Two Examples of Mexican Government Officials Blackmailing U.S. by Threatening Flood of South American Immigrants…

With the migrant march from South America, mostly Hondurans, gaining more media attention, it is also important to revisit last year’s threats -from Mexican officials- which preceded their current year complicity.

♦  In August of 2017 President Trump and Commerce Secretary Ross were discussing their trade efforts within NAFTA and renegotiation with Mexico/Canada on a trilateral basis.  However, the U.S. administration said if it doesn’t work, they’d scrap the 3-way NAFTA deal and go one-on-one with individual bilateral agreements.  In response, Mexican Economic Minister Ildefonso Guajardo threatened to flood the U.S. with South American illegal aliens, criminals and gang members as leverage:

MEXICO CITY (Reuters) – Mexico could pull back on cooperation in migration and security matters if the United States walks away from talks to renegotiate the North American Free Trade Agreement, the Mexican economy minister said in a newspaper report published on Thursday.

“If they do not treat [us] well commercially, they should not expect us to treat them well by containing the migration that comes from other regions of the world and crosses Mexico,” Guajardo said. “Or they should not expect to be treated well in collaboration with security issues in the region.” (LINK)

However, Mexican Minister Ildefonso Guarjardo’s threat was mild compared to a threat in January 2017, when another Mexican official promised to flood the U.S. with South American drugs and gang violence:

♦ In a stunning segment on Fareed Zakaria’s CNN broadcast January 29th, 2017, Mexico’s former foreign minister, Jorge Castaneda, states the Mexican government was willing to counter U.S. President Donald Trump policy by unleashing drug cartels upon the U.S. border.

Watch, and more importantly LISTEN, to his words at 02:10 below (Prompted):

 

This was the most politically explosive admission by the Mexican government in the past decade.  Even Fareed Zakaria realized what was being threatened and quickly attempted to redirect the conversation.

Mr. Castaneda was openly admitting a willingness to promote drug trafficking.  Additionally, Jorge Castaneda is so proud of the threat, he posted a video of the discussion on his own YouTube page.

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354 Responses to Two Examples of Mexican Government Officials Blackmailing U.S. by Threatening Flood of South American Immigrants…

  1. TreeperInTraining says:

    Mexico seems to forget who is in office…and better yet the newly “woke for realz” folks who number more than 65,000,000 that voted that madman in.

    We are a sovereign nation. A nation of laws. We once again relish our Superpower status and are not embarrassed by that privilege (nor any other “privilege” that we all worked hard for, regardless of our sex, color or creed).

    We are no longer the world’s doormat. We will no longer cower in fear when someone threatens us or mass virtue signals. We won’t shut up if you call us unfeeling, racist, hater or “stoopid”. We won’t give away our jobs, our wealth or our status to anyone other than our own citizens who need our help, so they can be great again.

    The flyover country…the great unwashed. We’re awake, and we give a damn. If we have our way, America will be great again…forever.

    Capice? Comprende?

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    • piper567 says:

      TreeperInTraining…you are coming right along…sounds pretty Treeper-ish to me.

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      • Molly Pitcher says:

        Treeper in Training is all heart and makes me proud to know her!
        She’s right. Millions of us voted proud and we’re willing to stand firm . MAGA

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        • David A says:

          Stand Firm. Yes 10 percent, yet many of the 1200 marchers are human victims, turned to tools, ” useful idiots”
          Suggested response- POTUS speech, relating to rule of law – military enforced ” you shall not pass – lecture on how they are tools, victims being used, and 2k per individual – sorry you were taken advantage of – go home, make YOUR nation better – we support that – settle there or in Mexico where they welcomed you.

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    • bluezebraangel says:

      Can we blame Mexico for our lack of border control? Can we blame Mexico that illegals know they will not be turned away and will be taken care of and released with good medical care and public schooling? It is OUR policies that lead to mass migration.

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      • flova says:

        Yes, sort of like President Trump saying during the campaign that getting screwed on trade was our fault. He didn’t blame China or S Korea or the countries who take us to the cleaners.

        So unless these illegal criminals are met at the border, if they make it there, with military force we really have a huge problem. Does the executive branch have the authority to send in federal troops to stop a coordinated invasion? Yes or no? This is an attack complete with embedded Buzzfeed reporters.

        The Left wants PT to stand down and let them through thinking it will demoralize his base. If he makes a stand and sends in the military it will mobilize half the country to rally around him like we did in November 2016. What will PT do?

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      • kroesus61 says:

        we cannot blame MX for them crossing our border BUT we CAN blame them for crossing THEIR border and then the length of their country with their complicity

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      • charles dansreau says:

        We can absolutely blame Mexico for enabling this caravan. instead of being stopped at mexico’s southern border they are allowed in and allowed to go to the US. Last year they were issuing special temporary passports to illegals as long as they were going to the US. And let’s face it mexico encourages it’s own citizens to become illegals in the US so that they may send money back to family. It is nothing more than economic war. If we adopted mexico’s immigration policies which are much stricter than our own we not have an illegal alien problem.

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    • POTUS should consider using Navy Seabees (16,000 strong) to build The Wall? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seabee

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      • Harold Gear says:

        Train and use the imprisioned illegal alien workers for 89 days, terminate. Recruit new ones from prisons and start the cycle over. Benefits: food, shelter, freedom to return to country of origin with no return to US. When the wall is so tall they have fear of falling, the test has been passed. Electrify the base. Stock the moats with piranha. Patrol the border with cannibalistic aborigines. Move all, land, air and sea military live fire training exercises and ranges along all of our physical land borders.

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  2. Pam says:

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    • All Too Much says:

      Follow the thread. The caravan people are disputing Flores claim of postponement.

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    • wheatietoo says:

      More recent tweets…Organizer says they aren’t stopping.

      .
      Their sense of entitlement is just stunning.

      They claim to have the “right” to come here.
      This is bullsh*t.
      They are in Mexico, which is where they should be requesting ‘asylum’.

      They are asylum-shopping.
      But that’s not how it works.

