Robert Mueller Did Interview President Trump Regarding Obstruction Case…

With a larger portion of the U.S. electorate now beginning to realize there never was a Trump Russia-Collusion-Conspiracy case to begin with; and with people now realizing almost all of Mueller investigative time was spent gathering evidence for an ‘obstruction case’; and with new revelations from Andrew McCabe, John Dowd and Mueller officials overlayed on the previous Strzok/Page texts; we can now clearly reconcile a previous issue:

..The May 16, 2017, Mueller meeting with President Trump in the Oval Office.

There has been a great deal of flawed interpretation of the May 16th meeting between President Trump, Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein and Robert Mueller.  Some people even mistakenly used that meeting as a cornerstone for a claim that Mueller and Rosenstein were working to the benefit of President Trump.  However, if you overlay the new information, there is considerable evidence that interview was for the purpose of Mueller determining if he could achieve an ‘obstruction’ goal.  Here’s how…

FBI Director James Comey was fired on Tuesday May 9th, 2017.

According to his own admissions (NBC and CBS), Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe immediately began a criminal ‘obstruction’ investigation the next day, Wednesday May 10th; and he immediately enlisted Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein.

These McCabe statements line up with with text message conversations between FBI lawyer Lisa Page and FBI agent Peter Strzok – (same dates 5/9 and 5/10):

(text message link)

It now appears that important redaction is “POTUS” or “TRUMP”.  [Yes, this is evidence that some unknown DOJ officials redacted information from these texts that would have pointed directly to the intents of the DOJ and FBI. WARNING: Don’t get hung on it.]

The next day, Thursday May 11th, 2017, Andrew McCabe testifies to congress. With the Comey firing fresh in the headlines, Senator Marco Rubio asked McCabe: “has the dismissal of Mr. Comey in any way impeded, interrupted, stopped, or negatively impacted any of the work, any investigation, or any ongoing projects at the Federal Bureau of Investigation?”

McCabe responded: “So there has been no effort to impede our investigation to date. Quite simply put, sir, you cannot stop the men and women of the FBI from doing the right thing, protecting the American people and upholding the Constitution.”

However, again referencing his own admissions, on Friday May 12th McCabe met with DAG Rod Rosenstein to discuss the issues, referencing the criminal ‘obstruction’ case McCabe had opened just two days before.  According to McCabe:

… “[Rosenstein] asked for my thoughts about whether we needed a special counsel to oversee the Russia case. I said I thought it would help the investigation’s credibility. Later that day, I went to see Rosenstein again. This is the gist of what I said: I feel strongly that the investigation would be best served by having a special counsel.” (link)

Recap: Tuesday-Comey Fired; Wednesday-McCabe starts criminal ‘obstruction’ case; Thursday-McCabe testifies to congress “no effort to impede”; Friday-McCabe and Rosenstein discuss Special Counsel.

After the weekend, Monday May 15th, McCabe states he and Rosenstein conferred again about the Special Counsel approach. McCabe: “I brought the matter up with him again after the weekend.”

Now, overlaying what we know now that we did not know in 2018, to include the John Dowd interview and McCabe admissions, a very clear picture emerges.

On Tuesday May 16th, Rod Rosenstein takes Robert Mueller to the White House to talk with the target of the ‘obstruction’ criminal investigation, under the ruse of bringing Mueller in for a meeting about becoming FBI Director.  This meeting was quite literally advanced reconnaissance.

The next day, Wednesday May 17th, 2017, Rod Rosenstein and Andrew McCabe go to brief the congressional “Gang-of-Eight”: Paul Ryan, Nancy Pelosi, ¹Devin Nunes, Adam Schiff, Mitch McConnell, Chuck Schumer, Richard Burr and Mark Warner.

… […] “On the afternoon of May 17, Rosenstein and I sat at the end of a long conference table in a secure room in the basement of the Capitol. We were there to brief the so-called Gang of Eight—the majority and minority leaders of the House and Senate and the chairs and ranking members of the House and Senate Intelligence Committees. Rosenstein had, I knew, made a decision to appoint a special counsel in the Russia case.”

