Disappointing – Judge Sullivan Folds, Accepts Mueller Team Non-Production….

In the Weissmann/Mueller case against Michael Flynn there are two material points of evidence central to the underlying issue:

  1. The FBI 302 report written by agent Joe Pientka; as an outcome of the interview of Michael Flynn January 24th, 2017, conducted by Peter Strzok and Pientka.
  2. The recording/transcript of the December 29th, 2016, phone call intercept between Michael Flynn and Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak.

According to the special counsel position Flynn lied about the 12/29/16 phone call content during the 1/24/17 FBI interview. However, this always appeared to be a sketchy claim.  Seemingly suspecting something was amiss, in two separate court demands, Judge Emmet Sullivan requested production of both the Flynn 302 and the transcript of the call.

The special counsel’s office (Brandon Van Grack), and the DC U.S. Attorney Jessie Liu, refused to provide the underlying evidence to the court.  Instead they informed the court the material was irrelevant to their prosecution of Flynn:

(Source pdf)

The recordings are part of the underlying case against Flynn, upon which the FBI questioning took place. However, the DOJ claimed the recordings are not part of the prosecution for “lying to FBI investigators” aspect; therefore, no recordings would be produced.

It seems like a very odd parsing of evidence presented to the court (for sentencing), and underlying evidence never shown to the court, used in prosecuting.  It is also worth noting within this position; and considering the plea agreement was signed in November of 2017; the defense team was likely never provided the FD-302 written by Pientka, and/or the transcript of the call.

The outstanding question was: will judge Emmet Sullivan accept the position of the prosecution and allow non-production?   Today we get the answer:

(source)

So the judge is accepting the position of the special counsel prosecutors.

Apparently Flynn will be sentenced without anyone ever looking at the underlying evidence and comparing the claim of “lying” against the call transcript and interview.

It is speculation, but perhaps the reason for dropping everything “as is” relates to the potential for the institutions of government, specifically as it relates to FISA abuse, to be badly damaged [assuming Flynn was under FISA authorized surveillance].

The Sullivan determination allows everyone to exit the case without further scrutiny.

BACKSTORY…

On December 29, 2016, President Obama announced a series of sanctions against Russians who were located in Maryland. This was Obama’s carefully constructed response to provide additional validity to the Joint Analysis Report. After fueling the Russia conspiracy for several weeks the Obama administration knew this action would initiate a response from both Russia and the incoming Trump administration.

After the December 29, 2016, sanctions against Russia, the Obama IC were monitoring Kislyak communications and watching for contact with the incoming Trump administration.

Additionally, it is suspected Flynn may have been under a FISA surveillance warrant which seems confirmed by the Weissmann/Mueller report. The FBI intercepted, recorded, and later transcribed the conversation. [Notice how Judge Sullivan says: “and any other audio recordings”; ie he’s suspecting additional surveillance.]

In the January 2017 background, the media were continuing to follow the lead from the Obama White House, and Intelligence Community (writ large), by fueling a narrative that any contact with Russians was proof of collusion of some sort. In addition, the communications team of the Obama White House, DOJ, FBI and aggregate IC began pushing a narrative surrounding the obscure Logan Act.

The ridiculous Logan Act angle was promoted by Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates, and targeted to infer that any action taken by the Trump campaign prior to taking office was interference with the political Obama Russia action. Any contact with Russian government officials would be evidence of collusion. That was the plan. DOJ Deputy AG Sally Yates was in charge of pushing the Logan Act narrative to the media.

The first two weeks of January 2017 was a merging of two necessary narratives: (1) Russian interference; and (2) the Logan Act. Each deployed against any entity who would counter the Russia narrative story.

The media were running this dual narrative 24/7 against the incoming Trump officials and demanding repeated answers to questions that were framed around this story-line.

On January 3rd, 2017, the new congressional year began. SSCI Vice-Chair Dianne Feinstein abdicated her position within the Gang-of-Eight, and turned over the reigns to Senator Mark Warner. Warner was now the vice-chair of the SSCI; and a Go8 member.

On January 6th, 2017, the Obama White House published the Intelligence Community Assessment, and declared:

We assess Putin and the Russian Government aspired to help President-elect Trump’s election chances when possible by discrediting Secretary Clinton and publicly contrasting her unfavorably to him. All three agencies agree with this judgment. CIA and FBI have high confidence in this judgment; NSA has moderate confidence. (pdf link)

It is not coincidental the ICA was “high confidence” by Brennan and Clapper; and less confidence by Mike Rogers (NSA).

With the Flynn Dec. 29, 2016, transcript in hand, the DOJ and FBI began aiding the Logan Act narrative with Obama intelligence officials supporting the Russia Conspiracy claims and decrying anyone who would interfere or counter the official U.S. position.

