Republican for anything. A Democrat can not be impeached for any crime. They just proved it when Hillary got a pass for her treasonous leaking of classified intelligence. She was the Democrats nominee for goodness sakes. They supported and tried to put in office a known national security risk.
    Tell you what, if those in DC take President Trump out in this manner it becomes our turn to take them out.
    It is our goverment, our nation, they are emoloyees.

  45. MAGADJT says:

    Someone told me Rush said today that Romney told Pelosi in secret that there are enough GOP Senators that will vote to convict on impeachment.
    Did anyone hear this? If so, it might be time to push the panic button. We will need to start taking some kind of coordinated grassroots action now to have even a small hope of fending off this farce.

    • GP says:

      HI MAGADJT-here’s a clip on that Rush comment:

      • GB Bari says:

        So Limbaugh was reporting what he heard that Romney told Pelosi – that there are enough RepubliCONs to convict the President, but Limbaugh does not believe Romney’s claim.
        Limbaugh believes Romney was making that claim to endear himself to Pelosi and other Trump haters, thinking that position is good for his own political future.

        • littleanniefannie says:

          If this is true, Pence better be careful. Arkancide will be in his future for sure. Pelosi wants the top job.

  46. American Nationalist says:

    This is a grossly incorrect argument with regards to the impeachment proceedings and to the framers thinking. The framers rejected ‘maladministration’, precisely because the idea of political overthrows was untenable to the Republic. It’s for this same reason that they used the phrase ‘high crimes and misdemeanors’ and to be sure no one misunderstood they used the word ‘high’, which can simply be transliterated to meaning ‘crimes of importance’. To dumb it down even further: No, the speaker cannot credibly impeach the President for his hair style. Or for jaywalking, because though it’s a misdemeanor, good luck arguing it’s a high crime. The same goes for discussing with the Ukrainian President.
    To close succinctly, the President must stand charged of a serious offense, which can actually meet the criteria. Any ‘impeachment’ that fails to meet that criteria, is a black mole on the House (See the 1999 Clinton impeachment). Yes, Pelosi and this house is not physically barred from the impeachment, but you can be sure the Senate will dress down the House as I have done here. Your argument is that of the Speaker’s, and I thus reject it summarily.

    • American Nationalist says:

      Being even more blunt(cont), it’s not as though this House is without remedy if impeachment doesn’t fit. This House can censure the President. That the House under Pelosi hadn’t even taken up a censure vote, shows the lack of honesty. If the House contends by inaction that it can’t censure the President, it sure as hell can’t impeach him.

    • tav144 says:

      Bravo, American Nationalist ?

  47. TexasDude says:

    Question …
    Is this supposed to make us mad or deflate us?

    • MAGADJT says:

      Who knows. This site has felt like a slowly deflating balloon lately. I know Sundance has a job to do, but I’m going to take a break from CTH for awhile. The recent tone makes you think there isn’t any hope of winning.

      • fabrabbit says:

        MAGADJT: I’m leaving the country for a few weeks…taking a break from CTH, too. It’s not Sundance’s reporting, it’s the comments that depress me.

  48. Rileytrips says:

    But… since Jan. 2017, Sen. Warner is not, and has not ever been, the Majority Chair of the Senate Intelligence Comm. I see what Warner, Feinstein, Wolfe, complicit DOJ, etc…have done to set this all up.
    But….still, what about Burr? Sen. Burr is the supposed Republican Chair of this Committee. He is over Sen. Warner. Where is he in all this? What is his role? What has he done, that these traitors hold over his head?

  49. GP says:

    What the DS is saying is “WE WILL NOT ALLOW ANOTHER 4 YEARS OF TRUMP”. Now think about that and just what are you going to do about it? If we allow this to happen, it is curtains my friend.

  50. Republicanvet91 says:

    I wonder what happened to the phone of that Navy sailor who took pictures on his sub, and was prosecuted for having classified material.
    I suspect it was confiscated and examined.
    Certainly Wolfe’s phone was confiscated or there was a record that could have been obtained showing what he texted to Watkins. Certainly that may have been “lost” during the investigation. Hell, Mueller may have hammered it right next to Stzrok’s phone.
    Given Miss Liu was less than willing to prosecute, I wonder if her letter to Ms. Watkins was just a notice that her accounts had been cleaned of any evidence.