[…] “After reminding the committee of how the investigation began, I told them of additional steps we had taken. Then Rod took over and announced that he had appointed a special counsel to pursue the Russia investigation, and that the special counsel was Robert Mueller.” (link)

Immediately following this May 17, 2017, Go8 briefing, Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein notified the public of the special counsel appointment.

According to President Trump’s Attorney John Dowd, the White House was stunned by the decision. [Link] Coincidentally, AG Jeff Sessions was in the oval office for unrelated business when White House counsel Don McGahn came in and informed the group.  Jeff Sessions immediately offered his resignation, and Sessions’ chief-of-staff Jody Hunt went back to the Main Justice office to ask Rosenstein what the hell was going on.

Now, with hindsight and full understanding of exactly what the purposes and intents were for Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein to bring Robert Mueller to the White House, revisit this video from June 2017:


The DOJ (Rosenstein) and FBI (McCabe) activity in coordination with the Robert Mueller team was always about the obstruction case from day one; heck, from even before Robert Mueller was appointed.

The totality of all primary effort has always been to protect the ruse of the Russia investigation by throwing out nonsense Russian indictments and keeping Manafort, Flynn and Papadopoulos (the original spygate targets) under control…. while the focus was on building the obstruction case against President Trump.

It could not be any more clear than it is today.


It’s all about controlling the “narrative”.

This investigative ‘small group’ are the people inside Main Justice (DOJ) and FBI headquarters who redacted the Lisa Page and Peter Strzok text messages; removed messages and communication antithetical to their goals; kept key documents and information away from congress; stalled any effort to expose the unlawful aspects of “SpyGate’ and the fraudulent foundation behind the Carter Page FISA application; and undermined any adverse discoveries in the leak investigations (James Wolfe) writ large.

This investigative small group didn’t change when Mueller arrived, they just retooled the focus of their effort based on new leadership and new objectives. Those who created the Trump-Russia collusion/conspiracy case of 2016, evolved into creating the Trump obstructing justice case of 2017, 2018 and 2019.

Everything Mueller and Rosenstein were doing in late 2017 and throughout 2018 was intended to drag-out the Russia conspiracy narrative as long as possible, even though there was no actual Trump-Russia investigation taking place.

It was always the “obstruction” investigation that could lead to the desired result by Mueller’s team of taking down President Trump through evidence that would help Pelosi and Nadler achieve impeachment .  The “obstruction case” was the entirety of the case they were trying to make from May 2017 through to March 2019.

[¹] Now we know why House Speaker Paul Ryan moved to sideline Devin Nunes under the cloud of an ethics investigation.

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555 Responses to Robert Mueller Did Interview President Trump Regarding Obstruction Case…

  1. Darren says:

    “More destructive” and no one in MSM thinks is it the DoJs role to be destructive? It clearly is political destruction they are talking about. Why would the SC be allowed to engage in politics? They didn’t charge this should just be over. Barrs summary doesn’t matter.

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    • jeff montanye says:

      of course the summary matters. and the full report. and all the near treasonous or seditious behavior that preceded it, now being revealed. it all has been an enormous voter education project that undermines the legacy media and their allies in the government, particularly the rinos such as mccain, ryan, rubio, etc. not to mention a first draft of history. while the Q and related narratives that said trust the plan and that sessions and perhaps even mueller were working to help trump succeed were not literally true, the effect of the long, tortuous mueller investigation and associated operations under the self-neutered sessions, plus perhaps some shrewd caution on trump’s part, have given him a very strong position in the time remaining before the election during which a full explication and, one hopes, litigation of crossfire hurricane may play out before the eyeballs and in the brains of the still very numerous sheeple.

      once again, thank you sundance for your unique synthesizing analysis of such superb precision.

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    • Jederman says:

      Barr and ROSENSTIEN’S summary.


    • BigMamaTEA says:

      Sd…{blowing kiss} BEAUTIFUL ! Another missing piece. {I bet with the proper font, I could type the word TRUMP in those redactions!!!!!!)