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      • Alison says:

        Enumerate where that ‘right’ comes from. Mexico is bending over backwards to provide safe, comfortable passage. Let Mexico provide asylum.

        USA has right – overwhelming right to say no to illegals & invaders.

        We might agree to compassion & let them keep their obviousl clean, furnished new coats and baby strollers when we turn them back.

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        • wheatietoo says:

          Did you see their List of Demands?

          It’s in their ‘Press Release’.
          I posted it in the earlier threads about this.

          It’s really stunning in its outrageousness.
          They claim to be ‘citizens’ of any country they happen to be in.

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          • Which exposes the groups who are behind this “caravan.” They are “global citizens.” So transparent, yet so many people fall for this BS!

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            • charles dansreau says:

              Another thing is the standard press pictures of women and children. I do not trust the MSM. i do not think any of them have a right to demand anything of the US, however the press plays on heartstrings of Americans. When DACA was first announced we had some “children” attending high school who were apparently middle aged with graying hair. How many of this caravan are MS13, military age males, etc. This caravan is probably not as desparate and helpless as depicted.

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              • All American Snowflake says:

                You can leave the “probably” out of the last sentence. Actually they don’t look desperate to me at all. Look like they are on a hike to the beach or something.

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        • DSP2 says:

          Action speaks louder than tweets, President Trump. Order YOUR military to the border now!!!!

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        • Nah. Confiscate their coats.

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        • Longknife 21 says:

          I just caught some numbers on Breitbart: ” since the beginning of Fiscal Year 2018, about 13,186 unaccompanied minors have been resettled across the country. California, Florida, New York, and Texas have taken the most unaccompanied minors – about 45 percent this Fiscal Year.”
          So since October they have released another 13K UACs, predominantly male, many if not most gang-bangers (or soon to be), on the innocent and unsuspecting citzenry and in our unprotected schools.
          Think about that, while you decide. “what we oughta DO?”

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          • Dee says:

            Since these leeches think they have the upper hand, because the left has given them that, it sound like Gatlin guns to mow down every one of the that steps over the border would cure the problem.

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          • Longknife 21 says:

            Thanks, Dee. You give an opening for another Factoid:
            “Background checks for gun sales shattered a record in March…The previous record for March was 2,523,265 background checks in 2016, but FBI numbers show there were 2,767,699 background checks in March 2018.”
            Between the Boss Hogg hysteria, finding out Nicolas Cruz was a known whacko & “professional School Shooter”, and the coming ‘Invasion’ of mostly ‘military aged males’ (re: potential gang-bangers) have spiked Gun Sales ‘to the Moon’ again.
            LOL! Boss Hogg is even beating Obama as “Gun Salesman of the Month” for March. If it continues into April, he will have to share “this honor” with the “Mass Attack of Criminal Invaders”.
            As a semi-serious “gun-nut”, I can tell you these numbers are huge! Especially for the worst Off Season for gun-sales. And another Factoid : since Carry Permit Holders have been through a stringent vetting (equal or possibly closer than FFL Gun Dealers) they don’t have to go through the NICS check, only show their Carry Permit and the Dealer write the # on the 4473 form. So, I have no figures to back it up, but Serious Gun-nuts and people that buy guns as short-term investments, probably boost those numbers by 10-20%. You can buy multiple guns on one NICS check.
            Freak out Libtards! Boss Hogg and the Criminal Invaders are Making America Rearm Again! MARA! to go with your MAGA! ROFLMAO!

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        • All American Snowflake says:

          Keep their coats.

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      • G3 says:

        If they are fleeing- aren’t they supposed to request asylum from the first country they reach?

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        • wheatietoo says:

          Yes.
          That’s exactly how it works.

          These people are trying to write their ‘own’ version of International Law.

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          • Longknife 21 says:

            The Obamunists have been doing it since 2009. Don’t enforce any law you don’t like. Have Activist Judges “create Case Law by ‘Legal’ Opinion”. If it is not Challenged in Court (and the Lib Activists are expert at keeping “Legal Challenges” from ever making TO a Court that can overturn bad decision! That’s why we have “Anchor Babies”, and why the “natural born Citizen” issue against Obama NEVER made it to a Court that could give Subpoena Power to the Plaintiffs! Obama’s records are still SEALED!

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      • Esperanza says:

        The Westerners promoting this are enacting a modern version of slavery. 95% of women are raped going through Mexico. Just like historical Islamic slavery, where women were either sex slaves or domestic and sex slaves. And I don’t know the death rate, but I’m guessing it’s high. Currently running at 5% in Europe. They will then arrive here and work for a pittance and live in a Cali favela. Owing thousands of dollars to gangs of drug dealers. As a woman, maybe you could aspire to be an M13 guy’s moll?

        On from your post Wheatie, a true conversation I witnessed. A young naturalised French woman, from the Congo, in a short lived – you’re kidding- relationship with a Frenchman, who was sitting next to her. She first discussed the French benefits system, child benefit, housing, paid holidays etc., she could have added health care, unemployment benefit, minimum wage etc. then, “French people are racist. They don’t give enough benefits to asylum seekers, this is why my sister is Swedish, they pay better.”

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      • GrantsLounge says:

        This ‘caravan’ is the Left’s latest PR stunt, designed to create a confrontation at the border that they can jinn-up as being the equivalent of the latest Israeli – Palestinian clashes we saw over the weekend. And, thus brand Trump as the most inhumane dangerous person on earth. Just a gut feeling that the media will try and paint this as a similiar crisis caused by the murderous Trump. They are that evil and deranged.

        Stand firm, indeed!

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        • Janie M. says:

          And…GrantsLounge, soros’ is, in all likelihood, financing it – didn’t he recently dump over $15 billion into various NGOs to fund his nefarious “one-world” wet dream?

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      • cali says:

        I admit that angers me to no end because I immigrated to this country and followed the process required every step of the way. It was a long process but it was all worth it!