  51. Dim Osmab says:

    One thing i don’t understand, why would Wolfe and Warner leak FISA? because this FISA disclosure is bad for democrats.

  52. Tl Howard says:

    And what pisses me off is that networks, including Fox, still quote the NYTimes and the WaPo as if that’s accurate journalism. For God sakes, don’t they know we know those papers are the disseminators of Deep State crap. They act like we’ve never heard of “Russia, Russia” and a special prosecutor’s report.
    I see Dem spinners on almost every show spouting the “It’s not appropriate for Barr to be involved.”
    I feel such disgust that if one of them were in front of me, I’m afraid I’d spit on them.

  53. Tl Howard says:

    Graham seems to have let the cat out of the bag tonight in alluding to the IG Report coming out in two weeks.
    I’d like it sooner. Much sooner.

  54. Soldier/Cop/Grunt, Retired says:

    The U.S. Senate Also Has a Survival Interest in Serving the American People! And,,,,,,, More are watching each and every day!

  55. usayes says:

    Go back and read what a Senate trial would entail. That is not something any of these swampbaggers want. It would expose everything.

    • GB Bari says:

      Yep. ALL of the dirt and swamp gas will be exposed by PDJT’s lawyers, nothing held back, not for any one in any agency nor for any Congress members or staff, not for any corrupt judges or Justices (here’s looking at you, FISC Judges and SCOTUS Chief Justice John Roberts!)
      Government Graft and Corruption on display for all of America and the world to see.
      Sekulow and Giuliani should be making that crystal clear now.

    • chipin8511 says:

      Make no mistake CIA led Coup in progress
      Fellow patriots we are experiencing what the CIA does to other countries here in the USA It’s a full blown coup.

    • dd_sc says:

      I think a lot of that will depend on how Senator Mitch McConnell structures the trial. Back when Clinton was impeached, Majority Leader Trent Lott went through a lot of negotiations with Minority Leader Tom Daschle about how to proceed (McConnell and Collins were junior senators at the time).
      A lot of the key evidence Team Trump will want to introduce is still classified. Do his lawyers have the clearance – or will this be like Ms. Powell in the Flynn case? I wouldn’t count on McConnell having a closed door trial where every senator would then be given clearance to see the evidence.
      Senator Robert Byrd introduced a dismissal motion ahead of the trial. It will be interesting if a Republican senator (Rand Paul?) attempts that in support of President Trump given that, unlike President Clinton, President Trump is innocent and clearly being framed.

      • cazykaz says:

        Indeed, how McConnell structures the trial will be the “tell” if he’s supportive of Trump, or in league with the RINOs lead by Romney. Since McConnell is up for re-election, I’m gonna assume he will be generous to Trump and his attorneys.

        • stripmallgrackle says:

          I like your thinking. McConnell may not be up to his eyeballs in the conspiracy, but he isn’t without political loyalties, either. He will hold all the cards, if only for a little while.

      • Atomic Hillbilly says:

        Clinton was a weasel.
        Trump is a brawler.
        Unlike the Clinton impeachment, Trump is the one who gets to decide what is declassified.
        If this makes it to the senate, don’t doubt for 1 second that Trump won’t show up with a flamethrower that spits declassified flames out of it…

  56. trialbytruth says:

    TRUMP is not Nixon.
    Trump will step into the dias and the soft handed powdered bottomed ladies boy old men will shrivel.
    I imagine a few strokes and heart attacks as he opens his mouth and roads.
    How many months would an impeachment trial go on my guess is years. Trump would make.the most of it. He would rail and expose all of their corruption.
    Next midterm a new party would appear. A Fed up electorate would engage with it. A new Citizens Trump. He would win seats and a new day would begin.
    Excuse my flight of fancy but Trump is not a Quaker.