    • Dr.No76 says:

      If the obstruction case was the goal, then it must be premised upon Comey’s firing. The Strzok texts suggest that McCabe and team were anxious to’open the obstruction case immediately after the comey firing. And that McCabe did. But I still come down to asking the question of SD’s analysis. How’s does one explain Rosie being part of the obstruction set up in bringing Mueller in to in essence do an interview of Trump to measure surreptitiously the possibility of an obstruction case, when it was Rosie himself who recommended Comey’s firing? It makes no sense. Nor do I think that Trump’s statement with the Russians about the “Russian thing” has any legs. He clearly indicated that it was a comment about Comey’s refusal , after telling Trump three times that he was not under investigation, to have the FBI make a public statement to the same point. So why would Rosie be in on an obstruction case over Comey’s firing when Rosie himself authored the manifest justification for the firing. I have had my doubts about the intentions and actions of Rosenstein, but I think it is more likely that he named Mueller to take the Russia investigation out of a very bad actors, McCabe’s dirty hands. I do not think that McCabe’s self serving statements that Rosenstein was ‘in on’ the obstruction investigation at face value. McCabe is a dead duck liar and can be expected to try and widen the scope of blame beyond himself. Mush would be aided by the declassification of all of it, the origins of the Russia investigation as well as the opening of the obstruction investigation.


      • inspectorudy says:

        I don’t believe that the obstruction case was the initial goal. How could Mueller maintain the investigation for two years just for obstruction? He must have seen in the first year that the collusion charge was going nowhere so then he began to branch out for other charges. Dershowitz has already said that Comey’s firing was well within the purview of Trump’s executive powers and it simply did not matter why he fired him. My belief is that Mueller was hoping to find state law violations and tax issues that he could refer to the SDONY for prosecution after Trump leaves office. I think Mueller knew within months of starting the probe that there was no collusion and that he was just digging for anything to get Trump.

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  2. Yes, it was a setup, as the Cabal was scrambling, after Comey was unexpectedly fired. Comey was the “point man”. Mueller was the “Comey surrogate” Everyone knew Mueller could not serve again as FBI director. They still thought Trump was a rube and would fall for the intimidation tactic.

    But, what you have missed, is that it was not a fact finding or clandestine “spy ruse”, that was just a narrative for the public eye, hence the “meeting to discuss Mueller as FBI director line” parroted by the MSM.

    No, my friend, this was the same as the Comey Feb 14 and Jan 27th meetings. It was a THREAT. Call it intimidation, call it a hint, but make no mistake it was NOT to gather info. It was to relay the message “resign or ELSE” I call it BLACKMAIL. It was the same message Comey delivered TWICE.

    Think, why did Comey need to “brief: the President alone on Jan 27th about the “dossier”? Hell, it WASN’T secret, BuzzFeed had just published it on Jan 10th. Why would Rosenstein after recommending Comey BE fired try an obstruction angle? He KNEW he was responsible for the action of Comey being fired. Rosenstein had to also know he would have to recuse if that angle was pursued. Why would he bring Mueller in for an “interview? he wouldn’t, it was to show Trump his next adversary, the formidable Bob Mueller, so Trump had better resign now OR ELSE. They mis-judged exactly who they were dealing with.

    Your own research lays it out. Just like with Comey, Trump told them to sit and rotate. So, then they had to follow through on their threat. Hence the back and fourth meetings, and all of Strzok’s consternation. This whole thing was designed as a THREAT to get Trump to RESIGN or be investigated. They all thought that they would SURELY find something to make him go or provide a grounds for impeachment. Hence the “he will be gone in 6 months or less, NO criminal investigation or impeachment could happen that fast. They wanted Trump to RESIGN. They found NOTHING, and then had an oh shit moment! We are so f’d with what we did, lets just keep looking.