On January 14th, 2017, the content of the communication between Flynn and Kislyak was leaked to the Washington Post by an unknown entity. Likely the leak came from the FBI’s counterintelligence operation; the same unit previously carrying out the 2016 campaign spying operations. [Andrew McCabe is highly suspected]

The FBI CoIntel group (Strzok, McCabe etc.), and the DOJ-NSD group (Yates, McCord etc.) were the largest stakeholders in the execution of the insurance policy phase because they were the epicenter of spygate, fraudulent FISA presentations and the formation of the Steele Dossier.

The media leak of the Flynn conversation with Kislyak was critical because the DOJ/FBI were pushing a political narrative. This was not about legality per se’, this effort was about establishing the framework for a preexisting investigation, based on a false premise, that would protect the DOJ and FBI. The investigation they needed to continue evolved into the Mueller special counsel. This was all insurance.

The Flynn-Kislyak leak led to Vice-President Mike Pence being hammered on January 15th, 2017, during a CBS Face the Nation interview about Trump campaign officials in contact with Russians. Pence was exceptionally unprepared to answer the questions and allowed the media to blend questions about campaign contacts with necessary, and entirely appropriate, transition team contacts.

Sunday January 15th, 2017 – VP-elect Mike Pence appears on Face The Nation. [Transcript Here]

JOHN DICKERSON: But there’s a distinction between that feeling about the press and legitimate inquiry, as you say, that the Senate Intelligence Committee is doing.

Just to button up one question, did any advisor or anybody in the Trump campaign have any contact with the Russians who were trying to meddle in the election?

MIKE PENCE: Of course not. And I think to suggest that is to give credence to some of these bizarre rumors that have swirled around the candidacy. (link)

*NOTE* The incoming administration was under a false-narrative siege created by the media. At the time (early Jan, 2017) ‘any contact’ with Russians was evidence of meddling/election-collusion with Russians. VP-elect Mike Pence poorly answered the question from Dickerson from a very defensive position.

The toxic media environment and Mike Pence speaking poorly during a Face The Nation interview now became a much bigger issue.

Once Vice-President Mike Pence made the statement that Flynn had no contact with anyone from Russia etc. any contradictory statement from Flynn would make Pence appear compromised. Michael Flynn is now contrast against Pence’s false point without clarification. As National Security Advisor Flynn was interviewed by the FBI on January 24th, nine days after Pence made his comments.

Tuesday January 24th – Lt. Gen. Mike Flynn was interviewed at the WH by the FBI.

During this ambush interview, disguised as a meeting, FBI Agent Peter Strzok and FBI Agent Joe Pientka were contrasting Vice-President-elect Pence’s statements to CBS against the known action of Mike Flynn. [Flynn has three options: either (1) Flynn contradicts Pence, or (2) he tells a lie; or (3) Flynn explains Pence misspoke, those were his options.]

How Flynn responded to the line of inquiry, and explained/reconciled the difference between Pence’s statement on Jan 15th and what actually took place on December 29th, 2016, is why the FBI ended up with the initial conclusion that Flynn wasn’t lying.

It is within this dynamic where the FD-302 reports, written by Strzok and Pientka, then became the subject of political manipulation by Asst. FBI Director Andrew McCabe.

The FBI knew the content of the Flynn call with Sergey Kislyak because they were listening in. The FBI were intercepting those communications. So when Pence said no-one had any contact on January 15th, the FBI crew IMMEDIATELY knew they had an issue to exploit.

We see the evidence of the FBI knowing they had an issue to exploit, and being very nervous about doing it, in the text messages between Lisa Page and FBI Agent Peter Strzok who would end up doing the questioning of Flynn.

The day before the Flynn interview:

January 23, 2017, the day before the Flynn interview, Lisa Page says: “I can feel my heart beating harder, I’m so stressed about all the ways THIS has the potential to go fully off the rails.” Weird!

♦Strzok replies: “I know. I just talked with John, we’re getting together as soon as I get in to finish that write up for Andy (MCCABE) this morning.” Strzok agrees with Page about being stressed that “THIS” could go off the rails… (Strzok’s meeting w Flynn the next day)

[We’re not 100% sure who “John” is, it is highly likely to be Johnathan Moffa;  However, we know “Bill” is Bill Priestap, FBI Deputy Director in charge of Counterintelligence. And “Jen” is Jennifer Boone, FBI counterproliferation division]

So it’s the day before they interview Flynn.

Why would Page & Strzok be stressed about “THIS” potentially going off the rails?

The answer is simple: they knew the content of the phone call between Mike Flynn and Sergey Kislyak because they were listening in, and they were about to exploit the Pence statement to CBS. In essence they were admitting to monitoring Flynn, that’s why they were so nervous. They were planning and plotting with Andrew McCabe about how they were going to exploit the phone-tap and the difference in public statements by VP Mike Pence.

There’s a good possibility Flynn was honest but his honesty contradicted Pence’s national statement on CBS; and Flynn likely tried to dance through a needle without being overly critical of VP-elect Pence misspeaking. Remember, the alternative: if Flynn is brutally honest, the media now runs with a narrative about Vice-President Pence as a national liar.