    • littleanniefannie says:

      Love it—Citizen’s Party—double entendre there!

    • grumpyqs says:

      May explain why POTUS Trump is reluctant to have all those classified docs released; he’s planning to put on a defense like NEVER before. Watching Congress get destroyed by their own crimes, as they hold their own Kangaroo Kourt! I’m all in for a NEW party!

      • Pyrthroes says:

        Absent the faction’s obstreperous Whig complement, we channel a post-Jacksonian reformist claque originally called the “Equal Rights Party”, later Locofocos (after a brand of kitchen matches). Pres. Trump’s no Locofoco, but … he’ll do.
        Do-gooders of this persuasion supported Andrew Jackson and van Buren; free trade; specie vs. fiat banknotes; capital markets, organized labor, State (vs. national) infrastructure banks depicted in Henry Clay’s American System. (“Organized labor” has long since forfeited libertarian claims.)
        Ralph Waldo Emerson said of the Locofocos: “These … fanatics for freedom are stiff, heady, and rebellious; they hate banks and hierarchies, governors, taxes, tolls, turnpikes … yea, most laws.” However jejeune, terminally naïve it seems, this first-principle Locofoco sense drove America’s historic growth-and-change to Wilson, FDR, and LBJ, when metastasizing Deep State apparats mounted dark-interest coups d’oeuvre as Poor Richard prophesied.

        • stripmallgrackle says:

          Who knows? Perhaps Trump’s draining of the swamp will bring proceedings to a turn of fate similar to attorney J. Welch’s defining McCarthy moment…minus the histrionics and complete lack of factual content, of course. If Trump gets that moment, he will devour his prey whole, on national TV for all to witness, leaving no trace of feigned innocence behind for any but the most ignorant to feast on. And they will find nothing but bones to satisfy their appetites.
          Joseph Welch to Senator Joseph McCarthy, June 9, 1954,”Until this moment, Senator, I think I never really gauged your cruelty or your recklessness…You have done enough. Have you no sense of decency?”

    • eldjr says:

      It’s time for ‘branding genius’ PRESIDENT DJT to re-brand the GOP; In the 21st century the moniker “Grand Old Party” is as relevant as a buggy-whip. It’s time to redefine the acronym G.O.P. as “Government Of the People”. IT would be a delicious coup upon th Old Guard, and re-focus the upcoming election as the People against the Privileged Ruling Class.

    • Spryte says:

      “…soft handed powdered bottomed ladies boy old men will shrivel.” OMG, I’m crying. Your mind is traveling down an incredibly funny path. I even have a visual, hahahha. I love this. Folks on this site are really clever and have a great way with words. So glad I’m a part of it for so many reasons. Patriots all!!!

    • 2Alpha says:

      I’m so glad that others are finally seeing what kind of person Don Trump really is. He has taken on all the corruption in NYC for years. He has done battle with the unions, the renters associations, the weasels in city hall, the mob thugs, the black community and the media. Don Trump is a winner. He likes to let his opponents expose themselves with their emotional delusions and encourages them with the casual barb here and there. Ultimately, opponents unknowingly position themselves into a position of weakness and Don Trump simply walks up to them with a noose in his hand and says, “Would you like me to put this around your neck or would you prefer to do it yourself?”
      Trump always wins because others simply don’t understand him…

  57. mildtosevere says:

    And your point is?
    If you think that Trump, Barr, Durham and company aren’t aware of all this (UNREDACTED) since it began AND has people in positions you don’t approve of-what IS the point?
    Cold anger?
    I prefer to let Trump game this out and watch the show.
    The previews are over and it’s really beginning to snowball-ask sleepy Joe. One step under barryo!!

  58. gda53 says:

    Your logic fails when you consider that they have flung every piece of possible dirt at him over the last 3+ years. AND they’ve been ‘investigating’ him forever, not just since he decided to run in 2015.
    What, you think they’ve been holding back? Seriously?
    Plus, your feigned and fake exclamation about the “Republicans controlled everything” hardly ring true in the first 2 years of PDJT’s term. Can you seriously suggest PDJT would have had the political capital to refuse to renew FISA given the roiling of snakes going on around him?
    Hello, Mueller fake Russia probe?
    Hello Resistance & Deep State leakers?
    Hello Never-Trumpers and RINOs?
    Hello friend Ryan and friend McConnell?
    Hello traitor McCain?
    That seems the sort of disinformation the Resistance would try to flog. It doesn’t sell here.