    Now after Whitaker neutered Rosenstein, and Bar ENDED Mueller, you see the NEW plan…same as the old plan…lets keep looking for a crime to prosecute, lets bluster, lets threaten. They KNOW that can’t Impeach Trump on the Russian bullshit, they need a crime, ANY crime, but they can’t find ANY. This time instead of Rosenstein , Mueller, and the DOJ, it is Nadler, Pelosi, and Schiff doing the looking and threats.

    The definition of insanity is doing the same things over and over again inspecting different results. Same game, new players. One problem, this time, with NO open DOJ investigation with which to use as an “obstruction” narrative hammer against Trump, he will DESTROY them all when he declasses EVERYTHING.

    Then mom and pop America can see what You and I know, and have researched, this was a coup de tat and Treason. They are ALL going to jail. There will be no clemency, there will be no deals, there will be no MERCY. They know it now, they know it is too late to stop, they are praying for a miracle that will never come. the are quite simply F * C K ED.

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    • solomonpal says:

      I’ll believe it when I see it. Our side gets carried away with hope beyond hope just like the other side. Yes we know the truth but…

      Liked by 1 person

    • jeff montanye says:

      it could be both the threat you describe and the fall back obstruction case development that sundance describes. but i dearly hope your (redacted) conclusion is accurate. the republic so needs it.

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      • Oh, they would have taken an obstruction charge, if Trump were stupid enough to give it to them, he wasn’t. If that was their hope, then they would be even more stupid than I thought, and that would be pretty stupid. No, I stick with my premise, they wanted Trump to quit because of threats to get him or his family or business. He told them to kick rocks, and we are where we are. There is MORE to it, but then Id have to give away my whole plot line.

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    • snellvillebob says:

      And that is why they want his tax filings. They intend on going after everyone he has done business with or associated with for the last 20 years. They intend on going after every business, partnership or profitable enterprise to bankrupt him and his family. This is not only to drive President Trump out of office but also to prevent another outsider from ever running for president again. Scorched earth policy can burn both ways.

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      • Correct in a way, they want his taxes to use against him in an impeachment ploy (looking for a crime) There is one big flaw in their plan, Trump has a FLEET of lawyers and accountants to do his taxes, as he has been under CONSTANT audit by BOTH the state of NY, city of NY and Feds for almost 15 years.

        If there was ANYTHING criminal to be had, we would have already known. They are hoping for a hail Mary, and it fell out of bounds. The only thing they might gain is the same leftist socialists that hate all the rich anyway, would not like his deductions taken.

        Mom and pop tax payer HATE the IRS, and the taxes they have to pay, we will be SYMPATHETIC to Trump for the harassment he takes. The Cabal Dems don’t pay taxes, ergo they are too stupid to realize the boomerang from that angle.

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        • Moray Watson says:

          Yes. US 1040’s are signed on ‘penalty of perjury’. Did you see the height of Trump’s return that he signed in 2015 ? It was at least 4 feet of paper ! In that stack are all sorts of financial disclosures that are filed with the return that have nothing to do with calculating income or taxes thereon. Missing any of those disclosures can result in financial penalties and/or jail time.

          You could get 99.999% of that 4 foot stack of paper right and still be subject to ‘penalty of perjury’.


          • That’s why he has a FLEET of tax lawyers and accountants. And, Perjury requires INTENT. A simple mistake is NOT perjury, it is an omission. Especially on a return that size. It is why corporations always amend their returns. If the IRS were to find an “irregularity”, it gets an audit. If the error can be proved to be clerical or an omission without intent, no crime. There may still be a penalty, but it is NOT criminal. Cohen committed FRAUD and hid millions in income. He got caught, and away he goes. If Cohen’s accountant had the paper work and forgot to add it in, and it could have been proven, Cohen would not have been FUBAR, he would have paid a STEEP fine, and been subject to a forensic audit and then allowed to “amend” his taxes. Happens all the time.


      • PBR says:

        yes, just as the Dims promised.


      • Louis Genevie says:

        Totally right, that’s the Dems plan for sure. It’s just a re-do of Muhler without the DOJ teeth behind the process.