Wednesday January 25th, 2017, – The Department of Justice, National Security Division, (at this timeframe Mary McCord was head of the DOJ-NSD) – received a detailed readout from the FBI agents who had interviewed Flynn. Yates said she felt “it was important to get this information to the White House as quickly as possible.”

Thursday January 26th – (morning) Yates called White House Counsel Don McGahn first thing that morning to tell him she had “a very sensitive matter” that had to be discussed face to face. McGahn agreed to meet with Yates later that afternoon.

Thursday January 26th – (afternoon) Sally Yates traveled to the White House along with a senior member of the DOJ’s National Security Division, “who was overseeing the matter”, that is Mary McCord. This was Yates’ first meeting with McGahn in his office, which also acts as a sensitive compartmented information facility (SCIF).

Yates said she began their meeting by laying out the media accounts and media statements made by Vice President Mike Pence and other high-ranking White House officials about General Flynn’s activity “that we knew not to be the truth.

According to Sally Yates testimony, she and Mary McCord presented all the information to McGahn so the White House could take action that they deemed appropriate. When asked by McGahn if Flynn should be fired, Yates answered, “that really wasn’t our call.”

Yates also said her decision to notify the White House counsel had been discussed “at great length.” According to her testimony: “Certainly leading up to our notification on the 26th, it was a topic of a whole lot of discussion in DOJ and with other members of the intel community.”

Friday January 27th – (morning) White House Counsel Don McGahn called Yates in the morning and asked if she could come back to his office.

Friday January 27th – (late afternoon) According to her testimony, Sally Yates returned to the White House late that afternoon. One of McGahn’s topics discussed was whether Flynn could be prosecuted for his conduct.

Specifically, according to Yates, one of the questions *McGahn asked Yates: “Why does it matter to DOJ if one White House official lies to another?” She explained that it “was a whole lot more than that,” and reviewed the same issues outlined the prior day.

[*If you consider that McGahn was trying to thread the needle between Mike Pence’s poorly worded response to CBS, and Michael Flynn’s FBI questioning that came after Pence’s statement, McGahn would see the no-win situation Flynn was in during that inquisition.]

McGahn then expressed his concern that taking any action might interfere with the FBI investigation of Flynn, and Yates said it wouldn’t: “It wouldn’t really be fair of us to tell you this and then expect you to sit on your hands,” Yates claims to have told McGahn.

McGahn asked if he could look at the underlying evidence of Flynn’s conduct, and she said they would work with the FBI over the weekend and “get back with him on Monday morning.”

Friday January 27th, 2017 – (evening) In what appears to be only a few hours later, President Trump is having dinner with FBI Director James Comey where President Trump asked if he was under investigation. Trump was, but to continue the auspices of the ongoing investigation, Comey lied and told him he wasn’t.

This why the issue of how the FBI agents write the 302 summary of the Flynn interview becomes such an important facet. We see that dynamic again playing out in the messages between Lisa Page and Peter Strzok; with Andrew McCabe providing the guidance.

Don’t forget, FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe was likely the person who leaked the content of the Mike Flynn phone call between Flynn and Russian Ambassador Kislyak to the Washington Post. A massive leak of highly classified information:

Within the case against Michael Flynn, prosecutor Brandon Van Grack later filed a cover letter attempting to explain the reason for the Flynn interview on January 24th, 2017, and a delay in the official filing of the interview notes (FD-302) on February 15th, 2017, and then another edit on May 31st, 2017.

To explain the FBI delay, Van Grack claimed the FD-302 report “inadvertently” had a header saying “DRAFT DOCUMENT/DELIBERATIVE MATERIAL” (screen grab)

What the special counsel appeared to be obfuscating was a process of deliberation within the investigative unit, headed by FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, surrounding the specific wording of the 302 report on the Flynn interview. Likely how best to word the FBI notes for maximum damage.

In late 2018 Prosecutor Brandon Van Grack was attempting to hide the length of the small group deliberations within the FBI. In hindsight it seems he did not want the court to know Andrew McCabe was involved in shaping how the Flynn-302 was written.

However, we know there was a deliberative process in place, seemingly all about how to best position the narrative, because we can see the deliberations in text messages between Lisa Page and Peter Strzok: See below (note the dates):

The text message conversation above is February 14th, 2017.

The Michael Flynn FD-302 was officially entered into the record on February 15th, 2017, per the report:

The interview took place on January 24th, 2017. The FD-302 was drafted on January 24th, and then later edited, shaped, and ultimately approved by McCabe, on February 14th, then entered into the official record on February 15th.

It was a deliberative document from the outset. Thanks to the Strzok/Page text messages we know the cover letter from the Special Counsel is misleading. The Feb 15th, 2017, date was the day after McCabe approved it (three weeks after the FBI interview).

May 17th, 2017, Robert Mueller was assigned as special Counsel. Then, the FD-302 report was re-entered on May 31st, 2017, removing the header; paving the way for Mueller’s team to use the content therein.