    • gda53 says:

      Seems the one I was commenting on has been shown the door. This post may not make sense anymore.
      PS: I thought I was going mad for a moment until I saw emeraldcoaster below, who was as outraged as I.

    • chipin8511 says:

      The US Military selected Trump to run he is being protected by Military Generals make no mistake they wanted to overthrow Obama as they knew he was a criminal and would not let them do their job in Wars restrictions…. Soon as they were lifted by Trump we got rid of ISIS who Obama created why MIC $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

  59. emeraldcoaster says:

    “…get rid of FISA court…” And how would our POTUS manage that? No way Congress would go along with either rescinding the law or amend the FISC away.

  60. glissmeister says:

    You make powerful and practical arguments. Your logic is clear, persuasive and disheartening; appropriately sobering.
    However, when the actions are not coup but instead sedition, are you saying US Senators may act seditiously? Can members and employees of Congress and our other government agencies freely engage in acts of sedition? In what manner are they free to conspire to commit sedition or act seditiously in concert with foreign interests and cohorts; at liberty to demonstrably engage in such sedition and do so with impunity?
    I am no so certain the impunity argument will hold if sedition against a newly elected POTUS can be otherwise demonstrated, especially when it might also be demonstrated that foreign nationals and governments were solicited and used to conduct the sedition.
    To me, rhetorical accusations of “coup” are merely a way of characterizing potential evidence of more serious crimes which may have been committed.

    • glissmeister says:

      Yeah. I was also responding to the now apparently vaporized troll, but a skillful troll none-the-less; the arguments were quite strong and deeply disturbing, and, I think, ultimately misleading and destructive. “Coup” is rhetorical term we may be stuck with for a while. “Sedition” is a matter of significant complexity with a deliberative process that determines its finding.

      • jx says:

        Framing one candidate in an attempt to Install another candidate who does not have public consent is not a coup? Attempting to overthrow an elected president is not a coup? Then what is?
        Sedition involves incitement and rebellion. Contrast with a coup, which involves a political faction illegally taking power. A coup does not necessarily involve violence. It often does, but not necessarily. Sedition, on the other hand, does necessarily involve force (18 U.S.C. § 2384).
        In this instance those involved are not inciting rebellion, they are a political faction in the government which sought and still seeks to illegally obtain power. That is the very definition of a coup.

        • jx says:

          These people do not seek to overthrow the government, they seek to seize control of it. That is a difference between sedition and coup.

        • chipin8511 says:

          Make no mistake CIA led Coup in progress
          Fellow patriots we are experiencing what the CIA does to other countries here in the USA It’s a full blown coup.

        • CharterOakie says:

          Thanks for the clarity. Well stated.

  61. I have often said that Dan Jones real purpose with the $50 million was not so much to keep Steele and Simpson’s investigation going, but to be the bagman paying off the two people who knew the real truth. If either of those two turned states evidence, a whole lot of people are going down. $50 million can go a long way. Now the real question I would like to see answered…where did the $50 million come from? I’ve seen a lot of SD articles mentioning this, but I don’t ever recall the claim being sourced? Inquiring minds would like to know!

  62. fangdog says:

    The Dow Jones is an excellent indicator as to how well or how poor things are going as it relates to impeachment, as well as other things Trump. As a general rule; Things going well for Trump the market goes up. Things going poorly for Trump the market goes down.
    Trump is all about the people and cares less about the, Deep State, Globalist, Uni-party who are in it for themselves. As of right now, the Stock market is saying don’t worry about the impeachment charade despite the media propaganda. It is not so much the market goes up or down as it is the market remain relatively stable.