      • jx says:

        A political party wants information obtained by the government, information to which a political party does not have access… such as grand jury information and investigatory information that only the government could obtain. They want this information for their own political ends.

        The Democrats’ lawlessness is intolerable. They need to be destroyed as a political force before they destroy the country.

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    • Orygun says:

      I personally hope Paul Ryan rots in jail. The worst kind of traitor is the one that stabs you in the back and works from the shadows. That puts mittens right in there with him and the R folks in Utah for putting mittens in there for damage control.
      The R party leaders in that state are not our friends it seems but I could say the same for my state.

      The crimes are pretty much etched in stone as far as the leaders and it just remains to be seen who all the bit players are. This rogue government has been ruling over us for a long time with coercion and murder when that doesn’t work. The corrupt judges give it a stamp of legitimacy and they go on their merry way. It really needs to end now.

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      • “Mittens”, that’s good. I like “Ramen”.


      • Ryan is DEFINITELY not on our side. He IS complicit. He was a gang of 8 member, he KNOWS what was happening and did NOTHING to stop it. The ONLY safe Gang of 8 member is Nunes, he tried to stop it. This time, they are ALL going to pay. The never thought they would, but now they know it is OVER for them, hence the panic we see. Panicked people make even more stupid and rash decisions. They are probably furiously committing MORE cries as we speak, they are caught in a web and loop of lies, corruption, and crimes. There is only one ending for them, JUSTICE.

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    • Will Hunt says:

      Regardless of whether there are charges brought against these felons – this is what happened – we know it and they know it. Hopefully, they’l be held to account. If not hopefully, they’ll never rest easily for the rest of their miserable, treasonous lives.

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      • They thought they would get away with it, they always had before. They do not know what to do now, they know they are caught, and they know we know. They know also that their MSM friends can’t save them this time because they are in on it TOO.

        They are scared shitless, and the fun hasn’t even started yet. Wait till the first wave of indictments hit. Those that don’t flee, and don’t kill themselves, we be lining up to sing on bigger fish like an audition for America’s got talent. The rolling and backstabbing that happens then will be biblical. There will be a max exodus, a rash of suicides, and a rash of “mysterious” deaths before this is all done. They have lost not only power, but control as well. They have NEVER before lost BOTH. This is HISTORY.

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        • cali says:

          @prognosticatasaurusrex: ^^^^^^^^^This!

          We must always remember that president Trump was fully informed before he entered the white house. He already knew they were spying on him and his campaign while planting Carter PAGE, PapaD and Manafort into the Trump campaign.
          General Flynn was framed as being compromised by a Russian honeypot after attending a dinner in his honor in Russia.
          None other than Stefan Halper and the rest of the UK spooks were setting up the framing of Mike Flynn to eliminate the threat he posed after his 30+ year career as DIA spook. Flynn knows ‘where all the bodies are buried”.
          Sadly the invitation of a student and Russian/British citizens to that same dinner was the set-up to enable the framing of Mike Flynn.
          This women’s life has been destroyed although she now is speaking out exposing all those involved in the spy operation and muh Russia collusion.

          @Sundance: That was not only this small group but rather a international spy and espionage operation carried by our own deep state and the main instigator in all of this: The UK and their spy apparatus. They needed all the individual targeted to be silenced and they did just that: Flynn, PapaD, Carter Page, Manafort and Jeff Sessions whom they immediately sidelined with bogus accusations of having a conversation with a Russian ambassador as though that is a crime.

          But you must also see that as that is exactly what our white hats needed to happen to roll them all up in the end – all of them here in our country and abroad. That is much deeper than the stupid McCabe, Comey, Rosenstein and others. What do they all have in common? They all suffer from delusion of grandeur seeing themselves above and beyond the law believing nobody can stop them because after all they are the little gods whom we need to keep us safe. What bullshit!