This level of overt corruption, and corrupt intent within the special counsel, is one of the more brutally obvious reasons why authorizing Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein should be regarded as participating in a political framing against the Trump White House.

The FBI interpretation of the Flynn interview was the way the DOJ and FBI could control the interview content; and specifically because the only recourse Flynn would have to contradict that FBI interpretation would be to compromise the Vice President… Flynn cannot openly challenge the structure of the narrative within the 302 outline.

See what happened?

Does it all make sense now?

Do you see why there are reports of the second FBI agent, Joe Pientka, saying he didn’t believe Flynn lied to them in the interview. Likely because Flynn didn’t lie; but the McCabe crew jumped on the opportunity to frame a lose/lose. Either Flynn accepts a version of the 302 report where he lied; or, Flynn has to take the position that Vice President Mike Pence lied to the nation in the CBS Face The Nation interview.

See how that went down?

However, after Weissmann and Mueller enter the picture, they need to force Flynn to admit to the construct of the 302 as presented. For that they need some leverage.

The original authorization for the appointment of Special Counsel Robert Mueller was May 17th, 2017. The recently released Weissmann report shows there were two additional scope memos authorizing specific targeting of the Mueller probe. The first scope memo was August 2nd, 2017, OUTLINED HERE, and is an important part of the puzzle that helps explain the corrupt original purpose of the special counsel.

The second scope memo was issued by Rod Rosenstein to Robert Mueller on October 20th, 2017. The transparent intent of the second scope memo was to provide Weissmann and Mueller with ammunition and authority to investigate specific targets, for specific purposes. One of those targets was General Michael Flynn’s son, Michael Flynn Jr.

As you review the highlighted portion below, found on pages 12 and 13 of the Weissmann report, read slowly and fully absorb the intent; the corruption is blood-boiling:

This second scope memo allowed Weissmann and Mueller to target tangentially related persons and entities bringing in Michael Cohen, Richard Gates, Roger Stone and Michael Flynn Jr. Additionally this memo established the authority to pursue “jointly undertaken activity“.

The four identified targets within the original July 2016 investigation, “Operation Crossfire Hurricane”, were George Papadopoulos, Michael Flynn, Paul Manafort and Carter Page. (See HPSCI report):

General Flynn was under investigation from the outset in mid-2016. The fraudulent FBI counterintelligence operation, established by CIA Director John Brennan, had Flynn as one of the early targets when Brennan handed the originating electronic communication “EC” to FBI Director James Comey on/around July 31st, 2016.

The investigation of General Flynn never stopped throughout 2016 and led to the second investigative issue of his phone call with Russian Ambassador Kislyak:

Page #12 October 20th, 2017, Scope Memo:

The first redaction listed under “personal privacy” is unknown. However, the second related redaction is a specific person, Michael Flynn Jr.

In combination with the October 2017 timing, the addition of Flynn Jr to the target list relates to the ongoing 2016/2017 investigation of his father for: (1) possible conspiracy with a foreign government; (2) unregistered lobbying; (3) materially false statements and omissions on 2017 FARA documents; and (4) lying to the FBI.

This October 20th, 2017, request from Weissmann and Mueller aligns with the time-frame were special counsel team lawyers Brandon L. Van Grack and Zainab N. Ahmad were prosecuting Michael Flynn and cornering him into a guilty plea.

Getting Rosenstein to authorize adding Mike Flynn Jr. to the target list (scope memo #2) meant the special counsel could threaten General Flynn with the indictment of his son as a co-conspirator tied to the Turkish lobbying issue (which they did) if he doesn’t agree to a plea. Remember: “jointly undertaken activity“.

Forcing a plea for ‘lying to investigators‘ by threatening prosecution for FARA violations was the identical strategy used against both George Papadopoulos and Michael Flynn.

The October 20th, 2017, expanded scope memo authorized Mueller to start demanding records, phones, electronic devices and other evidence from Mike Flynn Jr, and provided the leverage Weissmann wanted. After all, Mike Flynn Jr. had a four month old baby.

The amount of twisted pressure from this corrupt team of prosecutors is sickening. A month later, General Flynn was signing a plea agreement:

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336 Responses to Disappointing – Judge Sullivan Folds, Accepts Mueller Team Non-Production….

  1. citizen817 says:

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    • Beau Geste says:

      We need a petition to the White House to release the 302s and the recordings.

      Liked by 3 people

    • lftpm says:

      On the Strzok text to Page, composed the day before the Flynn interview, I am dubious that “John” was Jonathan Moffa. I would think Strzok knew Moffa well enough, and was smart enough to spell “Jon” properly. Strzok held a liaison post with CIA. Could “John” be John Brennan? He was in the thick of things, wasn’t he?

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  2. taxpayer here says:

    Outraged yet?!!!

    Past that point. Feeling numb.

    How is it the Flynn and Manafort cases get handed to an oblablabla judge?!!!!!!!!