  63. The one thing I never see mentioned in your analysis is the ballot harvesting law that was passed in California that allowed the dems to pick up 5 seats in the house. I believe this was definitely part of the greater conspiracy, because without the numbers in the house, none of this coup/impeachment effort would be possible. It also might explain why in extended post-election counting almost all the seats swung democrat, including that of the minority candidate in Fresno who had a solid lead on election night.

  64. Jenevive says:

    I know people wonder about Barr. But
    he is Bush guy..why would they want to take him they did Kavanaugh another Bush guy?
    Like others have said why would Barr come out of retirement
    to have his reputation sullied this way? on purpose? That
    make no sense. If he plans on letting the coup
    plotter go why bother traveling around like this
    in person and setting the other side hair on fire?
    I have to wonder if some sorta deal wasn;t made
    with the Bushes.. POTUS certainly stood by
    Kavanaugh during that mess. POTUS isn;t whining
    about Barr like he did Jeff Sessions.
    THe Bush family has been very quite since
    Daddy Bush funeral..
    Liz Cheney (daughter of Dick Cheney) is now out
    saying maybe this was set up of POTUS.
    But then also weren;t the Bushes and Clintons friends
    Bill was close with Bush Sr. But now the Clinton side
    is willing to take out Bush People..

  65. digleigh says:


    • Jederman says:

      If he hasn’t done the right thing by now, it’s unlikely he ever will. Unless as a desperate survival response.
      He appears to be a bought and paid for globalist who is not running for re-election. NC likely never enters his head.
      The system is rotten and must be corrected.

  66. digleigh says:


    • Zorro says:

      Yes, we have to tell the pols and Barr that we know what’s going on. Very important.

      • dawg says:

        Amen. Ive been calling Senators, Representatives and emailing the AG and DOJ telling them exactly that.
        “WE KNOW!”

  67. digleigh says:

    Sundance: to your knowledge has anyone interviewed waldman,Jones or re-interviewed Wolfe??

  68. FreedomLover says:

    This is all getting very interesting.
    With regard to “is this information supposed to make me happy or sad”, Sundance is clear, along with other meaningful poster’s here, that this is simply sunlight and truth with no responsibility for anyone’s feelings. Except maybe “cold anger” 😉
    Mitch’s warning is that IF congress goes through impeachment and sends it to the Senate, he must take it up. Several people have mentioned what a true trial would mean – a place to (finally) showcase all that’s known about all of the corrupt things that have taken place. I’m not certain if what’s allowed to be covered in the trial is limited to the scope of the impeachment articles. That may be their (Dem’s in Congress) angle.
    It would be good for people to lay out what could be done by bad people to engineer the proceedings in the Senate trial to somehow not allow what would be needed to fully defend the President against charges. Otherwise, I’m not sure why the Dem’s would really want to do this.
    It still seems like their best play is to continue the impeachment debate for the rest of the President’s term.

    • Jackson says:

      The Senate hearings will not require any particular form. It will need decided by the Senate. In the Clinton impeachment there were three days of the impeachment managers presenting their case, then three days of rebuttal by Clinton’s team led by Cheryl Mills. Then we procedural votes were held. A vote to dismiss all charges by Sem. Byrd, which had been tabled on the first day, was voted down 56-44, on straight party lines. A vote to permit interrogation of witnesses passed, and the house managers did video depositions of Vernon Jordan, Sid Blumenthal, and Monica. Then it was decided that only excerpts of the depositions would be used.
      As you can see there is no set or required process. The ideas that Trump’s attorneys will be able to flip the tables and put the Deep State in trial seems unlikely.
      I note it is very popular with the “trust the plan” crew, whose track record for accurate scenarios is laughable. (See: “sealed indictments” “martial law” “Gitmo” “military tribunals”)

      • Deplorable_Vespucciland says:

        The notion that a Senate Trial in this case would last just 6 days is laughable. It would last at least 6 weeks. Since there is no “set or required process” the Senate majority will decide on procedure and the minority will have no say. That would be a direct reflection of the House impeachment proceedings; indeed turnabout is fair play.