        This attitude thinking they have any rights is astounding and appalling at the same time. What rights is afforded to squatters because that is what they are.
        They already receiving legal assistance while in Mexico telling them the best way to get in is either the claim of asylum and if that does not work they will enter illegally making them squatters in a country that did not assign them the right to be here!

        While Mexico guards its own border using their military to prevent any squatters from entering they facilitate these 1,500 the route as the prerequisite to arrive at our border. It’s the disrespect the Mexican government has for a country that tolerates millions of Mexican squatters. Hypocrites but hey it worked in the past why not continue with their con.
        This can also be viewed as an invasion into this country come hell or high water.

        I count on president Trump to nip this in the butt once and for all. The Republican governor of Texas is sending the National Guard to the border doing his part stopping this nonsense. It has to start somewhere.
        I’m sure all the do-gooders on the left will come out in force like the ACLU and rest of the anti-American outfits working to help these squatters.
        The problem will start if at of them are admitted based on their strategy claiming asylum only then to miss every court date avoiding deportation.

        We have to draw the line somewhere and now is the time to do just that to deter further or future attempts for thousands or millions more to use the same tactics and fraud.

        Enough is enough – no more squatters!

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      • glissmeister says:

        Entitlement? This attack on our border by enemies foreign and domestic intends to force a collapse of law to unlawfully invade our border; something in part being masterminded and facilitated as a conspiracy against the people and government of the United States.

        If the current EO rubric does not support it, Trump needs to issue an emergency executive order to declare this for what it is and start rounding up the conspirators involved in the planning, funding, operations and promotion of this sedition; seize the assets of the individuals and institutions involved and incarcerate the bad actors as enemy combatants.

        Smash the sedition. Restore the rule of law. Bring to account the seditious 5th Column forces and their institutions, unions and foundation counterparts and the assets of same.

        Guantanamo properly awaits them.

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    • Longknife 21 says:

      Continuing today. “Some” may stay in Mexico, “Some” may get aid. But most will still try to break into America.
      I’m waiting for the Canadians & Trudeau to start whining about our resistance to “refugees”, blah, blah blah. Then put ’em all on trains and send them straight to Ottawa!
      That works for me, toss in all of the illegals ICE can catch on the way.
      No mas!

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  3. alliwantissometruth says:

    This is getting f***ing ridiculous

    Besides our President & a few allies trying to protect our country & us, our Congress & Senate is infested with absolute miscreants looking out for nothing but their interests & leaving our country totally vulnerable

    Wide open borders. Drugs, illegal aliens, terrorists, anybody & everybody just waltzing into our country with impunity

    Failed, two bit third world sh*thole countries threatening us & allowing hordes of aliens to move unfettered through their countries in order to facilitate the invasion of ours

    Sanctuary towns, cities & States, where lawless politicians & officials openly disregard & outright dismiss our laws while putting American citizens at risk

    Like I said, f***ing ridiculous

    It’s got to end & it’s got to end now

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    • Rhoda R says:

      Asymmetric warfare. Mexico knows that it cannot defeat us militarily or economically so they are pulling a creepy form of asymmetric warfare on us. I will be interesting to see how Pres. Trump responds.

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      • noswamp says:

        Trump will find out that the caravan is still on its way(even if its weaker), and he will pull out of NAFTA so fast your head will spin. That is how Pres. Trump will respond.

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    • mari says:

      It never hurt to try. Keep contacting your Representatives and Senators here: https://www.usa.gov/elected-officials

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    • Jedi9 says:

      How does it end? What outside the box solutions has been advocated for and being offered in order to prepare for this invasion? What are the estimated numbers in transit heading to the US Border? What is their ETA?

      It seems to me that if this many people can assemble a march in the thousands with organised impetus, why can’t Americans who are in opposition of this invasion do the same? You think talking about it is a solution ? Or is it a necessary means to bring attention, awareness to other Americans who may feel compelled to organise and assemble in order to be heard? So far, I have not seen anything to suggest conservatives are willing to return the favour, except be content that our military, LEO, and 1st responders will take care of it for them. If such a thing did happened where ordinary average citizens marched in protest of this gross display of challenging a nations sovereignty , well that in of itself would be way more powerful than what any government promising something other than lip service can do! Remember JFK’s words! ( “Ask not what your country can do for you but…….”)

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      • Because, for the most part, Americans are hard at work at jobs and taking care of their families.

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        • Jedi9 says:

          Well sure, but that won’t matter if you no longer have country to live in, whereas you become a slave to pay for these invaders! It goes both ways! You think the original Patriots did not have families to take care of when the British were invading? Perspective! Apathy is not going to win back nor defend capably your county!

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          • Oh, don’t get me wrong – I agree. But far too many US citizens are blind to what is really going on within our own government. Still too many who simply listen to the drivel of the MSM, including my own Mother. SMH

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            • Jedi9 says:

              That is why we need to take up the mantle of advocacy against media, and educate people so they can be awaken to become active participants in their own lives again! Too many zombies has created the discourse we are currently dealing with as a nation!

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            • noswamp says:

              Funny though, we organized mentally to vote Trump in. Those amongst us that can, must do something peaceful to fight against this. Pay attention to M. Cernovich, Alex Jones, Stone, Jerome Corsi(Harvard guy with balls of steel), and those that I can’t name out there on the tip of the spear . Those are the guys and gals that will throw their support behind whatever you want to do that is peaceful and that will work!

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      • sledhead406 says:

        I agree that we need to think outside the box.

        The problem is these people marching through Mexico are not doing it for free. The officials that allow it are not doing it for free, and the leftists domestically are not out there screaming for free. All of these people get out of bed in the morning and go to work; marching, protesting, screaming- creating nothing of value yet not going to bed hungry.

        On the flip side- I cannot go stand at the border with like minded individuals to ensure they don’t take one step in. I have employees, people that depend on me being right here creating value every day. Many of them think the same way and know they cannot just leave everything to stop this little paid PR BS.

        It is the usual Left using the hard working virtues of American Conservatives against us. We simply have no time to go assemble and march to be heard. We must do something, yes. As you say, out of the box thinking is where it is at. Marching like loonie lefties is not the answer. CNN headlines of American counter-march: NEO NAZI uprising!