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    • strateshooter says:

      taxpayer….I feel same way.
      When the judges are CROOKED too the Rule of Law is gone.
      We are watching the evisceration of the US Legal System in real time here.

      It just seems to me that white hats (even if they exist) do not have the power to overcome this corruption.

      And as for Flynns lawyers…shame on them. They should be demanding the release of all exculpatory info and the FBI should be jailed for obstruction of justice for not releasing it.

      Truly shocking though that clown, corrupt judges like Sullivan are in place. Frightening.

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    • lftpm says:

      Flynn’s judge, Emmet Sullivan was named to the D.C. Superior Court by Reagan, and the D.C. (federal) District Court by Clinton. Manafort’s judge, Amy Berman Jackson is the oblablabla judge.

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  3. Jeff Shapiro says:

    Special Counsel office is disbanded. Why cant Barr overrule?

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    • Firefly says:

      Because Sullivan caved to mueller prosecutors. Had Sullivan issued a show cause or demand it would have been reviewed by another DOJ person. Sullivan didn’t even ask for an in camera review.

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      • Dr.Jay says:

        >> Sullivan didn’t even ask for an in camera review.

        He asked for the evidence, the Mueller team declined to show the evidence.

        The Mueller team could have proposed in camera review, yet they didn’t.
        The judge does not need to ask for it, the prosecution is free to state how they want to show the evidence, including the option to show the judge, but not the defense (which should be illegal, but that is another matter).

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      • sat0422 says:

        Politics, race, or better yet, extortion? Take your pick.

        When a Judge is dirty, it is an offense to our Constitution and our sense of worth as a nation! Sullivan is disgusting to look at now. I once had an ounce of faith in him but now see him as a two-bit player.

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    • lftpm says:

      He can. Bear in mind that Mueller’s prosecutors were mostly career DOJ attorneys, who were already on the Flynn case from Comey and Rosenstein’s rein.

      So, these attorneys are still in the department, except for recently-departed Andrew Weissmann.

      I think Barr should assign a new set of prosecutors to review the Flynn case because it has been so badly tainted. But Barr has a lot on his plate, so perhaps the Flynn matter hasn’t caught his attention. Or maybe he is fully aware, and there is a game afoot.

      Judge Sullivan’s tirade against Flynn awhile back would suggest that something about Flynn’s Turkey dealings was more nefarious than mere common-as-dirt FARA lobbying-reporting violations.

      One commentator proposed that Flynn was pretending to be an ex-official who was cashing in like everybody else does, but who was actually doing undercover work to identify bad actors. Others say Flynn was an ordinary greedy swamp critter.

      Stay tuned…

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  4. Redhotrugmama says:

    Not surprised. Sadly not at all. I wish the average citizen truly understood how evil and corrupt our system is, especially the FBI. I don’t expect much to come from the declassification efforts either. When a federal judge bends over like this and potentially sentences a human being that may be innocent and allows prosecutors to get away without complying with his order our justice system is done. Over. Kaput.

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    • John says:

      Same here,not surprised at all.Same with Barr plenty of noise and so far nothing.Agree with you nothing will come from the declassification nothing will come from the IG report.More Kabuki.The justice system is kaput and so is the country.

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      • GenEarly says:

        MAGA will fail if the fundamental foundation of a free society is not reinstituted. The Equal and fair application of the Law to obtain Justice IS also the job of a prosecutor, and a judge.
        It’s Now or never for this country as constituted. It does depend on We the People, Repubs are not a deterrent to the deep state Tyranny either, just a different approach to raping the country of wealth and with it, Justice.

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    • lftpm says:

      J. Edgar Hoover called the FBI “The Seat of Government”. What he meant was the FBI’s enormous spying powers (even back then, e.g. see Martin Luther King’s sex life), enabled Hoover to blackmail politicians and other movers and shakers, so that they bent to his will. Congress took no action to term-limit the FBI Director until after J. Edgar was deceased. He was his own “third rail” of politics.

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  5. Disappointing? when the Expected arrives. Just another example of the Deep State’s MO, get use to them. Not Disappointed, Expected!

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    • John says:

      The deep state is deep,very deep.

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    • lftpm says:

      This may be different. People who have spent time with Trump have high respect for him. They say he asks probing questions, then when these are answered, he digs deeper. He listens acutely. He does this seemingly silly Twitter stuff, but this actually serves a shrewd purpose: he’s basically telling Americans what is going on.

      Trump did not hire Bill Barr to be his protective “wingman”. Trump hired Barr to get to the bottom of the Chicago Way criminality that took command of our intelligence system and illegally used it for self-interest-advancing heinous purposes.

      Barr accepted the challenge to help save the American Constitutional Republic. Or else he’s a dirty double-crosser, I just don’t think he is.

      Trump is a master at reading people, when he has the chance to. Early in his administration there were far too many appointments to be made to allow this. He was forced to take the recommendations of “establishment” Republicans like Reince Priebus and Mike Pence. In selecting Barr, Trump, aided by a trustworthy advisory group, including Jay Sekulow, Rudy Giuliani, and Joe DiGenova, performed his own vetting.