          To make a long story short: Hussein and Brennan also wired and bugged the white house so when president Trump tweeted after Comey made the false claims after his firings: “I hope there are no tapes” about the conversations Comey claimed to have taken place and what was actually said. Comey’s memos after all were never seen by the president but Mueller did advise Comey before his testimony to the committee. That itself was telling.
          The ‘old guard’ directed by their masters in the UK had to dance the dance to keep this going. After all the president should never learn that our own so-called treacherous allies in the 5EYES all worked in tandem to destroy, frame and remove the president.

          They know quite well what would happen if they were exposed being such traitors who can’t be trusted to be allies. Always remember we invaded Iraq after a secret dossier by the UK and not because as Bush claimed due to WMD or 9/11. The Rothschilds goated us into that war as they always have with WWi, WWII, Vietnam and other chaos they created. Who would have thought that our own deep state in collusion with the architects of the one world order would murder thousands of our citizens on 9/11, OKC by blowing up the towers and Bldg 7 while stealing all the gold stored in Bldg 7?
          Who was the FBI director? Who was president? All the same foul and enemies within.

          The roll-up has started: Julian Assange is in the safety of our Marines after being extracted by our Night Owl.

          These traitors know that their justice is approaching because they follow @Sundance’s, Solomon’s, Nunes, Anons and other patriotic reseachers who figured these traitors out and what they did. Why do you think they shadow ban us everywhere on social media?
          Why do you think they demand the military vet owned 8chan board to be shut down? All for a LARP? Really?

          So yes – they are scared shitless and if they would taken just a ‘lil time out of the hate they would familiarized themselves with the “Art of War by Sun Tzu” – a strategy applied to a ‘t’ by president Trump and his team. They never fail to fall into the trap laid for them.

          President Trump is a patient man and it is comforting but I tell you he too has limits. If it weren’t for the enormity of these networks of enemies within connected with those abroad and what’s at stake He would have dropped the hammer a long time ago.
          “A love of a father for his kids can never be fully underestimated” = it remained a concern for president Trump to this day!

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          • Great minds Cali. Only a few things we differ on. Flynn was setup and had to go as did Sessions, Flynn was NOT setup by Halper or the Russian chick, that is chaff. He WAS setup and surveilled by Brennan, Strzok, Yates, and McCabe. the UK is HEAVILY involved in Steele, Mifsud, Halper, Tawil, and others. But, do not forget Australia and Alexander Downer. Remember, all the deep state Cabal in the DOJ and FBI only had ONE boss. I think you will LOVE my book. The Five Eyes betrayal is the reason that nothing has of yet been declassified. What they did could be considered and act of WAR.


            • MagaMia says:

              @prognosticatasaurusrex: “Flynn was setup and had to go as did Sessions, Flynn was NOT setup by Halper or the Russian chick, that is chaff.”

              Interested in your thoughts on why Sessions had to go.


    • PoxOnTheDnc says:

      Sometimes doing the same thing over and over finally get the the results the “insane” are looking for. Just look at how many times California tried to give drivers licences to illegals, eventually the bill passed.

      I’m not saying what they are doing to Trump is right, however if he doesn’t fight back 2X harder they will eventually catch him in some chargeable offense somehow somewhere.

      The best defense is a strong offense – Trump needs to remove all these bastards form the playing field ASAP.


      • LOL Have you not been paying attention? The field is being cleared. The entire DOJ leadership has been REMOVED. Trump is fighting back, now it is time to turn the field so that new crops can be planted. When Trump finally takes the gloves completely off, and releases the Kracken, THEN the game begins. All Trump did was let the cabal punch themselves out (rope a dope) now its time for som thunder and lightning.

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    • Jack Burton says:

      Brilliant post.


  3. Blind no longer says:

    Rush talked about this yesterday on his radio show and recognized the Conservative Treehouse. He was blown away by the 40!!! FBI agents assigned to the Special Counsel. That is a huge number of agents…I’m sure to get everything they could not only PDJT but his family and everybody associated with him for leverage.
    Our government is so corrupt now, it’s hard to think how it ever gets repaired. I really don’t know if it can. Draining the Swamp would be a full time job for President Trump if he focused on nothing else. Power, Control and money are the only thing people in Washington care about. The People, are just a fly in their 5’clock martinis.