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        • Richard Whitney says:

          Outside the box, and beyond the border. Go into Chihuahua, Coahuila Nuevo Leone and Sonora, and tell Mexico these places are occupied. Establish martial law. Let Mexico understand the consequences of their provocation. Hunt the organizers of this crime in Mexico (and in the United States) and declare on-the-spot death sentences for any Mexican national involved in drugs.
          The Mexicans of European descent are racists who send the native Mexicans north of the border as a social welfare program, that is, have the United States pay for their welfare and have those illegals send back $millions. That has to end.

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        • Jedi9 says:

          I see your point, but that is exactly the reason why the left will chip away until they win, and working conservatives like you lose, because you are chained to responsibility, and no fault of your own, it’s just the dynamics that is being taken advantage of by the the leftist loonies as you so aptly referr to them! If no one is willing to make a stand, then you already lost the fight! It’s just the way it is in the progress of evolution within the political Paradigm!

          We will see what happens, if PDJT or Abbott can implement effective measures to stop this hoard of despots wanting to invade! It is after all why you pay Taxes right? Hoping that your Government can do their job?

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  4. Alison says:

    We don’t negotiate with terrorists & invaders. I hope President Trump does NOT tie NAFTA to this for negotiation strategy.

    Dump NAFTA, period.

    We will prevail on closing our borders one way or another. Our very sovereignty depends on it.

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    • dallasdan says:

      I agree, completely. However, the President is on his own to make it happen; Congress will continue its resistance. Regarding bringing Mexico to heel, economic punishment is the President’s most effective tool.

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    • Jedi9 says:

      Yeah I agree! It seems to me that if the Marxist candidate wins the Mexican elections, there will no longer be an option to negotiate with Mexico within the framework of NAFTA! In other words they are (Mexico) pretty much undermining their own interests by promoting and sowing the seeds of Their negative corruption by laying it bare for all of the world to see! Tom Clancy predicted that Mexico will become a failed state and it appears they well on that path of self destructing by gambling away the only opportunity they had left to bargain with!

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      • noswamp says:

        For those that follow Mexican history. I opine(probably wrong) that the decline began the day they took guns from the ordinary people. Even Pancho Villa was murdered by those relatives of the people he killed. That would never happen today because the people are disarmed in Mexico.

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  5. citizen817 says:

    Poking a hornets nest (Trump Economic Team) with threats of alien invasion…
    This will not end well for Mexico.
    This is now a matter of National Security.

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    • Mongoose says:

      Mexico is acting like a petulant two year old who won’t be given an ice cream cone! Throwing a tantrum. Well, the parents are awake and in charge and the child will be put to bed without dinner. Then said child can such their thumb as hard as they want.

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    • talker2u says:

      It always has been a matter of national security.

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    • dallasdan says:

      The threats of an alien invasion and unimpeded drug trafficking across our border would, IMO, qualify as acts of war if they were to happen with the encouragement of the Mexican government. As already noted, they are definitely very significant national security issues.

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      • Orygun says:

        If Congress had a pair when the Mexican officials said they would unleash drugs and criminals they should have passed legislation that would make these actions tantamount to declaring war on US citizens by threatening their safety.

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    • Jan says:

      This is a trial run on bringing millions of people from South America to the US, just like Europe. Had OVomit & Hillary not interfered with Egypt, Syria, Libya, Yemen, etc., you wouldn’t have had millions of Muslim migrating into Europe & changing Europe into 3rd world countries. Now illegals know all they have to do is get across the border into the US and then catch & release starts. This will encourage millions more to come up thru Mexico because Mexico will help them to get across the border. 80% of the people in this caravan are young males, perfect age to join the gangs. Mexico threatening to push drugs into the US is the final straw to any relationship with Mexico. Start taxing the remittances that go back to Mexico. It’s the 1st or 2nd source of revenue for Mexico. Cut off foreign aid, end NAFTA & impose tariffs AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, BUILD THE WALL!!!

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      • Irisheyes says:

        You would have had the EU muslim invasion, even without American interference in the ME. The PTB were simply looking for an excuse, as it’s part of their NWO plan to dumb down and homogenize the more advanced Western civilizations.

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      • Melanie says:

        Ever Been To Central America? The Majority Of Locals Are Of Mayan Decent.
        There Are A Lot Of Very Tall Mayans In That Caravan. Check Out The Videos.
        Where Are THEY Coming From?

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        • Longknife 21 says:

          Excellent Point! But even recognizing that is “RACIST!” The “Latinos” (mostly Spanish & other European descent) and the Mestizos (mixed Spanish & Indio) have been exploiting the Indios for centuries. And of the “Indios” the more “Nortenios” look down on the Mayans worse than anyone but possibly the “Mosquito Indios”.
          But we nasty old Gringos are the “RACISTS!” for wanting to have borders and not giving Welfare to the world.
          And by Marx, that’s RACIST!

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  6. wheatietoo says:

    Doesn’t look like this is over yet…the ‘caravan’ Organizers are not giving up.

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  7. andi lee says:

    Of note, Joaquín Guzman, “El Chapo”, trial starts April 14.
    Tx GOP Ted Cruz is sponsoring a bill, The El Chapo Act – $14B asset forfeiture to pay for the wall. (Maybe, being a foreigner is reason existing asset forfeiture doesn’t apply in El Chapo case.)

    While interesting, a thread from Thomas Wichter, staging the scene of his capture, a play by play, translating video footage on how the Mexican Navy military *accidently* captured El Chapo, while looking for El Chapo’s #1 guy, the money guy in a home raid.

    In mean time, Gov Abb❤tt has summoned our Texas Natinal Guard to the southern border to welcome any, lucky-not-so-lucky, Guatemalans.

    Of note, relating Mexico’s notorious corruption, jail officials were involved in El Chapo’s escape, & possibly, his 1st escape, too, given the elaborate tunnel system.