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      • Please don’t lump Vice President Pence in with the GOP Establishment. The Vice President is completely loyal and in total agreement with President Trump’s agenda and policies – 1000%. I read far too much of this about the Vice President on this site. He is NOT one of them, he’s one of us.

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    • JoAnn Leichliter says:

      This take is a very good illustration of the difference in perspective between, say, Sundance and a more left-leaning source. Which perspective is more correct? That’s above my pay grade.

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      • lftpm says:

        Judge Sullivan may have risen to the level of his incompetence. Or he may be a shuck-and-jive weasel. We can’t distinguish. He allowed the Ted Stevens prosecutors to mount a fraudulent case, and oversaw Stevens’ conviction. Then, AFTER Stevens narrowly lost his longtime Senate seat, Sullivan overturned his own order of conviction, essentially declaring Stevens innocent, and lambasted the prosecutors. But none of the prosecutors was ever punished for his/her misdeeds.

        Sullivan has the power to jail DOJ lawyers who fail to turn over his ordered transcripts and tapes, for contempt of court. He has the necessary security clearances to privately inspect this material. Instead, he rolls over.

        To me, it just doesn’t pass the smell test. But I’m a nobody, just a Trump-voting “deplorable”.

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    • GenEarly says:

      The chasm between Americans is far greater than differences between Russians and Americans, imo. This will not end well, the body politic has been poisoned beyond recovery. The Republic, which avoided the pitfalls of the current politic…..”Our Demoncrazy”, has been dead since the end of WW II.
      A Reset is coming, whether political, economic, cultural or a combination of all three, this society of today cannot continue in it’s present form. A rotten Feral behometh posing as a edifice of Liberty is a Lie to everyone, Left or Right or Independent or Disillusioned.

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  6. Vegas odds on Patriots vs Swamp played in Barry’s court?

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  7. Louisiana Tea Rose says:

    It is very possible this is really not about Flynn…..it might be ALL ABOUT PENCE.

    Not sure how to handle that, cuz ya can’t go anywhere with it. Just sayin’

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  8. Murray Smith says:

    lets just accept this as the new normal, Trump then leaks the financial records of all politicians in America, their contacts with foreign powers, their sexual habits etc, get it all out there, see who has the most to hide

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    • sat0422 says:

      The problem is that we have evolved into a nation that accepts all behavior as normal these days.
      I’m shocked that we even have trials against people guilty of rape and murder anymore even where there are 12 eyewitnesses available to testify.
      Yep, our justice system is gone……long gone.

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  9. Gucci says:

    Anyone that is surprised by this…never-mind. Drag it out, drag it out, drag it out, and drag it out some-more, then do what they were going to do all along-participate in the cover-up.

    All you need to know about the Cabal is condensed right here.

    I am moving to Panama-at least they are upfront about there corruption.

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  10. Dr.Jay says:

    The judge now has given the special counsel’s office (Brandon Van Grack), and the DC U.S. Attorney Jessie Liu, the rope they need to hang themselves.

    They can now: drop the case or continue as is, but they can no longer claim that they didn’t know. They must have reviewed the evidence that they have now refused to produce.

    Now would be the time to start leaking the original January F302 (it must exist, as the February one is clearly an edit, notice the header ‘deliberative document’ is never there on first save) and the actual transcript of the Flynn-Kyslyak call.

    The judge has now seen no evidence for the claim, except for a public statement by the head of the FBI (‘didn’t think that he lied’) and the guilty plea by the defense, who agreed to that plea and now stays silent for unknown reasons.

    So what will the judge do? He can continue and give a stiff sentence (but why would he), give a very weak sentence or toss the case. If the latter he’ll need to protect Flynn and his family from further prosecution. How would that work?
    What happens when the evidence surfaces later?

    The special counsel’s office just decided to fail to produce evidence for their case, when that should be easy and uncontested. They even failed to propose to do an in camera review of the evidence.

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    • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

      They can now: drop the case or continue as is, but they can no longer claim that they didn’t know. They must have reviewed the evidence that they have now refused to produce

      Great observation…..
      we’re exactly where we were in December….

      the State was recommending “a sentencing at the low end of the guidelines including NO incarceration” at all
      and the judge “accusing” Flynn of betraying his country.

      Will Sullivan go whole hog on Flynn or let him waltz out the front door?

      Is that Wagner or Strauss I’m hearing?

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  11. Zimbalistjunior says:

    This case has stunk from day one (then again so has every matter connected to 2016 election).
    Flynn has numerous defenses to avail himself of if he wished. Ie he could claim
    1) Flynn did not reveal every detail to FBI agents because he did not believe they had proper security clearance to hear the details. ( which they probably did not).
    2) Flynn did not reveal the details because he didn’t believe the details were material to the conversation between him and the agents. Assumedly, the agents had not given Flynn the reasons for the conversation. Assumedly, they did not discuss what details they were looking for. How was Flynn supposed to know whether a detail was material or not.