    • The problem for both Houses of Congress is that evidence of deep corruption is mounting very quickly, and the very same foreign governments which the US officials “roughed up” are now the ones who are openly coming clean and revealing – under oath – what actually happened.
      So, it is clear that “impeachment” is being considered, not to punish high crimes and misdemeanors on the part of the President, but to protect high crimes and misdemeanors which have been committed (and, are being committed) by … Members of Congress and former Presidents and Veeps!

      “We want to expel this President because he wants to expose us.”

      This episode of The Swamp Strikes Back cannot end well for Trump’s accusers because Trump (and Rudy-G) has the proof of what transpired, and has the means to make it public to the entire world. His accusers have now literally been reduced to writing works of fiction, claiming that it is testimony and evidence of crime, when no Court in the world would accept it as such. They seek to advance the case that “the President violated the law,” when “the law” is their version. They seek to conceal the fact that they themselves did violate the law – the real version. And they have no power to prevent the governments of other nations from testifying, under oath, that they did so.

      • Jederman says:

        I hear ya, but you would think the dems would come to their senses and cut a deal before the scheisse storm hits.
        It seems unlikely this is merely a “narrative war.” What is their end state? Do they think they have something up their sleeve that will prevail in the senate? And if it prevailed what are they going to do with the half of the country that knows the truth?
        All the cards would have to fall perfectly for the senate to convict PT prior to the election, then all Trump voters in disgust at the betrayal stand down in 2020, the dems control all three branches and the “fundamental transformation” under a socialist government goes berserk.
        The dems have to win everything in 2020 and immediately take off the gloves to keep the country under control or be crushed by the backlash.

  69. magaxena58 says:

    If every treeper copied this post (with Sundance’s blessing of course) and forwarded it to their senators, Congress reps and Barr to confirm to them that “we are woke on all this bullshit so do the right thing” it would make it obvious to them that the jig is up!!!

  70. CharterOakie says:

    Sundance — Is it not plausible that Wolfe flipped and agreed to secret cooperation with the DOJ in exchange for the plea deal?
    I.e. he agrees to provide additional documentation, maybe wear a wire, is monitored 24/7 by special agents and one peep or wink/nod from him to tip off others nullifies the plea arrangement and he gets charged fully.
    Seems to me that such a scenario is just as plausible as letting him off easily just to protect the SSCI, powerful as those senators may be. Wolfe’s crime, which you have documented clearly, was too serious for that.

  71. Impeachment is the candle flame, and Democrats are the moths.
    Many people in Washington, DC have been engaged in international crime for many decades. Biden “roughed up” the government of Ukraine and boasted about it on television. Sitting Members of Congress did the same. Several foreign governments are now testifying – under oath – about what has been done to them, as they, too, have new public officers who attained their office on “drain the swamp.” It doesn’t take any mental effort to see that the swamp merely wants to rid itself of someone who is capable of exposing them.
    But, I actually do not believe that Articles of Impeachment will pass the House. If some of the claims made in those Articles are “substantiated” by what can be proved to be a work of fiction that no Court would accept, and that have to do with a country that now testifies that it has been the victim of corruption brought by Americans, then the action is both Unconstitutional and political suicide.
    Also, I’m looking for the court case, Trump v. US House of Representatives, to directly challenge the constitutionality of the present attempt. The Impeachment Clause specifically says that Congress can only remove an officer; it cannot convict them of nor charge them with a crime. And the same clause says by implication that the officer must be facing actual or immediately-pending legal charges in the Courts … when in this case the Justice system concluded as a matter of law that this will never occur. The founders specifically excluded “maladministration” – a charge still available in English law – and inserted the Clause that we have today.

  72. Luckstone says:

    Here’s a list of the GOP senators on the SSCI: Burr (SC)/Rino; Risch (ID)/?; Rubio (FL)/Rino; Collins (ME)/Dem/Rino; Blunt (MO)/Rino; Lankford (OK)/?; Cotton (AR)/?; Cornyn (TX)/Rino. We already know which ones knew/most likely knew what the Democrats were doing…Burr, Rubio, Blunt, Collins and Cornyn. I don’t know about Risch, Lankford or Cotton. I do know that We the People need to start posting about all the GOP members on this committee and demand to know what they were all doing in regards to this coup…especially Burr.