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    • 2zymos says:

      “…just a fly in their 5’cllock martinis.”
      …until you stop paying the “bar tab” with all the risks thereby taken
      Or alternatively, have “security” throw them out of “the bar”.

      Its not “going to happen” by votes at the county or city council or any voting alone.

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      • Retired USMC says:

        THIS^^^^^. When the ballot box fails, which it has for YEARS…it’s time to open the next box.

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        • Charles James says:

          At the present time, President Trump has things under his control in most areas. Should these treasonous scum assassinate the President, harm him all bets off. We are probably the last free nation on this planet with still the right to bear arms. If it becomes time to bury our arms it is far past time to dig them up.


      • Louis Genevie says:

        You mean you don’t want our tax money to pay for “reparations” to the descendants of slaves? That’s the road Dems want to take us down.

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  4. digleigh says:

    OH, the webs they weave when they go to deceive (Para…..?) Power corrupts and absolute power, corrupts absolutely….(?) I suggest the first bird , better start screeching NOW…………


  5. curtmilr says:

    Forty FBI agents, 19 prosecutors, and almost two years are NOT needed for a single obstruction case!

    They were using the Russia/Obstruction case “investigations” as cover for what was really being investigated. That remains to be revealed.

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    • jeff montanye says:

      isn’t the obstruction case, in its fullest, the hope that by investigating everything and everyone associated with donald trump, the special counsel could succeed in getting the president to fire the special counsel and the top layer of the doj, fbi, cia, nsa, etc. etc. etc. and then congress could somehow get enough of an impeachment case to convict or perhaps force a resignation? the forty (thieves?) are to give the threat and the reality of a full scale investigation of trump’s dirty laundry which turned out to be surprisingly clean and also, unfortunately for the opposition, whose inspection has removed, one imagines, any real surprises for the upcoming election. i’m sure the resistance would have preferred we meet stormy daniels around halloween, 2020.


    • George 1 says:

      What if the 40 FBI agents and the 19 lawyers were mostly engaged in tracking down and destroying any evidence that could be used in court against the top tear of coup conspirators?

      There was obstruction all right. It was done by Rosenstein, Mueller and their henchmen.

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      • Moonset says:

        G1: 1000 likes

        that has always been my opinion also — get rid of all the evidence from Flynn, Manafort, Cohen etal by using 13 of HRC’S lawyers.

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  6. Beau Geste says:

    Was this Rosenstein effectively “wearing a wire” with form 302 phony reports, like he discussed to try to get the Cabinet to remove PDJT by the 25th amendment? Looks like it…

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  7. Doug Amos says:

    From a distance, it is amazing how easily the MSM gave up; Russia like it never happened. On to Obama’s actor diver or the border, anything, just to get away from Spygate. Is this not a signal that their beloved Obama is in big trouble?

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  8. MagaMia says:

    After reading this post and the comments, it feels like I’ve moved from black and white vision to technicolor.

    Can anyone comment on what was achieved by McCabe in his opening a criminal investigation on Sessions? Sessions was already sidelined by his recusal, and IRIC, was quickly exonerated. Reportedly, Sessions did not know he was under criminal investigation at the time he fired McCabe.

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  9. Beau Geste says:

    The “deep state” turned the DoJ, the FBI and the FISA Court into the evil, reviled British political secret “Star Chamber” that our Constitution was intended to prevent.

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  10. dawg says:

    This is quite a revelation. “So simple, yet so brilliant.” I read it last night and have since read every single comment. Its all making sense now. This simple realization, along with the fact that Nellie Ohr approached Glenn Simpson, and not vice versa, are two things that have really helped complete the circle for me.

    Thank you sundance for the enlightenment.

    I am now more firmly convinced than ever, that, considering the forces aligned against DJT during the election, and their efforts since, that PTs election and survival since then is due to nothing less than divine intervention.