    Etc etc. there is no way a competent defense lawyer could not get Flynn acquitted on this garbage.

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    • Query says:

      Indeed.
      So what more threatening matters made him plead guilty, no jail time?
      Significant other matters are easily deduced.

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    • Dim Osmab says:

      “Flynn did not reveal every detail to FBI agents because he did not believe they had
      proper security clearance to hear the details”

      Also there is “need to know” standart, and fbi agents have nothing to know about flynn calls

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  12. Dr.Jay says:

    By the way: the judge orders that the government is not required to file on the public docket. Does this mean that they still may need to show it in camera?

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    • Dr.Jay says:

      I see now that Techno Frog had the same idea (still perusing my twitter feed):

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  13. JoAnn Leichliter says:

    Well, I suppose from one perspective it is nice to know that you can depend on something. In this case, it’s the fact that if you want justice, don’t look for it in this life. As least not from U.S. courts in the 21st Century.

    Of course, we have a “legal system” and not a “system of justice.” Unfortunately, the “legal” part isn’t working out especially well…

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  14. Bill says:

    Color me not surprised. Just another disheartening example in a long list that continues to destroy my faith in our republic. It’s Trump v World.

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  15. I’m not surprised that Sullivan backed down. No one in DC or the Judicial System dares to challenge these FBI plotters. They have the full backing of the CIA and NSA dirt gathering machines. All it takes is one phone call that mentions a prior misdeed or threat against a relative. Then they all fold like a cheap suit. That’s how the FBI got Flynn’s guilty plea in the first place.

    No one will EVER go to jail for Spygate or FISA abuses.

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    • lftpm says:

      You may be right. OTOH, Barr and Trump know that if nobody goes to jail, the organized criminals will do this again and again, until we have a hot civil war. i believe they want to prevent that.

      Most people forget, but only 5 people were arrested for trying to spy on the DNC campaign headquartersin 1972. Eventually 49 were convicted and jailed.

      This present scandal isn’t over yet. Not by a long shot.

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  16. USMCLt says:

    Pence owes Gen Flynn and Pres Trump, big time!!! He could have been given the Quayle Treatment, the method used by the Bush minions to destroy the political career of another promising Hoosier politician.

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  17. Rick says:

    “did any advisor or anybody in the Trump campaign have any contact with the Russians ***who were trying to meddle in the election?***

    MIKE PENCE: Of course not. And I think to suggest that is to give credence to some of these bizarre rumors that have swirled around the candidacy.”

    I don’t see how Mike Pence misspoke. Were there not already rumors of the Russians meddling in the campaign to help Trump? He did not deny a contact with a Russian. He denied that a campaign member had received assistance from Russia.

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  18. As I pointed out initially, it was a mistake to think Sullivan had wholesome motives… he’s a totally corrupt judge, partisan and anti-Trump ( as revealed shown in several decisions already )…his deranged conduct that forced a postponement of Flynn’s sentencing was convincing — he hated Flynn and wanted to add more charges to result in more time ……..its a mistake to look for “ white hats” …there aren’t any… if they are in an organization , they’ve agreed to the terms of staying there, which means protecting the organization

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  19. Rick says:

    I was very disappointed by Judge Sullivan, I had hoped he had more courage. Can’t AG Barr look at the evidence? Can’t he supervise and replace Van Grack and Jesse Lieu if he sees a problem?

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  20. Gary says:

    I guess the FBI framed their questions to Flynn in a way that the general felt a need to protect the VP-elect in some way. I think that Pence’s answer to a question with an allegation in it was appropriate. At the time the FBI hadn’t seen fit to inform the president-elect of their suspicions that people in his campaign had conspired with Russians, or anyone else, to influence the election. Any response other than “of course not” would’ve given the MSM reason to after Trump for trying to cover something up. You don’t squash a rumor by dancing around it.

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  21. askandgettruth says:

    Gen. Flynn’s only mistake was to try and save his family from financial ruin and to realize that this corrupt FBI and JUSTICE DEPT has too much of our money and has endless resources to FRAME YOU for not ratting on people. they tried this crap with DR. Corsi but thank god he took the up yours road and fought them and won. Gen flynn should sue the whole lot of them.laws need to change in which would allow these type of corrupt officials to face the full force of our laws, if not it will be business as usual.

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  22. Rick says:

    The threat to indict Flynn Jr. on FARA doesn’t add up because he did file a similar disclosure on the advice of his lawyer. Nope, I think if I were AG, I’d be looking for nsa evidence of Obama’s database that was alluded to by Maxine Waters for the possible source of some other blackmail material.

    The AG should slap a search warrant on all of Obama’s electronic devises. He should also slap it on the DNC and all of Obama’s former administration partisans for that database. Find the database, and you’ll find the trail to the contractors who were stealing this information over the past decade.

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    • PBR says:

      Al Obam’s records were sent to the former POTUS’ “digital” library in Chicago, making them “unavailable”.