    Did you know Guzman has a fleet of submarines? Was surprised to learn this.

    They must be really high-tech, escaping U.S., international radar, sonar, etc., waters. /sarc.

    Puzzling, El Chapo was initially given a public defender.
    In Dec of 2017, new counsel claimed, not enough payment received to effectuate a fair defense with mountains of gov evidence to go through. Also, a request to postpone trial date to Sept/Oct. Haven’t found an update to request as yet.

    I’m not surprised at all by any Mexican official pubically threatening illegal, criminal activity. It is the way of mexican business. Shake-downs and murders. (Speaking of which, USCIS announced a new pilot program for Canadian VISA holders. That is the border & agency, to watch, in my opinion. Remember, Trudeau told U.S. banned muslims, Come, welcome to Canada, in 2017)

    Submarines noted here:

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  8. The Devilbat says:

    I am most worried about the caravan slobs making it to the Californian border. The Marxists there will welcome them with both arms. We seriously need to send Federal troops into the PRC (Peoples Republic Of California) to make sure that it does not happen.

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    • wheatietoo says:

      This so-called “caravan” is currently on the East side of Mexico.

      It is a long way to the Western side…and the California border.
      To get there, they have to cross a big, unforgiving desert area…and it would be suicidal to try to ‘walk’ that whole distance.

      To get to California, they will need a lot of Help…and vehicles.
      Or planes.

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      • armie says:

        They announced early on their goal was the Texas border. They’re more interested in confrontation than accommodation.

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      • Chris Four says:

        Not if they get help. Find the weakest point in the border and cross in mass, women and children at the front.

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        • wheatietoo says:

          That is probably their plan.
          Unless they split them up and stage multiple penetrations of the border at different points.

          This is being organized and facilitated by DNC operatives.
          I have no doubt.

          I think our President knows this…and this is why he mentioned the Dems & DACA, tying them to this.

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        • svenwg says:

          Aim above the children’s heads. Women today do not qualify for special treatment at their own bequest.

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      • Notmeagain says:

        They also will have to go through territory our State Dept. has warned against, which is controlled by cartels abetted by corrupt officials. I’m predicting these migrants won’t be robbed and murdered, they will be aided and used to assist the Mexican criminals.

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  9. Beverly says:

    This, and the Chinese tariffs, are COUNTERATTACKS. These bozos are figuring they can push America around like they’ve been doing for the last 30 years, since Ronaldus Magnus was president. But a new Sheriff is in town, boys.

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  10. littlequilterkitty says:

    Please, can someone tell me this: when did Mexico commence deciding who is allowed to cross our border to enter the US? This is insane and should immediately be addressed by Congress! Where are our representatives, and what are they doing to stop this madness? If these caravans are allowed and encouraged by the Mexican government, this can be considered no less than an act of war!

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  11. littlequilterkitty says:

    Please, can someone tell me this: when did Mexico commence deciding who is allowed to cross our border to enter the US? This is insane and should immediately be addressed by Congress! Where are our representatives, and what are they doing to stop this madness? If these caravans are allowed and encouraged by the Mexican government, this can be considered no less than an act of war!

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  12. wheatietoo says:

    In case you haven’t seen it yet…this is the Press Release that lists their Demands:

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    • andi lee says:

      Wow, wheatie! Thank you for posting that. Their arrogance matches our Congress’ attitude.

      Liked by 6 people

      • wheatietoo says:

        Yeah, it’s stunning, isn’t it.

        And since when do “refugees” put out a Press Release?

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        • andi lee says:

          This political asylum seeker did:

          Didn’t age well, either. 😂

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        • Remington..... says:

          The last thing we need is this barbarian invasion on our soil. Last time we had a major incursion like this it was followed by an outbreak of TB and whooping cough. Just a side benefit, I guess.

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          • wheatietoo says:

            And other ‘mystery diseases’ too, that doctors here had never seen before.

            But it was largely hushed up, during the O-regime.

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            • Cuppa Covfefe says:

              Yep. Here in Europe, thanks to the Trojan Camel(s) filled with refauxgees from the Middle East and Africa, we are seeing diseases and parasites (not to mention barbaric violence, “honor” killings, stabbings, rapes, etc.) not seen in years, or even CENTURIES, in some cases. And that’s not even considering the genetic and other problems caused by the Moslem practice of inbreeding (consanguineous procreation)…

              The medical profession here is ill-trained and ill-equipped (not to mention understaffed) to deal with this influx of human and inhuman parasites. And when they go for treatment, they often attack staff at the medical facilities in attempts to get treatment before anyone else (and without documents, etc.).

              Some (if not all) of those “Central Americans” are probably not from there at all. Middle Easterners can easily pass for South Americans, as can determined (embedded) terrorists…

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              • Longknife 21 says:

                Your Rape-u-gees are generally even worse than ours. Bless God we have The Second Amendment and Carry Permits in Southern and Midwestern States, so at least we, and our women, have a “fighting chance”. In the last few years there has been a huge “up-tick” in women gun-buyers. Libs wonder why? DUH…!!.
                God created men equal, but Samuel Colt made it so.

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        • Mongoose says:

          Yes, a PR ladened with commie speak like collective, struggle, solidarity and such. Smacks mightily of “the” community organizer” himself.

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      • Dixie says:

        It also matches the arrogance of DACA with their demands while protesting and disrupting progress in our streets. Send them all home. Congress too.

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  13. wheatietoo says:

    .
    .
    This is mostly all military-age men, in this so-called ‘caravan’.

    .
    This photo here, is more revealing than the other staged pictures of the crowd:


    .
    Hmm…I wonder how many of these guys are MS-13 members?

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    • andi lee says:

      That last photo may be doctored, Wheatie.
      Dude on far right, in white peddle-pushers (?) has a face growing out of his neck but look at all the turkish-looking noses!

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      • wheatietoo says:

        I don’t think it’s ‘doctored’, andi…I’ve seen it tweeted about by those who are supportive of this invasion.

        In other crowd photos, I have noticed others who are “turkish-looking” too.