  73. jeans2nd says:

    There is another aspect that may be relevant.
    Anyone listen to Rep Nunes’ interview last Fri with Michael Caputo?
    I did. Several times.
    Michael Caputo outlined Caputo’s contact Spring 2016 with 17 year FBI informant Russian Henry Greenberg, and Greenberg’s contact with Roger Stone. Greenberg was attempting to sell Crooked’s emails to Caputo and Stone. Stone told Greenberg Mr Trump does not pay for dirt. This appears to be before the George Popadopolous contacts.
    Caputo, testifying to SSCI early 2018, had a famous “Dam you to hell” moment. What was not reported was Caputo’s prior words “Who of you spoke with Dan Jones this morning, who received their daily briefing from Jones to obtain questions for me? Whoever it is, dam you to hell.”
    Jones was still dirtying up everyone associated with the entire Trump Campaign in 2018.
    In Rep Nunes’ podcast, Caputo makes mention that he and Rep Nunes had been talking for a while before the podcast, and Caputo was telling Rep Nunes everything he, Caputo, knew.
    Caputo knows alot, as Caputo hired private investigators to trace people and actions.
    And now Rep Nunes knows everything Caputo knows and has found.
    Rep Nunes communicates directly with AG Barr. We know that as Rep Nunes has told us.
    With whom else has Rep Nunes been questioning, and funneling the info to AG Barr?
    What better way to obtain info, without the Swamp seeing and leaking?
    Just a badly educated hunch. But one suspects there is more, unexpected, coming

  74. dd_sc says:

    Question for the legal experts.
    Should the impeachment actually go to trial in the Senate, could Team Trump do what Wolfe’s attornies threatened and call Warner and other Gang of 8 for Intel oversight as witnesses?
    Get Pelosi on the stand under oath!

  75. EJ says:

    As much as Mitch would probably love to sack Trump, Trump is too powerful to do that now. Doing so would be catastrophic for the GOP going forward. If Trump got busted doing something legitimately wrong, it may be a different conversation, but these allegations are weak at best and more likely a joke. Mitch knows how to put on the facade, which cuts both ways. Knowing he has to save Trump to save his party, he can do a good job making any resulting “trial” look legit while tanking it. This will be more so the case if it looks like Warren gets the nom. Just my opinion of course

  76. Atomic Hillbilly says:

    Barr got handed a grenade with no pin.
    He’s standing there holding the handle down wondering which way to throw it….
    Throw it at the swamp Bill!
    Throw it at the swamp!

  77. BigTalkers says:

    Certainly GOP Senators have a “Money” interest in playing along with Impeachment. Such an effort would be popular in The Swamp if forwarded to the Ssnate by the House.
    However, when their voters catch on, it is highly likely such dalliance will lead to their own self-extinction. (Think McConnell, Sasse, and Burr just for starters.)
    Moreover, if successful, this action will also undoubtedly result in a “Nuclear Winter” for the entire Republican party.

  78. Brenrod says:

    In spite of all the gossip about Barr and durham investigating I believe they are instrumental in covering it all up. Since we have seen no peeps out of the GOP in the house or the senate that amounts to anything that is affective we should take that to mean they would rather be rid of Trump than create a big ruckus amongst their friends and associates. I expect that it goes to the Senate and we suddenly see a lot of GOP voting with the Democrats because some latest bit of information was really “just a bit too much for them to accept from Trump.” The Dems know that the GOP in the Senate want him out as much as them so they can all get back to work with what they were doing before Trump came along and not go to jail. Hearing not a peep from the house GOP is the harbinger of what we can expect from the senate GOP. Along the way they have had a great deal of opportunity to create a real defense and attack, and they came up with NOTHING!

  79. Brenrod says:

    I wonder, if Trump is impeached and thrown out of office can he run again for president using a new third-party? I know I would vote for him if he created a new third-party

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