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  23. Charlotte Powell Brooks says:

    Time for another donation to Judicial Watch.
    Sad, really, that orginizations like JD have to exist.

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  24. BobR says:

    Maybe a lawyer can explain why it was so expensive for Flynn to defend his position of innocence. Why didn’t he get a gov lawyer?

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  25. Beau Geste says:

    Speculation:
    The coup plotters planned to “first we fu*k Flynn, then we fu*k Trump”. To the extent that the IG horowitz and durham are investigating the coup behavior, the Flynn entrapment and attack are integral with the coup plot. 302s inconsistent with “lying”, and revised 302s, and inconsistency with the kysylyak conversation. If so, this should be part of the FISA IG report, and an evaluation of fraud on the FISC to get apparent FISAs on Flynn.

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    • PBR says:

      There was something very fishy about how Obama went after Petreaus for the classified info debacle. This was announced about 5pm the day of the 2012 election. Hmmmmm…

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  26. So they get away with setting up a highly decorated general who is a hero to this country? I can’t believe it!

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  27. I wish that Sundance would factor this into his analysis: Flynn said he did not consider the expulsion of the 35 Russians to be sanctions. See https://dailycaller.com/2017/02/14/exclusive-defiant-flynn-insists-he-crossed-no-lines-leakers-must-be-prosecuted/

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  28. The Judge’s actions and General Flynn’s lawyers’ in-actions are beyond my realm of comprehension. I just don’t understand it.

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  29. PBR says:

    “Over the weekend,” Bloomberg’s Eli Lake reports, Flynn “was instructed not to speak to the press when he was in the fight for his political life. His staff was not even allowed to review the transcripts of his call to the Russian ambassador.”

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  30. Gil Stonebarger says:

    sadly, I think it is time to realize NO ONE is going to be held accountable..so much for the big ugly

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  31. Jennifer says:

    It is shit like this that makes it so maddening to even pay attention to what is going on! Sundance, please write any and all suggestions about what we all could/should do to confront the corruption being rubbed in our noses. Personally, I’m at a breaking point. I feel like it should be action or avoidance at this point. First time commenter. Long time reader.

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    • Jennifer, we have to wait for this whole conspiracy and the avenging justice to play out. This is tough stuff…. we must withstand it all and stay strong. I get dejected and feel defeated, too. Take a break when you feel that way. We have to support President Trump, keep praying to our Lord…. if we lose…. at least we went down fighting.

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  32. MelH says:

    https://rightandfree.com/news/2019/06/04/mueller-strikes-out-media-reports-home-run Thisn link will probably have to be copied into your search engine, since Right&Free uses work from other sites, but it’s a fun read because it cites numbers that trash media to the MAX! And right now, MadCow is blackballed and CNN isn’t even in the top 15 rated channels, going broke! Remember that song, “Ain’t That a Shame”, my tears fall like rain.. I really wish a Prosecutor had been assigned by Barr to charge some of the media who slandered Trump with out and out lying.. Mostly i wish Mueller was charged with meddling in the 2018 elections.

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  33. “…did any advisor or anybody in the Trump campaign have any contact with the Russians who were trying to meddle in the election?”

    Looks to me like Pence answered Dickerson’s question correctly. No one in the Trump campaign was in contact with THE Russians who were trying to MEDDLE IN THE ELECTION. If the same question was posed to Flynn, then he would have answered correctly as well. I’d like to see how Strzok and Pientka worded their question.

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  34. Gary Lacey says:

    I wonder about Flynn’s guilty plea, was Fynn’s lawyer on the Mueller team?

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  35. Somebody's Gramma says:

    Random thoughts: I pray for Pence. I’m still on the fence about whether or not he is part of the swamp. Flynn will go down in history as a man of honor. Trying to be logical here and not lose my mind over the “habbenings”. McConnell has done well getting judges through, but if he balks on the Mexico tariffs, we’ll know for sure he’s a swamp creature. One thing that is happening, a very great thing, the general public is fully aware of what is going on now, thanks to Trump’s twitter and the thousands of digital soldiers (thank you Sundance!) who are blogging, passing around the memes, posting on FakeBook, and uploading to Youtube. It’s not just us Treepers. Regular Americans are watching and paying attention in between working and taking care of family, and the majority are fully done with the Mainstream Media/DC Corruption. We are not fooled by any of this. There are more people engaged in political thought now, than any time in my lifetime. Last random thoughts: we do expect people to go to jail over this. We do expect voter rolls to be cleaned up and our elections secured. We know we are in a social and political war to save our Republic. Let’s pray that it doesn’t come to a physical war (my new rifle is gorgeous, btw). Our patience is wearing thin though. I am looking forward to the #Declass because I’m expecting the timing to be superb – maximum impact. God bless you Treepers. Keep the Faith.

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  36. gueppebarre says:

    Anyone surprised by this revelation? Not me, or anyone else following this production at all…

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  37. boattailinjection says:

    Think about it, Sully just tipped his hand!

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