        Their ‘press release’ states that they are from “different nations, religions”.
        We have no way of knowing how many of these people are muslims.

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      • Charlotte says:

        To me quite a few of them dont look Hispanic. They look MUSLIM.Lots of beards.
        Refugees my a$$
        Guy in white pants has brand new shoes.
        I just hope the lefty churches go all into get these guys into the US.
        Remember when Obama flew all those illegal unaccompanied minors all over the US to different “church welfare orgs”?

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        • G. Combs says:

          Last two comments got the boot by Word Unimpressed (not placed in mod.)
          Just remember Hezbollah has been in South America for at least a decade. I won’t elaborate this time.

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  14. Bobby Alley says:

    Some of Mexico’s threats, if carried through, could be grounds for military intervention against Mexico.

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  15. wheatietoo says:

    Hey, I like this…”Non-Consensual Immigration”.

    That’s exactly what it is!

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  16. WesternWhere says:

    How much longer are we supposed to ignore the fact that Mexico is a failed state?
    A corrupt, gang ridden, drug trafficking circus of idiots.
    We’ve gone beyond any kind of sane boundaries.
    This has to stop.

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  17. jello333 says:

    Maybe Mexico is headed toward a civil war. Even though we mostly hear about only the bad people in (and coming here from) Mexico, I gotta believe there are still a whole lot of decent people there. And I gotta believe that they are about sick and tired of their scummy “leaders”, and especially how the drug cartels are destroying their country. Oh, and do they really support just letting random “Central American refugees” just stroll around/through their country?

    I don’t know. Are there still enough decent, proud, BRAVE Mexicans that’ll stand up and take matters into their own hands?

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    • wheatietoo says:

      I dunno, Jello…they’ve been told that We are the ‘reason’ why they are poor.
      That we “stole their lands”.

      Their scummy leaders have been demagogue-ing against us for so long, that I don’t hold out much hope for ‘decent Mexicans’ having an accurate picture of the truth.

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      • Esperanza says:

        My ex definitely believes that.

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      • Cuppa Covfefe says:

        IIRC, most of those states only “belonged” to Mexico for one year, if at all. Before that, they were territories of Spain (and Russia, and probably England).

        They should get their own “house” in order before lusting after anyone else’s. And they need to realize they lost at least TWO wars over land to the USA, and SOLD a great deal of land as well.

        Seems they want to rewrite history, and scam off of folks who actually WORKED for what they have. Typical liberalistas… Just like the “reparations” idiots, and, of course, Hill-the-BEAST. Y’all LOST, deal with it!

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    • dallasdan says:

      No.

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    • Jenny R. says:

      I know some very good, decent Mexicans — they fully admit to their country’s problems. They are also completely demoralized.
      The reason for this is, as they point out — the Mexican people refuse to do ANYTHING to fix the problem. It isn’t one particular group, there are good people who want to get rid of the corruption from all ethnic/social/geographic groups in that country, but they are weighed down by the number of people in their same groups that could care less and/or are on the take.
      And the repercussions of pitching a fit about this could be lethal. So, what do you do?
      A lot of them are trying to get into immigrate — legally. They see that their compatriots could care less about saving the country, so why should they stick their necks out?

      This is not a Mexico thing or a Latino thing — look at northwestern Europe, look at Canada, heck look at what they are trying to accomplish in the U.S.
      Tell me it doesn’t work — this horde is a communist ploy; for that is what they are — this is historical; this is an old game….divide and conquer.

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    • Madison Grant says:

      The problem is (and this is going to make Treepers cringe) sometimes when the good and decent people are in the minority, it takes a heavy hand to straighten a country out. Some will disagree, but Pinochet had to disappear a few Marxists to get a grip on Chile. Mexico needs a fellow like the guy in the Phillipines right now, but if they voted him in, the Soros brigade would be squawking for the ‘human rights’ of the baddies being cleared from the room.

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    • Longknife 21 says:

      How can they have a Revolution? There is like one gun store in the whole country, and it is on a military base. If you are not part of the Govt, Police, or Military, it almost takes an Act of Congress to buy any firearm.
      God Bless our Founders for our 2nd Amendment or it could happen here, too.

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      • jello333 says:

        Wow, not that I didn’t believe you, but I assumed you were at least using a little hyperbole, especially the bit about only one gun store. But NO, you’re right! Unbelievable. And while it’s entirely possible to buy a gun for your home, you’d better make 100% sure you never take it outside for any reason. And a LOT of hoops to jump through in order to buy the gun in the first place. Crazy, and yeah, it makes the 2nd Am look even better from where we’re sitting. So you’re probably right… people thinking of engaging in civil war or revolution would be hard pressed to come up with enough firepower to be taken seriously. Unless, of course, the military would take the side of the good guys. Somehow I don’t see that happening, at least not with the hooks the cartels have into everything.

        Oh, and your comment about our Founders thankfully including the 2nd Am? Well, looks like the Mexican constitution was originally pretty similar… but it was CHANGED over the years, heavily watered down. So THAT is what we need to watch out for here. It’s fine that it was put in our Constitution to begin with, but it looks like we’re gonna have to fight hard to make sure it STAYS there.

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  18. mari says:

    The US needs to send American troops into Mexico and not let those people even get close to our border. This is an act of war and it should be handled accordingly. If we give the communist Democrats an inch they will take a mile. Lawmakers need to take swift decisive action.

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    • Mk10108 says:

      We’re not going to kill women and children. Trump will box theMexican government into a corner.

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      • svenwg says:

        The children can be spared, but why the women? They are there for the same reason as the men and have relied on the West’s total respect for women as well as our wish to protect women to advance their agenda to destroy our culture for far to long.

        Women have spent decades protesting that they deserve the right to be treated equally to men, now is the time to stand up for their principles!

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      • G. Combs says:

        “…We’re not going to kill women and children….”

        We do not need to.