  11. Will Hunt says:

    I guess I’m missing something obvious but how does the FBI/DOJ build an obstruction case when the FBI (DAG) recommended the termination? Isn’t the obvious response that PDT was acting on the advice of his dag??? How does this make sense? Trump used the advice as a subterfuge for an ulterior motive???


  12. railer says:

    I believe Rosenstein bringing Mueller to the Oval Office to discuss the FBI Director position with Trump was not a cover story. I believe the Swamp and Deep State needed a reliable Deep State FBI Director in that job to cover their previous lawbreaking re Muh Russia. Comey is a really dumb and unreliable guy imo, and getting rid of him and replacing him with Mueller serves Deep State interests superbly. The Trump counterintelligence program would then continue apace, and Mueller eventually strikes gold somehow, they hope. That was Plan A.

    Plan B was appointing Mueller as Special Counsel “investigating” Muh Russia. Here, he soaks up all data and information, smothers the IG and seeks ways to nail Trump. Same as Plan A, but working from another seat.

    Trump looked at Plans A and B, saw that a weakling like Wray at FBI might even serve his purposes, help isolate McCabe et al, and went with Plan B. Here then, he might be able to isolate Mueller against his and the WH lawyers, even if 40 FBI agents were sent over to help Mueller. Trump chose right. Firing Mueller from FBI would have been impossible, while Mueller at SC office was a discrete element unbound to main body Justice and with no real administrative power within the Swamp bureaucracy.

    Rosenstein was a willing facilitator in all this.

    Trump chose Plan B, took the slings and arrows and outwaited them all. Now he’s done with Mueller FOREVER. Good choice, Trump.

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    • Ned Zeppelin says:

      I like your Plan A/B theory. Either way it was a winner for Mueller. Please understand RR did not “reach out” to Bob Mueller. He was involved in the cabal in the background the while time. Mark it.


      • railer says:

        I agree. He signed FISA warrant applications. All those signers are part of the cabal by definition. They have likely committed a felony accordingly.


  13. 6x47 says:

    I have said before, and repeat here again: The small group was doomed on Election Night 2016; their position was untenable. Everything they did after was aimed at staving off the inevitable discovery of their corrupt dealings until they could get more political cover. With the Democrats taking the House in 2018, that goal was achieved. The cavalry has arrived. HOWEVER – President Trump is not a pushover.

    I hope that in Barr he has an attorney general willing to fight against the corruption that has hollowed out the DOJ and FBI like a cancer. One who will not willingly tie both hands behind his back and allow the dirty cops and corrupt politicians to ride roughshod over him as he doggedly sticks to “muh principles.”

    Time will tell.



    Thank you for providing the timeline and fuller context to that visit. When all the pieces are put together like this it fully makes sense. I was operating on the theory that Rat Rosenberg was looking to embed mulehead into the Trump orbit.


  15. Laramie Evan says:

    Well, take this one step further.

    It was always about obstruction, which is to say, it was always about finding a way to mount a coup. Sounds exaggerated, but how else do you describe an effort by the administrative bureaucracy to displace a sitting president? That’s what a palace coup is.

    If we can agree on that, then it raises a larger question: We have a thoroughly corrupt Justice Department aided by corrupt and often inept intel services, who in turn are aided by a thoroughly corrupt media.

    How do we fix it?

    “Referrals” for criminal prosecution? Referrals to whom? The Justice Department? Most of these same evildoers have been entrenched in these same positions for years and years, as have their underlings. Do you think they’re going to hire good and honest people to replace them?

    What do we do with this thoroughly corrupt and broken system?


  16. Conversefive says:

    I’ve always wondered about this text passage between Strzok and Page on May 16 and I assumed it was referring to Rosenstein but for what I didn’t know and now I do:

    Strzok: he’s either a dead man walking and/or a hero. Doing so only helps him, doesn’t hurt him.

    Page: history is watching. He needs to. To redeem his soul first and foremost.

    This is in re Rosenstein’s Comey firing letter he needs to redeem his soul by recording DJT in this mueller meeting.


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