        Economic options.
        First kill NAFTA with this move by Mexico NAFTA should now be off the table.
        State of emergency and CLOSE the border. Just one border crossing has 6,000 trucks cross in a day. 😈
        TAX or even stop remittances to Mexico.

        Millitary options.
        We have SPY satellites. Use them

        Troops dropped in to spacific sites can use any of these non-lethal devices:

        The Long Range Acoustic Device (LRAD) is an acoustic hailing device developed by LRAD Corporation to send messages and warning tones over longer distances or at higher volume than normal loudspeakers. the manufacture says’LRAD systems broadcast a near infinite variety of tones and predator calls to safely deter wildlife at distances in excess of 3,000 meters and ensure against habituation.”
        It can be used to project commands over extremely long distances. This can be followed by noises designed to make people get as far away from the sound as quickly as they can. Not only can LRAD cause severe headaches, they can also cause permanent hearing loss.

        The Dazer Laser emits a green light that can temporarily blind and make the target feel disoriented, confused, and nauseous. It’s also extremely easy to use.

        The Active Denial System is a heat ray. It makes you feel an intense heat that causes you to feel like you are standing in front of a furnace.

        A Taser Shotgun with a range of 100 feet. Rubber bullets or even the old standby shotguns full of rock salt.

        Water cannons complete with hard to remove dye. Or the israeli version — The “Skunk” Gun or combine both for an ID with saying power so you can catch the US passports at the border.

        Drones can be used to dispence pepper Spray. Officials in India have been experimenting with flying drones rigged with cameras and pepper spray canisters, weapons that can be used remotely to disperse crowds without undue risk to the operator. This could be used on the men using women and children as shields.

        BTW those women and children used as cannon fodder by the Left are probably SLAVES!!!

        From another Treeper:
        “Honduras”. Trafficking in Persons Report 2008. U.S. Department of State (June 4, 2008).
        “Honduras is principally a source and transit country for women, girls, and boys trafficked for sexual exploitation…
        Honduran women and children are trafficked to Guatemala, El Salvador, Mexico, and the United States for sexual exploitation. Most foreign victims of commercial sexual exploitation in Honduras are from neighboring countries; some are economic migrants en route to the United States who are victimized by traffickers. Internal child labor and forced child labor for violent criminal gangs are serious concerns. …”

        This article incorporates text from this source, which is in the public domain.
        ^ “Trafficking in Persons Report 2017: Tier Placements”. http://www.state.gov. Retrieved 2017-12-01.

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  19. andi lee says:

    Pardon the language but some interesting facts noted in the tweet. Like,

    ‘Pueblo sin Fronteras’ is a U.S.-based immigration group.

    “Mexican government officials” organized, arranged, the buses …

    And, then there he is … George Soros … commie bass turd.

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  20. Artemis Gordon says:

    Good day, all. In the spirit of intellectual honesty – I’m always honest, but sometimes lack intellect.

    Yesterday I proposed a plan to let the group arrive on a military base, feed them, send them packing and have Mex pay for it, etc. I was soundly told that was not a good idea. I did some more research and discovered many issues, not the least of which being once they hit our soil, they are afforded rights due to current laws. I was / am appalled. At the laws, and the fact I was ignorant of them.

    Apologies first. Thanks for the education second.

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  21. Name Redacted says:

    Mexico had been helping stem the flow until now? What were the signs?

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  22. Mk10108 says:

    To be a fly on the wall In Mexico or a Never Trump meeting.

    Yes Yes that’s it, we got Trump now…march 1500 up from Honduras and stand them at the border. We’ll rip the mask off the Hateful Trump. We say one was married to a Veteran, that soothes the racist with rifles.

    As he said, they’re not sending their best, It’s gonna be good

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  23. Concerned Virginian says:

    You know, the more I watch the videos of the “asylum seekers” coming up to our borders, the more I am reminded of the videos of the “asylum seekers” marching into Central Europe, Germany, and France. This current group looks like 80%-90% SINGLE MEN OF MILITARY AGE, with some women and children prominently used for “optics props”.
    In effect, the United States will be invaded by an “army” of drug gangs, unskilled and probably illiterate people, and WHO KNOWS how many “Syrian refugees” (aka Islamic Jihadis) embedded into it.

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  24. Jenny R. says:

    Considering the language this group uses, they are not “poor refugees” — at least certainly not the leaders. Considering the looks of them from the photos, same thing — they all pretty much look fat and sassy…hardly poor waifs.
    And the Democrats and Republicans that are hand wringing over them are completely stupid and out of touch. Moonbeam is getting ready to collapse his state (and possibly try to start a civil war of one) under the weight of his own arrogance and cognitive disassociation.

    Mexico is a joke, a bad joke along with the rest of Central America, and Trump sounds like Bre’r Rabbit…this could become quite fun.
    Yeah, I think we’ll be ok.

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    • G. Combs says:

      This is what REAL Refugees look like

      (Polish children rescued from the Soviet Union)

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      • Jenny R. says:

        Exactly, and I’ve seen enough Central American peasants to know that they are not as well fed or clothed also.
        I’ve seen people in our own country who look more run down — from the photos most of these look like common street criminals and/or agitators, look at them: do those bodies look like they’ve done hard labor? In their flip flops, etc. do they look like they could even walk more than a few miles? If not, then they are not fitting the average description of a refugee — political or economic.
        I would be interested to check their hands and feet for calluses.

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  25. James W Crawford says:

    Nuke Mexico City.

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  26. Apfelcobbler says:

    “We have a friendly, trustful relationship”.

    Really?

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  27. we300 says:

    Has anyone tried to find out if Mexico is paying off our politicians for looking the other way or for their cooperation with this border less, lawless crap?

    I am SO sick of this s@@! and these people who DEMAND we accept them while they steal from us, rape and murder our kids and give us the finger while biting our flag. Eff them.

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  28. As a man thinkth says:

    From 35,000 feet….follow the tax payers money. The money to be made in the “immigrant scam” is keeping them in the US….The legal fees, court costs, welfare and education are ALL paid by the voiceless tax payer…The weaponized legel system has been assembled by lawyers for lawyers…The endless “do loop” of stays and continuous flow of tax payer dollars…Our Constitution has been bastardized to the point that our boarder patrol amounts to “catch and release”…Our President has to beg Congress for common sense legislation required to reset the ORIGIONAL intent of the Constitution…Think about it: If the money was to be made in getting these illegals out of the US, the legal system would look like bounty hunters….There is no money in throwing them out…the money is made keeping them in..

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    • Cuppa Covfefe says:

      Yep. We need to follow an instruction from the proposed “Babbage” computer language:
      DON’T DO WHILE NOT… 🙂

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  29. charliedan says:

    This is an INVASION of American Sovereignty!
    It should be treated in kind!
    U.S. Troops to the border to defend our country!
    Those in CONgress that defer are traitors to their Oath, to the Constitution, and to their Country.
    And should be removed from office at once and indicted for treason!!
    IMHO
    May God bless America and President Donald J TRUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    MAGA!!!!!!!!

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  30. Paco Loco says:

    The refugee resettlement scam is a multi billion dollar business funded by Congress. All of the big US charities are on this gravy train and lobby for open borders. Sickening that Congress is paying for these illegals to move to and settle in the US heartland.

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  31. Mickturn says:

    This isn’t about the caravan, that is the Fake Front. The real issue is about how this will be used by the Democraps to Demonize the Republicans and Trump in 2018 to energize the Lib Base…along with other crooked initiatives by the Libs.

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  32. Foolsgold says:

    When dealing with Mexico always remember your dealing with Mexican cartel mafia who pull all of the strings along with the Clinton cartel. Look up Mena Arkansas airport connections when old Bill was gov.

    http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/MENA/crimes_of_mena.html

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  33. 11r20 ND says:

    I has Mr Ted Cruz and Doctor Burgess’s interns write this message for them
    ~Close all 50 Mexican Consulates…Why do we need 50 Mexican consulates?
    ~Declare Mexico a Narco Terrorist State…((Two rolling gun battles happened on the south side of the TX Border this past weekend)).Send in the Marines.
    ~Stop all money wire transfers
    ~Seize all Narco Traffickers assets
    ~Put out an emergency tourist alert
    ~Withdraw all US Gov personnel

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  34. Neural says:

    Americans in general have a weakness for children. The globalists know this. If we put the military on the border, we’ll see no end to front page photos showing men with guns and poor “refugee” children.
    If we send our military to the border, we need them to immediately put up impassable barriers of razor-wire at the best. These “refugees” (some of whom are absolutely either terrorists or child rapists) must not enter our country even by an inch.

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  35. Neural says:

    And another thing. Any liberal piece of **** traitor to the United States that tries to help these “refugees” cross into the US should have their citizenship revoked and their personal finances used to pay for a one way ticket to the home country of the individual they were helping. We are long over due for justice to rain down like nuclear warheads on these treasonous anti-Americans. They know full well that they their actions are an attempt to overthrow the constitution of this country. They know full well that helping illegals into the country means more votes for *their* party.
    This is not stupidity. It’s not “brainwashing”. They are simply evil.

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  36. sansa2016 says:

    Trump has a special relationship with the Marines.

    He can put them all on the border on a whim if he so desires.

    Posse comitatus does NOT apply to the Marines.

    Tanks, howitzers, heavy machine guns, helicopters, Warthogs…the media would go nuts and

    nobody would approach the border.

    Have the Warthogs patrol the border at very low altitude at near max cruise speed….have them fly on the Mexican side of the border!

    The Warthog at 300ft and 350mph would be a frightful thing. The two huge turbofans would make a sound that would rattle your bones at such low altitude

    .
    The Warthog ain’t pretty or fast, it is a scary thing that is sort of like a light tank that flies

    .
    Shut down all trade with Mexico for 30 days if they do not act.

    Forbid all remittances to Mexico for a year

    Place the country under martial law if need be and use the entire armed forces at that point.

    And get the Corp of Engineers working on the wall…light a fire under their ass.

    Have federal marshals arrest all public officials in sanctuary cites

    Trump has the power to do all of these things.

    Mess with a genius-level, street-smart, Queens boy and buddy, you got problems.

    I don’t know about you but I’m pissed, it’s time to stop phukin around with this.

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    • Longknife 21 says:

      I’m bloody-minded enough to enjoy your suggestion, BUT:
      Warthogs cause way too much collateral damage to use on our side of the Border. Helicopters with Miniguns much better, cheaper and less damage, IF it ever came to that, (and it wouldn’t) Even just use “slicks” (transports) with minigun doorguns. (Minigun- 6 barrel Gatling-type, electric motor driven, 7.62 Nato, usually about 2000 rounds per minute “on the first detent”, 4000 rds/min on high-speed if flex mounted. Air Force can fire them at 6000 rds/min fixed on the AC-130s. The speed limit is getting belted ammo to the feeder-delinker section without the “belts” breaking.)
      Save the Warthogs and Apaches for if the Mexican Army gets “froggy”.

      Back to a Reality Check, even if a whole gang of them tried to rush the troops or police on the border; all it would take is just shoot a few of the Coyotes (guides) or ‘bad-looking hombres, and all you will see of the rest is asses and elbows running south as fast as they can. No problemo.
      Don’t waste the “good stuff”.

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      • Longknife 21 says:

        Solves all that Catch & Release crap, processing, and housing them, chasing ’em down to deport them when they don’t show up for their court date, and the cost & hassle of deporting them back to where the came from.
        They got there, they can get back. The Mexicans don’t want ’em, let them help.

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  37. Patriot 1 says:

    “Mexican Economic Minister Ildefonso Guajardo threatened to flood the U.S. with South American illegal aliens, criminals and gang members as leverage:”

    We want to have free trade with people that would threaten this? Trump is threatening trade these people are threatening illegal activity. By their fruit you will know them.

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  38. auscitizenmom says:

    This shows very well what the Mexican government is and is capable of in dealing with their own people, if they would openly threaten the President of the United States. 🙄

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